A baby is drowning in the lake Fallout 3: >Yes >No >Depends

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>>377756854
>look I posted it again!

>>377756854
because todd is a fraud.

>>377756854
Because people that like playing the no violence option are the minority. Most people like to shoot their way through a horde of muties to save the baby.

>>377756854
i don't remember fo3 being like that

because voice acted main character

sick post dude where did you find this one?

>>377756854
>>[Speech 60] Can't you do it yourself?

>"W-Well...Maybe you're right."
>Follow NPC to lake
>He jumps in
>Gets immediately torn apart by mutated fish
>You kill it
>Hop in the water to go after floating baby
>its a doll

someone hire me

>>377758072
don't be ridiculous. that couldn't be the reason.

>>377756854
Yeah fallout sure does suck

>>377756854
>HATE BABY

>>377758142
Yes it is. Otherwise they could have 100s of more lines.

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>>377758028

Fallout NV:
>everything looks and plays like shit

Fallout 4:
>everything looks and plays just fine

Wow.

>>377758142
Actually that was the main reason.
More work, longer it takes the game to come out.
Have a voiced characters, stream line the game with ease.

>>377758142
yes it is, you're an idiot

>>377758396
Really made me think.
>the 4 has a massive gameplay improvement over 3 meme

>>377758396
>and plays just fine
Except, you know, the entire portion of the game devoted to anything rpg related.

But nah, that's fine. If all you wanted was a marginably improved but still mediocre shooter be my guest. There's no accounting for taste. Or intelligence

>Survival 15/25
What would this be if you met the req tho?
What would be the Speech/Barter if you didn't meet them?

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What was your honest opinion on the protagonist voices in 4?

>>377758925

I mean hes not terrible. Sometimes he was reading the lines seemingly entirely out of context, in terms of his emotion, but this is probably an issue with whoever was directing him and not he himself.

Id prefer no voice, though.

why thre is not pictures of todd yet?!?

>>377758925
Pretty meh. Turning the voices off mod is great.
Hearing a generic white-boi voice if you make a Nigger or anything else you can imagine is also a major immersion-break they didn't account for.

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>>377758605
Yeah, it certainly needs an elevated mind to appreciate the masterpiece that is Fallout: New Vegas.

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>>377759089
i was holding them back personally

>>377758925
I thought they were both good. Frankly, I'd like to see this become standard in RPGs where you make your own character.

Fable:
>yes i will save your baby and become the town hero
>no fuck you instead ill go push the baby down with my boot and then eat the corpse

>>377758337
>[Intelligence]
>"so basically you stay in your room talking to yourself into a mic instead of actually helping people?"
SASUGA BETHESDA I LOVE YOU

>>377758925
As some anons already said, it's holding back dialogue as a whole because fewer lines are possible.
Still, I was pleasantly surprised by the overall quality actually. Although mostly because I expected nothing, coming from Bethesda.

>>377758142
Voice acting is fucking expensive, that's why so many npcs have recycled actors.

>>377758337
What's intelligent about that statement?

>>377758892
>[Barter 40/45] I'm not very good at swimming, couldn't you pay me more?
>[Speech 20/60] Call the fire department!
>[Survival 25] Give the baby CPR.

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>>377756854
All those choices were confusing and pointless fluff. We streamlined the fun so you can get right to the action! Say.. when did you get a lock?

>>377759516
That's the point, Bethesda is fucking stupid.

>>377758925
The voice acting was fine, just wholly unneeded and sets a bad precedent for these types of games.

>>377759617
>pointless fluff
They actually are.

>>377756854
You're forgetting the walk away option for Fallout 4, where the baby will just continue drowning forever until you decide to come back and save it.

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I miss FO4 hate threads

>>377759779
They've evolved into Toddposting threads.

X) I will save your baby
O) I won't save your baby
△) HATE WATER
□) I'll be back later

>>377756854
This is lie. Fallout 4 has four options. No more No less.

>>377760338
Yes
Different Yes
Sarcastic Yes
No (Yes later)

>>377758316
>>377758459
>>377758465
>>377759483

The fact that all of you responded to this >>377758142 not realizing it was obvious sarcasm is fucking dumb.

>>377760427
Now that's more like it.

>>377760338
Add another "Yes" then.

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Good evening, we have received a disturbance report of people slandering Fallout® 4. May I ask what is going on in this thread?

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>>377759779

>>377758142
In games without voice acting you can have huge fucking blocks of text as dialogue. Haven't you ever played Morrowind? The conversations can also be more complex if the writers bother to try.

>>377759516
Your character understood the hidden meaning to three dogs actions.

Still a shitty check.

>>377760558
Thank God you're here, Officer Howard. There are DISSENTERS with POOR TASTE in this thread, criticizing Fallout 3 and 4's dialogue!

>>377760478
So it's official now, /v/ hates the FO4 dialogue because they don't understand the sarcasm options.

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>>377756854
Why post incomplete memes?

>>377760807
No one cares about Fallout 1 or 2 anymore.

>>377760338
urrrpp!!! fuck off yoda no one likes your urrrp!! stupid movie

>>377760478
some people are really that fucking stupid anon, can you blame them for not picking up on it?

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>>377756854

>Play unarmed low Int character
>Swim out to lake and punch baby to death
>Punch mother to death
>Beat corpses to pieces
>Arrange them in funny ways
>move on


BRB
Reinstalling New Vegas

>>377761145
I often just forget that a majority of /v/ users are stupider than the average person on most of the other boards.

