Why is there no backwards compatibility? There's a lot of

Because you can get a PS3+E3 flasher for like $100

Because then they wouldn't be able to sell you the game at full price, plus keeping costs down after the PS3.

Because the PS3's architecture is really unique. In order to make PS3 games work on PS4 they would have add a bunch of extra hardware into the 4's, which would make them more expensive.

Thankfully Sony learned their lesson and made the PS4 with more accessible architecture. If the PS5 has the same architecture than the 4, then expect PS4 games to work on it next time around.

>>377459141
this. Why let masses re-use their libraries, when you can just make'em re-buy it all?

on top of that: keeping unit costs as low as possible. Even at 559$, PS3 caused losses to Sony

Better shell out that $20 a month for PS Now

>>377459002
Because then you wouldn't have to use PlayStation now

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because they already won, why waste money on extra features

because they don't care about the #players

>>377459002
I kept my ps3 so I don't care. It's nice having a bluray player/netflix box in both the bedroom and living room anyway.

Wouldn't even get rid of it id ps4 was backwards compatible.

>>377460037
>I kept my ps3 so I don't care. It's nice having a bluray player/netflix box in both the bedroom and living room anyway.

Not to mention it can also play CDs.. which I found out the hard way PS4s dont when I bought the new Gorillaz album on CD, tried to play it on my PS4 and it told me the disc couldn't be read..

The PS3 is seriously the ultimate entertainment media box.

>>377460004
DELET

>>377460597
The PS4 can't play cds? Fuck me, how?

>>377460708
DIS

>>377460597
Did you install the media player?

>>377461950

Nope, it can't.. I dont know the reasoning behind not implementing that feature. I realize not alot of people play music on CDs anymore, but some do. The only reason I can think of is having to pay some kind of royalty which is not worth it to Sony for the amount of people using CDs, but thats just my guess.

>>377460597
>>377462265
Never mind.

Fuck me, it really can't play CDs.
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps4/videos/videodisc.html

How the fuck is that even possible that they found a DVD drive that can't play CDs

>>377462265

Yeah I did. I'm up to date on firmware and everything. Still can't play CDs. A quick search on google tells me the PS4 indeed cannot play music CDs.

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There is, but it's worse than the XBone's BC in almost every way.

>>377460037
I should add that there's nothing better than having consoles on all of your tvs OP. I would really suggest buying a ps3 if you have 80-100 bucks or so. Remember every single model is backwards compatible with ps1 even if you don't want to hunt down a decent working fat with ps2 capability.

Between my ps4, ps3, and 360 I'm also covered with ps1 and a box of OG xbox titles as well. It's great.

>>377462436
The only upside is you can play from your PC and xbone BC is console only....but yeah, it's shit.

while we're on the topic of stupid PS4 shit, could someone explain what the fuck it's doing during the "preparing to download" phase where it goes slow as hell?

>>377462642
It goes slow as hell even when it is downloading.

>>377462341
>How the fuck is that even possible that they found a DVD drive that can't play CDs

I'm wondering the same.. it all goes back to Sony somehow having to pay royalties to someone for the playback feature. It's the only reason that would make some kind of sense for this basic feature.

>>377462994
This is fucking rediculous - I'm installing Destiny and it has moved 2% in 10 minutes in "preparing to download"

From googling, allegedly it's doing a file hash on everything locally first to figure out the diff between the latest patch and what you have. But the speed is fucking bullshit.

>>377462642
"preparing to download" IS actually downloading, its just a shitty version of it where it adds a patch to existing content and it royally fucks you over if u want to pause and restart because then instead o resuming, it starts from the beginning.

but watch. after its done "preparing to download" it doesnt even take a minute to finish the rest of it.

>>377463639
just finished
>48 minutes remaining
16 gigs to go

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>have 45Mbps down
>PS4 hooked in wired ethernet
>still only downloads at max 1MB/s
>50GB+ games

I'm really loving how the library is finally shaping up, but Sony fucked up extremely bad with its entire PSN infrastructure.

>>377463404
PSN speed has always been shitty and will always be shitty. Japs unironically still use fucking fax machines in day to day business there. While they aren't nearly as bad as Nintendo Sony is still a Jap company and will never be able to properly into network, at least nowhere near a level approaching M$. They legitimately think these speeds are excellent.

