>New Fire Emblem out >No thread How can /v/ justify this?

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Sonya or Deen?

>>377473052
Deen because he's better.

How long is it? Because I don't wanna blow through it all in a couple weeks but I still wanna play it. Should I just get it?

What's the best way to grind in chapter 1?

>>377472410
I think a lot of people are skipping this one and are instead waiting for the Switch game. It doesn't seem anywhere near as popular.

>>377473257
The Switch game doesn't even have a name yet, and plenty of people own a 3DS. I could probably see Fire Emblem being shown at E3, but even then it'd still be at least another year before it came out in North America.

I want to fuck Alm!

>>377473052
>it took like 15 games to make the 'mutually exclusive character' thing feel like an actual choice
They're both solid if not necessary. Deen is better but also more disposable since Dread Fighters are largely all the same. Sonia is weaker, but has a unique spell (Entrap) as well as the almost-unique Rewarp (shared only with Delthea, who is in the other army) and the only attack she needs (Excalibur.)

>>377473257
Why would you skip literally the second game of the series and see what it was?

I must be on an island of my own. Its really exciting finally getting to play this one legally.

>>377472410
i think i will skip this one because the MC can't marry the yandere childhood friend or the noble girl.

instead he stay with that stick in the mud princess.

>>377473947
Calm down Faye, Celica, and Clair

>>377473998

>Neo-FE shitters in one post

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>>377473171
I heard that it is short but that is just second hand info. I don't want to confirm it and get spoiled since I kind of want to play it too.
Not having MC waifu shit is nice but I have heard the maps are bland as fuck. Which isn't a big deal if you could deal with Awakening maps.
>>377473052
I like the character art this time around. Her chest and chest wear look nice. Cow tits from the last game was a bit too much.

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>Started game
>Grinding in Thieves Cavern
>Two groups of Brigands
>5 zombie things that are Level 20
fug. Is this RNG working against me?

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>>377473998
>instead he stay with that stick in the mud princess.
Anon, I...

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>>377473947
I wonder who's behind this post.

>>377474306

>I have made a terrible mistake

>>377474156
just like the Genwunners
>>377474306
until she dies of course.
faye go back to village and clair settle with the merchant dude and she never liked him.

>>377474448
>she never liked him
He grown on her as time pass.

>>377472410
>If you double tap the character's portrait on their status screen during a battle it zooms in on their portrait and you can move it around.
Highly unnecessary. Still neat though.

the stat shrines are a nice lil addition but are the hp ones that important? +1 spd to a character seems a lot more useful than +1 hp

>>377474517
i better play the genealogy of the holy war,it lacks neo waifus but have the love system.

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>combat is slow as molasses, units have inflated HP/DEF and take forever to both kill things and to die
>only 1 item per character, no more switching weapons depending on combat
>garbage maps, tiny, enemies just bumrush you
>leveling is fucking painful, shit growths all around with 1-2 stats per levelup
>very few supports between units, one of the starting units in Celica's group has ZERO (0!) supports with anyone else in the group
>the few support convos there are are extremely short and reeks of filler
>some party members literally get no characterization, Forsythe just goes "let me join" and that's the first and last time you hear him talk

A bit into Act 2 right now and I can tell this is going to be my least favorite FE

>>377474624
They aren't.

>>377474624
Well there are more variations of pairs that are more brain rattling but yeah. Pretty much if there's an HP one along with another shrine I usually go for the other one.

>>377473052
Sonya if you want to be a meta breaking fag, i picked dean because he just looks cooler.

>>377474706
There's base convo that flesh out the characters more and memory prisms.

>>377474706
The real MVPs are base conversations.

I want to fuck Clair.

>>377472410
Just started Awakening
Got Conquest and Birthright but I haven't played them yet
How is it?

>>377474876
Shut up, Tobin

>>377473052
Picked up.

>>377473052
Pretty. Waiting for 22nd cause the stock will only be at that store on Monday. Fuck, I hate waiting.

I can't wait to play and learn of the new cast. New to me, ofc. I'm a neo-FE shitters like oldfags would like to call.

>>377474189
I really love the character art; it feels like a return to the good old days. I don't think we've had art this good since FE8. 9 and 10 were good but I wasn't a fan of the faces.

>>377472410
Lukas sounds really fucking suspicious. They should have known better than to cast him as the guy who plays the morally ambiguous guy in every game ever.

>>377475210
This, the game actually looks like a Fire Emblem game.

>>377475304
i thought lukas would be one of those super secret antagonists that you only discover after he kills you.

is there an undub CIA yet

>>377475407
yes i got it at 3dsiso

Is there anything censored? Planning on getting it if Nintendo didn't go full retard this time.

>>377475781
No but, NoJ pull back on drinking items in all version of the game.

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>>377474431
Anon they show that in the opening cutscene after you start your game for the first time.

>Secret Shrine
So, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is where you promote into the Over Class DLCs.

