The current gen has no memorable games. It's the most shit

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>>377743813
>>377743813
>The current gen has no memorable games.

>The current gen has no memorable games

Ps4 has persona 5, Nintendo has TLOZ:BoW, and of course how can we forget the masterpiece made by microsoft... err...
I think I can't remember any good game for xbone, sorry.

>>377744065
>Ps4 has persona 5
So does the PS3

>>377743998
Fucking fifa

>>377743813
>and thank fuck for Witcher
Oh yes, I LOVE that RPGs just get simpler and simpler and resemble brain-dead action/adventure games more closely than actual RPGs, so great!

>>377743813
Gravity rush 2
Splatoon
Killer Instinct
Zelda Wiiu
Horizon 3

Kys OP

>>377743813
>The current gen has no memorable games
You haven't played most of them so how would you know?

>>377744113
>So does the PS3

And?

>>377743813
Well there always Bloodborne and BotW as well as... wait yeah thats all I got.

>>377744647
Not really a selling point when your last console also has the game is it?

>>377744845
Like how the WiiU also has Zelda?

>>377745054
Wii U is in the gen in question though. Switch is "next gen"

>>377744845
>Not really a selling point when your last console also has the game

I don't think that was his point, but yes multiplats are also selling points. I don't understand how game can be playable on PS3 but don't count on PS4.

>>377745462
Good point, I'm retarded.

>>377745671
>All past consoles had their own notable games
>Lots of notable games for this set of consoles are also on older consoles

You're missing the point. It's not about games "counting" or not, it's about the fact that this set of consoles has less original software than previous sets of consoles. They're just not as attractive when lots of the stuff they have is available on platforms I already own, whereas this wasn't the case with pretty much every other set of consoles in the past.

Even if you had a PC or last-gen consoles, you still wanted a 360, PS3 and/or a Wii for the new stuff they had, those 7th gen platforms didn't piggy-back on 6th gen for too long and pumped out new stuff. Far too much on PS4/Xbone is leftover from 7th gen and lots of new games are just sequels or have been butchered to fit the modern micro-purchase model most publishers are moving toward. Publishers thought consoles were on their way out prematurely so we got tons of rereleases and mobile games disguised as console games.

>>377745671
>I don't think that was his point, but yes multiplats are also selling points.
I already have a PS3
PS4 having Persona 5 isn't going to make me say "Oh shit, I really want to get that console now!"

Multiplats are cool if you have no other platforms I guess, but I already have all last gen systems, a really nice PC, a Wii U, a Switch and a 3DS.

The PS4 and Xbone need to get more games that I can't play on other platforms before I bother getting them. I'm not even really shitting on them or saying no one should want them, hell, this is the first gen where I wasn't full idort.
All I'm saying is that when you're considering buying a new platform, multiplats are really poor selling points. I don't give a fuck that PS4 has The Last of Us, Persona 5, Uncharted, or whatever else, because I can already play those games. Yakuza 0 and Bloodborne however are selling points, because I can't play them on anything else. I have a "5 exclusives I want to play before I buy rule", and we're 4 years into this gen and so far 2/3 of the current gen consoles haven't reached the 5 games mark yet, shits pretty fucking sad.

This gen has sucked.

>>377746141
You sound fucking retarded saying all that shit and also admitting you have a switch. You're a complete fucking moron.

>>377746141
>I already have a PS3

Yes, but we are not talking about you only. Anon made fair point, Persona 5 was released this gen and is worthwile game. Just because you refuse playing it on PS4 it don't matter much. I don't have PS3, Persona 5 and TLOU are selling points of PS4 for me.

>>377746292
No, that all makes perfect sense, 8th gen is fucking shitty when compared to pretty much every previous generation and a lack of new, original software that's not simply a vehicle for micro-purchases is a big part of the problem.

>>377746141
>we're 4 years into this gen and so far 2/3 of the current gen consoles haven't reached the 5 games mark yet

Horizon. U4, GR2, Nioh, Infamous, Bloodborne, Yakuza 0
?

>>377746292
>saying all that shit and also admitting you have a switch.

>Nintendo
>not thriving on exclusives
Nintendo consoles and handhelds are the only systems where I don't have to wait because they always get lots of neat exclusive games. This year alone switch is getting ARMS, Splatoon 2, Xenoblade 2 and Mario Odyssey. I'm not too worried about the Switch, there is a pretty good chance it will be getting another cool game I want announced at E3

>>377746505
No, it doesn't make perfect sense. 5 game rule alone makes him/you look retarded. The switch doesn't even have 5 games out yet let alone 5 exclusives.

>>377743813
you can thank companies only making sequels and dlc, season passes, and microtransactions for that. early last gen 2005-2009 is the last of good gaming

>>377746595
>Nintendo consoles and handhelds are the only systems where I don't have to wait because they always get lots of neat exclusive games

Really? What exclusives you play on Switch now?

>>377743813
That's funny, I have a lot of great memories of playing both Nintendoland and Mario Kart 8 with my friends.

And playing this here game on my own.. what was it called.. Ah yes, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, I think it was.

>>377746595
Ah so this is a drone topic. Makes sense.
And before you do further mental gymnastics the PS4 has a ton of exclusives as well. You may not like them but they are out there. I think you're an idiot for buying a switch for splatoon of all fucking things and nintendo's new shovelware ARMS. But hey we each have our preferences after all. I just prefer not to slobber on nintendick is all.

>>377746403
You apparently stopped reading his post there, because he addressed this
>I'm not even really shitting on them or saying no one should want them

For hobbyists (you know, that important "core" audience) this generation has been abysmal. Next to no reason to buy either new XB or PS console and Nintendo's was only good for their first-party games. These consoles aren't appealing to everyone they could, they're selling primarily to "normies" who may not have owned everything before, not hobbyists, and the hobbyists are the ones who keep the industry going when the casual audience loses interest.

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>>377746553
Horizon looks like a boring "style over substance" ubisoft style open world game, not really something I'd buy a console for

Uncharted is something I've never liked, I bought the first two games because they were highly recommended and found that while they did have really charming characters and writing, the gameplay itself just felt like a clunky attempt at aping off of Tomb Raider

Nioh just looks like a Souls clone without really understanding what made the first few Souls games good (didn't really care for DS2 or 3)

I played one of the earlier Infamous games and just wasnt into it. I can't say it was bad or anything, just not something I'd buy a console for.

Bloodborne however looks neat and everyone I know that has played it says it really feels more like Demon's Souls and Dark Souls

Again, I already mention that I'm really interested in Yakuza 0 as well

Either way, this whole gen has been starved for exclusives. Just look at previous years in the games industry and you'll see piles of classic games getting released every year. Now it takes an entire gen to get what we used to get every year.

>>377746640
>Harping on one tiny detail in order to start an argument instead of addressing the actual point
You're just shitposting, got it.

>>377746867
>For hobbyists (you know, that important "core" audience) this generation has been abysmal.

Source? You made some survey?

>>377747004
>using personal opinion as argument

You can't be serious. You realize I can say I don't like 99% of Nintendo games so they don't count too? Or that I don't like any game from last gen? Or 2 gens before?

>>377747023

Why are you so ready to argue against the idea that these consoles were and are pretty bad for consumers? You're in favor of blatantly anti-consumer bullshit?

>>377747006
>the PS4 doesn't have exclusives
>the exclusives it does have don't count
You're just shitposting, got it.

>>377747004
You do realize you yourself are writing these games off when these are system sellers for others, right? Uncharted 4 is a massive system seller, Killzone and inFamous were as well, and Horizon is the current system seller. These are all exclusives people buy a PS4 for. Nioh ended up being great if a bit samey at times.

>>377747234
If they are popular and consumers like them it means they are not bad for them. Why do you think your personal taste is any fact or can be presented as argument?

>>377747193
I'm convinced you're just a shill for some major western publisher.

When did
>I won't buy a console until it has ~5 exclusives I want
turn into
>You NEED to buy the console when it has ~5 exclusive games period, regardless of whether or not you like them

Oh, right, 8th gen, when exclusives dried up faster than your mom's cunt in the Sahara.

>>377747391
Those exclusives don't count because. Now buy a switch.

>>377743813

>Bloodbourne
>Splatoon

Xbox fags BTFO

>>377747193
You do realize I was just talking about why I personally wasn't interested in the PS4 right?

I'm not a shareholder, I'm a consumer. I'm not going to talk about the PS4 as if its a product I want to sell, I'm going to talk about it as if its a product I want to buy (which I don't yet)

If you don't like any Nintendo games thats fine, I would disagree with you if you said they were all bad, but you're still more than welcome to say that.
Personally I just prefer more traditional games that focus more on player interaction rather than minimizing player input while having "cool" things happen on screen. Its why I hate the Assassin's Creed games so much. Sure, everything on screen looks kinda cool I guess, but as a player all I'm doing is holding forward or mashing X. This is a problem that a lot of modern games suffer from, and its a big part of why I don't care about the vast majority of the PS4s current exclusives.

>>377743813
Bloodborne was pretty memorable and I honestly am not even a huge fan of FROM games.
I'd say they are among the most overrated overall.
But if we talk about memorable games, Bloodborne definitely was one.

Games I can remember well from this gen, in no particular order
>Bloodborne
>Total War: Warhammer (if PC counts)
>The Witcher 3
>Cottonfield 1 (/v/ hates it, but WW1 is seldom done and this is sadly the best WW1 game to date despite not being realistic)
>Alien: Isolation
There might be a few more, but these are the ones off the top of my head that stand out as unique experiences or memorable for some reason.

>>377747498
>explain why his point is stupid
>you are shill

I counted many games from westerns and japanese publishers. Calling me "western" shill makes you look even more silly.

