So let me see if I get this right: The Patriots were made after

>>377415258
>the negro
you mean, 'Nigint'

>>377415258
Cont.
Led by Skull Face, they tortured Paz to get Zero's location. After they got his location the fitted Paz with two bombs and left her there to get rescued by Boss. Boss did indeed rescued her, and Chico, but while he was on that mission an "inspection" was going on at Mother Base to see if they really where a nuclear power. This was a ruse set up by both Skull Face and Huey, Huey which wanted to get safe passage out of MSF. When Boss is en route to MB Chico calls out to Boss and warns him about a bomb inside of Paz, they get one out. After Boss arrives at MB and rescues Kaz and some soldiers, Paz gets up and warned them that they were played like a fiddle. Throwing herself out of the chopper so that the other bomb wouldn't kill them, but not in time to get the chopper out of the blast radio, this sends Boss into a coma, Kaz loses an arm and a leg, Chico dies, and Ahab, the medic who removed one of Paz bombs, into a 9 year come.

>>377415258
Cont.
During the time Boss was in a come, Zero saves his life by moving him around until he gets to Cyprus, it is during this that Skull Face goes renegade and poisons Zero, claiming Zero understood The Boss wrong and that his plans were a delusion. After that, Zero gets in contact with Ocelot, asking for his help, he wanted him to take care of Big Boss. Ocelot agrees and is informed of the plan to make Ahab, MSF best soldier after Boss, into Big Boss with plastic surgery, to throw off anyone after Boss. Zero then gets in contact with Kaz and asks him to help Boss when he wakes up, to which Kaz agrees. Boss wakes up before Ahab and is informed of the plan. After Ahab wakes up the world is after his head and Big Boss helps him escape. Immediately after the face surgery the hospital is under attack, it is here when Quiet is burned alive and as a result, forced to get the Parasites treatment and getting the English vocal cords strain. During the escape they crash and Ahab is knocked unconscious, it is here when Ocelot arrives and helps the real Big Boss escapes, then he goes to help Ahab.

>>377415258
Cont.
After they escape, they rescue Miller, build Mother Base again, but not MSF, this time it was Diamond Dogs, partly having the same goals but having a LUST FOR REVENGE. Soon afterwards they meet Quiet, and the vocal cords parasite, which were a product from an abandoned Cipher project, when they turned their attention to genes, this is where FOXDIE came from and the idea of Nanomachines came from the parasites. During these events they get Huey back, who murdered the mother of his child, Strangelove, who worked on what would become the Patriots AI. It is also during these events they meet Eli, the "inferior" clone of Big Boss, which then goes to control a young Psycho Mantis and steal Sahelantropus, the 2nd Metal Gear after ZEKE, which is now forever lying on the ocean floor of the Caribbean along with the 1st and true Mother Base. Ahab responds by tracking him down and destroying Sahelantropus.

>>377415258
Last cont.
A little before Eli (Liquid Snake) steals Sahelantropus, Ahab would go on to kill Skull Face. But while all of this was going on, Big Boss was working to see his vision of The Boss will, a reality, which was Outer Heaven, a nation by soldiers and for soldiers, which will sell themselves to the higher bidder, creating wars and ending them. While he was working on this he went back to FOXHOUND, a unit created to deal with Gene's renegade FOX. It is during this time that Boss achieves his dream, and to make his nation above both superpowers Outer Heaven kidnaps Dr. Pettrovich, to build Outer Heaven a Metal Gear, when the USA finds out that the Metal Gear is being build they send FOXHOUND, led by Big Boss, to deal with it, as Big Boss is in Outer Heaven it is Ahab who gives the original order to start Operation Intrude N313, FOXHOUND sends Gray Fox but they loss contact with him, then they send Snake, the "superior" clone of Boss, who was trained by Kaz, after he found out about Ahab, and how Boss "betrayed" him, as he had the same view as Cipher and not Big Boss's. After a series of events Snake finds Fox, "rescues" him, destroys Metal Gear and finds out that Big Boss was behind the Outer Heaven uprising, after Snake "kills" Big Boss, Boss is sent into a coma and rescued by the Patriots, this Boss would not wake until the events of Guns of the Patriots, in 2014. 4 years later during the Zanzibar Land disturbance it would seem that Big Boss was alive and well, but this was actually not the real Big Boss but Ahab, it is during these events that Gray Fox would also face Snake in battle and "die" to him, coming back 6 years later during the Shadow Moses incident after being turned into a Cyborg by Para-Medic which he killed, it it during this that the negro also died. Snake faced "Big Boss" "again" resulting in Ahab dying.

