>tfw you're g400s finally bites the dust, and it's

I've heard that the g403 is a good replacement. I don't use one personally though because I'm on year 7 of my mx518.

>>377432754
It almost looks decent, but that scroll wheel gave me cancer. I need my scroll wheels to click.

>>377431613

Is there a mouse that is g400 or very close but with about 6 more buttons?

the g502 looks over the top but it's pretty good

Mx Master is really good

>>377433347
>using a wireless mouse

Are you retarded?

The g403 is pretty much just as good. For cheaper I've heard the g203 is actually pretty phenomenal.

>>377431613
g502

aw craps i have the same mouse? They discontinued it? I should have bought five.

>retards playing a wired mouse

enjoy your inaccuracies whenever you push the mouse forward.

also enjoy living on borrowed time, hope that little cord doesnt disconnect slightly and completely bricking your mouse at the slightest pressure

>>377432754
I got a g403 to replace my g400s and I really just wish I still had my g400s.
The cord is nice in terms of durability but it's heavy and has a lot of friction with most surfaces. The shape of it isn't quite as nice. It doesn't have that nice coating like the g400s did. It has a removable weight so you can have it heavier or lighter but you can feel the weight rattling around inside when it's in.

>>377433681
502 is a straight upgrade, that's why

>>377433705
>enjoy your inaccuracies whenever you push the mouse forward.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Cords weigh nothing.

>also enjoy living on borrowed time, hope that little cord doesnt disconnect slightly and completely bricking your mouse at the slightest pressure

I've only had that happen once in my life, and you can just open it up and fix it. You enjoy your massive amount of lag that's impossible to compensate for though.

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>>377431613
noooooooooooooooooooo

What's the problem with it? The G400 series is infamous for having shitty USB cords, if that's giving you issues then it's a quick and easy replacement.

Zowie >>>>>>>

Or be a fag like me and get a steelseries
g400s had wiring issues up the ass nerd.

>>377434013
It has way to many buttons, and a shitty scroll wheel. You're on crack.

>>377431613
>Bites the dust
Was that a JoJo reference?

>>377434181
>too many buttons
>a bad thing
>shitty scroll wheel

Thanks for confirming you never used it.

>g400 for $40 in
>outlasted every other mouse above its price range
>discontinued for gaymen esports mice

what the fuck happened to Logitech

Just get a G502 anon. It looks like shit but my G500 shat the bed and I needed a replacement so went with the 502. It's just as bueno, except looks edgy.

>>377434174
It keeps skipping out every 3-10 seconds. It won't register clicks or movement when it skips out. I guess it could be the cord though. I'll try replacing it.

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Not OP, but has anyone tried this?
Top G models looks way too hideous for me.

>>377431613
>400 dpi
What the fuck? Must take an eternity to move your mouse pointer anywhere.

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what about this one, OP?

>>377434239
>too many buttons
>a bad thing

Yeah, there's a point where a billion unnecessary buttons get in the way.

>shitty scroll wheel

If you can flick it and it keeps going, then it's shit. Also, if it bumps, instead of clicks.

>>377434468
This, my default dpi is 3800, I don't change it for anything.

>>377434626
>Yeah, there's a point where a billion unnecessary buttons get in the way.
They don't though

>If you can flick it and it keeps going, then it's shit. Also, if it bumps, instead of clicks.
Only if you unlock it, which no one would ever do.

>>377434468
No, you just have to move your hand more. It's only like 8 inches of movement to cross the screen from corner to corner.

>>377434573
That one actually looks alright. I'm gonna have to check the scroll wheel though.

>>377434670
What the hell? that's crazy high. Can't even move the mouse in pixel increments like that, jumps like 10 pixels at a time.

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>>377435038
I can move it slowly just fine with a high DPI, you need to gitgud

my video game profile is just different binds for my mouse buttons, my DPI remains the same

>>377434410
I had two of the previous models, and both of them got button problems. After about 8 months of use, the right click became unresponsive. Returned it twice and on the second time it was discontinued and I got a G302. It's been fine so far, though I think the buttons are a bit too sensitive for my boney yet inexplicably heavy fingers.

>>377431613
Logitech mice suck, they're always devolve to double clicking issues

>>377435175
>guy that uses a gimmicky mouse with a bunch of useless buttons also plays with 3800 dpi and is generally cancer

What a surprise.

