MGSV was dog sh- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttS shmR2x-k

>>377411145
If only the whole game was like that

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>We live and die by your orders boss

>>377411145
Venom was a better man that Big Boss. Poor Kaz.

none of the mainline mgs games are bad, pcbros just like to shitpost

>The entire good parts of MGSV were shown in the trailers

>>377413641
But the game has a great rating on steam, it's just /v/ really.

Ahh yes the cutscene that we already saw in a trailer.

Truly a masterpiece.

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MGSV (GZ+TPP) is the best game of the last 10 years, and makes a compelling argument for best MGS game of all time.

The most common and vociferous arguments against it are mostly extraneous to the shipped content (marketing, personal hype, and content deemed unsuitable for release [Chapter 3]), unreasonable expectations of the open world genre (>muh heavily populated wilderness), or misunderstanding the ingenuity of plot delivery (the threat to spoken language is conveyed mostly through the spoken language itself [cassette tapes]).

You are not a video game director, as much as you fashion yourself to be one.

I don't care what anyone says. I fucking loved MGSV and still play it daily.

>>377414815
This.
>and still play it daily.
but not this

>>377411145
You know what, I just skimmed thought this video: https://youtu.be/ojB8jsBf-NE and know I can see that, after watching at the very ending the preview of chapter two, that two things killed this game for me: fucking filler, that was completely pointless and repetitive, in retrospect I whish I'd only had done the main missions as the game is and never had watched the trailers, that had the main plot points condensed. Now that I know that japs like spoilers in trailers, and that this is a growing trend with usa movies, I'll never watch trailers again.

>>377411145
it is shit you colossal faggot just because you get disuaded by shiny cinematics and shit "emotional"writing doesnt mean its good
it means you have shit taste and that your life is so pathetic that you get emotional the second you hear a chord in a game
hang yourself

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>>377414815
>>377414906
I play MGO3 pretty often still. I don't know why.

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>>377415728
>mfw people enjoying things you don't like make you this assblasted

I wonder who is really pathetic here.

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>>377411145
this is now a ruise cruise thread

https://twitter.com/Reapers_Phantom/status/865262858208018432

>>377414741
>MGSV (GZ) is the best game of the last 10 years, and makes a compelling argument for best MGS game of all time
fixed

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>>377411145
Don't forget the Huey Exile seen, Kaz's dialog still gives me goosebumps

it

>>377405937
>>377405998
>>377407050
>>377407229

>>377416441
That's like calling the Tanker chapter of MGS2 its own game. Don't be dense.

>>377416568
ITS HAPPENING!!

None of the events in this game were real or actually happened. This is all a dream inside the real Big Boss while he was comatose. That's why we see Ishmael get shot in the intro, that's why Ismael has 2 working eyes, that's why Ocelot is a completely different person, that's why Venom/Big Boss survived a car accident that should of killed them, thats why we see the whale, thats why the cutscene where Big Boss is on the bike is a sunrise, however when Ocelot goes to get Venom its still night time, thats why he feels the pain for what happened to Paz, and that's why Kaz never killed Venom, knowing he wasn't the real BB from the very start. There's more that goes into this. Venom never existed

>>377416446
Also Paz hallucinations

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>>377416575
The tanker sequence was not sold as a separate entity like GZ was, GZ itself is a far better metal gear game then MGSV was

>>377416575
But MGS2 was amazing in every way. Tanker + main game. MGSV was only good in GZ

>that voice acting
>the way the music is used
>that shot of the sea against the sunset
MGSV's cutscenes are as good as videgame cutscenes will ever be.

>>377416079
It's still alive?

here anons, have some more playtime
http://www.nexusmods.com/metalgearsolidvtpp/mods/464/?

>>377416797
kind of

>>377416689
Big Shell is the worst level design in the whole series.

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>>377416920
>Big Shell is the worst level design in the whole series.

