Leave being the best Persona to me. >phenomenal story that

Reasons why THING is best:

1: This part of THING is best
2: This other part of THING is best
3: I'm an ENORMOUS cocksucking queer

>>377692156
>>377692171
spot the upset p5 faggots

>>377692061
Agreed. I played through FES five times already. Persona 5 was so fucking bad I had to force myself to finish it. I don't even want to touch NG+

yeah... maybe if gameplay isn't the most important part of a game?

Music was shit dont kid yourself

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>challenging difficulty

In Persona 3, knocking down an enemy causes them to lose their turn. Unlike 4 and 5, they can't get back up and immediately attack because getting up itself counts as an action.

This means if you can knock down the enemy, you can take away their turns forever. This makes the game very easy because pretty much only the full moon bosses (which are piss easy) don't have a weakness.

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>>377692061

Persona 4 was hands down the best.

>>377692621
Shhhh! Let OP have his little strawman, all he can do is come to 4chins to make shitposting threads about Persona 3 cause everyone else and their dog loves Persona 5 more.

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>>377692061
Persona 5 had better dungeons and the confidants were more rewarding. But in terms of atmosphere, story, character development, yeah I agree P3 was the best.

Yukari and Junpei were high school students who actually acted like high school students. Junpei is like the superior version of Yosuke and Ryuji (also has the drunk dad, dead girl, pervy behavior) but noticeably changes more and gets over his beef with the mc. And says funnier shit than Yosuke/Ryuji. Yukari went from not trusting boys because of her mother to finally being honest about her feelings about the protag although to an apocalyptic degree. She slapped the fuck out of Mitsuru and made her stop being emo about the thing that wasn't even her fault.

Ken and Shinji despite not having much screentime had a better dilemma than anyone in P5. Koromaru is less annoying than the cat that restricts your gameplay. Mitsuru and Akihiko were much better than Makoto and Yusuke. Mitsuru/Aki still felt like the strong ones without having to sacrifice personality for it. They still managed to be fun and not be boring 95% of the time unlike their P5 counterparts. Although this may be because the character interactions were just so much better. Elizabeth > twins, the dorm > hipster coffee shop, Strega > Shidou, I can go on and on.


The only character in P5 who actually changes and acts differently from when you meet her is Futaba and she can't even fight with you during battle. The music in P5 is absolute blandness aside from Life Will Change and Rivers in the Desert. Only fedora tipping redditors pretend that ost was good. Persona 3 was a much more satisfying and memorable experience than P5. And I don't even think P3 is all that amazing, P5 was just trash in comparison.

>>377692061
Good cast, tartarus is shit tho
Challenging in FES, less on Portable

>>377692639
Finished it two days ago, got attached to the cast as well, I do think that the interactions between the members both in P3 and P4 are pretty enjoyable.

Now I need to play P5, but don't have a PS3/4

>>377692061
5 was honestly the worse for me. I even liked p4 more

>>377693041
>Finished it two days ago, got attached to the cast as well, I do think that the interactions between the members both in P3 and P4 are pretty enjoyable.
Persona 4 is also the best gameplay wise. If you gonna start playing Persona 5, start it on Merciless difficulty, friendly advice.

>>377692571
yeah man, Mass Destruction, Battle for Everyone's Souls, Joy, Memories of You, Unavoidable Battle, Burn My Dread, Heartful Cry, Wiping All Out, Time compared to the forgettable songs of P5.

>>377692061
>Personna 3
>Phenomal story
No. It's basically "nothing happen for hours and then every important shit takes place in 5 minutes"

>Great setting
It's some random ass japanese town with generic anime japanese monsters who fight against generic anime high schooler with magical power

>Challenging

Maybe if you're retarded.

>ITT you're only allowed to like one thing
Pathetic, all of you.

>>377692919
agreed.

>>377692639
People like to bash 4 for some reason but it was still more entertaining than 5. Only thing 5 has over 4 is edginess

>>377692919
/thread

Fuck p5 and all the normiefags it attracted from tumblr and reddit

>>377693120
Yeah, P4 gameplay was a huge improvement from P3 those shuffle times with the arcana cards saved me a lot of time for level up/upgrade some skills

Actually, I tend to do the second most hard option of the games since most of the times, exp are halved in the hardest mode (and grinding can be pretty annoying for me), but it'll be more challenging so I should give it a try.