>>377475939
Unfinished mechanics don't bother me. I just don't want NoA and whoever they farm out to translate to swindle me.

Is that male/female/other screnshot that's getting passed around real? What's it for?

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>>377472410
i miss awakening dread fighters

wielding both sword and tomes was pretty cool

>>377472410
When will it be on freeshop?

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>DUDE BOTTLENECK LMAO

worst maps design in gaming ever.

>>377476265
You can set a player card for Streetpass stuff. In the Japanese version it was Male, Female, and Terror (the undead things) and for NA, Terror was changed to Other.

>>377476172
The script, from what people can tell, is pretty much intact save for some usual over-exaggerations and shitty puns that you find in most localisations. You can tell it's an 8-4 job, but nothing was changed like, say, Awakening's localisation; nothing like Henry's character or something like that.

>>377473052
brah, I literally can't pick.

I want her coz she's hot but I already have too many mages and the sword guy seem to be pretty strong .

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POST MORE CELICA NOW

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>>377476382

I got you covered senpai. Just use FBI to install it via QR CODE. I just did it, works fine. Have fun.

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who cares
we heroes

>>377473171
it's long. hours in and halfway through arc 3.

>>377476067

I was making fun of his face.

>>377476738
>>377473171

13* hours

>>377476627
Deen's good, but nothing special. Celica already gets a bunch of sword users so Deen really doesn't fit any bill, although the Brave Sword is nice and Dread Fighters are strong as fuck.
Sonya got nerfed in the remake but is still solid enough, has a few unique spells and is a mage and they're always useful.

>>377476485
>be snowflake
>streetpass a japanese player
>your card describes you as a terror
Neat.

>>377473052
Deen
I have enough cute girls in my party

>>377476659
Thx bby

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Is Faye a yandere? bitch's fuking crazy

>>377477106
Obsessive, but too much of a beta to be a yandere.
She's also a cunt.

>>377476659
Don't suppose you have the USA DLC as well? I wanna break the game on my second playthrough.

>>377473998
This is bait, but Alm and Celica have so little chemistry I'd have rather they made him Roy 2.0.

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>>377477221

I do not. Sorry.

>>377477325
Dang. Ah well, I can wait. Thanks for replying though.

>>377473171
This is how you end up with a backlog.

>This game is so good, I don't want to rush through it
>I can't give the game my full attention, i'll just play this other game
>Never get back to the first game

>>377472410
We are waiting for it to drop on the freeshop.

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>>377474706
Welcome to the NES era.

>>377477221

What does the DLC add to the game?

Why does the animation look like shit compared to Awakening or Fates?

>>377477604
https://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-valentia/miscellaneous/downloadable-content/

Grinding DLC, Starshards to increase growth rates while held, prequel chapters, new supports and 4th tier classes (or 3rd for 2nd tiers).

Also some free stuff.

>>377477498
In the time you were waiting for it to drop on freeshop I downloaded the cia, installed it and beat the game.

>>377477604
EXP/silver/gold grinding, T3/4 classes and support conversations.

Should I change Lukas to knight immediately or lvl him up some more?

>>377477757
I believe the opposite. Battles have a lot more weight to it and have more impact. Animation is more fluid too.

>>377477757
You mean the combat animations? Get your eyes checked. Echoes looks a lot better.

>>377477769
>>377477764

I just downloaded what that anon linked, I'm assming it didn't have any DLC on it. Can I play this and then download the dlc when it becomes ready later on the freeshop? Or is it best to wait alltogether for the freeshop and the dlc.

>>377472410
I'm cutting grass and breaking pots for money, I'm pretty sure everyone's been lying to me this whole time and I'm playing discount zelda

Also the game is ruined because the flat grass rotates with the camera.

>>377477839
Immediately

>>377477886
IT should be fine to wait. DLC is just a separate file, so you just need to download the DLC file later whenever someone uploads it.

>>377477841
>>377477870
Except Mage animations, I was pretty disappointed by them.
>Crit is same as finishing blow animation.

>>377477841
>>377477870
Not that animation, the cutscenes. Everyone is so goddamn jerky.

>>377475304
I keep thinking something is off about him but i have nothing to justify it, so if he stabs me ima be upsetti

How is the dub? Is it at least decent? I prefer not to play undubs if the setting doesn't call for it

>still not on Freeshop

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>377474706
>asks to join and thats all you hear of them

...like most of the series???

>>377478103
>Everyone is so goddamn jerky.
well you tend to be a bit sluggish when you're carrying a weapon, anon. Anime may have you fooled, but battles using large heavy weapon are very jerky.

Do enemies scale with your level? And do these overworld enemies ever stop spawning? They're a nightmare to deal with when they overlap with a story objective.

>>377478261
No.They will sometimes but, its kind of random,

>>377478173
its breddy gud m8

>>377477304
Do they? They're pretty cute in the prologue, that's too bad.

>>377474950
Awakening is perfectly fine, but the support system is broken and the maps suck.

