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So i got ending E. Was that really it? Just the pods talking

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So i got ending E. Was that really it? Just the pods talking and the three androids lying there? Why were people hyping this up like it has never been done before? Fucking underwhelming.
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Sorry there weren't enough explosions for you
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>>377625808
lame as fuck. shit game
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kill yourself
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>>377627192
>MUH "DEEP" ENDING WAS SO COOL R-RIGHT
go stab yourself
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>>377624871
You should be a critic kid ,ya got talent.
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>>377624871

NONSTOP ROBOT /SS/ ACTION
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>>377624871
im playing C/D right now (third continue basically), and im getting so fucking bored with the 9S "hacking" shit. it's so tedious. is the ending even worth it? the combat in this game is so fucking bad it's not even funny desu.
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>>377624871
That's some deep analysis, anon.
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>>377627327
The ending wasnt meant to be deep. It was just a fucking ending.
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the ending was fine

the best parts of the game were the amusement park route B and the forest kingdom route B
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>>377627596
Adam and eve part in B too
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>>377627514
I mean, dont get me wrong, I really like the character designs and the music (Weight of the World is the best OST since Sins of the Father), but the gameplay itself is just so repetitive. As 2B or A2 you just mash, mash, mash and with 9S it's the damn hacking shit all the time. the weapons dont seem to change anything for any of the characters either, it stays the same mashy shit.

guess it's my fault for expecting MGR/DMC combat and not realising it's a straight up RPG.
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>>377627514
the ending was stupid. the pods achieve consciousness or whatever, and they rebuilt the androids. the cycle happens again. basically everything was just pointless and stupid as fuck. i wanted to break the disc because of how underwhelming the ending was when everybody was hyping it

>COMING INTO A THREAD WITHOUT GETTING ENDING E
>ENDING E HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE
>BLAH BLAH
fuck you
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>>377624871
most of /v/ thinks that the story from monster girl quest is deep and revolutionary
it's your fault for taking people serious here
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>>377624871

>I'm a pirate who watched it on youtube
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CAUSE WE'RE GONNA SHOUT IT LOUD
EVEN IF OUR WORDS SEEM MEANINGLESS
IT'S LIKE WE'RE CARRYING THE WEIGHT OF THE WORLD
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>>377628238
This, there has never been a deep or interesting story in the history of video games.
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Every single time a game comes out on PC it gets shitposted to oblivion.
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Best girl.
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>>377628598

Every single time you come on /v/ it is shitposting several games and even not-games into oblivion because thats all nu-/v/ can do, shitpost, regardless of everything else.
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>>377628598
Sometimes it even gets shitposted to morrowind
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>>377628458
I WISH THAT SOME WAY, SOME HOW
THAT I COULD SAVE EVERY ONE OF US
BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT I'M ONLY ONE GIRL
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>>377624871
>So i got ending E. Was that really it? Just the pods talking and the three androids lying there? Why were people hyping this up like it has never been done before? Fucking underwhelming.
you are qualified to write kotaku articles. please contact us @ [email protected]
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>>377628458
>english version
>not the original one where the singer starts crying during the last chorus
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>>377628743
not an argument.
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>>377627758
i'm sorry that you're dead inside
maybe a mental health professional can help you.
lashing out at videogames can't be good for you
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>>377628656
No, it's most definitely when a game hits PC.

I watched it happen with Dark Souls and it most definitely happened with Automata.

Both games, confined to consoles mean less of the absolute fucking morons the PC playerbase seems to consist of never gets their hands on it.

Automata threads were fine before the PC release, and even better before it was announced for Steam.
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>>377628963
Now this is a prime example of confirmation bias.
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>>377624871
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>>377628931
but it was an insult ;)
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>>377629006
>I'm only 15
Fuck off underage.
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>>377629056
not an insult
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>>377629056
not an argument.

>>377629006
portedre
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>>377624871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWueKMuEETE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehM1m5-TG5g
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>>377629070
Anon are you autistic
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>>377629116
tl;dw
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The only androids we see in the entire game are a lackluster refugee camp and Yorha, which was a psy-op from God knows who. How the fuck were they fighting a war against the Machines?

