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>Despite mass amounts of marketing, Prey flopped massively

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>Despite mass amounts of marketing, Prey flopped massively

ITT: We laugh at the shills in /v/
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Why can't Arkane into sales?
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>all those shills saying its System Shock
>all of those shills that dissed bioshock
>all of them are now gone without a paycheck due to the failure of the game

feels good
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who is op quoting
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>>377529990
>mass amounts of marketing

nigga what?
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Best game of the Year in my opinion
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>Dishonored 2
>PREY

That's two strikes for Arkane. Do they get their last chance?
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>>377530345
>Millenniscums don't watch TV
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>>377529990
>mass amounts of marketing

What?
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>>377530345
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/VfvHF6ROVRvUlu8qqbzkeQ/

look at the patterns
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prey 2 when?
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>>377530345
It got a lot of marketing. Problem it was misdirected marketing that told you very little about the game and was ultimately confused on the message it was conveying.
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Good. Maybe devs will learn to actually commit to making good games rather than doing a cross between modern cancer and good games.
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>>377530345
Many people on /v/ are unable to comprehend that people enjoy different things. The only way they can understand it is assuming it's a mass corporate conspiracy.
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>>377530514
Half of those are calling it shit. Stop being paranoid.
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>>377530473
>watching television
heh... hahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA HA HA HA H AH A HA HA HA HA HA HA H A HA HA H AH A HA H A HA HA HA
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>>377529990
$13.7 million is failing? How much did the game cost?
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this shit had 0 marketing
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Let's get this over with

>post yfw you didn't fall for it
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>>377530514
you need to understand at some point people started doing reverse shilling to "counter" the real shilling. very much like actual retards taking over this site where people were pretending to be retards this became a sad reality benefiting no one in the end.
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That's not that bad desu, along with console sales it's prob approaching or already over 1mil for a '''niche''' game
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>>377530275
>all these plebs defending Bioshock
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>>377530619
"I don't watch TV" is the new "I don't have a facebook"
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>>377529990
>>>/pol/
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>>377529990
Nowadays only surprise indies make it big on PC at launch, though.
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>>377530775
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Meanwhile fucking mobageshit is actually getting mad dosh while an actual vidya is flopping, truly the worst timeline
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>>377530739
you got that reversed, buddy
I quit television way back in 2007 or something, deleted my facebook account in 2012
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>>377530739
>never had a facebook or myspace or whatthefuckever
>stopped watching tv nearly 10 years ago
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>>377529990
How many did it sell on console?

The demo and marketing seemed to cater more to them than PC players.
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>>377529990
it's a good game. I didn't buy it tho
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shame though. game is really good, another solid fps by arkane, as usual. not sure if you faggots even played it or not. pirate it, it's great.
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>be a turbojew
>only hobby is vidya
>got a €13 rule
>want to play titanfall 2, battlefield 1, watch dogs 2, prey, elite dangerous, nier auto tomata, etc.
>have to wait 2-3 years for them to drop in price
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>>377530778
Yea, most games pc games make money over time, through steam sales and whatnot
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prey is full of fps cliches everyone got bored of in the 90s
who the fuck wants to play a game on a space station
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>/v/ defended this shit left and right
>it flops

YOU FUCKS DESERVE EVERY OUNCE OF ANGUISH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>377530816
>Prey
>actual vidya
>better than mobashit
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>>377530709
Right. It probably hand broken even yet but word of mouth is good and I think after summer sales it'll be profitable.

Not giving out review copies is definitely hurting sales though.
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>>377529990
That's too bad. The game was actually pretty good.
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Their retarded review policy is fucking them in the ass
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>>377529990
>PC sales
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It's kinda sad. I thought the game was a 7/10. These kinds of games just don't sell well anymore.
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>>377530592
They really aren't though, the tone seems to be call out an issue saying it's been fixed, or backhanded compliments. It's the kind of thing I'd expect a marketer to do to keep their posts under the radar.
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>>377530739

I have honestly no fucking clue why anyone would watch TV in this day and age. The very few shows that matter you can just torrent.

TV is as outdated as the newspaper.
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>>377531101
This. Bethesda really hurt the game by forcing Arkane to name it "Prey" and by that review policy.
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>>377530823
>>377530825
>2007
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>>377531120
9/10 for me. Couldn't really complain about anything. What would you do to improve it anon?
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>>377529990
>a game reboot completely unrelated to the original doesn't perform well despite marketing and paid reviews
Wow I wonder what could have went wrong!?
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>>377531198
I'm just hyped for the new season of Twin Peaks.
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>>377529990
Well it is the blandest of the bland games. Pretty dissapointing considering it's Arkane.

I mean, who would have thought that reading infodumps and collecting crafting materials would get old fast when it's neither a good shooter nor a stealth game.
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>>377531120
Well yes, sp games that arent particularly long dont sell well when theres 100h+ open world games or f2p games that people play for 3k hours.
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>>377531289
Its not even a reboot, it was its own game and Bethesda stepped in and forced them to name it Prey because it was an IP they owned
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>>377531347
Arkane really needs to work on their storytelling to engage people who aren't creative with game mechanics and can't derive pleasure from. That's really what's holding them back and you can tell stories are not a priority for them.
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>>377530903
>elite dangerous
dont bother unless you love grinding
>near a tomato
buy at full price

pirate the rest
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>>377530345
yeah, I haven't seen a single ad. Don't watch tv though.
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>>377529990
>220k on Steam
Now add the console sales. Pretty sure it's not a flop.
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>thought about killing myself today
>see this
>delayed suicide
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>>377530275
>all those shills saying its System Shock
That's what put me off.
Because System Shock sucked.
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>>377530592
>reverse psychology
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>>377531289
>IGN gives it a 4
>paid reviews
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>>377531278
It just got a little boring as it went on. I'm mostly a story fag, so I felt that the narrative was lacking a bit. It just felt like I was being led around the station by everyone unlocking doors. Gunplay was serviceable though.
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>>377531648
it's 8 now because they got a paycheck
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a denuvo game doesnt sell? who could have seen this coming
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>>377531464
Prey was definitely a step in the right direction, especially after the snoozefests that are Dishonored's stories. They can craft a world, but I've only ever briefly cared about Daud in their games. Whenever they try a regular narrative is when things get extremely dull.
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>>377529990
That sucks (at least on consoles), the game looks pretty fun
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>>377529990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPkHZfjK5z4
Good, I wanted to be the predator hunting the prey reversing from the first game but got some guy fumbling around a spaceship with black blobs and audio logs. Normies didn't think that sounded fun either.
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>>377530635
Triple A game with the prey name long since held over, also steal gets 30% of all sales.
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>>377531648
If you read the review you would've seen it was over a bug. Which most certainly did not deserve a four point lowering of the score.

>Bethesda doesn't send pre-release copies anymore
>regular outlets can't compete with individuals who can get reviews out much faster
WHAT DO
>post a controversial score for clicks
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>>377531736
But 2butt and msg5 sold a whopping 1mil copies.
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>>377531278
Better weapon upgrades, no +5% stat bullshit.
Alternative ammo types or new firemodes unlocked via upgrades.
Or just add more weapons.
Fix the shitty sound triggers so I don't hear the 'scary sound' when I walk into a room I've already cleared.
More enemy variety. (maybe even a giant mimic that pretends to be a vending machine)
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>>377530345
They're one of those "traditional marketing is dead" companies, so they paid a bunch of youtubers twitch streamers and social media marketing firms to spam 4chan.
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>>377530903
>be a turbojew
>spend money on vidya instead of pirating it

Pick one
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>>377531863
>2butt

what?
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how will /v/ ever recover?
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I like it.
Gonna buy it when I have the money.
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>>377531464
game mechanics are average at best in prey
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>>377529990
>a system shock clone failing hard
what a shocking surprise
that's what zenimax and arkane get for what they did.
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>>377530473
>current year
>watching advertisingvision
those born in the 80s are millennials, btw
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>>377529990
My GOTY so far easily.

Amazing game.

Bring on the shill comments.
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Wasnt it really rushed according to leaks guy?
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>>377533537
Millenniscums starts at '82 the earliest and depending '82 is sometimes considered gen x.
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Yes, let's celebrate immersive sims dying all over again. Let's celebrate Arkane inevitable going the way of LFS. Let's pop open the bubbly over the dismissal of IO and the failure of the greatest Hitman game to date.

Congratulations! Now video games can be bad again!
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>>377530275
>all of those shills that dissed bioshock
i hate both prey and bioshock
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>>377533909
>immersive
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Does /v/ really judge the quality of a game based on how well it sells? You guys aren't that retarded right?
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>>377532291
nier
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>>377533909
Maybe they shouldn't have half assed it while working for Bethesda and maybe people would care. Arkane is nothing more than a poor man's Looking Glass and nothing would be lost by them disappearing.

The new Hitman also had a shitton of bad decisions. I'm not going to reward bad decision making on the off chance something good might come from it later. Doing that doesn't make anything better.
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>>377529990
>massive amounts of marketing

what? it barely had any marketing
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>>377529990
Its an above average game. I had fun
I pirated it
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why would you laugh at the shills? You know they get paid for that, they don't really have any personal stake in the game's success.

if anything laugh at bethshit those stupid cunts
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>>377534121
>blocks all ads
>doesn't watch tv
THERE WAS NO MARKETING AT ALL.
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>>377533909
>immersive sim
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Sooooo, is VtmB shit since it sold like garbage?
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>literally 2 enemy types
>boring combat
>outdated visuals, ugly gun models
>inventory management
>obvious twist
4/10
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>>377534346
yep
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>>377534346
No, it is shit because it is garbage. Maybe you hot topic emo's would know that if you ever grew up.
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>>377530775
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I remember seeing the tv commercial and thinking "This sounds like SJW trash. Fuck that shit."
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>>377534259
I'll be the last time i saw someone say immersive sim on here it was the same bethesda marketer.

He didn't have anything to reply with when people called it " a walking simulator where you can open drawers"
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I tbqgdh thought it was a reboot/re-something of the 2006 game right up until launch, until some anon told me it was closer to a ---Shock title
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>>377533909
>immersive sim
What did he mean by this?
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why did they release a bioshock mod as a $60 game?
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>>377534346
More like it's shit because it's unfinished garbage.
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>>377534648
>watching television
go to bed grandpa, staying up this late is bad for your heart
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>>377529990
>250k
>flopped
Well, its bad, but when you call flops, better look at something like DX:MD.
That is what real flop is.