>>377758925
Stupid. Fallout's better without a voiced protagonist.

>>377760427
Yes
More Information
Sarcastic Yes (sometimes this is exchanged for a "speech check" that's nothing but a chance to get slightly more caps)
No (Yes later)

Is literally every conversation in FO4 and THAT actually pisses me off more than all this hyperbole

>>377758925
Male protag's voice is awful and I hate it. Female is okay. But they shouldn't have had voices anyway.

>>377760754
That and they want every dialogue to be 2deep4you fedora tier. You know, because its super important to have a philosophical discussion with a person needed their cat saved from a tree.

>>377758925
The voice actors and their performances were for the most part fine, but their inclusion contributed to FO4 being less (or not at all, even) of an RPG, and more of an Action-Adventure title.

Which would have been fine, in theory, if the action or the adventure had been good. Preferably both.

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>Make a female character built for sex who wanders the wasteland fucking anything and everything
>ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING Dogmeat, primarily)
>Make Nate black because of course
>mfw that voice

>>377761548
cool little strawman, bet it felt good to knock it down

the dialogue in F4 is just awful, from the lines to the voice delivery. but it's okay because you can make Piper your waifu and give her your wife's old wedding ring right? :^)

>>377756854
Can someone come up with a new pasta

>>377761745
>but it's okay because you can make Piper your waifu and give her your wife's old wedding ring right?
Yes

>>377761867
Then go play some faggy dating sim. The writing will be just as good, if not better.

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>>377761808
Take your pick.

>>377760570
is this true or he is just exaggerating?

Reminder that another settlement needs your help is the best faction

>>377762208
a lot of it is true

the last bit is kinda false, they give a flimsy justification for muh pure DNA

>>377756854
Shitty dialogue system is why I didn't give those niggers my money, nor sully my precious toaster with that game.

Also, voiced protag? Fucking why?

>>377762208
It is mostly true, yeah

>>377761957
Most games have better writing then Obsidian games. I know that's hard to fathom for you.

>>377762513
At yet Bethesda manages to be worse. Good fucking job.

>>377762218
This
Institute are turbo-autists with no actual endgoal and just want to wantonly murder people because "science lol"
Brotherhood are literal fascists who want to kill anything different on the off chance that it might one day possibly consider maybe thinking about harming a human
Railroad are incompetent and lack resources

>>377762513
Did I say anything about Obsidian?

In any case their worst writing is better than the best in Fallout 4.

>>377760754
/v/ is great at understanding sarcasm

>>377762513
>"So now we need to activate the system, but it will poison the one who goes in to the room. They'd probably die."
>"Okay, my metahuman friend, go click that."
>"No."
>"Why not?"
>"It is your destiny."
>"I don't want to fucking die man."
>"Destiny."
>"Fuck you."
>"DLC."
Top tier Bethesda writing.

>>377762643
The Institute's stated goal is a better future by fucking the past, as well as anyone they feel like
Basically reverse Old World Blues with lasers. I could get behind them if it weren't for the fuck history and lelgorillas thing.

Also they have synth birds and fish.

>>377762568
>>377762667
Subjective. I don't think either game has that great of writing but needing more then yes, no, and more money option is just fluff.

>>377763087
top kek

gotta love it when someone doesn't know when they're beat

>>377763250
>i'm right you're wrong, naner naner naner
I was just having a discussion. Didn't realize you were a child though.

>>377756854
>Fallout NV:
>>Yes, I will save your baby
Yes
>>No, I will not save your baby
No
>>[Barter 45] Double the caps and I'll save it
Yes
>>[Speech 60] Can't you do it yourself?
Yes (Sarcastic)
>>[Lady Killer] We can make another one, baby
Yes (Sarcastic)
>>[Survival 15/25] Yeah, I totally know how to swim
No

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>>377758309
always gets me

>>377763475
what is there to discuss? the dialogue in F4 is a travesty to all but the weakest of minds

>>377756854
>pretending any of those three have fulfilling storylines
I want this meme to stop.

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>>377758142

>[intelligence 0] "i with Seizure's Luncheon."

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>>377763879
Sorry, didn't realize you were a gentleman of such refined intelligence.

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>>377761680

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>>377758396
>>everything looks and plays just fine

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>>377758925
He's like a dorkier commander shepherd, his line delivery was unintentionally chuckle worthy but I could never take the fucking guy serious. Doesn't matter since I don't take Fallout 4 serious in the first place.

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>>377759617
>>377760558
Don't worry about it, Todd, the game is actually alright! :^)

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>>377764957
The guns in Fallout 4 are so fucking awful, Fallout should have realistic guns like it always had

>>377756854
You forgot option 4 on Fallout 4
>What's a baby?

>>377765559
>not "SHAUN"

>>377765680
Fallout ain't a Quantum dream game. Yet.

>>377765448
>the 10mm pistol will never go back to being a revolver
>the combat shotgun will never return, and it's replacements make no mechanical sense in how they function
>the crowbar will never return, and if it does, it will be solely a weapon, can't be used to open locked containers
>the Desert Eagle will never return, only get .44 revolvers
>assault rifle was fine in F3 and NV but went full retard in 4

though some weapons improved like the powerfist. it went from being this medieval gauntlet to something that looks like it belongs on power armor.

>>377765829
>belongs on power armor.

If only you could actually use it with power armor.

