> Nobody is talking about the next best arena shooter But why?

>>377375106
kill yourself mobashit shill fucking loser

>>377375423
It's not a MOBA, it's literally Quake but with graphics and Waifus.
So salty because no closed beta.

>>377375106
Its gonna be doa, just look how poorly its performing on twitch.

>>377375624
fuck off retarded shill your game is fucking garbage and you are a failure

>>377375106
Most Quake fans aren't playing it, and casual Overwatch scum certainly won't buy into it. Will flop hard.

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>>377375624
quake always had waifus

waiting for ctf

I legitimately don't understand who this is made for quack autists don't like change and casuals will just stick to their games.

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>>377376170
> All of these characters and more are in Nu Quake with glorious Cyber Waifu

Remind me again why people aren't playing this? Is it just because they're shitty that they got no Closed Beta code?

>>377376589
> abilities

Dropped.

>>377376860
> Abilities do not affect gameplay whatsoever apart from a minor 5 sec boost.
There are still power ups and game play is the exact same.
People ask for innovation, and when it is presented they cry.

Kill yourself.

>>377376589
nyx is literally the most boring thing

>>377376860
>>377376036
>>377376009
>>377375816
>>377375423

Here's your (you)

None of you niggers have even tried it. It's literally Quake with abilities that can even the playing field that have to be recharged by picking them up off the map. You retards don't even know how they are implemented.

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>>377377010
> hot girl is hot, but boring

What'a changed? Overwatch did it with Mercy and Widow?

>closed beta

I wonder why no one is talking about it

The game is alright but I'm not interested to spend any more time with it because there's no matchmaking system. TDM and Sacrifice are always push overs and I don't have enough heroes to play Duel.

>>377377163
> Not being special enough to recieve invite
Probably because you're too busy playing Rust or games from 1995-2000 like the rest of the spergs here.

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>>377377112
Not only is Nyx boring by design (curvy girl with neon colored pixie cut over one eye, wowzers, certainly original and not in 30 other games as well as your local Spencer's Gifts), but she's doubly boring compared to the motley crew of cyborgs, maniacs, the undead and Orbb that make up the existing Quake roster.

>>377377409
It's not suppose to be original, it's emulating original Quake you mutt.

>>377376589
>Is it just because they're shitty that they got no Closed Beta code?

I don't know, you tell me why I don't have a beta code yet.

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>>377377665
>it's emulating original Quake you mutt.
I'm pretty sure a cheeky girl in a bodysuit with iridescent hair is nearly the exact opposite of the original Quake, dufe.

because it sucks

whatever grandpa

will they ever make an actual sequel to quake?

>>377377409
>______THICC_____

>>377375106
lol, arena shooters have been dead since the early 2000's

>>377375106
I heard concerns that merit using my time elsewhere currently and will reevaluate it after release.

>>377378103
no
Q1 was a katamari of ideas cobbled together to make a game and caused tons of conflict within id to the point of romero leaving after its completion, it's the thrown-together environments and enemies and weapons that give it its unique feel that winds up being way more memorable and fun than it has any right to be

>>377378220
:( makes me sad

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>>377375624
>>377375106
Reminder that you can have 4chan X notify you when a new IP pops up in thread.

Do your part. Report shills.

>>377378337
you've played more than just the base game, right?
'cause if not there's two official expansion packs and about two decades worth of fantastic levels on Quaddicted to wade through

>>377375106
Probably because its fucking shit

Shoot the Rocket launcher and Nailgun if you want a peak at the worst netcode I've ever seen.

Or the characters who can eat 4 rail shots?

Or the characters who can dodge rail shots because of their busted hit boxes that were hastily created in an attempt to copy Overwatch?

Or the fact you "rent" champions?

>abilities
>paid characters
>loot boxes

Hahahah nope, fuck off with your jewish tricks

>>377378402
i haven't cause i'm a baby and only played it for the first time like a year ago. i should check all that out

>you have to buy champions
hahahahAhahaHahahaha

Holy shit, I can't believe I wasted 9gb on this beta.