>It don't even have 5 exclusives
>what about those
>I don't like them so they don't exist

Please tell me you are only pretending to be retarded.

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>>377747391
Again, I never said the PS4 wasn't worth buying at all, just that after 4 years it really doesn't have a fuck of a lot to show (but I wish it did).

Just because those games don't appeal to me doesn't mean I automatically think they're bad, they're just not something I would buy a console for. My point however, is that the frequency of good game releases has gotten insultingly low.
I know 1998 is a bit of an anomaly, but its not just that year, right up until 2004ish every year looked like this, there was always a good handful of awesome games coming out every year

>>377747681
>Personally I just prefer more traditional games that focus more on player interaction rather than minimizing player input while having "cool" things happen on screen.
So I guess you hate Color Splash?

>>377747459
>If they are popular and consumers like them it means they are not bad for them
lol

>>377747391
Here's how it worked before:

>I want [X] exclusives before I buy
>Okay here's [X] exclusives
>I don't like those
>Oh, okay, here's [X] more exclusives
>Repeat until you find ones you like

Now its:
>I want [X] exclusives before I buy
>Well there's [X] number of exclusives now, go buy it, you fucking faggot
>I don't like those
>LOL what do you want faggot I gave you exclusives? (Dodging the fact that there aren't any more exclusives and that these are the only ones that exist)

>>377747681
>You do realize I was just talking about why I personally wasn't interested in the PS4 right?

No I thought we were talking if this gen has notable exclusives not your own personal taste, nobody cares much about but ok.

>>377747774
You're not arguing the actual point, you're just harping on the fact that he said he has a Switch, you're starting consolewar bullshit. You're shitposting.

>>377747957
>lol

Well yes? Why whould they buy something that is worse for them?

>>377747498
exclusives are a thing of the past, not because of major publishers like Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo but because of the devs themselves.

The major companies have an interest in locking up titles to sell their platform but its better for game devs to betray their efforts and whore their games to as many people as possible for profits.

The brand loyalty thing is dying, and thats not necessarily a bad thing for the consumer.

Each gen has had less and less exclusive titles and that trend will continue. The only exclusive you'll see if that a game launches with one company a few months before they lanch with the other company. Or you'll see new gimmicks like "exclusive map only on Playstation" etc.
Thats because this is the only thing Publishers are going to be able to negotiate in. They will no longer be able to lock up the whole game forever like in the past.

>>377747968
>No I thought we were talking if this gen has notable exclusives
see
>>377747957
The number of notable exclusives is abysmal, it's basically just the games mentioned and that's it, there aren't any more, they don't exist.

Whereas before you had lots of choices, If you didn't like these 5 games, you might like those 5 games instead. But now we just have about 5 games total, that's the fucking point.

>>377748071
Nope. actually never mentioned Switch in any post, probably you are talking about someone else. Just pointed out your "I don't like it so it don't count" argument. And don't even accuse me of shitposting when you called me shill out of ass.

>>377746640
>5 game rule alone makes him/you look retarded. The switch doesn't even have 5 games out yet let alone 5 exclusives.
Again, Nintendo never has an issue with exclusives, its what they do best. I just wanted to get the switch early because I could, but I have no concerns about it getting 5 games I'll enjoy by the end of the gen, the PS4 and Xbone on the other hand I'm not so sure about.

I only recently started using the "5 games" rule because I got burned so hard with the PS3. I bought that thing at launch expecting great games, and year after year they all got cancelled or delayed or just vanished. Sure it got a handful of neat exclusives by the end of that gen, but after spending $599 on it and waiting 3-4 years before I got anything of note aside from MGS4 and maybe Demon's Souls, I wasn't about to make the same mistake this gen, so I decided to wait until a console had 5 cool games that I wanted to play that were actually released.
Again, I didn't wait with the Wii U either because I know how Nintendo is and they didn't dissapoint. I got Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101, Smash4, Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, Xenoblade Chronicles, 3DLand, NSMBU, Pikmin 3, Hyrule Warriors and a handful of other games I had fun with, which was more than enough to justify the purchase for me. I'm expecting the Switch to be more of the same, except with potentially more frequent releases and less droughts assuming they learned their lesson from the Wii U and actually stop focusing on the 3DS eventually.

>>377747925
>So I guess you hate Color Splash?
Yeah, I didn't even buy it after Sticker Star was crap. desu I didn't even like Super Paper Mario that much either, but at least it was kind of cool as its own thing

>>377748229
They're going away because games simply cost too much to make, and that is itself due in part to the increasing focus on story and visuals in games. We could have exclusives being developed on small budgets, but they won't be photo-realistic blockbusters that return hundreds of millions of dollars so publishers won't bother. They can't sustain themselves on anything less, that's a huge part of the problem.

>>377748416
I pirated Color Splash and still felt ripped off

>>377744113
Wii U has botw but it doesn't mean that either game isn't from this generation.

>>377748229
>exclusives are a thing of the past

Objectively wrong since every year they are getting releases.

>>377748268
>The number of notable exclusives is abysmal

It isn't. This gen is far from over and there are plenty notable exclusives and new ones still coming.

>>377748316
>Just pointed out your "I don't like it so it don't count" argument.
Never said that, you're making arguments up to argue against.

>>377748337
>Again, Nintendo never has an issue with exclusives, its what they do best. I just wanted to get the switch early because I could, but I have no concerns about it getting 5 games I'll enjoy by the end of the gen, the PS4 and Xbone on the other hand I'm not so sure about.


Conclusion: "Only Nintendo exclusives are good and I have no problem of buying system without exclusives as long as it's Nintendo. Exclusives on PS4 mostly don't count, because I don't like them".

DUDE WHAT IF WE ONLY REMASTER GAMES.

DUDE...

PS4 was a mistake.

>>377748713
Can you name a single Nintendo console that hasn't had metric shitloads of good first party exclusives?

PS3 and Xbox 360 sure struggled with exclusives, and PS4 and Xbone are having an even harder time. The switch is pretty much going to catch up with both of them in just a year.

Sure I like Nintendo, but I generally just like fun videogames, and Nintendo is great about consistently offering new ones. Gameplay is the most important aspect for me, so I don't care as much that "mario" games are "always about the same thing" when the gameplay changes radically with each franchise he is in. However on the flip side, you've got stuff like Uncharted and The Last of Us which are seemingly totally different games but they are essentially the same thing with a different skin.

The only reason I'm biased towards Nintendo out of the main three consoles is because they cater to my tastes, they make "gamey" games, which the other two seem to be afraid of doing lately.

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>>377748505
It's more than half over, 9th gen already fucking started, MS is prepping their next console.


PS4 has 35 retail exclusives, including things like the Uncharted collection, the Kingdom Hearts re-releases and imports never released outside Japan.

Wii U has 42 retail exclusives, including some import-only games

Xbone has 7 retail exclusives games.

But no, exclusives aren't drying up, no way!

>>377748713
>Conclusion: Something I pulled out of my ass
ftfy

WiiU has Bayonetta 2 and Fatal Frame 5. PS4 has Bloodborne and Gravity Rush 2. Xbone has...look, the point is most of these consoles haven't been ENTIRELY worthless. Just next to worthless.

>>377749102
While I'm not planning on buying it, the Switch is one of the few times where I can say "yeah that kind of makes sense" when it comes to re-releases.

EVERYONE owns an Xbox 360 or a PS3, however almost no one bought a Wii U. So re-releasing major Wii U games on the Switch adds some value for people that never owned a Wii U (ie: most people), and also lets good goyims buy the same game again so they can play it on the go.

While I don't plan on buying many (if any) Wii U re-releases on the Switch, I can at least see why it makes more sense than releasing a 1-2 year old game on a new console and just adding "remastered" to the end of it. Didn't the Last of Us "remaster" not even come with the DLC? I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain they made you buy that shit again.

>>377748337
3DLand and Smash4 are 3DS games. I don't get it how Persona 5 and TLOU don't count on PS4 and prove that "this gen sucks" but 3DS ports count on WiiU and justify purchase of system.

You Nintenbros are really funny.

>>377749227
>Wii U has 42 retail exclusives,
Including the Zelda remasters and 3DS ports.

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>>377743813
>>377746141
>>377746505
>>377748996

>>377749358
>It's okay becuase no one bought it
Yeah I knew you were going to say that. Goalpost moving faggot.

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>>377746836
Why is Nutendo so full of shovelware, bros?

They used to set trends, now they follow them, lapping up Sony's leftovers. Sad!

>>377749075
>>377749318
Keep on droning. Maybe if you shill enough you can get enough money to buy that shovelware ARMS you want so much!

>>377749358
>EVERYONE owns an Xbox 360 or a PS3
Most PS4 owners didn't have a PS3, that's part of the reason why TLOU was remastered. And the remaster did include the story DLC.

>>377749360
>3DLand and Smash4 are 3DS games. I don't get it how Persona 5 and TLOU don't count on PS4 and prove that "this gen sucks" but 3DS ports count on WiiU and justify purchase of system.
Well obviously I meant 3D world, but you're right, 3D Land is a 3DS game.
You're not considering that I might have already owned a Wii U when those games were released/before they were ported to 3DS though.

If a game gets a dual release and I already own both consoles, I'll just get it for the newer one because why not. However, if a game gets a dual release and I only own the older one, do I really have any reason to not just play it on the console I already own?

>>377749227
>But no, exclusives aren't drying up, no way!

They don't if they are getting released constantly.

>>377749318
No, it's something you said. No need to move goalposts now.

>>377749075
>Can you name a single Nintendo console that hasn't had metric shitloads of good first party exclusives?

Why only first party exclusives suddenly count? Every PlayStation system has many good exclusives both first and third party.