>>377766176
but you can
in 3 and NV you can use any weapon with any armor
dunno about 4

>>377766248
>dunno about 4
That's what I'm talking about; you can't use power fists with power armor.

>>377766276
In fallout 4. Fuck you enter key.

>>377766276
oh yea isn't powerarmor like a vehicle in that game?
how do you play an unarmed character in 4? or is it like skyrim where they scrapped that whole play style because they couldn't figure out how to make it work right?

the more and more I hear about 4 the more I don't want it. it really seems to have no good qualities at all

>>377765829
I think the Power Fist and Ripper were meant to be 40K references

>>377758137
it's sad, but that's better writing than 95% of quests in bethesda games. at least that would be interesting.

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>>377765829
>>the combat shotgun will never return, and it's replacements make no mechanical sense in how they function

Jesus christ, anyone have a link or cap of that thread where a bunch on /k/ommandos try their hardest to figure out how this fucking thing actually works?

>>377766542
what were they even thinking?
>hey check out this cool drum mag shotgun, it's got nice wood finish on it and looks pretty mean don'tchathink Todd?
>hmmm... what if the magazine was at the front? that would make it more iconic looking
>...ahh I mean I guess would could do that but how would the gun work than with the magazine where the bullets are way away from where the gun takes the bullets out of the mag and puts them in the barrel?
>who cares? it'll look neat, just do it you stupid asshole
>okay Todd...

>>377766542
I am no /k/ommando but is there any real world shotgun that they took this from? I could only think of a pump shotgun but how are you supposed to pump that thing when the drum mag (which is also somewhat misplaced, exactly how would the bullets work) is in the way?

>>377767020
there's no gun in existence like that
I highly doubt you could make a gun like that work. You would have to have some kind of internal system that pulls the shells down several inches from the drum to the chamber of the barrel.
either that or you have to preload in 3 or so shells backwards than you would normally load a tube mag shotgun and then put in the drum. the other shells in the drum pushing the shells so that when it fires, more shells come out of the drum backwards and go towards the chamber. the gun would have a typical system to grab the shells below, eject the spent shells, and load in the new shell.

that kind of system is so fucking ass backwards it raises the question: why didn't you just make it like every other shotgun that has ever existed instead of this OC donut steel shit

>>377767020
I believe it's based on the ppsh, but instead of a submachine gun with the drum near the receiver, they made it a shotgun with the drum at the fore end of the barrel

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>>377766542
>>377767257
Uhh....?

>>377765829
I'm still fucking pissed about those hideous pipe guns.

>>377767546
that is nothing like the combat shotgun from 3, save that it is a shotgun and has a drum mag.
the drum is right before the receiver, not half a foot in front of it
the aa12 would be like the CS if the drum was where the guy holding it's left hand is. imagine that and realize how fucking stupid bethesda is.

>>377766542
Im more offended by the wood grain following the curve of the stock

>>377767546
the ejection port is directly above the magazine, look at the one here
>>377766542
for it to fire off then you would need some odd ass fucking mechanism

>>377767020
If the mag was under the chamber like a real gun then it would make sense. But it's at the front of the gun for some reason and there doesn't seem to be any way to get the shells into the chamber. There's no pump and also nothing to pull back the slide with if it were semi automatic. The gun can't work and isn't based off anything, it makes no sense at all.

the worst thing about the combat shotgun is that if the mag and the hand grip area were simply switch around, it suddenly makes sense and looks pretty good
bethesda went out of their way to make an illogical shit show of a gun design

>>377763657
What are you saying?

>>377767546
The issue with Fallout 3's combat shotgun is that there's no way to get the shells from the drum mag into the chamber. The shells load directly into the chamber in the AA12.

>>377758925

I dislike a voiced Fallout protagonist on principle, but for what it's worth, Courtney Taylor did a good job with what she was given.

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why was it so good ?

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>>377767546

>>377759518
>CPR
>Survival
>not Medicine

At least try.

>>377767938
wow is that concept art for Fallout 5?!?
Todd does it again, he's a fucking genuis!

>>377767879
I agree, but whoever did the male voice was terrible. sounded utterly disinterested in whatever he was saying

>>377763006
>almost all of your companions are radiation proof
>one even gets healed by it

IT IS YOUR DESTINY TO DIE HERE IN THE MACHINE THAT GENERATES SO MUCH RADIATION THAT IT REMOVES RADIATION FROM THE WATER

Fucking Bethesda

>>377768003
>sounded utterly disinterested in whatever he was saying
that's perfect though. that's exactly how I would have responded to everything in F4

>>377762208

It's mostly truth with some hyperbole, but most of the "there is no why" bits actually do have explanations (albeit stupid ones).

>>377768058
well that whooping 1 rad per sec in the entire ocean is so fucking massive that all the rads that are taken out of the water being perified needs to go somewhere
so when they built it they made sure all those rads were pumped into that radiation proof glass room
somehow
for some reason
yea...

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INT=1 *throws poop at drowning baby*

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>>377768058
>superhuman who is immune to radiation says no
>mindless obediant slave girl all of the sudden says no
>ghoul who is healed by radiation and who is also your slave in a sense says no

>>377768235
Well it wasn't that it was designed to shoot the radiation back at the console user in the glass room.
It's just that your "dad" sabotaged it in order to kill the bad guys in the room and save you.

Ironically, it's his sabotage that kills you (depending on your choice).