Did I get it right? Will the thread die because it isn't shitposting?
>>377415349
I actually forgot his name while typing that.

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Wow, nice summary O.P.

TL;DR answer: The organization formed by Zero and Big Boss was Cipher, not the Patriots. The Patriots was created later by the A.I. system created by Sigint.

>>377419902
Thanks (?), I'm mostly trying to see If I got right which of the Big Boss's was on Outer Heaven.

that's all mostly right, the only things are

1. Portable Ops is debatably canon as no other games reference its existence, so all the gene stuff may not have happened

2. Ahab Boss was the one in Metal Gear 1, not Metal Gear 2. The Big Boss that survived and showed up at the end of MGS4, the real one, was the one from Metal Gear 2. Ahab Boss got blowed up. We know this because of the final scene of MGSV, where he gets the operation information for MG1.

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why are we here? just to keep winning!?

Holy shit Kojima is a genius

>>377420082
So yeah, kind of a prototype Patriots, it is revealed in Phantom Pain that Strangelove had a hand in creating the A.I.
>>377420180
>1. Portable Ops is debatably canon as no other games reference its existence, so all the gene stuff may not have happened
Yeah, you're right, I'm just assuming it did happened because it would make a lot more sense for Big Boss to have the troops he did at the beginning of Peace Walker.
>The Big Boss that survived and showed up at the end of MGS4, the real one, was the one from Metal Gear 2
But isn't the one in MG2 a so call "cyborg"? If it is then it would make sense that it would be Ahab because of his arm.

>>377415873
I think Kaz lost his leg and arm fighting against the skull 9 years later.

>>377420603
Oh, you're right, he did mentioned they left him for dead, and they do use machetes. It also wouldn't make sense for him to be worrying about Boss when he was blown to bits.

>>377420082
No, Cipher was just a code name. The Patriots was the name of the organisation made by Boss and Zero post MGS3.

>>377420747
Also, isn't Big Boss the one that dies in Zanzibar Land? I thought Ahab died fighting against Solid Snake on Operation Intrude N313

>>377421207
So claimed another anon, alas I'm not saying any of this objectively since I AM a little confused, but it is starting to make sense what both of you said.

>>377415258
>The Patriots were made after or during the event of Peace Walker/Phantom Pain with the money of the Legacy they got during Operation Snake Eater, the original members where, Zero, the negro, Para-Medic, Big Boss, EVA and Ocelot. Boss left when Zero wanted to clone him and so did Ocelot.
Kind of right.
The Patriots were formed after MGS3. Ignore Portable Ops, as we will never know if it is canon or not. Following a near death mission, Zero worried he would lose Big Boss, and thus had him cloned. This pissed off Boss and he left, found Kaz, and formed MSF. With funds raised and the stuff Galvez gave them they were able to build up MSF and Mother Base. "Cipher" was just a code name used by opperatives of The Patriots. Think of it as an early La Li Lu Le Lo.
During the evens of PW, The Patriots recovered the AI systems Huey had created, and would later reprogram the AI so they would act as The Patriots when the founding members could no longer do so.

>>377421396
Don't worry it's pretty fucking confusing

>>377419107
>4 years later during the Zanzibar Land
MG and 2 is non-canon senpai.

Venom Snake was the one in MG1, Big Boss was the one in MG2.
Ignore everything about those games other than that, as Kojima shit all over everything with retcons and nothing makes sense if you think about it too much.

Is this another thread of Caramel falseflaging?
Christ /v/, you've fallen so low.

