How the fuck do I aim in this? not even troll like how are people

git gud

don't waste your time on it though, this game is total trash

With the current netcode you simply don't hit anything

>>377438120
Lower sens, 144hz monitor and good pc.

If you have these things then all you need is to practice.

t. avg 62% rail accuracy

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>>377438279
your total trash

>>377438120
play lots of arena shooters in the past

>>377438498
I have highsens and I'm at 58% railaccuracy, low sens is not a must

Move to the city where the server is located or miss everything because the lag compensation is terrible.

Or just abuse gauntlet.

>>377438774
Enjoy your clunky movement, 3 second weapon switching, unbalanced characters, useless powers, horrible small hallway maps, hilariously horrid character boxes smash together with somebody the wrong way and you're both stuck in each other's model and can't move lmao, and terrible netcode.

>>377438918
>it's a I can't even gauntlet somebody who's AFK and standing still episode
>it's a I get gauntleted 20 feet away episode

>>377439028
>it's an Anarki with his fucked up hitbox swooping through the map getting double and triple hits at a time with the laggy gauntlet episode

I've never had issues hitting shit in Quake. Can't quite tell if it would be the same with Champions without the ability to turn down texture resolution to fuckall and turn everyone into grunt or tankjr.

How do I hit things in Overwatch? I see people nailing those pixel sized heads that move around like fucking circus athletes and it boggles the mind, honestly.

>>377439185
>its an anarki being a pain in the ass to hit with a railgun because he just took his crack and quickly taps left and right episode
eat this rocket you bitch

>>377439543
>it's a rocket gets fired 3 seconds late because I have over 15ping episode

>>377439852
please tell me they're going to get rid of that delay shit. I fucking loathe that inbuilt delay crap.

>>377439543
>>377439185
Who the fuck though making the fastest character have a goddamn healing ability is a good idea? That should be reserved for the slowest characters.

>>377438120
Like a boss on a ultra toaster at 30 fps

>>377440630
Don't forget he's also the smallest character and also the only one that can turn in air :v)

This game is such a disaster. All anybody wanted was a simple Quake 3 remake.

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>>377438120
i find it funny that a 20 year old game is still better than quake champions, and goons have daily games on private servers

>>377440012
It's a confirmed bug

>>377440749
Nobody likes goons and QW duel is better.

>>377440749
Have fun dying young at age 70

>>377440749
>goons
stop ruining eve online

>>377438498
>>377438864
how can you hit 60 rail in this game? I out aim pretty much everyone I see and I'm at 32 lg 51 rail average

>>377440936
you are aware that this website and the entire original userbase are all goons, right?

>>377440721
Just play Q3 then.

>>377441967
I only pull it out once I'm certain I can kill someone, maybe thats why
I don't really partake in duel/guessing work

50ping feels like 200,
shit.

>>377442043
>king cuck was an underage goon so you should lile goons
damn really got me there...

>>377440721
>This game is such a disaster. All anybody wanted was a simple Quake 3 remake.

Fuck no, idiot. I've actually been playing Quake for most of my life and the last thing I ever wanted was a Quake 3 remake. Quake 3 / Live are still there and they have anything you'd want done properly except something new. So why a remake? I was looking forward to Champions for something new and I like the class based approach. I still don't see anything really interesting done with it, but we'll see.

Do tell me though, who the fuck wanted a Quake 3 remake? Why?

>>377442441
>Do tell me though, who the fuck wanted a Quake 3 remake? Why?
Me. Modern Graphics.

inb4 autistic rage about graphics

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>>377442538
>not liking lego quake

what's wrong with you

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>>377442538

Near every single goddamn player out there uses r_picmip and here you are advocating for "better graphics". What's the benefit of that in a game notorious for people turning it into pic related? Where the hell did you pop out from and where does your attitude come from?

Click on enemies

>>377442538
Play q4max then it's quake 3 with crouchsliding.

>>377442721
>no floating head
dropped

>>377442797
Not everyone is an autist, Anon.

Although you're certainly skirting the line with your irrational anger towards anyone holding a different opinion :v)

>>377442838
That thing is like 10 years old senpai. I just want a modern Quake with an AAA budget and proper marketing.

UT4 is amazing, but it has none of these things and will be DoA.

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>anarki stole your movement
>clutch stole your armor
>your rocket launcher behind paywall

JUST

>>377443030
>Not everyone is an autist, Anon.

That's where you're wrong. Everyone in Q3/Live scene is an "autist".

I mean, I can tell you were never really into the game and I don't see how you think you're fooling anyone here. Fine, you want Q3 remade with better graphics, I heard Champions will/has a classic mode (without hero abilities) which is very similar to Q3, there you go. Now you can get into Quake. But people who were into Quake all along turn to Champions in hopes of something new.