Fates/If has the opposite problem where the maps and support system are fantastic, but the child characters are completely shoe-horned in and the weapons have no degredation at all. Also the UI is shitier, there's less info available on both weapon effectiveness and unit type, for example there's no way to see if a character is considered flying or dragon or beast via icon. This isn't too big of a deal since it's obvious but it's still shitty.

Someone needs to mod Awakening to have Fates' unique skills, dual support system, and map design

>>377478385
They have fine chemistry with each other.They don't always see eye to eye on thing which I find refreshing.

>>377478251
Still misunderstanding me. Here, have a look for yourself:
Fates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=algL-KWrQww
Echoes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyvZF531--g

>>377475110
>I'm a neo-FE shitters like oldfags would like to call


Don't worry, oldfags act big but most of them aren't even oldfags, just Telliusfags that haven't played Gaiden.

>>377477498
If you have FBI see
>>377476659

>>377474706
BUT NO MU

BUT NO WAIFUS

THIS MAKES IT BETTER THAN THE NEW GAMES IN EVERY WAY

>>377478567
OOOH, I see. THOSE cutscenes. My bad, I actually just skip them after a while.

>>377478103
they probably cheaped out on that.

>>377478567
They probably didn't want to go all out with the cutscene budget since this is only a remake.

>>377478385
The prologue and the years of distance is the extent of their relationship. The game doesn't have enough scenes of them exchanging dialogue.

>>377478502
They don't see eye to eye because one of them is retarded. Their spat felt forced.

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Fernand sounds like my kind of guy desu

>>377478567
>>377478103
>>377478670
>>377478718
I'm pretty sure it was deliberately going for an anime aesthetic, making the 3D less apparent.

>>377478865
>REEE COMMONERS
I dunno, he kind of just annoyed me.

>>377478173
If you're the sort of person who can stomach dubs in the first place, this one isn't too bad. I found the animation quality more distracting than the voices most of the time, and that fault falls squarely on the nips.

>>377478865
>is willing to throw his life away because he's assravaged at a non-royal leading an army

>>377478807
Because Celica didn't want her husbando to go off and get killed in war when "muh mother" can solve all the problems, hence why she was being a bitch.
She regrets it later and apologizes to Alm when Hacylon lets her speak to him.

>>377478865
>ISIS expects us to pay $20 so we can see more of him and losers like Clive

Kek

no thread because its not a waifu simulator fire emblem, which means it will flop and FE will go back to being an ignored series

>>377479070
Hey that's not fair.
Lukas is a cool guy, and I'd like to see Clair be a cunt to Mathilda until she gets over it.

>>377474294
yes, eventually powerful guys show up the more you spend in the dungeon

>>377478410
Thanks, that's all good info to know

>>377479039
Her inability to find response to an immediate threat just is what makes her retarded.

When should I be promoting my units? I've been trying to get all of the villagers to level 10 at least.

>>377479271
I'm not disagreeing. Celica was retarded in Gaiden as well. The only difference is that this time she has FOUR people to tell to to stop being retarded and ultimately fail.

>>377479374
As soon as possible.

>>377474624
the +res/+def ones are amazing for units who have shit in those areas. +exp i use to level to next class change and others i don't really touch, unless a unit is getting bad stat rolls. fucking Boey has shit atk compared to mae, so much so he has become a liability as of chapter 4

>>377472410
>missing Kliff and Faye
Was I supposed to go back to the village at the start of the game to get them? Is there any info on the class progression posted anywhere? I'd like to get a visual on what I'm doing with my characters

>>377478650
I accepted that Fire Emblem will always be full of waifu faggotry, but MUs are pure plot cancer.

>>377479385
Hell, one of them slaps sense into her. Her deal with Cheddah needed a serious rewrite.

>>377477519
wow is that really one of the earlier games? I only got into FE with Awakening so I have no idea

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>>377478921
The entire fuck the commoners thing he has going on gave me some Algus/gath vibes

Duma should have brought him back to life after he gets roasted

>>377479441
How did you miss them? You're just supposed to talk to them. At Ram Village at the start. Did you just not talk to them? Better hope you're not on Chapter 2 or they'll be shipped off to Celica.

As for promotions, Villagers promote to any of 5 classes depending on gender.

Male : Mercenary, Soldier, Archer, Cavalier, Mage

Female : Cleric, Mage, Pegasus Knight, Cavalier.

After that it's just a straight promotion line. Except Mercenary eventually can go back to Villager for infinite leveling if you really care. Except it would take forever.

>>377479441
How the hell did you miss them? They're standing in the entrance of the village, or did you just forget to talk to them?
If you're not too far go back and pick them up because Alm needs them as they're pretty good units. Kliff is one of the best units in the game. If you're already at Chapter 2 you can grab them as Celica by going back to the village.
In terms of progression, the usual agreed on promotions are
Gray - Merc
Tobin - Archer
Kilff - Mage
Faye - Cleric
You get another villager as Celica named Atlas but he only works as a Merc.

