>204863 are co-ords to the bermuda triangle (gz helicopter

>>377530851
is your tin foil hat lined with lead?

>>377530851
This needs to end, op. You're only hurting yourself.

can the mods just permaban this poor cuck before he ends up killing himself after E3?

>>377531161
>>377531343
Why do you fear the truth

>>377531467
I don't. I'm more afraid of someone who is clearly in delusional over a video game.

>>377531634
You need to back to re.ddit then

>>377530851
>204863

Sure, but do a google image search for Paz' prisoner number, 471298. ;)

>>377531435
Even if nothing happens he'll still claim "its part of the ruse!"

>>377531435
>cuck
That's not an argument. I can't wait for you to get BTFO when the Camp Omega ending is released.
BELIEVE!

>>377531767
Like I'd ever go to that shithole.

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>return to camp omega

>>377530851
MGS4+Metal Grind 5 are both shit.
Just get that into your head.
Both were designed for the action crowd and not for actual stealth fans anymore. 5 even more so.

>>377530851
so this is PTSD of the autistic order

kojima's gone and V didn't live up to the hype - get over it

>I CANT FUCKING WAIT TO SEE YOU NON BELIEVERS GET BTFO AT E3

we'll see, if we get BTFO, then we're in for a treat, color us surprised
But if nothing comes out of it you'd probably be so disappointed you'd kill yourself knowing how much invested you are into this.

Just go into it without any expectations, let Kojima just develop games outside of MGS.

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>getting hyped for TPP after playing Ground Zeroes
>actually playing TPP

what a fucking disappointment
thanks for reminding me OP

>>377531435
You must be new here.

hburr dburr i'm so fucking retarded hburr dburr

>omitting who will voice Snake

telltale sign OP doesn't have a fucking clue

>>377532184
IT'S NOT OVER YET

I thought MGSV was okay, but I never saw any of the trailers.
The only thing I hate now is that if I go back to the game, my MB will be raided to shit and I would have to get everything again.

>>377532443
Why bother with how shit Chapter 2 was? Might as well look forward to MG Survive.

>>377532691
What was so shit about Chapter 2? Did you not play PW? That game pulled the same thing.

>that eternal FOB glitch

>>377532808
Played a bit and dropped it. Even then its retarded in 5 and I would assume its retarded in PW.

>>377532808
I feel like 95% of the pissing and moaning about MGSV would have been avoided if they just called it the "epilogue" instead of "Chapter 2"

Imagine being this guy investing so much into forcing a really lame meme

>>377533139
But the epilogue in PW was called Chapter 5.

>>377533091
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

>>377530851
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

>>377533139
>prologue
>chapter 1
>epilogue

lofmao

>>377533091
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

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>>377530851

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>>377530851
>thinks corporations who face serious legal consequences for withholding information from stockholders would do any of this

This post is so 'in-the-dark' it's honestly sad.

>>377533745
enlighten us. what have they done wrong?
their official statements have all been "no comment - everything is fine"

>>377530851
Sup, Caramel. Keep fighting the good fight.

>>377533479
then don't call it chapter 1

regardless the problem is that half you faggots had wildly ridiculous expectations, like you all honestly believed you'd be going to Shadow Moses and Zanzibarland and Iraq to meet Baby Sniper Wolf

>>377533948

Considering there's textbooks on corporate law you're going to have to fill me in on how much you know.

>>377534047
and some of us expected mgsv to be the remake of mgs2 that it was

Where's that anon with the ZoE theory? I know that started as a joke to troll Caramel and FIB but it's surprisingly well thought out and somewhat convincing.

>>377533948
They've withheld information from shareholders that directly effects now or in the future the price of the stock they posses. This is fraud.

>>377534154

Except it wasn't, it's just an AAA gaming company brazenly releasing an unfinished game. Stop trying to rationalise it.

>>377534463

>asking fan boys to be logical

>>377534356
>>377534580
You have no idea how the real world works, kiddo. When the shareholders hear about MGS5 and Silent Hills their reactions will be "hmm, let's see...MGS5...a new installment in their long running popular series? excellent good, now what's this other game they announced? something called silent hills? hmm, this series hasn't had a new installment in a while but the internet went crazy back when they dropped the demo, excellent, konami's future is looking very promising".

Disarm/help disarm all nukes so we can all continue the game.
I cant say more.

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>>377534149
what has konami done wrong by saying "everything is fine - nothing has changed" if in fact everything is fine and nothing has changed.

>>377534356
what information has been withheld???
their official statements have all been "everything is fine and nothing has changed"
if there's a ruse and kojima is still working with them, then their statement of "everything is fine and nothing has changed" is true.
the fact that they have made these statements actually supports the ruse theory, according to the legal obligations you're pointing out.

>>377534632
severe autism

>>377534774
Great argument.

>>377534632
>You have no idea how the real world works, kiddo
>When the shareholders hear about MGS5 and Silent Hills their reactions will be "why weren't we told sooner we are a publicly traded company."

>>377534721
>what has konami done wrong by saying "everything is fine - nothing has changed" if in fact everything is fine and nothing has changed.

fucking kek m8 they can be vague and mislead customers but if you think you can be vague to shareholders you're fucking wrong.

like 10 chapters in a 30 chapter corporate law textbook kind of wrong.

>>377534896
it's true

>>377534921
>like 10 chapters in a 30 chapter corporate law textbook kind of wrong.
You type as if you've never read a book in your life.

>>377533948
>>377534632
>>377534721
>>377534896
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

>>377534721
>what information has been withheld
That they are in possession of more properties, staff and intellectual properties.