>>377377856
Nigga it's an open beta, just go signup on Bethesda.net

don't waste your time. It's trash.

Because it's an Overwatch clone.

>>377375624
>graphics, waifus, salty
How to get filtered instantly
Honestly please use a tripcode so I never have to see you spout memes again

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>>377378535
go for it man, shit's great
pretty much just sort by best ratings and go wild, there's even a number of full mods with new weapons/enemies/etc

>>377377856
?
I googled the website, clicked sign up and got a key. Yesterday.

>>377377101
You're trying way too hard. I hope your pay is worth it.

And yes, I've played the beta. Uninstalled the same day and went back to having fun with Q3.

I honestly felt that the abilities where lackluster and didn't add much

>>377377923
I'm pretty sure you're wrong, dufe

>>377378743
but that's not true, anon
why lying on the internet?

>>377378898
Explain your reasoning while I go take a pee, because I'm honestly interested in if you can back up your shitposts.

>>377377101
>even the playing field
SHILL

>>377378060
Dino-fu a best.

Lol Quake is for faggots

>>377378203
> Quake
> Arena Shooter
Choose one.

it's gunna flop like every other arena shooter released in the last 15 years

no one cares anymore. no one is going to spend time to get good at it. no one wants to play a game where a skilled player will completely and utterly shut you down to the point all you do is spawn, and then instantly die over and over. no one wants to take the time to learn how to move fast. these character/heroes won't do shit but alienate true arena fans, and OW/TF2/casual shooter fans won't dig it enough to over look the above mentioned things.

I played the beta, the first two weekends. didn't even bother to download the latest one. it's fucking quake, I played that shit to death 20 years ago, slapping on some half assed MOBA features ain't gunna make me play now.

>>377378365
> Reminder than nobody cares about your insecurities to the extent that you have to give a shit about samefagging.
Kill yourself.

>>377379062
>quake
>arena shooter

pick two bubs, quake defined the arena shooter

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They fucking ruined Anarki. He looks like shit and he never shuts the fuck up. Give me a legacy skin where they sew his mouth back up, please.

>>377375106

have more than one monitor? next time you're fragged, your invisible mouse cursor that has been moving the whole time while you were alive has moved into the other monitor (even though it can't move off of your primary monitor in menus) so you click and boom, game is minimized. Absolutely infuriating.


Also, no dedicated servers, only matchmaking garbage where you wait 3-5 minutes to start a game then get kicked back into a lobby afterwards a la overwatch.

Core gameplay is on point but is ruined by the lobby system. Needs server browser and the ability to just hang out on the same server like every other sane FPS.

>>377379309
HOW DO YOU DO, FELLOW LOTTERY WINNERS

>>377378845
>went back to having fun with Q3

Then what's the issue?

>>377375106
>classes with different stats, starting weapon loadouts, and abilities
it's not a quake game

Games pretty fun. The good players absolutely destroy the new players though. Hope there some sort of matchmaking on release.

>>377379536
You shilling this retarded crap.

>>377379102
People want to play competitively, but the Quake formula is not good for competition, and especially not good for new players, and that goes doubly when the only people left good at the game are literal Gods.
I also don't understand what they want to be their main mode for the game. Even if you find random DM fun, it will get boring fast without community servers, so unless they get community servers going I don't see how that works. Is the main mode Duel? If so then that's a fucking wash right from the start, because not only is Duel terrible in this game but playing it requires that you either constantly rent two other characters or buy them outright.

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>>377379586
>___Quake___ Champions
>Not a quake game

>>377379648
>You shilling this retarded crap.
You should probably grow up and realize that people might have tastes that are different to your own.

Some technical issues need to be worked out, but overall it's really great. I wasn't too excited about the whole champions-aspect but it's been implemented much better than I'd have expected.