I was grinding Est for a bit at that dungeon right before the end of Chapter 3, has anyone else run into the giant skelly? Apparently there's rare spawns?

>>377479403
Does that apply for all characters, or are there some I should level up before promoting?

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Pros:
>No pair up system so no turning half of my army into useless stat bots to backpack superunits
>Marriages and romances are premade so no forced supports that end in a shotgun wedding
>Most units don't feel particularly OP or UP
>Better story
Cons:
>Garbage maps
>Shitty one item only system
>Dungeon exploring gets tiring later on
>Fatigue is useless and unnecessary

>>377479763
nah, i've seen him
i think it shows up if your powerful, as my guys were almost at 2nd class or there already

or if you just waste enough time in a dungeon, i have zero idea

>Palla has 13 speed as a level 7 Falcon Knight

Where did I go wrong.

>>377479879
Palla is the bulkiest of the Whitewings. Her def growths are better in favour of her speed.

>>377479817
i feel like the one item system is there because of no more weapons breaking

fatigue is there for extended dungeon crawling
it WILL fuck you up if you don't restore it, moreso on hard

>>377479817
>>Most units don't feel particularly OP or UP
oh some units are definitely underpowered

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>The desert sections in Act 3 of Celica's route
>the final map in the area where the mage spawns endless terrors as you struggle to move inside due to desert terrain
Why do the enemies not have limits on their summoning skills, but not you? Jesus christ.

>>377479807
Try to get Alm amd Celica as close as 20 as possible before promoting, they both only get one promotion so only 40 levels total(so do the pegasus knights, but that's up to you if you want to grind them). Alm should get to 20 easily but Celica promotes at the end of Chapter 3 so just get her as high as you can unless you really want to grind

>>377479994
Except the game throws so much food at you you should never run out. I was in the Thabes Labyrinth and had so much food I was running out of convoy. It's such a dumb system.

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>>377480065
My Celica is level 13, should I grind or just let her be?

>>377479986
>Palla 13
>Catria 12
>Est 11

Doesn't seem like such a big difference since Palla also is the highest level of them all.

>>377479994
I'm playing on classic and I've never had a problem with fatigue. The game hands you so much food it becomes a nonissue.
>>377480001
I feel like some units are underpowered until you promote them. In which case they sort of catch up and stop being useless

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>tfw i'm not even halfway through my Revelations playthrough and my copy is getting here on the 22nd
kill me

>>377474156
Er, you could marry alternate people in the GBA games also.

>>377479879
palla has always had shit for a speed growth m8

What's better for Faye, Peg or Cleric? Mine has been getting some great attack and defense level ups, and I wouldn't mind having an extra peg for Alm's army.

>>377480418
Cleric, she gets early physic and is basically the only dancer in the game since only she learns Again.

>>377479662
>>377479728
I was pretty tired when I started my playthrough and after I talked to the Lukas in the town and picking up items I left. I honestly didn't even know you could get them until I saw screenshots

>>377480408
there was no preset relationships in the GBA games though besides Pent and his wife, unless you count Ninian and Eliwood.

>>377480140
Up to you really. I just got her to 15 in the dungeon, didn't feel like wasting more time.

>>377480564
Better hope you're not that far or else it's off to Celica's party or immense babysitting for you.

>>377480418
Cleric has early physic and she can actually take a hit even in cleric.

>>377479817
>Most units don't feel particularly OP or UP

Apparently Dread Fighters are really broken in this game. Haven't leveled up far enough yet to tell though.

>Shitty one item only system

While it is pretty limiting, I actually am liking it so far. As long as DLC items aren't being thrown your way, it urges you to optimize item distribution and can let you try different loadouts.

>Garbage maps

Fuck swamps and fuck summoners and fuck walls and fuck mountains, they trigger me (me not (you)). Agreed.

So far, I'm having fun.

Still, what's the general consensus? When do you change class?

I've been waiting for level 10 for villagers, but instantly for everyone else.
From what I've read, that seems best but I'd rather hear the autistic howling of /v/ because they're usually right about this.

just got lukas to level 7 should i promote him right away? ive heard people say promote all units asap but i wsnt sure if they meant the villagers or all units

>Start of Act 4
>Facing Berkut
>Didn't bother to train 4 units: Forsyth, Python, Delthea and Clive

I don't think this is going to end well. Is there even a reliable place to train low level units on Alm's side?

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>>377472410
Yes, pretty much. I've only played awakening and blazing blade and big fan of first three advance wars

>>377481084
Reclassing immediately is perfectly fine due to wonky growths and promotions fix any poor bases anyway.

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Finished Echoes. What's your FE dream game for Switch?
>MC like Hector or Ike or Ephraim
>Keep pair up system, nerf guard stance, remove stacking, and make it only apply with units that are adjacent of each other like Disgaea
>Thracia map design
>Genealogy story with children
>Echoes artstyle
>weapon triangle but add cavalry into the mix
>traditional item inventory
>bring back durability but make it so that you can repair weapons like in genealogy
>blazing sword characters

>>377474950
I like Awakening. /v/ calls it the worst, but it's really really not. Good characters, good maps (how does /v/ not like them? Of course, some of them do suck), and I like the support. Even liked the marriage/children stuff.