All of this will effect stock prices, not informing a shareholder who decided to back out because of the press and feeling like Konami is going in the wrong direction will lead to a lawsuit regarding fraudulent activity.

>>377535005
>You type as if you've never read a book in your life.

my masters and JD say otherwise but you're an anon on the internet in a conspiracy theory thread so i'll take your word for it

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https://twitter.com/metalgear_en/status/865186537784397824

Why have they suddenly decided two years after the game released to try to patch their anti-cheat?

>>377534463
>short prologue at night in rain to show off graphics
>snake takes on the mission because of emmerich's faulty info
>villain in cowboy boots brings team to CIA location via helicopter and fucks shit up
>snake framed for heinous acts and believed to be dead at the end

>years pass before main chapter that takes place on an orange hex plant
>you play as someone who is given the code name snake and conditioned to be snake
>you enter your name at the beginning and it appears at the end to reinforce the player/protag connection


MGS2/V

>>377535181
Because THIS
>>377534713

Lets all work together to make the nuke counter reach 0 and see what happens

>>377535181

TPP's microtransaction currency expires for JP servers after 6 months.

>>377535181
because people still play it and they're testing network features out for Survive and/or whatever Fox engine games they shit out in the future

>>377535040
show us the numbers

>>377535320
People have been trying to forever. They disabled the counter so what would it even do?

>>377535434
>They disabled the counter

???

>>377535387
>conspiracy nut asking someone to fill in the blanks

hahaha

Yes, now I have 2 threads to monitor

*grabs popcorn*

>>377535148
Joke's on you nigger I'm actually a member of the Supreme Court so I think I know my shit.

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>>377530851
fuck you if your wrong op

>>377535639
>Joke's on you nigger I'm actually a member of the Supreme Court so I think I know my shit.

Ruth?

>>377535387
Go to /biz/ if you want numbers, the presence or lack there of, of numbers changing is irrelevant, it's easy enough to argue that cause and effect of the fraud caused the numbers to be what they are and thus they were manipulated, even if that was to keep them the same.

There was a known fraudulent act, concealing Kojima and his ruse that you're arguing for, so in a court system it'd be up to Konami to prove their actions didn't effect stock prices (all actions effect stock prices so this can't be proven) and that they didn't know the stock prices would be effected (once again everything effects the prices, and they're in buisiness so they're aware of this, so this is also impossible to argue against.)

The funny thing is, a shareholder losing/gaining money has zero effect on their ability to sue for damages in a situation like this, and so they'd likely receive a class action lawsuit over it.

Kojima will BTFO everyone and release Bloodcharted V: The Phantom Ratchet and make it a PS4 exclusive

>>377530851
>>new playstation ad has the old kojima productions logo in the background

source on this

>>377535907
Dang thats gonna be rough... and they're just now bouncing back after that class action lawsuit they faced from shareholders for pretending that phantom pain was made by a fake studio called moby dick

and the other lawsuit they got hit with for claiming they'd be making a deltoro/kojima collab and then cancelling it completely

E3 can't fucking come sooner

>>377536343
he won't give a source because it doesn't exist

>>377535907
“The next project will challenge a certain type of taboo. If I mess up, I’ll probably have to leave the industry.”

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>>377531897
>admitting you've been there

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You have PTSD from The Phantom Pain disappointment, Caramel. I hope you get help and find peace. Phantom Pain isn't the nightmare, it's your life that has been turned into a nightmare.

>>377536420
Show me the time where they removed their VP, made it public knowledge that he was no longer employed, they bought new assets and hired new employees off the book, and developed a new IP.

Misleading marketing that they still put down as financial transactions on their shareholder reports, and cancelling a game once the major heads of the game were no longer employed are not fraud.

Who is publishing this game?

>>377536850
me. ask me anything

>>377536495
Fuuuuuck youuuuu bitch, it does exist because he gave me the source when I asked kindly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJNayAQG-r4
It's probably just an easter egg in my opinion, but it's there.

>>377535636
Where is the other one?

>>377535434
It was a rigged game from the start. The blockades made it physically impossible to deplete the nuke counter to zero. Konami recently said they'll be removing nukes obtained by "cheating" and will make it easier to reach nuclear disarmament (e.g, remove blockades). It was a rigged game, Kojima will only let us win when he wants us to. Since his ruse is ending this E3, now's the time.

>>377536343
>>377536495
>>377537123
Fucking newfags.
http://imgur.com/a/QhKMZ

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>>377537653
WHAT DOES IT EVER MEAN??????

>Using popular Playstation logos in a Playstaiton commercial

>>377537653
Look buddy, they are just there because they are known for being on Playstation.

>>377537653
Fucking rekt.

Get fucked non believers!

>>377535310
its like poetry

they rhyme

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>>377537653
Holy shit, Kojima is making the new Assassin's creed! CONFIRMED!

>>377538040
do you think Assassin's Creed is involved in the ruse too? noticing its logo there

perhaps everyone is in on it... perhaps all developers will join together without publishers to create an army of developers without borders and no publishers!

>>377538156
finally a good ac game
if it'd been true

>>377538203
>perhaps everyone is in on it

I'm in on it but don't tell anyone. have you bought Fallout 4 and Skyrim SE yet?

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>>377538040
>going this low
for shame

>>377538156
>>377538203
holy fuck I don't want to get my hopes up, but Kojima assassins creed confirmed?

>>377538281
help I'm being made fun of by a transsexual who thinks MGSV is a big ruse and Konami allowed their reputation to be dragged through the mud because "it might be cool for this prank I wanna do"

Spider-Man needs to be shown off asap. I'm expecting it at E3.