From 250k they made plenty of profit after paying both indian monkeys their salaries for porting that garbage.
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>>377529990
>mass amounts of marketing
who where
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Fuck you guys this game was really good have any of you fucks even played it
It's a modern day mashup of deus ex and system shock- it's a shitton of fun and there are honestly no games quite like it that are out right now. Why are you guys so gleeful over it flopping?
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No amount of marketing could save that game.

>boring enemy designs
>awful graphics
>stupid 'its a dream/simulation' plot device
>frustrating combat and shitty sound design

This game is a 7/10 at best.
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>>377535128
I'd have liked it more if arkane didn't do that IF YOU TRY TO HAVE FUN YOU GET THE BAD ENDING shit again
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>>377534832
DX:MD made twice more tho
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>>377535052
Grats, you fell for the system
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>>377535174
>again
When did they ever do that?
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>>377535229
and its been out for almost a year and has been on sale several times
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>>377530275
Is there anything more embarrassing than being a Bioshock fan? It's the fedora of video games. Shows that you have put only the absolute basic thought possible into something.
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>Mass amounts of marketing

What the fuck?
I didn't even know what it was meant to be until I pirated it, I didn't even know arkane were involved.
The only thing I saw was a CG trailer where some guy had a bad eye.
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>>377534832
Mankind Divided sold twice as much though on PC. The reason SE said it flopped was because it flopped on PC. Despite focusing on consoles and sabotaging the PC port to encourage console sales, Deus Ex STILL sold more on PC than the PS4 and Xbox One. That just proves consolefags never gave a shit about Deus Ex and SE drastically mishandled the property. Basically a repeat of Invisible War.
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prey is a good game though

also 250k just for steam really isnt bad
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>>377535550
I meant "The reason SE said it flopped was because it flopped on console." PC sales were fine, console sales were vastly under estimates.
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>>377529990
>we heavily focused on the pc port to please the master race
>flops bigger than shit
>my sides
https://www.pcgamesn.com/prey/prey-pc-port-console-comparison
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>>377529990
Uh, maybe because we were waiting for the continuation of this?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq--yeq4ZQA

They did the same thing to Far Cry. Fucking assholes. Use a different name if it's a different game.
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>>377535495
When your only contact with the world is /v/ you won't see much of the marketing.
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>>377529990
>call it Prey
>it's actually nothing like Prey so Prey fans don't buy it
>call it a spiritual successor of SS
> it's actually much worse than SS
>SS fans don't buy it

Gee, I wonder why it's flopping.
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>>377535313
dishonored
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>>377535128
For some reason there's been a lot of shitposting about Arkane lately and a lot of people want to see Bethesda kill them. It's bizarre since Dishonored 1 got a lot of attention here, then when Dishonored 2 was revealed shitposters latched on to the studio. Prey got even more shitposting because of the whole Prey 2 controversy, even though Arkane had nothing to do with that.
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>>377535858
the only thing you got right here was that they called it Prey

>Prey (2006) fans
>implying
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>>377535872
High Chaos doesn't mean "bad ending".
And if you want your sunshine and rainbows ending, you can still murder a shitton of people.
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>>377535480
let me guess, look at your steam profile and your top played games are "hardcore games"
cs:go, tf2, dota
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>>377535872
You're a former bodyguard to the Empress trying to clear your name and regain your honor. (Hence the name of the game) You don't save the empire by killing everyone, releasing plague everywhere and spreading chaos.
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>>377534346
Bloodlines is garbage unless you apply an extensive fan overhaul that fixes it. Even then you cant fix shitty shooter segments.
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>game is called prey
>its not about hunting lolis

DROP
R
O
P
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>>377529990
>People like and want to talk about a game
>SHILLS!
I fucking hate this website
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>>377536123
sounds like a good excuse to keep you from having fun
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>>377535809
>40-70 seconds loading screens on the PS4 and longer on the Xbox
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>mass amounts of marketing
>people all around saying wtf bethesda why you don't advertise it
Well I sure do hope both kikestarter SS games will flop good.
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I didn't even know the game existed until the day it was released.

And I ended up buying it solely based on /v/'s recommendation.

And I'm glad I did cuz I like it
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>>377536278
Damn, I would have hated to played the console versions. I had the PC version of Prey installed on a SSD and the load times were like 10 seconds on average.

Kind of reminds me of Mankind Divided. Load times on consoles were ass, while it was like 10-15 seconds for me.
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>>377529990
>Already going on sale
>less than a month later
How you know a game flopped 101
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>>377535858
>prey fans
???
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you dumb faggots are gonna be hailing this as a cult classic years from now. you already do it for dishonored.
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>>377535229
>>377535550
DXMD sold 50k copies by the same period. Current numbers are irrelevant.
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>>377531379
The game has like a 30 hour campaign with 2 pretty distinct possible playthroughs.
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>>377535915
Dishonored 2 was a fucking disgrace. If Arkane had any role in that whatsoever, they deserve to flop and everyone there fired.
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>>377536202
Fuck off Ashton Kutcher you mason devil, go suck some more globalist cock
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>>377533960
>>377534259
>>377534675

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immersive_sim
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>>377535858
>Prey Fans

...Who? Seriously, I played the first Prey when it came out and while it was OK, it wasn't amazing. Hell, I bought the new Prey because it was more like SS2/Bioshock then the original Prey.
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>>377535858
>Prey fans
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What advertising? I didn't even know it came out when it was released.
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it doesn't look interesting at all

Prey is a generic name, it still was for the original name, and then they're using this game to keep the Prey IP name alive for copyright reasons, so you end up with a game that shits on the Prey fanbase, no matter how tiny it is, and it also tells you nothing about this game.

Seeing webms of Prey 2017 does nothing to me, people show how you can click on screens by shooting at a weapon and it just looks been there done that. Bioshock 2 had this with the gun that shot hacking devices, only difference is that now you aim at the button, but it's the same mechanic.

It is just an uninteresting game coming from a developer that has released some wishy washy games in recent times such as Dishonored.
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Prey was cool. Lots to explore if you turn off the objective indicator. I'm glad they didn't go to bait a sequel or anything since it definitely seems we aren't getting one.
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>>377536751
>Never watch tv or go outside or read papers and only browse internet with adblocker
>what advertising?
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>>377536670
Fuck you I loved Prey(2006)
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>>377533960
>>377534259
>>377534675
>/v/ is filled with plebs who don't know game design
this hurts
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>>377536595
Does this game have that awful dumb garbage that is the moral system of Bioshock and Dishonored? Where you're either mother theresa or stalin? I hate that garbage.
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>>377536946
immersive sim was a term made up to sell deus ex
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>>377536947
>mother theresa
bait
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>>37753150
Don't do it man, just think of all the future fuckups you'll miss out on.
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>>377535480
The problem is Bioshock only gets a bad rap because of all the bullshit that happened with Infinite's release.
It's a poor man's system shock until it became a poor man's generic fps.
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>>377536639
>>377533909
>>377536946
This game ain't immersive, it has button prompts for interacting with shit, PRESS X TO OPEN DOOR straight out of Bioshock.

So nah it clearly fails at being immersive at least on the UI front so fuck off trying to ride the System Shock and Deus Ex train with this modernized heap of trash.
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>>377535809
Do you know how many times I've heard this bullshit and it obviously being wrong? There is no reason to believe there was any special focus put into the PC version besides taking their word for it, which is a retarded thing to do.
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>>377535858

The game is based off Michael Chrichtons PREY you chimpanzee, the game PREY was garbage anyway.
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>>377529990
>its the cuck who thinks steam accounts for 100% of sales worldwide
>steam userbase literally less than total players in WOW or LOL or any major game
>thinks they speak for entire gaming community by circlejerking over shit "sales" that are fucking trash as fuck when you can buy cd keys for way less
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I'm worried. Prey looked unfun since the beginning.

But Arkane once made Dark Messiah of Might and Magic. I hope they survive to one day make another game of such quality.
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>>377537210
the thing is they have said that though, maybe not the master race like >>377535809 said
pc gamers were afraid of how the port would turn out since they don't have a good track record when it comes to pc ports. so they kept saying oh we put a lot of focus on the pc port for you guys.
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>>377536810
>Prey fanbase

stopped reading there
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Haha yes, I also hate videogames they should all fail and be bad XD
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>>377534346
vtmb was unplayable at release it should have been refunded, every copy of it
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>>377537210
Pretty much every review says it's more fun to play on PC. That and iot seems like they didn't even beta-test the PS4 version because somehow they didn't realize the game had massive input lag.
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>>377537350
Dark Messiah is grossly overrated around here. I gave it a try, found the combat to be shit, and the whole thing feels like a half assed HL2 mod, I uninstalled after 1 hour in.
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I think Arkane actually achieved something with this game - I did not know that a faithful reproduction of SS2 could result in a bad game. I thought it would be at least mediocre, but it's just plain bad.

I'd give them props for basic mimic design if it wasn't blatantly lifted from that Cruise movie.
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I really feel for OG Prey fans, and I understand if that's where a lot of the hate for the game comes from, believe me. As a big fan of looking glass and the games that came from those guys back before/after looking glass' runtime, I've been in these OG Prey fans' shoes tons of times. They didn't call dead space "System Shock 3", but thats what i was promised in the 2006 version of "dev blogs". Was a kick in the teeth, but what ds1 IS is a pretty good RE4-in-space game.

While Prey 2017 isn't perfect, it's a very, very good fpsrpg. I dunno why arkane is still making games in this dying subgenre but they've done a good job with this one apart from some obvious cut/edited content, some rushed questlines, and bugs/QoL which are supposedly being worked on.

spoilers ahead
If you think the postcredits scene was a cliche, you need to play it again or read a book or something. You honestly should have seen this coming a mile away even if you didn't take EP101 early, there is so much foreshadowing. Too much, honestly. Plus, it fits the philosophical/psychological themes in the game perfectly, and brings the Morgan character arc to a close, which is the only thing a rpg ending actually has to do.