Not surprised in the least that the turbocasuals on /v/ would be bashing it though, lol

>>377378898
t. someone who has never played quake in their life

I've been playing the shit out of QC, Im level 24 this phase of the beta and im liking it the more I go. That said Nyx is lame and boring compared to quake 3 and the rest of QC.

Also join us in /arena/ desu

>>377379723
oh yeah? Invisible War. Fuck you.

>>377376860
>pro quakers like fatal1ty, carnage etc are already playing/streaming it
>they like it
>some /v/irgin don't because IT'S NOT LIKE LAN EXPERIENCE FROM 15 YEARS AGO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Ikb6B55Qc&t=88s

Lawbreakers is better. As one of those purists who actually like quake, champions is shit

It's basically Quake 3 with microtransactions. SUPER not worth.

I mean you can get loot boxes in the beta ffs. This is not a Quake game made with love, just Bethesda seeing Doom 4 multi is flopping and they REALLY want to get some of that sweet OW whale money

>>377379990
Will remember that for later.

>>377380485
A quake you dont have to buy and you get free shit for playing. Wahhh.
How do people forget that games used to cost money to buy? You won't need to spend a cent on QC to get everything out of it.
(Assuming they dont add in DLC map packs or something)

>>377380731
wrong, you can only permanently unlock QC characters if you pay real money, ingame currency only lets you rent them

>>377380485
Could you please not spread misinformation?

>>377380731
Wait it's gonna be f2p? Well shit that changes everything

Yeah if it's free it's fun. I assumed it was gonna be the standard $60 price tag (Since OW and Titanfall got away with it). Definitely not worth $60, ABSOLUTELY worth free

>>377380836
Wrong. You can get the champions in the crates that you get for free. They aren't even that rare.
But please, keep talking like you know shit anon.

>>377380836
I thought I asked you politely. You can get them from chests as well, you stupid fuck.

>>377380339
>It's another 45 minute video of Tuberculosis Britbong

Seriously, how does this retard have an audience? If you can't get your point across in 15 minutes, you're simply being superfluous for the sake of seeming more intelligent.

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>>377380924
okay, so your defense is "you have to randomly roll a free champion in a crate"

>>377381051
The game doesnt cost anything to get. Yes you will randomly get FREE champions. If you want to not be a jew you can also choose to buy the heros for a lot less than an older quake game used to cost. I really don't see your problem with it.

That said it's impossible not to have enough coins to rent the champions every day.

>>377380975
I honestly enjoy lengthy videos.
>>377381051
Or you can buy the full game if you're against f2p practices. Step up your bait game, anon.

>>377375106

Because its a Closed Beta, plus because it has a shitty netcode they really need to fix, or the game would be dead on arrival instantly. Arena shooters live and die on their netcodes.

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>>377381278
>Or you can buy the full game

>>377379143
>not a new IP
nice

>>377381376
You dont HAVE to. Save your sheckles you fucking jew holy shit.

Its Quake, common arena shooter-speed building techniques are just "skills" in the game. Like constant bunny hopping increasing speed is not a thing originally in Quake, it was a thing in Painkiller multiplayer.

You just choose whether you trade your double jumps with telefraggers and rocket jumps.

The core gameplay feels nice too bad the champions ruin it.

>>377381729

How? The only obnoxious "ability" is that robot shield thing. And thats on the slowest champion in the game so its not going to be used much in higher level play.

>>377382085
He might see some play in duels. People often walk slowly in there to mask their sounds, so his passive and active might come in handy.

>>377382085
t. complete scrub

The robot is the weakest of them all.
Ranger can instagib you with his orb and its not even difficult to do, plus the utility and juke potential is ridiculous.
Sorlag can pretty much do the same by instagibbing with the acid.
Nyx's ability has so many effective uses it's an incredible ability that doesnt really belong in this game.

>>377382085
Rapha was wrecking shit with him last night in duel. I can't see him being good in sacrifice or tdm, though.

>>377382186

Thing is he can't dominate the map like the others so other champions can just run circles around him and collect everything.

I guess he would be fine in maps with a lot of longer corridors since thats where he can build speed most efficiently.