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>this faggot again
Time for a LOL thread guys

>>377538592
get out of here, man! his superior knowledge of ruses will melt your brain!

>>377538578
MAYBE this is actually a bigger ruse than we thought.

watch the ruise be a Raiden skin for MGS V

Caramel, I'm curious and I will trade you a present bump for an answer; if you comply I'll grant you another (1) bump if the thread is on page 7 or further:

What are / were your thoughts on Quiet?

>>377538720
His penis is quite a ruse.

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>>377530851
>>377531820
>>377533458
>>377534632
>>377534896
>>377537575
>>377538281

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>mfw when I smell a ruse

>>377538895
>What are / were your thoughts on Quiet?
A shit, boring character. Or are you probing me to see if I support Quiet is Chico? I really don't know what to think on that since the Camp Omega ending will reveal one of the following
a) TPP is a coma nightmare
b) TPP is VR simulation
c) Zero captured Big Boss at Camp Omega and fucked with his brain to induce schizophrenia (Venom Snake and Big Boss are the same person)
I think it's b), but I'm not sure where Quiet can fit into this if it is b).

i bet caramel is gonna die alone some day.

>>377538040
>>377538281

So, no answer then?

>>377531161
Fpbp

>>377539124
yes kaz is ocelot as well right?

>>377539131
We all are gonna die alone someday.

>>377538891

There already is a Raiden skin for V

Remember when Caramel claimed Quiet was actually transgender Chico?
And when everyone found out he faps to Boogie2988 colostomy-bag-fetish fanfiction?

>>377539292
a Rising suit not a skin

So is this guy just forcing a retarded meme nobody finds interesting or funny out of autism or is he an idiot or what's the story here fellas

>>377538792
>Kojima retweeted Guerrilla Games looking for a new system administrator
>Zero is the administrator of the alternate universe portal experiment in Metal Gear Survive
>Horizon: ZERO Dawn

holy SHIT. Horizon was just a preview of the world you get transported to in MG Survive. The monsters you hear in the trailer are the robot dinosaurs and shit.

BAMBOOZLED BY THE RUSEMASTER AGAIN

>>377539124
what if it's e) the game was bad and unfinished and there's no ruse

what would you do if that turned out to be the case?

>>377539293
kek when was that found out? link?
>>377539539
it's PTSD

remember when Kojima had that event that promised a "surprise" and it just turned out to be a fashion show?

god damn that shit was funny

>>377539124
>Zero captured Big Boss at Camp Omega and fucked with his brain to induce schizophrenia

Anyone else seeing the parallels?

>>377539789
he is big boss, after all. we all are big boss

>>377539674
>link?
it was in the background of a playstation ad and someone laughed once when i mentioned it, so it's basically confirmed

>>377532808
The side ops were really cleverly done, different weapons were in different parts of the map and there are prisoners to save and interesting little interactions unique to each mission which they took the time to add in. TPP just lobbs you in with a kill/fulton over a different person in each of the side opps and later missions, perhaps with some slightly unusual enemy like the walker gears, but it was wrong not to have them populated in the free roam map when not on a mission anyway. TPP would have been much better if it fit to the sample set by GZ, have all the main story parts in different areas, with a set of side ops to complete alongside pertaining to that particular area. Granted I'm extrapolating because GZ only has one story mission.

>>377539124
>Or are you probing me
I wanted to see if you were this person I talked daily who was obsessed with alternative theories about MGS games. But they liked Quiet in general, so that clears it up.

>>377539570
The after-crash helicopter shot proves otherwise.

>>377539860
Suspicious laughters:
>mark cenry and kojima laughing when asked about cancelled silent hills
>jordan laughing when asked about the kojima / konamim split
>kojima's translator snickering at dorito pope when he asks about returning to camp omega
>in an interview about death stranding dorito pope said "so it sounds like it'll be something very psychological, maybe like PT, right?" then kojima started laughing very nervously and dorito pope followed suit, realizing he was giving it away too much

>>377539674
In some archived thread. Someone who knows him posted chatlogs and he went full autismo and threatened to kill the guy

>>377540079
>/v/ laughing at you

>>377540079
>The after-crash helicopter shot proves otherwise.
anon, I know there's a ruse and all the non-believers are going to get BTFO, but what would you do if there wasn't a ruse?

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>>377539293
>Remember when Caramel claimed Quiet was actually transgender Chico?

kek'd to the point my neighbor's dog started barking

>>377540168
>what would you do if there wasn't a ruse?
you know damn well what's going to happen. we are all going to see these threads leading up to TGS and then the next E3 and the game release and every game event that kojima will attend for the rest of his career

caramel is a good poster. I like him in the same way I like DSP

why not start a youtube channel caramel? you're probably insecure about your voice but you can just use microsoft sam for the narration

>>377540408
>why not start a youtube channel caramel? you're probably insecure about your voice but you can just use microsoft sam for the narration

please do this
I need a new youtuber to watch go full-meltdown after that autismo went nuclear over his shitty Nier Automation review

>>377540328
I mean what if there was undeniable evidence the ruse wasn't happening? what caramel went to go see kojima irl and he was killed by a falling piano, so even if there was a ruse it would never materialize?

>>377540557
??? what are you talking about ???
pls link?

>>377540079

>proves

(You) keep using that word...

>>377540669
how do you know the current-hour caramel isn't the caramel who first posted?

>>377540734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X2tiINl-X8
^ review (3 hours)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGJ4gBpderg
^ meltdown

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>>377540975
>>377540557
Speaking of NieR: Automata and predictions, I screencapped this before it came out waiting to have a chance to post it but then went into spoiler-hibernation.