>>377421634
>Ignore Portable Ops
I really like some of the designs
>reprogram the AI
Wasn't this Strangelove?
>>377421827
My favorite meme considering MGS1 makes references to MG2.
>>377421831
I've heard about retcons in MGSV for quite a while know, aside from Ahab being the Boss in MG1 are there anymore?
>>377422016
>Caramel falseflaging
?

>>377420843
In TPP they clearly treat "The Patriots" as a different thing from Cipher.

>>377422085
>muh favorite meme
they tell you to push the controller against your arm... breaking the fourth wall
it's not canon

>>377422587
You're actually pretty good, first it was the shitposting on the "MGS2 is king thread" and now this.

>>377422716
Sorry anon, you're confusing me with someone else who also played the games...

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Stop pretending to understand MGS plot.
Even Kojima has no idea what the fuck he wrote over the years.

>>377423067
Thanks for your input.

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>>377422085

>>377423636
No idea what you're on about, I've been out of MGS threads for at least 2 years.

>>377423636
this guy calls any one that disagrees with him caramel, caramel is some autist pushing some theories about kojimas ruise cruise still going, and this guy hates him for some reasion

>>377424293
woops wrong quote >>377423720

>>377424293
shut the fuck up caramel

>>377424293
shut the fuck up caramel

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>>377422016
There is not carmel falseflaging. The ruise cruise is on tho.

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>>377424504
You forgot your trip caramel.

>>377424367
>>377424405
>>377424601
Stop following me arround IM NOT CARMEL faggot.

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>>377424681
If you're not Caramel why do you care? Fuck off.

>>377424681
Caramel you can't hide even without your trip
We've studied you, know your mannerisms and can pick you out of an anonymous crowd using all the entropy we've collected on you.

shut the fuck up caramel

>>377424783
because you keep quoting me and im not fucking carmel. so you fuck off

>>377424868
Manerisms? you fucks are hilarious, can you atleast explian to me why you all keep bulling that poor autist?

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>>377425158
SHUT THE FUCK UP CARAMEL

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>>377425158
Whatever you say Caramel

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>>377425250
IM NOT CARMEL YOU FUCK

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>>377425430
This is now a caramel thread
post your rare caramels

>>377420180
>Portable Ops is debatably canon
Miller refers to ops in peace walker, and i think its referenced in phantom pain

>>377425950
Why are you trying so hard? Kek

Come on dude stop shitposting MGS threads the boogima... i mean carme is not here it is safe

might as well just shit on the wall and call it a game

>>377426005
If i remember correctly kojima said that only the shit confirmed in the main games is cannon, so some shit of portable ops is in there but some othere shit isnt

Is this an MGSV thread? Can I talk about TPP here?

>>377426506
This is a carmel hate thread

>>377426796
I just want to talk about FOBs n shit.

>>377426506
You have to build a nuke to post here

>>377426185
Its canon until new game overwrites established canon. Didn't happen yet.

>>377426947
>You have to dismantle a nuke to post here

Srsly guys, konami retwited this

https://twitter.com/Reapers_Phantom/status/865262858208018432

we need to achive nuclear disarmament.

>>377427403
Why? Final cutscene from doing that is leaked already.

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>>377427430
That's a red herring. It will trigger the final mission where we revisit Camp Omega to find out what really happened after the helicopter crash.

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>>377427536

>>377427628
wew now you can stop quoting me instead of carmel faggot

Listen to the GZ tapes again.
You're missing something very important.

>>377427846
What? if you have any info share it, if not stop fucking shitposting

>>377427846
The white noise that is used with the one in TPP to create the MSX game? Aren't we still missing a piece of that?

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>>377427536
https://youtu.be/OpO2rk2PPE0?t=1h45m46s
The very exact moment IN GAME that destroy your shitty fanfiction theory.
There isn't any "post crash" ride, its showed BEFORE crashing, INSIDE the game, that very same scene.

It was an easy thing to prove, checkmate.
You CANNOT proof otherwise.
Can you please stop shitting up metal gear threads?

>>377427403
I just built a nuke, what the fuck do i do now?!

