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They refused to sell me a game because they assumed I was going to give it to a minor. There are a shitload of legal problems with this.
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>>377525438
>There are a shitload of legal problems with this.
name them
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So sue them faggot
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>>377525438
I don't believe it, since games are sold all the time to parents, they just tell them stuff like "are you aware this game is rated M for maure" and stuff
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>being dumb enough to go to gamestop in the first place
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>>377525438
they have the right to refuse service to anyone.
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>>377525494
>Refusing sale based on assumed negative information about the customer is discrimination
>When the game is in my possession I can legally do what I want with it which absolves GameStop of any responsibility

I don't understand why they feel the need to have this policy when I can literally drive over to fucking Walmart across the street and do the same exact thing.

>>377525932
They refused me because I wasn't the minor's parent(little brother). For all they know though, I could have been his legal guardian and how would they make me prove it?
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Go to Bestbuy or Amazon, and let gamestop continue to die as it should.
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>>377525438
They can refuse service to anyone. But that is a dumb reason. I'm sure they only did it because if you gave it to a kid and that kids parents complained they could lose their job. They're just trying to protect themselves from a company that honestly doesn't give a shit about it's employees.
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>>377525438
A normal shop does not have to sell anybody anything for any reasons. But they most often do, because of bad publicity.
In your case, you buying it and providing a minor with the goods offset their desire for revenue and peace.
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>>377525438
you have no fucking idea what you are talking about, right
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>>377526379
>a shitload
>can only name two
>names discrimination when that has literally nothing to do with anything here
>thinks he can give age restricted things to minors when he's not the guardian of said minor
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>>377526343
No they don't
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>>377525438

I used to work there and did it all the time. Siblings trying to buy M-rated games for their younger brother. Then they'd leave and come back in by themselves and try to buy it and I'd still deny them. Then me and my co-worker would laugh about them after they left.

They probably laughed about you after they left, OP.
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I've bought M rated games for minors and handed it to them in front of the cashier. I'm inclined to think you're lying OP.
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>>377526501
This. Even walking through their door gives them the wrong impression.
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>>377526729
yes they do. they are a private business. they can tell you to get the fuck out of their store if they want to for no reason at all.
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>>377526729
actually they have
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I'm pretty sure this is all bait. They have no proof that you would sell it to a minor, which even then, would be illegal, since the parent can legally buy mature games for minors.
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>>377526729
A business can refuse service to anyone as long as they aren't discriminating. Which they were not.
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>>377526703
I'm not a fucking lawyer but I assure you a half way decent one could dismantle them with a series of legal loopholes.
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Not only are there not a shitload of legal problems with it, there are no legal problems with it at all. All you do is never give them your business again and tell your friends how retarded they are, which a /v/ thread does a good job at doing, but we already know they're shit.
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>>377526914
They assumed negative information about me. That itself is discrimination.
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>>377525438
>Walk into Gamestop
>"Hello welcome to Gamestop! We are currently offering buy 2 get 1 free off selected pre-owned titles! Can I help pick some out for you?"
>no thank you I just want to buy this new game that came out today
>"Are you suuure?"
>yes
>"Okay! Can I interest you in a powerup rewards membership? You will get 10% off all pre-owned titles and get 10% more trade-in credit when you trade in your old games! Let's sign you up for one!"
>No thanks, I just want this game
>"Okay! Can I interest you in signing up for our power-up rewards credit card? Where you get 20% APR financing off all purchases and earn double power up rewards points on gamestop purchases! Let's sign you up for one!"
>no thanks, I just want this game
>"Alright then, your total will be $65"
>...
>"Don't forget to take the customer survey! We do read those and you could get the chance to win a $500 gamestop gift card!"
>"Thanks"
>"Thank you for shopping at Gamestop! Have a great day!"

Why would anybody do this to themselves.
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>>377526948
no. you'd get laughed out of court right away. whatever lawyer you may try to consult probably laugh at you.
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>>377526896
It's still not illegal at all to refuse service over that, though.
Also on a separate note, it's not illegal to sell M rated video games to minors either.
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>>377526835
>>377526848
>>377526914
No they can't just randomly refuse to serve someone for no reason that would be discrimination as you say.
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>>377527026
it isn't. do you even know what discrimination is, anon? how old are you?
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>>377527026
don't try to be smart. you're not. it's only discrimination if it is based on your race, sex, sexual orientation etc.
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>>377527148
Yes they can
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>>377526948
Or the court would just throw out the case because of how fucking stupid it is.
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>>377525438
OP,do you look like a pedo?
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>try to buy alcohol at walmart with slightly underaged friend/sibling
>everyone must have id or no sale when they could just wait outside anyway
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the esrb is retarded anyhow.