>>377464571
Get this
>connected via wifi
>16GB update file
>fuck it, I'll run an ethernet cable
>download goes dramatically SLOWER

I don't get this. According to PS4's network test, I get 7Mbps over WLAN and 80Mbps over wifi.

it can, its just been locked down by sony, there isnt anything stopping the ps4 running a ps3

> buy pyshical copies of games... Still have wait ages for entire game to install before I can olay

>>377464571
I was watching a baseball stream a couple days ago that some reddit faggot was streaming from his toaster to like 25-30 people and it legit was going over twice as fast as the usual psn download.

And that was with me on wifi.

>>377464894
Different hardware. PS3 was a clusterfuck and is hard to emulate

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>cucks coming out of woodwork because they think microsoft will win E3 "again"

At least I can watch Rick Bayless make tacos while I wait for this shit to download

>>377464894
Just the architecture. But honestly that's irrelevant anyway because owning a fat PS2 BW compatible PS3 with a 500gb-1tb HDD is the patrician way to go irrespective oF whether the PS4 had BW compatibility or not.

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>buy physical copy of game
>install 60gb onto harddrive
>install 40gb day one patch
>only 400gb left on harddrive
>3 min load times even when only died 10 seconds ago
wow I sure love the power of the PS4
>inb4 upgrade with a 200 dollar SSD
>meanwhile BotW loads on a fresh start in 20 seconds

>>377465191
>entire thread is people discussing the multiple sony consoles that they own
>hurr durr must be xboners false flagging
Take your juvenile console wars faggotry to another thread, we were having a good time in this one.

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>>377459057

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>>377459002
Just preorder the HD remakes of all your favorite games for the low low price of 59.99 friendo.

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>>377459002
But then they couldn't sell you the game for full price again?

they wanted a $400 price point

>>377465191
Dunno why you posted this, not a single statement in the pic is true.

>>377460597
New gorillaz ablum, very bad

>>377459501
>Because the PS3's architecture is really unique. In order to make PS3 games work on PS4 they would have add a bunch of extra hardware into the 4's, which would make them more expensive.

except they did exactly this with the ps3 at launch and that's why it costed 600$ since it had a fucking ps2 inside for retrocompatibitily

>>377459002
BECAUSE POWER OF THE CELL.

ps3 was a piece of shit im so glad cell tech is dead.

>>377466568
that was made on pre-release info. shitposters don't care about staying up to date though.

>downloading
>99+ hours left

>>377459606
>Even at 559$, PS3 caused losses to Sony
later ps3 models can emulate ps2 games from isos, just not from a physical disk. that's why you can buy ps2 games digitally.
they could let you download an emulated version of the game and use the disk as a check that you own it, which is what the xbone does with 360 games, but obviously that means you could use your own games instead of having to rebuy them for full price.

>>377467095
original PS3 had a literal PS2 inside of it

>>377466861
If the PS4 had the cell then PS3 BC could've been possible.

>>377467191
the later models can still emulate them.

>>377467095
I might be reading your post wrong so forgive me if I am but are you suggesting the PS4 could emulate ps3 titles? Because given the absolutely fucktarded architecture of the PS3 I can't see how that would be possible other than the way they're doing it now, with ports and streams.

Hell a PC can't even emulate that clusterfuck for shit.

>>377467348
I think only some games and it had some issues. Original had 100% compatibility

>>377467348
Not him, and while you're right, emulating a ps2 and emulating a ps3 are entirely different animals.

>>377466960
>>377466568
>ITS BETTER NOW WE SWEAR! THEY TOTALLY ARENT TRYING TO RAPE YOU IN THE ASS.... COME ONNN!!111
get fucked and fuck any moron that sat there defending that shit

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>Not having your 1 tb ps4 pro and 500 GB slim ps3 both hooked up

>>377467515
not defending the xbone at all. there are tons of reasons why it's bad without having to resort to telling outdated and untrue info.
take a break from shitposting and look at how pathetic you're acting.

>>377466310
While this does have a bit of a basis in fact sometimes HD remasters are worth it given the sales PSN sometimes runs.
For instance I got TLoU remastered on sale for 9.99 on PS4 which included Left Behind which I hadn't played yet. I already had TLoU on PS3 and they were charging 9.99 for Left Behind.