But very easy and the story is nothing special.

Conquest has best gameplay but the story is so so so so so bad. Birthright is... okay. /v/ hates Revelations but I don't get it. It probably had even better maps than Conquest.

But yea. Awakening is better than all 3.

>>377472410
Just got to the part where you start as Celica?
Anything i should know? I heard i can miss characters

>>377481084
>>377481092
Promote asap, since promoting bumps up your stats to the bases of the new class and if you already meet them you don't gain anything extra stats and get a bit of HP instead so you don't miss out on a whole lot. You can't really guarantee any solid growths so it's just better to promote and fix your stats that way if they need to be fixed and have your units all caught up.

>>377481540
>MC like Hector or Ike or Ephraim

I love how MUs are called mary sues when way larger ones exist.

>>377481519
Yea, I see. I heard that you can also consider reclassing a bit later if you are getting good exp growth. Truth is: they're around level 5ish and they level up fast. I'm not even remotely grinding, so I might just keep them unreclassed till I see the exp take a dive.

>>377481624
Hector and PoR Ike aren't mary sues.

>>377481370
Anyone else get the limited edition today?

>>377481595
What. There's no benefit to leveling up?
Well, I mean you COULD surpass the stats of the new class so that's a plus... but I guess I see your point... it's mainly +0 and the occasional +1 at this rate.

Hm, I need to think a little. I probably shouldn't have any issues late game, but I said that about Conquest lunatic

Which is stuck at the final boss battle

>>377481665
Well it's not like a few extra levels hurt or anything. The way it is, it's more like grinding three levels and getting the stat you need three times versus promoting right there and just getting that +3 in w/e all at once.

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Nobody cares about Echoes.

>>377481624
I'll take badass mary sues like ike over pussyass mary sues like corrin any time of the day

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>>377481827

>>377481845
There's no promotion bonus in Gaiden/Echoes. It just bumps your stats to meet the bases of the new class. Even if you surpass the base stats for the new class you only get some bonus HP and nothing more.
For example, you wanna promote someone to a Myrmidon. The base speed for the class is 14. If their speed is below that when you promote it bumps their speed up so that it hit's the Myrm's bases. On the other hand, if you have 15 speed by the time you promote you don't gain any extra speed.

>>377481541
>Conquest has best gameplay

oh boy, the memes

>>377482162
Well, of the 3 games, it does. It had the best maps and most varied conquest conditions. That's not a meme. That's a fact. In terms of anything else, they're all the same.

>>377482128
Right, but now you have an extra speed.

I see your point though. Might not be enough.

>>377481953
>Comparing a barely promoted remake to a sequel that was promoted to death

>>377481121
Delthea isn't too big of an issue. She already has the damage to back her up but she's glass as fuck. She just needs a little bit of babysitting and protection in the beginning and she'll be fine. Her glassness will always be an issue that you'll have to account for regardless.
Clive is just an ok unit. If he's not up to par with everyone else at this point then there's really no need to. Same with Forscyth and Python, although I guess it depends on how behind they are.
If you really need to grind just backtrack to one of the dungeons with enemies around their level and grind it out.

The character portraits are gorgeous. I really like the art style in this game

Is using the merchant to send a item to the other side a one time thing, or is there a way to make him respawn and how?

>>377482393
With wonky growths it's not really feasible to rely on grinding. That one speed you also could've easily not gotten in x levels of grinding before promotion.
Of course there's always the chance that you get blessed and and like 3 speed in 3 levels before promoting but that's something you really can't know beforehand unless you abuse Mila's turnwheel and reset the game to reset your growths for that level.

>>377480516
oh fug, I made her a pegKnight. Do I have to start over? I'm doing pretty good with her and she does some good damage

>>377482689
There are multiple merchants that pop up throughout the game.

>>377482663
I agree. Also the battle animation improved, i refer to the fact that terrain is actually where your unit is and not same generated enviroment like awakening

>>377480418
She's basically equivalent to Clair as a peg, if not worse. I'd say a second healer with physic and rescue is more handy than a second Clair. And eventually she does become a refresher.

>>377481092
Lukas falls behind if you don't promote him ASAP

>>377482826
She puts in work as a Peg. Knight too. It's just that her utility as a Cleric is really fucking good.
Really it just boils down to if you want Faye to be more offensive or utility based.

>>377482393
Grinding past the promotion level is honestly more of a waste of EXP too that could be used to faster promote more units.

>>377481624
Its worse with My Units because they're more obvious self-inserts.

What's the level cap for Peasants?

Also, is there some way of getting units to fight random encounters solo like you could do in FE8 to train them up as fast as possible?

>>377481624
Because the MUs have no personality for the sake of player self-projection, and serve exclusively to satisfy the player's libido.