>>377749568
>Most PS4 owners didn't have a PS3
Do you have a source for this?

>>377743998
US
>COD
>COD
>COD

YUROP
>FIFA
>FIFA
>FIFA

JAPAN
>MARIO
>MARIO
>MARIO

Is there no country/region that actually has good taste in videogames?

>>377749360
>3DLand and Smash4 are 3DS games.
So is Woolly World and Hyrule Warriors, and they always put those games on Wii U lists too.
Nindrones are the the biggest hypocrites on the board

>>377749361
It includes the two HD Zelda games but that's it, I only checked "full exclusives" when counting for all platforms.

>http://gematsu.com/exclusives/wii-u/

For reference, PS3 and 360 both have dozens of exclusives, and even more if you check the "generation" box to see what was also exclusive at the time of release, because it won't include stuff that's since been ported.

MGSV was kind of memorable because of how unmemorable it was

>>377749592
>You're not considering that I might have already owned a Wii U when those games were released/before they were ported to 3DS though.

So it makes your point about Persona 5 and TLOU retarded. Because you know, I only have PS4 too. If 3D Land is reason to justify WiiU, Persona 5 is reason to justify PS4.

>>377749632
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2015/06/e3_2015_almost_half_ps4_owners_never_had_a_ps3

>>377749627
>They don't if they are getting released constantly.
The number is getting smaller, that's what I'm arguing. Are you arguing the number isn't getting smaller? Because you'd be factually incorrect.

>>377749627
>Why only first party exclusives suddenly count? Every PlayStation system has many good exclusives both first and third party.
Because I was talking about Nintendo and their first party titles you dingus.
Not every comment is some attempt to start a console war, I'm just saying that Nintendo in particular is great about making their own exclusives, and every platform they've ever made outside of maybe the Virtual Boy has lots of games I loved on it and couldn't play anywhere else.

I don't see why you can't really grasp this, again, I'm not shitting on Playstation or Xbox, just saying I kind of exclude Nintendo from the "5 games" rule because they have never let me down before. Even the Wii U, which was apparently an "objective failure with no games" had a pretty decent pile of exclusives that I had a lot of fun with. I know most people were really upset that they couldn't play FIFA, CoD, AssCreed or whatever on it, but I still loved the stupid little thing because it had lots of neat games I couldn't just play on my PC instead.

>>377749829
>So it makes your point about Persona 5 and TLOU retarded. Because you know, I only have PS4 too.
You might be right if I wasn't obviously talking about myself and why I didn't want a PS4 yet. I'm not sure why you don't get this and think my clearly subjective statements were intended to be objective.

>>377749886
Just stop responding, he's trying to start more consolewar shitposting

>>377749661
It's probably the same guy
>>377744845

I love him.

>>377749842
>The number is getting smaller

Source?

>>377749886
>Because I was talking about Nintendo and their first party titles you dingus.

No, we were talking about exclusives overall not only first party. You moved goalposts because it fits your own narration Nintendork. It's not my problem that third party devs shits on Nintendo.

>tfw you're not a jaded fuck who is unable to enjoy vidya
Feels good man.

>The current gen has no memorable games.

"he bought an xbone..."

>>377750358
>http://gematsu.com/exclusives/

It's okay if you have to count on your fingers, I don't mind.

>>377743813

Persona 5 is memorable. I fell for the Horizon Zero Dawn meme though. It's pretty generic. I suspect Zelda is memorable for the Switch but I haven't played it myself.

>>377750450
I see plenty exclusives on new gen consoles. Have some source that last gen had more after 4 years?

>>377747883
>the frequency of good game releases has gotten insultingly low.
I know 1998 is a bit of an anomaly, but its not just that year, right up until 2004ish every year looked like this, there was always a good handful of awesome games coming out every year
Something to understand is that the price of game development is booming, the A and AA market is mostly on 3DS and Vita, and now it looks like they're moving or testing the waters on Switch. Hell, look at the Japanese developer reasoning why they make games for Vita, it's because certain platforms need a certain amount of sales before they're seen as a success or they're even talked about. 3DS games aren't even seen as successful by the heads or developers unless they sell something like 500k minimum whereas on the Vita you can go as low as 5k and it's seen as a success both by the fanbase and investors. Same can apply to console development since there's more upfront costs to making a game there.

Squeenix is always doing stuff that costs a lot of money and time to make, Ubisoft, EA, and Konami spend tens of millions and are multiplat while barely taking risks and have massive teams to release their games so expecting exclusives from them is pretty nonsensical (Konami putting Bomberman on the Switch is the first time since Book of Shadows I think they've done an exclusive), Nintendo spreads out their content constantly and only has massive releases during console launch while also only doing it on their own system, and so on. Sega is like the only group that releases stuff on a regular basis either exclusively or occasionally multiplat (Usually Sonic). Everything else falls under indie territory or is never localized. This isn't like the 90's and early 00's anymore, your game isn't really seen as a success with only a couple hundred thousands sales or with shitty graphics.

>>377750569
8th gen:
>Show only full exclusives

>Wii U has ~40 games, it's dead
>PS4 has ~35 games, about that many still coming, some with TBA release dates
>Xbone has 7 games

7th gen:
>Show only full exclusives

>PS3 has dozens
>360 has dozens
>No section for the Wii, but it also has dozens of exclusives
>Doesn't include anything that's no longer exclusive but was at the time of release, which would pad out the list even further

Add in digital-only games and the picture is still the same, 7th gen blows 8th gen the fuck out several times over. And before you say
>Well, 8th gen isn't over yet!
It also lists announced exclusives, we're not magically tripling the number of exclusives on each platform in the next couple years.

>>377751059
7th gen lasted 8 years, this 4 so far.

Define "dozens". How many after 4 years?

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>Only exclusives matter
I"ve notice that only pc faggots like Op make these bullshit threads daily on here.

Man the mental gymnastics that Nintendo drones have to do is fucking outstanding.

>>377751519
>Only exclusives matter
When you already own a bunch of platforms, exclusives really do matter.
Why would I buy a game on PS4 if I already have a really good PC that can play the game as well?

>>377751626
They still cannot recover after WiiU failure. One retard even justify it with 3DS ports.

>>377751695
Why would I buy a game on PS3 if I already have a really good PS4 that can play the game as well?

>>377751626
>>377751712
Why are you two so upset that someone doesn't want to buy a PS4 yet and/or liked their Wii U?

Some of us just don't like FIFA or "cinematic experiences", which drastically limits what the PS4 has to offer

>>377751827
IT DOESNT FUCKING COUNT!

>>377743998
How can people play the same shit over and over again?

>>377751302
>http://gematsu.com/exclusives/ps3

>http://gematsu.com/exclusives/360

Only leave "Full" checked. I didn't count because I didn't feel like it, but there are dozens of games there on both platforms whereas there are a literal fraction listed for PS4 and Xbone.

Just because 7th gen lasted for a couple extra years doesn't mean 8th will though, you shouldn't operate under that assumption. I'm just looking at the number of games, that's it. Even if we assume the number doubles for every platform it's still well under what 7th gen had, even if 8th gen drags on for another decade PS4's list is the only one that's potentially getting bigger.

Xbone has seven exclusive games and isn't getting more, Wii U had 40-something exclusives and isn't getting more, PS4 might double its count. This absolutely pales in comparison to the, AGAIN , literal dozens and dozens of exclusive games 7th gen consoles had.

>>377751851
Some of us like games and that limits what the Wii U can offer. Mainly because it had none.

>>377751827
If you already own a PS4 I don't see any reason to get it on the PS3. But if you /don't/ own a PS4 yet and already own a PS3, then its not really a selling point for the new console is it?

>>377751921
>Mainly because it had none.
It still has more exclusives than the other two consoles, and its been officially dead for months
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>377751898
>I didn't count because I didn't feel like it

...
So if you didn't count how can you say number is smaller. Are you retaded by any chance?

>>377743813
Witcher was shit lol

>>377751994
>If I count the HD Zelda remasters as Wii U exclusives, but don't count any PS4 remasters, then it means the Wii U had more games huehuehue
Fuck off.

>>377751994
Such classics like devils third.

>>377744221
it's an ACTION RPG fuckhead, of course it's action focused

>>377751851
And some of us don't like rehashed Nintendo cartoons and prefer real games. Stop crying because someone point out autism in your logic.

>>377744065
Halo 5 and Forza 3

Civ for the pc

Plenty of great multiplats like mgsv and DOOM

this gen's been great..

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>>377752080
Remember when Nintendo drones tried to defend pic related by telling people to git gud?

>>377750372
I'm currently playing BotW, Star Fox Zero, DS3 and MH3U again. This has been the best gen for me since the dreamcast and ps2 era. Feels good man.

>>377752343
>Star Fox Zero
opinion immediately discarded.

>>377752317
There's nothing wrong with it. It's a great game.

>>377752412
What's wrong with Star Fox Zero?

>>377752463
>someone shit talks Knack or The Order
>PS4bros don't give a shit

>someone shit talks Star Fox or Paper Mario Color Splash
>akshually those are good
Nintendofags are the worst fanbase on /v/.

>>377752463
Just like WiiU is great console. Please buy it.

>>377752556
Terrible boss fights, barely any on-rails levels, stupid control scheme, obnoxious dialogue (USE YOUR MOTION CONTROLS MY SON)

Japan is saving this gen

>Breath of the Wild
>Persona 5
>Yakuza 0
>Nier Automata
>Bloodborne/DaS3
>Nioh
>RE7
>Mario Odyssey soon

The west has produced nothing of value and the turks are about to give the death blow with Bannerlord

>>377752560
Woah, maybe because knack and the Order are literally shit

>>377752662
Just git gud you shitter and you'll see just how great it is.