why do they stop at 17+ for M games? As If 1 year between 17 and 18 makes that much of a difference?
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>>377527148
anon stop it, if you'd ever learned anything remotely related to retail and stuff, you'd know this. believe us.
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>>377527148

No. What counts as "discrimination" is pretty specifically defined, the law doesn't just say "for no real reason whatsoever" or something like that.
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>>377525438
Say you're gay when you sue.
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>>377527148
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about
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>>377527026
lmao go ahead and take them to court then dumbass, see how that goes
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>>377527148
There are 3 legal levels of discrimination in the U.S.
1. Rational Basis- just have to say why it's ok to discriminate. eg. only 18yos are allowed to buy cigs
2. Intermediate level- if the discrimination is against a suspect classification, like a black person or a woman
and 3. Strict Scrutiny- used by the supreme court in state laws that are discriminatory.

Any store can discriminate based on rational basis, discriminating against you because they didnt want you to give a mature game to a child is a perfectly legal reason.

t. pre law fag
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>>377526343
Especially niggers.
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>>377525438
>Not buying all games online so you don't have to deal with fags like this.
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I'm a law student and this whole case is ripe with legal loopholes as the OP says. The other Anons are right though when they say it's not worthy pursuing in court.

Now if they had done this to a celebrity then lawyers would be jumping all over this case.

Just dont give them your business anymore(they're dying anyway). They'll pay for for their shady business practices in the long run.
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>>377527146
It is illegal. You are selling a good for x price. Someone over 18 comes in and is willing to give you x amount for that good. At that point, the person selling that good needs a good reason to deny you that good.

Certain sectors have different rules (gun salesmen can deny a sale if they suspect a person might be mentally ill, a bartender could refuse service if the patron is drunk, etc.) But in this case, there's no reason not to sell the good, meaning that yes, it is illegal. Here's why:

Assuming OP sued them (which he shouldn't, since he has no proof of this) and they tried to make the claim that they didn't sell to him because they feared he would give it to a minor, Gamestop would have to prove why they believe this. Somewhere down this proof, they would eventually use OP's sex or orientation as a reason to deny him the sale. There, they would lose.

That being said, OP has no proof, this is probably bait, and Gamestop would probably just sell it to him to avoid a lawsuit.
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>>377527561
Go to your containment board kid.
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>>377527314

The difference is in one of those cases it could be argued the store employees were accomplices to a crime taking place on their premises. It's just sensible store policy.
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send a complaint to corporate and just buy it on amazon or something.
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>>377527243
>>377527330
>>377527393
>>377527508
>>377527560
I'm not saying op would win any court case I'm just saying that there is precedent for the shop to at least be consistent.

Btw all op had to do was not have the kid right next to him when he bought the game, I once got a complete stranger to buy me a game.
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They just jacked up the prices on a bunch of used games by $5-$10, I'm way past done with their bullshit.
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It could be considered discrimination if they only treated OP with this mindset, and not everyone, which they probably did. Furthermore, Gamestop has no proof of their reason for denying OP the sale in the first place, and it isn't illegal for Mature video games to be played by minors,so they are in the wrong.
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>>377527836
There's really not anything that says they have to sell it to him, though. You're wrong right in your first line. Not selling M rated video games to children is technically discrimination too, as there is no law that says children can't buy M rated games, that's just a store policy. But of course it's okay for them to deny it. But age discrimination is a real thing too. Often times in "55 and older" communities, they have to get at least one person younger than that living there to avoid getting sued.
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>>377528114
If OP is over 18, they have to sell it to him. Period.
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>>377525438
Maybe you shouldn't give minors M rated games, shitbag.
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>>377527836
>Somewhere down this proof, they would eventually use OP's sex or orientation as a reason to deny him the sale.
the fuck? do you just assume lawyers are braindead or why would you ever think this?
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>>377527907
This is my containment board, buttercup.
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>>377528168
No. Again. They don't have to sell you ANYTHING. They just, plain, don't have to. They have no obligation to do that.
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>>377525438
They refused to sell me a rated T game once and I couldn't just leave it so I had to camp the store for a couple hours for that clerk to go on break.

It was .hack volume 3, I was willing to fight for that shit if I had to.
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>>377528276
>"Why did you refuse sale to him?"
>"Because he was going to give it to a minor."
>"Why did you assume this?"
>"Because because because...."