Who made Yorha and what was its true purpose? Don't tell me you believe that "keeping morale high" bullshit at face value.
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>>377629251
Stop posting in my thread.
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>>377624871
What is now canon?

200Terabyte of 2B Porn sending to the Moon or did the ark colapse?
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>>377629304
Play the game again and you won't be asking these questions.
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>>377629447
Ending E is canon.
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>>377629304
>Who made Yorha and what was its true purpose?
nothing. yorha was created to give androids a purpose to keep serving humanity. humanity was dead long ago. everything was pointless and this game is garbage
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I love JRPGs, but this game was a pretty big disappointment. I can't believe it got so much hype while actual good JRPGs continue to fly under the radar and only sell niche amounts of copies.

I will never understand why shit games are the ones that make it.
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>>377629618
You didn't play the game.
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>>377628963
Why are you pretending some dumb fucking button masher is intellectual?
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>>377629660
yep. played through it all. the war was pointless. everything was pointless.

the androids believed they needed a purpose to keep fighting. that purpose was the conflict. the game tries to teach the player to stop the constant cycle of destruction with human nature. there was nothing else. shit game that thinks its deep
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>>377629958
Yup, if that's the message you got out of it then you either didn't finish the game or you weren't paying attention.
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>>377629447
C to E
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>>377629638
t.velvet
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>>377630035
>HUR DUR WASNT PAYING ATTENTION
HAHAHAHA.
>he thinks its TOO DEEP
>the three androids now have gained their own will, wow so deep 4 me! they dont need conflict anymore!
maybe you need to pay attention, seeing as how you have no other comment besides "hu didnt play it xD" your game is SHIT.
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>>377628520
Chrono trigger/cross
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@377630250
You aren't even trying to hide your bait anymore.
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>>377630264
Hipster indieshit is neither deep or interesting.
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>>377630035
look, the game was pretty damn good, but can we please stop pretend that the story was some deep masterpiece?
it's a pretty straightforward babby's first grasp of existentialism
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>>377628652
she needs more art though
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>>377630469
Existentialism isn't the only theme being explored in the game. Play it again and pay attention.
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>>377630469
so an ocean compared to vidya stories
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>>377630603
>>377630346
>p-play it again
there was literally nothing else worthy of noting. that was the entire game. the ENTIRE purpose of the game i just described.
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>>377629304
That is its true purpose, it's like a theodicy around fake humanity, because that's what androids were programmed to serve.

>>377629513
It's not in the game. The purpose is, but I had the same feeling after I finished the game, that there had to be a purpose behind the purpose.

I thought it was that the machine life-forms did it so they could have an enemy, but no it's actually just on the tin.
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>>377630603
existentialism is game's main theme
i'm not gonna play it again since i've done everything that was to be done in the game
seriously, i can't understand why people consider this to be deep

entertaining? definitely
well executed? sure
engaging? yeah
deep? not really
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>>377630732
So it was literally 2deep4u.
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>>377630786
I don't know if I'd even call it well executed. Game basically just spelled it out for you in Ending E in a way that wasn't really contextualized within the story, to have a bit of fun.
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>>377628668
Fuck you for this post and fuck me for laughing.
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>>377630381
How is Chrono Trigger indie or hipster? are you under 20 by some chance?
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>>377631253
Take your indie retro 8 bit gayme and fuck off
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>>377630786
>its not deep!
>explain the ending for me
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>>377631073
at that point, if you hadn't figured it out, you deserve being spoonfed like that
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>programmed to serve humanity
>killing the last human on earth: Emil
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>>377631303
Again it isn't indie. It's a big budget game from a big company, made by the company All-star team that was composed of members from all their top projects.