>b-but your choices don't matter
they do change your postcredits scene, and imo they dont even have to do that to "matter". would they have mattered more if there was no post-credits scene? what about if the theory that Secret Location is another layer of sim is correct? i'd say "no", and "no". choices mattering, to me, is when your choice creates some kind of branch mid-game. feel free to disagree with that


>lmao shill
if its cool to encourage people to not buy a game cause you don't like it, then its cool to encourage people to buy a game if you do like it. y'all can dish that "shill" garbage but you throw a shitfit at the slightest hint of the inverse.
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>>377537456
>no matter how tiny it is
The point is that the name "Prey" is just generic trash, on top of being confusing because there's already an existing game called Prey. It doesn't help the game at all.
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>>377537529
I didn't liked the combat at first, but after some time I really enjoyed it. Maybe you should try for more than one hour? But of course, maybe it just isn't for you.
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>>377537452
>the thing is they have said that though
So have a ton of other devs about their console pandering games. It's a marketing tactic to sell their games better on PC and has no basis in reality 99% of the time.

>>377537521
The console versions being shit does not mean the game wasn't designed for consoles. Console development ensures that none of the versions are good.
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>>377535480
Bioshock 1 and 2 are decent enough desu.
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>>377534069
>You guys aren't that retarded right?
What do you think?
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Doesn't seem like a bad game, but I'm waiting for a ~30€ sale.
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>>377536640
>>377536670
Fuck you both, Prey (the real oneâ„¢) was awesome. I even have the original collectors tin that came with the GOTY edition. Ya know... because it was actually a critically acclaimed game. Are you BethSoft shills or something?
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>>377537692
Bethesda obviously felt the Prey name was too good to just let sit on an ok at best game from 2006.
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>>377530345
I don't get it either, I don't recall seeing a single ad for Prey except on the PSN Store page
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>>377529990

blame piracy
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>>377536810
>Prey fanbase
spotted a child. there is no prey fanbase. the game was forgotten month later after release.
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>>377537835
>Prey (the real oneâ„¢) was awesome. I even have the original collectors tin that came with the GOTY edition. Ya know... because it was actually a critically acclaimed game.
I think he's baiting
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>>377537959
If there was no fan base and no one cared about it then why the fuck would they bother to use the name?
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>>377537868
I heard they used it so the Prey IP wouldn't be free use to anybody, they should have just ported Prey 2006 to mobiles, and gave this game a proper name instead of the confusing shit they went with.

>>377537959
still means this game has a generic sounding name, might as well call a shooter "Guns"
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I didnt even know this game was coming out until a friend told me on Wednesday
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>>377538056
because suits.
>>377538107
yeah it is fucking dumb.
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Prey was good, glad I bought it.

Not the second coming of RPG Christ but it's the best one we've had in awhile
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>>377538107
or Doom or Halo
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Do you people ever go outside? I constantly saw posters at Gamestop. You don't even have to shop there, I saw them simply going by Gamestop.
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>>377538254
>2k17
>physical copies
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>>377537631
Yeah they should have had every enemy killable with a wrench on the hardest difficulty with 0 cyber modules and no damage taken. Prey's enemy design is shit in comparison. You're a bandwagoner. SS2 is an extremely flawed game, only good for its time. Half the abilities are trash, hacking minigame is terrible especially after SS1's amazing one, the character creation process is one of the most unintuitive i've ever seen in addition to barely even mattering at all, etc etc etc
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>>377529990
>mass amounts of marketing
>prey

Pick one.
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>>377535849
They only spammed the shit out of it was on ESPN, which is utterly failing as a network because it is so goddamn shitty. The only reason I knew ads aired on it was from tvs blaring at a restaurant I went to.
http://fortune.com/2016/10/31/espn-subscribers/

People who have satellite are dropping the sports conglomerates like crazy, mainly because they realized a good bulk of the monthly bill was to pay for sports rights, while they aired terrible coverage of games and had idiots on talk shows most of the time.

So marketing was an utter flop. More random channels had shit like Mankind Divided on it (my father likes Blade Runner and asked me about it when he saw the commercial on FX), which makes that game's failure even worse.
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>>377536227

Does getting a less than ideal ending prevent you from having fun? I've never understood this argument. If you want to use all of Dishonored's crazy lethal powers, what is stopping you from using them?
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>Game that doesn't have the brand power of Doom or even Dishonored

>Bethesda pulls the "kek, no review copies before launch cause we're super special flakes like that. Potential buyers don't need to know if it's good. It's called Prey! Like that other game!"

Bethesday really needs to stop sabotaging their own games.
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The only sincere problem i have with the game is all the npc voices sound like they're recorded in a closet.
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>>377529990
I liked it faggot.
It was only like $35 on Ruskie key sites too.
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>>377538254
I live in a pretty well populated area but there is only one gamestop and it is 7 miles out of my way. There were quite a few commercials for it especially on adultswim which is about all the tv I watch.
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>>377538056
Because Bethesda was sitting on the name, the IP. They had a time limit and if they did not use it by that time, they would have to either pay for the IP again or give it up.

Arkane came to them and said "Hey, we have this sci-fi game that will be a spiritual successor to games like the Shock series, but different. Like Dishonored to Thief."

To which Bethesda gave them the green light and agreed to provide funds to publish it, but only if they called it Prey.

I feel a good portion of Arkane's issues stem from Bethesda pressure.
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>>377538456
>SS2 is an extremely flawed game, only good for its time. Half the abilities are trash
It's certainly a bit of a step down from 1, but it's a perfectly reasonable title that obviously ran out of money towards the end. It's still a solid 8.5/10.

Abilities that are useless are always a good thing, it encourages you to at least think about where you're putting your modules.
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Are you guys actually happy about Prey "flopping" or just memeing?
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gaming is dead

VR was never even alive and wont be

remove this board and lets kill ourselves desu, real world is too shit to endure

I'll try going back to pen and paper rpgs and if it doesnt work out the consequences will never be the same
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>>377538649
>2017
>Still buying games based on "professional" reviews and scores
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>>377538967
I'm butthurt about it tbqh.
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>>377538649
>actually make a pretty good game for once
>don't send review copies so it looks like they know it's dogshit and they're hiding it
What was the plan here?
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>>377536947
Well BioShock 2 had a decent morality system since there were two main variables and a neutral ending.
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>>377538880
This is very likely. It's worth noting that we knew about the SS2 shit literally 3 years ago, so real prey fans were NOT blindsided by arkane's prey game. Anyone saying that is a shitposter, should've complained 3 years ago and you didn't.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Prey-2-Design-Documents-Leak-Confirm-It-s-a-System-Shock-2-Successor-from-Arkane-444611.shtml
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>>377538775
It's 35 bucks on amazon too.

It dropped pretty fast.
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>>377538649
Doesn't Zenimax make a point to sabotage their smaller studios for some stupid reason?
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>>377538967
Both 4hchan and 8ch /v/ are centered around being negative about games and shitting on everything as the main pastime.
Youre essentially are driven to reddit to talk about games you like.
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>>377538223
Doom does make sense and stands out, all the hell imagery and themes in the series, and Halo is tied to the ring/halo of the franchise. Both names tell a lot more about the each franchise than "Prey" does to this. What's it about, you're preying on the aliens, or they're the prey? It tells me nothing about what the game is about.
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>>377529990
>killing off Prey 2 in an attempt to buy out Human Head didn't pay off

You should all be celebrating.
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>>377539142
>danielle used to be actually DANielle SHO instead of forced lesbian
>they cut out monkeys
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>>377536947
Of course. You have 2 choices, blow up the station and kill dozens of innocent survivors, or use the magic bomb and save everyone. There's also 2 bonus endings, where you either flee by yourself in an escape pod, or murder every single person on the station with your bare hands.

None of it matters anyway, because the whole game is just a simulated test to see if you can empathise with humanity, because you're actually just an alien. Everything you did is meaningless, and you get a final choice between killing everyone or shaking hands.
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MASS EFFECT 3 flopped - pretty much the end of AAA RPGs other than CDPR releasing one game per 4 years, no willing publishers

PREY and DISHONORED 2 flopped - pretty much over for AAA single player fps, no willing publishers

MMOs dead for years now

only weebshit and indieshit is still alive and it will be even worse
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>>377539457
its almost like the destination isn't as important as the journey

its almost like watching the endings on youtube isn't the same thing as playing the game
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>>377538967
when people suck a games dick, and praise it non stop.it will sell your just a h8er. Yea I love to see it flop
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I didn't even realize this was a new game

I would scroll by thread all the time, I always assumed it was one of those games from forever ago that PC people still play for some reason, like payday or killing floor
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>>377539497
>Niche weebshit is alive you guys because I meme about it on 4chins
lolno
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>>377539632
>instead of playing video games i'll lurk /v/ and shit on everything people like
This is the future we chose
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>>377529990
>someone opens a Prey thread saying that the game is good
>people in the thread actually discuss what they liked and disliked being quite civilised
>other tell anecdotes of situations were they could do a thing because the complexity of the game let them
>FUCKING SHILLS RRREEEEEEEE

Also I've seen far more threads shitting on the game than praising it. Probably made by people that doesn't even like the genre or thinks that all the games in them are as bad as Bioshock Infinite.
You fucks will make any excuse to avoid playing something you might actually like or just are bored enough to shit on it anyways.

As far as I can tell this game barely had any marketing or any hype, it wasn't presented as something to get hyped in any conference or big announcement. The only thing I saw about it in a big event was when it was revealed and that was just quite a meh teaser.
You just feel good bullying the few people that played it don't you.
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>>377538456
But unlike Prey it has atmosphere and is actually a scary game. Playing Prey is just going through the motions.
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Prey was actually a fun game, I'll buy it when it's like $30
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>>377539769
>I am so out of it I don't even know what is new anymore.
Put down the drugs, bro. This is your intervention.
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>>377539868
Shilling is the most detrimental meme to videogame discussions.
Anyone saying something positive gets called a shill.
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>>377538967
hope this shitty company dies for employing shills to fuck up the board
they also just release normie casual garbage nu-game walking sim no difficulty shit like dishonored

game is generic aaa tripe
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>>377539103
>>377539457
It's shit, moral choices are much more nuanced than HURR GOOD HURR BAD.

