Why are japanese games always generations behind when it

Japanese games focus more on art style than raw graphical power

They can't tell what looks good or not because they're squinting

Graphics are written in English. Very hard to Japanese to understand.

>>377347181
>graphics

>>377347521
This.
They can't read all the new technology updates and papers from siggraph and such

>>377347528
>6 games on western list are glorified movies

>>377347181
Was this just an excuse to post upskirt?

>>377347337
Which is better honestly, who stands around staring at fucking wall textures.

Americucks shovel billions of dollars into grafix, creating the self perpetuating cycle of "realism XD" that is killing the game industry.

A software engineer's salary in Japan in extremely high and on top only people who failed to get into proper business sectors get in video games. All the real talent works in upstanding industries.

>>377347521
>>377347606
Was gonna say they focus on other things more important than gfx but I can see this being the case as well.

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>Western Games
>Anywhere near cutting edge graphics

Are you fucking joking? Jesus how embarrassing

>Andromeda
>Injustice 2
>Fallout 4
>Prey

Leave 2017 to the Japanese, Persona 5 and Nier Automata have shown that SJWs have ruined the West

>>377347181
Because weebs will say any game with a good waifu is a 10/10 so they devote their entire budget to modeling tits and ass.

>>377347629
I think that's the point of the picture. Everything on the left is bland and trying too hard to be realistic.

>>377347931
>killing the game industry.
Go away

>>377348219
Crysis 3, a game released 4 years ago. Looks better than any japanese game today, and probably will remain that way until the next console gen starts.

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>>377348553
>Using Crysis 3 as your best defense

Holy shit just turn off the computer.

>>377348682
>frogposter
>has no argument

Like pottery.

>>377347931
Much like hollywood shovels billions and billions on explosions, over-the-top action, etc because the stories can't hold people's attention for 3h otherwise. And how music HAS to have a 4/4 beat cos a slow love song is "too boring".

>>377348553
Only technically and technical graphics are the least important kind.

>>377348553
Bloodborne looks better than all Western games.

>it's about art style more than graphics!!!
>nip games look like moeshit in 3D

kek

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>>377347181
I think I remember hearing that a lot of the top Japanese engineers and programers left the video game industry from the mid 2000s because they weren't being paid very well.

If you look at the sixth generation games, Japanese games certainly looked better than the competition. Not a lot of western games from 2000-2003 really looked as good as MGS2, Gran Turismo 3, Silent Hill 2 and 3 and REmake etc

Also, it's worth noting Nier Automata targets 60fps, has a lot of enemies on screen and is an open world game. Not a particularly good contender for showcasing graphical fidelity.

>>377347181
japanese developers (and modern western developers too) don't understand graphical budgets

you can only have so much detail rendering at a time, and if you budget all the polys to character models then everything else is going to have to suffer in order for it to run

>>377349018
>What Horizon
>What is Uncharted

I mean sure, those are awful garbage games. But the graphics blow away any jap game released.

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>>377347181
>behind
I'm okay with this.

>>377347181
Probably never *sigh*
I guess we'll just have to do with great design and gameplay *sigh*

>>377347181
Unless you're final fantasy backed by SE, graphics take a backseat compared to gameplay and other things. Graphics are also insanely expensive so there's that.

>>377349415
are you aroused by low textures?

>>377347181
>What is RE7

>>377348413
Not that, anon. "Killing the industry" is a bit hyperbolic but games really should be about gameplay first. You can have a good game that looks like shit but you can't really have a good game that plays like shit. It's interactive entertainment. A prime example imo is UC4. It looks gorgeous but the story is feels drawn out because the gameplay become predictable, repetitive and boring 2/3s in. If I wanted to watch realistic gfx, I'd watch a movie and not play a "cinematic" game that runs in 24fps for "cinematic" feel.

>>377348553
While this is true, you need to remember that most Jap devs don't have the budget western developers have. I mean, I doubt there is a Japanese game to date that even comes close to GTA5 budget. Or even Witcher 3 budget (BotW maybe?).

>>377348105
Yup, things like pure visual novel "gameplay"

>be poor fag
>wanted to play Nier
>decided to pirate it
>installed the game fine
>couldn't put up with the jagged frame rate
>find out there's a community patch
>install patch
>there's an anti piracy block in the patch

fuck me

>>377347181

They dont?

Thats how games fucking look like when you get 60 fps stable on consoles. If you want to blame anyone blame the consoles.

>>377347181
In terms of graphics they seem to favor characters and animation, it's always the environments that look like shit.

>>377347181
Because they're busy creating gameplay you stupid fag.

>>377347181
lets be serious here, western games have better textures and in som cases better lighting but thats fucking it. Most japanese games have animations (not counting facial animations) and gameplay elements which are generations ahead of any western game.

Name one wetern open world game with as many things to do and as many physics and gameplay elemts as Zelda BotW. You simply cant. Instead you get low effort motion capture from low class actors who were rejected by hollywood. Also western devs have no imagination, no good art-style, always going for realism because they lack the magic japanese devs have.

>>377349324
I would disagree and say they know exactly what they are doing, Correct budgeting of available resources means optimising for the things players will actually wanna look at, in this case it isnt some fucking obscure wall in the environment, its the action, the more commonly visited areas of the map, the MC and all the visually interesting shit going on.

Why are weebs such perverts?

On a pure aesthetics sense, I think bloodborne looks the best.
Followed by Bastion.

>better textures

Shit like unreal 2k4 has better textures than most current games.

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>>377350492
What are you on about? VN is a genre with it's specific gameplay, just like, you know, EVERY OTHER GENRE. Are you so young as to never have played a purely text based game. Not every genre needs fast-paced action with explosions out the fucking ears.

>you will never be so autistic that you spend your time zooming in on wall textures that neurotypical people will never even notice

they put all their graphics into dat ass

>>377351570
They just really like girls. Don't you?

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>>377351570
>pervert
It's called connoisseur of the human form, good sir.

>>377352386
female form* you dicklicker

>>377347181
>a generation behind in graphics
>but runs like ass

>>377352503
I was gonna say that but there are gay perverts too.

>>377349232
Man rip Mifune, what a great actor. I just planned to rewatch red beard later today

>>377347747
/v/

Oh no. The walls have a blurry texture.
wtf i hate automata now

Post more bad graphics from Nier

Because 60FPS.

>japanese game
>main character looks good and detailed
>environment and npcs look like a mid 2000s mmo

Why are they all like this?

>>377347181
Because they don´t have to make up for bad gameplay.

>>377347528
when will west make good games? really gets your almonds firing

>>377347181
Because they prioritize the game running well instead of being a "cinematic experience" with frame drops everywhere

>>377350279
Doubtful, Nintendo works on the cheap. Even with how many times BotW was delayed to be a Switch launch title I still doubt it cost as much to make as GTA5. Especially if you count marketing budgets.

>>377353715
Because you'll pass right by the wall and npcs, but you have to look at the main character the whole game.

>>377348384
how the fuck do you show that in a picture? None of you would know which games plays out as a movie or which ones has great gameplay purely from a picture

>>377350830
serves you right faggot

>MGSV
>RE7
>Bloodborne
Wew lad

>>377350830
Should have fucking looked for a version without it then.

>>377354143
Yeah, thought as much. So that's another reason for lesser gfx, OP.
>>377347181

>>377347181
Because Japanese devs don't think make so much "REALISTIC" graphics makes the game automatically good.
They focus on Artstyle making their world look good, instead of trying make realism such a factor (when it's not) which comes to look brown and grey like MOST Western games tend to do.

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Why are western games always generations behind when it comes to gameplay?