As much of a power fantasy as Ike was, at least the game didn't force you to watch dozens of hours of him molesting every woman in the army.

Inb4 people start wanting that to happen now that I've said it.

>>377482954
Very well, I think I should reclass


But I'm guessing make Alm and Cecila hit 20?

>>377483252
Or at least as close to 20 as possible. Celica's promotion is story locked and happens at the end of chapter 3 so you got to double down on her grinding for a while if you wanna hit as close to 20 as you can. Alm's is also story locked but isn't mandatory so you can take your time with him, although he should be close to 20 around the time you do unlock his.

I haven't updated my 3DS in about a year or so. Is it worth updating for this?

"maybe gaiden will be fun now"
>it's not

not sure what I expected really.

>>377483515
not if you havent hacked it yet. just spend a day hacking your 3ds

>>377483678
I hacked it long ago, but I never bothered updating the firmware afterwards, since it seemed like a pain. I think it's still sitting at 10.0.3 or something.

>>377483751
install a9lh on it and then you dont have to worry about that shit anymore and you can just update and continue to get free games with no worry

>>377483789
Guess I'll do that later. There shouldn't be any problems changing over from using rxTools, right?

>>377474706
>Combat is slow as molasses
The animations certainly feel like the fastest of the 3DS FEs when sped up. Regardless just turn Map animations on. Every FE has this problem and map animations fix them almost every time (outside of PoR. PoR is always slow.)
>Only 1 item per character, no more switching weapons depending on combat
Not strictly true, as you can grab shit from the convoy and trade weapons between characters still, but I see your point.
>leveling is fucking painful, shit growths all around with 1-2 stats per levelup
This always feels like a non-complaint to me. If the game is balanced well around low growths then this simply isn't an issue. Beyond that the game gives you the stat-increasing statue heads fairly frequently to alleviate this issue.
>The last three points
People have already mentioned the memory crystals and base conversations. I certainly agree that I wish that they'd done more with some of the characters, though.

>>377472410
How long is the games story mode?

>>377483952
thats what i came from, just make sure to backup shit constantly and just dont be stupid. mine took a long time cause my sd card i was using decided to corrupt mid process but i backed all my shit up and had no problems once i realized that's what happened. took a long time but its worth it, rxTools had terrible loading speeds and a9lh is so much faster and juts better in everyway

>>377484070
Maybe like 30-40 hours?

What's the level cap for villagers?

>>377484284
Probably 20.

should i play birthright or conquest?

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>yfw

>>377484325
Jesus.

I don't want to be insane and cripple myself by sticking to villagers for the entire first chapter, so is there a way for single units to fight random encounters alone rather than being accompanied by other units?

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>>377484396
>"Oh man I can't wait to start up Echoes I really like Gaiden so I'm gonna enjoy thi-"

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>>377479541
Its the game Echoes: SoV is a remake of.

Echoes: SoV is literally an NES game with a fuckton of new coats of paint and some extra content. It may look new and nice, but at the heart of the game is something from the early 90s that remains unchanged.

>>377484428
You don't get the preparation screen right off the bat. I think it unlocks either in the middle or near the end of chapter 1. Or was it in chapter 2.

>>377484396
Can't see the image. I'm on mobile. Is it that stupid "Alm stabbing Celica" cheapshot that was obviously recycled from FE13?

>>377484650
What level? Is it before or after the level you fight Slaydar?

>>377483651
It's basically less clunky Gaiden, but still Gaiden nonetheless. The only people that will like it are people that could somewhat stomach the original.

>>377484179
Damn that sounds pretty meaty

>>377484810
I don't remember. I want to say it unlocks when you fight Slaydar.

>>377484934
So, it's not unlocked until Celica starts.

Is Sofia Castle even doable with all villagers as villagers?!

>>377484934
Pretty sure I had it coming into the fight with the Mercenary with the leather shield.

>>377485154
Well shit I don't know where I got my answer from.
Honestly everything before the Deliverance Hideout is pretty fucking forgettable besides saving Clair.

>>377485154
Yeah, I'm about just after recruiting suddenly-Ojou Clair.

But I'm asking if battle prep is possible for random encounter fights.

>Sound Test code still works like in the original
Fucking neat.

>>377485143
Well, you should have Silque and the Lightning Sword. Plus Alm is fairly self sufficient himself and also has access to convoy for healing each turn.

>>377485268
Battle prep is available for all fights, except for ambushes. once you unlock it.

>>377484396
i think im finally sick of the 3ds' shit res. normally devs try and play it off with low res videos but whenever there is actual cutscenes like that one where its just artifacting fucking everywhere its so ugly.

>>377485268
If you mean the dungeon-crawling battles, I don't think so. Unit order affects the starting positions of your units on the random encounter maps, so you do have control in that sense.

Just ordered the LE today. Gotta wait until Monday to play the game even though my standard copy arrived earlier.

>You need 5 Gold Marks to evolve the Blessed weapons into the Regalia
Well then.