You see a bunch of money dropping from a man's back pocket, he doesn't realize he dropped it, it's just you and him so nobody around to grab it and it's a lot of money, what do you do? At least three possibilities

>you tell him he dropped his money
>you ignore his money
>you pocket his money

At least three choices in this simple example, the middle one is arguably also a bit bad because you could've helped him but chose to be indifferent to his possible troubles. Games with this dualistic moral system ignore the fact that when it comes to moral choices, you actually have many of them, sometimes you have multiple evil choices, just as there are different levels of wickedness to people, you have people who just murder, you have people who torture then murder, you have people who torture, murder, and then taunt the family of the victim with calls, and so on.

This GOOD EVIL 2 moral choices is terrible and overly simplified. It was terrible in Bioshock, Bioshock 2, Dishonored and still is fucking simplistic garbage if it's in Prey 2017.

Moral choices are much more nuanced and varied than 1 good choice, 1 evil choice.
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>>377529990
Anyone convinced that most of the shitposting is done by bitter Nintendo fanboys whom have lowered standards and no intention of buying these games?

They are the only miserable fucks that I've seen in person, the same people who will try to sell you a Switch on your deathbed promising it brings you to the afterlife.
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>>377539910
>is actually a scary game
i dunno, maybe i've played it too many times but i can't remember a time ss2 scared me. its campy as hell.
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>>377529990
it looks good too bad i am not willing to waste 60 dollars.
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>WOOOW PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT A NEW GAME IT MUST BE PAID SHILLS!!!!!!!!


you people are BEYOND fucked.
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Watched boogie play it. It only seemed meh like most games today. Definitely felt like a walking sim just like this years RE.
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>>377539592
I didn't even mind the journey, but most of it was just so clear-cut. A game that was more morally ambiguous would have been more interesting.

I also think the concept of putting the player in the shoes of an alien experiencing what it is to be human is just fundamentally misguided. I know it's far too much to expect from shit writers, but it would have been more interesting to see an alternative perspective, make the main character a human who has been thrust into a completely alien physiology to try and make sense of it all. Maybe the aliens are only killing people because that's how their species communicates.
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>>377539497
>MASS EFFECT 3 flopped
>PREY and DISHONORED 2 flopped
>MMOs dead for years now

This is a problem how?
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>>377529990
the fuck are you talking about, there was close to no marketing and zero hype because Bethesda doesn't release copies for reviews until the final day before launch

Prey is the best example this year of a game hurted by poor marketing.
Also, sales figures are not too bad given it's coming after the disaster that was Dishonored 2 on pc, the game is selling on consoles and will continue to sell for a while since it's more of sleeper hit.
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>>377535480
Being a nu-Prey fan
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>>377540281
>Watched boogie play it

Kill yourself
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>>377540140
Entertainment stops being scary after you're 12. If you originally play or watch something after you're 12 you'll never see it as ever being scary.
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>>377539985
nah man, Its just so fucking generic looking I assumed it was from last gen
muh space scientist on a ship with spooky aliums!
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>>377530775
How is this /pol/? Is is because the main character is asian?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EZNr0TyimU
>this terrible UI
>Press X to ______ everywhere
>when attacking with the wrench, Press X to stop swinging
>enemy red arrow markers telling you where they are
>multiple location markets

This UI is more casualized than Bioshock's. Who designed this shit, Ubisoft?

Just fuck my immersion up senpai
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>>377540281
>Watched boogie play it.
>Definitely felt like a walking sim
Kill yourself or go back to 9gag
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>>377540628
>he doesn't know how to turn off the hud on a pc game
just end it now
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>>377540525
>Games didn't look generic before last gen, anon.
Are you sure you aren't on drugs?
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>>377540281
>watched
>that fat slob of all people
It's cracked, you can play it. The fuck is your problem, do you even video games?
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>>377540628
this
looks like generic ubisoft AAA trash
why the fuck would a self-respecting /v/goer play this? no way anyone talking about this positively isn't a shill
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>>377540525
>nah man, Its just so fucking generic looking I assumed it was from last gen
>muh space scientist on a ship with spooky aliums!
Yeah, we have a ton of these games, right?
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Is there a full soundtrack release yet, with all the songs? Including the song that plays for that in-game band?
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i'm so fucking tired of the shill meme

it started with bullshit /pol/cusations (do you really, REALLY believe that CTR ever spent ANY time trying to astroturf on fucking 4chan, of all places? instead of one of the many websites with hundreds of times the users that's hundreds of times easier to foist discussion upon? and that they're STILL doing it?) and it's PLAGUED discussion of any remotely divisive topic ever since. did you like game X? shill. did you not like game Y? clearly shilling for competing game Z. do you think company 7 is fucking themselves by doing a certain thing? no shut up, you're just a company 8 shill.

fuck anyone that's ever accused someone on a fucking anonymous internet shitpost repository of shilling; you're human garbage and i do not respect any opinions you might hold.

prey's a decent game that had a shitty advertising campaign. it's a little bland, and enemy variety is lacking. the nightmare's too stupid and too weak to really play the role it's meant to in-game. the recycling system, while novel, lets you just transmute whatever you have too much of into whatever you need, trivializing resource management.

i swear to god i'm going to get cancer from this website.
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>>377540898
we do
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>>377540980
>do you really, REALLY believe that CTR ever spent ANY time trying to astroturf on fucking 4chan, of all places?

NEW

FAG
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>>377540687
>Barely has any action in the game.
>This totes not a walking sim.
>kys or gb2/9gag/
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>>377540793
>why the fuck would...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_fools
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>>377541001
Name 3 in the last 10 years
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>>377537959
I liked Prey.
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>>377540980
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>>377540980
>i swear to god i'm going to get cancer from this website.

if you don't then you're using it wrong you fucking casual
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>>377541118
i mean, not him, but dead space 1
dead space 2
dead space 3
sorry
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>>377530993
or releasing broken games and how that one IGN reviewer gave it a 4
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>>377540980
>do you really, REALLY believe that CTR ever spent ANY time trying to astroturf on fucking 4chan, of all places?
even though we have their dossier detailing exactly how to disrupt discussions on 4chan

or rather, how they THOUGHT they could disrupt discussions around here, which never worked because they had no idea the kind of depraved fucking weirdos go on here
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>>377540786
I don't even video games. I have a hard time finding anything I like enough to play.
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Pretty simple. Normies make up the majority of gamers, normies also don't play good games.
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>>377534098
>The new Hitman also had a shitton of bad decisions.

Stop saying this. Hitman2016 is fucking awesome . Only bad decision was that fucking always on thing
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I didn't know a new Prey was coming out until it was already out
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>>377529990
The game looks like it's somewhat scary and there is no demo to test it so I'm not wasting my money on it.
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>>377530739
No? I can't replace facebook without the hassle by streaming it online. Literally only going in and choosing the shows you want to watch and then watching only those is the sensible thing.
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>>377541293
Which is a really bad decision. That and the episodic bullshit.
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>>377541212
No space scientists there mate
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>/v/ hates every new game but loves old PC games
>new game comes out that's similar to the old ones
>/v/ shits all over it
really made me think

>>377541051
>Barely has any action in the game.
But that is completely false you fucking idiot, stop lying
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>>377529990
>denuvo game
>flopping

COLOR
ME
IMPRESSED
.
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>>377529990
please.......fuck off
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>>377540505
To be fair, I'm pretty sure if I played Prey and SS2 right after one another at the age of 12, in either order, I would think they were about as scary as each other, both be atmospheric, and the scariest enemy would be the Mimic. I can't see it going down any other way. Prey's dynamic music is the equivalent of a chronic premature ejaculator though and that is a huge problem for its immersion, I'll admit.
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>>377540756
I haven't played it in case you didn't notice, and this kind of shit I mentioned is why I don't feel like pirating this game.
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>>377530946
>who the fuck wants to play a game on a space station
Spacemen.
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>>377541396
>new game comes out that's similar to the old ones
More like new game comes out that's a cobbled together pastiche of the old games and shitty modern trends.
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>>377529990
If the threads are made by paid shills then I'm fucking glad they do it. At least it's a thread about a fucking video game instead of yet another LOL or filename thread or another flimsy excuse to post porn and talk about politics.
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>>377541392
technically a fair point but there's not much difference between a space scientist and a space engineer, they're just shooty-guys with the knowledge to press buttons and pull levers real good.
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>>377529990
/v/ would be all over this game's dick if it weren't for the title

normies would still avoid it though
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>>377541392
I think I recall there being a space scientist in at least one of them and they did the cliche thing where you couldn't get to him in time to help you.
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>>377541571
you can turn off the hud in every arkane pc game you nugget
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>>377541601
>shitty modern trends
alright name them. Because late 90s/early 2000s were not the fucking pinnacle of video games like you fucks think and not everything new is cancer. What is wrong with using old school gameplay (a good thing) and adding good graphics, better UI, etc? You're literally just hipsters and nothing else
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>>377541396
Nice memespouting kiddo, many on /v/ liked Doom 2016, Nier Automata, Yakuza 0, Persona 5, Breath of the Wild, all games released this year or last year.
Now you can fuck off.
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>>377539952
Wouldn't be surprised if this would be 2017's slow burner. Shame games are still considered successes or flops based on pre-orders and day 1 purchases. I haven't even gotten round to Dishonored 2 which I bought on release day.
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>>377531198
So you have something to talk about at the watercooler at work. Everyone here are gainfully employed, fully functional members of society right?
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>>377541732
No, /v/ hates it because Arkane (popular) and Bethesda (super popular). Every other argument I saw was completely false and misinformed
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>>377541864
>Nice memespouting kiddo, many on /v/ liked Doom 2016, Nier Automata, Yakuza 0, Persona 5, Breath of the Wild, all games released this year or last year.
And many of /v was and are still shitting on them
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>Arkane's last game ran like dogshit on PC
>Prey has no demo on PC
yea I wonder why people didn't jump in this game
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>>377541846
Having icons clutter your screen isn't a better UI.
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>>377541864
Why does /v/ have such shit taste?
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>>377529990
Good I'm glad.