>>377768003
He's somewhat better in hitman. He's at least trying there

>>377756854
>can't kill the baby

*yawn*

>>377756854
1/2
It's hard to roleplay as anyone other than the ex-soldier dad or his wife because sure you could avoid the main quest but every so often you'll get a quest where you're reminded that you're this dad/mom out for revenge which ruins whatever character you're trying to RP. Eg: Dealing with Benny in New Vegas vs Cornflakes in Fallout 4.
Benny
Holy whoa. You're ring-a-ding-a alive-uh?
>Your pants. Off. Now.
>I'm gonna ing blow your head off. Pants-on style.
>I'll hear you out first. Maybe there's more to this.
>I'll see you later, okay?
>We're doing this my way. Right here, right now, tell me I don't care if your kid's having his bar mitzvah!

Kellog
The Institute is frightening. You have no idea, kid, no idea. Don't even try having an idea, the idea is too scary?
>Why did you take my baby and kill my wife?
>Why *sob* did you take my baby and kill my wife?
>I'll kill you for taking my baby and killing my wife!
>Talk before I kill you for killing my wife and taking my baby.
>fucking hell, Diamond City is WHERE?

>everything in the game looks like it's made of rubber
>made from Skyrim - the workbench even reuses the blacksmithing sound effect
>power armor received at the very beginning of the game
>your character now has a predetermined backstory, leaving nothing to the imagination; every playthrough is either the ex military dad or the lawyer mom
>voice acting
>conversation options are extremely limited
>perks are now merged with skills
>BoS are the good guys again
>Liberty Prime again
It's tailored hard to be an on the rails RPG experience while being a sandbox game. If you leave the carefully crafted adventure then everything looks like and is underwhelming. As long as you follow the plot quests in order it's engaging but if you stray you'll see that's where all the focus was.

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>>377764957

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>>377768632
2/2
>Enemies feel like bullet sponges (especially legendary enemies) and higher difficulties make the improved (but still bad) gunplay feel like you're shooting pellets at enemies by decreasing your dps
>bad fallout game due to lacking past atmosphere and not being able to decide if it wants to be rpg or fps.
>Settlements
Main quest-centric. If you try to build your own you'll quickly realize the content is minimal and the quests are all bullshit random generated "Radiant" quests
>Locations
A half dozen major areas but very little variation within those areas. All look the same. Only main quest areas got personalization and unique feels.
>No skill checks.
They made building your character feel so much more rewarding, and without them, it barely feels like an RPG. Plus it let me avoid doing a bunch of generic fetch quests that seem to litter this game or at least made them bearable through immersion and the illusion of choice.
Bethesda wasted too much time and resources on stupid shit like settlement building, player voice acting, the Fallout Shelter app, and the stupid Pipboy app.
There was such an emphasis on settlements it turned into the drive of the game and its dlc. Which instead of 4 good dlc its just 2 decent dlc and some settlement shit. Also, the minutemen are your and yet you cant place them with every faction online like fucking 1. honestly the game pretty much took a side step. If Bethesda makes another fallout make it like 4 but then gut it and try all over again. Settlements need a bit of a withdraw, more focus on the actual game as a whole and add some guns instead of 1000+ fucking pipe pistols/rifles.
Also, the kid in a fridge quest is pants on head retarded and when fans complained about it, Pete Hines was a dick . The game is more of an open world shooter than a Fallout RPG and that's why it's the shittiest Fallout game.

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>>377758396
>Why does this Xbone/PS4 game look better than this PS3/360 game?
really gets the noggin joggin'

>>377768473
I never played the DLC, is that the "Reason" they give it to you so you can be alive for the DLC?

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>>377767938

>>377758137
Oh man, I actually chuckled at this. I'd hire you.

>>377758605
>>377768797
Kek fuck off. New Vegas had way poorer graphics and gunplay

And besides, it didn't even have base building etc

>>377760558
H-hey Todd! I wasn't pirating your games and still talking shit about them! H-hahah!

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>>377769073
>game running on old oblivion engine
>game running on newer skyrim engine.

>>377760558
HEY TODD FALLOUT 4 WAS A PIECE OF GARBAGE SO I BOUGHT FIVE COPIES OF FALLOUT NEW VEGAS

>>377756854
because Fallout 4 is not a true fallout game, let alone an RPG game. Just like Dragon age Cisquisition. Any sidequest or war table quests that you wish to side with lords over refugees or the likes, you just lie to the lord and escort the refugees off the land, claiming you murdered them. It's SJW pandering faggotry.

>almost everyone agrees that Fallout 4 has better gameplay than New Vegas
>gameplay is the only part of a game that matters
>people still insist that New Vegas is a better game

>>377756854
Nv answers we're not not that deep and 4 we're not that shallow or limited. I've never understood this meme. Was it because NV got btfo and fags are mad?

Can anyone help me with New Vegas?

Im stuck inside a random house, everytime i try to leave game loads and then suddenly black screen and nothing.
I have to logout from my session on restart my pc.

>>377756854
unironically kill yourself you complete waste of biomass, either develop some original thoughts or make it so you can never try again

>>377769487
The only gameplay part FO4 improved on was how the guns felt. I don't know why people say it had better gameplay unless the guns is what they meant

>>377758396
This. Playing NV after fo3 was extremely painful. Not to mention the game breaking glitches nv had. The gunplay was shit too. I sure love shooting at something with a sniper rifle and not hitting it forcing me to use vats. Because that's the shooter people wanted. Just let the game play itself.