>>377415258
Correction, op, the 'overarching plotline' of the series disappeared up it's own ass after MGS3, and anything after this should be disregarded.

>>377428145
you are the only one shitting up in the mgs theads m8, get a life

>>377428168
You disarm it, faggot

>>377428145
That point of the video only proves my point further. That moment does occur exist in GZ or TPP aside from that flashback sequence because Venom Snake is remembering a brief fragment of the truth when he returned to Camp Omega.

His face has cuts from the Paz explosion, yet the helicopter is still functioning and it's DAWN (a few hours after GZ). That proves the helicopter never crashed.

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>>377428446
Shut the fuck up Caramel

>>377428168
Build another one

>>377428824
The collapsing tower also occurs before the soldier dies in Big Boss's arms, the flashback sequence isn't showing events in a chronological order.

Keep ignoring the cuts on Big Boss's face from the Paz explosion though. Literally no way around that one. :)

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>>377429276
>the flashback sequence isn't showing events in a chronological order.
But they are, and you cannot prove otherwise.
gg ez

>>377429345
>The collapsing tower also occurs before the soldier dies in Big Boss's arms,
I literally just did.

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>>377429408
>The collapsing tower also occurs before the soldier dies in Big Boss's arms

>Soldier dies at 1:46:03
>Tower collapses at 1:46:15
>???

Thanks for proving me right, gg ez

>>377419107
They were all good friends.

>>377429702
Okay, I made a mistake there but Big Boss did not investigate Camp Omega after MSF was destroyed.

>>377429702
>1:46:16
Big Boss face full of blood and cuts

>1:46:38
Paz explosion, clean Big Boss face

I dont know man, caramel has a point there

>>377415258
>Boss left when Zero wanted to clone him and so did Ocelot

Ocelot never left the Patriots; he worked to overthrow them from the inside.

How he was able to kill Nigint without blowing his cover, I don't know. I guess Anderson forgot to program the AIs to keep him safe, like Strangelove did for Hal.

>>377430398
>How he was able to kill Nigint without blowing his cover, I don't know. I guess Anderson forgot to program the AIs to keep him safe, like Strangelove did for Hal.
Ocelot made it look like an "accident".

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>>377430165
Just for you
>>377430391
The point is, Kojimbo used trailer footage (bloody snake face) in the flashback, you can clearly see and differentiate CGI vs In-Game cutscene, he fucked up BUT he put them in the order the wanted them to be showed.
Nothing to discuss here, not-caramel poster.

So is it happening or not?

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>>377430695
>The point is, Kojimbo used trailer footage (bloody snake face) in the flashback, you can clearly see and differentiate CGI vs In-Game cutscene, he fucked up BUT he put them in the order the wanted them to be showed.
You aren't addressing the cuts on Big Boss's face from the Paz explosion.

>>377430773
Yes.
Death Stranding is Silent Hills.
TPP has one more ending where we revisit Camp Omega.
The real MGS5 is yet to be released.

>>377430773
Well why the fuck would the official MGS twitter still give a shit about how many nukes are left in the game? They've been urging everyone to work on disarmament since release pretty much and they haven't stopped, there must be something to it.

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>>377430837
>You aren't addressing the cuts on Big Boss's face from the Paz explosion.
Snake isn't show after paz exploded, as per flashback proved, that blood is just from a stilized trailer that that made into the flashback, but in the right order, in case you didn't noticed.
gg

>>377430773
I think there'll be a chapter 3 after disarmament, but none of this Death Stranding is MGS5/Silent Hills bullshit.

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>>377431078
The moment everyone (ha) dissarm their nukes there is a splashscreen that shows "Chapter 3: Peace" on screen followed by the following epilogue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iDYQe8nZSI
And that's it.

>>377431065
It's not just blood, there's cuts in his face and it's DAWN, several hours after GZ.

>but in the right order, in case you didn't noticed.
The flashback sequence also thinks MSF was destroyed before Big Boss rescued Chico.