The sooner video games die, the better.
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>>377531969
No they're no, the game was on the inside cover of NME you idiot.
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If The Evil Within gets a sequel of all games I'm pretty sure Arkane Prey will be safe and sound
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>>377541964
/v/ doesn't hate the developer who made Arx Fatalis and Dark Messiah, shitbird. I'll talk shit about Magical Ninja Superhero games pretending to be stealth games all day long but I've never seen anyone here diss Arkane.
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>>377529990
I think the game is pretty good. I don't get where the hate comes from.
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>>377542028
>icons and screen clutter are a modern trend
now i have heard every fucking thing. here's your reply
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>>377534512
You're not better than any of them desu senpai
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>>377542452
I'll be the first for you then: Dishonored is an okay-mediocre game, only level design is done well, combat is trash and stealth feels barebones, Dark Messiah is also grossly overrated around here, it really has a shitty combat system. Never played Arx Fatalis or Dishonored 2 so can't judge those. Arkane seems to have a thing for making mediocre games from what i've played from them.
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>>377542028
shut the fuck up

>>377542532
fucking THIS. If anything, old games had much more shit in the UI
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>>377542662
Well Dishonored is pretty crap. They should have made it into a stealth game. You shut your whore mouth about kick simulator not being great though.
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>>377540061
I'd argue the Dishonored series has moral ambiguity based on non-lethal decisions.

For instance in the first game, some nonlethal choices are brutal. Like the twins, the nonlethal choice was to shave their heads, cut out their tongues, and be forced to work in their own mines for eternity. Whereas the other option is a quick assassination. In the party level, your target is knocked out and given to a man who is obsessed with her to a creepy extent, who plans to imprison her in his home.

Same with some stuff in 2. Jindosh the scientist you could either kill mercifully or make into a bumbling retard, who is still very aware he used to be a genius. Wouldn't simply assassination be less cruel?

You can have 2 decisions and still have a feeling of agency in the game. Witcher does this extensively, showing how binary choices can have ambiguity
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>>377541910
yeah and most people just use their laptops mate
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>>377529990
I can't remember the last time I bought a single-player story driven game at its full price. I'll eventualy buy and play this, along with the new Tomb Raider, but vidya industry's new state changed me so I can't convince myself to pay 60 fucking dollars on a new game if it's not replayable like BF1, Civ 6 or OW.

Don't hate me, hate the jewery that is vidya industry.
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>>377535651
Can we please now admit that console players just want to shoot random things and maybe race cars?
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>>377541041
been wasting my life here for more than ten years, fuck off

>>377541238
>muh sekret dossier
let me guess, it's a screenshot of an email? boy oh boy, that's as legitimate as it gets! it's not as though html is easily edited by a chimpanzee, right? we sure are redpilled as fuck, not falling for (((their))) lies, right?

if you take anyone on this website at their word, you deserve to be fooled like the gullible fuck you are
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They should've called it Psycho Shock or something like that, because it's basically System Shock 3, instead they have triggered Prey 2 (which looked like garbage, by the way) babbies and of course, /v/, ignorant contrarians clinging to old shit to fit in.
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>>377542935
I have never owned a laptop. Have most people even owned a laptop?
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It was okay. Still wish it wasn't called "Prey", but then I'd probably just ignored it because of modern beth.
Calling it "next System Shock" is stretch of course, especially since it has less depth than Bioshock, still, I was genuinely surprised how much I enjoyed it. There is a lot of thing that need work, like lack of weapons and alt. ammo, lack of enemy variety and their utter harmlessness, maybe expand Talos a bit (it does seems like a real place, I give devs credit for it). Also it could use a bit less PC shit, like chief of security and some of the guards being negresses (I mean is 2035 or whatever, so come on people, maybe they can not act like chimps) or that lesbian couple, there could be any other story in its place, but devs chose to put a gay love story.
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>>377533909
>the failure of the greatest Hitman game to date.

They did it to themselves by making it episodic with unnecessary always online DRM -on top of- Denuvo. Meanwhile Absolution, despite being cracked and pirated on day 1 sold nearly 3x as many copies. I love the latest Hitman evenmorso than Blood Money but there was no way I was going to pay anywhere near full price for an single-player game that I can't even own and it relies on an always online connection to play properly. That shit deserved to fail.
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>>377542814
>Buy Dishonored 2
>enjoy it
>pirate Prey
>enjoy it

/v/ is consistently wrong about everything.
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>>377543148
I stopped using table top PC's since 2008 or something similar.
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It's on PS4 and XBONE you retard where it probably sold 10x more combined.
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>>377542915
Pretty much.
Dishonored choice weren't really moral choices in the sense people see it. It's not about how nice you're to the target since every outcome is bad. It's what happens to the city, more corpses more rats, more disease, more dead. But nothing you do is morally right.
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>>377530426
both are good games

do you know how strikeouts work?
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>>377543252
I never said Dish 2 was shit. I never played it. I'm a fucking meganerd for stealth games and I ain't fucking with what faggots consider to be stealth these days.
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>>377543148
I haven't talked to a normal bloke or girl who didn't own one
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>>377542814
>should have made it into a stealth game.
You can stealth or rampage, not really following you. Sometimes I'd replay missions going full-on assault, sometimes not.

Since when did it become trendy to shit on flexible gameplay choices?
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>>377543052
>if you take anyone on this website at their word
Except you obviously
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>>377543314
irl you usually don't get a third chance to screw up thus >Do they get their last chance?
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>>377543378
>never played it
>shits on a game mechanic he never experienced.

Why even waste time typing? The stealth is fine compared to pretty much any other modern stealth if you don't play on easy.
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>>377542915
It's just a mockery of decisions when you have those either kill or spare, you could do so many things, games like Fable where your choices are help the poor villagers or butcher them, this is a mockery of moral choices that Dishonored and Bioshock games also do. If you want a morality system, at least come up with something substantial rather than this binary crap.

Moral choices unlike genders aren't limited to 2, you can keep a person alive and destroy his reputation or kill him in 100 different ways that differ in efficiency and sadism. You can also help a person in 100 different ways, some to also promote yourself like posing for pictures when you're at a charity, or do it without people knowing, again 2 choices is just an extremely simplified moral choices system, it's the bare minimum of the bare minimum. It's making a shooter with a melee weapon and a gun, it's shallow.

That DnD moral system where you have multiple kinds is more like it, having only 2 choices is too limiting for me and not a good moral system at all. I mean if you're going to make one, why make it so limited and boring, you're either a saint or the most evil person? This is dumb on so many levels.
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>>377543287
No Xbone/PS4 version has sold 10x more combined while being released simultaneously on PC
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>>377543649
He was talking about Dishonored 1 which he played, not 2 which he didn't play. You jumped to conclusions by mentioning 2 in the first place.
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>>377543176
Danielle's plot was chopped to bits multiple times and moved from deep storage/lobby/crew to a single forced mainquest segment in only crew quarters probably cause playtesters failed to handle an objective spanning multiple decks with no objective marker. It ruins her character arc but you can still kind of piece what they were going for together if you scrounge the ship for every bit of Sho log and email. The specific stuff they decided to shove into crew quarters makes the whole thing feel very forced and stupid but I have a feeling that's because of cutcontent or, more specifically, just the way they edited the mission structure for the final "cut" of the game.

Like why didn't Sho just re-enter an airlock? I'd say it's cause the original quest had Alex lock down the ship during that scene. Also why is Sho still alive 2, 3, 10, infinity gameplay hours later to tell you about Subject 37? It's all fishy, I say.
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>>377543257
>table top PC's
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>>377542662
I stand by what I said about Dark Messiah, the combat of that game is fucking terrible, and the game was scripted sequences out of the ass with the town attack, while looking like a glorified Half-Life 2 mod.
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>>377543252
You are /v/ just as much as anyone else here so congrats on admitting you are consistently wrong about everything
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>>377543798
>>377543798
meant to >>377542814
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>>377543671
>You can also help a person in 100 different ways
Sure you can. But you can't write, program, design and voice act 100 different ways. Choices are already a big problem when developing games since you're wasting resources for 2 things while the average player will only ever experience one. Adding more choices is simply financially not feasible for most AAA games.
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>>377543671
It isn't a morality system as >>377543308 states, nor is it simplistic as Bioshock.

But you can kill Jindosh in so many ways. Behead his own clockwork soldier which kills him in a frenzy. Sneak up on him without him aware you ever entered his mansion. Slit his throat. Shoot him. Lure him to a place where you have a switch and can have his moving walls crush him. There is a video on YouTube titled "80 ways to kill Jindosh"
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>>377543649
Dude. You can't even tell if you're hiding in shadows. There's no stealth mechanic at all. It's a fucking ninja superhero game, not a stealth game.
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>weebs assblasted about anything that isn't supernormal stimulii from japan shitpost 24/7 about western games
zzzzzzzz
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>>377541964
>Arkane (popular)
wew lad
>Every other argument I saw was completely false and misinformed
Irony
>>377543798
Everything you said is completely wrong and misinformed you only hate Dark Messiah because it's made by Arkane who is popular.
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>REEEEEE IT FLOPPED
>still top seller on steam
>still very positive
Lmaoing at obsidiots and rpg codex grogs.
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>>377543539
what claims am i making, anon? point out to me where i'm saying anything that requires the slightest bit of blind faith on your part.

oh, you can't? because i'm not purporting to be someone i'm not? that's crazy, anon.

pull your head out of your own asshole and stop being such a fucking sucker.
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>>377544075
I _guarantee_ you everyone assblasted about prey was shilling games like nier or persona

know thine 4chanian enemy
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>>377544054
>another bloated western game flops
>blames muh weebs

lol
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>>377544196
>b-b-bbut the western boogeyman
yup, shibbolethed a weeb
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>>377543969
Then do not include moral choices if it's going to be so shallow. If it's going to be half-assed, it's better to not have it at all.

>>377544034
I didn't play Dishonored 2, I'm talking about the first game and the game makes it pretty clear in the end that your choices affect the girl's moral compass. If you murder a lot she becomes a ruthless ruler. Sounds like evaluating the player choice to me.
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>>377531198
People that regularly watch TV now are 45+
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>>377529990

My levels of fucks to give are at 0.01%, that PR3Y sold like shit.

>It's like system shock!

I knew this shit was odd; who the fuck on /v/ would defend and praise a game, by comparing it to a better game? If it is a good game, then it's a good game that can stand on its own. That's just giving yourself away as newfag or worse, a shill. That's just shitting the bed. Instead of playing a copy that tries to be better than the original JUST PLAY THE ORIGINAL. Copies cannot be better than what they are mimic'ing, simply because you can only do it first once.
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>>377537224
>Michael Crichton's Prey novel came out in 2002
>Original Prey game was in development as far back as 1996
>Crichton's typical "mankind playing God" storyline and backfiring with nanobots in a desert
>vs le hostile aliens, the alien mothership and aliens on a space station
>[Citation Needed]
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>>377530275
sure as absolute FUCK seems more interesting than bioshock infinite

bioshock infinite is literally a CoD campaign for waifu hipster faggots
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>>377544053
Yes you can, Crack in the Slab when you have no powers makes this very apparent with lighting and AI noticing you.