So really I just bought Left Behind for the same price and got an upgraded copy of the game as a bonus.

I've been thinking about getting a scorpio when it comes out, assuming it's just an xbone that runs multiplats at PS4 level. I'm not too impressed with the backwards compatibility list though, there's no Dragon's Dogma support. Like how do you look over one of the few gems of 7th gen?

So they can resell you all those PS3 games as 'remasters' and shit.

>>377467919
Dragon's Dogma bombed with normies, it's way down the list on M$'s priorities.

And if Capcom's participation is needed for some reason then you can pretty much write it off as never going to happen.

>>377468315
I still think there's hope since they're apparently still adding onto their BC list. Just saying though no Dragon's Dogma BC support no Scorpio purchase from me.

>>377468120
The Nathan Drake Collection and Last of Us remastered were both pretty good values to be honest. The jump to 60 fps alone was great. There are far more egregious remaster exploitations than the Sony's IPS.

Looking at you Gearbox.

>>377468676
I don't know what platform you play it on but presumably you already have something. Do you need to sell whatever that is in order to afford the Scorpio? Because if not there's no real reason you can't roll the dice.

>>377469209
Last time I rolled dice I got a PS4. I want to know what I'm buying next time.

>have to switch between LAN and wifi every 15 minutes or so during downloads to get full speed
Sony is retarded

>>377467919
It's more amusing that Capcom went through the trouble of porting the game to PC but didn't put it on XBone/PS4.

>>377459501
This they would have needed to include PS3 hardware like the original PS3 fats which included some of the PS2 hardware.

Still does not entirely excuse them though because MS has backwards compatibility through custom emulators but I imagine emulating a PS3 would be way harder than a 360.

>>377464571
Makes you wonder where the fuck your money for online goes

There's like a 99% chance that the PS5 will have BC, right?

>>377459057

Yet it runs like shit like the Og PS3. Xbone has games running better on BC

>>377459002
PS3 had obscure architecture and PS4 isn't nearly powerful enough to emulate it. So they'd need to include PS3 hardware in PS4 in order for it to play PS3 games.
Problem is, we're 4 years into the PS4 gen now and they got the price down to $250 for slim with a 500GB hard drive, and for PS3 the lowest they could ever get it is with 12GB of flash at right around $200 and that's after it's been out for 11 years now.
So best case scenario they get the price of PS4 down to $600 at launch and don't lose too much money on each unit sold. Remember what happened last time they launched a backwards compatible console at that price?

>>377469652
Assuming they don't go full retard with special snowflake hardware like the PS3, yes,

don't have a ps4 yet, but still play ps3 fairly often.

But if I did wanna upgrade, should i get the pro or a slim?
> No 4K TV
> already have a zeldabox

>>377469710
I think people not being more vocal is a bad thing, we need to let them know we want BC. Because why wouldn't they just push psnow instead you know?

>>377459002
Because no-joke it would have fucked over the PS4 you fucking moron.

The PS4 beat the Xbone for 2 reasons: It won e3 because Sony gained love while Microsoft gained hate. More importantly, at launch the Xbone was $100 more expensive because it forced you to buy a Kinect.

My point is that adding Backwards compatibility would have raised the price of the system considerably, most likely by $100 or more because they would literally just need to put a PS3 into the system, just like how early PS3 has PS2 in them for backwards compatibility, which is why the PS3 was FIVE HUNDRED NINETY NINE US DOLLARS at launch.

With that much of a price raise the clear victory of the PS4 would be a murky victory or possibly even an outright failure if it ended up making the PS4 more expensive than the Xbone.

>>377470049
pro, at some point devs will start fucking over the slim. Also the HDD is nice.

>>377470121
> mfw a ps4 slim is $500 in ausbucks

>>377468676
Capcom hasn't let any games be BC for awhile now aside from the very first SFIV (yes, the first version nobody wanted since it's beyond outdated).

>>377469384
PS4 turned out pretty good for the price though. Meme's aside it's got a solid lineup of exclusives now, with more to come, and is still the best console multiplat machine. Personally I'm not sweating my $350.

