>gba had battle network and zero >ds had ZX and Starforce

can't make disappointing game, if you don't make any games.

Is it just me or are the Megaman Zero games hard as fuck? My only real exposure to Megaman is Battle Network and Xtreme 2. I tried playing the first Zero and remember dropping it pretty early.

Gunvolt is probably going to be as good as it's going to get in the field of Megaman because Comcept and Capcom keep fucking up endlessly.

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Post yfw first boss in Megaman Zero

I don't even want a completely new Battle Network. Gimme online BN multiplayer, Capcom.

>>377462443
>buy Gunvolt because I want more megaman
>they release a non-fucked version on Steam
I was so pissed that I completely forgot about Gunvolt 2
Is it good?

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>we almost had Legends 3
it still hurts

>>377463264
Yes.
Copen is super fun to play as.

>>377463264
At least they later put the nonfucked version out on 3DS after like, 2 years. I forget if you had to buy it or not if you already had the old eShop version. I don't think you did if you got the GV1 3DS update.

GV2 is great. Copen's playstyle is basically Rocket Knight Adventures on crack. It's much tighter than GV1 and that can be off-putting at first but it feels nice once you get the hang of the new weights on basic jumps and dashing. The new bosses are all pretty cool too, getting to actually fight Zonda was equal parts nice and infuriating.

>>377463606
:(

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>>377459714
It has Gunvolt and Legend of the Dark Witch.
Yeah.

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>>377461585
Zero 1 is pretty fucking hard. The games honestly get easier the further into the series you get, with 2 having the best balance I think. But Zero 1 doesn't give you much breathing room at all, especially not with the bomb defusal mission. The only thing I can suggest is grinding up your weapon skills if you have the patience and raising Cyber Elfs to use.

>>377467415
>using cyber elves gives you a permanent score penalty
fucking christ that series hated fun

>>377467814
>>377467415
That series was all about busting your balls for better or worse. Sometimes the harder a game is, the more fun you get out of it, but I dunno. Jumping and slashing at shit in a small screen just feels kinda spastic.

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>>377459714
>3ds has nothing

Well, that's not entirely true.

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>>377462721

Not first but

>Mfw that last boss for MMZ3

Legit my favorite final boss in the whole of Megaman's legacy

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>>377467415

>Zero 2
>Harder than 1

Sorry but I don't quite agree with this. Maybe it's because I tried S ranking both, and Zero 2 is literally the only Zero I never managed to S Rank by the end.

Personally I found Zero 2 to be way more brutal, not because of its lack of breathing space in comparison to 1, but because of the sheer increase of spastic, punishing, more difficult patterns and setups through the areas.

>Protect Ciel mission
>All the Guardian stages and that frog dude's stage
>Fighting that beetle after the protect-Ciel mission and being subject to his vortex attack and finding out the only way to dodge it is by sending him off course by hitting him constantly with the buster

Zero 2 really wanted to make you cry.

>>377468468
OP was very clearly talking about new games, you insufferable faggot

>>377463264
>>they release a non-fucked version on Steam
They did. And I absolutely loved it.
And then they super fucked up Gunvolt 2. And there is no guarantee it'll ever get a non-fucked version on Steam. Somewhat unlikely even.

Sadly it looks like Gunvolt will always be plagued by awful localization.

>>377469182
what's the fucked up stuff you guys are talking about? just localization or are there gamebreaking bugs too?

>>377471975
Literal re-characterization of characters.
Lines where half the dialogue is simply discarded.
Unrelated 4chan memes inserted, such as begging for "(You)"s and crap.

It's pretty bad. Going from the fixed localization of 1 to the terrible localization of 2 is a real downer.

>>377472469
Well, there's this:
http://gematsu.com/2017/05/azure-striker-gunvolt-striker-pack-announced-switch

>>377459714

3DS HAD Legends 3 until it got canceled due to the lack of community support.

>>377472938
>digital only
I wish localizations weren't so cheap.

>>377459714
ZX was unironically the best 2D Megaman games.

>>377474363
Not with that map.

>>377474363

>That unnecessary map system that brought no real benefit
>Over half the Biometals being of poor execution and useless
>Unchallenging and uninterestingly forgettable rogue gallery aside from Prometheus and Pandora

ZX was okay, absolutely not the best.

>>377463264

> non fucked

What do you mean?

>>377474363
There exist 3D Megaman games aside from X and legend?

>>377474668
He means non fucked.

>>377474750
Star Force, I guess.

>>377474668
The original localization had most of the dialogue cut from the game. And what was left had a questionable translation, to put it mildly.

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>>377474563
I never forgot Hivolt for some reason.

>>377474151
>Paid demo meant to actually gauge interest was ready to go
>Never released

"due to lack of community support" my ass

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>>377476114
>somewhere in this world on some harddrive exists a playable MML3

>>377474363
It would be tied with 3 for me if it wasn't for the fucking map and open world. They should have done what zero 1 did, you can select every mission ala a menu, but could also freely leave and re explore the areas.

