Should the rumors about a Bloodborne sequel at E3 2017 be true,

>>377585531
It makes me sad that From is wasting its time on more souls shit instead of Armored Core.

>>377585721
Well, well, well. The first post on /v/ is finally the best post. Good work anon.

>>377585721
>Implying they aren't killing AC by making armored souls

Nobody cared about the original except for a few sonyfriends who wanted their own bayonetta 2 shitposting. They took it upon them to falseflag for a few months straight to make it look like there's any interest in the game whatsoever. Don't believe me? It sold worse than fucking Wii U games on a console with 4 times the install base.

Are Souls games the new Call of Duty of vidya? Same shit repackaged by different companies in a slightly different skin and re-sold over and over again.

What would be better?
>Bloodborne 2 is announced and it remains a PS4 exclusive
>Bloodcarried is announced as a multiplat (with PC release 6 months after console)
As an idort it wouldn't affect me either way, but all those sonyfag tears if it went multiplat would be delicious I think.

>>377586303
soulblood sounds better

>>377585531

If if it's true, I'll gladly admit I was wrong and be ready to buy it when it comes out.

With that said, I just don't see it happening. Miyazaki stated after Dark Souls 3 he was done with the souls formula for a good while. Would why he proceed to make another one?

>>377585531
I absolutely don't want this to happen, it'll be DS2 all over again because I'm convinced Miyazaki is done with it all

>>377586364
I agree, I just came up with something along the same pattern as Demon's Souls to Dark Souls

>>377586375
>Miyazaki stated after Dark Souls 3 he was done with the souls formula for a good while. Would why he proceed to make another one?
Sony owns the Bloodborne name, right? Whose to say they don't just hand it off to Japan Studio and develop it without FROM?

>>377586260
If only.

>>377587050
If From's name isn't on it then it won't sell as well.

Yeah there's some idiots who will buy it just because of the name on the box, but the internet in general would raise enough of a shitstorm about From not developing it that a lot of people would be hesitant about buying.

>>377586375
>>377587050
Miyazaki said that the Souls series was done (for the foreseeable future) not the Souls formula. I think he even went so far as to say there will probably be MORE Souls-style games in the future.

I honestly just want a new armored core game.

The gundam games now suck ass.

>>377586129
It sold 3M and that's by far the best selling souls game on a single playform.

>>377587234

He said that he wouldnt mind other people making souls games which is why he didnt bat an eye with lords of the fallen, surge and bamco's own code Vein. But personally I think he's tired of the premise. We wont ve getting a soulslike game from them until maybe 2020.

>>377587050
According to Sony's TGS stage show when they initially showed off footage of it, a Japan Studio team consisting of guys who worked on Tokyo Jungle and Soul Sacrifice under supervision from From were responsible for TOH. Assuming that's true (iirc, Japan Studio's logo was on the GotY edition of BB, but not the vanilla release), a Bloodborne (Or hell, even another totally-not-Souls game) by them would probably be worth paying attention to.

>>377586303
Never ever PC fag. Stay mad

>>377587296
DS1 sold 2.9 million on PC, which puts it in line with BB.

>>377587360
Why the fuck would he care about those other games you dumb son of a bitch?

>>377585531
Imagine what happened when GTAV was announced for PC, but worse.

Doubly so if it's an exclusive or a multiplat.

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it better not be PS4 exclusive

>>377587619

Maybe because they copied dark souls aka competition? Most devs actually see this as a problem. Not Miyazaki.

>>377587696

Please refresh my memory. i was on /tg/ for most of 2013-14.

>>377587581
Yeah at $5 and $10 dollar sales.
Really not even close, this game+DLC is still $30-$40 dollars in most regions.

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>>377585531
>Nintendo can have exclusives
>Microsoft can have exclusives
>When Sony gets an exclusive it's a shitposting free for all.

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>>377587756

>>377587828
The moment it was announced the entirety of /v/ was spammed with goldfaces and the next few weeks and months was just as bad with concentrated efforts of shitposting and flaseflagging from both sides.

Bloodborne is still popular on /v/ since it came out, while GTAV is lucky to get a thread every few weeks so I can imagine it will be worse than that.

>>377587865
Nice goalpost moving. You/he posted a claim as fact, which I showed was incorrect. DLC is literally irrelevant to overall sales, and the base game is between $15-$20.

>>377587892
That's because xbone and nintendo exclusives are not wanted. When it's something everyone wants and gets exclusivity every flings shit

I just need my Armored Core VI.

If BB2 and DMC5 is shown you have no idea what chaos this would bring.

>>377588239
>wanting a dead franchise

Not even /m/ wants it

>>377588278
/m/ can fuck off, they are tu/m/blr now.

Besides, ACIV is in the making and Miyazaki is behind it, the man made 4 and For Answer.

>>377588326
I don't feel like many people give enough shit about armored core for it to be successful. Most people aren't exactly into mech games.
>>377586303
I just want BB on PC for them delicious 60 fps. They can keep the sequel if we get the first game. By now anyone who wanted to play it either played it or forget about it anyway.

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>>377585531
That picture is so badly done

>>377588639

Thats what people said about Demons Souls too when it was niche.

Armored Core just needs to be upgraded to modern From game design, and probably get the same mecha action from their Steel Battalion game minus the kinect shit.

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>>377585531
Bloodborne is the most overrated game on /v/.