>>377382269
btw i have over 50 duels and 3.0 w/r

>>377382269

Says the guy who fails to read, I said he's probably not viable in higher level play because he's too slow.

>>377382387
What did I fail to read? You said he has the only obnoxious ability which is simply false.

>>377382315
He can be useful in maps where blue and red are next to each other, like Ruins. It's not like you really need to run around all the time.

>>377378749
> HURRR GIT FILTERED
Still replying.
> HURRR USE TRIPCODE
But will complain if tripcodes were used.

How many levels of retardation are you operating on, sir?

>So far
It's fun, combat works. But it still feels a bit dumb. The good parts are all the classic elements, the new stuff is all just cheap makeup.

>>377382452

I said its obnoxious but mitigated by the fact its bolted on such a weak character, so getting around it is easy.

Unless you're trying to say theres some other obnoxious abilities in the game that I'm not aware of.

cause it plays like ASSSSSS.
>matchmaking
>abilities
>characters have varying stats
>you dont' even HAVE all the characters, you have to buy them
>have to pay real money if you want to have them permanently
it's shit. Everything about it is shit except for choosing what weapon you want to start with. That is an okay change and I wouldn't mind that in QL.

>>377383027
>Unless you're trying to say theres some other obnoxious abilities in the game that I'm not aware of.

Maybe. Just maybe, that is the reason I literally spelled them out for you in the same post?

>>377376589
nobody is playing it because it has the tell tale signs of a shit game. The key factor being that you only hire a character and you don;t actually keep them. retarded, dumb, fucking stupid, illogical.

>>377383424
"im incapable of reading a thread before commenting on something I know nothing about"
well posted friendo.

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>>377383424

Its the same business model as newer Hi-Rez games like SMITE and Paladins. Either you F2P and rent heroes to play, or you just pay 20 bucks one time and get all current and future heroes, essentially "buying" the game legit.

Then they go jew on the skins and cosmetics.

ITT : overwatch babies the thread

>>377379856
It's not a matter of taste, you dumb millenial. You're shilling this trash saying it's THE Quake, while it's clear for literally everybody with at least half brain functioning that it's not.

Why is the railgun so fucking powerful, other than the fact that most of the characters don't even have the default base health to survive a single shot from it.

>>377384446

It creates fun plays and a lot of cool moments in tournaments. Has done so ever since Quake 2.

>>377384190
So far the only people who say it's not quake are purists and contrarians. Neither of those opinions has any value.

>>377384446
>Railgun
>Powerful
>Only does 80 damage unscoped

>>377384446
>most of the characters don't even have the default base health to survive a single shot from it.
That's the drawback of being agile. Pretty good balance, in my opinion.

>>377384807
It's Quake alright. That's why it's going to die just like every other Quake-style game.

fuckin hell the viewership on twitch has been weak. seriously if this flops i will be amused but slightly upset that the quake name has been used on this waste of time of a project

>>377380485
just wait till QC flops, then DOOM 2 will have ESPORTS multiplayer for sure :^)

>>377376964
no, abilities are literally a crutch that makes tasks that took skill in quake live MUCH easier. additionally most of them are get out of jail free cards in fights, and now fighting for quad damage will be simplified to everyone spamming their abilities at the press of a key. the strong emphasis on personal mechanical and mental ability is now reduced thanks to abilities.

>>377384807
Just read the fucking thread.
Or any other Quakewatch thread, for that matter. People have explained to you countless times why this game isn't Quake. Holy shit, how can a person be so fucking dense?

I do not enjoy how getting shot affects your momentum, no sir.

>>377379856
>GROW UP GOY
get new tactics, this one was stale two years ago

>>377385128
Yeah, I read it times and times again. There's nothing new. Abilities and stats doesn't make the game any less Quake.

>>377385961
If someone's only rebuttal is calling an opponent shill I don't see reason why I shouldn't call them underage in return.