>>377485571
you can have multiple copies of them right? I find that funny

Is chapter 2 just Celica and crew island hopping committing pirate genocide?

>>377485478
Dangit. Grinding everyone up to level 20 is just gonna be an abaolute pain.

Everyone in this thread put themselves as Other in their profile right?

And who did you pick as your profile picture?

>>377485689
Yes.

Prepare for eternal chokepoint stalling against infinite waves of skeletons.

>>377485571
>>377485674
>Range 8 Parthia Skill
I was pleasantly surprised when someone pointed out I could just make one myself and cheese the post-game boss.

Which I will never do again, because that dungeon is the most tedious piece of shit.

>>377485716
Luthier.

Why the fuck is Clair a blonde-haired Ojou? Did they seriously think they needed to differentiate her from Catria that much?

>>377485876
Why not? She didn't have a character before besides being liking Alm and being a tsundere to Gray.

>>377485941
But why the hell is she specifically an Ojou? That archetype is supposed to be reserved for troubadours, for christ's sake!

What is the C that hovers over my characters' heads?

>>377486235
It means go C-uck yourself

>>377486235
C-rank support with that character.

If you're played Gaiden, you've basically already played Echoes.

i wish alm was real so he could be my uncle

>>377486339
Ah, that's logical.
>>377486290
I tried.

Who can Luka support with?

I read somewhere that you should promote units as soon as possible. Is this true or am I being rused?

>>377486605
>Supports in Echoes.
Hah.

https://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-valentia/characters/support-bonus

Only Clive. Passive supports with other Deliverance Members.

>>377486627
Fucking read the thread, this has been asked at least 3 times now. Yes, generally you want to promote units as soon as possible. The only characters you want to try and get to level 20 are Celica and Alm.

>made tobin a merc

he feels really shitty compared to gray, have i made a mistake?

>>377486627
It's literally all up to you. The growths in this game are generally very low, lower than even FE11, and villagers are very weak units.

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>tfw Mae gets a crit from 3 with Thunder and one shots Bart through the castle walls
im getting so many god damn crits in this game. I get at least 5 per map often all in a row while no one has more than a 8 on the stat

>>377484396
That fucked me up a little bit when I started playing it today.

>>377481540
Friendly reminder that hector mode isn't canon and we're never getting another ike because japan doesn't like that kind of MC

>>377486797

In fairness enemy stats aren't high either so it all balances out.

>>377486871
>and we're never getting another ike because japan doesn't like that kind of MC
Then why did he get a sequel?

Don't say because Soren is there

>>377486881
Given how punishing the doubling system is, I find that irrelevant.

Also, I'm playing on Hard.

Do you get to clean rusted weapons later on? or do you use them a bunch to evolve them? assuming you can

>>377487085
Take them to a blacksmith.
Gotta pay up them Silvers.

>>377486819
BIG HURTY LIGHTNING

>>377486761
Tobin really only works as an archer. You could also roll him as a mage if you really need the early Excalibur protip: you don't.

>>377487495
U wot m8

My Mage Tobin took out almost all of the Cav boss' HP in a single attack at the end of Chapter 1.

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This game looks aesthetically pleasing. The menus are great.

>Beat Berkut in the beginning of chapter 4
>Characters wonder which way I will be going next, to burn the witches or to kill another no name boss
>Either way I get my shit pushed in because Alm has some suck ass units

>>377487695
it really is, its the first thing that stood out to me when they first showed this game. The art is top notch for everyone and everything is very simple and streamlined. If the maps were better this could easily jump to my top FEs from my current position in the game.

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>>377472410
>swamp map with 3 summoners
>your team only has one healer

>>377488405
This map does not exist.

Celica is a side healer, you should have promoted at least one other mage along side Genny, and Celica's party gets access to multiple self-healing items along the way

You're the worst sort of shitposter

>>377487495
Tobin only worked as an archer in FE2.

Tobin is fine now

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LMAO

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>>377488804
That

>recruit atlas at the village
>move one point away from the village
>ambushed
>atlas dies before i even get to have my first turn

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>>377488509
>This map does not exist.

>There are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who killed Slayde first and didn't get the Dracoshield

Why are you so impatient?

>>377486797
It's just normal leveling pre GBA. You normally only get 1-2 gains per level. I honestly wonder how much this is driving people crazy not hearing multiple dings.

>>377489006
that made me laugh way too hard

>>377488405
>He doesn't have Mae, Boey or Genny promoted
>He didn't recruit Nomah at the beginning of chapter 4.

>>377487495
>Tobin really only works as an archer

Gaiden Tobin, they did some rebalancing. Amusingly enough, they nerfed Kliff and he's still godly.

Tobin is a fucking brutal mage now.

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So does the Golden Apple cause an all stat level up by itself or did I seriously luck out big time on that shit?

Why are all my archers hitting on each other?