Not to say this will have any bearing on the Scorpio but as of now PS4 is pretty far down my list of gaming mistakes. If Scorpio ends up being the new multiplat champ + 360 backwards compatibility that could be really appealing.

>>377463021
The drives most likely can read CDs but the PS4's operating system prevents them from being played, just like the Wii DVD homebrew

>>377470364
OG, Pro or Slim

>>377469516
Jesus your right. Why port something over to DirectX and then not to the DirectX consoles?

>the city of japs

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>MGS4 port never

>>377470364
Scorpio won't be simply because MS is pushing play anywhere so hard. PC is always going to be the better option.

>>377470213
Let this be a lesson as to why you shouldn't try to run an economy with one commodity focused sector as your focus. Looking at you too Canada.

Oil and minerals don't stay expensive forever guys.

>mfw the australian and canadian dollar are only worth three times the turkish lira
Get your shit together f.am.

>>377459002
I still own my PS2 and its games, and I still own my PS3 and its games in addition to my PS4.

>>377470510
OG, but the second model where it has a matte finish all over. No shiney bits.
>>377470782
Yeah good point...didn't think of that desu.

M$ needs some solid console exclusives yesterday. God knows wtf they think they're doing.

>>377471097
they want to lock everyone into Win10/the windows store.

And then the assfucking will commence.

>>377470590
fucking please, just give it already.

>>377471167
It will never happen. They're delusional to think they have anywhere near the consumer trust to compete with Steam. All they're doing by abandoning exclusives is putting a knife into their console brand.

>>377471342
you underestimate the stupidity of the normie. Especially if they dangle the next Halo out there.

>>377470782
Yeah I agree with you that it won't take off. PS4 Pro already came out and while it didn't bomb, it didn't do particularly well either.
I don't see a lot of people jumping on a $400-$500 mid-gen console to play multiplats better when most casuals or budget conscious gamers that haven't bought a gen 8 console yet will opt for a regular bone or a PS4 in the $200 range instead.
Not to mention Microsoft has been shutting down their studios and canceling games like crazy the past couple years so there wouldn't be much first party stuff outside of Forza and Halo anyway. And if you did love Forza and Halo you'd already have an Xbone in the first place.

>>377471505
They've dangles the last two Halos and got comparative crickets.

I think even M$ realizes that there's no more milk in that cow.

>>377471546
The pro also played a lot of existing games with a worse frame rate than the original PS4.

>>377470121
You're fucking retarded they could digitally release the games

>>377472357
That doesn't solve anything, it isn't true backwards compatibility. BC is taking a game from last gen, putting it in the new machine, and having it just work. Being allowed to buy curated ROMS is different.

>>377472357
They did, on ps now and through remasters (ports)

If you think they can just release ps3 coded games to the ps4 and expect them to run you're too stupid to breath. The ps4 cannot emulate the ps3. Hell 99% of PCs can't emulate the ps3.

>>377459002
I know I'm not alone in this boat, but I can see where it would be a burden for people new to games or just new to a brand of console, but I never get rid of old consoles to make way for new ones. A console being backward compatible or not doesn't mean shit to me.

101st for Trump

>>377462290
>don't understand the resoning
It is actually quite simple. Sony doesn't want you playing older games and the PS1 games are just one CDs. The reason PS1 games all worked on the PS3 is because it was able to read CDs.

>>377472676
Explain how the xb1 can emulate xbox 360 games

>>377473537
DirectX.

>>377473537
The 360 wasn't retarded cell architecture.
The Xbone is badically a bigger more pwerful 360.

The PS4 is way different to the PS3

I just want to play Demon's Souls without having to buy a PS3. I don't give a damn about the other games.

As a side note, I only got to play Uncharted and The Last of Us on the PS4. These games are overrated as fuck.

>>377476651
Shit taste

>>377476975
Shit opinion

Normalfags will rebuy a game if it has 'enhanced edition' slapped onto it

>>377469564
I think microsoft backwards is not emulation but basically getting the original game and it's code and making a X86_64 build of it for xbox one and this is why only very specific games work on Xbox one and this is why you need internet and download something for every game to work.