>>377540975
who the fuck is this guy, he sounds like he's on the verge of autistic tears. what happened? I don't want to watch his review

>>377541241
>posted review
>neogaf or rebbit or whoever tore into falsehoods on lore
>responded with video before bursting into treats

that's the tl;dr

>>377530851
>it was just a ruse guys, mgsV being an unfinished piece of garbage was part of our master plan

pls stop posting this shit, I just want to forget about mgs

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Real or not, this was a very interesting video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bPQdbGyUY

I love theories about vidya. Don't you anon? Why are you here?

Pythonselkan bros. on youtube do their 1 hour - 2 hour long analysis videos of MGS and DS and honestly all of this is mildly entertaining at best, but in my opinion, it's not worth to waste months of your life looking into everything Kojima does, should just wait for the game, then see what's in it and go from there

>>377537123
>remix of Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
I recognized that song! That means it's a good commercial!

>>377541653
That's what I'm doing, I watched the video but I mostly spend my time playing SH 1-3 and MGS games.

>>377540079
I am convinced you're not actually convinced of what you're saying, you're just some neet with a lot of time on their hands. Someone prove me wrong.

>>377541445
That's a lot of time wasted.
Sucks.

isnt caramel a tranny?

>>377541659
Everybody knows that if you make a celebratory commercial with easter eggs all around just seems shallow. How do we make it more tasteful?
Oh I know! Let's set it in an obscure confusing setting with a whispery but recognizable song to make it seem like it's more artful and make the daily normal gamer feel like he is part of something! Ka-ching!

>>377542292
no that's FIB

>>377542292
>>377542418
both are attention seeking faggots whom you should hide and not reply to
same shit.

>>377542292

both trannies

>>377542580
>attention seeking faggots
fucking this

this is the only thing that should matter in these threads

why trannies always have mental issues.

>>377543125
It's like homosexuality is some sort of mental disease or something.

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>If its not announced there will be an autistic meltdown.
>If its announced i'll get more metal gear.
Its a win win situation.

>>377543836
At least he think e3 will reveal everything. Teh day he gets blown the fuck out I wonder what excuse he'll come up with next.

>>377543836
>E3 2017
>new trailer for Death Stranding
>doesn't confirm or deny anything
>has enough vague details in it to add fuel to the wild speculation threads and sustain them for months
>not even a tentative release year to assuage the wait

>>377542292
No, he is into scat.
Caramel=His favorite shade of poopoo

>>377530851
Kinda feel sorry for mgs v retards.

What a bunch of pathetic schizophrenic fuckers.

>>377530851
Kojimas ruse cruise is a supreme meme.
Litteral bogpill of /v/

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>>377546653
hey I'm not a schizo

>>377547198
italianjoe? is that you?

>>377530851
I feel like a god damn crazy person when I see this shit. I feel like I put this stuff in the back of my mind, sea,ll it away and say "There is no chapter 3, it is what it is."

Then other people suffering from Kojima syndrome and it gives me that itch in the back of my mind that maybe there might be something more.

MGS and Silent Hill take place in the same universe. That's why there's supernatural forces in MGS series.

not really

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>>377547551
Silent Hills is called Silent Hills because there will be multiple otherworlds. There are five otherworlds. The six blocks around Norman's neck have equations on them related to black holes and interdimensional travel. The six blocks will allow him (the player) to travel between the five otherworlds and the real world.

There are two versions of the suicide playing on the radio. In the dominant version of the suicide Reedus hangs himself with a garden hose, representing the PT otherworld. The version of the suicide where he hangs himself with an umbilical cord is leaking from the Death Stranding otherworld. When Lisa kills you she snaps your neck, then you hear the sound of unzipping and tearing flesh. She removes Norman's clothes and tears something out of his stomach. When you awake you find a bloody bag containing an object that talks to you. She ripped a fetus out of Norman's stomach and put it into the bag, hence the C-section scar in the Death Stranding otherworld.

Kojima said he wanted to make Silent Hills an open world game and Death Stranding is said to be an open world game. Admittedly he also said Death Stranding will be an action game like Uncharted but he also denied any involvement with The Phantom Pain when that was being marketed as a HORROR game. He marketed The Phantom Pain as a horror game when it was an action adventure game, now he's calling Death Stranding an action adventure game when it's actually a horror game.

>>377541647
Just to suffer?

>>377530851
>it's another MGS ruse cruise thread

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>>377547551
You can't suppress your thirst for ruses for eternity.
Remember, THE CRUISE NEVER ENDS.

>>377547854
I've read all this stuff before I actually hope it is true

>>377547854
how did she rip a fetus out of a man's stomach

>>377549001
Found the underage. You see, Silent Hills is a sequel to a series called "Silent Hill". The Silent Hill series is a survival horror game series with supernatural elements, often the supernatural town will depict bizarre impossible events to mock and reflect sins that the character has committed. In the incident in question Norman killed his pregnant wife, Lisa. Now the town has trapped him in a purgatory state where if she catches him she tears a fetus out of his stomach as a way to taunt him. But Norman is innocent, the men in the sky possessed him and made him kill Lisa.

>>377549387
Silent Hill is a massively overrated series.
It's clusterfuck of "lore" is about as deep as Dark Souls i.e. not at all

>>377549496
The first four games are sound with very simple lore. Anything beyond is popcorn horror, kiddo.

>>377549387
>Silent Hills is a sequel

You mean 'was' :^)

>>377550597
Death Stranding is Silent Hills newfag.

>>377550631
>this is what mentally ill trannies actually believe.