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Rival 300 is the only true answer.

>>377431613
>g9 still going
>still no g9 successor

>l u c k y

>>377434408
Does it make the device connect/disconnect sound when it conks out?

>>377435698
Nice baseless accusations just because you don't like the mouse. 3800 DPI is just fine, in fact I don't know how people use anything lower, it takes forever to move the cursor around. I want as little movement as possible.

>>377435790
Looks decent. Does the scroll wheel click, can you change the dpi, and how heavy/light is it?

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>>377431613
> tfw still works
> tfw its still costs bananas prices because its not considered a fucking antique

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>have g400
>still works perfectly
how the fuck do you guys manage to break it?

>>377435873
I don't think so. It just becomes completely unresponsive for 1-3 seconds.

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>>377431613
Literally had the same problem with my favorite A4tech mouse. Ended up getting wooden one

the fuck kind of DPI do you faggots use if you consider 3800 high?
>console players
>not even once

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itt: retards
DPI hardly matters when you're using your arm to move your mouse, and not your wrist, like a carpal tunnel syndrome'd retard
400 is absolutely ez pz to deal with if you have this kind of setup, you need a big mousepad to truly juice out the best out of your mouse
400-800 is where most people play at for fps games, other games usually sit at 1000-1600
anything above is retardation, because the pixelskipping becomes unbearable and you're not even using your arm anymore, just your wrist joints that will be completely fucked after a while

>>377436095
>>377436126
I broke both of these. When my laptop mice would fuck up, I'd start unplugging my desktop mouse and using it on the laptop for when I went to bed. The wear and tear of constantly doing that and also bumping the connector into shit destroyed both these mice. I probably could have fixed them, but now I got a G400s and I banned myself from ever using it on a laptop, I'll just use the fucking touch pad and order a new cheap mouse for the laptop right away. Anyway, I've now had the G400s for years and there's no reason for it to break, but I am worried for when it does, like OP does.

>>377436223
i use 450, you'd know it that such a low dpi isn't actually a big deal given the big mousemat\space shit you should have, but you're a wrist-aim faggot and you can't even turn 180° without raising your mouse 6-7 times with such DPI
kill yourself, faggot

>>377436359
No, I use my arm to move the mouse, 450DPI is still too low

>>377436126
On mine the fucking right mouse button switch got fucked, when I held the button it would switch between button down and up, I did the "fix" with putting some tape on it, that helped for a while then it started going wonky again.
Funny enough, while my first Razer diamondback had a broken cable after a year or so, the Razer Pro click I got later (which is the same mouse), still works perfectly, despite rolling up the cable for use with my laptop very often, just the white plastic is going ugly yellow. Got a G602 now, no problems with it being wireless.

>>377436246
The main point of using 800 dpi is because if you go up to 1600 dpi, there are some games where even sensitivity set to 1 is too high. And you're right, too many retards play at super high sensitivity and they usually suck. My aim got better right away as soon as I dropped my sensitivity to 1/3 of what it was before. Precise aim with wrist, turn character around with arm.

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>>377435990
It's an absolute beast, perfect tracking, optic godlike sensor, best DPI settings (50-6500), six buttons, dpi switch with two settings, two lateral buttons and fancy sidegrips that work very well with palm and fingertip grips.
I got this literally three days ago and it's absolute perfection.
All of that for just 50 dollars.
There are definitely better mice around, but this is probably one of the best out there in terms of what you get for the price.

just get a zowie or something

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>>377436246
You're a fucking retard.
i bet you play csgo and think you know shit about aiming.

>High DPI pixel skipping
Give me a break, scrub.

>>377436246
>thinking anything above 1600 is retarded

t. never got used to 3800 DPI

Everything else feels so fucking slow and painful to use

>>377431613
i felt the same way about the mx518. Get a ZOWIE EC1-A

>>377436246
>>377436801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jss9Zo37MCQ

Video related.

>>377436608
>Precise aim with wrist, turn character around with arm.
This is the standard with many competitive players.
In the end, on most games it depends if the sens calculations are done well and not just half assed, since at least in Overwatch 400 dpi and 7.5 sens is the same as 800 dpi and 3.5 sens, so whatever kind of settings you use it's just your personal choice for your desktop experience.