>>377438120
this is one of the few games that is 100% twitch accuracy + skill. The best players are indistinguishable from aimbots. The best players can shut down entire teams.
That's why this game will never get popular, its too fucking hard.

Slash is best heroin addict waifu

>>377442441
Check your router, it needs an update.

>>377443131
Wat?

>>377443131
Kek

>>377443480

This has always been a bit of an exaggeration. Sure, Quake is all aim and all movement and the skill ceiling doesn't really exist, but hitting people in Quake is somewhat easier than most games. Can't quite tell you why that is the case, but it always felt like that to me. Perhaps because player hitboxes are as simple as they come and on the big side of things and because headshots don't exist.

>>377439028
I bet he sucks.

>>377443030
Then play Reflex or Diabotical or Warsow. Nobody plays Q3 clones because you can just play Q3/QL.

>>377443831
>headshots don't exist

>>377440721
You got it a while ago but you refuse to play it

>>377443030
>I just want a modern Quake with an AAA budget and proper marketing
no you don't
otherwise you'd be playing quake 3/ql
yet here you are bitching like a fucking jaded faggot saying "m-muh quake 3" when you don't even play that either because you can't recreate those memories you're so fond of.

>>377444038

Not in Q3. Are they a thing in Champions? Oh man, I'm gonna blow at this game.

>>377444075
No. It's like Quake Live where it tracks headshots but they do no extra damage.

>>377444075
>Are they a thing in Champions?

No, it's just an award, same as in Quake Live.

>>377444130
>>377444137
thank god.

How do you even bitch about this? Have you ever played any other games around here?

>>377444072
>>377443337
After all these years the autism in the Quake/DOOM community never ceases to crack me up.

>>377443901
I have my fair share of hours in Reflex, but something about robots just doesn't do it for me. I need gibs.

Is Diabotical even out yet? The kickstarter trailer looked neat but I'm weary about all the LE MEMES xDD

How the fuck do people play this game with low sensitivity?

How do you even rocket jump or turn around without doing massive arm movements like you're doing push ups or some retarded shit?

>>377445307
Gotta stay fit while playing that vidya.

>>377438120

Stop playing auto aim CoD, this is a real shooter, this is what existed before Halo 1 introduced aim assist.

>>377445368
I guess I'm just used to aim with my wrist and not my arm

>>377438774

> "your"

>>377445276
>After all these years the autism in the Quake/DOOM community never ceases to crack me up.
>wants quake 3 all over again, refuses to play Q3 itself because of graphics
>others are "silly autists" that "crack him up"

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>>377445457
>this is a real shooter
>everyone has different stats, starting weapon loadouts, and ACTIVATED ABILITIES

so it's basically overwatch then

>>377445496
penis best aim

>>377445307

Mouse acceleration is common practice in Quake. Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEamcaYyoa0

>>377438120
>babbys growing up on Halo, Call of Duty, etc chock full up aim assist, "perks", pacifiers and other babby shit hear that the "classic FPS" is coming back
>"Oh man, me and my bro crew are going to rip these kids up online!"
>1 actual Quake vet on any server
>"W-what the fuck w-why can't I hit him?"
>"He's too fast"
>Facebook: "Quake is fucking dumb. No one ever bother trying, trash game lol."

Expect a lot of this soon.

>>377445575

No, OW is input lag garbage with metas.

Quake is either playing normally or being fucking crazy and jumping nonstop with rockets and shooting where people will be.

Game is great.
Cannot wait till they add ctf railgun only,it can be that sacrifice game mode too if they add some decent maps.

When are they going to make the Nailgun not absolute garbage?

>>377445627
I could never play like this. Also i need a new desk with more space for my mouse movement.

>>377445534
>wants quake 3 all over again
I do, but with modern graphics

>refuses to play Q3 itself because of graphics
Says who? The wind out of your ass?

Keep squealing, autist :v)

>>377445627
He must be winning all them toruneys

>>377445627

lmfao, no it's not, you fucking idiot.

>>377445627
holy shit that friction
nigga's gonna start a house fire one of these days

>>377445836
>i need a new desk with more space for my mouse movement.

Same here. I miss my old desk so much. I played with a shitty mouse on fucking paper but I played better simply due to more place.

>>377445976

Yes it is.

>>377445859
Quake 3 graphics were on point, but what's wrong about modernizing?

>>377445726
>this

Pretty much, the only exception to this is nyx who feels like she belongs in a different game altogether.

>>377446153

Lots of people appreciate Quake for it's simplicity and the ability to make it even more simple via extreme r_picmip values and forcing player models and even turning them neon green for maximum visibility (eye is most sensitive to green). This ensured there's no visual clutter to get in the way of performance and it's how most preferred to play.