In the garden where you knock out the mine owner to change time, I could hang to a wall illuminated and be spotted. On the opposite side if I stuck to the shadows the same guard never noticed me.

There are whale oil and wind powered spotlights that will shoot canons at you if the light picks you up.

I played on hard and the hardest difficulty, maybe things are different in easy. But you can definitely tell where the shadows are
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>>377530473
>>377530619
>>377530739
>literally paying to watch ads when you can st ream any show, with zero ads for free

How cucked can you be?
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>>377544262
man why even put a gun in your game if you're not gonna put controls in for the slide, the firing pin, etc.

you can load a gun in so many different ways than just pressing R and watching a little cutscene. if it's going to be half-assed, it's better to just have every weapon be a baseball bat.
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>>377544158
>4chanian enemy
t. 4chan poster using 4chan reaction image memes
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>>377530275
>Dissed Bioshock

The series is a rotten cancer after 2.
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Never heard of it until I walked into gamestop and saw it in the way of what I actually wanted.
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>New prey announced in 2018
>It's another reboot
>Made by id
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>>377529990
Thank fuck. Developers shoukd keep making quality games like assassin's creed, call of duty, Fifa, Madden, 2k, killzone 13, battlefield, the show, uncharted, final fantasy, nsmb rather than testing interest in other areas
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>>377544271
I watch tv and am not even 40.
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>>377544257
>western development is now a boogeyman
>stuttering greentext
>retarded insufferable emoji

muh weeb boogeyman lol
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>>377529990
Because it's boring. They messed up perfectly good System Shock clone with... "Art Deco" art style, boring enemies and whatever. Who haven't seen a mysterious space station taken over by hostile force and you, the hero, is going to find what happened to your past by following mysterious stranger who calls you now and then and by picking up audio logs etc.

It's just boring and I personally hate the stupid art style too. It has great interaction with the world though and lot of potential.
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>>377544614
>"b-but muh sekrit club for gigalosers lyke me!" weeb assblasted by modern 4chanian posting

that really wew'd my lads
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>>377544074
>Arkane is popular
LOL no

Ubisoft is popular, EA is popular, Rockstar is popular, Nintendo is popular, Bungie is popular, Activision is popular, Minecraft is popular, Blizzard is popular, Square Enix is popular, Capcom is popular. Arkane is pretty damn niche compared to many vidya companies. Nobody ever heard of Dark Messiah, Dishonored was their big title and that's it.

Quit trying to force the "/v/ hates popular games/companies meme", it just sounds desperate how you want to deflect criticism with this dumb meme.
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You're not special /v/, everyone hates Bethesda. Good job shitting on good games yet again. Don't worry though, you'll be allowed to talk praises about it later, just like with D44M.

Now go play in your shit playground, calling out shills. You're the best at it.
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>>377544262
You can assassinate every one of the targets or use the Heart to decide which NPCs to kill and still get Low Chaos ending.

It isn't as simple as you think. Besides, if your father killed every single threat to you and went on a rampage, isn't it narratively realistic to think that would affect the child, especially if said child is given an empire to rule at 10 years old?
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>>377544262
It's not halfassed, it's limited. And you're simply being retarded now. If we never did things that we can't "do properly" we would be at the stone age. Progress is done through small steps. Developer and writer get better at it, next game will have better choices. The next one even better. It's subtle but it improves.

And why just limit it to moral choices? Cars? Why when there is no steering wheel, switching gears, clutch, break, gas, hand break, blinker, heating controls and radio?
Why add anything if you're not going all in?
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>>377544530
Call of Duty hasn't been quality since the very first game and it's sequel.
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Honestly 227k could be alright depending on the game's budget.

I doubt it is however. Game looked smaller scale but still seems like an AAA title.
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>>377544279
you assume that people are claiming that this game is "great" and they're not. I just think this is better than 95% of AAA games and deserves to be recognized for that. It is not as influential and important as SS2 or Deus Ex but it's not as braindead as most AAA games. I just don't see where all the hatred for it comes from and I'm convinced it's all just hipsters and contrarians
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>>377543767
I agree that her plot was probably fucked by playtesting and "streamlining" of some sort, but I think you're looking at Danielle not going back through the airlock wrong.Since the entire game is a reconstruction of Morgan's memories through a typhoid, you could argue that Danielle's missions were merely meant to test the morality of a creature that was previously perceived to have none until it was engineered to be partially human. Risking your very valuable life to help someone that appears to be slowly dying, among the many that already happened on the station, would be a good test of that
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>>377544791
1 > MW > blops > 2

2 was okay
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>>377544435
because reloading and turning the gun safety on/off adds doesn't add as much gameplay value compared to giving you a myriad of choices of how to handle decisions in a game and how they affect the world/characters around you

By the way a game called Receiver has everything you mention about gun detail autism.
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>>377544368
I prefer watching it at a good res without worrying about frivolous lawsuits.
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>>377544120
If you're not making any claims like how CTH never came to 4chan or that the proof isn't real then why are you even arguing? Why try to deny it?

>pull your head out of your own asshole and stop being such a fucking sucker.
by your very own logic I would be a sucker to believe anything you have to say. Your head is so far up your own ass I'm suprised you haven't suffocated yet
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>>377530739
>>377530823
>>377530825
>>377531198
>>377541340
>>377544368
>>377544936
>look at how much of a special snowflake shut in gigaNEET i am

>WORSHIP MY INABILITY TO SOCIALIZE
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>>377544807
They didn't make the game for PC sales, buddy.
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>>377545056

12 btw
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>>377544716
>stuttering greentext strawman
IImagine being so buttblasted over the failure of a western game you complain about boogeymen while literally crying bitch tears over muh weeb '4chanian' boogeymen on 4chan
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>>377544846
If I was that alien-human I'd be looking at her with the most confused, quizzical look, just like I was, at my screen, when she insinuated that she was going to die. Or why she is monitoring 37's bracelet somehow from outside but had Abigail's death confirmed only when you knocked on the window. It just reeked, even on a casual playthrough. A sim is supposed to be convincing, I don't see that as a good defense. It would've tugged my typhon heartstrings if I understood why she was in danger, instead it just made me confused like I'd missed the boat on something.
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>>377529990
>been out a few days
>hasn't sold a billion units

calm down

>marketed massively

really? I don't recall seeing any ads.
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>>377545056
But he is right. The average age of people who have cable and satellite subscriptions is around 60 years old.

Even acquaintances of mine who aren't NEETS and have never heard of this Mongolian throat singing imageboard cut the cord.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2014/09/05/tv-is-increasingly-for-old-people/?utm_term=.d70cc25195c0
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>>377544791
No. And far cry, Neptunia, Pokemon, atelier, street fighter, watch dogs, mafia, dead rising, warcraft expansions are also good quality titles developers should focus on rather than checking for interest in other games.
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>>377545110
People can only shitpost about PC sales since there's no official report on console sales yet.
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>>377538107
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Pirated it, got bored with it pretty quickly, deleted it. Same for Nier Automata, they weren't bad games, they just bored me.
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>>377544927
Yeah I know and each of those controls, I would argue, adds more gameplay than the third, fourth, fifth, or hundredth voice line response recorded just in case the player character kicks alex in the balls and then throws a recycler charge out the window. I think we differ here.
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>>377544728
Thanks for making my point for me. I mocking the other anon in that reply if you couldn't tell
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>>377529990
the game isn't even that bad dude come on just give a rent at least
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>>377544845
>I just think this is better than 95% of AAA games and deserves to be recognized for that.

Wrong-o buddy, bigly. A video game is still a video game, regardless of whom, where or how much was spent making it. It should be held to the same standard of all current, past and future games, that's how we can ever hope to come to a sensible scale of measure.

I cannot go into detail about why it's bad simply because I haven't played it nor do I wish to. When it's on sale for $10 or less I'll let you know in a more detailed post but what I'm reading here, and online paints the same picture. A game that isn't great, but not bad is just plainly average, right?

A 5/10 then

Not a bad score, not a good score. But this is wholly subjective, since I could avoid "average" games and only play good ones. I don't want to spend $60 on an average gaming experience. My wallet speaks volumes for me.
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>>377529990
>Autists who think their are actual shills for prey
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>>377541361
That was decided by the fucking people that fired them. Publishers are fucking trash
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>>377545289
>I haven't played it
>writes multiple posts with multiple paragraphs criticizing it

And your opinion is valuable over those who have played...how?
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>>377544749
So she's fine with some murder I guess? You can murder like 10 people but 50 it's too much for her to handle?

>>377544753
Moral choices were already done in many games before Dishonored 1 and better, this is nothing new at all, and the way they're made in Dishonored is much simpler. Your argumentation from progress is deeply flawed because it ignores this reality. They're not pioneers of anything at all, which is why it does feel half assed.
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>>377544279
yeah, fuck thief 2 lmao, what a garbage game
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>>377545351
>Autists who deny there are actual shills for Prey
Reminder that Bethesda is the only major games company to ever successfully DMCA a 4chan post because of an in game screenshot
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>>377545449
>And your opinion is valuable over those who have played...how?

I have been playing video games for 27 years, I use words to earn my income and I'm a certified anime pro.
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>>377530345

I saw it on the TV in a bowling alley like the day it came out and thought "Wasn't that vaporware for the last 10 years?". Only after that I saw the threads on /v/ and was even more confused that someone would reuse the same name as another FPS with no relation.
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>>377545451
>Parent murders someone trying to harm you
vs
>Parent going on a rampage and killing numerous civilians and most of the guards who would have worked under you.