>>377769487
Quests and dialog are gameplay in an RPG

>>377770005
lmao kill yourself along with your shit tier thoughts

>>377769596
Most people just returned the game. It's honestly your only option.

>>377770108
>game forces you to use a shitty autoplay system that was only implemented for nostalgia fags
>should of been left to rot with fo2
>nv fags defend the shitty gunplay that forces you to use autoplay

I've never understood this.

>>377770509
>>game forces you
lol it dont dough

>>377764753
>Treat injuries

>fallout 5
smiley face (YES)
frowny face (NO until later)

>>377758925
voiced protag ruined the whole game
we could have had a legitimate fallout game but instead all we got was "muh son" garbage and barely and rpg

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>>377770509
>game forces
>auto play

what the fuck are you talking about

>>377769487
No, they say the gunplay is good. The combat is awful because they stripped out nearly everything involving character building. Doesn't help that everything else in Fallout 4 is horrible such as quests (which is gameplay), exploration (which is gameplay), dialogue (which is gameplay) etc.

>>377771040
wow wow there being able to say no, until later, would confuse players
how about just:
>Yes
>Goodbye
that would streamline the experience and keep players focuses on having an epic time!

>>377768058
but anons it's so fuckin EPIC

>>377770509
>forces
Why would you go out of your way to throw away any credibility you had? Even if you're shitposting, nobody is going to take you seriously after posting something like that. It's clearly nonsense.

>>377771494
>Yes
>I will say yes later

>>377771556
hmmm I see what you are getting at
we remove dialog options all together and now everything you meet a new person a little cut scene plays that lets players know what they need to know

>>377758925
I turned it off after 15 hours I think, I hate the male voice

>>377756854
stop pretending that NV has any meaningful dialogue choices.

They are all just yes or no in the end.

>>377772168
doesn't that go for every game ever?

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this place has really gone downhill

>>377756854
>HATE BABY

>>377769487
GUNPLAY. FO4 has decent GUNPLAY, you buffoon. RPG elements are still part of the gameplay and FO4 had none of those. It had decent GUNPLAY but Fallout is supposed to be heavier on the RPG elements, not on the shooting. They fucked up their priorities.

GUNPLAY.

>>377772726
>Game where you turn mutants and mad max bandits to chunky salsa is about dialogue and flavor text
You are stupid

>>377773204
>RPG elements only consist of dialogue and flavor text
>calling others stupid

>>377773204
>a game where you explore, talk with others, and try to rebuild the world is about shooting bullet sponges
you are stupid

>>377772168
Options are meaningful. A roleplaying game should have as many dialog options as possible for every type of character. Fallout has always been great this.

>>377773204
It's not just that. It's about the decisions you make, the people you meet, the places you go. Bandits running at you with crowbars and rusty guns yelling "YA LIKE THE SIGHT OF YOUR OWN BLOOD" is just a slice of the delicious Fallout pie

>>377767901
it wasn't

>>377772168
>Double the options
Sounds good to me

>>377773204

If you want to play a game where all you do is splatter monsters and bad men with big guns you could play any of the hundreds of FPS games that let you do that. People play Fallout for the roleplaying, lore, writing, and story, which is something Fallout 4 is not good at. Is this really that hard to grasp, you complete fucking retard?

>>377773204
>RPG set in a fairly fleshed out world with interesting characters and areas.
>"Hurr durr, shoot shoot, bang bang muties and baddies."
Fucking casuals.

>>377777776

>Nice town you got here, sheriff. Pleasure to meet you.
>Nice hat, Calamity Jane.
I really don't know how or why I defend this game.

>>377759516
realizing that knowledge is power, and it's more useful to teach a man to not die of radiation poisoning than to go out personally handing out rad x to every dumbass who wanders into a crater, or killing super mutants

>>377766276
Thats because your fists ARE powerfists when you're in power armor. Just naturally.

>>377758396
melee combat is far better in new vegas
perks are also much better too, and you can have more than 1 perk editing mod

>>377758925
I don't like voiced protag in general, but Nora had the better voice actor easily

>>377770509

Get a hunting rifle with a scope and you can hit anything in NV. My weapons typically go: service rifle (Decent damage and accuracy, also cheap) > cowboy repeater (Good damage and accuracy) > battle rifle (High damage and fire rate) > hunting rifle with scope (Accuracy and power) > brush gun (Very high damage and good accuracy). I'd also have a good revolver for a side arm and a ballistic fist for close combat. I've heard the riot shotgun and antimaterial rifle were decent but they never appealed to me.

>>377758925
They should have just stayed silent and let the player play the role.
It's easy to be disconnected with the character considering he or she seems to forget their main motive the instant there's anything else to focus on.

>>377758137
Underrated
>>377758142
That was the reason, too many added lines into the game.

>>377759376
Makes me want to play fable. Maybe I should download them. Evens yes odds not for now

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>>377769073
I don't want graphics, I don't want gunplay, I don't want base building. I want fucking Fallout.