>>377416728
I get that Kojima got screwed over hard by Konami, that the game was rushed out to a 2015 release because Konami wanted their money quicker, and that the game was more about player experiences than a plot, but goddammit man.

They had pretty much all the right setup, all the material, all the potential and they instead play incredibly hands-off with the story which in and of itself is pretty simple compared to MGS fair.

>>377416920
Not when V exists. V doesn't even have level design

>>377416679
>The tanker sequence was not sold as a separate entity
How young are you?

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>>377416668
Also there's a fan in the ending scene of Shining lights, even in death, but we never si such fan during the gameplay section.
We see the fan in the hospital though.

>>377416679
I agree with you, but I mean wasn't Zone of the Enders a 50 quid copy of the tanker?

>played until 100% in the PS3
>got a PS4
>thinking of getting for the PS4 now
Talk me out of it, /v/.

>Like a total of 30 minutes that actually feel like Metal Gear, the rest is open world filler garbage
Yeah it was dog shit

>>377416993
Kojima is a hack who can't think outside of cliche. His brain is full of nothing but American cuisine and pulp action fluff. Konami was right in dropping that demanding overpaid cunt and have only grown since then.

>>377417246
get the definitive edition

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>>377417191
>>377416668
Sergio said he'll use VR to teach his patient how to walk after the surgery, also said that VR can be used to treat phantom pain.

Something happened to Big Boss when he returned to Camp Omega and now he's using VR to help him recover.

>>377417373
Just wait till Death Stranding becomes a cult classic.

>>377417246
At least buy it on steam, playing it two times on console makes no sense.

>>377417359
This. People always bring up Chapter 3 like that's the only problem.

>>377417246
get the PC version so you can at least mod it
the Infinite Heaven mod can let you tweak so much shit you can expand the playtime quite a bit

>>377417463
I only have a shitty notebook, anon.

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>>377417191
Pic related

>>377417191
Yep, there's actually alot of facts that support this theory, like for example I believe there's an audio log that says the facial reconstruction surgery was done in 1979, however in game were led to believe, and even told it was done after awaking from the coma in 1984. Or as I mentioned, the intro has a scene where Ishmael is in front of you, the scene where it pans this ass for a second, and you can clearly see him get shot and fall down, and if you pay close attention he appears in a room next to you as if he teleported.

>>377417359
>doing mercenaries things with a Metal Gear at the end
>doesn't feel like Metal Gear

Also MG changed costantly through the series, why are you complaining just now?

>>377417552
Then save your money and build a mid-high tier desktop when you can afford it.

Honestly, MGSV as a whole was yet another open world case of moments of brilliance where it all comes together, surrounded by hours of doing the same thing or running around with monotony

And we didn't even get a return to the better-designed Camp Omega like we were promised, just its usage as a map in MGO3

>>377417763
You know exactly what I am talking about though, why deny it? In V you constantly felt disconnected from the story because open world is garbage and does that to games.
Also, V had no love to detail. I love all the little things you can find in 1-4. Just recently I found another little easter egg in MGS2 and that game is literally 100 years old.
V is just copypasted garbo outposts and containers at OKB Zero have "Diamond Dogs" on them because they could not be bothered to make separate textures.

>>377411145
dog shit

boring piece of trash

>one cutscene that is never mentioned again
>the same cutscene teased on the trailers

>MGSV as a whole was yet another open world case of moments of brilliance where it all comes together
>all comes together
so never?

>>377414741
>You are not a video game director, as much as you fashion yourself to be one.
I'm not a video game director but I imagine if I was I'd say that repeating the same helicopter cutscene a minimum of 50 times is fucking retarded

>>377418636
clearly you weren't very creative in playstyle then

>>377416350
without caramel?

>>377418771
>muh creativity
Yeah I remember seeing some faggot try to get a headshot record for hours

sure is creative

It's not fucking minecraft you know.

