Tell me /v/, how you would you reinvent a dead genre like

>>377487631
make them more accessible, focus less on the pure competitive aspect. see: smash bros

>>377487631
Give them actual level design with gameplay that isn't 1v1 on a tiny stage. So effectively turn them into beat 'em ups.

>>377487783
>Give them actual level design with gameplay that isn't 1v1 on a tiny stage. So effectively turn them into smash bros.
ftfy
>>377487631
this

>>377487783

Or it could be that it has a free camera roam but once you engage an enemy it snaps down to the traditional fighting game camera mode. Something like how For Honor did it, but retaining the complex movesets of 3d fighters.

>>377487631
ARMS™ for the Nintendo Switch™ is the fighting game made good again
I sure hope to see you all online when the game is released on June 16th

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is this the party game general

By getting rid of SF, that pile of shit has been holding fightings back forever.

Make a fighting game based off a sucessful series. Here's an idea Persona 5 vs Game of Thrones.

ANSU A CUTE

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>>377487631
what the fuck happened to sammyclassicsonicfan

Fighting Games aren't dead.
Now RTS, that's one dead genre. Or mech games too.

let Illusion make minigames after KO

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>>377488617

>>377488383
>6 fighters
>Good fighter
This is literally going to be SFV again, but everyone is giving it a pass because GOD BLESS NINTENDO.

Everyone knows Tekken 7© is going to be the game that saves fighting games. Dozens of fighters, tons of modes offline and online, costumes that you UNLOCK. We're going to be Tekken it to the streets on June 2nd.

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>>377488630
RTS isn't exactly dead, it's just completely taken over by tourneyfags and they already have Starcraft 2. Companies are afraid of trying anything because you won't be able to do anything innovative, like Perimeter, Ground control, or Earth, and working for tourneyfags will just mean you'll have to iron out balance for a hundred patches, and your audience will still complain.

>>377488846
Tekken 7 hasn't really been relevant in a long time. It doesn't help that it's already been out in arcades for a few years.

>>377489218

Why did they take a long time to release it stateside anyway?

>>377489218
>>377489315
Having played Tekken FR many times, it's a watered down version from that of the console version.

Not all the fighters are in the home release, the arcade version only has 5 stages, and the 'arcade mode' has 6 stages. It's honestly less content that Tekken Rev had. It feels a lot like a demo, but the nice thing being that it has online ranked matches.

>>377487631
Is this a boy?

>>377489548
It's a roach.

Pokken actually had a few interesting ideas.

>>377489673
Like...?

>>377489673
>rock paper scissors is interesting
>>>/vp/

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Add cute anime girls to it

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>>377487631
I have a crazy idea

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>>377487631
>dead genre
Thank god based Ninty has decided to revitalize and reinvent the genre

>>377487631

First of all i would FIRE Yoshinori Ono. Hit the road moron.

>>377492246
This picture triggers me

>>377487631
I thought that was Commander Holly at first.

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>>377487631
>dead genre
>has existed before i was born
>existed when i was a child
>existed when i was a teen
>existed when i was an adult
>Tekken 7 is just about to come out
>its been like more than 30 years as a genre

Why does OP eat shit?

>>377492246
The left picture is the most fucking truth you'll ever read in your life.
When you get to college and you see literal autists not only just "getting it", but also reveling in the fact that what takes you countless hours of hard work only takes them a few at most, you'll see that there is no place for mediocrity to flourish anymore, not even in a modest environment.

Go full customization mode
Customize combos
Customize specials
Customize appearance

>>377492957
Or how about , you accept that there are natural pro's and con's to everything and you make best with what you got you fucking cuck

>>377492246

Is this loss?

>>377487631
I sell the whole game at once.

>>377493131
Listen here ya dipshit, I will not have none of this fucking "cuck xDDDD le cuckold" business around here. When you post in the same thread as me, you use the tried and true insults, you fucking cocksuckling negroid.
And as for your meme about "some people are good at some things, others at other things, kekekek" well fuck you. When you work your ass off to try and do something, something you love, and then see that someone else put in a minimal amount of effort to get it, it breaks your heart, cause you know that you're working at your limit, you're giving it your all, and it's not enough. When you see lot of people like that, you've just got to wonder if you even belong in the world anymore, if anyone needs your labor.
/blog

>>377492246
nice fantasy world

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>>377487631
KHAN'D

1 - fighting games are not dead, they're as alive as they've ever been
2 - rising thunder with LoL characters is gonna happen and suddenly we esports

>>377488846
10 fighters*

>>377493447
By the sounds of it, you deserve it and I feel all the more happier about it.