>>377692621
>>377692738
all Persona games are easy as fuck.

Persona 5 even more so since you can swap out party members, the navigator can literally put you in hold up mode at the start or protect you from fatal attacks, guns, you can end the battle in other ways other than killing the enemy, etc.

Don't know what difficulty has anything to do with anything, all of Persona is babby-tier easy mode

ITT: Nostalgia infects Purseowner discussion
Enjoy your new fanbase, fags.

>>377692919

I still don't understand how people can praise P5 music.
Just listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhQILQgkClo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT2AAfBPtoQ
and then compare it to Yaldabaoth OST, so fucking bland.

>>377693685
ITT P5fags SEETHING

>>377693685
>nostalgia

But I played P4 before P2 and I liked P2 more. I also played SMT4 before Nocturne and I liked Nocturne better. Nostalgia is the lamest and weakest strawman there is

>>377693690
>cherrypicking

>>377692061

But P2 did all of that better though. Plus, 3 was dragged down by removing party control until either re-release.

>>377693690
Yaldy theme being meh doesn't change the fact that rest of the ost is amazing.

>>377694098

It's memorable but I wouldn't go as far to say amazing. The vocal tracks do not hold up well.

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>>377692621
hello there, we resist all elements and have no weaknesses, good luck!

>>377694183
The Vocals are better than any of the vocals in 3 or 4. Lotus Juice only gets a pass for memes.

>>377694283

I can't really agree with that. I found the tracks in 4 be much more solid overall, followed by 5, and then 3.

I haven't played P5 yet, is it true that it is really easy?

>>377694050
>P2
>challenging

>>377694504
It's true. Normal feels like Easy and Hard feels like Normal.

>>377694504

You can get a game-breaking demon super early.

>>377694527

IS, I'll give you up until Nazi shenanigans but EP had a fair curve to it.

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Ah the classic 4chan virgin conundrum.
>This game/series is SO GOOD why is it selling well? Fucking normies!
>Mainstream start to take notice of the series and it's latest installment.
>F-fuck that game the first game/previous game that didn't sell well is miles better than that normie bait h-haha
>Examples see Nier Automata, LoH Trails of Cold Steel, Persona 4/5, SMT IV/Apocalypse, etc.
/v/irgins and like minded inscure "fans" of niche games like to brag about their "superior taste" and how they were there first and when the next game in the series becomes successful they hate it and start kicking and screeming like the attention whores they are.
Grow up fattso and take a shower, get a job and be a man.

>>377694504
>is this opinion that /v/ is saying real?
no
this has literally never been the case

>>377692621
Also means if an enemy ever gets a turn for some reason you're fucked. Missing also knocks you down. Overall more ways for RNG to fuck you over.
Made worse in the answer where every boss with a weakness has increased chance to evade it.

>>377694754
nice projection. still doesn't address the fact that p5 is quite shit compared to p3

back to plebbit now

>>377694231
>have no weaknesses

Was your image supposed to be ironic? Because I see some Tentarafoo vulnerability.

P3 distributed screentime much better. We get a core group right from the start. Akihiko and Mitsuru get character development long before they're playable. Fuka and Aigis are the only important newcomers. The game clearly sets them apart from side characters like Ken, Shinjiro and Koromaru.

Most P5 characters completely vanish after their arc. Ann/Ryuji/Yusuke do nothing once Makoto joins. Makoto and Futaba magically progress the plot with their mary sue abilites.

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I would disagree. P3 gets good at the end, but it's a complete slog up to that point. If it didn't have as strong an end as it does it wouldn't even be worth playing, which is a pretty bad sign in a game of its length. The characters are bland, they tie into the story well and they all fit their arcanas, butt their actual personalities are forgettable and not very likable. I like what they tried to do with the dungeon crawling, but it did not work out at all, the combat isn't enjoyable and Tartarus is fucking awful. The music is good, Junpei is great even if the cast on the whole is forgettable and the atmosphere is well set, especially towards the end, but it's still so flawed that I would have to call it one of the worst MegaTen games. The cast was also distributed better in P3, I should mention.