As someone who's an actual fan of the whole franchise that didn't start with Bloodborne and then pretend I'd played DeS and rank it high: here's a better look:

Including ALL DLC:

DaS2 >>> DeS >> DaS >> Bb > DaS3

Before you rush to respond in your retardation, just remember:

• PVP is a weak point in the series but Dark Souls 2 SotFS has the best online experience of any game when it comes to Co-Op and PVP

• More people have pretended to play Demon's Souls than maybe any other game on this board. Most of those people started with Bb.

People really forget that before Demon's, From was known for their mech games. I want that era back.

Making another Tenchu would be cool though.

>>377587360
>Code Vein

isn't even remotely close to souls, its a god awful monhun clone that suckers fatlus niggers into buying it with MUH EPIC WAIFUS LMAO

>>377588823
No matter how many times you keep posting this stale pasta it will never be true.

>>377588823
>Dark Souls 2 SotFS has the best online experience of any game when it comes to Co-Op and PVP
I think you mean deadest. I got invaded twice in 80 hours.

If you don't like the BB aesthetic much, I can understand why you rate it so low. Otherwise you're just using hyperbole to flaunt your contrarian opinion for the sake of (you)s

>>377588823
You're objectively wrong there. It's
BB > DaS2 > DaS > DeS > DaS3

>>377585721
Who the fuck cares about Amored Core?

>>377585531
I don't want a bloodborne 2 but I would be down with it if they made magic a bit better, then I'd buy it and play as a witch

>>377588882
Its not a monhun clone though? The game is a copy paste dark souls but with broken weight physics.

>>377588972
I do. I want a good mech game.

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>rumors

There's literally nothing to go on but a mistranslation. This isnt even Project Beast tier, this is Emily Rogers and her troupe of liars tier. When its not shown at E3 I cant wait for you faggots to backpedal and say "n-no it will be at TGS" and when its not there you'll just pretend it's coming to E3 2018.

BB was a one-off. Never meant to be a series. we're never getting BB2, and that's perfectly fine.

>>377588052
Just admit you're wrong anon. Don't be a fucking baby about it.

playstation experience coupon voucher (for watching the sony e3 conference in a theater) is being reported to have the usual $10 voucher, a movie, a 15% off coupon for purchases, and a special 50% off voucher for bloodborne complete. That probably doesn't mean jack shit but i'm pretty interested.

Of course that's just a rumor churning through the usual pipes but it's not implausible, sounds like it's last years, and the year before.

>>377588052
Ok, let me rephrase, BB made more money by far than any other single Souls release on a single console thus BB was one of the most successful new IPs of this gen and a BB2 is practically a guarantee at this point.

>>377589053
What broken weight physics, it looked exactly like DS1 and DS2, just a tad faster.
It was actually slower and more weighty than DS3.

>>377589201
Never? Ok buddy. Let's make something super successful and never make another one. Clearly, you don't know how business works.

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>>377589386
Oh we're probably gonna get another soulslike by From, I'm not denying that, but we arent getting BB2

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>tfw I geniunely believe we'll be seeing Bloodborne 2, DMC5 and a new Retro Studios Metroid at E3.

I AM NOT CRAZY.

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I'd rather see these """"""rumors"""""" be proven false and the people who unnecessarily hyped themselves to Valhalla just because some literally-who developer who is not in any way associated with FromSoft to begin with claimed it get their panties in a bunch and cry themselves to sleep over it.

It ain't happening.

>>377589483
Retro isnt going to E3 this year. They only just started hiring people for a new project.

>>377589092
Mechs are dead video game genre.

>>377588823
You are right

>>377588639
Well, it doesn't need to sell buckload, just port it to PC and you are guaranteed it will hit at least 200K.

>>377588823
Very nice list but I have some adjustments

DS2(Scholar of the First Sin)>DS>DES>DS3=DS2>BB

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i kind of hope i never happens, because whether its good or not, sonybros will never shut the fuck up about it.

>>377589690
No, DeS should be last because it's mostly garbage.

>>377585531
The rumours are bullshit. If they're true, then it's not gonna be a Miyazaki or even From Soft directed game. Either Japan Studio are doing it themselves or they gave it to someone else (either outcome is crap; if Miyazaki isn't there the game will be a turd).

Miyazaki has confirmed numerous times that From is done with Souls and Souls-likes for the foreseeable future (Miyazaki specifically said that includes games like Bloodborne). While I wouldn't be surprised if they made another Souls-like in another five years, their next game sure as fuck is not going to be Bloodborne 2.

Don't be dumb. Screencap this.

>>377590164

Exactly. From said theyre line up is armored core, some weird game, and the last being a souls like which will not be in development at least until 2019

>>377585721
How many mech games from Fromsoft you got, my man? Just... Just count them all, my man. And compare to amount of souls games (first person dungeon crawlers doesn't count, though even if you will count them, there still be more mech games than fantasy).

>>377590248
I remember reading that one of their upcoming games is an action RPG, but it won't be a souls-like. That sounds really interesting to me. Bottom line it's definitely not Bloodborne.

>>377586364
>soulblood
It's called "tears".

>>377587490
But Dark Souls was the "bloodcarried" for Demon's Souls, my duder-man dude

>>377590164
>>377590310
What's weird is that they confirm an actual Armored Core, but /v/ isn't all that hyped.

Has no one here played For Answer, or even heard of 3, Nexus and last Raven?

>>377588968
Bizarrely, I think you're right? Might put DaS3 a little higher, but that might be my recent NG+/NG++ playthroughs and co-op sessions talking.