>>377478697
> implying some of those HD collections weren't awesome

MGS & DMC trilogies were amazing

>>377459501
>third post in explains it
>/v/ still continues to post just to shit on sony
and they say sonybros are cancerous

>>377462341
I'm practically certain it is to save money. How they saved money, I believe, is by having an optical drive that only has one laser (used by Bluray) and not including the other laser (it's a different colored light) used for music CDs.

Being that Sony is one of the co-inventors of the audio CD (Phillips Electronics being the other co-inventor), there are no royalties.

Sony's just being cheap which is irritating as all hell. As if the consoles being made in China or Mexico or whatever crappy country doesn't lower costs enough as it is. It couldn't cost more than $3 or $4 to include audio CD support.

>>377479125
yesssss... keep buying the same thing over and over like a good little goy.

>>377480185
Not if you never played them before

>>377480054

sony jews its customers on a daily basis. The games with PSN are worse than dogshit given out on xbox, the BC doesn't fucking exist, and people still defend it to the death because "mUH EXCLUSIVES!!!" fuck sony goddamit they tried charging people a DOLLAR A FUCKING GIG.

>>377480185
> $20 for 3new games

Money well spent anon. I'm glad I got to experience mgs on my 360

>>377480320

a great fucking deal that should be BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE

>>377480298
elaborate

>>377480392
they are anon. But it was more convient to buy 1 collection than to hunt down orginal copies

>>377480586
you can't be defending sony ignoring backwards compatibility with later models.

It was god damn jewish of them to fucking go "Hey, fuck the other models if you didn't get that one, buy the games again you fat fucks."

I don't like companies that ignore the demand for BC because it's allowing people to play the games they have on their new console which is incredible value to the consumer. If microshit had actually included this at the start they would have done what sony did and crapped in the jap's mouth

>>377460597
>buying CDs in this day and age, clearly some sort of enthusiast then since most people use streaming/mp3s
>doesn't have a dedicated audio setup and has to use game console
What were you thinking?

>>377459002
Because people bitched that the PS3 was too expensive when it had BC.

You can't have this shit both ways. I supported BC by purchasing a launch PS3. You obviously didn't (or else you wouldn't be bitching about not being able to play PS3 games. I also purchased a Wii (BC with GC games) and a Wii U (BC with Wii games).

What BC consoles have you purchased, OP?

>>377480735
Semi related the ps vita memory sticks are probably the most anti consumer decision in gaming this decade.

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>>377469623
Right into the hands of the shareholders, family. Basic shit.

>>377467286
if the ps4 had the cell we'd have another ps3

>>377480735
Did you buy the launch PS3 when it came out, or did you bitch that it was too expensive? They listened to the masses, you know. People didn't want to pay more for BC, so they axed it to get costs down, and will instead nickel and dime you to the point where you wind up spending more for less.

Even with a launch PS3 (60 GB model), I still wish that the PS4 would be BC, as no console will last forever. But at least I voted with my wallet to try and support actual BC. What you are asking companies to do by following MS's lead is to give you a feature for free. Companies don't do that unless their back is against the wall.

>>377481006
No arguments there. I'm STILL salty over paying more than $1 per GB.

I thought you guys said ps3 doesn't have games?
Why the backpedalling now?
Why go back on your word?

>>377481006
I have no idea why sony did this. I know it's to make more money but did they really expect the normal consumer to buy this scheme? Only dedicated sony fans would have done this and sony overestimated the amount of fans they had for handhelds. the PSP was successful because of how modular it was and the games it had. Games sell systems, accessories are a money maker. YOu can't sell a fucking car without tires and that's what sony tried to fucking do.

>>377481252
/v/ is one person right?

>>377481006
This is why I will never buy one even if they get CFW (which they never will).
Sony just fucked up so hard with that, but weebs gonna weeb and drop obscene amounts of money on anti-consumer products because muh virtual titties

>>377469564
What I don't get is how they're able to play PS2 software bought from PSN but not off of a physical disc.

>>377481252
>I thought you guys said ps3 doesn't have games?
Uh huh, in 2008. Now the PS3 has the best library of the 7th gen.
Multiplats on it fucking suuuuucked though.