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>>377431304
Learn to storytelling:
1st event - "Remember mother base demise in order"
2nd event - "Remember ground zeroes shit"
It doesn't disprove the original order of the first event described.
gg

>>377431653
Except for the fact Big Boss has cuts on his face, so it couldn't of taken place during MSF's destruction/

>>377431224
You don't know that. Everyone already knows that's what we think would happen but can we really be sure after all this time they're still trying to get people to disarm just for that? You'd have thought they'd just give up after people datamined the game but they're still giving regular updates on nuke numbers.

It would just seem a bit pointless to me if they thought we really knew what would happen after disarmament.

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>>377431778
>Except for the fact Big Boss has cuts on his face
There ins't a model in-game with this, it was just a stilyzed cutscene, as you're read before and you cannot prove otherwise, sorry anon, you have the autismos.

>>377431971
>There ins't a model in-game with this,
Because it's included with the Camp Omega ending, only further proving I'm right.

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reminder: GZ was originally going to be the epilogue to PW and not the prologue to V

>>377432017
>Because it's included with the Camp Omega ending
Do you have proof?

>>377432293
That would have been a terrible epilogue and not fit at all with PW

>>377432339
Big Boss has cuts on his face from the Paz explosion. The GzHelicopterCrash variable that triggers the ending.

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>>377432545
You're really dense, that's just a stilyzed trailer show as a flashback, you cannot prove there is a inside model with those "cuts"
And you can't prove that such variable exist.
You don't even know how programming work.

>>377432717
>you cannot prove there is a inside model with those "cuts"
I've never said there was one because it's for the Camp Omega ending.

Source was posted for the code in a prior thread.

>>377427403
Isn't is supposed to be impossible to reach complete disarmament right now? It's been forever since I was online, but I've heard that some fuckers hacked their MBs so that anyone who tries invading them is immediately booted out of the game.

And if that turns out to be bullshit, then how the fuck have you assholes still not reached disarmament? There were barely any nukes left around, at least on the PC version, when I stopped playing. The community was near dead, how hard can it be to pick off the last few remaining nukes?

>>377432960
>I've never said there was one
You cannot prove it then, thought so
>Camp Omega ending.
Speculation only, fanfiction tier theory, gg, ez

>even THINKING about the storyline after mgsv
shiggy dig do wop

>>377430507
>Ocelot made it look like an "accident".
Yeah, torturing a man to death does indeed seem like an accident. Especially by a guy who's a master at torture with decades of experience.

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>>377432960
Imagine being let down by a video game so hard that you literally go insane

>>377433068
>Speculation only, fanfiction tier theory, gg, ez
Big Boss has cuts on his face from the Paz explosion, the helicopter is still airborne and it is dawn. This indicates the helicopter never crashed.

>>377432975
Nuclear disarmament is a rigged game. The blockades allow people to create more nukes before you can infiltrate again to take them. Not to mention even if every player decided to disarm their nukes, Kojima surely set up dummy accounts with a constantly fluctuating number of nukes. Recently they did say they'll be making it "fairer" for nuclear disarmament to be reached, so they'll probably be removing blockades and other shitty aspects soon.

So basically nuclear disarmament will be reached when Kojima decides it can be reached.

>>377433298
>This indicates
Speculation, aka, fanfiction tier theory, you don't have proof whatsoever, sad.
gg

>>377433365
There's no way for that shot to exist unless the helicopter never crashed. It's fact.

Hey guys I'm a huge faggot can you please rape my face?

btw secret Camp Omega at E3! Habbening! Please subscribe to my ch- my friends'channel.

https://www.youtube.com/user/pythonselkanHD

>>377433415
>It's fact.
Its just your OPINION.
You don't have PROOF to back this up, just speculation, aka, fanfiction tier theory.
gg

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>>377433415
Please never stop even after E3, you are the best entertainer on this board right now

>>377423636
>>377424601
>>377424783
>>377425304
>>377427628
>>377428145
>>377429345
>>377429702
>>377430695
>>377431065
>>377431653
>>377431971
>>377432717
Nice memes, faggot. Now back to r/4chan.