>>377585531
I like Bloodborne, but I had Bloodborne threads filtered for a while during that shitposting craze.

I hope it doesn't turn out like that again.

>>377590346
Woah deep...

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>BB2 made entirely by Sony Japan Studios
>It ends up better than Bloodborne

>>377585721
They're making one, though.

Miyakazi, I think, said that they were working on three big games: Armored Code, a Souls-like game and another weird, new IP.

>>377590164
>>377590310
How about you post the source of these claims

>>377590421
This is just impossible though

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>Bloodborne in the same location

Not interested, DaS3 was already too similar to BB

>Bloodborne 2 in Arabia or Wild West

GOTY


Imo anyway

>>377590489
Not at all. You don't need to ask Fromsoft to be the one to make Bloodborne 2 or Demons Souls 2.
The IPs are owned by Sony.

>>377590475
not gonna bother googling for some /v/ neckbeard. dont u worry, e3 is right around the corner and you'll see for yourself.

>>377590542
I mean, it's impossible to make a good soulslike game (I'm not even talking about "better" soulslike game), if you're not Fromsoftware.

>>377590421
>Sony Japan Studios
Why do you think Japan Studio has the ability to make BB2 alone?

>>377590542
pretty sure he meant sony won't be able to make a better game sequel than the original bloodborne without miyazaki. and he's right, no fucking way. there's no way in hell they'll produce better art style/atmosphere alone.

>>377590559
So you're talking out of your ass, just like the other side
Great

>>377590164
>>377586375
He never said he was done with Souls-likes just the Dark Souls series. Quit misunderstanding something so simple, you nitwits.

>>377590421
No Miyazaki no buy desu
I fell for the meme once with DS2 and never again

>>377590705
Im pretty sure he said bb included.

>>377590653
Yes, they have 5 souls games worth of examples they can rip off.

>>377590665
Fromsoftware can make great games without Miyazaki. DS2 was made with Naotoshi Zin and directed by that two guys and they did a great job, though the troubled development cycle is showing. Give them enough money and time, and they'll make something great.
But yeah, Miyazaki's games has that special touch. He makes better games than other fromsoft directros, other fromsoft directors make better games than non-fromsoft devs, it's showing after Nioh, Lords Of The Fallen, The Surge, etc.

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>>377588823
People say that BB is a masterpiece but I think it is shit

DS2>NIOH>DES>DS1>>>SHIT>>DS3>BB

>>377590738
DS3 was the worst DS game though, try again.
Honestly I hope Tanimura gets to be director.

>>377590749
Prove it
Where's the source to that claim

>>377590691
>>377590705
think you want you redundant mouthbreathers. he said it so many times lol. and yes he specifically said souls-likes and bloodborne, too.

just see what happens at e3 when miyazaki doesnt announce bloodborne 2 and remember anon called you the fucking retard that you are.

>>377590803
dark souls 2 and even 3 are fucking wank. and no, miyazaki confirmed that all of from soft aren't working souls/soulslikes, not just him.

just keep jerking off to something that's not gonna happen you ugly fuck.

>>377590840
no

You guys are fucking dumb. Of from is working on armored core and the weird new ip for the switch, how are they going to work on BB?

>>377590850
>and yes he specifically said souls-likes and bloodborne, too
>miyazaki confirmed that all of from soft aren't working souls/soulslikes, not just him.

Source
Come on, let's fucking see it then

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>>377590813
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/EpzajfIeuSM-3HzuOo9HPg/

Is this shit 240p image becoming the new "10 days to plat" meme?

>>377590850
>dark souls 2 and even 3 are fucking wank
I feel sorry for you desu my dude-man. At least you have DS1 (while I also enjoy DS2 and DS3 greatly)

>>377590164
The franchises are over, it's true. But soulslike gameplay is not. Miyazaki stated in the latest interview that " We're not concerned about whether they resemble DS or not." - so they don't care if their next game looks like dark souls or not. And it's a good sign.

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>>377590941
Sorry your feelings disagree with the facts.

>>377590850
Sorry faggot but repeating something over and over doesn't make it a reality. So far all you've been saying is "HURR meeyasacky said that he wont make souls-like games anymore DURR TRUST ME" without any verification to validate your claim. just give it up

>>377591007

Because theyre not making one. Easy. Theyre making fucking armored core.

>>377591041
no

>>377591052

Well id like to see you post proof that miyazaki wants a sequel to bb

>>377591041
Go play skyrim then, you'll like it
>>377591054
They're making three games now.

It will tie with DS2 as game from the franchise to violently blow shit on on the internet.

Another E3, another year to see Armored Core fans tear up inside.
This happens every year. Why wouldn't it happen again.

>>377591092
So you have no source?
You have no proof and now that guy has to prove that BB2 exists?
Amazing

>>377585531
>another game of i-frame dodging through the enemy's attacks and hitting them twice then dodging again and repeating until they're dead
So exciting. Can't wait.

>>377590995
Look at the way he ranked the "souls games". Why did you reply to him? You know the answer to your question. What the hell man

>>377591092
I didn't say he was going to make a sequel to BB, I just said that he never spoke about taking a break from Souls-like games.

>implying it won't be some new From Soft IP with similar gameplay
>/v/ will still be ass ravaged as long as it's not on PC
>>377591041
>I care more about linearity than individual level and boss design
>I'm going to pull out a /pol/ strawman despite actually being the one arguing with feelings rather than facts

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>>377591167
People have beaten the games at level 1 with no dodging or blocking. I think Dark Souls 2 is the only game in the series not beaten this way.