>>377756854
Fallout 3:
>A finished game

Fallout NV:
>unfinished mess just like every other obsidian game

Fallout 4:
>terrible

>>377775572

It's best when the main quest is important but not too important. In Fallout 3, the need to find your father, and later, destroy the Enclave, was urgent, meaning it didn't make sense for you to put the quest on hold. It was something you should do as soon as possible. In New Vegas, you knew where Benny was, and that he had the chip. You knew the battle for the dam was going to take a while to happen, because both sides needed to concentrate their forces first, so you could ignore the main quest for as long as you wanted. Hell, you could have RPed as being scared of Benny, and ignoring him until your travels toughened you up enough to face him. In Skyrim, being summoned by the Greybeards, helping Delphine, and destroying Alduin was, again, something you were expected to do as soon as possible. This is why I always use the Alternate Start mod. You can just ignore the main quest because you think it has nothing to do with you.

>>377776041
How'd you enjoy your 100 endings?

>>377776067
Is there an alt start mod for Fallout 4? While we're at it, is there a mod that removes the mc's voice?

>>377776324
Yes for both.

>>377776394
thanks, I'm interested in playing again.

>>377776678
>That last one
more like [Unarmed 200/75]

>>377775889

I would assume that it would be the one on the top of that list, 1hpaimis.

>>377776041
Its Bethesda. None of them were finish. NV was just less finished.

>>377756854
Because xbox grade RPG. Fire that crap into the sun. If you want to wonder a wasteland mod Stalker.

>>377760338
Fallout 4 has 3 options sometimes. Never has more than 4 though

Most normies actually don't give a shit about RPing. Has this not become clear enough with every Bethesda release since FO3?

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>>377778407
reminded me of this

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>>377778407
>>377778580

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>>377778407
>>377778580
>Bethesda fans are actually children
Deepest lore.

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>>377758925
So FO4 was my first fallout game, NV was my second.


The main reason I liked NV more in terms of voice vs no voice was that I could run the dialogue through my head in my own voice, thus making me feel more like my character, and the inner monologue that I'd have in those particular situations. It's like Freemans Mind - I don't know what Freeman is thinking, but I can voice him with my own thoughts to give him more character, and everyone else is free to do the same.

As soon as you give the MC in a game like this a voice, you take that away from the player. One of the dev comments on Halo 3, when it came to killing 343 Guilty Spark, was the question to give the player the ability to kill Spark, or just make it a cutscene. Either way you go, you take that other option away from the player, and the result can be for the better or worse, or neither.

That said, I liked the voices of the MCs, but I wish I could change the voice, or modulate it, or just have multiple actors for a single character, like how Saints Row 3 gave you the option to choose your character voice and dialogue, and partly their personal character. I really didn't mind either voice, but some other anon said that there were particular scenes where the voice emotion/intent wasn't commensurate with the scene, so yeah, that basically.

>>377778316
This entire time I've been playing these games like any other other game.

I wouldn't even know where to begin with RP. Do I have to sit down and mediate for 5 minutes so that I have a mindset of a guy who got shot in the head and suffers from amnesia before playing New Vegas or what?

>>377767845
I think he's implying that if you simplify new vegas choices to their base elements they are as simple as F4's, not realizing the point is F4 doesn't need to be simplified to get there

>>377766542
I liked the diagram that implied a tiny jedi lived in the stock

>>377781409
epic

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>>377781409
not so fast

>>377756854

guess which piece of shit sold the most

I'll wait

>>377782783
>Quality of the games are based on sales.
WWWWOOOOoooooOOOOWWWWW

>>377782483
>Why does vault 87 have a door
It's been forever since I played it but wasn't that the vaults gimmick or was it actually making more super mutants because bethesda?

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>>377782894

the company (that being the jew nose) goes where the money is

Listen boyo, where there are more retards than actual minds, the simplier, shittier game sells more units.

See Persona sells 10x more than SMT because it is dumbed down weeb shit.

Can you blame Atlus? Can you blame Bethesda?

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>>377782783
Guess which game is currently the most played?

>>377758137
stuff like this is very fallout-y though lmao

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>>377782783

You're talking about a consumer base that will buy literal shit if there's enough hype behind it. Does not prove a fucking thing.

>>377763657
Except that if you get the skills checks right you also get rewarded with EXP along with the fact that some of them have consequences. So they're not the same thing, retard.

>>377758137
Funny how the most capable people aren't the ones making the games, so we are stuck with bland ass bullshit like in 4.

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>>377766542
See, there's a little rod in there, and it pushes the shell back into the chambler.

>>377756854
>That new vegas part

You scumbag LIAR.

>>377756854
>Fallout 3
-Good
-Evil
-Neutral
-[checks]

>Fallout NV
-Good
-Evil
>[Checks]

Looks like Todd wins again.

>>377783956
>Fallout NV
-MUH BEAR
-MUH BULL
-MUH HOUSE
-MUH NEUTRAL

>>377783823
but what pushes the rod? there's no sane way to get blowback to work all the way from the back all the way to the front

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>>377759627
>>377759516

What's intelligent about this statement?
Do you really need above average intelligence to subtract three from four?

>>377782969

Of course the more accessible game that has the broader appeal is going to sell more.

So if you're not insinuating that somehow sales numbers equates to quality, then what was the point of that post?

>>377784062
looks like a mislabeled perception check actually

>>377758137
I'll hire you if I had a job

>>377784062

You do need to be perceptive to realize that the man fired 3 shots in quick succession as opposed to 4. While perception is related to relative intelligence IRL in the game that should have been a PER check as opposed to an INT one.

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>>377756854
>>[Perception] The water is deep

>>377782783
new vegas sold more copies than fallout 3. fallout 4 beat them both

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>>377778407
Wait, what did the difficulty knob do in Fallout 1&2? More HP for enemies? More random hostile encounters?