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Post good Quake frag vids

I'll start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3ui0hz6sm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V4ZaFbhYl4

>>377445726
and then you press your heal button or other dumb un-quakelike shit they added to the game, right?

>>377446856

You know there was a medkit in Quake, right?

Quake can absolutely work with abilities, it's just a matter of thinking it through carefully and adding game modes that benefit from them.

>>377446995
yes, a medkit that you had to spawn control, that wasn't a button you can press on demand for instant healing

member Team Arena?

>>377439028
enjoy being bad at a good game

>clunky movement

So Quake 3 Arena is clunky then?

>>377447058

Sure, but what's so inherently stupid about that? Why does a game have to completely 1:1 to be fun? In fact, if you played Q3 duel a lot, you'd know it's almost not exactly 1:1 because as soon as one player gains map control and more health/armor, you're fighting as an underdog who has to resort to different tactics to gain the upper hand.

As I said, there's no reason to believe abilities and classes can't be done properly in a Quake context. As far as I know, nobody ever really tried it. TF is as close as it gets, I suppose.

>>377447365
there's dozens of quake 1-3 mods with abilities or "techs" in various forms

Sniffing your asshole is not recommended

>>377447365
>Why does a game have to completely 1:1 to be fun?
because in this case, not being 1:1 casualized it, and casual games are not fun

>>377447968
They're not even out of beta, wait and see what they do with it.

And in any case, I've seen good players do good with every single class so far, so I don't see where your claim is coming from. What's casualized here?

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>>377448095
we already went over this, abilities and different stats help players compensate for lack of skill. you don't need to control pickups, just use your heal ability. you don't need to learn how to bhop or conserve momentum, proper air control was stripped from all but 1 character, railgun was nerfed so that it doesn't even OHKO when ZOOMED IN (when it shouldn't have a zoom in the first place, have these people even played quake 2 or 3?)

all of these things contribute to casualizing the game for babbys who have never played Quake before. and don't even start with "fatal1ty likes QC" he is also old and busted, past his prime, and shills for GAMER FOOD

>>377448352
>m-muh skill ceiling
You cant popularize the classic quake. You gotta mix it up. Games like this nobodys ever going to hit skill ceiling anyway so why would you worry about it that much

>>377448352
lmao did you even play the game or quake in general
only quakeworld has full air control and all of those things you listed still apply to QC
if you're going to bring up CPM for air control that also has nerfed railgun as well as quake live
quake 3 also has a zoom key bound to mouse3 by default

>>377448352
>abilities and different stats help players compensate for lack of skill. you don't need to control pickups, just use your heal ability.

Nonsense. I didn't even play the game yet but I quite clearly see that map control is crucial as it ever was.

>you don't need to learn how to bhop or conserve momentum,

Does the game bhop automatically? If not, you clearly do need to learn how to bhop and conserve momentum

>proper air control was stripped from all but 1 character

vq3 had no proper air control at all. Perhaps CPM air control is not exactly balanced in a deathmatch context, but as I said, all they need is a proper game mode that revolves around classes and properly using them for their respective roles.

>railgun was nerfed so that it doesn't even OHKO when ZOOMED IN

It was nerfed in Quake Live in comparison to Live in the first place and it's one of the best things they did. The reason this was done in the first place is because lag compensation was a lot better in Live and internet in general improved globally. Not to mention player skill. There's nothing inherently good about the idea of rail instagibbing you, it's a matter of taste.

>when it shouldn't have a zoom in the first place

Some people always zoomed. There weren't many of them, but they used the feature. I do agree that extra damage for zooming is stupid, it's just contrary to Quake pacing if you *have* to zoom in all the time to maximize damage. It's odd and just doesn't gel. I understand everyone hates this though so you can bet they'll remove it eventually.

>>377448883
>Perhaps CPM air control is not exactly balanced in a deathmatch context

I meant to say that it's not balanced if you mix CPM movement with VQ3 movement in a single game mode.

>Quake Live in comparison to Live
Meant to say in comparison to Quake 3

>>377448635
the zoom key does not affect how weapons function like it does in QC though.

This is quake, with champions. It is kept basic. Keep your suggestions basic.

>>377449154
yes i agree but you were mentioning there shouldn't be a zoom key in the first place when people have been zooming since quake 2

>>377449221

more game

>>377448635
>>377448883
why do you keep bringing up quake 3 or quake live when i am obviously referencing quake 1, not shitty CPMA memes

>tfw regularly meet and play against former pros in Quake

It's such a comfy feeling. I'm having a lot of fun learning from every match by getting killed by them and also killing them. The game itself is kind of shit though not gonna lie but I'll bear with it until all the former pros stop playing.