>>377694504
It's as easy as 3 and 4, so yes.

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>>377694504
A lot of people use the flu reaper exploit and complain about the difficulty, too.

I honestly wish that wasn't in the game.
The flu season shouldn't work on the reaper. It makes level grinding far too easy and most people are bad at temptation.

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>>377692061
>Story kicks in only at the last 20% of the game
>No social links with male party members at all
>If you've got the FES version the only death with any meaning is randomly undone
>If you've got the FES version then the mostly satisfying ending is undone
>Instead it's a series of ridiculous retcons and garbage filler
>And MC becomes a Door

Yu got the World Arcana and stopped the baddie.

Joker got the World Arcana and shot the baddie in the face.

Universe Arcana seems like a pile of shit tbqh fampai.

>>377697783
You're retarded

>>377694504

It's no easier than 3 or 4.

There's more stuff that'll fuck you over, but there's plenty of things you can do to fuck enemies over as well. It's fairly decently balanced I think.

>>377692061
God Persona 3 was such garbage.

>>377697867
>I can't refute his clearly correct points so I'll insult him

P3babbies

>>377697995
>clearly correct
lol kill yourself retard

>>377692061
this is the worst Persona 3 picture I've ever seen

>>377696178
>strong end
I'm in January and lost the will to play. There's literally nothing to do right now besides sleep and I don't even feel like doing that since Nyx is such an unsatisfying fight

>>377692061
>>phenomenal story that revolves around inner turmoils and overcoming them with amazingly fleshed out characters
>>music is GOAT
>>great setting and atmosphere
>>challenging difficulty

So when are you going to post about the game you've posted >pic related to?

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>>377698043
>Being this mad

Topkek

>>377698221
>being this mad
kill yourself retard

>>377693690
>I still don't understand how people can praise P5 music.
Because people like different types of music. I cant stand p4's soundtrack personally, but thats why its called a subjective opinion.

Really comparing the persona ost's is the most asinine fucking thing you can do.

>>377697783
Joker got world arcana after he headshot yaldy

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>>377698058
What about now?

>>377698454

That's when it was given to him. He already had it when the cheers of the world and his supporters gave him the strength to break the chains that bound him.

Either way, people with World Arcana seem to get fused into furniture a lot less than people with Universe Arcana.

>>377694504
The only boss that killed me was the second one, and only because I rushed straight to him.

>>377698602
You do know Universe and World are the exact same arcana just under different names right?

Why can't people like any of these games without people assuming that you hate every other game in the series now?

>>377692061
>The only downside is not being able to control your entire party with the exception of P3P.

But that's a huge downside. Fuck not being able to control my team. I'm not playing a fucking MMO here.

>>377695353
Not an argument.

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>>377698649

>>377693690
Liking Genesisis a fucking meme, its around the same level as Yaldy, The almighty shits all over both tho.

>>377698645

Except they have explicitly different designs and exist as separate Arcana within the same game

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>>377692919
>The music in P5 is absolute blandness

I could understand you saying that you prefer P3/4's OST over P5, but to say that the whole thing was shit apart from two songs is a bullshit lie.

Agree with you on every other point you made though.

>>377699581
The universe arcana is just the crowley deck equivalent of the world. World was added into FES but its still the same damn arcana representing the same damn things. Just like how Aeon is the crowley deck equivalent of judgement.

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>>377692061
>phenomenal story
but with horrible pacing

>that revolves around inner turmoils and overcoming them with amazingly fleshed out characters
P4 did that way better.

>music is GOAT
*battle* music is GOAT, and no more; the rest is utter dogshit

>great setting and atmosphere
that's the only thing you actually got right

>challenging difficulty
No shit sherlock! By giving you retarded allies you can't control IN A FUCKING TURN BASED GAME!!!