But you weren't even alive when this masterpiece was released.
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>>377631496
>It isn't indie.
>Uses retro "8-bit" graphics to save money

I totally believe you.
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>>377628652
>*snaps glove*
>Alright, anon. Bend over.
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>>377631462
Emil killed himself, plus he was gay.
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>>377631462
That wasn't the original Emil.
He stopped becoming human ever since he became a weapon. Only his humanity is what makes him somewhat human.
Y isn't even canon.
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>>377631408
i'm not asking you to explain things that the game shoves in your way pretty bluntly

all i'm saying that it isn't an artistic masterpiece of any significant depth
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>>377631704
>Looks like my fingers aren't getting deep enough.
>Time to get the strap on
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>>377631813
From your posts it looks like a lot of the depth went over your head. It was 2deep4u.
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>>377631902
if this is what passes for deep nowadays then i choose to quit the medium altogether
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>>377632015
Go back to playing COD.
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>>377632050
i'd rather not, stopped at the second one when it came out
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>>377631591
I'll take the bait.

It's 16bit not 8-bit.
And it's on the Snes. That game was the pinnacle of graphics in its time.

It's still considered by many, the best JRPG of all time.
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>>377631716
Yes, it was the original Emil.
His clones were the hegel though.
Source: just beat the game last night and watched like 4 hours of info on emil, old nier, and new nier.


Also I'm kind of let down with the ending/s.
I kinda hope yoko makes more games. He said he was done and was going to start a resturaunt or something, hopefully that's just another joke.
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>>377632175
He's probably working on DoD4
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>>377632175
Wait, Yoko Taro was asian?
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>>377632417
no a potato
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>>377632050
yeah, that'd be about the same story depth level, makes sense
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>>377629304
The Machine Network created YorHa to place evolutionary pressure on itself, YorHa androids are all built with machine cores.
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>>377633289
where did you get this?
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>>377633289
See this is what I thought too, but that isn't what the side meaterial says.

According to the concert script, it's some random android that's never been introduced named Zinnia who comes up with the idea to fake humanity and YorHa, and he creates the first 9S prototype who figures it out, goes nuts, and decides that all of YorHa needs to die so nobody ever finds out the truth about humanity.

So what happens in route C/D is a big series of coincidences and not the machines orchestrating everything.
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>>377633445
not him, pretty sure the male voice says it in the tower though.
that's why 9s freaked out after hearing it.
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>>377633289
>people still believe machines created YoRHa
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Faggot.
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>>377633445
>cores
archive from one of resource units
>machines creating androids
third playthrough
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>>377633660
Well, at the very least they manage it and keep it going.
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>>377633660
Because it makes more sense that way. If you played the game and didn't come to that conclusion, you're stupid. It's only the side material that contradicts it.
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>>377633881
Look deeper. The Watchers created YoRHa
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>>377627758
>the cycle happens again
No? They say it's possible. All the ending was supposed to mean is how you should shape your own existence, which is kind of what the fight against the devs for a happy ending was supposed to contribute to. Not as revolutionary as some people say granted.
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>>377633971
Name 30 other endings to video games that are the same as Nier Automatas
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>>377633970
You lost me. What do The Watchers (la la la la la la) have to do with anything?
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>>377634026
In Undertale you fight the credits :)

Not shitting on the ending mind you, I did like it but it's still entry level philosophy, basically the step past nihilism where "if nothing matters I'll make things matter myself".
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>>377633289
This would've been infinitely more interesting than the stupid shit we got

Literally anything would've been better
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>>377634206
whoa i wanna be sledgehammered philosophy
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>>377634123
>What do The Watchers (la la la la la la) have to do with anything?

Didn't you read what I said? They created YoRHa.
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>>377634353
What if you philosophically sledgehammer?
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>>377634516
Why do you think that?
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>>377634541
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>>377634678
It's explicitly stated in game.
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>>377634026
Bravely Default did something very similar, except I'd argue it did it a lot better since it was all contextualized in the story.