>>377487631
Is sammy a tranny now?

>>377493468
Thanks for proving my point

>>377493854
how did you prove your point? I'm curious.

>Fighting games
Just make games with very good netplay and explain the mechanics to the player in a training mode or something that you can choose to play at your own pace.
>RTS
I'd love to see some more of these. Don't care if they are just Starcraft/C&C clones.
>Mech games
Same with this. Make more games. Basically just make an arena shooter or tacticool with different kinds of customizable weapons and that sick cockpit pov. Maybe make missions to do too.

>>377487631
>dead
>>377487783
>>377487689
>make them objectively worse
>>377487631
Arms

>>377494067
>Just make games with very good netplay and explain the mechanics to the player in a training mode or something that you can choose to play at your own pace.

As exemplified by Skullgirls, people just refrain from doing the training now then

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>>377494136
How about you fuck all the way off?

>>377494136
That's a cute boy.

>>377494136
CUTE GIRLS BEING CUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTE xD
I hope her life is miserable

>>377494136
Why is she wearing a trash bag?

>>377493447

On most fields, You don't have to be the best to be worthy. One plumber, engineer, doctor or programmer can't do all the work in the world. That's bit different in sports/esports as there pretty much only the winners get anything. Creative fields are also somewhat on the same boat, as there the one can go big hard if they get lucky and do well. But for the most parts in life, being medicore and not a natural talent is just OK. Stop comparing yourself to those who are better than you.

>>377494218
Add in community support (developers funding events, encouraging community, etc)

>>377487631
Sprites and Counters

Seriously a high detail version of old 2D games would be great and add in a counter options so its not just blocking and chip damage but actual fighting technique.

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>>377494235
i guess everyone cant like cute girls

>>377494258
woman confirmed

>>377494294
she lives in Turkey so probably

>>377494327
i donno man but i wanna fuck it

>>377494447
>woman confirmed
So you've seen his vagina? Because that looks like a boy.

>Remove projectiles or introduce mechanics that put projectile spammers at disadvantage
>make all characters cute girls
>Two ranked competive modes first one using 1vs1 the other one in a tournament style between 8 people
>More freedom in chaining
>cool fucking moves that would take fight all over the screen and into the air
>rape fucking anzu slut bitch

there is a game which has 4 of these btw

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>>377494446
So, like most modern fighting games?

>>377494494
If that looks like a boy, I'd like to see what you think is a grill.

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>>377494580
okay
my gf

>>377492957
You realize that, as literal autists, they put an absurd amount of their life probably learning and mastering all the background material, meaning that new concepts will naturally come easier. Just because they aren't currently putting in effort doesn't mean that hard work wasn't necessary.

>>377494696
That's a fucking panini press, George Foreman.

>>377494446
The fuck do you even mean by counter options that does not already exist

>>377494538
Only thing I know to have counters is DoA, not played that in a while so may not even have it. I'm not talking about interrupting with some combo I mean as in karate. As in turning a punch back around on an opponent.

>>377494829
Watch a Bruce Lee movie. Basically someone tosses a punch and you grab them into it to counter attack.

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>>377494901
>>377495005
That seems less of general fighting game changes, than just wanting a character that can parry.

Of which there are a lot of already. Examples: Ryu, Baiken, etc.

Or, if you are talking about general mechanics, Arcsys games have a resource called Burst that allows you to get out of combos. Or a lot of games have Instant Blocks.

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>>377487631
Here are things i want
>chain combos like kof
>little to no linking, 3 frame links are okay.
>no 3 kind of jumps like kof, at most 2 of them are okay, which are super jump and normal jump
>normal dashing but every char has different dash distance and speed
>ex moves should be in it.
>roman cancelling not like fadc but kof xiv or goober gear
>no supers "b-but comeback" hear me out
>a comeback mechanic like parry but takes bar more like a system similar to sfa3 but it requires precise timing which lets you comeback even on lowest health and avoid chip kill
>there is chip damage

Tell me what you guys think

>>377495189
It is neither a combo escape or a parry. Maybe it functions similar in those games, but this would be something where you could effectively be tossing punches and countering in a frenzy with neither person taking damage until one slips up. DOA2 despite being rather rough had this in its PS2 version. It was clunky as fuck and perhaps not well done, but it was there.

Think Aikido for a sort of frame of reference. Ever seen a movie where someone throws a punch and the other person grabs their arm and tosses them or pulls them into a punch. Kinda that. But unlike movies people of equal skill can end up in a series of those in sort of a rolling series of punches that get denied a connect.