Eventually they'll be funnel into a discriminatory response.
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>>377528334
You know we don't live in a libertarian shithole, right faggot? Businesses have to comply to certain laws.
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>>377527105
>sit in comfy jumpsuit in front of youre pc
>steam *click*
>enter game title
>buy for 10 dollaros
>download
>play
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>>377528439
because the situation looked suspicious. they talked before they went in and looked nervous. done.
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>>377528365
Underage faggot
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>>377528546
So you can't take children to buy games? That discriminates against quite a few people.
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>>377528546
But why did you assume he was going to give it to a minor? How did you know he wouldn't take home the game and play it himself? How did you know what they were discussing? Why did you assume they looked suspicious?
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>>377528510
conservatists be like:
>you cant be liberal else we gonna spam you with "LOL LMAO KYS KYS XDXD"
>n..no you cant be centrist either! no i dont want
>STOP BEING LIBERTARIAN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOURE FREESPEACH DOESNT MATTER BECAUSE REEEEEEEE
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>A store shouldn't be able to deny sales to literally anyone for any reason

This thread is filled with communist faggots.
Fuck everything.
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>>377527146
>it's not illegal to sell M rated video games to minors either.

It really is, I can guarantee you every place that sells video games has registers that ask to verify date of birth because the business can get in trouble
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>>377528618
Nah, I was 18 at the time. They straight up refused to sell it to me.
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>>377528856
what
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>>377528510
man, you're mighty retarded, right faggot
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Legally we can decline service to anyone for any reason, even for no reason. That being said I would have given it to you no problem if only to stop you from making this retarded blogpost.

desu you shouldn't waste your time or money shopping at GameStop, just buy off Amazon.

t. GameStop manager
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>>377528672
are you dumb? i desrcibed a certain situation and "quite a few" people aren't nervous in that.
>>377528692
because they were nervous, the kid was eyeing the game like it wanted it and bla bla bla. don't try to be a lawyer you're not. i don't have to know what they do, i just have to have sufficient reason to assume and nervousness and some other things that are out of the ordinary actual sellers will recognise are more than enough. also judges know that this stuff happens very often and will be very lenient.
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>>377529036
>based upon violent content are unconstitutional
Good thing there's more things that go into ESRB ratings. AO games are mostly porn, and you can't sell porn to a minor.
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>>377528439
What world do you live in that corporate lawyers are this braindead.
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>>377528862
>Is it illegal to sell or rent M (Mature) or AO (Adults Only) rated games to customers under 17 and 18 years of age respectively?

>A ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2011 (Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association/Entertainment Software Association) found that video games are a constitutionally-protected form of expression, and that laws restricting their sale or rental based upon violent content are unconstitutional.

It's not illegal, businesses just do it to avoid bad press.

>>377528998
No you can't idiot. There are laws against discrimination, and seemingly random refusal of service can get you in trouble legally.
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>>377525438
>>377526379
>Businesses with signs are subject to the same laws as restaurants without signs, meaning that any business owner reserves the right to refuse service to anyone so long as they do not fall into one of the protected classes of people covered under federal anti-discrimination laws.

Nothing wrong was done.
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Boring eb story thread?

>go to fucking eb
>say hi to store clerk
>check out the Nintendo game section
>clerk comes over, gives me flyer and said they have a few 3ds games on sale
>>check them out, i have them all
>ask if they have puyo puyo Tetris for the Switch
>they do, so i buy it
>say no to usual questions
>thank the clerk
>go to Walmart and buy a minecraft lego set for y cousin's belated birthday
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>>377528439
I think you've been watching too much TV kid.
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>>377529274
No it can't, especially not random refusal of service. The law is very clear. Obviously I can't legally refuse to serve niggers because of their skin color.
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>>377527026
>Special snowflake the post

Kill yourself you dumb sjw cunt.
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Is this a FUCKING GAMESTOP thread?
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>>377525438
They can refuse service to whoever they want faggot
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>>377529280
Except for "protected classes of persons."

A business owner should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason.
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Vidya is not an essential service. They can refuse service to anyone. Now if they were a hotel, diner, or grocery you might have a case. But not having the latest dudebro shooter isn't going to cause you harm. So fuck off.
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>>377529703
No /pol/
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>>377528510
oh my god you are such a fucking faggot
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>>377529750
>A property owner shouldn't be able to do whatever they want on their property

Neck yourself you pinko fuck.
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>>377529703
Agreed, however it's to stop people from being racist/sexist/etc.