>>377472469
>Unrelated 4chan memes inserted, such as begging for "(You)"s and crap.
Teseo is a giant memelord in the original version too. How many times must we go over this?

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>>377476060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42CO4L7zyBw

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>>377459714
>We'll never get ZX3 because ZXA didn't sell too well and basically marked the end for the series
It still hurts. They had the plot set up for Master Thomas and everything. Worst part is no third female MC to go alongside Aile and Ashe.

>>377459714
I always wonder if she found the helmet, making her creating the biometals (remindee that the biometals are "copies" of their souls, not actually them).

>>377476217
And on cart.
One Western journalist got to play one in full English before it was taken back.
I've also heard there was also going to be a big open demo event in Japan, but it was canceled due to the tsunami.

>>377476443
I said unrelated memes. Not that there shouldn't be memes.

>>377468360
I was really hoping the collection on the DS would increase the viewport a little bit to make use of the bigger screens on the DS.

>>377476459
Of all the Zero series, by far advent was the worst. It just felt too different from the Zero style, and strayed more into X. Also amazing idea to let you play as bosses, oh but fuck you all the bosses are dumb as fuck and giant and move like molasis. And no pandora Prometheus form is horse shit. Really I'm glad the series ended. 4 was an amazing ending, ZX was a great follow up, ans then Advent was just off.

>>377459714
Both Zero and ZX were mediocre series, though.

>>377477198
Advent isn't a Zero series game. It's a ZX series game.

>>377463264
And now Switch gets an even better version that runs at 60fps instead of 30.

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>>377476217
Knowing Capcom, they already deleted it.

>>377474363

Advent, maybe.

As much I have a soft spot for the ZX games, the first one has pretty big issues.

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>>377477198
While I do agree that the Zero series is the superior series, ZX and Advent are technically a separate series that are within the same Zero continuity. Zero series is much tighter and more high-skill/high-reward, but the ZX games are still pretty fun in their own way and bring some interesting new things to the table like the biometal models and A-trans (which could have been better, it does get stale after a while).
They obviously had at least a third game planned out, likely to be the last of the ZX series, but Advent selling poorly killed those plans. I imagine that they would have either had a third pair of MCs with Aile/Grey and Ashe/Vent being supporting characters, or it would have been a direct sequel to Advent with a slightly older Ashe/Grey as the main characters with Vent/Aile playing major supporting roles. Probably would have reused A-trans or expanded upon it in concept. It could have been cool, shame it'll likely never happen now.

>>377477660
>digital only
Fucking why? Did 2 bomb that hard?

>>377476923
Well how else are you going to translate memes?

>>377477468
no.

Just get Gunvolt
Inti has more to do with Zero/ZX success than Capcom

>>377463132
I don't ever expect this to come out. but apparently online "net battles" will be a thing.

http://www.mmbnchronox.com/

The demo is fairly long.

>>377474230
For the steam release you can get the jap voices and better translation.

>>377478243
http://www.4gamer.net/games/314/G031464/20170512116/
The Striker Pack was a limited edition thing.

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>>377478243
Probably can't find anyone to publish it for them. I wonder if they'll remove Shovel Knight from it?

>>377477198
ZXA improved upon a lot of things.
>Psuedoroids were never meant to be replacements for biometals, they add much needed depth to ZX lacking platforming.
>ZX had a shit map system, let's fix that by not making it a fucking bee hive.
>Giving non Rock-on a goddamn gun is genius!
>not having to manually derock-on everytime I wanted to talk to an NPC? shit is amazing!

>>377478557
The Striker Pack has that too.

>>377478610
>I wonder if they'll remove Shovel Knight from it?
If they do I won't buy it. I have the amiibo but I never got Gunvolt 2.
Did Europe ever even get a physical release? The wikipedia page still says
>In an official Twitch stream by Inti Creates on August 20, it was also revealed that Europe would be getting the digital version on September 30 as well, but the release date for the physical version remains unknown.

>>377478431

This.
Capcom will never put out a megaman game with any effort, or something other than a "retro throwback" ever again.

Inti is the way to go.

I'm not even sure where capcom will go now that they are the 142351431st company to discover "we want to appeal to a wider audience" with SFV DOESNT SELL and KILLS FRANCHISES which in turn TANKS PROFITS.

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>>377468667
>mfw boss returns in MMZX and you can play as him

>>377478845
Europe never got a physical release.
Also, the Shovel Knight fight sucks because he literally only has two attacks and an improved version of one of those attacks later in the fight.
The item Copen gets from it is interesting though.

why didn't they port gunvolt 2 to steam? gay

>>377479000
>Europe never got a physical release.
And that's why I never bought it. The 3DS really was fucking awful when it came to digital games.
Also. I would have appreciated an official statement claiming, no, there'll be no physical release in Europe. That way I could have just forgotten about it.
Instead I tried to check in on it like once a month or something until I legitimately forgot about it. At the very least, they could have made it clear so that I wouldn't have had hope for nothing.