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>>377386107
Because you're trying to market as Quake something filled with elements that are not part of Quake at all and then call everyone who says those elements aren't part of Quake a purist or contrarian.

We don't want to buy your shitty game.

Still waiting for classic mode

>>377383116
> I haven't played the game, so I'll just assume from watching E-Celebs stream.

Try reading the entire thread before replying, Turbosperg.

>>377386249
Quake 2 brought plethora of new elements to the table, yet no one called it non-quake. Quake 3 went even further and scrapped single player altogether. But I assume you don't remember that being the case because of your young age.

Get back to Reflex Arena if you want classic Quake HD. Oh wait, you don't have it, because you don't need another barebones arena FPS.

It's great that you're not "buying" the game. After being involved in QL/Reflex for a while I've realised how backward half of the 'vets' are. The less these people make an impact on QC the better.

>>377376414
Nobody

>>377376414
It's Overwatch with the Quake brand.

>>377385074
> Video game
> Takes skill

You should try going outside and implementing real skills, you turboautistic.

>>377386721
People who say that either haven't played the game or just baiting.

>>377386793
Hi OP.

>>377376414
People who want that quake street cred without actually playing it.

>>377375106
>overquake
>quakewatch
>no community servers
>no community content
>monetized skins
>e-sports

>>377386845
Nice try, but it is I, the real OP.

I only created this thread to discuss the game. But like every other thread on /v/ it just turns into a spergy argument about shills and "MAH ORIGINAL".

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>>377375106
because it's trash that's not even remotely close to quake. kill yourself

>>377380339
>spends 20 minutes going on about how elitist players are ruining quake
>spends another 20 minutes about how wishes there was a pure duel mode

hypocrite

>>377380975
>>377380339
daily reminder totalcancer has 12% lg

Who cares? It's both too much like Quake to succeed, and not different enough to stand out. Anyone that wants a high-flying shooter with abilities will play Lawbreakers or some other shit when they make that, whatever it may be. The few people who still bother to play Quake will be playing Quake Live.

How can anyone honestly deny there is no shilling on /v/ after reading this thread

>>377387134
>has arenas
>has pickpups
>has arena control
>has classic game modes
>has classic weapons
>requires movement skills
>requires memory to control timing
>requires high aiming skills to win firefights
But it also has characters with stats and 1 (one) ability, so
>not even remotely close to quake. kill yourself

You really should consider drinking a bottle of bleach.

>>377375106
It turns out putting it on your shitty bethesda launcher nobody uses rather then steam isn't the best idea for exposure

>>377387495
>stats and abilities
thats not quake

>>377387263
It's simple, just take your medicine and go outside once in a while

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>>377387624

Reminder that pandering to quake purists will not make a successful Arena shooter

>>377387669
>OP shilling an utter cancer of a game is an ukroach in exile from /pol/

Pottery.

>>377387723
If being successful means you need to do this f2p LoL-tier bullshit then I don't want a new successful arena shooter

>>377380339
>paid shills like it
Woow. Who would have guessed!

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>>377387775
>OP
Another proof that contrarians and purists are just a bunch of winbags.

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>>377376589
Random word capitalization: autists, Germans, or both?

>>377375106
DOOM MP IS BETTER

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>>377388263
Whoa, let's not get carried away.

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>>377388263

>>377375106
The game is pretty fun. Matchmaking isn't great, I tend to fucking dominate every deathmatch game, only played 1 close one ever (6 players within 5 kills of 1st place).
Going to fail because arena shooter autists hate change and will proceed to shittalk every new thing until the genre dies forever

>SHILL SHILL SHILL SHILL SHILL UR A SHILL OP
Kill yourselves

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>>377388263
literally alt-tabbed out of doom2016 multiplayer right now. honestly it's good as long as you don't play scrub mode tdm shit