>>377634258
Just ignore the concert script. There's parts of it that contradict Ending E anyway, so who cares. It already makes more sense if the machine network created YorHa from everything presented in just the game.
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>>377633971
cycle could also mean
games - the same conflict against gamedevs to win/complete the battle
2b/a2/9s will live out a similar existence as did survivors of nier like popula/devola being shunned for the outcome of war
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>>377634746
[citation needed]
the only thing to support your assumption is the symbols on eve's body
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>>377634746
Where?
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Beat route A all of a sudden and playing B, when does the game change because it's been the exact same fights
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>>377635053
B is lubing your asshole for when C comes.
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>>377635053
When you get to the parts where 2B and 9S were split up also get out while you can, spoilers galore.
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>>377635053
Just keep going through.
it starts with the small changes and then gets more and more different.
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>>377624871
How jaded do you have to be to not see the beauty in other people sacrificing their save to help you save 2B, 9S and A2?
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Isn't it funny how when a western game has a "2deep4u" story /v/ rightfully shits on it, yet when a Japanese game does it it gets a free pass?
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>>377635420
how the fuck does deleting a save file turn the save file into a hack ship that you control.

not him, but that's fucking gay. At least make the server real time so you can really fly the ship with other people or something.

>>377635706
nigga the thread is full of people confused and pissed off. for the most part the story was pretty well written and more complex than most western shit. it's not OK when anyone does it, but I'll give yoko a pass this time since it was at least cohesive in comparison to most of the shit the west poops out.
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>>377635965
no ur fucking gay
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>>377635706
People are still jerking off Spec Ops: The Line to this day. Fuck off.
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>>377635706
There is no such thing as a deep story.
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>>377635993
no u.
btw didn't delet my save ;^)
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>>377636006
Why don't you kill yourself, you fucking autistic cunt?
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>>377636143
>he replied with a totally logical observation
>you reply with kill yourself.

I guess you sure showed him.
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>>377624871
Because it was an emotional moment. It revealed the true meaning of the credits theme lyrics further expanded on this message by presenting a situation where other players supported and a sacrificed for others.

It wasn't mindblowing but it was neat
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>>377636220
Yeah I know I did, thanks.
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>>377635420
I still don't get why I'm supposed to feel good about deleting my save.
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The wars of the future will not be fought on the battlefield or at sea. They will be fought in space, or possibly on top of a very tall mountain. In either case, most of the actual fighting will be done by small robots. And as you go forth today remember always your duty is clear: To build and maintain those robots.
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>>377636275
>hinted at the 2b intro monologue
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>>377628790
>not knowing that end of yorha has all versions mashed together with a chorus sung from all the people who worked on the game for an epic climax
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>>377636275
I just wish they had done it in a way that wasn't so removed from the game. It's a fun idea but it feels kind of shallow, like it wasn't really justified or earned.
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>>377628790
Japanese one is different compared to the english one. They are by no means the same song. The japanese version is also called Song of a broken world (which happens during post -Ending E)
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>>377636514
>entire game plays with conciseness and uploading it to the server and death via memory loss
>last request is sacrificing your save others
now you know what 9s had to do
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>>377636287
Because your sacrifice means that someone else who's struggling might be able to make it.

It's something of a motif.
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>>377630774
> Its not in the game
It is.

t. Got 100% Intel
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>>377629618
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>>377633881
> Because it makes more sense
No it doesnt when an archive exists that tells you why YoRHa was created. God sometimes I actually believe you faghots watch lets plays on youtube and the discuss the game. These archives arent even obscure but even story mandatory archives that you always get
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>>377637279
>Emil
>Android
He was a human that was turned into a magic weapon.
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>>377637395
how do people miss this file...
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>>377637497
They are either retarded or actually fall into the category of people that watch lets plays and wonder why they miss 90% of stuff.
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>>377637279
emil wasn't an android. everyone in nier1 wasnt a replicant. No idea where you're getting either of these things from.

How about you provide a source to either of those claims.


All of the machines were designed by the aliens to be based on emil, that's why the ones that are eating everyone with the broken open faces have emils head inside of them. ( you can see his mouth)
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>>377624871

The journey was hyped and the hype was worth it. I'm sorry you didn't pay attention during the trip so you could enjoy the end.
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>>377637930
not him but the shit was very predictable to anyone paying attention. too much foreshadowing.