Then again I think it's fine for a business to be as racist/sexist/etc as they want because they will get bad press and end up out of business.
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>>377529717
Can he claim being denied service because hes retarded?
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>>377525438
I miss the mom&pop game shop around where I live that got shut down because it just couldn't stay opened. I used to buy M rated games there when I was in middle school and the lady didn't give a fuck
It got replaced by a hair salon ;-;
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>>377526164
Fourth post best post.
It's your fault for not letting this piece of shit company die.
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>>377529858
At this point, maybe.
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The girl I'm currently dating has so many horror stories about how she got treated at gamestop simply because she's a woman

*Staff ignoring her and curing infront of her when she's at the counter trying to buy a game

*Walking in from the rain and EVERYONE in the store immediately staring at her chest
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>>377529452
I got one
>go to FUCKING GAMESTOP
>4:30PM
>first customer they've had all day
>neck bearded cashier mentions Tekken 7 among pre-orders, depression in his voice is fully audible
>say I'm getting it for Steam
>asks me my main or if I play any other fighters
>talk about Guilty Gear and 3S for about an hour and a half
>cashier says that sales have been so low in this location that beyond inventory checks to stop theft, nobody cares what the 3 employees left do anymore
>been going back once a week to talk about fighting games because literally nobody else walks in the store
>cashier ends up being my best friend
FUCKING GAMESTOP
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>>377529848
So you're saying someone should be allowed to murder others because they're on their property?

Because that's what you're saying. I know I'm arguing with a child.
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>>377529703
I assume (read: I hope) that the actual law is not that, and it's only if you can prove that it's discrimination based upon race, sexuality, etc. Cause a law as it was written there is completely stupid
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>>377529853
>they will get bad press and end up out of business.

All press is good press. If your store is racist it just means that you'll get a bunch of new racist costumers, your regulars will stay regular because they like the place, and then random people who have never been to your store in the first place will be angry about it on the internet.

Same thing that happened to that Chicken place that refused service to a lesbian couple.
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>>377526379
You're an enormous faggot.
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>>377530026
>going from selling a video game to murder
why are you so desperate to win an argument on an anonymous forum please stop it's embarrassing to look at.
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>>377529998
>*Walking in from the rain and EVERYONE in the store immediately staring at her chest

Good virtue signalling bro, I was almost baited.
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>>377525438
America where a 14 year old can shoot a real gun but cant watch an R rated movie.
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>>377525438
>They refused to sell me a game because they assumed I was going to give it to a minor.

Liar. Video games are not alcohol or cigarettes. Children are allowed to play M rated games, they're just not allowed to purchase them themselves. Even an older brother with his 12 year old brother is allowed to buy GTAV as long as the older brother is 18 or older.
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>>377529335
hope your cousin had a nice belated birthday
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>>377530452
You have no argument.

You said a property owner should be able to do whatever they want on their own property. They obviously cant. They cant discriminate against customers based on their race, gender, religion, or sexuality either.

Stay in school kid.
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>>377530697
Given what has been said you're not wrong, but given what was the obvious intended meaning you're a twat
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>>377530340
That is not always the case.
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>>377529998
just post the fucking comics you fag
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>>377527105
I went to a Fucking GameStop for the first time in almost a decade because they had a big sign out front saying they had switches in stock.
>I absolutely hate GameStop, but this was like release week and you couldn't find em anywhere.
Bitch did your exact script, but added in:
>OMG your going to love it! I've taken mine everywhere! So what case do you want?? It's harder to find cases then the console!
>No thanks. I won't be leaving the house with it.
>Oh that's what I said now I'm everywhere! You gotta have a case! And look, here's a screen protector too! They're both super cheap!
>No, I won't be leaving and don't want a $60 case or $20 screen protector.
>Aww okay you'll be back tomorrow for them and they'll be gone! Okay I'll ring Zelda up for you too!
>No thanks, I already have it (Lie).
>Oh okay well I'll grab snipperclips!
>No.
>Well you'll need a pro controller too! We don't have them in stock but we're doing a secret waiting list!
>No thanks.
>Okay well you're not protecting the switch, so you need the extended warranty right???
>No.
I'm surprised she didn't try to get me to buy a charger. I left and drove across the street and bought Zelda from Walmart.
They can't die fast enough.
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>>377525438

Somehow this feels like a dumb topic

Otherwise they wouldn't sell most games to who they think are parents.