>>377387495
>has arenas
a game having maps doesn't make it quake/arena shooter
>has pickpups
there you go, it has one of the two required characteristics
>has arena control
ties in with pickups, nice redundancy
>has classic game modes
obviously when people debate whether it's an arena shooter or not, they are referring to the premier modes that are confirmed to be the esports focus. there's really no guarantee that classic modes will be what we think anyway. everyone thought duel wouldn't have abilities and champs but it did.
>has classic weapons
confirmed
>requires movement skills
confirmed
>requires memory to control timing
ties in with pickups
>requires high aiming skills to win firefights
not necessarily an arena shooter thing
>But it also has characters with stats and 1 (one) ability, so
>not even remotely close to quake. kill yourself
you must be some fucking noob to not be aware of the impact that taking out equal starts and replacing them with different attributes and abilities has on the formula. quake was quake mostly because everyone had the same shit (until someone picked something up), jumped the same way, ran at the same speed, and focused on moving and firing their guns to win battles and control the map rather than press a key to activate some retard shit and pick the smaller guy to counter the bigger guy

>>377388782
>rather than press a key to activate some retard shit and pick the smaller guy to counter the bigger guy
Yep that is exactly what is happening, you aren't oversimplifying anything just to make your stupid argument sound better

Name one FPS in the last 5 years that didn't have different characters with abilities

I genuinely can't think of one

>>377389618
Name one multiplayer FPS in the last five years that was good

>>377377010
Fucking this.

Nyx is literally the most fucking boring out of all the female characters. Her design is generic, she is typical pixie with flashy color hair, and what is defining feature/appeal anyway?

Galena is a crusader chick hellbent on dues vult, Sorlag is an androgynous looking lizard woman cause we as humans aren't supposed to find any qualities to relate; hell we can't distinguish animal genders in our own planet without poking around for genitals, and Slash is your typical rebel punk chick. Nyx is what???

>>377389618
ARMA 3

Because Lawbreakers has been under NDA for a while now.

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>>377375106
So guys, who's your Quake bae?

>>377389052
first off, i'm not the other guy. the game is somewhat close to quake. but it's not quake, and not an arena shooter. what i said was an oversimplification, but nonetheless a representation of characteristics present in this game that are clearly not present in classic quake, and clearly breaking one of the key requirements to being an arena shooter, that being no different attributes or abilities across players off of spawn. my only point is that it's not an arena shooter and is notably different than quake overall, but has some quake elements

Quake Champions is a game with no audience.

It's too similar to Q3A/QL, so the people who have already been playing that shit for 20 years will migrate over because the new game has a larger audience. All the noobs will get absolutely dominated, and quit forever.

And as all the retards quit, there's no longer any incentive for the good players to stay, because QL will have more players, better mechanics, and performance that doesn't shit itself on every map load. Not to mention custom maps, something no F2P game has ever supported, and the lifeblood of a game like this.

I honestly think ID are braindead. They've stuck too close to the roots for new players, but too far away for old players. They honestly should have just made an OW clone, they might have at least found an audience. No new gamer is going to spend months getting good at Quake when they're getting stomped every game. At least in something like CS, sometimes the noob gets a lucky position with his P90 spray.

>>377389816
>Lawbreakers
Now that's a title I haven't heard in a while. I have seen zero hype about this game even though it is suppose to release this year.

>>377389707
Titanfall 2

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>>377377409
>STILL no Crash
No buy

>>377390134
I am not the other guy either, I jojned the thread when you did
>it isn't an arena shooter because they gave people stats, that disqualifies it
I really don't see your logic here.

>>377389768
Nyx is for sexual

>>377390650
Most cheap whores are, yeah

Who exactly is this game for? I cant imagine F2P/casual shooter fans sticking around just to get instantly killed after spawn over and over.

>>377390865
That's why it doesn't have server browser. Braindead retarded are going to be matched with other people who can't aim for shit and going to be happy gibbing other people with abilities and quads. Unsurprisingly, these are the same people who are going to call Nyx op.

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Because I'm too bussy playig it.

>>377385074
>abilities are literally a crutch
You are a fucking moron and the reason that Quake rightfully died in the late 90s.