>>377433512
It is a fact that it is dawn during the shot. It is a fact Big Boss has cuts from the Paz explosion. It is a fact the helicopter is still functioning during that shot.

It is a fact it is night time during GZ. The game tells you the helicopter "crashed" yet we have a shot of Big Boss injured from the Paz explosion, in a still functioning helicopter, at dawn.

>>377433725
Totally not Caramel: The post

>>377433848
>Calling opinions facts
Good speculation, but in the end, is just fanfiction tier theory
gg

>>377433982
Everything in that post is a fact.

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The flaming whale from the hospital escape symbolizes the "Moby Dick" that we are chasing here. The explosion / heli crash is the "ground zero" that Kojima talked about way back when. It's a huge moment, and its very appropriate that we're arguing and obsessing over that moment the same way Venom/Medic does. (He even imagines Paz coming back to life to escape the truth.)

>>377434000
>Everything in that post is an opinion.
Fixed that for you, remember your pre-schooler lessons anon.

>>377434086
Great argument. So you deny it is dawn in that shot. You deny Big Boss has cuts from the Paz explosion in that shot. You deny the helicopter is functioning in that shot. You deny it is night time in GZ. You also deny the helicopter ever crashed. So what do you believe in?

>>377433982
Your mom is fanfiction theory

>>377434214
I believe in mental health. You, my friend, are in serious need of a doctor. Or a gun. Your choice.

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>>377434218
>>377434214
>>377434341

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>>377434214
>>377434218
>>377434341

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>>377434214
>So you deny it is dawn in that shot
Never said that, you cannot find a post who said such thing
>You deny Big Boss has cuts from the Paz explosion in that shot
It has cuts, cuts that you can prove to be from paz explosion, in fact, it has been proven to be before paz vagina exploded
>You deny the helicopter is functioning in that shot
Never said that, you cannot find a post who said such thing
>You deny it is night time in GZ
Never said that, you cannot find a post who said such thing
>You also deny the helicopter ever crashed.
Never said that, you cannot find a post who said such thing
Here, you should look over your kid's stuff to see if you have this thing, it will help you so much in your life anon.

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>>377434075
>a whale is actually what crashed the helicopter

>>377434341
>>377434218
>>377434214
So you have no argument. OK.
You'll eat your words when Kojima-san reveals Metal Gear Solid V: Death Stranding at E3 and Chapter 3: Camp Omega is released.

>>377434502
>in fact, it has been proven to be before paz vagina exploded
Wrong. Big Boss has no blood or injuries throughout the cutscene.

>>377434727
Did you missed the flashback posted a hundred of times?
You can watch it again you know, maybe if you see it a couple of times you will grasp it finally

>>377434861
Yes, it's all the more reason I'm right. That shot did not happen in GZ. So there's more to be released. It's Big Boss remembering a brief fragment of the truth (they returned to Camp Omega).

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>remembering all those dead fish floating by in the sorrow river

>>377434861
Fuck, maybe I'm wrong after all?

>>377434953
>That shot did not happen in GZ
I told you that, you didn't even realized it, you told me to watch a "extended gz playthrought" to see it and I proved you were wrong.
>That shot did not happen in GZ
Speculation
>they returned to Camp Omega
Speculation
I know you want to share your fanfictions with us anon, but please remember its just an opinion. See you at E3

>>377435141
>See you at E3
I don't have money for that

>>377435205
Fuck you, I laughted

>>377435141
>you told me to watch a "extended gz playthrought" to see it and I proved you were wrong.
That was to prove he did not have cuts or blood on his face in GZ.
>That shot did not happen in GZ
>Speculation
Then go back and watch that GZ Longplay to see.
>they returned to Camp Omega
>Speculation
The shot would not exist if they didn't.

>>377434953
For what it's worth, I also believe that we haven't seen the true events of GZ yet, and that we will get a definitive ending. I just don't think your other points are very convincing.

>>377435295
Its called "cut content" anon, trailers often show unfinished content and this time, the unfinished content (chapter 3) was cut directly to blu-ray because Kojimbo didn't had enough time.
Then he was fired, this isn't fanfiction like the one you're posting.