Since parents don't get away with that...oh wait
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>>377530838
>I hate them because they're trying to use sales techniques and I'm too autistic to forget it after 2 minutes
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>>377530340
>Chick Fil A refused service to a lesbian couple

Except that never happened. The whole controversy was about how the CEO said that he thinks gay marriage is wrong and wasn't going to open a chain in San Fransisco.
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>>377530838
Please for the love of fuck tell me this is embellished. How is gamestop even fucking real.
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>>377529998

Sounds like she's a lying cunt who's making shit up for attention. Good luck with your relationship, she sounds like the type to eventually say you raped her once she's tired of you.
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>>377527105
>go to gamestop
>see Metal Gear Rising for $4 used not on sale
>buy game
>cashier gives me the bare minimum of what he's obligated to say to keep his job
>I was basically in their for 7 minutes total
>got MGR for $4
I thought Gamestop was supposed to be bad and Steam was good? Even on sale, MGR is like $20 on Steam
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In smaller stores, if by chance you walk in at the same time as a rowdy group of teenagers that attract the attention of a clerk/manager they assume you're buying alcohol for them and won't let you purchase it.

>>377531190
It's a comic
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>>377530838
should've bought them screen protectors at best buy though
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>>377531190

I know the rain thing is true, asshole. She's got some pretty big boobs and one time we got caught in the rain and she was in a white shirt. Every dude's eyes were right on her like a laser.
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>>377531239
I have a copy of MGS3 I got for less than a dollar. I paid with cash just because.
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>>377530026
>someone I dont want on my property refuses to leave
>assume they are a threat because why wouldnt they just leave
>defend myself and my property
Seems reasonable to me
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>>377531334
And?

>>377531265
I hope so, I truly do.
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>>377531376
Unless your state has castle doctrine(and even then that can't protect you) you're going to be taking it up the ass from Tyrone.
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>>377530026
>Someone who can't understand what another is saying so they call them a child

Never ceases to make me laugh.
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>>377529998

Laser cheese, huh?
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Well no shit because retards think that property rights shouldn't be a thing and that people should be allowed to go anywhere my dude
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>>377531038
>I don't enjoy having an extended sales pitch shoved down my throat last minute in a desperate bid to garner more revenue to keep the store afloat using outdated ideas like this fucking sales pitch

And we're being autistic you say
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>>377525438
>They refused to sell me a game because they assumed I was going to give it to a minor

a couple years ago (i was 24 or 25 at the time, and i look older than i am) i was buying groceries and grabbed a sixer of a decent local pale ale. after ringing me up, the clerk (unattractive, overwight woman in her mid-30s i would guess) asked for my id. she checked it, handed it back to me, then said "i need to see his id too." i was alone. she convinced herself that i was buying six beers for a teenager who had entered the store around the time i did and who had already left. i told her she was wrong, but that i didn't need the beer anyway, but she refused to let me pay for the rest of my groceries, and called a security guard, who let me leave after a 30 second explanation.

some people go mental with the tiniest amount of authority.
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>>377530025
i hope you get cancer
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>tfw local gamexchange is fucking garbage compared to gamestop
>straight up lie to customers about having better trade in prices than gamestop
>somehow still manage to find obnoxious hipsters who sigh every fucking time you ask them something

I have plenty of scummy gamechange stories but hardly any Gamestop ones, and none of them from my local store.
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>>377531038
No I know they're struggling. And this is a relatively small store so there wasn't too much merch bullshit you hear about on /v/. But that one experience was a chance for them to win me back over, and instead reinforced my dislike for them. I've had a few really bad experience with them when I was young, their business practices are terrible and there is no need for them to be stealing products from Walmart/Best Buy/Amazon.
Hell even struggling jewass BestBuy won me back a couple of years ago when I dropped in for a specific item.

>>377531058
Not at all, and I was frustrated because I had tried to call them when I saw the sign as I did my other errands but it just kept ringing. Then the one employee was still on the phone when I was done with groceries 30 min later and went in.
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>>377531710
>this girl does her job
>REEEEEEE
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>>377531272
Ironically enough, I did take my switch out when I knew I'd have a 3 hour wait in my car and got 2 small scratches on the screen, I ordered a 2-pack of glass protectors for like $12 from amazon.
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>>377531239
The only thing the Gamestop employees at the store here try to unload on people is the insurance thing for bought games and consoles. I never heard any of them do the spiel for the rewards card and the like.
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>>377532172
>tfw buy the insurance and replace the disc in eleven and a half months no matter what

I'm not sure what happened to discs but I swear PS4 discs just fuck themselves up no matter how well you treat them.
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>>377525438
>things that never happened
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>>377532473
>my life
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