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>>377590985
>>377591052
>>377591163

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-interview-it-wouldnt-be-right-to-cont/1100-6432425/

This is just one interview. You lads are a special kind of retarded.

Please screencap all these posts so that when Bloodborne 2 is not announced from Miyazaki at E3 you remember just how idiotic you shitters are.

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>>377591041
>Dark Souls 2
>video game hallways

From an objective standpoint on all design aspects of these games, the order of quality is
BB > DS3 > DS1 > DeS > DS2SotFS

>>377591253
>I think Dark Souls 2 is the only game in the series not beaten this way.
You're pretty wrong. In fact, Dark Souls 2 has a lot more hidden mechanics that creates a good challenge. Wretch status, full hollowing, laddle-only runs, your usual NG+7 SL1 (the fact that NG+ in Dark Souls 2 changes a lot makes it even more difficult) - people played them all

>>377591167
You can oversimplify anything to sound redundant, even space travel.
>oh look it's another useless flight fueled by our tax dollars to float around an empty void
Regardless, It's a shame you hate fun so much

>>377591163
>now that guy has to prove that BB2 exists?
>SOMEBODY ON VEE SAID BB2 IS BEING MADE
>NOW HE HAS TO PROVE IT???

do you actually have any idea how stupid you are m8? do you ever self reflect at all? maybe just a little? an inkling of how fucktarded your hopeless neckbeard brain is?

>>377591254

Fucking this. Fromsoftware doesnt fucking want for people to think of them as the company that only makes souls games. Thats the purpose why theyre making these three new IPs that have nothing to do with Souls. They want to broaden their line up to look more appealing to future publishers.

>>377591293
>objective
Yeah, try again.

>>377591254
I'm retard because I asked you to source your claim and didn't trust a random person on /v/ blindly?

>>377591223
>>implying it won't be some new From Soft IP with similar gameplay
You are correct. Also, I have a feeling that it will be published by bamco and will have a similiar themes to Bloodborne. That's what that guy who said we will see Bloodborne 2 99% this E3 - it won't be a Bloodborne, it will be what Dark Souls was to Demon's Souls. Multiplat. New armored core and their "weird" game will be a Sony exclusives.

>>377585531
No-one wants bloodborne 2 you pc shill. The entire (((hype))) is being set up by you so you can pretend to win when it isn't announced. It was a perfect standalone game and has no story left to tell.

>>377591339
I didn't say Dark Souls 2 had no challenges, I said I think Dark Souls 2 is the only game where all bosses haven't been beaten without dodging or blocking. I heard this from one of the main challenge runners though and don't know if he was right or not.

By that I meant, fighting the bosses dodging attacks by only walking and running around, with no blocking or dodging. I know Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne have been beaten this way, including the latter's Chalice Dungeons, and at BL4.

>>377591539
>(((hype)))
What did he mean by this?

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>>377591293
boring/uninspired bosses, inconsistent and nonsensical world, Locations linear level design.

>>377591293

Those path-pictures are incredibly fake

>>377591539
You can read the insecurity from the posts. It doesn't need to be said at all.

>>377591539
>muh gatekeeping
>>377591545
Again, you are very wrong - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1g0TUfKDHU

>>377585531
>New from title called project beast
>Multiplat spiritual successor to bloodborne
>Fags who pretended they played Bloodborne will say pb is better
>Actual Bloodborne fags won't like it as much
>It's des and das all over again

>>377591686
Bloodborne was called project beast, though

I just hope it will be multiplat.
Because it will be worse than BB and yet everyone will defend it because they can pretend to play Bloodborne. Will be a funny shitshow

>>377588972
I do

>>377591783
You can replay your other 30 armored core games my dude

>>377591518

No thats what code's vein for. If bamco wants a BB look alike, then they should have renewed their contract with Fromsoftware, which they didnt, which I assume because as mentioned, Miyazaki doesnt want more Souls shit

>>377591753
Was, but isn't, so it'll be the name of the new one

>>377591829
But I want a new one, my dudest bro

>>377591615
That's not SL1

>>377585721
>wasting time

Just admit you don't like Souls game, bud

>>377585531
I feel like I'm one of the few people that only wants to play videogames. I don't want any video game to be bad. I don't want to shitpost about videogames. I want people to play them and discuss them, not to fling shit at each other. This tortanic mindset and wanting things to fail only to have a reason to point fingers and shitpost some more is fucking awful.

>>377591513
yes. you could have easily googled and found out for yourself from multiple sources, but you chose instead to blindly believe that BB2 is coming out because it's been memed on /v/ lately. you're literally too retarded to use the internet. get off before you hurt yourself.

>>377591845
He explicitely said he won't focus on making game that look like dark souls, but at the same time he won't be focusing on making game that don't look like dark souls. To me it means that your usual soulslike gameplay will return, but with new gimmicks (bloodborne had a lot of gimmicks in comparison to dark souls games)

>>377591919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whlxQfUwB4o

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>>377591293
I think my taste is just shit, I can't replay 2 no matter how hard I try, it's just so god damn boring to me.

>>377585531
another mediocre game retards who only have a ps4 will brag about thinking it's the best thing even if it sucks.

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>>377589278
>one of the most successful new IPs of this gen
>3M on a console with 25M units sold

I'm so, so sorry Anon.

>>377590840
DaS3 ain't a true Miyazaki game. B-Team made it, then Miyazaki joined late in its production to salvage what he could after he was finished with Bloodborne. They slapped the Miyazaki name on the cover for sales/marketing purposes.