I played the hell out of this game when it came out. I was glued to my PS4 the whole time.
I was dissapointed by the ending like many fans, I dont think it is people following the crowd and shitposting for the hell of it.
That said, there were moments of genius in this game, and the storyline/gameplay both combined, had moments which touched the best of what videogames can accomplish.
I feel MGSV will fall into the MGS2 category. Despised by many at first, but in years to come heralded as one of the greatest games of all time.

But I think its pretty obvious the game got cut short. Had it been given another year or two in development, I think we truely would have witnessed a masterpiece. It is undeniably sad that that didn't happen, and now MGS is doomed to a life of pachinko and meaningless zombie survival games. But at least we got to experience glimpses of what could have been.

It's kind of ironic. The biggest tragedy of the MGS saga is actually not the downfall of Big Boss. It's that the game was cut short.

I'm sad /v/. Theres never gunna be any more MGS trailers, the preceding hype trains, and any more answers (as well as inevitably more questions).

MGS is the best videogame saga that ever was. I dont think another game will come along which I find myself so invested in. Maybe I've just gotten older and disinterested in most series, but nothing seems to come close to how interesting these games have been. Farewell Snake.

>>377418938
>Theres never gunna be any more MGS trailers
there are
for MGS3 pachinko and Survive

>>377418675
You can start mission by land

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>>377417434
But there isn't a post crash helicopter ride anon, did you played the games?
There is a cutscene from the trailers that slipped into TPP with bloddy Snake but that happen BEFORE the crash, you can see that after rescuing Kaz in game.
This scene is nowhere to be found in Ground Zeroes.
This mean kojima fucked up when editing the "flashback" and put removed content, but to make it work, it put it BEFORE the crash, not after.
Get your facts straight man.

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>>377419260
The post crash image takes place during dawn. He has deep cuts in his face from the Paz explosion. Not to mention Big Boss has no blood on his face throughout GZ.
>b-b-b-but the soldier that dies in his arms
No blood splashes onto his face.
>b-b-b-but dynamic blood from the gameplay
The blood from the gameplay does not carry over to the MSF cutscene in GZ.
>b-b-b-but my dynamic day / night cycle
The time of day is fixed in GZ.

This is not just removed content. His face is fucked up from the PAZ EXPLOSION and the helicopter is STILL AIRBORNE. This is not cut content, no content is supposed to exist after the Paz explosion because the helicopter "crashed". Yet here we see Big Boss, face messed up from Paz's explosion, in the same helicopter, still airborne, during DAWN (a few hours after GZ). The helicopter never "crashed", they returned to Camp Omega after MSF's destruction. The revelation there will completely refrain the events of TPP.

They briefly show the shot during the GZ recap in TPP after you rescue Miller. That is because Venom Snake briefly remembers a fragment of the truth (they returned to Camp Omega) but obviously doesn't remember all of it.

>>377417702
That's just a typical fake out to make you go "oh no" before you realize "oh, he was over here", it was another patient that looked similar from the back because of a head bandage. Rewatch the cutcene.

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>>377411145
>MGSV was dog sh-

I actually liked this game. I liked the OST, I liked the smooth gameplay (stealth is pretty nice). I liked the optimization and how well it runs with 60 fps / max settings without looking like ass.

Bad writing and plot? Well, am I supposed to expect it to be good? It's Kojima after all. He's a hack. None of his plots were good.

>>377419757
>The post crash image takes place during dawn
Only in a trailer.
TRAILER != GAMEPLAY
There is tons of content from trailers that didn't make into the game or was changed, like the time of arrival from Kaz rescue mission.
>His face is fucked up from the PAZ EXPLOSION
Nope, explosion happens AFTER that scene, did you even played the goddamn game?

Show me proof that this happen BEFORE, solid proof, like, something inside the games, not shitty trailers Kojimbo used to bambozzled everyone.

>>377420151
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>>377419890
I recommend that you rewatch that scene on YouTube and slow it down. It's Ishmael. You really this Kojima is that much a lazy copout hack that he'd use the same exact character model for some throwaway NPC? Seriously it's the same person.