Its one of the most fun fights you can have because you feel the intensity of not wanting to be the first to slip up. DOA2 almost captured that with its counter button, but didn't exactly nail it by any means. I don't play a ton of fighting games these days so perhaps its out there, but not seen it myself.

Retards aren't real

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>>377495485
Hmmm, can't say I've seen that mechanic elsewhere.

>>377495336
That sounds like a character I should know.

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>>377495485
This kinda fits I guess

>>377487631
LETS GET THIS SHIT STARTED

>She

>>377492246
talent exists
deal with it

>>377495791
Sorta, but more like DBZ when they block a fist with another fist. Sorta lacks the martial arts flow.

>>377487631
Make them so combo winning isn't combo memory

>>377487631
I just started playing SFV because a friend and I organised a grudge match over multiple gaming genres. And to be honest, while I always enjoyed watching high tier fighting game tournaments and stuff, I didn't realise how much fun I would have even losing. I'm trying to get better at the game and every loss feels like I did something wrong.

>Better tutorial
I've read like 160 pages of "beginners guides" for the game/fighting games in general, I feel like lots of fighters have a tutorial that amounts to "here's what the buttons do", without explaining when and how you want to use them.

>Good training modes
Trying to practice a combo is great and all, but it would be a bit easier if I could see exactly what went wrong in my timing when it doesn't string together.

>Character variety
To be successful you need something to appeal to as many people as possible. If people want to see that big X COMBO in the corner, then they want a character that hits a lot, even if it doesn't necessarily stack up damage wise with individual hits. Some people like gimmicky characters, just for the gimmick. Also Waifus and Husbandos, having played all of the character stories for SFV almost every character is kind of adorable.

But my fighting game experience prior to 7 days ago is DOA2, Tekken 4 demo, Tekken 5, and the one for PS1 I think with the cyborg that called down a laser gun and the shirtless kid with the spear and the pig.

Fighting games died because they never transitioned to 3D. Dark Souls is the closest thing

>>377495791
This is the kind of shit I want from a sword fighting game to be honest, one where health only matters for glancing blows, but one solid hit is basically the end of the fight.

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>>377496030
>Dark Souls pvp

I guess there's For Honor for that, or like Bayo and DMC.

>>377496030
when it comes to depth the souls games are a kiddie pool compared to an ocean when it comes to even sfv, what 2d fighters really cannot be replicated until we get some real VR.

>>377495946
What

>>377496249
>when it comes to depth the souls games are a kiddie pool compared to an ocean when it comes to even sfv

In high latency environments yes. In LAN, Dark Souls PvP is a thousand times more complex and skill-based then anything in Street Fighter. The 'footsies' battles in a 3D environment are actually interesting and the skill ceiling is about a skyscraper higher than it is in 2D fighters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6qa7aptE1Q

>>377496130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnQn5Y9TDbI

It's on Steam.

Looks like it kind of lacks depth since the small movessets are so reliable.

>>377496130
Bushido Blade on PS1 did this. Could even take out usability on limbs.

>>377495946
it's not about the combos, you can have a great combo memorized perfectly but if someone knows how to deal with the hit that starts the combo it becomes useless. It's more about tricking your opponent into it or overwhelming them and forcing them to let down their guard.

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>>377487631
>reinvent
No need. What you and almost every single memeposter in this shitpost thread dont understand is that fighting games already had good variety and depth and thats all you really needed. Balancing is an issue that will forever persist in competitive games, especially good ones.

Dont try to change it, incorporate the newest tech which wasnt available in past years to make up for the bigger problems. Patching is a cinch today with online and new updates as well.

Make them solid, completed games with a good amount of content. Dont be salty niggers who wanna "reinvent" a genre just because you cant get good at them.

>>377496415
I'm tempted to say this is the same situation as with Smash.

The fact that you can heal, level up, and the moves aren't designed for pvp ruins the typical mindset of what a traditional fighting game is. Then again, this is what sets it apart.

Anyways, the combat is still good in Dark Souls. Making Souls strictly a combat game without its RPG aspects sounds iffy. I mean, For Honor exists.

>>377496415
I understand the 3d environment argument against 2d fighters but most those 3d fighters don't have throw mechanics, overheads, block strings, or an more in depth wake up game. I might have been a bit too harsh to the souls series though, lagless souls would be pretty intense.

>>377496823
I don't think the souls games should take away anything but it should take some pointers from the soul calibur games.