The fucking scroll wheels always fucking die on my mice, I have no idea why, on my roccat savu it just fucking broke, the plastic shit that was supposed to turn it, it literally broke in half, like a straight fucking cut through

>>377436126
i had mine for like 8 years, it never broke but i bought a new motherboard and none of the USB slots allowed for USB1 or 2, so i had to buy a new mouse

>>377431613
check rocket jumping guys youtube channel, he plays quake and reviews mice

>People still fall for the 400 dpi meme

>>377436945
Stop abusing you're animals anon

>>377436801
>>377436832
how does it feel to skip 50 pixels with each turn, you complete utter faggots?

>>377437031
Except you don't? I know it's hard to understand some people are more capable than you, but I have ZERO issues moving my mouse cursor slowly when I need to, using my ARM not my WRIST because I know you're going to try and bring that up

dont all the g500+ series mice have built in mouse accel you cant turn off?

800 dpi is most comfy for me

>>377433284
This, I can't think of a mouse to recommend over it, it looks a bit "gamer-y" but what comes out now that doesn't have retarded LEDs and shit strapped to it

>>377431613
Get a finalmouse.

Or at least look up mice with flawless sensors for fucks sake.

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>>377434410

I'm currently using the G203 which is the new version. Super simple / straight-forward mouse but it has all the precision and quality of a $100 gaming mouse. My ONLY complaint is that it's pretty light and there's no way to make it heavier. But it's top notch regardless. G203. Check it out.

>>377436908
Yeah, I never go by DPI or sensitivity. I always keep DPI at 800 and do a quick measurement for how far I need to go to do a 360. Probably autistic, but it's worth it. Aiming down sights is different for each game, though. I just let the games do whatever they want there. It's usually better anyway, it's only giving you more accuracy at range by lowering the sensitivity in ADS, but sometimes I find myself fucking up if I'm ADS and trying to track a closer enemy. It's much faster in BF1 while it's slower in Rainbow Six. Both let you adjust ADS sensitivity, but fuck it. Good enough.

>>377437131
you blithering retard, you're still skipping pixels, no matter if you're not seeing it

>>377436902

You're supposed to use low dpi and low sense you nigger

>>377437031
Already posted a video, idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jss9Zo37MCQ

Go watch it, lower DPI is the one that pixelskips with the newer sensors.

But the little bitch will suck up anything "CSGO PROS" spit.

>>377437318
Talk to my k/d faggot, I top the scoreboard in CSGO and RO2 every time, gitgud you flaming faggot

>>377433031

So the G403 has a smooth mousewheel? I hate that too. It's a shame because looking it up, I think I'd like it otherwise. I've kind of wanted bigger side buttons than the G400s has anyway.

>>377437240

ALSO: You can probably find it for < $40 so you can abuse the shit out of this mouse and not feel bad if / when it takes a shit on you.

>not just using a deathadder
What a bunch of autists

>>377433284

>>377437392
>muh kdr
yet you still pixelskip :^)

>>377437318
no shit, "skipping" pixels is how your mouse cursor moves you retard

>Tfw left mouse button sometimes double clicks on your g400

:(

had a good run

>>377437161
I would like to play with 400 but since I also play games other than fps I have to settle with 800 too.

>>377437426
The 403 wheel doesn't glide forever. It bumps into place. The wheel rattles around when you move the mouse, though.

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>>377437513
>anything razer
>2017

>>377437370
>go watch my video man, see i'm right!11
You're a complete fucking retard and have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Go shill your youtube shittery somewhere else, faggot.

>>377437658
Razer is shit, ok, but the Deathadder is GOAT, anon

>>377437585
get an AHK script running that ignores double clicks faster than you can actually do them.
it's how i'm making this POS deathadder stay useful

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>>377437547
>getting this mad that someone has more dexterity than you
LMAO

>>377437653
I don't understand it. Is there a video that explains it better or something? I only know the shitty smooth ones like a Microsoft one I used to have and the usually one that clicks every time it registers like the G400s

>>377437847
>pixelskipping
>dexterity
how much in denial can you possibly be

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Unironically my favorite mouse design. Sleek in all the right places. Any mice out there similar to this? Nothing gay looking or too bulky

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>>377437928
>using pixel skipping as an excuse for your shitty aim
LMAO

>>377437658
I haven't used one, but it seems as thought the Deathadder is typically considered an honorary non-Razer product.