The true Miyazaki trilogy is Demon's, Dark 1 and Bloodborne. These are the games he really wanted to make and was inspired to create. They were passion projects. DaS3 was nothing more than a contractual obligation to Bamco that wasn't even made from Miyazaki from the beginning.

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>all these PCfats desperately hoping for a multiplat sequel

NEVER EVER

>bloodborne 2
didn't we learn our lesson with DaS2 and 3.

The Souls games should be an anthology series with no direct sequels.

>>377592005
why are you even here

>>377592321
>>377592347
I never understood this hivemind "sequels are bad mkay?"
Like, you can't have fun if there is no Miyazaki name on it? Dark Souls 3 screams Miyazaki at each location

>>377585531
About as bad as the botw shitposting is now.

>>377592452

Because Souls games work as contained games with mysterious stories. Theyre never designed to have sequels.

>>377592009
I never said I believe it's coming my schizophrenic friend

>>377592427
Just to suffer

>>377592452
>>377592452
That's half of Dark Souls 3's issue. It just feels like a repacked Dark Souls 1 half the time, nothing fresh.

>>377592506
you're still too retarded to use the internet :^)

>>377592321
>DaS3 ain't a true Miyazaki game.
Miyazaki saved this failed project, no doubt it was a true Miyazaki game

http://www.4gamer.net/games/305/G030527/20150616028/
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201506/17081111.html

>>377592621

No it wasnt. There were three directors for das3. It was that other guy who made it.

>>377592583
>too retarded to hunt a rumor some anon spouts

>>377592669
>confirming he's too retarded to google

>>377592621
i dont speak moon

>>377592489
You, a fucking anon on a chinese cartoons imageboards know what Souls games are better than its creators. Ok.
>inb4 t-they forced him! They took his favorite puppy hostage and threated to kill it if he won't direct another game!

>>377592578
There is a lot of fresh ideas in Dark Souls 3, and it has a unique atmosphere. In fact, each Dark Souls game has.

>>377592658
A single person isn't making a game. If it's not a pixelated platformer, of course. Lots of people made Dark Souls 3, and made it good. Miyazaki participated too.

>>377592321
Miyazaki joined late into Demon's Souls development and salvaged it.

>>377592719
>>inb4 t-they forced him! They took his favorite puppy hostage and threated to kill it if he won't direct another game!

In a sense they did. They had a contractual obligation, despite the fact that Dark Souls 1 really works better as a standalone story.

>There is a lot of fresh ideas in Dark Souls 3, and it has a unique atmosphere. In fact, each Dark Souls game has.

It really didn't, half the bosses are a repeat or caricature of a previous boss in the series. And then you have NPCs who are just copy and pasted from DaS1 into DaS3 like Siegward and Andre.

>>377592452
Sequels aren't bad, in general, but sequels to games designed without sequels in mind tend to be less than stellar.

Personally, I'd rather keep the games as their own individual things. A new, similar, game, but with its own world and story sounds far more appealing to me than a sequel to any of the existing Souls games. That said, I'd still play a BB2, if it were to ever be a thing.

>>377592779
yeah but he completely changed the game and made it his own. it became a brand new game entirely, the original producers had no idea what they were doing.

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>>377592452
Anon, this community is utter trash and is fixated on hating the current game and emphasizing how the previous ones were better. After all the anti-Dark Souls 2 shitposting that happened in this board and on /vg/, Dark Souls 3 came out, and now it's suddenly popular to hate on it and praise Dark Souls 2 despite the former being way better than the latter, albeit with some flaws. Now it turns out Dark Souls 2 was one of the best Souls games, and it's hilarious to see this sudden shift from hate to love just because another entry was added to the series.

At this point I hope From makes something quite different, while keeping some of the best aspects of the series like the checkpoint system, invasions, and the very creative lore/settings, but different enough so that people won't do the same with it and compare it to some idealized version of the past games based entirely on nostalgia. That's just me being silly though, people will always do that.

I wish the community would be more comfy again, but as the game got more popular, it has been declining in quality. Just see all the shit that gets flung around. And add to that a bit of console war shitposting because Bloodborne happened to be a PS4 exclusive.

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>>377592818
Is this lazy souls?

>>377592818
Andre is the same character though.

>It really didn't, half the bosses are a repeat or caricature of a previous boss in the series.
Please elaborate.

inb4 they look alike so they are a repeat lol

DaS3 bosses are way more fucking complexes than most bosses in DaS1.

>>377592719
>every lord of Cinder save for the Lothric brothers is just a slightly different version of previous bosses
ya dark souls 3 was real original

>>377587756
>PS4 owner
>a nigger
you cant make this shit up

>>377592843
Then you could say the same thing about DaS3.

>>377592779
Miyazaki creates great characters. Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3 - each game has interesting characters. I love Dark Souls 2, but the characters in this game are abysmal. I don't believe he makes a lot of decisions in game mechanics department - though he created a unique multiplayer system.

>>377592842
The whole idea of cycles in Dark Souls screams "more sequels", so Dark Souls wasn't created without sequels in mind. In some way it was a sequel to Demon's Souls. They can also create another dream for Bloodborne 2, though I am sure this won't happen any time soon.

>>377592906
But I want another soulslike, with similiar narrative mechanics (mysterious npcs, item descriptions, no hand holding), but in different world.

>>377592938
Yhorm
Aldrich
Abyss Watchers
All the same

What the fuck is wrong with you, boy-o?