>>377751931
So same if I own PS4. There is no reason to get game on PC.

PS4 and Xbone are last gen, we gen 9 now guys, get with the times

>>377752834
Star Fox Zero and Paper Mario Color Splash are literally shit

>>377752883
With Nintendo we are always gens ahead. Just wait 2 years and we will get SwitchU.

>>377752896
But they're Nintendo games...

>>377752648
It's not great but it does have the best games right now.

>>377752991
yes it has classics like Devil's Turd, Paper Mario Color Trash and Star Fox Zero (copies sold)

>>377752991
>it does have the best games right now.

No, it don't, PS4 has better games.

>>377752017
360 has over 100

PS3 has over 200

Can't count the Wii since it's not there and I don't feel like finding numbers elsewhere. Have you been BTFO thoroughly enough now? PS3 alone has more exclusives than all three 8th gen platforms combined.

Even if we assume 8th gen carries on for 8 years, Wii U is already done and Xbone isn't getting anything else that's exclusive outside of first-party titles, and those not named Halo are still likely to go to PC. PS4 is not magically pulling hundreds of exclusive games out of its ass in the next few years.

>>377752982
sorry but generations aren't based on hardware strength. Are you going to imply that something like GBA was 4th gen? Or DS was 5th?
The 3DS was the start of gen 8 and Switch is the start of gen 9

>>377753069
What does the ps4 have that's better than BotW or Bayonetta?

>>377753242
BOTW is a Switch game

>>377753242
Disgae- oh..
Call of Duty Infinite Warfare:^)

>>377753187
>360 has over 100
>PS3 has over 200

Source? I'm really curious of that 200 PS3 exclusives.

>>377753242
Bloodborne and The Last of Us.

>>377753464

>>377751898

It includes import-only games and some re-releases, but so does the list for PS4. Again, I'm only leaving the "full" button selected and counting the retail games.

>>377753292
Then how am I playing it on my Wii U?

>>377752206
>Halo 5
I love it when Halo is online-only and plays like my favorite shooter, Call of Duty!

>>377753653
Enjoying that 12 FPS?

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>>377751695
>spending +$800 just to enjoy playing games.

It's only people like you who make these stupid threads daily. Titanfall 2 runs good on consoles and looks nice on my ps4 pro. The multiplats ran very well on my og ps4 and I don't have unreasonable high standards to not enjoy my games. A game being an "exclusive" doesn't magically make it a great game. It's impossible to even talk about games in here when faggots like you exist to shit up threads like this.

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>>377753546
>The Last of Us.

>>377743813
Duh

Producing games is too expensive these days for developers to take any risks.

Technological advancement will kill gaming.

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>>377753771
>its okay when Nintendo does cinematic games

>>377753691
You realize that saying Mario Kart is better than Call of Duty is not a fact?

>>377753709
It's OK.

>>377753818
Nobody praises that shit though. It never even brought up.

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>>377753771
>Zelda:BOTW

>>377753973
Lots of drones praise it. Lurk more Wii U threads

>>377753742
>runs good on consoles and looks nice on my ps4 pro
>The multiplats ran very well on my og ps4
>It's impossible to even talk about games in here
Let's see, mentioning the product and how great it is, disparaging and dismissing any existing or potential criticism, trying to change the subject instead of addressing real complaints, any more bullshit straight out of the marketer's handbook?

>>377747004
>it takes an entire gen to get what we used to get every year.
that's probably because games take more time and money than they used to.

>>377754071
are people unironically praising that shit game? We really will never get the TTYD sequel.. fucking fanboy faggots

>>377754278
Now that its been out awhile the contrarians are defending it

>>377743813
I can dig Doom and the Xenoverse games, bout it. Everything else is a watered down followup to a previous franchise or just boring as fuck.

>>377754201
Maybe they should make more than just huge spectacle games and make a few smaller more ambitious games once in a while

>>377754397
Nintendo threads are shitshows anyway, nothing but shills and retards muddying up and polluting discussion while attempting to force a desired narrative

>>377754201
And that's probably because the casual audience publishers cater to primarily want to buy photo-realistic, story-focused games, resulting in publishers being unwilling or afraid to deviate from that formula beyond pushing for alternate revenue sources like micro-purchases

>>377744581
not memorable if its a clone

>>377754680
>its a clone

No, just because game is spiritual successor or sequel it's not a clone. Stop using autistic buzzwords.

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>>377754096
Am not a marketer or any sort of shill. I don't even care about most of ps4's exclusives unlike fanboys, idorts and pc gamers. I bought a ps4 because most of the game I liked and was interested in weren't being made ps3 anymore. Your obsession over owning all platforms only hurts you and doesn't make better than pc only gamers or ps4 and xbox only gamers.

>>377754096
>marketer

He only stated that he don't want to pay 800$ for games he already have on his console. Why are you so mad?

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>>377749660
>weeb trash isn't even big in Japan

>>377755398
PS4 and Xbone run the same games I can already play on PC, why would I want them?

That's the point, they're not worth owning anymore. They're just shitty PCs for people who either can't afford one, which is reasonable, or are too lazy to use one, they don't offer much of an advantage in terms of software or convenience anymore.

>>377755748
PC runs the same games I can already play on my PS4. Why would I want it?

>>377755748
>PS4 and Xbone run the same games I can already play on PC

PC runs Bloodborne and Persona 5? Wow.

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>>377743813
>The current gen has no memorable games
Oh you must be a PCfrien-

>thank fuck for Witcher
>Stalker
>and indie games
yup.

Always the most sad and jaded group of people

>>377755829
Because it runs them better, is backward compatible, playing online doesn't cost anything extra, has a wide range of peripheral support, etc.

Consoles used to offer things a PC couldn't, like lots of exclusive games, local multiplayer/co-op and ease of use, but they're losing those advantages and are slowly becoming budget PCs without many of the advantages of either a console or a PC.

>>377755985
Maybe he was talking about PC? PC don't have gens but really there was no memorable PC games this console gen.

>>377743998
Those are basically the same games as last gen except Splatoon.

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>>377756094
But there are. PC gets at least 1 console port per year, meaning that there are at least 3 games already. Let me see.... EDF4.1 from last year (AFAIK), and Nier Automata this year.

Sure he's missing out on 95% of good current gen games but still there ARE a handful of good ones from these past 3 years even on PC.

>>377749660
It's almost like one of these isn't a shit AAA multiplat calender year rehash.

>>377756082
Damn, so if I own PS3 there is no point of getting PS4 version that run game better. But if I own PS4 I should get PC to run game better? You sound like drone, that makes no sense, you realize that?

>Consoles used to offer things a PC couldn't, like lots of exclusive games, local multiplayer/co-op and ease of use
They still have every of that.

>>377756094
ahuehue

This gen is starting to become one of the better gens as of 2017 desu

>>377756082
>Because it runs them better
As long as you spend enough money for a rig that can. And even then, PC gets more shit ports than consoles do.
>backward compatible
Not with everything. And emulators run on other devices, some more convenient than PC (like PSP)

Consoles still have the physical media advantage, and when they pay for shit like ps plus and Xbox gold, they get their money's worth tenfold by the end of the year if they play the (((free))) games.
PS4, Xbone, and Switch might be underpowered, but they're perfectly viable choices for someone that doesn't care about maximizing resolution

>>377752072
Sony games are shit though. Isnt only 1 Sony exclusive even alive anymore?

>>377756389
A PS4 will play PS4 games and has a handful of re-releases from older PlayStation consoles.

A PC will play most of those PS4 games and lots of games that were on PS3, PS2 and other consoles. It's also, you know, a computer.

>They still have every of that.
Local multiplayer and co-op is missing from many notable franchises, including some that used to have it. Consoles require huge patches and updates, many games require the internet to function or play, publishers often use online connectivity as a crutch and ship unfinished games with the "patch it later" mentality and as this thread already conclusively proved exclusive software is also dwindling.

>>377743813
>The current gen has no memorable games.

Spoken like someone who isn't paying any fucking attention to what's out.

I'm right now playing Nier Automata and Persona 5. Both will be talked about in 10 years, 15 years, 20 years. Millions of casuals are playing things like Overwatch, they will remember it for decades to come. Memorable games are all over the fucking place, dozens of them.

>>377752113
>open world adventure with RPG elements #22450

Haha, sorry but I already played that before

>>377756517
>One good year out of five
lolno

>>377756836
No, they got completely frozen and people stopped buying them completely Nintendidloer

>>377756906
>Both will be talked about in 10 years, 15 years, 20 years
They're good games but I wouldn't say this about them more so than any other popular Japanese game.

>Millions of casuals are playing things like Overwatch
And that's fucking awful, it's a mobile game in disguise. Millions of people are just being conditioned to buy loot boxes. The game made half a billion dollars and Blizzard has done relatively little with it, it exists to make money through micro-purchases.

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>>377755748
>they are shitty pc's
There consoles not computers you stupid faggot. If I have a powerful console then why do need to spend money to buy a more powerful computer to play video games. It looks like your standards are way high to the point were you have a very limited taste and enjoyment in games. Kinda feel sorry you take this shit too serious.

>>377756836
>Sony games are shit though
Are they?
I played Gravity Rush 2 recently and it was much more fun than all the Wii U games from 2016.

>>377756706
>As long as you spend enough money for a rig that can

That's the beauty of it though, if you do spend more money on a more powerful system you have full control of how that power is put to use.

If you buy a PS4 Pro you don't get to think "Ok Ill keep the graphics the same and push for 60fps" or "I'll turn the graphic quality up to keep the same resolution/framerate". You pray that the developer issued a "Pro patch", but even then you'll be dictated to by the developer how your pro systems power is spent. If no such patch is issued you can only put that power to hitting the target framerate more reliably.