Yes there is a difference.
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>>377544075

Bethdrones don't exist they said
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>>377545217
>netflix shows don't count as television
>pirating HBO shows don't count as television
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>>377545531
>Wow people talking about a game that just came out? Not only that but one with a lot of controversy due to old prey. Must be shills amirite
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>>377545549
so... "no reason"
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>>377545225
The lack of info on console sales doesn't make PC sales relevant. If Bethesda devoted even a significant portion of their marketing to PC as a platform I will: A. Cook and eat my own asshole and B. Admit that this information is relevant to drawing conclusions about whether the game is a failure or success.
PC fags don't buy at launch.
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>>377545649
You idiot the article is about people who have a cable TV or satellite subscription, not watching shows period.
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>>377545451
>killing someone who wants you dead is the same as killing literally every person you meet
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>>377545746
>T-THOSE DON'T COUNT

wew
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>>377545549
And I get paid to cry about weebs and 4chanians on 4chan
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>>377545272
Reloading is not a major point in the vast majority of games, in fact Doom had no reloading and I don't remember people complaining how awful it is to not have reloads. Overly complicated gun reloads and mechanics would get in the way of shooting gameplay, and would be seen as a step back for just making combat needlessly complicated. The point of most shooters is not to be realistic, and in fact many of the more realistic tendencies of shooters have made them more boring. Now moral choices are touted as a gameplay mechanic, play the game your way! This kind of drivel

Also I already told you Receiver has plenty of weapon mechanic details for gun aficionados, I don't see you playing it nor mentioning it.
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>>377545813
shitposting is 4chanian

this is a meme and shitposting alt-right website after all

the zeitgeist boards of /pol/, /int/, /sp/, and /tv/ set the core culture and are growing by leaps and bounds.

whereas the "original" hugbox containment boards continue to get smaller and die
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>>377545810
Cord cutters imply you don't watch live television. End of story. Which is what the article linked discussed.

Which is my argument. Normies Netflix marathon now, they don't do like Boomers and sit in front of the TV at 7pm on Tuesday nights to watch a scheduled show.
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>>377545612
>>377545794
so some murder is acceptable, is it that 'everyone is equal but some are more equal than others' kind of deal? That's a pretty lax way of self defense, if we may even call it that.
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>>377530358
This. It honestly one of my all time favorites now
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>>377545685

Nice damage control. Gotem with the greentext
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>>377531471
>Buy at full price
Please explain. I've been considering it as well.
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>>377529990
>using PC sales to gauge whether or not a game is successful
This board is both 18+ and 80+ IQ only.
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>>377546048
>so some murder is acceptable, is it that 'everyone is equal but some are more equal than others' kind of deal?
No, it's a 'they want me dead so I have to kill them or they will kill me' kind of deal.
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>>377546048
Any sane person would argue that killing someone who plots to or kills your spouse and plans to use your child is different than walking up to some random fucker on the street and shooting him in the face.
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>>377529990
Being happy that one of the best games in recent years flopped.

And many replies are from people that didn't buy it for stupid reasons or because they have bad tastes in video games, and some still don't know what kind of game this is.

Bethesda did a really bad job when marketing this game, sure, but this place has really become a shithole.
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>>377545110
Then why sell it on pc to begin with?
>>377545734
The lack of info on console sales doesn't mean PC sales are irrelevant. Your unsubstantiated opinions doesn't change that
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>>377546269
Then throw Daud as a character into that mix and you actually have a moral ambiguity.
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>>377546220
>weebs assblasted and omitting console sales because their precious games sold like S H I T

MY
FUCKING
GIGASIDES
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>>377545976
>shitposting is 4chanian
Congrats you just exposed yourself as 4chanian
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>>377529990
I guess we're forever stuck with CoDs.

RIP Shock-likes.
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>>377545734
>If Bethesda devoted even a significant portion of their marketing to PC
It's being marketed with Ryzen and Vega. So is Quake Champions, a PC exclusive, so obviously Bethesda wants people to view them both as "PC games."
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>>377545696
Delete your image right now 4chanian weeb scum
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>>377546480
System Shock 3 is going to be made, and the System Shock 1 remake is already being made.
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>>377546378
>muh weeb boogieman

lmao
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>>377529990
I havent had enough money this month to buy it. But I will buy it when I can.
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>>377545897
One of us is being autistic and the other is wrong anyway. I no longer care who's who.
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>>377545289
>A video game is still a video game, regardless of whom, where or how much was spent making it. It should be held to the same standard of all current, past and future games, that's how we can ever hope to come to a sensible scale of measure.
Not really sure how this relates to what I said. AAA games are made to be widely accessible. dumb, popular and sell millions of copies. Prey '17 was clearly not made with that in mind. It's not too challenging and inaccessible either, but they couldn't risk going too far. They are planning to add poisoning, oxygen leaking, bleeding, broken legs and some more mechanics in a later patch to make it more challenging

>isn't great, but not bad is just plainly average, right?
This depends on the platform. I'm playing on PC and there's not much going on so this is good enough for now.
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>>377544736
>everyone hates Bethesda.
Not really.
Good job on the damage control though. This is a shit playground which explains why you're here
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>>377546856
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>>377546592
the ss1 remake info we have so far sends me some mixed signals. I know nightdive really loves the series, but it's no easy task and the already fractured "shock fanbase" will absolutely rip them a new one if they fuck up, which they very well may. twice.

the cynic in me can't muster the hope, but its good to see those guys try. plus their ss1 port is definitive. i'm super happy with it.
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>>377530091
More of a Bethesda publishing issue I think. Very few Bethesda games sell well. And the ones that do are usually the broken ass Fallout games
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>>377546316
>one of the best games in recent years flopped.

We're talking about Prey
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>>377529990
Cant wait for it go on sale and pick it up on the cheap
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>>377547075
The console version is already $40 at retail

So much for those omitted sales lol
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>>377543671

Dishonored isn't so much about good vs evil, it's about control/restraint, order, vs indulgence and chaos.

Or to quote the opening in the game cell:
" A little fire that warms is better than a big fire that burns."
"We all start innocent, but the world leads us to guilt."

The very first sentence of the game: "steady hand".

>>377546316
>And many replies are from people that didn't buy it for stupid reasons

That's their prerogative. If the publisher needed their money, it should have met wit their demands. If it couldn't, shouldn't have made a game that needed them to buy it.
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>>377529990
I'm glad it failed.
Publishers need to understand that this fucking retarded trend of recycling names has to stop. They had a great game, and they killed it by calling it the same fucking thing as a completely unrelated game that came out a decade ago.
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>>377546693
So you're aware a game with detailed gun mechanics exist yet you still use it as an example asking why developers don't do it.

I already explained reloading isn't considered a selling point for games at all, while moral choices are advertised as "play your own way" kind of shit so of course I expect the moral choice system to be more detailed than pick 2 ways.
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>>377546316
>And many replies are from people that didn't buy it for stupid reasons

This is literally the "consumers are too entitled" argument. No one who makes this argument has good taste
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>>377547239
busterbaxter.jpg
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>>377547449
>They had a great game
LOL
it's shit
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>>377547473
did you even read the post chain
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>Game has absolutely no demo
>Game has no review copy, so reviewers either don't care much, or come out with late reviews

hmmmmmmmmmmmm, really makes you think
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>>377547449
I just feel bad for Arkane, they don't deserve to be cucked like that
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>>377547449
>I'm glad a great game failed because of reasons
>I'm glad that any publisher is less likely to make more of said good games because of that
Are you by any chance literally retarded?
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>>377546260
>>377546269
>murdering is okay when there's a non lethal choice that can get the job done
So if someone wants to fuck your life up your primary option is to kill them? I hope everyone treats you well in real life, your moral compass sounds a little broken if you're gonna start killing people for wanting to do evil shit.
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>>377547891

By that logic, we all should submit to any shit the publishers throw at us, because if we don't, they'll stop making games.
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>>377547812
just pop the 60 bucks and play it for 1hr59m and refund if you hate it, simple as that

its a way more accurate gauge of liking a game than 100 reviewers' reviews of prerelease builds in every game you try it on.

or just fucking pirate it who cares, you're not a consolefag are you?
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It's amazing how insecure TVfags are in this thread.

It's time to accept that your shitty telebox is outdated.
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>>377547812
plus their last game ran awfully on all platforms and it's still not fixed on PC, yeah man I'm totally buying this new game blindly
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>>377541910
>you have to watch tv to have something to talk about at work
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>>377547749
>XD
>it's shit
>LMAO

/v/
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>>377548063
No its those giganerd weebs I tell you
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>>377548139
Prey works better than pretty much every PC port in the last year.
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>>377548161
He only said "it's shit" though. You're not quoting /v/
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>>377548139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EZNr0TyimU
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>>377548275
>>377548350
Release a demo then, they didn't even bother to fix Dishonored 2.
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>>377548139
im running it at 1440p ultra on a 6gb 1060 and its never dropped below 60fps
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>>377545685
There's a difference between simply talking about a game and whining about weeb sabotage and how not enough people bought it because of "stupid reasons".
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>>377548430
just pirate it, itl run this good
>>377548430
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>>377548543
The pirate version is on 1.0 which has crashes and problems, so no.
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>>377548430
They're going to tell you to use the refund system in lieu of a demo even though that's not how it's supposed to be used and they hold your money for up to a week after you ask for your money back unless you're willing to take it in stream credit
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>>377548028
Sure, the developer naming he game wrongly, according to you, means the game should fail.
Splendid logic anon.
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>>377530739
>having a facebook
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>>377548613
use the pirate version as a demo with that in mind. what the hell?
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>>377548613
i pirated ghost warrior 3 and it and prey both strangely crash the first time i try to launch them usually, and you have to use this steam emulator program to launch them, but then itl work after the 2nd or 3rd time every time

and i have 10 hours and it never crashed during the actual gameplay i think
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>>377548697
inb4 "who cares it's just $60!"
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>>377530823
>deleted my facebook account
>having one in the first place
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>>377547924
>kill someone
>give them to a stalker sadist who keeps them in one room and never lets them see the light of day til they die.
Which is more cruel?

>kill the genius
>make the genius retarded, but not retarded enough to make him forget that he was a genius,
Which is more cruel?

Jindosh outright pleads with you to kill him after you make him stupid. Delilah's lover desires death when you cut her off from magic.

Both games aren't as simple as murder bad, sparing life good.
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just the thought of having to read so many fucking emails in the game is enough to put me off
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>>377547924
You find the non-lethal options only if you really explore the game. Otherwise killing them seems like the only choice. And lets not forget that those are people in power who have the government backing them up so unlike in our world, you can't just rely on the state to save you.
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>>377548430
What? Yes they did. I got it in February and there were numerous patches that added and fixed the game.