>>377549496
k

>>377549565
>underage
>kiddo
ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>>377533091
You were wrong
Where's my fucking money

>>377550631
What do you get out of this, wrong or not so false, what do you care honestly, just play the game if you like it, don't waste your life on this

I want to believe.
What do you think the plot of the real MGS5 will be?

>>377534632
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

>>377537575
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

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>>377552354
The helicopter never crashed. Big Boss returned to Camp Omega after MSF's destruction. So that raises the question how did Big Boss end up in the coma if the helicopter never crashed? Good question. Something happened to him when he returned to Camp Omega that put him into a coma. The Camp Omega ending will reveal
a) TPP was a coma nightmare
b) TPP was a VR simulation
c) Zero captured Big Boss at Camp Omega and fucked with his brain to induce schizophrenia (Venom Snake and Big Boss are the same person)
Whichever one it ends up being, when Big Boss realizes what Zero did to him it'll spark the war between Big Boss and Zero. Aside from their war I'll imagine it'll focus on the fan service stuff people dreamed of for TPP like the recruitment of certain Foxhound members (Gray Fox, Sniper Wolf) and Big Boss's descent into villainy. Maybe even a Fox Engine remake of Metal Gears 1 & 2 but that may be a bit much to expect.

>>377552351
I get to spam my compilation of you faggots calling me mentally ill or retarded non-stop come this Sony conference.

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>>377538281
>>377539124
>>377540079
>>377547854
>>377549565
>>377549387
>>377552839
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

*Fixed your image btw

>>377552839
>The helicopter never crashed. Big Boss returned to Camp Omega after MSF's destruction. So that raises the question how did Big Boss end up in the coma if the helicopter never crashed? Good question. Something happened to him when he returned to Camp Omega that put him into a coma. The Camp Omega ending will reveal

this is dumb even by kojima's standards, you are severly touched in the head.

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>>377552839

>>377552994
Then explain the image I posted. Kojima said we would return to Camp Omega and it would involve a "big feature".

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>>377553048
I explained your shitty image here >>377552903
You're welcome my perturbed friend :^)

which mgsv trailer is the best?

>>377531161
this

I can't wait to see retards like OP keep calling it "le epic ruse Dx" when they get proven wrong at E3

>>377552839
But couldnt the plot of TPP exist in canon still? With Skull Face being an enemy of both Boss and Zero, and having recruited Colonel Volgin and kid Mantis, the decoy plan could have been initiated to throw him off both of their trails.

>>377553048
game wasn't finished and it was cut like many other features

>>377553214
Anon, please dont reply to bait, just use the standard guidelines for this kind of mental disorder: >>377533091

>>377553152
I never liked those over-dramatic trailers.

I always go back to this one though, it's my favorite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2832JKsNFA

>>377553105
Wrong. Big Boss has cuts on his face from the Paz explosion, yet the helicopter is still airborne and it's DAWN (a few hours after GZ).The helicopter cannot be airborne if he has wounds from the Paz explosion because the Paz explosion is what caused it to "crash".

>>377553214
The shot of Big Boss with wounds from the Paz explosion suggests otherwise. There shouldn't be any more content in GZ because the helicopter "crashed", so Big Boss should not be in the same functioning helicopter at DAWN with wounds from the Paz explosion. That should not exist, cut content or not.

>>377553189
I don't understand, do you think Skullface is responsible for Venom Snake? The so-called "truth tapes" (which are actually nonsensical and do not fit together with the series continuity) say that the big bad of the series, Zero who hates Big Boss and wants him dead decided to rescue Big Boss and nurse him back to health. Zero is the one who created the Venom Snake. Or am I misinterpreting what you're suggesting?

>>377553152
Those 40 minutes gameplay demos made me pre-order the game. No regrets here.

>>377553540
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

>>377553540
you were wrong
where's my fucking money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JUiw4RsF0U

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>>377553661
You're only setting yourself up for further humiliation when I turn out to be right.

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>>377553728
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

>>377553728
thanks for the screencap, now we are ready for E3, when you'll get blown the fuck out.

How embarrassing

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>tfw try to play MGS5 with mods to force Subsistence mode
>it still isnt fun

>>377553048
Camp Omega did come back as a map in MGO3

MGO3 was the "big feature" you fucking retard

Do you pronounce it like CARE a mel
or CAR mel

>>377530851
are you still butthurt i blocked you on the MGS ebooks bot and will NEVER EVER unblock you?

>>377533091
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

>>377553968
Yes and the shot of Big Boss with wounds from the Paz explosion at dawn in the functioning helicopter don't suggest otherwise at all.

>>377554110
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

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>>377554048

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>>377553540
>The shot of Big Boss with wounds from the Paz explosion suggests otherwise. There shouldn't be any more content in GZ because the helicopter "crashed", so Big Boss should not be in the same functioning helicopter at DAWN with wounds from the Paz explosion. That should not exist, cut content or not.

>dawn

don't you think the troubled development of MGSV might be a better explanation for some inconsistencies?

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Post you're face when you arent this deluded and are just happy kojima gets to work on a new IP

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>>377530851
Kojima was right. The Phantom Pain wasn't Snake's, it was ours.

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>>377554260

>>377554185
Deciding to render Big Boss with wounds from the Paz explosion in the still functioning helicopter at DAWN is a pretty big fucking giveaway mate. Blind fool.

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Who the fuck chooses Caramel as a nickname anyway

That's as gay as it can get

>>377554110
That scene is used in a flashback after you first rescue Kaz.