>>377449283

So quake 3 and live are just unplayable garbage, right? You've been playing the first game for 21 years and don't intend to ever switch, huh?

>>377449283
quake 1 doesn't even have a railgun nice goalpost moving

>>377449354
>quake 1 doesn't have a railgun
t. never played MegaTF or rocket arena, i bet you think rocket arena means the only weapon is the rocket launcher

>>377438120

I had to turn my sensitivity way up. Like stupidly up. The game is all about speed and if you can get good flicks and shoot under pressure, you should do fine. Try the shotgun since it has some forgiveness in precision, swoop in while enemy is distracted and aim for the head/upper body. They'll die pretty quick if not from a single shot. Then get the launcher and practice airshots and leading your targets. To me, the other weapons seem stupid. The machine gun is only good for holding down m1 while you run. The damage isn't quite high enough to reward aim with it. It's more for keeping people from chasing you. Sniper is useless unless the enemy is dumb enough to stop moving or not attack you while you aim.

>>377449442
megaTF has no railgun nice goalpost moving
if you mean the sniper rifle i guess they should be designing QC like action quake 2 then since it was so popular

>>377449617
>megaTF has no railgun
lol, the engineer has it.

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the only ppl shitting on the game and claiming we were supposed to get "quake 3 with modern graphics and a new playerbase" are oldcel slavs who wanted a conveyor belt of fresh meat to slaughter and show off their elite skills

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>>377449934
to be fair, the entirety of /v/ used to be that way. shit talk and destroy other people until they improve their skills through constant humiliation and defeat.

>>377449708
the engineer's """railgun""" is a single shot slow moving nail projectile
nice goalpost moving

>>377449934
Not really. I think at least 90% of these people don't even play Quake, but pretend to be Quakefags to gain imaginary legitimacy points because they're under the impression anyone gives a shit. This is a somewhat recent trend. Really awkward and cringy.

>>377450052
>he thinks the standard quake team fortress railgun is the same as the MegaTF railgun

what do you think MegaTF is, a server name or something? It's basically a gigantic expansion pack that adds a ton of shit to every class. Engineers can even build C&C Red Alert tesla coils.

>>377450045
You mean shit talk and "destroy" other people to feed their ego. I'm having a hard time believing a bunch of /v/ kids are masters at psychology using their superpowers for the good of gaming skill everywhere.

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>Genre about measuring player skill on a level playing ground
>Introduce character stats
>Different abilities
>Include no server browser
>No console
>Limit options
>No rematch, have to wait minutes between matches
>Fuck up the netcode
>Limit character speed on per-character basis
>Grant bonus damage when zooming

Wow, so this is the power of modern video games.

Haha, next game.

>>377450154
customTF is not megaTF

>>377438498
>lower sens

Most pros actually play around 20-30 cm/360.

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>>377446713
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx6h70gDL3g

>>377450517

Most pros actually play with accel so you can't really speak in cms per 360 terms.

This game feels smooth like a penis

How many 1on1 games do you have under your belt?

I broke my first 100 last week and am now approaching 150.

>>377451257
>1 on 1
Do you mean duels?

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>>377450549
>part 2 is muted

>>377451439
He can't possibly mean that, if he meant that, he'd say duels, right?

Why is he speaking in obscure riddles?

for some reason whenever someone lags my FPS drop into what looks like the 30s.

>>377450630
Not anymore.

Does anyone else feel like MMR based matchmaking hasn't been implemented yet? I was pretty mediocre in QL Duel but on here my record so far has been 25-2, most against people who clearly haven't played duel before.

>>377452098

Does the QL mouse driver not work with Champions?

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>>377450134
This

>>377440749
QTF was what sealed the deal for me and turned me into a complete dork.
That game was so fucking amazing, bums me out i'll never have such a great experience again with games, oh to be a young noob on 56k.

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It has potential but it feels like they won't really listen and the general "theme" of the game is putting me off. I don't mind the MOBA aspect of the game, but all they done is make about three maps so far from already existing ones, and fuck up really essential things, like the net code, optimization, and there's little to no customization apart from your gay skins.

1 year from now and we can talk. For now it's just an another cash grab.

And I feel it won't be any better than this, this is Bethesda after all, don't forget what they did with QL.

Or Doom for that matter.

So far it's not for me but millennials with love it.

>>377454014
>So far it's not for me but millennials with love it.
Don't try to pull this. Unless you're literally 40 years old, you're a millennial too.

>>377455771
You're right I am sorry, I meant to refer to Generations Z I think? Every site tells it differently but what I meant is everyone born after 2000s.

>>377438498
17cm/360 master race.

i average 75% with the railgun.

>>377438120
tell us more specifically about what problem you are having, and maybe we can give some useful advice. Really it comes down to using reasonable equipment and practicing.