>>377756870
>A PC will play most of those PS4 games and lots of games that were on PS3, PS2 and other consoles. It's also, you know, a computer.
Well yeah, but I don't need new gaming PC to play them. I can play them all on my old consoles.
>Local multiplayer and co-op is missing from many notable franchise
Like?
>Consoles require huge patches and updates
It's hardly inconvenient, everything is automatic. Also you can use console anytime you want offline.
> this thread already conclusively proved exclusive software is also dwindling.
Where? Are you the same retard who said last gen got more exclusives but when I asked for source number he just said dozen?

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>>377756927
>jump on platforms
>stomp on Goombas
>collect coins
Yeah man, I've been doing these since 1985 too! It never gets tiring, amiright? Haha.

>>377757140
>ur standards are just too high!

No, the 8th gen consoles just fucking suck.

I own all three 7th gen consoles. I own a PS2, GC and Xbox. I owned an N64 and a PS1. I owned an SNES and a Genesis/Mega Drive. They were all worth owning because they all had games I wanted.

I don't own a PS4 or Xbone because they have a grand total of four games between them that I can't play on something I already own.

>>377756927
>game where you have to press buttons to make something happen

Haha, sorry but I already played your favorite shitty game before.

>>377757196
>single player

Enjoy your alone time :)))))))))))

Rocket league, FIFA/Madden, Kart, or Smash are all better games . Literally nobody buys a Sony console because they want Sony developed games.

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>>377757140
>consoles
>powerful
pick one

>>377757554
What is even your point? You think single player games are inherently bad?

>>377743813
is depression what PCfags play everyday ?

what a sad system

>>377745462
>Switch is "next gen"


nintenbros actually believe this.

>>377757341
Titanfall doesn't have it, Destiny doesn't have it, Halo dropped it for 5, Battlefield/front don't have it, Overwatch doesn't have it, even Splatoon was limited to a shitty 1-on-1 mode for local play. Most popular shooters that aren't Call of Duty are missing local play.

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>>377757557
>PC
>not PitifulCucks machine
pick one

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>200 posts in
>Barely any mention of the best game of the generation ITT

>>377757716
>Overwatch
>franchise
Those games never had local co op to begin with aside of Halo. What about RE games that got local co op? What about fighting games? Sports games, racing games?

>>377757404
That actually does sound fun. "Push X" simulators are boring and overdone. Probably why they sell poorly :))))))))))))

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>>377757554
>Cowadoody/BF/CSGO/DOTA2/Overwatch/etc.
>competitive multiplayer are cancerous and only for shitty dudebros!
>proceed to play Splatoon and MK8

Can someone please explain this shit?

>>377757557
>Forza
>Arma

They are getting desperate.

>>377757341
>Where? Are you the same retard who said last gen got more exclusives but when I asked for source number he just said dozen?
Can you not fucking read, you simpering shitwit?

>>377753187

They have hundreds, 8th gen doesn't even have 100 total between all three platforms.

>It's hardly inconvenient, everything is automatic
Not an argument, it is inconvenient when the alternative was not having to do anything. Played some MCC with a friend last week, for example, and we had to wait a good two hours for the game to download its updates and install before playing. Don't remember this shit when Halo 2 came out, I just popped it in and fucking played.

>>377757431
>because they have a grand total of four games between them that I can't play on something I already own.
Horseshit. What about Bloodborne, Driveclub, Ratchet and Clank, Killzone, Tearaway (No, the Vita version is not the same, PS4 version has massively different levels and extended old ones, completely different gimmicks, a completely different story, etc), Uncharted 4, Kingdom Hearts 2.8 for 0.2, Knack, The Last Guardian, inFamous Second Son and First Light, Gravity Rush 2, Ryu ga Gotoku Ishin and Yakuza 0 (Unless you're going to be a semantic asshole and say they have PS3 versions that are Japan only), Yakuza Kiwami, and Yakuza 6? Hell, we even have Kingdom Hearts 3 and Spider-man in the future.

How about Halo 5 even if it was a mess? Sunset Overdrive? Gears of War 4? Killer Instinct? Crackdown? Scalebound if it ever happens because the trademark was updated?

For me a new console is 5-7 games I want to buy. Sure, if you don't want these games that's fine, but there are games there that you clearly are ignoring and have massively high standards if you can't pick out at least 5 games for the system while ignoring multiplats. I mean, on the Xbone it's way easier but not for the PS4, for that you're just blocking your ears and saying it's shit. Even the Switch has enough games for me to warrant buying it and most people consider it barebones.

>>377758129
No, I can't. You pulled number out of your ass.

>not an argument

Proving that something is convenient is not argument against incovenience? How do you expect to get online features with no updates?

>Played some MCC with a friend last week, for example, and we had to wait a good two hours for the game to download its updates and install before playing

Every non retared person would update game earlier while playing different one. It's not that hard unless you are mentally challenged.

>>377757657
Inherently less fun.

>>377757404
Last of us: Just shoot shit and enjoy your movie
Bloodborne: Kill monsters and win
Any fps: Shoot and win

See how retarded you look when you simplify any game

>>377757978
>its okay because its a new IP
Why shouldn't a console shooter have local MP? No, its not okay just because it starts out never having it in the first place that's, the problem, that it doesn't have it and easily could. The new RE doesn't have co-op at all, online or offline, I know some recent racing games don't have splitscreen like Project Cars or Driveclub. Nintendo still cares about local play but even Splatoon had shitty local modes.

>>377757716
>cod is 2 player only splitscreen because muh graphics, 4 player has been removed for years
no wonder people have been turning against it more and more each year

>>377758038
Multiplayer sells because it's fun.

>>377758481
by your logic BOTW is less fun than Madden.
You're retarded.

>>377758497
>what is irony

Read again post he was replying to you idiot.

>>377758415
>No, I can't. You pulled number out of your ass.
This is easily the third or fourth time I've linked this to you, you blathering moron.

>http://gematsu.com/exclusives/
>Pick platform
>Only leave "Full" checked
>Fucking count the retail exclusive games, like the first three fucking times I told you to

PS3 has over 200, 360 over 100, Wii U has 42, PS4 has 35 and Xbone has fucking 7. That's right, 7 exclusive retail games. But no, you're TOTALLY right! Exclusives aren't becoming increasingly less common and PS4 is going to catch up to all three 7th gen console totals in the next four years!

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>>377757557
I was playing some until dawn and doom yesterday and the graphics were pretty amazing. The order, batman arkham knight and horizon zd still look like best graphically impressive ps4 games imo.
>>377757431
I don't get if consoles have the games you want which are mostly multiplats since there on steam then why are you complaining like 9 year old twat. Just stick to being a pc gamer and stop crying like a little bitch. Even if console had exclusives, you never buy them because your pc gamer at heart and have developed stupid standards like the rest of them. I'll go back to enjoy so games on I'm currently playing while you sit here own a weeb board cry and make more pro pc platform war threads.

>>377758690
Well I've logged over 40 days playing all the Maddens through current year so yeah. I love multiplayer games. Shame that this fact makes rocket league the only good game on my PS4 :))))))))))))

>>377758839
>HURR DURR why are you lamenting the fact that products you used to buy and enjoy are not longer worth buying because they now lack what made them enjoyable?
>DURR ur standards are too high even tough you're said repeatedly you want to buy consoles!

Gee, as far as melon-scratchers go that one sure is a honey-doodle!

I'm complaining because these consoles suck and consoles used to not suck.

>>377758924
>Well I've logged over 40 days playing all the Maddens through current year
so you just have shit taste then

>>377758792
>This is easily the third or fourth time I've linked this to you

Where is this number written there you imbecile? You can clearly see at first sight that PS3 don't have 200 full exclusives and you are baiting. Why are you comparing 8 years to 4 years you cretin?

>>377758690
All open world games are less fun than non open world games. BotW was the worst gaming purchase I've made in years.

>>377759174
>>377758924
some SERIOUS shit taste in this thread, buy Disgaea tonight fuckboi

>>377759174
So is Bayonetta 1 and 2 less fun than CoD? I mean, they ARE single player games.

>>377759101
>Where is this number written there you imbecile?
I fucking counted them, you shit-eating dicklicker. PS3 has a little over 200 exclusive full-retail games, 360 has slightly over 100 full-retail exclusive games. It's not an article, it's just a fucking list of exclusive games for those consoles.

I'll give you these very simple instructions, yet again:
>Pick platform
>Only leave "Full" checked
>Fucking count the retail exclusive games, like the first FOUR fucking times I told you to

>>377759430
>I fucking counted them

Looks like you apparently can't count then. Please go back to elementary school, return and argue about numbers ok?

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>>377751851
>PS4
>can play AAA multiplats
>gets tonnes of exclusives
>wide selection of genres; RPG, JRPG, ARPG, sports, racing, fighting, shooter, competitive MP, indieshit, action adventure, etc.

>Switch/WiiU
>no AAA multiplat
>Mario rehashes, Mario spinoff rehashes, Zelda rehashes, Zelda HD rehashes, Nintenkiddy rehashes, wagglin' shit, babbyshit, shovelwares, 5-year-old indieshit, multiplats ported from PS3/X360, etc.

And some of us aren't manchildren or Nintentards who are satisfied with just playing Mario, Zelda, and other Nintentūrds for the rest of their lives. We just want to play real games instead.

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> nah mate your just faggot who can't enjoy console gaming like you use to. Consoles get more advanced each generation and gained new features and technical specs enhancements. I done talking with you since your just a boring pc shitposting faggot like the rest of them on this board.