>>377435295
>that shot would not exist if they didn't
holy shit am I a fucking faggot?

>>377435441
>Its called "cut content" anon, trailers often show unfinished content and this time
This goes beyond cut content. He has cuts on his face from the Paz explosion and it'd dawn. The helicopter "crashes" because of the Paz explosion, so there should be no more content that exists beyond that point.

>>377435431
>helicopter "crashes"
>image shows it's impossible for the helicopter to have crashed
That's definitive evidence.

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>>377435019

>>377435868
*scream intensified*

>>377435676
>This goes beyond cut content. He has cuts on his face
top kek
troll exposed
now we wait until the "i was pretending to be retarded" post at e3 time.

>>377436016
Great argument.
>This goes beyond cut content. He has cuts on his face from the Paz explosion and it'd dawn. The helicopter "crashes" because of the Paz explosion, so there should be no more content that exists beyond that point.

>>377435676
>>helicopter "crashes"
>>image shows it's impossible for the helicopter to have crashed
>That's definitive evidence.
I'm saying that's the part I agree with. Just not the stuff about Death Stranding and Silent Hills, or a real MGS5.

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>>377436469
Silent Hills is called Silent Hills because there will be multiple otherworlds. There are five otherworlds. The six blocks around Norman's neck have equations on them related to black holes and interdimensional travel. The six blocks will allow him (the player) to travel between the five otherworlds and the real world.

There are two versions of the suicide playing on the radio. In the dominant version of the suicide Reedus hangs himself with a garden hose, representing the PT otherworld. The version of the suicide where he hangs himself with an umbilical cord is leaking from the Death Stranding otherworld. When Lisa kills you she snaps your neck, then you hear the sound of unzipping and tearing flesh. She removes Norman's clothes and tears something out of his stomach. When you awake you find a bloody bag containing an object that talks to you. She ripped a fetus out of Norman's stomach and put it into the bag, hence the C-section scar in the Death Stranding otherworld.

Kojima said he wanted to make Silent Hills an open world game and Death Stranding is said to be an open world game. Admittedly he also said Death Stranding will be an action game like Uncharted but he also denied any involvement with The Phantom Pain when that was being marketed as a HORROR game. He marketed The Phantom Pain as a horror game when it was an action adventure game, now he's calling Death Stranding an action adventure game when it's actually a horror game.

OP here, what the hell happened?

>>377436549
Hmm alright, I'm intrigued. Let's see what happens next month. (I'm going to E3)

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>>377436549
Jesus christ.
I can't even make fun of you anon, you need professional help.

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>>377436697
Caramel happened, thread went autismo, every mgs thread has been the same the past week.

>>377436549
seek help

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>>377436926
What if he's right though?
Something is actually happening.
Konami retwitting about nukes, Konami stating that J-san joined them (Joakim from that fake Moby Dick studio?), Kojima twitting for the first time about MGSV after being fired (a box of vinyl figurine of both MGSV and Dead Stranding), him working on a fucking Metal Gear movie.
Holy shit by now even retards should get that something is happening.

>>377438325
>him working on a fucking Metal Gear movie.
And director of said movie laughing when asked about Konami / Kojima split.

>>377436969
I thought thick-skulled Caramel autism was the worst thing that was going to be in these threads, but you sure proved me wrong.

>>377438325
>him working on a fucking Metal Gear movie.
>>377438458
>And director of said movie laughing when asked about Konami / Kojima split.

This is the first time I hear about Kojima making a Metal Gear movie, how is this supposed to be possible if MGS belongs to Konami and Kojima left the company?
Can you link the proof to this?
I still think you're a retard but I also want to believe

>>377438845
>Can you link the proof to this?
How about you just Google it? Kojima working on the Metal Gear movie is not obscure knowledge.

>>377438845
Search about Jordan Vogt-Roberts, it's the same director of King Kong 2017.

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>>377438845
they announced the mg movie loooooooong ago back when koji was hanging out with avi arad

>>377438845
http://www.slashfilm.com/jordan-vogt-roberts-metal-gear-solid-movie-update/
According to him it's still happening

>>377439226
>She surfifed?