>>377489057
And? Its a chapter 4 map, you should have Genny, Celica, the Angel Ring, a Blessed Ring, the Holy Sword, Nomah, and either Boey and/or May to heal by now, maybe some other things I've forgotten. And summoned terrors are fucking garbage filler except that one dude who summons dragons, who is not in this map.

It's obnoxious and slow, but it's far from difficult. Especially in a game that lets you reload a turn

>>377488374
>>377487695

I swear the animations are better in this time around aswell.

>>377489736
You got lucky

>>377489894
They are, Fates didn't have shit like dodges turning directly into attacks and whatever else. Echoes is basically a tech demo

>Sonya will never give you a nursing handjob

Why live?

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>>377489918
>next level up was five stats
I guess my Celica is off to a pretty blessed start so far. This sure doesn't feel fucking normal.

How's the difficulty? How would you compare it to Conquest? (which in my opinion, was greatly balanced on Hard and some of the maps actually required a good amount of planning)

>>377490742
I havent had alot of trouble so far and then i went to the shrine behind the first necrodragon and fuck. got my first death due to Bonewalkers double teaming Mae. Besides this current dungeon it's been fine, nothing too hard but not too easy. You do get alot of units and i only use 4-5 each map, im also playing on Normal/Classic

having alot of fun though

>>377490742
Significantly easier. The only dangers are stuff like getting swarmed by tons of summoned foes or millions or getting cheesed by 5-range archers hiding in desert castles.

>>377473052
Sonya because the game is already enough of a sausagefest and she's easily one of the most attractive females. Also she's much more unique and opens up more possibilities than just running up and hitting things.

>>377492082
>already enough of a sausagefest
>that's a bad thing

>>377492189
>being a fag
But this really is basically waifufags vs husbandofags, though IS tried to skewer it in favor of husbandofags in this case.

>>377473052
>Have to choose between a Hidari-drawn goddess and a future Dread Fighter with high bases in a game where DFs are fucking amazing

Fug

>>377490217
>nursing
Sonya would give you a handjob only to leech the life out of you

fine by me

>>377492385
Its funny that I haven't much cared about the previous choices of this kind

I mean, Samson or Arran? Johan or Johalva? Echidna or Bart?

>>377492310
At least with this the pandering is just in the background and not in your face like with Awakening and Fates.

>>377492901
I just wish they left them as being more equal. IN Gaiden they were pretty equal and the only reason Sonya was so much more popular was because she was the best mage in the game. In Echoes they blatantly tried to make him the more appealing option, though even then they may not have succeeded.

Just started.
Is there no way to check detailed stats of enemies before you approach? Things like total hit rate, or total avoid rate. I can't find it, and can't decide if I'm a blind idiot or if it's actually not there.

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Maybe I'm still early in-game but I'm enjoying this Zelda 2-esque departure from the series' conventions such as weapon triangle, weapon and magic uses among other things.

Also being able to class change and promote early on is a pretty neat idea.

Mages using HP for their magic to heal others and do damage is an interesting risk vs reward factor.

Silque seems like she'll be pretty useful down the line already with Nosferatu to keep herself up while healing the other party members.

>>377493458
>Nosferatu

Not with that fixed 60 hit rate, which means when you use it, it will always miss but enemies with a 60 will hit you every time

>>377493557
Maybe it was just the map with the Knight when you first use her, but I was able to get it to hit every time I cast it and during counter hits as well.

>>377493458
Oh boy, wait till Silque gets warp, then the REAL fun begins.

>Fear Mountain Shrine

Wow, this dungeon is actually pretty good.

Which merc is the best merc?

>>377487495
Tobin is a crit machine merc in my playthrough alongside Kliff

>>377495731
Seiba

>>377477106
fanatic autist for /a/lm

>>377495731
Gray

On a random note, is FE 6,7 and 8 the only time that the main characters use a power that was originally made by humans to defeat the big bad? All the other FE games seem to have divine dragons or gods helping the main cast defeat the final boss.

>>377493046
Just seem weird to me all these cute guys without it being an otome game Don't mean to give IS ideas

>>377497245
The stones from FE8 appeared from the heavens too. The weapons don't have a origin if I recall, the heroes just used them

>>377472410
Too much Fire Emblem games in a short time. Nintendo doesn't know how to let their IP breath.

They exploit it to the core, then they realize the sales aren't as good anymore so they forsake it for fucking years and, restart the cycle again.

Anyone bought the CE(usa)?
Is it worth it for those who bought it?
I like to have nice shit on my shelf so just wondering, im sure as hell going to pirate the dlc before this turns into a ">not pirating" kinda shit

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>reach chapter 4
>no more milla's divine protection on celica's maps

DROPPED HARD

>>377500007
The new one is better and so is Alm's.

>>377493698
>that fucking shitty ass range

Silque is fucking trash so far. Good thing I turned best girl Faye into a cleric. Silque is still level 11 while Faye is already a fucking saint.

>>377500143
I agree. Dat irregular meter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOB4ZPukubw

>>377489062
I crit by accident. I was mad