I don't think I ever fiddled with it.

>>377785174
Affected what type of enemies you encountered in random encounters, how many encounters you get and the damage/health ratio of them BUT it also affected the chances of certain items dropping.

>>377785174
does barely anything, easy increases all your non-combat skills by 20% while hard decreases them by 10%

>>377769596
There must be a console command to warp you out

>>377785897
qqq Nipton should do the trick.

>Hate Babies.

>>377784062
I believe the reasoning was because he was trying to fool you, someone dumb would've not noticed it?
Admittedly that should've/could've been either.

gotta love the NV cucks triggered by how Fo4 is better

>muh dialogue

is all they got. Guess what we're doing 95% of the time honey ? That's right, we fight shit. And who is the best at that ? That's right sweetie, fallout 4 is the best by far at that

>>377786131
>Open world RPG
>Fails at being an RPG
Hush Todd, don't you have a game to develop?

>>377773204
this is the modern bethesda audience

>>377786291
>fallout 4 is better at almost everything except fitting your shitty label

thats all you got ? why dont you go play your shitty cuck game that requires 50mods to be barely acceptable instead of whining over details that fallout 4 did not as good

>>377756854
>Fallout 4 best gameplay
>Fallout NV best story
>Fallout 3 best world

I don't know. I like all fallouts more or less, but it seems something is always missing when new one comes out. I think only fallout 1 and 2 are actually good ones. Tactics, BoS 1 and 2 were fun spin-off games but never good ones.

>>377786456
>Shitty label
>When it is the label the original was developed under

What did anon mean by this?

It has better combat and graphics but worse

>Story
>Characters
>Designs
>Quest structure
>Dialogue
>Lore

>>377786131
>And who is the best at that ?
New Vegas because it has far more combat options. Now shoo shoo Bethesjew

>>377786553
>Fallout 3 best world

What do they eat?

>>377786553
I like playing FO1 and 2, but can never play them for too long before I get bored.

>>377783361
Your point is probably valid but its not quite a fair comparison. FO3 came out for GWFL way before it came out on Steam, and it was never properly converted over like Dead Rising 2 was. New Vegas never had that- ...pleasure.

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>>377786131
>>377786456
Trying too hard although people will still fall for it, worth a you or two

>>377758142
The game even has the stupid 4 way dialogue hardcoded into the engine and is a bitch to work with.

>>377786735
Total units sold for Fallout 3 was 4.7, or roughly half of the amount units sold on steam. Even when you double the stats for Steam Fallout 3, more people are still playing New Vegas.

>>377786662
from the three, yes.
>>377786710
I think it's the pacing. You can progress too fast and at some point you get tired because you roll over everything.

>>377760338
>fallout 4 has four options
Think they'll give us five options for the next one?

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>>377756854
>>[Lady Killer] We can make another one, baby

>>377760478
>i was only pretending to be retarded

>>377772168
yeah the cannibal option is exactly the same as the others

have you literally never role-played before?

>>377758072
>>377758316
>>377758459
>>377759483
>>377760664
>>377775737
You guys do realize that even though the NV protag wasn't voiced, that the NPCs he/she talked to was voiced, right?

It would barely have any effect on the overall amount of voice lines that needed to be done.

>>377786131
Autism

>>377787283
>yes
>no (yes)
>sarcastic yes
>devour their flesh (yes)

>>377758396
this

>>377787372
>no (yes)
confirmed for never playing NV. you can reject any quest you want.

>>377759413
>>377758337
FO3 is amazing if you play as a smug cunt.

>>377784062
I remember this quest in particular.
>guy wants to take a detour to avoid shady characters
>runs quickly ahead of you and shoots people off screen
It's something you can definitely miss if you're not someone who pays attention.

>>377783782
You gotta get through normieviews to work in the games industry and have a bunch if pointless games education and experience

>>377787217
I mean you are, yeah.

>>377787418
you wanna turn the autism off long enough to see the joke?

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>>377778580
>because final fantasy started at 7

everytime

>>377776678
I feel all those would be speech check passes in 3

>>377758142
Yeah, paying that overpriced guy for every minute of his voice is totally not the reason why the rest of the game suffered.

>>377772168
>They are all just yes or no in the end.
You can just go and just fucking kill yourself then.
You'll die eventually anyway.

baby isn't drowning because i'm playing german fallout copy

>>377769000
And I'd check you.

>>377758072
Bethesda had the money to get all the lines voice acted even with New Vegas level choices. They chose not to because they don't care and they have no talent.

>>377786735
Fallout 3 was out on Steam on launch day

>>377787295
>It would barely have any effect on the overall amount of voice lines that needed to be done.
I'd have to disagree. You're almost doubling the number of lines required.

>>377786735
Was 3 converted? I played it just the other day and it still required GFWL.
Had to mod it out because Microsoft won't let me get back into my account.

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Fallout 5 will be announced this E3 and it will be ye olde top down isometric turn based thing.

new vegas? More like Fallout 3 modded : empty desert and gay ass story with shit characters edition

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>>377787848
Thanks for reminding me that the Netherlands are a better place to live.

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>>377788256
>not wanting to be stranded and left to survive in the irradiated mojave

>>377788230
You're thinking of Wasteland 2... or perhaps Wasteland 3?