>>377554339
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

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>>377554260
About time, he's been waiting for this since MGS2

>>377554339
firstly, it isn't dawn, in my last post I posted a pic of the sky which is darker than any sky in TPP at night

secondly every fucked up thing in a game isn't a giveaway for anything because game development is messy and a lot of things get changed and cut, and MGSV is known to have had an extremely troubled development and it shows in the final product

Imagine this fags face when konami presents metal gear survuve and announces a new silent hill mobile game

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>>377554260

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>>377554260

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>>377554408
Yes, and it never happens in GZ, all the more reason why I'm right. Venom is briefly remembering a fragment of the truth when that shot comes up (they returned to Camp Omega).

>>377554539
>firstly, it isn't dawn, in my last post I posted a pic of the sky which is darker than any sky in TPP at night
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>377554682
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

>>377554682
>>377554539
Holy fuck I never noticed that before but his face is even burned from the explosion.

>all this faggotry
>they think kojima is this clever
>the best thing he could come up with for V is LMAO NOT BIG BOSS

come on man, you give him too much credit

Caramel is the hero /v/ deserves.

>>377554682
looks about as dark as the nights in TPP, my dude

>>377554790
you were wrong
where's my fucking money
>>377554898
>Caramel is the monkey /v/ deserves.
Fixed that for you

>>377554940
Then you better get your eyes checked because that's a light blue with a yellowish tint from the rising sun.

>>377555001
you were wrong
where's my fucking money

>>377554940
That's a fucking dawn retard

>>377534247
I want to hear about this too

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Someone get barneyfag in here, I want a showdown between these two

op reminds me of flat earthers

>>377553540
Zero doesnt want to kill Boss though, like EVA said in 4, He wants to keep him alive to make him into a messaiah figure. Even if he's comatose and fucked up.
I'm just saying Zero made Venom as a way to draw Skull Face's attention while he and boss do their own thing.

>>377554791
MGS 2 was pretty remarkable considering the current landscape of society, but this boy op is a special kind of crazy. Special enough to believe any company would go for this.

>>377555001
>>377555295
okay it's dawn and it still doesn't mean anything, there's no ruse, MGSV was just disappointing and one day you're going to have to deal with that

sorry man

>>377547854
make a thread tomorrow
i'll post some interesting overlooked shit

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>>377555490
TPP was probably all a coma nightmare, there're a few hints about this.

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>>377555781
>>377555490
This fan is no where to be seen in mother base.

>>377555640
wait isn't this a memory that venom has?
are you asking why there are inconsistencies in venom's memory?

uuumm lemme think....hhmm.... ruse??? I can't see any other reason why venom snake wouldn't remember things correctly...

>>377555640
Keep ignoring the cuts. Oh yeah, and the fact half of his face is literally burned to a crisp.

>>377555490
After having Solid Snake kill Zero regretted it because that's what revenge does. When it's finally achieved all that energy and anger you dedicated towards dissipates, leaving an empty hole. There is no "war" or conflict that Zero and Big Boss had. TPP makes it impossible for any conflict to have occurred in the timeline.
>there was nothing left of the boss's noble will in their struggle. all that remained was hatred. a passion to destroy one another.
>and so began the war between zero and big boss.
>their absolute severance for her drove them apart.
And from Big Boss himself
>after all is said and done i cant help but wonder. did zero really hate me? or did he just fear me? its too late to ask him now.

>I'm just saying Zero made Venom as a way to draw Skull Face's attention while he and boss do their own thing.
Big Boss used Outer Heaven and Zanzibarland to stage a coup against Zero. That's why Zero had Solid Snake kill him.

>>377555778
Why not now?

>>377530851
>ford commerical called the phantom stars mads having a face transplant in cyprus wearing glasses kojima tweeted called 1985
this is the worst constructed sentence ever. Lucky that I actually know the source, but man, please, proofread your shit

>>377555943
because i'm not at my computer, lol
eh, i'll give you a reply whenever i spot your trip

>>377555915
neither is mother base platform customization, d-dogs scripted introduction, the lisa decoy and probably tons of other shit I can't bothered to commit to memory because I just put the disappointment behind me and moved on

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>>377555781
>>377555915
I like to think the VR simulation theory is more likely. The fan can be reality bleeding into the simulation. Sergio said that VR will be used to teach his patient how to walk after the surgery and that VR can be used to treat phantom pain.

>>377556059
They'll be in MGS5.

nev r giv up

>>377556059
E3 will come, nothing will happen but shitposters will continue to shitpost this ruse cruise theory

it's just a different breed of shitposting

>>377555943
>Keep ignoring the cuts. Oh yeah, and the fact half of his face is literally burned to a crisp.
I'm not ignoring your evidence, I'm just not accepting that it's sufficient to prove the most insane stunt ever pulled in media. what's stopping you from chalking this up to coincidence or just the game being unfinished?

>>377556280
>what's stopping you from chalking this up to coincidence or just the game being unfinished?
How the fuck can it be a coincidence? His face literally has cuts from the Paz explosion and half of it is burned to a crisp. It cant be cut content. No more content is supposed to exist beyond the Paz explosion because the helicopter "crashed", so the shot in question proves the ruse is on.

Not to mention the original post (which is only half of the copypasta) has too much evidence to refute.

>>377556189
>They'll be in MGS5.

MGSV already came out and we got most of what we were promised, it was just a really underwhelming and clumsily put together game which reflects its troubled development

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Caramel is right about there being more to MGSV, but it has to do with disarmament. Chapter 3 comes after disarmament.

None of this bermuda triangle DS = Silent Hills = MGS5 bullshit.

>>377530851
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>>377556280
based on koji's records, he has an eye for detail
he would be the first to notice snake is bloodied up in one scene, and clean after a transition in the not your kind of people trailer

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>>377556436
Wrong. MGS5 is a separate game. Dorito Pope also slipped up in when being interviewed about how he got involved in the Moby Dick ruse when he said Kojima approached him and told him he wanted to do MGSV in 3 parts (Ground Zeroes, Phantom Pain, so what's Part 3).