>Persona 5 is so fucking shit in comparison.
But that's mathematically not possible since P5 is way better than P4 which, in turn, is way better than P3

>The only downside is not being able to control your entire party
"only" downside is having no gameplay at all! wow! What a great "game"!

>>377698083
It has a strong atmosphere,you finally get to the top of Tartarus, Nyx is pretty cool and the ending is very touching.That's a lot better than the rest of the game, I'd say.

>>377700098
>P4
>fleshed out characters

>>377700098
3 gave us Mitsuru so its automatically better than 4.

>>377700098
That retarded king of the castle shit was the dumbest edgiest shit i've ever seen in Persona and it was only 3 hours into the game.

>>377700432
3=5>>>>shit>>>4
Prove me wrong.

>Persona 3
>procedural generation is its entire gameplay

>Persona 5
>detailed, hand-crafted dungeons that can't be cleared in one night unless you've advanced certain confidants to a certain point

>>377699893
It's still a different card in the Persona universe. Igor says he never has seen a guest with the universe arcana before Makoto.

>>377692919
The fact that the abomination of a dungeon called Tartarus exists along with its shitty ass music puts P3 lower than P5 and P4.

>>377700940
So did P3 receive both world and universe arcana, or just universe=world arcana?
I only played P1 and half P3

>>377700940
But they represent the exact same damn thing even in the game, its world with a different coat of paint. Igor's a fucking retard, I thought the dude was meant to know all about this shit? What does he do all day in that room?

>>377701224
Universe and world are different. Yu and Potter-kun get World, Makoto gets the universe

>>377701231
Dude they are literally different in the Persona universe

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Universe_Arcana

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/The_World_Arcana
>Not to be confused with The Universe Arcana

>>377692919

You can't play the game of spot the faggot if you're being obvious.

>>377701231
That's like saying strength and hunger are the same arcana

>>377701704
>The Universe Arcana is commonly associated with Social Links, where its power is based upon the Protagonist's bonds with others.
>The World Arcana is commonly associated with Social Links, where its power is based upon the protagonist's bonds with others.
Literally the same thing under a different name

>>377701894
No Hunger at least has a different meaning compared to the arcana its replacing. Hunger is losing control while strength is self control.

>>377701704
Well how do you know it was different if he only receive universe arcana?
Even the wiki only specified it as "replacing the world arcana", like isn't that literally the same thing?

If he got World THEN Universe arcana, I'd believe you, but he only got one.

I don't understand the whole "x game is better than this one" mentality. They're all great games.

>>377692061
>challenging difficulty

Literally the easiest Persona game ever made, only slight challenge involved with it is that the party ai is horrendously retarded, P3P being an absolute breeze proves this.
Also, retarded ai is not grounds for a positive when it comes to game difficulty.

>>377702138
OP doesn't like the new game is more popular than the old ones. You'll know this if you've been in P5 thread.

>>377702067
>tells the protagonist that it symbolizes a new beginning or the ultimate end
>World Arcana is a representation of the world's totality, the symbol of fulfillment, wholeness, and harmony
Notice how Elizabeth is the sole welder of the world. If they weren't different they would have the same design. Makoto needed the universe to take down Nyx. If he just had world he would have been BTFO.

>>377702083
You don't need one card to get another card

>>377702138
He might have just wanted a P3 thread with all this persona talk. I know that's what I've been wanting since I just can't get enough of this shit, only played it recently.

>>377692061
I thought P5 was better until December when the time limit kicked in. It's like they forgot there are still 3-4 months left in the year.

P3 will always be better for that alone

I can see why people would prefer the tone and aesthetic of P3 over the sequels but tartarus is an absolute drag to play through. Personally I didn't like the cast as much as I did in the following games, but there are some cool persona designs, Hermes especially.
The additionally non canon MC is a fun addition too.

>>377702531
Well he could get one if he doesn't depend on bait and shit talking the other games.

>>377692061
P3 story is just a rehash of P1

Also P2 is has the best story

>>377702489
>>tells the protagonist that it symbolizes a new beginning or the ultimate end
But thats just death with adjectives. Eh fuck it whatever, its too late to be having this type of autistic shitfit.