>>377759776
They will hide behind PC by saying you should play multiplats on PC, but somehow PS3 multiplats like TLOU or Persona 5 don't count on PS4.

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>>377759565
No, those numbers are accurate.
.
Count the number of full-retail exclusives (colored RED) and you will come up with slightly more than 200 games for PS3 and slightly more than 100 games for 360.

Here's PS4's list of full-retail exclusives

>>377759937
>Have a PS3

>Buy new machine that will play PS4 games
or
>Buy new machine that will play 95% of PS4s library in addition to being backward compatible and having access to 1000's of other games

>>377759885
>Consoles get more advanced each generation and gained new features
And lost old ones

>>377759997
Not really since within couple of seconds I found PS3 "exclusives" being actually multiplats released on PS4. Also again, you compare 8 years to 4 which makes your whole point broken.

>current gen
>post Wii U

Why are you posting a dead system for? You DID say current gen didn't you?

>>377760261
>lost old ones

Like?

>>377760348
splitscreen

>Consoles get more powerful
>Can't even do the same shit they did 15 years ago
Sad.

>>377760460
>splitscreen

No, still exist. Played RE:Revelation with my friend lately.

>>377760164
>Buy new machine that will play PS4 games
>and PS3 games

Seems good to me.

>1000s other games

That I can play on 200$ tablet.

>>377760262
>Not really since within couple of seconds I found PS3 "exclusives" being actually multiplats released on PS4
And, guess what, the PS4 list does too, you goddamned retard. I see the Uncharted collection, Kingdom Hearts and Killzone remasters listed for PS4 too, removing them just strengthens my argument.

>Also again, you compare 8 years to 4 which makes your whole point broken.
No, it doesn't, and I explained this to you already too, you fucking moron.

Wii U isn't getting anymore games at all, let alone exclusives. Xbone has 7 exclusives and also isn't getting more. That's fewer than 50 full-retail exclusives between them, and the Wii U list also includes games like the Zelda remasters and Woolly World which has since been ported to 3DS.

PS4 so far has another good 30 or so full-retail exclusives announced, but lots don't even have release dates. The PS4 not getting another 200-300 exclusive games. It doesn't matter if it keeps getting games for four more years, it'll be the only one getting exclusives and will not come anywhere close to making up that massive gap.

>>377760569
Its getting cut a lot mire often, I had tons pf games to choose from last gen but not nearly as much this gen unless I want to play sports games or random indie titles that were also probably on last-gen consoles.

>>377760914
>And, guess what, the PS4 list does too, you goddamned retard. I see the Uncharted collection, Kingdom Hearts and Killzone remasters listed for PS4 too, removing them just strengthens my argument.

No, it makes your whole argument even more retarded because you can't count propely number of full exclusives from any system on this list you fucking autist.
>comparing 4 years to 8 is ok because I said so

Jesus Christ, you need medical help.

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>>377760460
Online took over add many comfy features to engage with people. Online coop is now a thing. Splitscreen was limited and had alot of restrictions unlike online coop. The naruto storm 4 game has local 2 player mode so stfu idiot.

>>377761049
So don't say it can't. Developers just don't do this because it's outdated concept. Less people want to play on half screen.

>>377761180
>Consoles are getting fewer exclusvie games
>"LOL nu-uh!"
>Yes, here's my source
>"There's no NUMBER printed here! I have to actually COUNT them myself!?"
>There's 200+ for PS3 and 100+ for 360
>"LOL nu-uh!"

This is how this discussion went. I gave you numbers and a source, you proceeded to ignore them like a moron.

Wii U isn't getting any mote games period, Xbone has no upcoming officially-announced exclusive games. That leaves the PS4 with a gap of a good 220 or more (remember we're not been counting Wii exclusives) to make up for to reach 7th gen totals. It so far has about 35 full-retail exclusives with maybe 30 more announced.

Sorry, your argument that we haven't waited the full 8 years 7th gen lasted doesn't really poke any holes in my argument because, as the facts plainly state, we cannot expect PS4 to make up that MASSIVE 220 game gap when its taken it four years to get those first 35 full-retail exclusives.

>>377761308
>Developers just don't do this because it's outdated concept
Why is it outdated?

No, local multiplayer is not outdated just because we can play online too, there's no reason we can't have both. Publishers aren't including it because they either want to cut on development costs are feel it leads to more micro-purchases and/or DLC sales. Of course the consoles are capable of it, its whether or not the publisher wants it there.

>>377761701
>This is how this discussion went

No, discussion went with you providing exclusives that are actually multiplats.
Another of your brilliant argument is that PS4 will get less exclusives per whole life cycle with source being your anus.

How long are you going to make laughing stock of yourself?

>>377761849
>No, local multiplayer is not outdated

I said splitscreen is outdated not local multiplayer. You have problem with reading? I can play Tekken, GGXrd, FIFA, Gran Turismo local.

>>377755959
>PC runs Bloodborne and Persona 5? Wow.
No Bloodborne yet, but it can already play the first 3 souls games, and you can also play Persona 5 through a PS3 emulator

>>377762223
3 Souls games are not Bloodborne, you can't play Persona 5 through emulator, it's unplayable and no one finished it on PC. Stop baiting.

>>377762021
How long are you going to keep denying simple numbers and facts?

8th gen has far fewer exclusives than 7th gen, this is a fact and it will not change because, AGAIN, you fucking moron, PS4 is not going to get another TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY full-retail exclusive games, and even then it STILL has to make up for however many the Wii had too.

>No, discussion went with you providing exclusives that are actually multiplats.
PS4s list has them too, AGAIN this just makes my argument stronger, because it means fewer PS4 exclusives, you shitshuffler.

>7th gen full-retail exclusives: 310+ whatever is on the Wii
>8th gen full-retail exclusives: 86 across all platforms, two of which are done getting exclusives
But nope, I'm wrong, 86 is the bigger number, right?

>>377743998
Mario and Smash are Nintendo COD and fifa.

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>>377762463
>you can't play Persona 5 through emulator, it's unplayable and no one finished it on PC. Stop baiting.
Runs about 20-30FPS so far, so its on par with PS4

>>377762817
The only real difference is that all of those Mario games are completely different and only get one installment per console, while all of those CoD and FIFA games are the same shit that get new releases every year

>>377762195
Then why has LAN been cut from most console games too? Oh, right, because Sony and MS need to sell those subscriptions.

Playing with someone sitting next to you is not outdated.

>>377762641
>, PS4 is not going to get another TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY full-retail exclusive games

PS3 never had 200 EXCLUSIVES you fucking autist. Check list again, it's far less and many of them are MULTIPLATS. How many times do I have to repeat it for your empty skull? Also stop using your autistic predictions out of ass as argument.

>>377743998
>its ok when Nintendo does it, the post

>>377762817
>6 Call of Duty games between Smash 3 and Smash 4

Yeah, totally the same thing.

>>377762824
It runs about 10fps and with less speed only short segment. Full game is unplayable. PS4 don't run at 20fps. You are getting more retarded.

>>377747004
Those are all subjective opinions. When a faggot comes on this board lamenting, "THIS GEN HAS NOTHING TO OFFER. HOW WILL VIDYA SURVIVE THIS AWFUL GEN? THOSE GAMES YOU LISTED DON'T COUNT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THEM"

Those games you just shit on are legitimate reasons for other people to own that platform. If you don't like them then that's your problem. Stop being cynical and maybe you'll start actually enjoying video games again.

>>377749660
Yes, Japan, as seen above.

>>377763212
>Stop being cynical and maybe you'll start actually enjoying video games again.
Those games don't interest me because they don't look like fun games, not because I'm too cynical to enjoy anything. I'm sure some people think they look awesome, but lots of people love Transformers movies as well, but I can still call those garbage and say "there are no good movies coming out anymore, I wish I had a reason to go to the theater again"

>>377762887
>Consoles
>LAN

Are you retarded or pretending? When I had to buy 2 consoles and 2 tv to play local multi? This is not PC.

>>377762934
SO

DOES

PS4

YOU FUCKING MORON

If half the PS3 list doesn't count then half the PS4 list also doesn't count. Oh, look, my argument doesn't change, as PS3 still has DOZENS more exclusives than PS4, and PS4 has a whopping 20 full-retail exclusive games.


>Also stop using your autistic predictions out of ass as argument.

Predicting that the PS4 will not amass another 200+ full-retail exclusive games in four years when it got ~35 in these first four years is very realistic and reasonable.

Are you done doing these mental gymnastics to try to convince yourself that 8th gen isn't lacking in exclusive software when the simple, publicly available facts and numbers say you're 100% fucking wrong?

>>377763349
>Those games don't interest me because they don't look like fun games

And we should care about your own special taste because?

>>377744581
I literally just played it for the first time two weeks ago, beat it a week ago and I have no desire to replay and not to much memory of it. It's a 7/10 at best.

>>377763365
>When I had to buy 2 consoles and 2 tv to play local multi?
Well, 8th gen, because so much shit is online-only, for one :^)

360, PS3 and the original XB supported LAN, a couple GC games did as well, and there may be more I'm leaving out. If splitscreen is so outdated, why don't they let us play over LAN? The consoles are more than capable.

>>377763458
Because thats what I was talking about in my original post.
Its not my fault you retards keep taking clearly subjective statements as if they're objective.

>>377763483
>It's a 7/10 at best.
Its the only exclusive the PS4 had that was worth playing for like 4 years, at this point its just a meme

>>377763458
By that logic why should anyone listen to your opinion that it is fun?

>>377763664
We only have one scale and adjust our experiences to fit.

If all you have is one game and shit tier AAA multiplats, the game must be GOAT.