>>377556418
I said coincidence and the game being unfinished, my dude

maybe we were supposed to return to camp omega and that cutscene is from some of the content that was cut

>>377556563
You fail to understand the ridiculous repercussions the helicopter not "crashing" has on the story.

>>377556464
>based on koji's records, he has an eye for detail

MGSV is full of this kind of shit though, there are even incorrect subtitles, the game was just unfinished my dude

>>377556436
wasn't this before the whole Kojima got fired thing?

I like how these threads are generally over when caramel runs out of images to post and keeps calling people "faggots" and "kiddo"

>>377556539
I think I've seen that before but I can't remember it clearly. Do you have the link to that interview?

>>377556670
It was about a year after.

>>377556670
no, it was all a ruse, everything is a ruse

>>377556616
you're thinking about it like that's the only thing that was cut

there could've been an entire story arc that contextualizes why venom might remember it this way, just like the lord of the flies ending which people only knew about because it was included in the collectors edition

or alternatively it could intentionally not make sense because it's the memories of some brainwashed loser who's trying to think from a perspective that wasn'this

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>>377556720

>>377556640
>there are even incorrect subtitles

Such as?

>>377556670
Yeah, so all hope seemed lost for a long time, but Konami have actively started promoting disarmament for the first time ever, nearly 2 years after release. They even stated they're gonna take care of cheaters and illegitimately obtained nukes.

Why bother with cheaters 2 years after release if there's not something more to it?

>>377530851
Why are faggots like you in every game? There is no hidden meaning in any game, ever. Death Stranding will be a shitty one-off game. There are no more MGS games, nor Silent Hill - not for a long time. There is no ruse, here or with any other developer. Kojima is a guy that makes games for money, and he is about to make a bad one. None of his shit is connected.

The End.

The thing thta really drives home the fact that mgsv is a large side story instead of a main game is that koji outright said MGSV != MGS5

>>377556849
because at e3 konami is going to show that they are continuing to support the game "for the gamers"

>>377556854
Do you have the source for this statement caramel?

>>377556828
I haven't saved them or anything, but I've played the game a couple of times and there's one or two tapes which incorrect subtitles

doesn't really matter if you don't believe me tho

>>377556962
ahah upvoted

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>>377556849
No, the AMA was about a year after Phantom Pain's release you lying fuck.

>>377556854
Also look at the 2013 red band trailer. Most of the game looks complete, what the fuck was he doing for two years?

>>377556983
Pic.

>>377556707
Trying to find it.

>>377557009
How much did they differ? Are you talking about different synonyms or other insignificant changes?

>>377556849
but everybody knows there's something after the nukes have been disposed.

It's the disarmament cutscene.

Why they took 2 years I don't know

This doesn't prove all this DS is PT or MGS 5 is coming nonsense. It takes Konami 3 months to update transfer in PES games. The game is outdated before it even comes out, why would it be surprising for Konami to take a long ass time to fix the nuke shit. Plus they have a shitty new MGS game they want to sell, maybe Survive is connected with nukes.

>>377556983
https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/637435774162436101

>>377557325
>It's the disarmament cutscene.
Red herring, triggers Camp Omega ending, etc

/mgg/ revival when?

>>377557358
and don't forget this shit
https://twitter.com/Kojima_Hideo/status/865881089499320320

>>377557217
>No, the AMA was about a year after Phantom Pain's release you lying fuck.
The event he talks about in that post is way before the Kojima split, you absolute fucking retard. Learn to read.

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>>377557296
iirc the subtitle displayed a word that sounded a bit like the word that was said, but it wasn't the same word and the subtitle made no sense in the context of the conversation

also the TPP PS4 had a typo on it

the e3 demo had a typo too, pic related

>>377557373
and how would it trigger something that's not even in the game files for MGS V? People have dissected MGS V's game files and didn't find any camp omega, they only found shit like chapter 3 title files. Are they gonna update the game with more content when disarmament is reached?

>>377557561
I'm aware of that, I'm referring to the AMA. He would not tease us >>377556539 like this AFTER the Konami / Kojima split unless it was a ruse. Just like Konami's lawyers don't have magical lawyer powers to prevent Kojima from accepting an award. Seriously, that was one of the most obvious parts of the ruse.

>>377557646
They found the GzHelicopterCrash variable which will be used to trigger the Camp Omega ending. It has to be released from Konami's servers.

Another interesting thing is the timeline in TPP get's Paramedic's date of death incorrect. When someone messaged Robert Peeler about the error he said "we're not currently looking to share any further information on that character at this time".

>>377557535
thats tough
a revival has to be worth it because you know the quietfag is coming back
if this rusery isn't happening, you still have MGO2R coming up

>>377557728
Dont forget the kojima base emblem that still hasnt been unlocked.

>>377557868
stop encouraging him please, it's cruel

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>>377557868
Pattern of previous emblems indicate first day of E3.

J signs the PT system crash screen. J is on the bridge Del Toro enters. "J-san" has joined the Survive team and is encouraging players to disarm their nukes.

HAPPENING

>>377557613
Come on dude, typos happens. Also subtitle are done by teams of translators very distant from Kojima supervision.

>>377557976
the biggest ruse in the history of media by the master of ruses....

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>>377558160

>>377558205
OH MY GOD MY BODY IS READY FOR THE RUSE I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY THE REAL MGSV BECAUSE THE FAKE ONE WAS SO DISAPPOINTING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE!
VIC BOSS VIC BOSS VIC BOSS!!!
VIC CARAMEL! VIC CARAMEL! VIC CARAMEL!