>>377420151
>Nope, explosion happens AFTER that scene, did you even played the goddamn game?
Look at the cut on his left cheek and above his left eye. Those are cuts. Big Boss has zero injuries of the such throughout the entire game. You cant even receive cuts like that in TPP. In TPP you get blood on Snake's model but no injuries like cuts. So Big Boss has cuts on his face which only could've been caused by the Paz explosion, in a still airborne helicopter which shouldn't be airborne, during dawn, when the main GZ mission takes place during night.

>TRAILER != GAMEPLAY
Why is gameplay relevant in this discussion?

>Show me proof that this happen BEFORE
I'm not saying it happened before, I'm saying it happened after, so you agree?

>like, something inside the games, not shitty trailers Kojimbo used to bambozzled everyone.
Said moment does not exist within the fucking game you idiot, otherwise I wouldn't be talking about it. It's part of the Camp Omega ending.

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>>377416975
oh yeah cant way to travel using the same boring orange bridges to the same boring octogonal room

with brain dead enemies that will only hear you if you run in a certain spot on the map., they can see you from far way, but cant hear shit

almost splinter cell levels of bad IA.


10/10 game

>>377420380
>Why is gameplay relevant in this discussion?
Because trailers always show "work in progress", what you see in the final game is what you "get"

The exact order of events are IN THE GODDAMN GAME
https://youtu.be/OpO2rk2PPE0?t=1h45m47s
1- Rescue Kaz
2- Snake look outside watching all the destrucion
3- Helicopter Crash

You cannot prove otherwise, its totally like this in the game.

>>377420875
You keep repeating your own point which I destroy in my initial argument. You never attempt to counter any part of my post. I will not respond to you any further. To highlight a piece you especially should be responding to:
>Look at the cut on his left cheek and above his left eye. Those are cuts. Big Boss has zero injuries of the such throughout the entire game. You cant even receive cuts like that in TPP. In TPP you get blood on Snake's model but no injuries like cuts. So Big Boss has cuts on his face which only could've been caused by the Paz explosion, in a still airborne helicopter which shouldn't be airborne, during dawn, when the main GZ mission takes place during night.

>>377421123
YOU'RE the one that can't refute my point, you cannot prove with FACTS the order of events you're describing while I just proved the exact order of events.
Your shitty fanfiction theories don't cut it.

Thanks for trying thought.

It's pretty fucking bad desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_cSywyuEQw&t

>>377421294
Caramel defeated.
Its settled, it was Autism. Severe one.

>>377421294
the problem here is that every aspect form soldiers color uniform to random mumbers hinted stuff on the lore, you have to realize one think anon nothing in those trailers is "random" or "work in progres", the trailers is how the autist in V figured out half of the plot months before the relase.

Now if you want to believe in the ruse cruise thats up to you, i can get carmel goes full autist some times but he has solid evidence of MOST of his claims.

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>>377421801
You forgot your trip caramel, you already said this in every thread, shut up faggot.

>>377421864
Im not carmel nigger, i just happen to believe most of the autistic shit he says, i also posted this yesterday >>377416350 one can only hope they arent pushing the nuklear disarmament for MGSS but some shit is happening this E3

So fuck off and stop shitposting newfag

>>377418938
The ruise cruise is still going m8 dont loss hope.

Not yet. Its not over yet.

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>>377422223
Fuck off caramel
>>377422418
Stop replying to yourself caramel

>>377414741
Ya mgs2 will always have a special place in my heart and be my favorite but V was still amazing, and i was able to have more kinds of fun and play an mgs longer than ever before.

>>377422453
Nigger stop being cancer, believe it or not people have diferent opinions than yours and not every single one of the is carmel, i dont even get why you hate him so much to even make shitty reddit memes just for him. They are kinda fun i give you that. Kek

>>377411145
it

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>>377422695
Shut the fuck up Caramel

>>377423091
Still not caraml tho

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>>377424038
Great.
Excuse me then.
CARAMEL IS A FAGGOT.
There, thank you.