Looking back, was the Diablo 3 RMAH really that bad? Why did

Go away, Blizzard.

Absolutely nothing was wrong with it. It's the same shit as the steam community market but because it was Blizzard, people had the shitpost about it

It was a nightmare and that's all I'm gonna say.

Kill yourself, my man.

>>377664753
>same shit
Nothing in the Steam Community Market gives you in-game power. Everything is visual.
>Inb4 Strange and whatever other modifier types of weapons in TF2
You can get their non-special variants readily enough by just playing the game.

In comparison, D3 had its "actually good" loot rates gutted horribly so as to not make everything on the RMAH stupid cheap so they make more money.
Valve didn't/doesn't do this.

>>377664386
>Looking back, was the Diablo 3 RMAH really that bad?

Yes

Why did it cause such a stir?

It took all the fun out of playing Diablo. The auction house in general killed the enjoyment by simplifying trading too much making top-tier gear constantly accessible with what resources you'd already found. In a loot finding character building ARPG like the Diablo franchise, it makes it boring as hell.

That alone might not have completely murdered it in the eyes of long time fans, but the streamlined gear at launch where the only thing that mattered was DPS and nothing else too all variation and fun out of designing a build.

Throw in on top of that being able to swap out skills whenever you want without ever developing your character permanently a certain way... and you get a shitty ARPG experience.

I spent 1,000s of hours on Diablo 1 and 2. The third was really bad at launch. Even the lore rape was awful.

These days I just pretend Path of Exile is Diablo 3 since it's pretty much what it should have been now.

>>377664386
because blizzard got a cut of every transaction and they designed the game around getting you to sell your shit, 90% of the drops you got you couldn't use.

>>377665027
But no one forced you to use the auction house

>>377665027
>now
Path of Trading and buy more stash tabs has its own bevy of problems that really keep it from being a good successor as well.

>>377665085
I had a couple friends who treated the game as a full-time job and only made $750-$1500 for themselves. But, was it really worth giving Blizzard more money? Never, in my book.

>>377664753
this
The only reason it got shit was because of communists getting triggered.

>>377665671
Could you even withdraw that money? I thought you could only use it as blizzard account balance or some shit, which made it even worse

>>377665264
The game balance did. It was not possible to complete the game at all difficulties without near ideal gear.

To make people use the AH, the drop rate for high end gear was reduced to the point that it could take weeks of grinding to get items you needed because most the drops were random, so even when you got a good drop, it probably would be shit for your class. This forced you to sell the items you found to buy gear someone else found.

Acti-Blizz would get a cut of each transaction

>>377665910
It went straight into your paypal

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>>377665780
stop exaggerating things

>>377664386
The entire game at that time was tuned for RMAH. Before released, they released videos and bragged about how difficult the game will be since D2 players have been min maxing the shit out of everything for the past decade plus so Blizzard wanted to make things so difficult that it was unreasonable. So when you hit that brick wall, you're going to want to rely on the auction house to overcome that steep difficulty curve (lol), but if you really wanted instant gratification, you do RMAH. Blizzard was hoping players (D2 coke heads) will grind the shit out of the game and sell a lot on RMAH in hopes to make their $60 back or make a living out of it, and Blizzard would get a cut out of it like how Valve gets a money flow out of Steam marketplace. Everything about Diablo III was hilariously bad and broken. The drop rates were abysmal. The stats of the "good" drops were abysmal. So what are you going to do? Go on the auction house, filter to the item type you want, and pick the mods you want to see, press search, and either bid on the cheapest/best one or buy it out. There was no gameplay.

Can't believe I forgot the name of the asshole who fucked up the best franchise ever and gave the fans a middle finger for being mad

what was it again?

>>377666273
Jay "Fuck That Loser" Wilson

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Game was shit, community decided to put the blame in RMAH as the boogeyman ruining D3.

When in fact the entire game was shit, since the new dev team didn't get the basic on how to do a skinner's box

>>377664386
It was bad because it affected drop rates to drive dollars into the auction house.

Fuck that garbage.

>>377666136
varge is a piece of garbage

>>377666394
yeah fuck that guy

hope his hole family gets cancer and he survives

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>>377666498
>varge

>>377665008
LOL

>>377666446
Thats also true. The game has never been good. Patch after patch the game proves more and more to be a weak comparison to D2 and D1.

>>377666518
>...leaving the Diablo 3 team to work on Project Titan, the canceled MMO that eventually morphed into Overwatch. He also has an “Additional Design” credit on the World of Warcraft expansion Warlords of Draenor.
Anyone want to guess what all of those games before Overwatch have in common?

>>377666949
when did Blizzard lose their shit

they sit on the fact that they once were a quality company

they probably think they still are

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>>377664386
Yes because they admitted they toned the drop chances with the auction house in mind.

It was no longer about the game it was about finding a way to milk players. Since they haven't been able to find a way to do so they abandoned D3.

>>377666480
This. Was lame as fuck to get int or dex gear nonstop on a str character. Not to mention the rolls were horseshit, even on most legendaries.

>>377667175
It was a gradual downward slope from when they got involved with Activision which might have been around WOTLK.

>>377664753
>>377665780
Even if you both were right that valve does the same, you'd be making the argument that because one company did something wrong another one should be able to do the same without repercussion.

>>377665264
Yes they did, with the absurdly low drop chances fr good stats.

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>>377666273
>>377666394
>>377666518
>>377666949
>diablo 3 bigest problem right now is how sets and ancient items that give massive damage bonus decide the possible viable builds
>this was HIS idea as well
I don't wish bad unto people but I cannot bear the idea of that fucker touching anything on this industry again.

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>>377667480
You clearly have a hate boner for Valve. Noone is arguing that Valve isn't champions at making money off its users. But selling cosmetic hats is a whole different ball game from selling gear with stats that affected the power of your character.

Participation in the RMAH was mandatory to actually play D3. Blizzard just wanted to make a few billion before they patched it to the fucking mess it is today.

>>377667802
He quit Blizzard and retired from videogames in June 2016 I believe and went back to writing.

http://www.pcgamer.com/jay-wilson-former-diablo-3-game-director-is-leaving-blizzard/

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>>377667948
>no hard feelings guise

>>377667925
I was agreeing with you you dipshit, lrn2read.

Besides Volvo allows users to trade items from direct games like spiral knights ant whatnot that are outright improvements, still read that post again.

>>377668036
>>377667948

Red Herring, Blizzard is actually the villain of gaming.

Overwatch sucks.

>>377668408
I don't remember saying Overwatch ruled anywhere

I agree Blizzard is EA kind of evil now though but less obvious