>>377558205
pope is hyping Kojima's next project, nothing weird about that. Him writing red doesn't connect this to the blue ogre/red ogre theory.

>>377558376
Project Ogre is ending.

We were the ogres for flipping out on Konami.

>>377557976
Don't kill yourself when nothing is revealed or nothing is HAPPENING at E3

>>377558458
>camp omega is ending
>project ogre is ending

pick one

camp omega is project ogre is not an answer.

>>377558458
VIC CARAMEL VIC CARAMEL VIC CARAMEL!

YOU'RE THE BEST FOR FIGURING THIS OUT CARAMEL! I WAS GOING TO HANG MYSELF BECAUSE MGSV WAS SO BAD BUT NOW I KNOW THIS FALSE REALITY IS BUT A RUSE AND SOON I WILL BE REUNITED WITH MY BELOVED FRANCHISE ON GOOD TERMS AND LIFE WILL BE GOOD AGAIN! AT LAST!

>>377558458
what about people doubting konami would trash their rock star developer?
are we not your kind of people?

on an unrelated note, I'm fairly excited that ChipCheezum's next LP is MGS V.

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>>377558458
M-Masaka!

why does everyone feed into Caramel's autism. He's the CWC of Metal Gear.

Lol this dude is a fucking idiot

The thing that disproves this ruse is that the only way you would know about it is if you browse /v/. Otherwise kojima will have to go on an autistic rant on how masterfully crafted his ruse was

Kojima likes to ruse people but he would not be allowed to make any corporate-level ruses that involve everyone on the planet shitting on Konami.

Death Stranding is gonna be a regular third person shooter and will probably be "okay" at worst because the wacky story will keep everyone interested. Kojima really did start a new studio and he is trying to make stuff he always wanted to do, AKA getting a bunch of his favorite actors do weird shit on motion capture suits for his game.

There is no great conspiracy ruse. No company would allow that to go that far at all over the span of several years, because in the real world the investors would wonder what the fuck is going on and no one would risk that shit. Get a fucking grip.

>>377531820
You better live-stream your suicide if you're wrong.

>>377561301
see you at TGS XD

>>377553037
is that the tripfag autist?

shit he's kinda cute

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>>377555781
Is this the title screen after you beat the game or something like that? Kek, if it is I don't know if Caramel is wrong about any of this, Jesus Christ.

Pretty sure everyone has figured out that trying to leave hints and clues to this stuff is just what Kojima does for fun to see people sperg out about it and that's where it ends.

>>377562624
it's the title screen the first time you boot the game up before it becomes the ACC

any sane person would of course just assume it's the title screen then because that's how the game starts, but the enlightened among us see it as more evidence for a giant ruse

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Remember when everyone was pissing their pants over MGSV and trying to piece together the masterful ruse with the head-transplant doctor, Decoy Octopus, then it turned out that 80% of the story was revealed in the trailer, the plot "twist" as obvious and was called before the game came out, and everyone was disappointed?
Why are you faggots still obsessing over Kojima? Why keep doing this to yourselves?

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>>377563486
I guess this is his chance to prove he really is the master ruser. You see, MGS V being a disappointment and leaving us with a kind of phantom pain was pretty bad, but if that was actually part of his plan all along and everything this Caramel guy is saying is true, damn.

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>from FUCKS, 2 phantoms were born
>Caramel and Venom "Punished" Caramel

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>>377564995
I don't think he was going for "bad" so much as incomplete.

>>377531949
>actual stealth fans
>every mgs game has boss battles
>stealth

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>tfw caramel ends up being right

>>377565146
Yeah, I loved the game though the plot was lacking a chapter of course. It would be good if that was just intentional and we will get MGS 5 in the near future instead of the MGS V "spin-off"

Dreaming is free though.

>>377564995
I can't believe he was going for bad, he was going for leaving the players longing for more by making the game not endlessly cinematic, not having snake talk, and not making big boss be in the game for more than 30 minutes at most. The list goes on and on and it's all been said before, but the problem lies with the fact that kojima is a terrible writer and his celebrity seems to have gone to his head where he thinks he's touching on some heavy, deep shit, when in reality he's writing at a high school level at best.

Seek help.

>>377565365
>tfw we might see that in 20 days

God, I am so fucking excited...

>>377565146
>half the game is just the same missions with higher difficulty

I kind of want to think he knows better than that

>>377565543
peace walker was great. the only thing mgsv really needed was the co-op that survive will offer.
(survive looks really good desu but nobody gives a fuck since theres no kojima)

>>377534632
Jesus Christ. Stick to conspiracy theories. You clearly don't understand business.

>>377565697
uhh what? Is this bait?

fucking co-op fags, mgsv needed an interesting story and more unique missions like GZ

>>377566105
source

>>377566159
konami via kotatu

>>377530851

You're pretty good, huh?

>>377566265
that's not how you post source

So how do we roast this fuck after e3? Its going to be hilarious when he can never show his face again around here

>>377565697
>saw latest Pythonselkan Bros analysis of DS
>they talk a bit about SurVive
>there are fucking FISH swimming in the sky (this really made me think of Kojima even though some other person might have thought of that)

Also, they talked about Bermuda's Triangle and how it may be related to PT and DS, being some kind of portal

>tfw Koji Pro trailer features Ludens walking in the depth of the ocean
>and then, in a blink of an eye, he is teleported to the moon
>tfw Ludens could be at bermudas triangle at that time

Jesus

Metal gear survive is going to be great. Day 1 buy for me

I don't like this meme