>>377481298
it's definitely a hivemind

>>377481130

that's not a fucking feature IT'S A GODDAMN NECESSITY YOU CORPORATE FUCKING DOG. If I've BOUGHT THE FUCKING GAMES FROM LAST GEN, I WANT TO PLAY THEM STILL. MAYBE I WANT TO TRADE MY OTHER CONSOLE IN TO FUCKING GET THE NEW ONE WHILE THE VALUE STILL HOLDS.

Get fucked you piece of crap. It's a necessity in 2017 while most people love their old games and don't want to go "Well fuck it I don't need this any more"

Do you just discard your shit every five years like a good corporate lap dog?

>>377478859
Huh, that's pretty interesting..

>>377481252
Don't know about PS3, but both PS1&2 have LOTS games and many are extremely good. At least we have emulators for those.

>>377481321
You realize you can just get a PSTV (for like 20 bucks), hack it, and then load and save games using the USB port, right?

Sony did a lot of things wrong with the Vita. But the PSTV, for all its flaws, more than makes up for that so long as you aren't looking to play a game that really requires a touch screen.

>>377470081

The reason people are buying xbones IS BC.

It's the only fucking thing saving microsoft's ass right now over PS4

>>377481385
I definitely want an explanation for this as well. There's even that thing you can download off the psn for ps2 software or whatever.

>>377466760
no shit retard, i don't even know why you bothered posting this, you just reaffirmed exactly what he had already posted.

>>377481254
Good analogy with the tyres. Add to that the tyres costing about as much as the car itself. All it did was cost them money in the long run as people didn't have the space required to buy their games. It completely ruined an otherwise decent handheld, killed any future Sony handheld devices handing that entire market share over to Nintendo.

>>377481785

I'm honestly of a mind that the japs at sony hated their handheld division and didn't mind to see it go.

If it's not PS4 they're not focused on it and I'm of a mind that they intended it to die. Why devs are still making games for it is probably contractual obligations.

>>377481445
>that's not a fucking feature IT'S A GODDAMN NECESSITY YOU CORPORATE FUCKING DOG

More than 57 million console owners beg to differ, regarding the PS4, and more than 85 million console owners beg to differ regarding the 360.

You vote with your wallet, and the companies listen. The market told them that including hardware to enable full BC wasn't appreciated, but that charging 50+ dollars per year for online was A-OK.

This is what happens when you aren't willing to stand for your principals.

>Get fucked you piece of crap. It's a necessity in 2017 while most people love their old games and don't want to go "Well fuck it I don't need this any more"
You're telling someone who voted with their wallet to support BC hardware being built-in to get fucked because you didn't, but now, in hindsight, you wished you had.

>Do you just discard your shit every five years like a good corporate lap dog?
Never given away a single console. Only game I've ever sold in my life was FFXII. My launch PS3 has been reballed and is still connected to my TV (along with my PS4, and my Wii U).

Don't be pissy because hindsight is 20-20. I can play my PS1-3 games just fine on my PS3, thanks to me voting with my wallet. You can't, because you weren't willing to show companies that you were willing to pay for it.

>>377481572
I'll be honest- there's not much of anything I desire on the Vita to consider getting a PSTV. I heard it's a solid little console, but I already have a PS4 which is keeping me busy. I loved the PSP for its emulation power, it was basically the greatest handheld gaming device ever. I wanted the Vita to be that but updated.

>>377481983
Yeah, well, presuming you mean emulation that wasn't on the PS Store, you're the reason all those anti-consumer practices got put into place.

>>377459002
I don't understand why PS4 can't play PS1 games.

>>377480054
$3 more per console with the 60 million they've sold thus far is already $180 million extra dollars they could have had instead of including CD support.
Scale things up to those numbers and that's how cheaping out little by little adds up.

>>377480735
> clearly talking about 360 HD MGS
> hurr fuck sony

>>377459002
What would be the best console for me?

I'm looking for a console that has very few violent games, and most games for all ages and all audiences

I hate pokemon


I hate the legend of Zelda.


I hate RPG's

And look for a console that is very cheap and very economical

>>377459002
The ps3 architecture was designed by aliens and possibly my boy Nyarlathotep as well. Humans can't accurately recreate it.

>>377482532
I've responded to this before. You don't want anything that has Zelda, Pokemon, or any RPGs on them.