I knew the humans were all dead before i finished story A
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>>377638097
Its not really a twist since you already know that if you played the first Nier. Its more a plot point for the characters since they are not aware of it.
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>>377638097
That was barely even a twist though, anyone who played Nier 1 was aware of that. There were several twists I did not expect, like Pascal and the Forest Kingdom being connected to the network the whole time, 2E, and YoRHa being completely expendable
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>>377637497
Becauser we find out not long after that the machine network has compromised literally everything including the moon server and they're sustaining the android population just so they can keep fighting them and evolving.

Therefore, whatever the original purpose of project YorHa was, its current purpose is simply just to be the enemy.
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>>377637497
The file in question for people who didn't bother to read it
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>>377638287
I didn't play the first nier.
idk how much i would enjoy it after this one.

>>377638359
meh
whats the significance of the first thing?
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>>377638651
> current purpose
First N2 found out about everything in Route C and YoRHa was completely destroyed moments after.
Second N2 fucked off and freed Machine Lifeforms of their core directive.

Your entire post makes no sense
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>>377638737
It means that Pascal and the others never had any free will in the first place, in reality the machines in his village were no different to the machines you have been slaughtering the whole game.
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>>377636978
I mean that and the entire credits thing where you're getting help from other people. That wasn't motivated in the story, you could've attached that sequence to any game and it'd have the same effect.

Furthermore, I, the player, am not an entity in this story. The fourth wall break isn't justified, it's just there because it's a fun idea. By comparison look at how the first Nier handled the same choice where it was Nier making that decision in the story. If they established the player's identity as a part of the story like Undertale, that would've made more sense.
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>>377639504
thought so, makes sense.

I pirated the game, as probably a hundred thousand other people did. I don't think I would have bought it otherwise.
Even with all its downsides I would still give it a 8.5-9/10. Makes me want to play the next game yoko directs.

game sold over 1million copies so they should keep the story going somehow.
I would like to play a game between nier and automata where you're emil fighting the aliens. I think they could make it better than this one.
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>>377637395
You're fucking stupid, that archive is mandatory and everyone's read it which is WHY people are talking about the implications. We're discussing on a level deeper than your shallow surface understanding.

Everyone knows that YorHa is there to raise android morale, but when talking about who benefits from the way the project is set up, it's clearly the machine life forms.
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>>377639823
The ending sequence is a double edged sword. Its not just a 4th Wall break. Its also showing that Pod 042 overcame his programming (which was hinted at during Route C along with Pod 153) and fought against the deletion of YoRHa personality data to save his "children".

I mean Route C Ending E pretty much ends the same way as Route D Ending E. Except that the Ark got destroyed and there was no 4th Wall break.
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>>377640191
It benefits both Androids and Machine Lifeforms which is why N2 said fuck this shit since they are locked in eternal war.
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THIS CANNOT CONTINUE
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>>377640362
I don't think the androids benefit from the arrangement at all. The machine lifeforms, up until the point where they said fuck it, needed an eternal enemy. However, the androids didn't, they actually wanted to win. Killing off YorHa forever to protect the secret and raise android morale doesn't do you much good if all the androids die.

The machine lifeforms wouldn't kill them, but nobody knew that at the time. That's why the deal's lopsided and makes sense in the context of the machines orchestrating everything to me. They bolster their enemy to further their own evolution, and once they're sufficiently evolved, they have a backdoor to get rid of the problem quick and clean.
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Just got C.
How much gameplay is left to see?

I'm sort of done with replaying the same content/hacking
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>>377641032
You're basically done, just go watch the other endings.
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>>377640895
While you are right that machine lifeforms deliberately let Androids not get squished by making Machines behave retarded it was still based on mutual non-knowledge of each others capacity.