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>>377391190
how to lower settings like that, ut4 runs like ass on lowest settings for me still, mouse input's all fucked too

>>377391280
>died
>still has vibrant scene
>not a problem to find peple to play

If it's not hot shit in top 3 Twitch channels it doesn't mean it's dead, retarded millenial.

>>377391420
>still has vibrant scene
Sure thing, bud

>>377391336
Thats just an old version of the map.

>>377391336
That is not a settings thing. That is an old video showing the BSP shell with some minor texturing.

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>>377391420
>vibrant scene

>>377375106
Actually is a good game. Feels fun. Always on your toes because your never know when they will use an ability.
Keeps fights interesting.
Gets rid of the faggots that wait till people finish fighting and picks up the free kill because they suffered damage from previous encounter.

Hope they will release more champions so it does not get boring. And keep the game feeling new.

>>377391582
>>377391471
Damn, thanks, i'll at least always have 2k4

>>377390574
well when you really get down to it, in classic quake, stuff like disappearing (nyx, ghost walk) would happen when you picked something up on the map (invisibility), you didn't spawn with the ability to do it. and when you challenge for an item or make a map jump, everyone had to earn the skill and the right to do it. in this game, to do bridge to rail on campgrounds you need to pick one of the right champs and some champs can't do it, but with scalebearer, who cannot do it, in exchange for the speed necessary to make the jump he can instead do a bull charge which changes potential damage output from other players without having to earn that ability by picking it up on the map

>>377391280
>rightfully died in the late 90s
quake and the arena shooter genre was a mainstream esport until the mid 2000s

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>>377390865
>No new gamer is going to spend months getting good at Quake when they're getting stomped every game.
>Instantly killed after spawn over and over.

I'll admit, I'm one of those people. I got into the beta on the first week when it was announced, and a few days later I rage quit since I was getting completely fucking decimated. Haven't played Quake Live since it's release back in 2010 - 2011. I knew that if I was going to get good at Quake again, I was going to have to spend fucking retarded amount of weeks trying to get good and I realized this shit wasn't for me. Who has time for this shit anymore? Played the first week and that was the last time I've played QC, haven't even considered picking it up afterwards in later beta weeks.

Quake was fun when everyone was still learning the ropes, the genre was the bee's knees of the time, and you don't have that community of literal autists who have a little over a decade developing fast reflect and their skill of quick scoping.

>>377379586
No, all characters have the same 3 starting weapon choice.

>>377392260
he wasn't talking about choice, he was talking about players spawning with different weapons than others, which indeed happens

>>377375624
Multiplayer
Online
Battle
Arena

I think it's moba

>>377392434
Yeah and? Some people hate the MG and want a shitty shotgun or nailgun.

>>377392803
So Quake 3 and Live are mobas too.

Reminds me of how /v/ pretends to hate the new Doom, especially before it launched.
Rather pathetic.

>>377392925
Most of the people comlaining have played the beta and their complaints are mostly pretty reasonable. Shills are just blindly praising the game 'cause they need a new fad every week and OW is too old for them now.

>>377392813
well a fresh spawned player with a shit MG versus a fresh spawned player with a shit SG is outclassed right off the bat in a close range battle

>>377392870
Now you're getting it

>>377392803
well actually, in all mobas there are characters with ranged weapons and so they shoot other guys in an arena, so therefore mobas are actually arena shooters

>>377375106

>closed beta
>its actually an open beta

Bethesda can't even into simple marketing. games destined to bomb.

I also tried to copy the 9gb files from my bros PC to mine, because you know being ausfag with garbage internet to save bandwidth. Turns out you can't do that because Bethesdas net client is fucking garbage bloatware shit.

Turned me off completely. It's not Quake either I watched my bro play. It's a mindless f2p skinner box cashgrab.

>>377393092
And the MG guy is at a huge advantage at long range so it's fine.
It's probably gonna be dependent on map and playstyle.

The weapons you start with are cutdown versions of the regular ones anyway, you still need to get those to have decent firepower.