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>>377437829
>Deathadder is GOAT

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>>377437974
if you had lower dpi your aim could be better, like mine :^)
unfortunately you're a shitter that plays shit games, so i'm so sorry to hear that anon
no i'm not

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>looks like shit
Who fucking cares, do you ever look at your hand when you're using your mouse? The G700s is top comfy.

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>>377438189
>implying I didn't get better at aiming when I used a higher DPI because I was able to keep movement to a minimum instead of spamming my hand around the mouse pad the entire time
LMAOING AT YOU ANON

>>377431613
>getting sad about an optical sensor with smoothing

Luckily, Logitech have plenty of new mice with flawless sensors, if by chance you aren't feeling like a faggot.

>The mice they use LITERALLY have physical dents in them
holy shit

>>377438390
they're there to catch sweat to keep your hands hydrated

DPI does very little to change aim. I agree that high sensitivity is really gay, but I think this "pixel skipping" thing is made up. I use 800 DPI, but I'm pretty sure someone using 1600 DPI in their mouse settings and half my sensitivity in-game would get almost the same result. So like in Overwatch, my sensitivity would be 10 and theirs would be 5 or something and be almost the same.

>>377434573
I generally avoid buying logitech products on principle since most of them are shit and overpriced and almost all of their market share is undeserved + due to retards who don't know any better

That being said, the G-Pro is literally a perfect mouse, it will never be exceeded.

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>>377438310
>spamming my hand
>not using your arm to aim
heh you almost had me

>>377438461
pixel skipping isn't made up, but only lower quality sensors have the issue

any sensor that meets or exceeds the 3310 works fine on any cpi step

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>>377438474
>your mouse doesn't require your hand to use
>implying you don't move it around with the grip of your hand
ROFLMAO

>>377438535
Maybe you're right. Not able to test it because supposedly my G400s "has the best sensor ever made" or something.

>>377438625
400s has smoothing, far from flawless

>>377431613
I bought a G900 wireless/wired a couple of months ago.

I can't tell the difference between it and wired mice, whatever they've done with it is magic.

It's also incredibly light and I enjoy not having the wire.

Only downside is it's expensive. But you shouldn't rule out wireless mice now, the latency is so low that the sensor feels exactly the same as a Zowie FK1 wired mouse to me.

You guys are turbo-autists. Your DPI, Windows sensitivity, and in-game sensitivity contribute to the final sensitivity. Arguing about DPI is fucking stupid, argue about centimeters/inches per 360.
But yeah, if you're turning around with your wrist, you suck shit at FPS games and are constantly missing more than you should be when things get hectic.

G203/G102/GPro whatever you want to call it. This is a good mouse. Pretty cheap for its quality too. I got mine for 30 bucks and yet it performs as well as >$80 ones.

>>377438790
Supposedly the first version of the G400s has the best sensor ever and the second version has that shit one you described. I believe I have the first version. Specifically talking about two G400s versions, I'm not confusing it with G400.

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where my /roccat/ brothas at?

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>>377438913
oops forgot image

>tfw you have a piece of glass stuck inside the palm of your right hand so had to relearn how to do everything with your left hand

I have a G602, but I don't recommend it.
Frequently spams its own side buttons, and google tells me people often have double clicking and scroll wheel problems.
Damn it all.

>>377438868
You're right but

>you suck shit at FPS games and are constantly missing more than you should be when things get hectic.

I average 35-40% LG accuracy

fite me

>>377439030
Sounds like a pain in the glass

>>377438964
>>377438790
I remember when the g400 was 35 bucks on amazon.

Snatched mine up then.

Using it ever since. Great mouse.

>>377439072
the worst part is it's underneath the skin and has been there for years. too poor to get it taken out

>>377438974
Had one of those for like a week, it was good, but just too small for my hand. Returned it and got a G400s instead, which I still use.

>>377437513
>not just using just about any mouse ever
autist

>>377439118
I have a suggestion.
Do you have a thick leather belt of some kind, some rubbing alcohol, and some cloves?

>>377439071
I don't want to fight you or tell you to kill yourself, I want you to consider lowering your sensitivity and see that you might even be better than you think. I've been PC gayman for 20 years and only just last year did I finally lower my sensitivity and realize how much better I got. It was awkward at first, I would try to still use my wrist and it would end up at a weird angle and shit. But within a week or less of that shit, my aim improved and I became a better player. Just consider it, it's not that hard to get used to and you'll start to realize you can move your arm almost as fast as you could move your wrist. Maybe a little slower, but the added accuracy makes it worth it.