>>377496727
Good thing nobody said that when gen 5 came out and we tried a lot of new things, many of which were fun and haven't been seen again.

Fuck me Quake is still mechanically king of the FPS, but a bit of god damn variety is nice.

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>>377497020
I think these hybrid fighting games (Dark Souls, Smash) should be embraced since there clearly is an audience for them. Unfortunately, it still leaves traditional fighters not named Street Fighter the edge to bring in new people, other than genuinely liking them.

I mean, I get that fusing combat with other genres can help people get into these things, but other than completely changing what they are, fighting games have tried almost everything. If they get too far away from making the fighting good, then there'll be no point.

On the topic of 3D fighting games, this one is entering beta next month. Seems like more of a 'traditional' fightitng game but in 3D. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmqfIbR7Q4Y

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>>377487631
>>377497431

This video got me thinking: When we try to make the next fighting game, it's either in the form of traditional (street fighter) or "moba"(video you showed, or like For Honor).

One of the strenghts of fighting games is the combat is highly repeatable, and quick. What kind of environment would suit that? Mobile gaming.

Imagine just sitting on the train while getting bursts of matchs from another player anywhere you go. Fighting games are actually pretty social too, since you can talk about it with others, train, watch videos of other players, etc.

I think this style of introducing fighting game players will come in the future, when we can connect with people with a mobile device that is easy to carry around but still be able to do traditional fighting game motions.

>>377487631
Give French Bread a marketing budget so people will actually know their games exist and buy them. UNIEL is the best fighter released in years.

>>377497880
is there a ps4 release yet? played it a bit on ps3 before YLOD

Bring them back to their roots like sf2 and darkstalkers and the older KOFs.

>no comeback mechanisms that reward shitty play
>no FADC or vreversals that lets you make unsafe things safe
>increase walkspeed an insane amount
>increase damage output
>sub 5 frame reversals (2-3 frames is a good amount of time)

basically make them FAST and fucking hectic and hype as fuck again like super turbo, mvc2, kof98, and darkstalkers used to be

fighting games will never be popular with normies again. it's time to realize they're niche and make them for the hardcore audience instead of trying to dumb them down for normies.

>>377497945
Newest revision is releasing on PS4 in July. I don't think a western release has been announced yet.

>>377497989
hopefully it releases here but considering they aren't too popular I shouldn't get my hopes up.

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fighting games are way too hard, and they need to be accessible to a larger audience

>make them more like smash, 4+ characters on screen, for friends
>remove archaic inputs
>design them around controllers
>fun, whimsical art style and atmosphere
>no super fast gameplay
>no crazy cancels, combos, reversals, etc these are too intimidating and artificially bland
>no poor sportsmanship in the community
>game isn't all about being competitive but is about having fun

this is how you save the fighting game genre, by creating a great inclusive game like smash brothers that is just as hardcore as outdated fighting games while making it much more fun and for all audiences and ages instead of neckbeard losers fapping to waifus

>>377487631
>>377497820
post contin.

Technical limitations aside, I feel like this can work because of arcades. Arcades thrived because they were tied to as "the place you wanna relax and have fun with games". And since phones and the internet were still in their infancy, a community was built.

Of course, now that the internet and phones are here, arcades have been devastated. So why not move the market there, specifically on mobile?

Fighting games already exist on pc ofc, but it doesn't play to fighting games' strength: short matches means it'd be ideal on mobile.

TLDR: make fully functional, traditional fighters on phones that will allow you to connect and fight people without lagl. Also the phones must be able to accomodate sticks/pad somehow.

>>377497973
>no FADC or vreversals that lets you make unsafe things safe
Both are not safe but I'll assume you dont want mechanics that let you reset situations, burst included.
>increase damage output
So you want an unbalanced game where certain characters will be able to kill you out of 1-2 confirms tops. In short MVC3.

>>377498505
>>no FADC or vreversals that lets you make unsafe things safe
>Both are not safe but I'll assume you dont want mechanics that let you reset situations, burst included.
burst works because it's in a game with very long flashy combos where you can't really do anything if you get hit confirmed by a GG god

I'm not opposed to all comeback mechanisms, but they're too strong in games like modern SF, making them more shit. GG did it right for its game. Burst lets you get out of a situation where you're getting raped rather than giving you an overpowered move or an insane offensive advantage trump card. So, no, I'm not necessarily opposed to defensive tech like burst as a loser's prize.

>>377498505
>So you want an unbalanced game where certain characters will be able to kill you out of 1-2 confirms tops. In short MVC3.
You can balance around high damage. ST did it and many many characters were very viable.