Honestly, complaining about this is like complaying Quake has more than 1 weapon and that's unfair.
Shootmania tried that and floopped super hard.

>>377392219
>Who has time for this shit anymore?
Who has time for trash games like cs? People spend thousands of hours there, yet it's somehow hard to show some dedication and learn arena shooter. Times is not your problem, people just don't want their games to be challenging anymore. They want instant gratification instead of actual challenge and learning process. The skill is being replaced with unlocks and xp. The pleasure of succeeding in learning something is being replaced with dumb "achievements" that every retard can do, or unlocking fucking crates.

>>377393384
as a newly spawned player you're not supposed to have any range advantages over other newly spawned opponents. it's not like a major thing but it's still different than everyone having the mg in quake 3.

>Honestly, complaining about this is like complaying Quake has more than 1 weapon and that's unfair.
i don't see the correlation between the two complaints

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>>377391190
Q:C is IMO more welcoming to newcomers, even without bots. Fat characters have more HP and are thus good choice for low level play (although their hitboxes mitigate that)

In team deathmatch nothing is that serious.

>>377393270
You can but it's a pain in the ass. I copyied my Bethesda.net install directory, it's AppData/Local directory and the Quake Champions registry keys to a friends computer then he started the client and hit Install and it went to 100% immediately. Not sure which one actually did the trick.

>>377375106
I'm amazed they recycled the multiplayer for DOOM and slapped in as its own game and no one is giving them shit for it.
I didn't even make it past the main menu in QC before I just closed it and gave up on it.
>unique abilities
Never dropped something so fast in my life.

>>377395375
You forgot to call it moba.

>only Ranger is free while the rest must be purchased for one day via in-game money or with real money
>ranger has the most 50/50 occasional ability that can lead to death or a frag, not good face to face at all
>basically everyone else have a useful ability that won't kill them
>need 4 rockets to take down beefy characters
>rocket delay
>no classic mode so far but mentionned
>unbalanced matchmaking
>best players are never Rangers because his ability blow harder than duke nukem forever

i'll play it again when classic mode is out, i don't wanna change character because everyone else sounds annoying as shit and Ranger is fucking Ranger.

>>377396015
It's battlequake.

>>377375106

Too busy totem bombing people near launchpads.

>>377396058
his ability is good for getting to an item or weapon quick off spawn. additionally if you set up your teleport before you grab quad damage, you can grab it and then activate the tele, making a quick getaway with quad damage in hand.

>>377395375
it's not that similar to new DOOM.

DOOM
>the only weapon pickups are actually just powerups and have long respawn timers
>players spawn with the main guns through loadouts and are immediately as effective as they can possibly be in terms of firepower outside of quad damage and haste powerups changing their DPS
>movement is basic and limited to running, double jumping, and ledge grabbing, all at a somewhat slow pace

Quake Champions
>all the main guns must be picked up on the map and they are standard weapons, not power weapons
>you spawn pretty ineffective with just a crap starting weapon and must increase your firepower by picking up a weapon on the map
>movement is advanced, incorporating strafejumping and bunnyhopping, and speed is high when these movement tricks are properly performed

both games have armors and powerups to pickup so i'll give you that, although armor in new DOOM was pretty pathetic

>>377396058

What are you talking about? Ranger is one of the best champions in the game with the most useful ability. All around good stats and armour values and high movespeed. You're able to get armour and rail at the same time on Blood Covenant. And if you're worried about his ability not being good face to face at all you can use it to teleport away by firing it to a higher point and then dropping down to a lower point and if your opponent chases you can pop to your orb.

And yes they're aware of the Rocket delay and they're working on it, shit drives me insane to end.

>>377392925
But nu-Doom was absolute dogshit, and anyone who actually enjoyed that embarrassment is a homolord. It had literally nothing in common with the rest of the series.

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>>377389824
Galena

Although doom is the same from the time of 1, since the game is fundamentally built for a single exclusive use, the multiplayer is only existence for a relaxation.