>>377439226
Is it true that the Venom isn't Big Boss twist blew Kiefer's mind so much that it made him actually respect video games and their potential to be art?

>377438673
You forgot your trip Caramel

>>377434528
Some goobers do actually believe there was a fucking whale that ate the chopper

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>>377439505
yeah

>>377439801
not a chance. there's more to come.

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>>377429385
>implying Skullface wasnt Sokolov

>>377432293
No it wasn't, stop lying.

>>377432293
GZ was originally part of MGSV you mong.
GZ was going to act as MGSV's own version of The Tanker/Virtuous Mission. But Kojima fucked up so hard, Konami told him to cut it from the game and sell it as a separate title so Konami could gain some sort of profit.

>>377440073
Those concept arts are really cool. I'm not usually into headcanons but I want to believe that Chico actually did survive the helicopter crash and by 1984 could be found naruto running around Africa in a red coat and with a messed up face.

>>377436886
>there will never be a MGS3 DGN
1 and 2 were pretty awesome.

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>>377439930
Your shitty and cringey maymay pics make Caramel likeable by comparison. You are this pathetic, really.

>>377440425
That concept of Chico was probably going to be used in parallel to the Paz story.
While Paz was a hallucination of Venom's guilt, Chico would have been a hallucination of Venom's anger.

>>377438325
I WANT TO BELIEVE

>>377440574
indeed this guy is cancer and has a vendetta on carmel for some reason, hes still hilarious tho let him be Kek.

>>377440734
well, they was also a concept art of adult chico in the DD, and audio files revealed in the "buddy" section snake yell "Chico!" just like he does with a Quiet.

>>377440886
BELIEVE V/ROTHER ITS HAPPENING

ITS NOT OVER YET

>>377441070
I wonder what his abilities would've been, the concept art showed him to have an axe as a weapon, would he be more combat focused for players that want to play through the game as a shooter?

>>377441070
That's the first time I hear that. Source?

>>377420180
portable ops ends with snake getting a shitload of money, so how is he basically broke at the start of peace walker

>>377441248
I'm pretty sure he would have been one of the first "skull" prototype and would have the same capacity than them, or at least the teleportation.

>>377441258
for the concept art, it's in the art of MGSV, for the voice, in the games files, i checked.

>>377441749
Kojima never saw Portable Ops as being canon.

>>377441856
the game was always "partially" canon.

>>377440574
>>377441062
You forgot your trip again Caramel
Samefagging to make yourself feel better is truly pathetic

>>377441913
But no one ever said what parts were and weren't canon, so its just a safe bet to say none of it is.

>>377442089
i think it was the overall story that was canon, minus some details (Sokolov survival, Campbell...)

>>377438845
Alan Moore has been asked for input for movies about properties that he created but doesn't own either, and the split wasn't amicable. I'm sure DC weren't jumping around in joy.

It means nothing. Ya'll a bunch of crazy people for still believing this BS.

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>>377442048
Whatever you say faggot

>>377442089
Ground Zeroes has an extra level where you can erase logos of canon games. You can't erase MPO.

>>377442089
In literally the first 10 minutes of Peace Walker, Miller says something along the lines of "leave all the stuff that happened in San Hieronymo behind" (San Hieronymo being the location PO takes place in) which at least proves that something did happen,
I guess the overall story of the FOX unit going rogue and Big Boss hunting them down using a team of recruited soldiers who go on to become Foxhound is canon but the finer details like Frank Jägers backstory (he's an engineered super soldier that regularly gets his memories wiped in portable ops) are not.

>>377442507
meant for
>>377441749

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The amount of popcorn I will be throwing at my face at E3 when you never be game over fags are BTFO for like the 80th time in two years will blot out the sun.

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>>377443245
Ok, just be careful not to choke on those popcorns. Imagine what a mess would be for your parents to have a faggot ghost wandering around the house for eternity.

>>377443747
Put your trip back on, Caramel.

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>>377443878
What's your problem? Has Caramel molested you as a kid?