>>377585531
nothing will ever eclipse the shitposting about bb. what a wild ride, it was originally leaked on /v/ and the PCbro prepare to meme bandwagonners wouldn't shut the fuck up about being assblasted. then when the game came out everyone realized it was kino while the PCbros clung to their precious DS2. then when DS3 came out we realized bb was the best in the series.

>>377592931
Abyss Watchers have a nearly identical moveset to Artorias.

Yhorm is literally just a weaker version of the Storm King. Deacons is the Congregation again, Sage is Fool's Idol without the resurrection gimmick, and the last boss is Gwyn, which would've been nice if the game hadn't borrowed so much from the previous ones.

>>377593108
>storm king
>gwyndolin
>artorias
real creative dark souls 3

>>377593109
basically the exact opposite of that statement is true and I own and like the ps4.

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>>377592956
no you couldn't. demon's souls began a brand new innovative sub-genre we call souls-likes. though it took inspiration from the king's field games this was its own beast. miyazaki worked on demon's souls for well over a year.

meanwhile in das3 he came in towards the end of its production after finishing with BB. he didn't create any levels or anything else, it had all been laid in its foundation. at best he just tweaked shit and helped with the art direction. demon's souls was entirely his baby. dark souls 3 was almost complete when he joined and he gave some finishing touches at best. the "co directors" already had experience with DaS2, it wasn't something Miyazaki crafted from the very beginning like he did with DeS

>>377593109
I just realized that the reason they keep clinging to Dark Souls 2 to this day and wont shut up about it is because of Bloodborne and how it affected them.

I think the shitposting will honestly be worse because BB is now firmly established as a game that's just shitposted about so people will try their hardest to live up to it

>>377592925
There's only so much you can accomplish as enemies in a medieval setting without using dragons gargoyles and knights

>>377592260
Gaming Audiance is super varied, it's not expected to have a massive attachment rate when most people play COD/FIFA and a couple other franchise. Bloodborne was a huge success.

Did you know that Bloodborne has the 3rd highest number of Platnium trophies out of all ps4 games? Not % of playerbase, but total number of gross Platnium trophies.

>>377593225
Bloodborne is a good example of From's creativity making a ton of meme bosses. The best fights in Souls are the least gimmicky ones that actually force the player to learn movesets, timings and be patient. I don't think there's a single boss in BB that requires patience since the regen is so strong.

>>377593264
DS2 just had very great PvP and it's mostly those PvP guys praising the game. Also

3 DS2 DLCs > 1 BB DLC

>>377593245
My gosh, that's amazing autism

>Dark Souls 2
>has almost nothing to do with Dark Souls lore-wise, just had references
>"woaaah, bad lore, shit game, not a dark souls"
>Dark Souls 3
>almost a direct continuation of Dark Souls
>"shit game, rehash, no original ideas"

I don't get you, you fucking idiots

>>377593172
>>377593225
>yorm
>storm king

What am I reading. Did we fight the same Storm King? Flying dude with his minions, where you have to dodge his projectiles while aiming at the sky? How it's a Yhorm?

>>377593391
standard /v/ deflection after getting told ;)

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>>377593352
I don't like Bloodborne's bosses either but for completely different reasons. There's simply no variety for most of them, either being flailing beats or hunter fights. I don't really mind no patience though, the entire game is about you striking at a quick pace and being just as aggressive as the boss.


90% of Dark Souls 3 bosses were retreads of previous bosses in the franchises or complete gimmick shit though.

>>377593352
>The best fights in Souls are the least gimmicky ones that actually force the player to learn movesets, timings and be patient.

speak for yourself. I think the best fights are the ones where you don't have a second to take a breath so you're constantly on your toes, that's why I think Ludwig is as good as he is

>>377593419
>how is Storm King Yhorm

You're encouraged to grab the same sword that shoots hurricanes to kill them. The sword is even called the same thing as a reference. I don't get how you could've missed this. They're extremely similar bosses.

>>377593245
>t. fromsoft developer
How would he know otherwise?

>>377593494
The fight itself is different. By your logic, every dark souls fight where you have to kill a boss with your sword is the same. Artorias? Capra Demon? Same bossfight!

The shitposting will be bad, among the worst in a while, but it wouldn't even compare to how bad it'd be if the first got ported to PC. The shitposting would 404 the server if that happened.

>>377593607
>The shitposting would 404 the server if that happened.
Did this really happen?

>>377593571
It's really not though, you just stand back and swing the meme sword at them.

>Artorias? Capra Demon? Same bossfight!
They don't rely on the same one dimensional gimmick to beat them, so not really. Beating them with a sword isn't an equivalent to using the Stormbringer because that's simply the core and ubiquitous gameplay mechanic, whereas Stormbringer is very clearly a unique one.

>>377593440
>90% of DSIII bosses were retreads of bosses in the franchise

Retreads of good bosses are objectively better than original bad ones, and though there is meant to be similarity since its the same world they have plenty of differences. It's like the 5 or more werewolf form bosses in BB with virtually the same moveset, it's still not bad since Cleric beast (if we call that the base form) is a fun boss, so they are all fun with little differences that make them good. Hell it'd be better to have another werewolf boss with frenzy stacks or some gimmick over many BB bosses.