>>377478480
I played this and good lord, the artstyle for the new character is full edgy, the controls have some kind of delay and the soundfont used is horrible.
Shanghai.exe feels more like a Battle Network game than Chrono X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXYacgor7RY

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Is Aztec Falcon the king of casual filters?

>>377459714
>GBA had MMZ and MMBN
>DS had highly inferior sequels to both
>"Why don't they make more?"
Really jacks in my net navi

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>>377472469
It's really funny playing it with even a modicum of nipponese listening comprehension as the game is fully voiced. Tone and characterization is constantly butchered through the subtitles (see Nowa, somehow the proper maid archetype becomes casual action movie banter like everything else) because 8-4 is made up of repressed scriptwriters who can't help themselves.

Not to mention the retarded name changes, I get that some of it is supposed to do with fear of copyright from car companies or whatever but who the fuck are they kidding? Apparently the entire English audience because everyone acts like they can't hear every other character being called something completely different.

I guess Capcom didn't set the highest bar for localization back in the day anyway but Gunvolt really gets the shit end of the stick and it really rustles me to see people eat it up. I would honestly recommend against picking the series up, at least 2, if you don't have a decent ear for Japanese, unless you plan on ignoring the story completely - not that it's necessarily great, but the characters and voice acting are a big draw they obviously put a lot of work into
>>377476443
Teseo's dialogue was destined to translate poorly but I have to say they went above and beyond in making it terrible and cringy, his stage was unbearable reading the subtitles. The 2ch meme filled dialogue of Steins;Gate read pretty well all things considered, i don't think it's any excuse.

Gunvolt replaced Mega Man.

>>377481948
Where's Gunvolt EXE, Legends and X then?

>>377472469
>Unrelated 4chan memes inserted, such as begging for "(You)"s and crap.
Is that actually a line?

>>377482262
Dead with no replacements

>>377482420
Not him, but i remember it but can't remember who said it.

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I'm glad there aren't any more fucking mega man games being made. I didn't even care about the series until my hipster friends found out I've never played Mega Man II and started literally begging for me to play it. I tried AirMan's stage and I died almost instantly because of fucking bullshit. Pic related. You touch the spikes and you get knocked back for some fucking reason and Mega Man fucking dies instantly. And if somehow you survive that then the game spawns a gauntlet of enemies comes out and fucks up your jump. It's retarded. This kind of game design should be left behind in the 80s.

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>>377482632

>>377482632
obvious bait

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>>377482509
I think it was the guy who had a "NEET" shirt in his design concepts.
Could be wrong though.

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Who's your favorite Megafu?

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>>377483087
Roll
Caskett
Iris
Iris (EXE)
Luna
Levi
Ashe

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>>377483087
Roll is the only one for me.

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>>377483087
Aile, my waifu. Ashe is also pretty good.

>>377459714
>3DS HAS MIGHTY NO.9
oh wait...

>>377483087
>DRILLHAIR
>SNEK
>CUTE FACE MASK
>TSUNDERE
>DAILY DOSE
Really, what more could you want?

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>>377484347
pic related

>>377467415
Zero 2 would be the best game but it had such a shitty final boss. I kind of prefer Zero 1 and 3 overall, but 4 is good too.

Probably one of the more consistently quality Mega Man series, helps that they actually ended it.

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>>377483359
Roll is indeed super cute, no mater the era

>>377483087
Dynatron

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>>377483087
Gunvolt has pretty good girls desu
Too bad you kill most of them.
>>377472938
I'm glad the switch port is coming with 60fps. That and 12 seconds of loading every time you retry in GV2 (on o3ds at least) are the worst things about the games. Kudos system from 2 is a good addition to 1 as well, 3 strikes you're out is a hell of a lot less frustrating than 1.

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>>377482771
>bait
More people than just me share the same opinion, megacuck

>>377484486
Didnt finish it,but zero died in the end didnt he?

>>377485096
>gamefags
>gets shit on by users anyway
You're just proving that was bait

>>377485173
Yes. It was metal.

>>377485283
>I don't like this game, and here's why
>"B-But you have to!!! It's a cult classic! You're not allowed to dislike it!!!"
Lmao, are Mega Man fans really this desperate?

>>377485372
>It's a cult classic!

I don't think you know what "cult classic" means

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>Inti Creates announcing new titles this week
>just Mighty Gunvolt Burst and Gunvolt collection for switch

FUCK

Look I like gunvolt and all, but I really just want a proper MMZ and ZX follow up. They can call it whatever they want, but I want proper run and shoot gameplay, and less button holding.