>>377702660
No, P2: IS has best story. EP can die in a fire for smacking Maya with the protag stick

>>377702709
He doesn't know japs version used the same words, it just that the localization is different.
But don't tell that to him, he want to think P3 MC is super special.

>>377702709
Different cards dude.

>>377702869
Prove it

>>377692061
>amazingly fleshed out characters

hoo boy.

I agree that some characters are more in depth since they don't have social links, but the team never felt close. They were just "dorm friends", unlike the scooby doo gang or the Phantom Thieves

>>377702774

Whoa now. Maya may not be team mom anymore but Other Side Tatsuya was fucking great.

>>377702869
[Citation needed]

>>377702653
Maybe not, since all the other P3 threads I've seen in the past few weeks died after a few posts. Though this isn't the best way to get people talking it at least has people discussing it's positives and negatives and doesn't even have any waifufagging.

>>377702918
>>377702957
I'm not the one who need it. You can call me a liar, but that won't change what's in the game.

P3 feels like a prototype to me in every sense. I'm glad it exists, because otherwise we wouldn't have the masterpieces that are P4 and P5, but man it really sucks playing it today. Beat it in March and I didn't enjoy it much at all.

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>just spent a good solid hour fusing Trumpeter, Alice, Thor and Rapheal
Man I love persona games but they really gotta do something about these fusion recipes. It's like to fuse 1 persona I need to buy and fuse 6 others in order to get the shit I want.

>muh death = depth
>muh BABBYBABBYBABBY

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>>377703049
>I don't need to back any of my claims!
>I'm right and you're wrong!!

>>377703206
P3 handled its theme a lot better than P4, though a lot of P4's problems can be chalked up to it being rushed out.

>There are people who seriously think that Door-kun is stronger than Joker
>muh universe arcana
All door did was job against death because he and his fag friends couldn't change the world.

>>377703435
Gotta make sure P3 is still relevant anon. What better ways to achieved that other than glorifying HOW HE ACCEPTED DEATH, BEST MC OF ALL FRANCHISE?

>>377703718
He wasnt that bad, I copied his mp3 setup years ago, havent regretted it.

>>377703718
Funny because every single one of them denies his death in the answer, pretty much losing the moral behind the story. The point of the death arcana is change for something new, something which was lost on the cast and on rabid fan autists of this game

>>377703840
>>377703824
I'm not the one saying this, I'm just copying what that P3 posters always post.

>>377703435
Joker is a pansy. Yu kills the goddess of Japan, Makoto seals death itself. Joker kills some false God and doesn't use the world against him becuase Satanael is fool. Yaldabaoth was a joke, even Naoya could kill him.

P3 has this track so it is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzRqtW1C0Zo

>>377704043
There's still the true end DLC left

>>377704043
Joker took on two Ganeshas, three Rangdas and Thor. That's some demi-fiend shit there.

>>377704043
Yu doesnt kill her though. Joker is the only guy who's ever killed a god. Izanami just backs off and promises not to interfere with humans anymore.

>>377704043
>Seals death
>Death is still happening occasionally
He literally died for nothing.

>>377704043
Yaldy kicked Igor and velvet room attendant asses and Joker didn't even need World arcana to kill him like other two faggots. Joker>Door-kun>>>>>Yu

>>377704267
Every MC can so that because the wild card is broken.

>>377704293
It wasn't literal death but the manifestation of humanity's Nihilism was temporarily destroyed, it was more about buying time to prevent humans from calling Nyx.

>>377693297
>I didn't play the game, the post!

>>377704043
>Makoto seals death
>people are still dying
>people still want to die
Somewhere.... There's a contradiction here.

The point of Satanael being a Fool is that its a culmination of Joker's power. It pretty much means that he doesn't entirely need the world's power to save the game unlike the other two cucks

>tfw a P6 won't have Igor anymore

>>377704370
Yeah but that was never proven since they never fight demons. And never solo them canonically.

>>377704550
I wonder if they'll finally bring Phily back. Its been a while since someones punched that asshole.