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>>377439321
I do

>>377439394
Clean the area with rubbing alcohol. If you crush up some cloves in some water, the liquid makes a mild topical anesthetic in my experience - it works for mild tooth and oral pain, but, I'm not positive if it'll work for this application, so the belt is crucial. You bite down on the belt, and, if luck is on your side, you won't bite and swallow your tongue.

Make sure you clean the area with rubbing alcohol. Because an infection would hurt severely.

Then I would recommend cutting it out with something really sharp. Make sure you disinfect that knife or razor blade extremely well.

When was your last tetanus shot?

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>Need external software to remap side buttons
>Turning off LED gives 3x increase in battery life
Could have been better.
Its fine

>>377437513
ill get it when my sensei dies

>>377439903
>wireless

>>377431613
G600S

Has all those "MMO" buttons on the side but its godlike.

>>377439791
It was a long ass time ago. I'm going to go and get some liquor before I do this, I'm dreading this.

>>377431613
I got a g602 after going through a bunch of other mice. Despite being wireless one of the best mice I had in years, had absolutely zero wireless detection issues.

>>377440940
You're still getting input lag with anything wireless.

>>377440627
Find me a hardware survey that showcases milliseconds of input lag.
It wouldn't surprise me if the USB2 hardware bus is a bigger chokepoint at 125hz.

>>377433284
The shape took me some getting used to but it's seriously a good mouse.

I've been using a Razor Deathadder, is there any reason to get any other mouse?

>>377440778
How close to the skin is it?

>My MX518's scroll wheel died on me a few weeks ago
This mouse has lasted me a few years so I don't really mind, but I'm still looking for a new one. Not sure what to get yet though.

>>377431613
I have a monoprice gaming mouse

>>377441132
not even going to bother but even assuming you're right you're still paying a premium to not have a wire

>get a G402
>it's sometimes all jittery and shit
I don't get it. My G400 was literally perfect. But this fucker will randomly start spazzing the fuck out until I correct it and I can't even really put my finger on it.

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>>377441484
mx518 lmfao

>>377441607
>you're still paying a premium
??????????
?????????????
??????????

>>377441173
I'ts amazing, but razer shit stops working in no time. I had a deathadder and mamba, both choked after a year or two. Meanwhile my 2 logitech mice worked for about 8-10 years.

>>377441734
nice post I read it

Is there any "gaming" mouse without fucking softtouch?

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>>377441681

>>377441834
there's no excuse

>>377436641
so does the scroll wheel click or not?

>>377431613

i got a g700. it has 4 side buttons, and its weird that that isnt the standard. its also hard to find one with 4 side buttons in a comfortable spot (subject to your personal preference).

>>377436187
oh shit, another a4tech bro, what model were you using?

>>377433705
Enjoy your inherent latency

>>377441681
It's disgusting people still post about the Mx518 and G400 as though they were good mice.

The only reason the Mx518 is popular is because most people upgraded to it from a trackball, and the only reason the G400 is popular is because people mindlessly looked for a "replacement" for their shitty Mx518

>>377442120
the g400 is fine though as long as you don't have a first gen one

>>377436246
well your mousepad is facing the wrong way so fuck your opinion

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>>377442120
>The only reason the Mx518 is popular is because most people upgraded to it from a trackball
>mfw that's totally accurate
Ater 14 years, my mx518 still stands strong thou.

>>377442120
the mx518 is over a dozen years old. Of fucking course it doesn't hold up to todays technology.

It's still a solid $40 mouse that has been working for most people for close to a decade if not more.

>>377441804

I bought mine used a year ago, it's never stopped working except for one of the buttons on the side was stuck since I got it

>>377442882
It doesn't hold up to what technology? Because you know, mine still works, just like >>377442669 said. And i'm sure it'll work for another 14 years just fine. It's precise enough to play anything, i only replaced it because i wanted something new after 10 years or so.

>>377442095
I use a G602, I've never noticed any latency with it. Wireless mice are pretty good these days.

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>>377431613
>mx510 to mx518 to g400s to pic related
Logitech really fucked up their gaming division. They had one job, affordable high quality mice, is that too much to ask? Fuckers discontinued every single product line I enjoyed from them what ever guess you don't want my money