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>>377756854
buy my game
>Yes
>No (Yes)
> Sarcastic (Yes)

>>377788361
>wanting to run around a fucking empty boring desert

>>377788458
>walks away from conversation
>snipes from a distance

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>>377788230
I hope so, all that would mean is spell the end for Bethdesa.

>bethdesa does a whole "back to muh roots" shit with FO5
>isometric top down turn based rpg
>normies hate it because it's not an fps
>OG fallout fans hate it because there's not a goddamn chance in the world the writing will hold up in the end
>NV fans hate it because it's not NV
>Jsawyer laughs about it on twitter
>everyone boos todd off the stage at e3
>bethdesa put so much money into to it they go bankrupts
>goes down as the "New Coke" of gaming
>extreme amounts of shitposting on /v/.

this timeline is literally impossible but I can dream.

>>377788230
but it's elder scrolls' turn, which at this point is gonna be so casul it'll just turn into a corridor shooter

>>377758396
>The newer game has accetable gameplay
Hell Fallout 4's game play isnt even good, the best part is the jetpack wich it ruined by the fact that you cant even go that high up.
Fallout New Vegas was made to be a RPG where you can actually roleplay what ever you want and it succeeded at doing that.
Fallout New Vegas also gives you a lot of options to do stuff, there are like 8 different ways to get into the strip. You dont even get 4 options in fallout 4.

>>377788552
It'd be just what they deserve after what they did to Prey 2.

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>>377778580
>I thought they just called it 3, didnt know there were other ones

>>377788507
>implying fo3 isnt just empty desert with shit filter and less trees

>>377788775
Gave it to competent devteam?

>>377787217
If you couldn't tell that was sarcasm, then pal YOU are the retard

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>>377756854
>Woman's baby is drowning in a lake
>Offer to have sex with her instead of saving it

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>>377789005
>not sticking your dick in everything that moves
step up your game, i make an effort to fuck everything.

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>>377778580

>because final fantasy started at 7

>>377788979
tried fucking Human Head Studios on their milestones in order to try and buy their studio for nothing.

>>377763657
What a faggit
>>[Barter 45] Double the caps and I'll save it
Yes, double reward for anyone willing to invest the points into barter
>>[Speech 60] Can't you do it yourself?
Make the NPC do it, giving you the EXP while saving you the trouble
>>[Lady Killer] We can make another one, baby
Complete the quest, in an odd/funny way for those who wanted something funny. Gives you EXP
>>[Survival 15/25] Yeah, I totally know how to swim
Either fail the quest or be forced to pick an other option.

>>377756854
Because it's not forbidden. Shitposting is, though.

>>377767901
Far harbour was actually fun. Nuka world was a waste of money.

>>377764753
What mod is that

>>377788334
>rutte won for the third time
don't get too cocky fellow toothpaste

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>>377766542
>dude like what if we like took the PPSh and made it a shotgun instead?
They were really pushing the bar with that one huh?

>>377765829
>>the 10mm pistol will never go back to being a revolver
the 10mm colt was actually a hybrid that nobody is sure how it actually worked since it had both a drum and a standard magazine.

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>>377790941
Yeah, it's based on this:

>>377782939
87 was the FEV vault yeah.

>>377758925
I modded it out of the game before I finished the tutorial.

>>377770965
It's for hardcore players, where there's no health regeneration. Doctor's Bags double as stimpacks that can heal broken bones, and you can offer them to people given that they like you enough.
>>377790440
Various personal ones I've made.

>>377756854
Wonder what Skyrim's would look like.

>>377793495
Yes i will help find the golden claw
sorry maybe later
[HATEDRAGONS]

>>377757239
WTF?!?! that´s not todd...

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>>377778580
>in order to have a good story, (which is first foremost) you need good graphics

>>377769596
Do coc NovacGiftShop and see if the loading screen you get has the same error.

>>377794120
Some brainlet was trying to sound smart but ended up frying a few brain cells in the process.

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>>377778580
I miss old youtube

>>377788576
Next Elder Scrolls game isn't coming out until 2019 at least I would say based on Bethesda's statements they aren't even really working on it right now.

Bethesda is currently working on 2 completely new IPs that are both being released before that because their sudden surge in popularity means they've begun expanding as a game development company and don't want to be stuck as "Those guys who make Elder Scrolls and Fallout". So they're diversifying their intellectual properties, one of these unknown IPs is going to be announced at E3 this year and the other will probably be announced next year or in 2019 with TES6 not coming around until 2019-2021 and the next Fallout coming some time in the early 2020s.

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>>377794951
>the next Fallout coming some time in the early 2020s

>>377761284
Enjoy probably the hardest way to start the game, and the easiest way to play through it once you hit late game. holy shit i did not realize melee was this broken.

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>>377790701
>>377766542

>>377795523
Just let it die man. Look at Fallout 4.
You know it to be true.

Would you fuck a deathclaw y/n?

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>>377758137
That's like Patches level of trickery. I love it.

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>>377795892
canon no, the ones on paheal yes
now if I were a cute girl I'd GET fucked by a deathclaw but not the other way around

>>377768916
With the DLC, your choice makes no fucking difference.

You go in = Knocked out for 2 weeks, Sarah in coma until end of DLC

Sarah goes in = Knocked out for 2 weeks Sarah dies

Send Companion in = Knocked out for 2 weeks, Sarah in coma until end of DLC

>>377773204
t. pete hines

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>>377773204
>people fell for this