>>377704370
P3-4 teams fight only masked shadows, which are weaker than real deal, and they still struggle against them as whole team

>>377704550
Door-kun will be the new Ignor. The question is what type the attendants will be? Autism girl, mature woman, loli dom already taken, what next?
An oldman?

>>377703170
Because those are the best ones.

>>377694050
people only remember P2 for the meme hitler boss fight and nothing else, so it does not count for anything

>>377704575
>demons
Shadows. Also If the other MC's can't solo a bunch of fodder enemies than they're all weaker than Goro. Makoto says that they needed to fight as a group to beat Goro but we know that's a complete lie because of how broke the wild card is.

>>377692061
>phenomenal story that revolves around inner turmoils and overcoming them with amazingly fleshed out characters
Story is fucking verage by SMT standards and characters are fucking flat as fuck with the exception of Junpei and Aigis. Most of the fucking development the other characters have is just one fucking scene of I'll become stronger and that's it.
>music is GOAT
P4 and P5 have also great music
>great setting and atmosphere
Atmosphere is nice but setting is quite boring, Inaba and Tokyo are better
>challenging difficulty
P3P is the easiest of them all and both vanilla and FES are more difficult due to not being able to control your party.

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For someone that is bad at persona,
I had to play 5 on safe is p3p the best way to experience 3? What are the major downsides I'm missing out on (other than The Answer)?

>>377705048
The scenes where people talk are more VN style. But you do get to play as femdoor and engage in some sweet, sweet /ss/ so it all evens out in the end.

>>377704976
Read again, I'm talking about p3/p4.

>>377693906
I just started Nocturne and it is already showing the areas that it beats the persona series. The combat requires more thought and the dialogue is way more interesting. But losing the high school sim feel is a little sad to me personally, and using p2's town travel system is horrendous.

I don't get contrarian fags about which smt has to be the best they're all good with flaws.

>>377705139
VN scenes are fine. Being able to fuck Theodore and Akihiko and Ken is a big plus.

>>377705048
>is p3p the best way to experience 3?
Absolutely not, it removes a ton of variety in gameplay and shows the story in a much less detailed way.
Get FES THEN P3P

>>377705048
Compare yourself

PSP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5-aoMf7sgw

PS2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6SgC9-Ez3I

>>377705139
Not for me. The scenes in regular are the only thing that breaks the monotony of that damn game. Between vn text and tartarus I couldn't find much enjoyment.

>>377694629

>unlock narcissus in p4
>fuse the jack frost from the special fuse day on along with a leveled up obyarion
>wow i resist everything!!!
>game has skill lvl up
>get to rise's dungeon now you null phys and fire too

this is in every persona

>>377706154
couldn't you get Victory Cry really early in P4?

>>377703297
I don't think anyone would dispute that, even the devs admitted they fucked up with the theme in P4, which is why they made sure not to do that with P5. But nobody says they like P4 because of how it handles it themes, they like it for the visual novel elements, they only want to feel good with virtual friends in a comfortable atmosphere. Plus, their beloved waifu Chee only exists in P4.

>>377692061
Spot that ass blasted P3 fag

>>377706980
I liked P4. Admittedly it was my first smt game, and while I agree it's pretty weak compared it's predecessors and successors I'd still say it's a good game with a good story. The waifu elements of the game I could never get invested in because the girls just seemed like teenagers girls as opposed to young women

>>377708259
Honestly I felt like the entire cast with the exception of Yu were just kids. This didn't bother me though, after all they're in high school. They are kids, and the game kinda reminded of simpler times where kids ran around having fun and wacky adventures while just being kids. Kind of like South Park. Contrast that with P3, and it felt like everyone there was already an adult due to the hardships they have encountered. Neither of them are bad mind you.

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>>377694754
This desu, I'm glad Persona has gotten some more popularity, since I feel like people always talk about how much they like 4 yet the ps2 version didn't even crack one million units globally. P3 and P4 are great low budget games that no one expected to be so good when they were released but there are aspects that definitely could be improved and I hope with a little more traction globally future games will improve even further.

>>377708259
I like it too, more than P3 even, but it is enjoyable for very shallow reasons.