>>377586453
>implying with the current built foundation and formula of bloodborne a ds2 like sequal wont be awesome
>implying ds2 was that bad... (it was still fun)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBFUnm1hYU

Dat massive fucking hype and salt when the trailer was leaked on /v/

>>377593656
>Retreads of good bosses are objectively better than original bad ones,
If I wanted to fight those bosses again I'd just go back to them, so not really. And Dark Souls 3 had plenty of original bad bosses along with that.

>>377593108
I may be mistaken, since it has been quite awhile since I've played DaS1, but wasn't the idea of cycles only truly introduced in Dark Souls 2? As in, the whole "more sequels" was really just something they tacked on, in the sequel?

It isn't like I think there was absolutely no room to expand, but it still felt, to me, like it didn't really need to be explored more, and the sequels suffered in quality because they poorly attempted to do so.

>>377593607
I hope it's a bait. No sane person believes Sony will port their own developed games to other systems.

>>377593648
Can you beat Storm King without stormruler, by the way?..

>>377593734
Cycles of age of fire and age of dark were in the first game

>>377593773
>Can you beat Storm King without stormruler, by the way?..
With magic or arrows, yeah.

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>>377593708
>the hype
>the asshurt
>the denial

I wonder if we'll ever have drama on /v/ again like the one Bloodborne caused. Incessant shitposting that literally went on for over two years. to this day the peecuck prolapse still hasn't quite healed.

>>377593773
>Cycles of age of fire and age of dark were in the first game
No they weren't. It was never mentioned to be an eternal cycle. There had only been one Age of Fire, and it was fading.

>>377593708
One cool thing about Bloodborne's/Project Dark's reveal is that we actually saw GAMEPLAY before we saw anything else. No bullshit cinematics or anything else, just straight gameplay. Whether or not that was intentional we won't know but it's still a nice thought to consider.

>>377593713
that's irrelevant, you'll be playing DSIII in any case, just to get to unique bosses, so you'll be fighting the DSIII retreads. And none of them are disappointing fights, so they hardly make the game worse. If they were unique but shit like in BB then the game would be shit.

>>377593245
Who cares about the degree of Miyazaki's involvement?
Games are being made by hundreds of people, not one person.

>>377593713
I'm pretty sure there will not be BB2, and they always do something new and make the game great

BB>DS1>DS3>DS>>>DS2

This isn't hard.

>>377593935
why are we just assuming the new bosses have to be shit in one way

can't they make new, original bosses that are good

>>377593839
Can somebody post screencaps?

>>377593882
The eras were in the first game. The idea that different chosen undeads can link the fire, or just walk away, was in the game. DS2 just expanded this idea, while DS3 introduced the end of the cycle as we know it - the world is weak and it can't exist anymore. All is crumbling. Though, in the second ending they still gave us hope.

>>377593773
At the time of the first game it wasn't a "cycle." It was the age of fire, as in there weren't other ones. You could prolong it, but that doesn't really seem like ground that needed to be tread; we as players could already understand that concept and where it would lead. Or, you could end it, and the age of fire would be done.

>>377594007
The ages were, it was never said that these ages were an eternal cycle, that was completely introduced in DS2.

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>>377593708
>I-IT'S A DARK SOULS 2 MOD
>I-IT WILL BE MULTIPLAT

>>377593708
>51s
wait, what is that?? that glowing sword thing?

>>377594052
Also it was never said these ages were a finite cycle.

>>377593997
that's not the original argument, it was just pointing out that DSIII retreads are better than new and original BB bosses that are gimmicks or bad. There's no point discussing wehat From should do, but rather what they've done.

>>377593989
BB2=money
/v/ never learns.

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>yfw BB2, DMC5 and MH5 are all revealed to be Sony exclusive

>>377594128
>Also it was never said these ages were a finite cycle.
Hence the fact that this was a concept introduced completely in DaS2.

Why the fuck would anyone just assume a time period was an infinite cycle?

>>377594182
Because time in Lordran is convoluted. Geddit?

>>377594181
>>yfw BB2, DMC5 and MH5 are all revealed to be Sony exclusive
>DMC5
why would anyone want this when DMC4 on PC is miles better and even has extra modes?

>>377594107
Before they settled to use levers for Chalice Dungeons it looks like they had more Indiana Jones ideas. It never made it to the final game. But having no magic is part of Bloodborne's lore. Every spellcasting tool is just a medium to access powers from another place.

>>377594243
What magic are you talking about, these swords were supposed to be lamps/bonfires, but they changed it, because sword were too similiar to bonfires. The animation is the process of activating the checkpoint.

>>377594243
> Every spellcasting tool is just a medium to access powers from another place.
how is that definition different from magic

>>377594242
I don't want Microsoft's PC monopoly to be further reinforced. They can release it on Linux if they want to and that'd be fine.

>>377585531
>>377585531
hopefully they dont make the same mistake of "hunters dream" and add a bonfire like system ffs, to save on those awfule loading times

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>>377592070
Dark Souls 3 brought back what I had come to expect from Souls level design. The areas had a excellent sense of scale and use of vertical space. They felt like interconnected parts of an organic world, rather than the "video gamey" hallways we got with Dark Souls 2. I really appreciated that it took a page from Bloodborne, and divided every single bossfight into phases, with attacks and patterns that varied throughout. It made every boss feel unique and purposeful.

>>377594530
Undead Settlement was a nice rehash of Hemwick Chapel Lane.

>>377594351
>hallway looks like chalice dungeon beta
>the sound of stabbing the sword sounds like what plays when you open the gate to a chalice dungeon boss

>>377594364
It doesn't come from the player but from the tool. Without the hunter tool the character cannot cast it.
Its not like dark souls or demons souls where you would check your box for the scroll and equip it on a magic/ miracle tab. You must have the hunter tool on your person to use the spell and it goes on the same item slot as healing items.