Virtual Boy. You want Virtual Boy. Shy of Game and Watch, it is the only system with nonviolent games that also have zero RPGs, no pokemon, and no Zelda.

>>377482532
Are you the same weird guy that was asking for games like Dragon Quest or Call of Duty (no innovation, all the same)? Are you indonesian?

>>377459002
Because then you wouldnt buy the ps3 or the inevitable hd remaster

>>377482064
Oh boy, this old corporate bootlicking meme again. Just because piracy was a thing on the PSP doesn't give Sony the right to go ahead and make every little thing proprietary (and therefore pricegouged) on the Vita so no one will buy it. I bought like 15 or more games for my PSP, and then I bought a second one when my 1001 died. Don't tell me I'm the reason for anti-consumer practices because I like CFW because I have put in more than my fair share of money towards Sony's handhelds, before they went full retard.
it's 100% profits motivated and you're just taking their sob story about piracy hook line and sinker.

>>377482532

You want nintendo consoles but hate their IPs?

>>377482654
Nah, he's posted this exact question before. It's almost like the dude is trying to pose a riddle, because it's not enough that he purchases a system, but avoids the games. He doesn't want the things he doesn't like to even exist on the console. This leaves Virtual Boy.

>>377482784
>Just because piracy was a thing on the PSP doesn't give Sony the right to go ahead and make every little thing proprietary (and therefore pricegouged) on the Vita so no one will buy it.
It sure does. And they reaped the consequences of doing so (no sales). They can do whatever they want with the tech they develop, and have every right to fuck the consumer. And that's not bootlicking. To expect a company to not respond to the things that happen to them (both good and bad) is foolish.

>>377482789
I only hate pokemon and the legend of zelda.


I hate the RPG's Genre games

I am looking for totally direct games. Without obstacles, without having to rise level, without strategies.

>>377482943
Pong

>>377482943
Get a 3ds hack it then play any game you want for free

>>377482943

Play old atari games

>>377482943
>Without obstacles, without having to rise level, without strategies.
Sounds like you would love Crazy Bus.

>>377482943
Visual Novels.

>>377482532
You realise games are optional. Just avoid the ones you don't like.

>>377483091
He won't.

>>377482943
Conway's Game of Life.

you don't even need a console for this

>>377481939

I have an xbox you corporate fucking dog

I only bought one after they announced BC.

>>377483027
I hate hacks.

And I need games like FIFA, Madden NFL.

Games super easy and very direct.


Besides, I hate to play online

>>377483149
Goodie for you. What's your point? Did you buy a PS3 or a 360? If so, which one?

>>377483149
not him, but jesus christ try to put up a valid argument. other than "lol corporeyt doge haha"

>>377483212
>And I need games like FIFA, Madden NFL.
Then FIFA.

>>377483212
Get a ps4

>>377483212
literally buy fifa, pajeet

>>377483306
>>377483340

I need the FIFA 2016

>>377483212
>I want sports games on a console that offers no violent games, no zelda games, no pokemon games, and no RPGs whatsoever.

Doesn't exist, bud. Closest you'll get is the Super Nintendo, but they still have violent games (doom), a single Zelda game, and plenty of RPGS.

>>377483394
THEN FUCKING BUY IT

>>377483461
And any alternatives?

I dont know? Some current console, some micro console, an alternative console, other old consoles

>>377483553
>And any alternatives?
PES

>>377483553
build a pc and kill yourself

>>377483002
>>377483031

That games I can play them from my web browser

>>377483553
You can buy literally any console to get Fifa. But if you're looking for a console that doesn't have any of what you don't like, then you're shit outta luck. Instead, you just buy a console, and only purchase the games you like.

>>377483553
You have high functioning autism. Just buy a console and don't buy the games you don't like.

>>377483630
Disconnect your internet. Open chrome and press the spacebar.

>>377482943
Play in traffic

>>377483553
I want to murder you.

>>377481385
>>377481587
Its called money retards.

>>377483630

Even better you don't have to spend any money on something you don't really like

>>377459002
Hahahahaha, PC Master race laughs at you.

>>377459002
get ps3 and hack it, you'll play all persona games on it. Plus psp,ps1 and ps2 games alongside ps3