I have an outdated PC and it runs smoothly, nothing like release videos I saw. Probably because they patched it all the way up til April. And added content like New Game + and singular missions.
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>>377548761
>use a buggy piece of shit outdated as a trial
>last game from the same developers was a broken mess that is so bad it's still bad 6 months after it released
No thanks. I'll just skip it.
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>good games don't always sell
No shit, that's why Looking Glass went bankrupt
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>>377548880
this
walking/email sim with shit gameplay and graphics
it's shit
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>>377530739
I don't have a facebook account and the only reason I own a TV is because I like to turn it on for the background noises while I do something to feel less lonely while being alone at home.
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>>377548880
an illiterate dyslexic could 100% prey
>>377549032
>the last game was horrible so even though this one was less than perfect on launch and got fixed, i'll pass on it
i'd say you're missing out but you seem like a dumbass so i guess that's fine. next time skip the thread too
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Genuinely mad that people here didn't buy the game
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>>377531648
>>377531850
>If you read the review you would've seen it was over a bug. Which most certainly did not deserve a four point lowering of the score.

They played a game that had been released and was on the market for a week before reviewing because Bethesda refused to send out preview copies. They got a gamebreaking bug that absolutely ruined the fun for them and made the game unfinishable.

AND BEFORE PUBLISHING THE REVIEW... they contacted the dev and said, "Hey, this sucks... help." The dev sent out a game save and said, "Use this. It'll take care of everything."

AND THEN...
WAIT FOR IT...
THE DEV'S SAVE ENCOUNTERED THE SAME BUG!

Fuck Prey. Fuck Bethesda. Fuck this unfinished, untested, flawed garbage that ships broken and is understood to be patched into a working state later.

They deserve the 4 and they deserve to fail, just like Andromeda did. Just like No Man's Sky did.

Sell shit. Get hit.
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>>377548717

I don't care about the name.
Some people did though. Enough not to buy it. It's their prerogative too.

Personally, I'm more on the anti-DRM crowd, that's why I didn't buy it.

Ultimately though, as I said upthread, it's the publisher's job to either make a product we want to buy, or if it can't, at least make a product that doesn't need us to buy it to be successful.

Regardless, I love how in a few years time we went from "vote with your wallet" to "don't you see you're going to kill the companies". Well turns out that's the purpose of voting with your wallet; you hurt the company till it's forced to change.

But I guess "vote with your wallet" was only a smug way to say shut up to others from people that never expected it to have any real influence.
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>>377549250
need a safe space? Sorry if my last post was a microaggression
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>>377549383
I think it did fine and Arkane certainly won't stop making games.
Also, the people gloating are usually just the same 3-4 guys posting over and over in this thread for the last couple of hours.
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>>377548350
>no enhancements for the PS4 Pro
I thought it was a requirement for all ps4 games since the Pro
came out?
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I was about to buy it but I heard that the only enemies were blobs and shapes

Fuck that tbqh
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>>377549547
I also think 227k sales is fine for a AAA game
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>>377530739
what if i don't have a TV?
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>>377549476
>I don't care about the name.


>>377547449
>I'm glad it failed.
>Publishers need to understand that this fucking retarded trend of recycling names has to stop
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>>377549528
youre posting in a thread about a game you haven't played.

you've made a factually incorrect presupposition about the game which prevents you from playing it, and which you refuse to reconsider.

look how much i typed, wow. hope this helps, here's some passive-aggressive icing on your (you) cake. enjoy
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>>377549912

Don't tell me, if you have reading comprehension issues?

Or do you think there's only anon posting beside you?
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>>377549912
I like how you completely ignored the rest of his post just so you could quote his first sentence out of context
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>>377549459
>the game works after less than a week in the field
So we agree that it is now an 8?
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>>377549476
I agree with all of that and I hate buying games on day 1 but unfortunately games are expensive to make and first week sales are what matters. I hate a lot of stuff Bethesda does, but I like Arkane. Do they deserve to fail like Looking Glass, Ion Storm, Troika etc? None of them deserved to fail but unfortunately the industry is shit. /v/ usually screams about games being dumbed down but the truth is, no one buys those more complex hardcore games and it's very selfish of the "hardcore crowd" to be like that.
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>>377529990
>7 billion people
>200k sales
lmao PC gaming is dead
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>>377550029
Why are you jumping into a discussion with something that's irrelevant to what I said if you're not that anon?

>>377550049
I'm ignoring it because the original discussion was about retarded anon saying it's good that the game failed because of the name. I never said not to vote with your wallet or to suck a developers dick so that they don't stop making games. The point is that someone needs to be literally retarded to be glad that a game failed because of the fucking name.
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>>377550190
>a multiplatform game flops
>LMAO PC GAMING IS DEAD
Meanwhile >>377547239
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>>377529990
>Prey
>mass amounts of marketing
>mass amounts of marketing
>mass amounts of marketing


???
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>>377550286
You're ignoring it because you wanted to take his post out of context for the sake of twisting the argument into something it's not
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>>377550073
I agree it's very selfish of the "hardcore crowd" to vote with their wallets, they should buy what we tell them to even if it means supporting a publisher they obviously hate.
Also Prey is one of the most complex hardcore games to come out in the past 5 years.
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>>377550462
No, as I said I'm ignoring it because it's not what was discussed. I assumed it was the anon I replied to and not some random anon that just blindly jumped into the discussion without reading the reply chain so the rest of the post, while correct, is 101% irrelevant to what was discussed.

If I wanted to twist it into something that is not I would have misquoted it or actually took the argument out of context.
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Good job lads, you've made sure the only games any publisher will put out in the future are MOBAs and walking simulators.
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No fucking shit it flopped. It was literally BioShock except boring and poorly designed. Also it was nothing like the original Prey which was an awesome fps.
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>>377550073

Selfish how?

I'm going to repeat it, but by that logic, we all should submit to any shit the publishers throw at us, because if we don't, developers will die and stop making games.

And no. We all have reasons, that may seem stupid to others, but we don't *owe* developers money. To use one of their favorite marketing word in recent years - correctly for once, they're not entitled to our money just because they made something. Even if it's something good.
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>>377550605
yeah dont buy anything and then cry that games are getting shittier. It's not a fucking charity you cunt.
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>>377550692

But I did defend the right of that other anon to not spend money on a game because he didn't like the name.

Even if I certainly don't share his concern myself.

So that was on point. Even if you refuse to see the larger point I was trying to make.
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>>377550803
I don't disagree, but do you have a solution? Indie development is still somewhat primitive, it takes a lot of time to make even small platformers, let alone RPGs and more complex stuff
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>>377550962

Cuts both ways: make a good product people want to buy or don't cry people are not buying it.

We're not a fucking charity you miscarriage waste.
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>>377551060
>But I did defend the right of that other anon to not spend money on a game because he didn't like the name.
I never said he should pay the developer. There is a difference between not buying a game and being glad that it failed. A huge difference.
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>>377550692
It was what was discussed though. You choose to ignore it because you wanted to discredit his argument without actually addressing it
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>>377530358
Probably because it's the only western game all year to not be a pile of burning trash
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>>377539457

It wasn't that clear cut "good" and "bad". Using the magic bomb saves lives, but the neuro technology remains behind for potential abuse and the people who escape may still possess latent infection. Destroying the station destroys the typhons and the technology, but also any survivors.
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>>377551195

Fair enough I guess. Though, really, what do you expect people that *are* "voting with their wallet" to feel when it actually produces results? Of course there's going to be satisfaction, even if only of the schadenfreude kind.
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>>377550962
>It's not a fucking charity you cunt.
That goes both ways you stupid fucking cunt. You're throwing a tushy tantrum and calling people selfish becauseu they chose not to buy a run of the mill bioshock clone sold by a company they clearly don't want to support. I buy games from companies I actually like, you can keep crying bitch tears about how we ruined the industry because your shitty game isn't one of them
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>>377551458
Indifference? I vote with my wallet constantly and I'm not happy when a game fails. I didn't buy a single Denuvo game and I wasn't happy when some of them flopped.

However I will be happy when a developer makes a good game that doesn't use Denuvo. You should feel satisfaction when you get a product you want and not when a product you don't want fails.
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>>377551195
>There is a difference between not buying a game and being glad that it failed
You said the hardcore crowd was selfish because of the former, not the latter
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>>377551954
I never said that. You got a wrong anon.
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good. real prey died for this shitfest.
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>>377547023
Nigga what?
Dishonored 2 - 2.32m
Doom - 5.12m
Fallout 4 - 17.64m
The Elder Scrolls Online - 8.5+m
Wolfenstein: The New Order - 4.96m
The Evil Within - 4.68m
Dishonored - 7.34m
Skyrim - 34.7m
Rage - 4.62m

They beat out every other medium sized publisher in terms of sales and success
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>>377551714
>I will be happy when a developer makes a good game that doesn't use Denuvo

So not Prey then.

Also it's perfectly acceptable to be happy that a game with practices you don't like fails. Because the opposite case of those games succeeding does far more damage to the industry and normalizing shitty practices
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>>377552049
>Bethesda
>medium sized publisher
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>>377551714
>You should feel satisfaction when you get a product you want and not when a product you don't want fails.

I don't see any reason why one shouldn't feel satisfaction for both, really.

And I don't really agree with your assessment of the situation: when one shits in the well water, it spoils the water for everyone.
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>>377551150
The solution is to call people selfish for voting with their wallets by not buying games from shitty publishers
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>>377552139
>So not Prey then.
More or less. I like the game but I don't like Denovo. So Prey without Denovo. And they got a costumer.

>Also it's perfectly acceptable to be happy that a game with practices you don't like fails
I would agree if the practices are actually bad for the consumer. Otherwise it's just a product that is not aimed at you and you're a cunt for wanting everything to bends to your whim.
Wanting a game to fail because of the name makes you a cunt.
Wanting the bare bone game to fail because it a $60 DLC platform is okay.
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>>377551171
>>377551609
"good" products clearly don't sell in a niche environment because of high production costs and small audience. Boycotting a company that's willing to publish it doesn't help anyone. And my argument wasn't specifically for Prey but for every studio that failed commercially because fucks like you dont want to compromise
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