N2 didnt even know about the backdoor until it was opened which makes it silly to assume they put it in place in the first place. Since #9 put it in there I dont see a reason why to discuss a hypothetical scenario where side-material never happened
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>wanna replay the game
>remember the open world that is probably the most boring and empty open world I've ever fucking seen in a video game
>remember the quest design which while having goofy settings and somewhat funny writing, are all glorified fetch quests where you go pick flowers at the other edge of the fucking map
>remember the combat that really doesn't hold the game up for 40+ hours
>remember the leveling system that only hurts the experience instead of doing anything concrete
>remember the characters that are all bland as balls and the "romance" that is impossible to care about
>remember the entirety of route B and the fact that 90% of it is a complete waste of time
>remember that the story ends in an out of place 4th wall break that ends the story in an unsatisfying manner
wew
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>>377641032
go back into your file and pick chapter select and then go straight to the next ending.
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>>377641504
Well if you follow the conversation chain way up, someone else was positing that the machine network created YorHa. I came to the same conclusion before reading the side material, so I'm saying that it's the reasonable and natural conclusion if you're just going off evidence in the game and only in th egame.
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>>377642092
can you really name a game that did any better though? the dev cycle was like 2 years. I think they did pretty good.
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>>377624871
NEWSFLASH: WEEBS OVERRATE THINGS THAT GIVE THEM BONERS
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>>377642420
>can you really name a game that did any better though
this is what nierfags actually believe
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Remember that chest in the forest castle that had the " machine parts you can't pick up"
what the fuck was that about?
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>>377642559
I never played a nier before this one and pirated it. Can you name a game that did it better or shut your dicksucker?
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>>377642092
>remember this stale ass pasta
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>>377642564
some side quest
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>>377642420
Any game that did better? Did what better? Automata is a pseudo-cuhrayzee hack/slash so if you want a better game in that, Bayonetta 1 and 2 and DMC3-4.
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>>377642672
gothic
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>>377642728
I wrote that from scratch 10 minutes ago
>b-b-b-b-b-but you or someone else has posted similar complaints before!!!1!!
And this somehow makes those complaints invalid?
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>>377642870
bayonetta is fucking gay.
dmc is dead and buried.

>>377642897
looks as bad as it plays.
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>>377624871
ooooh don't say that OP, the taro-worshippers are gonna come for you now
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>>377644014
>bayonetta is fucking gay.
And still miles better than Nier
>dmc is dead and buried.
And still miles better than Nier
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>>377642092
How was the open world empty?
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>>377645459
How was it fucking not?
What is there to actually do in it?
For every small tiny secret, theres 99% more fluff that just makes the game last longer.
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>>377645705
nigger its a post apocalyptic future 10,000 years after humans died. What the fuck did you expect? GTA5?
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>>377645864
>nigger its a post apocalyptic future 10,000 years after humans died.
Which is fine, but lets not sit here and pretend that it doesn't harm the actual gameplay experience.
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The less you care about Automata's lore the better off you'll be, its nowhere near as interesting as the first game's and the characters are boring.
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>>377646039
im indifferent. I only did like 5 sidequests the entire time i played the game.
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>>377646337
>im indifferent.
So why argue and defend it then, what the fuck
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>>377646532
because the fucking optional quests are optional. If you're bitching about the empty open world then why the fuck are you trying to compare it with games like bayo or dmc that have no open world at all. Why do you think anyone even gives a fuck about your opinion in this thread in the first place?

>hur dur game is gay
then why the fuck are you sitting in a thread talking about it at all? just drop the game and move on with your life.
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>>377628963
>Automata threads were fine before the PC release, and even better before it was announced for Steam.

What kind of fucking bullshit lie is this? I was in tons of automata threads before it came out for PC trying to decide if I should get it for my PS4. It was 90% 2b ass shitposting and 10% shilling. Anytime I asked about the actual mechanics people would call me a nintenbro or XVfag or something and tell me to fuck off.
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>>377647479
The issue is open world itself. It just doesn't work. It's been overdone. Devs just seem to take the open world route because it's easier than making actual meaningful and fun locations full of stuff to do. Instead you can make an "open world" full of same repeating textures and random draugr cave.

I wish we could go back to time when everything wasn't unoriginal open world memes.
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>>377648676
You can go back nigger. it's called play literally anything that isn't open world.
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>>377649020
All new AAA titles are open world garbage though. Not saying I play them but that's what they are.
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>>377624871
> Doesn't even attempt to understand the ending, and why it is significant.

> It's a SHIT GAME

fuck off back to grade school.
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>>377649376
>nier is AAA
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