>want more games with fast gameplay and cool transforming weapons
>don't want them to taint BB's lore like they did with DaS
Quite the predicament

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>>377594007
People initially swore up and down that it wasn't anything of note and that From would never work with Sony again after the whole thing with DeS went sour. Come E3 2014 and its official reveal and the salt was off the charts.

>>377594962
Lamo. I can't think of a bigger assblasting even on modern /v/

Will their next game provide us more entertainment in this regard?

>>377586364
Beastborne sounds much better

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Blame!souls my bois!

>>377595330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cnEZrPQhPQ

>>377594962
>that ned stark
so much kek every time. eternally btfo'd.

>>377587360
That's japs though, they fucking despise work but they do it anyway. The more tired and fed up Miyazaki gets the more he'll make.

>>377595330
How's the movie?

>>377594695
I don't note any similarity whatsoever, it's totally different asides from groups of mobs.

>>377594530
DaS was good where it was complete, but the level design of the incomplete areas was infamously bad. DSIII was fully crafted and realised and areas like Dragon Monastery and Irythyll are up there with the best of DaS. Just compare how much better the dreg heap and earthen peak is to Oolacile.

>>377595643
Haven't watched yet. I doubt it will be good, 3d anime still have a lot to improve

>>377586129

The hype for BB was massive and you are a complete moron.

>>377595643
>>377595731

It was actually pretty good. There's a bit of converting Blame! to more mass appeal (see, the design of the Electro-Fishers and less moments of endless walking through the gigantic Megastructure) but beyond this it didn't forsake the manga, Killy still had really few lines, for example. As for the 3D, it still looked a bit weird when the characters were talking and there were some dodgy fire effects but aside from that it looked quite good.

It surprised me in a positive way, I thought it'd be bad.

>>377596120

Any rips of it available yet? How did /a/ think? Blame anime was one of the things people really wanted to happen.

>>377596378
It's up on Netflix, and online by HorribleSubs. You can find it easily on the new Nyaas.

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>>377585531
Bloodborne II will break /v/ eternally.

It will never happen. It sold poorly compared to Darksoul.

>>377596698

Thanks brah.

Just watched the trailer and when Chibo spoke, its almost hilarious that I immediately knew who her voice actress was.

>>377590346
>Dark Tears
>Blood Tears
>Soul Tears
>Tearful Souls
>Tearful Blood

Shit they don't sound half-bad.

>>377596880
What does that have to do with anything

>>377596904

I can imagine Blood Tears to be an actual game.

its Aztec souls, with heavy emphasis on blood sacrifices and your check points take the form of ritualling killing an infant on a small ziggurat

>>377585531
>Revered director of the Dark Souls series Hidetaka Miyazaki has said there are no plans for sequels or remakes, but From Software is working on a new IP.

If you've already finished Dark Souls III and are looking for more deep lore and challenging combat try our collection of the best RPGs on PC.

In an interview with Chinese site GGN Gamer (and put into English by the denizens of NeoGAF) the From Software president said "rather than make another sequel, I think it's time we take a step to a new direction. Development of a new IP has already begun."

On top of this, further attempts to ask about a Demon's Souls remake were met with confirmation that old or new games in the existing Dark Souls, Bloodborne or Demon's Souls universe are unlikely for several years.

"We want to try making new things," Miyazaki said. "There's absolutely no plan right now for any sequels, spin-offs or tie-ins. But I can't say for certain the possibility is zero per cent. For example, if a From Software developer come to me five years from now and beg 'please let me make another Dark Souls' then I will not rule out the possibility to let my subordinates start a new project."


No sequels, new IP's

>>377597326
Daily reminder that Bloodborne is not a spin-off, not a sequel and not a tie-in

MOON PRESENCE DID NOTHING WRONG !

>>377597463
reminder that Bloodborne 2 would be a sequel, you mongoloid

>>377597535
New IP, my dude-man. New action RPG game with souls multiplayer

>>377597019
More sales = more chance for sequels

>>377597678
But it sold well. Not as good as Dark Souls but it still sold well

>>377594530
Bass phases have been a thing since DS2 tho

>>377585721
they are working their way up the time periods to eventually reboot armored core as a part of the souls games

>>377596880
>It sold poorly compared to Darksoul.
Darksould is multiplatform, not an exclusive.

>>377585531
It will be called bloodborne: bloodborner. You'll be in the hunters hunters dream or the hunters dreams dream and do more wacky sci-fi shit. Oh and patches will be a dick.

>>377585531
CRASHING THIS BOARD

>>377585721
But they're working on a new AC according to Miyazaki.

>>377597939

So

Since BB transitioned from gothic horror to cosmic horror would 2 do the same? It would sort of lose the impact

>>377598270
So their sales team wouldn't expect it to sell as well as Dark Souls.

>>377598351

Who cares

>>377585531
It was funny how everyone was really hyped about "Beast Souls" until they found out it's a ps4 exclusive, then the shitposting hit the fan.

>>377598652
Moron.

>>377587865
>C-consoles don't have sales!
Stay mad sonybro.

Not worse than the original. BB already overcame console war fuel just for being a good game. There will inevitably be some BB2 threads that aren't false flags

>>377598890

Gaylord

>>377585531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq0UHEIfMuA
>mfw better version of rengoku game never