>>377763429
>SO
>DOES
>PS4

So what you fucking autistic autist?

>my argument dosen't change

Your argument is broken because you can't use list that has multiplats counted as exclusives on both sides so you won't be able to compare them. Is it really so fucking hard to comprehend? My god someone dropped you after birth?

>Predicting that the PS4 will not amass another 200+ full-retail exclusive games in four years when it got ~35 in these first four years is very realistic and reasonable

Why PS4 need 200 exclusives to exceed PS3 number when PS3 never had 200 exclusives to begin with you mongolid? Read again what I said.

>>377763349
>Those games don't interest me because they don't look like fun games
Then don't buy the console. I'm not here to sell you on a PS4. I didn't even need to read the rest of your post.

What about this jrpg?
>OH THAT'S WEEBSHIT IT DOESN'T COUNT!
What about this Soulsgame?
>OH ITS JUST A SOULS CLONE IT DOESN'T COUNT!
What about this 3rd person action adventure?
>OH MOVIE GAME DOESN'T COUNT!

Sony could go through entire genres and it wouldn't satisfy you. So why even bother?

>>377763604
>Well, 8th gen, because so much shit is online-only, for one :^)

Nope, just played GG:Xrd with my friend.

360, PS3 and the original XB supported LAN

So does PS4 then.

>>377763679
No, who are you quoting? Your ass?

>>377755695
dude old salarymen still play fucking virtua fighter all day. blazblue and guilty gear cabinets are always full. all of the boys play gundam and all of the girls play some anime battleship shit.

dont kid yourself into thinking the japs dont like weebshit.

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>>377763349
You my friend are a definition of a pure manchildren and have this stupid entitlement mentality. Your taste is very limited if you can't find any game to play on a ps4 or xbox one. There are over 400+ games that have been released this gen and you can't even find one game that is fun to play? Its obvious that your too depressed to enjoy playing games anymore on consoles . Go see a psychologist you depressed moron.

>bloodborne
>d44m
>mgsv
>undertale
>persona 5
>nier automata
>overwatch
>botw

hmm im sure noone will remember those hmmmmm

>>377763929
According to co-optimus PS4 has 20 games that support LAN, Xbone has 17. PS4 has 43 games that support splitscreen for two players, 19 that support four players. Xbone has 35 games that support splitscreen for two players, 17 that support four players. There's really not a whole lot.

>>377764259
>Your taste is very limited if you can't find any game to play on a ps4 or xbox one.
Wow, you still don't get it.

You can play 95% of those on PC. This wasn't the case before, older consoles had more exclusive software. That's why these new consoles suck, there's too much overlap and too little exclusive content.

>>377763885
You're just having a conversation with yourself aren't you?
You're intentionally misinterpreting my posts, then pretending I'm some kind of comical villain and acting as if you're some sort of zen master that knows the truths.

Maybe I've just played a lot of action adventure games and great writing doesn't make up for uninspired and bland gameplay

Maybe I've already played 4 Souls games and the idea of a new one doesn't really interest me enough to the point where I would buy an entirely new console to play a 5th (even though I already mentioned previously that I think it looks fun and I'll buy it if I get a PS4 in the future, same with Yakuza 0)

Also, its very rare that JRPGs are actually good and I burned myself out on them forever in the 90s. But yeah, you might have me there, I never said "OH THATS WEEBSHIT", but thinly veiled otaku fanservice isn't a positive for me, so a bunch of giant anime tiddies and panty shots doesn't help me ignore bland gameplay, and sometimes it even makes great games a little less enjoyable because they have these weird fetish pandering art directions tacked on (ie: Etrian Odyssey)

I'm not just discrediting these games because I'm cynical, I'm saying I'm not interested because I've played enough games in my life to know when something isn't going to have deep enough gameplay for me. I guess its great for some people that games are being streamlined and made to "appeal to a wider audience", since more and more people get to play games and have fun.

However, for people like me its really not a benefit. I'm sure execs at Sony are stoked that they're seeing record profits or getting more sales, but for someone like me that has been playing/buying games for over 20 years, less and less games appeal to me or cater to my tastes. I'm not going to start playing and buying games I don't like just because they're new. I feel like as a consumer I should be able to say "I think this looks boring and I don't want to play it"

>>377764378
Lack of splitscreen or LAN =/= lack of local multi. Personally I prefer multi on one full screen. It's more comfy and convenient.

>>377764538
>You can play 95% of those on PC

Where did you get that number from? Consoles are getting massive amount of exclusives. This year for example is constant stream of PlayStation exclusives that are not on PC. I understand why PClowns are so butthurt about and trying to deny reality with threads like this. I think RDR2 not being announced on PC today was direct reason of this thread. It's defense mechanism.

>>377764716
Either way these consoles have less of it, with some notable and big franchises either cutting it or not having it in the first place when it could have easily been there. If games like For Honor, Titanfall or Halo 5 had local play I might have had a reason to buy a console, I have friends that would play these locally.

>>377764259
>You my friend are a definition of a pure manchildren and have this stupid entitlement mentality. Your taste is very limited if you can't find any game to play on a ps4 or xbox one.

PS4 has Bloodborne and Yakuza 0 so far, nothing else really looks that great to me and/or isn't even out yet.

Xbone has Rare Replay which is just a bunch of ports, and I guess I'd be down to play the Gears of War remaster some day, but its not worth buying a console for, I was also looking forward to Scalebound and Crackdown 2, but neither of those are actually happening.

I'm sure there are lots of other games that are available on the consoles that I would like, but if I can already play them on my PC (which is stronger than either console), why would I consider that a selling point? Why would I ever sit down and think "you know what, sure I could play all but 2 of these games on my PC, but I'd much rather spend $400 to get a console that can play them at a worse framerate without mods and a paywall for the internet!"

I have nothing against the PS4 or Xbone, but as of right now, neither of them has enough exclusives for me to want them. The Wii U does, the 3DS does, the PC always has shitloads of exclusive games, and I've even been considering a Vita. The PS4 and Xbone just simply don't have enough exclusives for me to care yet. I'm sure multiplats are awesome if you only get one platform each gen, because in that case you had no other way to play shit like Witcher 3 or Overwatch or whatever anyway. However, for anyone that already has a PC, multiplats are fucking pointless.

>>377764974
>Consoles are getting massive amount of exclusives
We've been over this, PS4 has about 35 full-retail exclusives and Xbone has fucking 7. Consoles are getting fewer exclusives than they used to get.

>>377764974
>This year for example is constant stream of PlayStation exclusives that are not on PC.
I wouldn't call it a "constant stream", but I am glad to see that after 4 years the PS4 is finally starting to get some games. I really don't understand how people weren't more pissed off about the console up until now, aside from multiplats it hasn't had anything

>>377765169
>I really don't understand how people weren't more pissed off about the console up until now
Because they've been conditioned to like it, aggressive marketing sells games now, not actual content. Overwatch was a $60 F2P shooter modeled after mobile games and it made $565 million in 2016 alone, this is where games are headed.

>>377764690.
Oh so you're the, "I'm a true patrician gamer and I see vidya in the same way I see fine wine."

I don't see anyone having that issue. If anything I see the complete opposite. More people are pushing Microsoft to release more varied exclusives in their library. And Nintendo is pushing for the same 3rd party Japanese titles that are present on Sony's platform.

Those are all good things.

>>377765041
Not really, many franchises actually even gets local co op. Resident Evil, Bayonetta, Diablo has local co op only on consoles, Alienation, Little Big Planet, fighting games, sports games. Couch local gameplay is beauty of consoles.

>>377765153
Infamous SS, Disgaea 5, Uncharted 4, Bloodborne, Persona 5, Spiderman, Nioh, GoW, Horizon, RDR2, FFXV, The Last Guardian, Gravity Rush 2. I can't think of such many exclusives in first 4 years of PS3. You are objectively incorrect.

>>377765348
>Oh so you're the, "I'm a true patrician gamer and I see vidya in the same way I see fine wine."
No I'm the "I've played so many games before, I don't want to spend $100 for an 8 hour game that is just kind of a watered down version of games I've played before but with better graphics"

I'm not being a snob, I'm just not going to waste my money on games that don't look that fun.

People that hate Oblivion or Skyrim aren't being snobs, they've just played enough WRPGs that they expected more and were let down, while on the other hand, the people that love Oblivion and Skyrim either haven't played that many WRPGs or one of those two games were one of their first experiences with the genre.

Experience is the biggest factor. I'm sure some kid out there fucking loves Uncharted and thinks its one of the best games ever, but to me its just a kinda clunky platformer thats trying to be like Tomb Raider/Prince of Persia with janky gunplay, but they mask the uninspired and arguably lazy gameplay with awesome writing and really charming characters. I really do think the writing and characters in Uncharted are great too, really charming stuff. However, that doesn't make it fun to play. The game itself is boring, regardless of how much fun the characters are when they chat with each other.
If I wanted to listen to charming people chat, I could just listen to a podcast or watch a movie or some shit, I'm not going to spend $100 to buy a game that isn't fun to play just because it has some charming writing or cool vistas/set pieces.

>>377765672
Most of those aren't exclusives though you knob, and some of them aren't even out yet

>>377765396
Nintendo is always good on local play, but Bayonetta doesn't have it, it has online co-op, which is still neat. The last RE didn't have co-op at all. Diablo III has it but all of Blizzard's other recent games have been online-only. A fighting game without local play wouldn't sell at all, I think that's probably the only genre that's effectively immune to the online-only cancer, but even then games like For Honor wound up being online-only. These consoles just have less local play, and that's bad, because as you said it's the beauty of a console. Wii U was the best one for it and I own one for that reason.

>>377743813
RDR2 won't be on PC. Deal with it and stop getting mad.

>>377765826
Every single one of those are console exclusives. Calm down your asshurt.

>>377743813
So make some then

>>377765672
Disgea 5, Persona 5, RDR2 and FFXV are not exclusive. Spiderman and GoW aren't out yet.

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>>377764538
So console sucks because now to you because devs decided port games to pc to try an earn extra money?
> muh exclusives only matter

It's only pc faggots like you that make these console/platform war threads.

>>377765079
If you already have your pc as your favourite platform of choice then stfu already. Nothing will convince you gaben ass to buy a console. Consoles aren't designed for depressed assholes like you.

>>377765953
They are on PC? Spiderman and GoW are already announced.

>>377765672
>The Last Guardian
>Gravity Rush 2
>Horizon
>Nioh
>Infamous SS
>Uncharted 4
>Bloodborne
>Disgaea 5 - Not Exclusive
>Persona 5 - Not Exclusive
>Spiderman - Not Released
>GoW - Not Released
>RDR2 - Not Released or Exclusive
>FFXV - Not Exclusive

Also the PS3 was fucking awful for exclusives too, around the end of the gen it had a few neat ones, but overall it was another multiplat machine. The biggest selling point was that you could play all of those multiplats if you didn't have a PC, but you also didn't have to pay to play online like the Xbox 360

>>377765079
>The Wii U does, the 3DS does
The Wii-U has a lot of exclusives. But as far as variety its complete fucking dogshit. If you have little interest in Nintendo titles, or are only really interested in Mario or Zelda. The Wii-U has very little to offer. Which is another reason it sold so poorly.

I can buy a PS4 and play whatever I want. And if I have no qualms with playing 3rd party at 30fps, the library ends up looking even more appealing.

The PS4/3DS ended up being the 2 best purchases I've made this generation. I'm completely clueless as to why people shit on the PS4 after it hit its stride this year alone.

>>377766020
Yes, consoles suck now because the reasons to own one are slowly being phased out, such as local multiplayer, ease of use and exclusive software. They didn't suck before because they had both exclusive content and shared lots of games with PC. It just means fewer people will buy the consoles, and sales for 8th gen consoles reflect that

Glad you've finally caught up.

>>377765926
>Every single one of those are console exclusives.

>"console exclusives"
That still doesn't really make for much of a selling point for the PS4 though does it?
True exclusives are really the only thing that matters, just because something isn't on PC doesn't mean I'm going to buy it on PS4.
Why buy Disgea 5 on PS4 when I could get it on Switch, why buy RDR2 on PS4 when I could get it on Xbox One, why get Gravity Rush on PS4 when I could get it on Vita?

Multiplats are neat and they definitely add some value to a console, but the major and most important selling point is true exclusive games that you can't play on any other platform.

>>377766084
>not exclusive

They are all console exclusives. We were talking about console exclusives not single one platform exclusives. They are not on PC. They are console exclusives proving that consoles are getting many exclusives. I can't say this simpler. You are only pretending to be retarded or just falseflagging right?

>>377766020
>Nothing will convince you gaben ass to buy a console. Consoles aren't designed for depressed assholes like you.
But I literally own an NES, SNES, Sega Genesis, Saturn, Dreamcast, N64, a few gamecubes, a few Wii, Wii U, Switch, PS1/2/3, Xbox, Xbox 360 and a shit load of gameboys and some PSPs

I'm normally an idort every gen and have nothing against consoles.
What I'm saying is that a consoles biggest selling point is its exclusives. When a platform doesn't have a decent list of exclusive games that I can't play on anything else, I can't really think of a good reason to buy it.

>>377766242
>That still doesn't really make for much of a selling point for the PS4 though does it?

Yes, they do. I can play them on PS4. Also nice moving goalposts.

>Why buy Disgea 5 on PS4 when I could get it on Switch, why buy RDR2 on PS4 when I could get it on Xbox One, why get Gravity Rush on PS4 when I could get it on Vita?

And why should I buy Vita, Switch and Xbox One when I can play all of them on PS4? Why am I allowed to play games on every platform excluding PS4? Why it makes you so asspain that those games are on PS4?

>>377766130
When the product appeals to fewer people, it sells fewer units. 8th gen will not come anywhere close to the totals of 6th or 7th gen, it may not even pass 5th gen if PS4 doesn't wind up selling 100m+ by itself, which is looking unlikely.

Its fine for people like you who play causally, but if the consoles don't offer enough new content then others will skip them. 6th and 7th gen saw a huge expansion of the industry, but as these new customers flake off and aren't necessarily replaced the hobbyists will still be there and may not be too interested.

>>377766130
>I'm completely clueless as to why people shit on the PS4 after it hit its stride this year alone.
PS4 is probably great if you can't afford /think building a computer is hard. For anyone with a computer it offers nothing though.

>>377766242
Why buy one system when you can buy 5?

Maybe wanna rethink that, champ?

>>377766416
>Why it makes you so asspain that those games are on PS4?
It doesn't and I never said it did, I'm just saying it won't ever make me think "Damn I should get a PS4, I really want to play Dragon Quest builders!"

The Vita has more games that I want to play than the PS4, so I'd probably get that if I wanted to play Gravity Rush

Again, it adds some value for sure, but its not a great selling point.

>>377766553
I don't want PS4 to win and beat Nintendo again. Games count on every system except PS4, now fuck off.

>>377766130
>I'm completely clueless as to why people shit on the PS4 after it hit its stride this year alone.
Because it took over three years and those exclusives may not appeal to everyone?

The benchmark isn't just having [X] number of exclusives at all, its having [X] number an individual will actually want. PS4 has little to choose from, so if you're not interested in some of them there's not much else to pick from as an alternative.

>>377766553
Nah, I made my point and I said what I meant to say.
I don't understand why so many of you are having such a hard time understanding why actual exclusives are a good thing to have, and why not having them is a bad thing for a console.

I've never said multiplats are completely worthless, but they certainly aren't going to make anyone buy a console if they can already play those games on something else.
For a kid with no computer? Yeah its great.
For a dude in his mid20s that has a great computer and shitloads of platforms to play on already? It doesn't really mean anything.

>>377766578
>'m just saying it won't ever make me think "Damn I should get a PS4, I really want to play Dragon Quest builders!"

Good we were not talking about you but about console exclusives overall. No one cares about your special snowflake taste anon.

>>377743813
When people say shit like this I assume they're underage and going through teenage angst.

>>377766782
>No one cares about your special snowflake taste anon.
Then by that logic shouldn't yours go uncared for by everyone else too?

>console exclusives overall.
Yeah, all 100 of them.

>>377766724
>but they certainly aren't going to make anyone buy a console if they can already play those games on something else.

So basically it's not ok to buy PS4 to play Persona 5 but it's ok to buy PS3 to play it? It's not ok to buy PS4 to play Disgaea 5 but it's ok to buy Switch for it. Ok.

>>377766904
>Then by that logic shouldn't yours go uncared for by everyone else too?

Pretty sure I never presented my taste as argument just proved you wrong about consoles getting less exclusives. You have problems with reading comperehension.

>>377766923
>So basically it's not ok to buy PS4 to play Persona 5 but it's ok to buy PS3 to play it?
Why would you buy a second PS3?

If the PS4 were backward compatible that'd be another reason to actually buy one.

>>377767014
>argument
Wasn't an argument, you just assumed it was. stating an opinion is not an argument.

>>377767075
>Why would you buy a second PS3?

Why would you buy a second PS4?

>>377767014
>I like apple pie
>"Wow, fuck you buddy, no one asked for your special snowflake opinion!"
>Well fuck your favorite pie too then, buddy
>"Pretty sure I never presented my taste as an argument."
Oh, the irony.

>>377766242
>Why buy Disgea 5 on PS4 when I could get it on Switch, why buy RDR2 on PS4 when I could get it on Xbox One, why get Gravity Rush on PS4 when I could get it on Vita?
More options are never a bad thing. People complain about exclusives NOT being multiplatform on this board because they can't play them. Then when the argument goes toward the strength of a platfrom. It shifts back to the games being multiplatform as a negative.

Why buy Disgea5 on PS4 when you can get it on Switch? Why buy it on Switch when you can get it on PS4? Maybe better resolution? Better looking sprites? Why buy RDR2 on PS4 when you can get it on Xbox One? Why buy it on Xbox One when you can get it on PS4?

When taking multiplatform into consideration you're argument ends up being circular. Why not buy it on the console you ACTUALLY OWN? Playing the game is the most important. Not complaining that its on another platform.

As for Gravity Rush. I own both the PS Vita version for portability and the remastered for better controls, better resolution etc. When Vita fans complained about GR2 being on PS4 that wasn't an issue for me.

Dragon Quest Xl is going to be on PS4/3DS. There both going to be completely different versions specifically suited for the platform. It wouldn't bother me to buy either, or double dip.

A game being on PS4 is going to prevent me from buying the Switch version anymore than the PS4 version because the most important thing is playing the fucking game. Not circle jerking over which platform owns it.

>>377767140
>consoles are getting less exclusives
>what about those
>well don't count because I don't want getting them on PS4.

Yea, this gen's been pretty barren.
And before some salty faggot calls me old, I was born in 1997, so chances are I'm probably younger than you.
There have been maybe 10 standout games this gen, which is pretty pathetic.

>>377767164
>The only outcome in which buying a PS4 is preferable is one in which you own nothing with which to play games on in the first place, but you can somehow afford a PS4+PSN but not a low-end PC

Right, and its why 8th gen will be the lowest-selling gen since the SNES and Genesis days. It catered to people like you who play casually and don't give a shit while the hobbyists are the ones who ultimately hold the long-term purchasing power.