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0 new classes 1 new raid! 2 new gun types 3 new subclasses Wow

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0 new classes
1 new raid!
2 new gun types
3 new subclasses

Wow only for a low price of $80
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Oh no, stupid people are going to lose their money!
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>buying Destiny 1
>buying Destiny 2
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>>377339545
Numbers were pitiful before Overwatch was released. Even though they claimed they would support the game for a decade, we all seen this coming. They want to jump on the short gains of a new version, while not promising shit for this version.
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>>377339545
>0 new classes
>1 new raid!
>2 new gun types
>3 new subclasses
>4 new planets (That's it?!)

ftfy
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>>377339909
can i fall for this meme? just this one time? please?
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>>377339949
Pretty sure they said the series would last a decade. Not Destiny 1.

>>377339545
Why do you pay $20 more than anyone else?
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Wait.....so Destiny 2 isn't even a new game? Top fucking kek.
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wait, 1 new raid? is this an add on to the original destiny? like it has all destiny 1 content plus the new content in 2?
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Wow, and I thought about getting into Destiny with 2. What a load of shit. And I know that the game went through a horrible dev cycle, but that's no excuse for the cheapass shit they're pulling here.
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>>377339545
Can a nibba get a fucking SOURCE?
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>>377340012
well its not like I'm going to beat the shit out of you for having shit taste, go ahead.
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>>377340283
>I thought about getting into Destiny with 2
With sequels to games with several expansions, it's always best to start with the final product of the first game.
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>>377340154
nope
its an entirely new game
you cant access any D1 content in D2
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>>377339545
Damn nigga at least until it's a month from release to see what else they divulge, holy shit.
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>>377339545
>caring about Destiny 2 after how shitty Destiny1 was
You must be over 18 to post here.
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>>377340134
>>377340154
It's the same engine modified and sold again. Really fucking lazy coming from the people who made Halo.
>>377340345
Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Daey6qGgLKU&t
Gameplay trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn1dML6RC5w
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Didn't play Destiny 1 so its all new to me
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>>377339545
>didn't buy destiny 1 because I'm not a console pleb
>get everything in the entire base game + all the new sequel content

lmao the only people who are getting shit on are the people who beta tested the game for the master race
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kinda sad how there really is not another new class
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>>377340682
You can't win with sequels. You either make the same game again with barely anything new, or you try and reinvent the wheel and end up alienating your old fans.
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>>377340857
Yeah that's true, and I stand by that statement all the time when sequels come out. But bungie was extremely lazy with this sequel, I hope for Destiny 3 they will actually make it better an not be half-assed. It literally looks like a fucking expansion.
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>>377339545
wait so its more like an expansion rather than a new game?
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>>377339961
>4 new "planets"

try a small city-sized walled off zone. doesn't seem like they learned from their first blunder
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>>377340682
>that blatant denial and fanboyism in the comments

Jesus Christ how many times can gamers fall for this shit
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>>377340682

>Multiple articles about how the content pipeline for Destiny is completely fucked because their tools are the worst
>Same Engine for Destiny 2
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>>377340747
Same. I mean the whole Warrior (Titan), Rogue (Hunter), Mage (Warlock) trinity class system makes sense, but they couldn't think of one more? Maybe they'll have a shit ton of subclasses this time instead of just 2 each and then an extra 1 a year later.
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>>377339545
>No new classes just subclasses
>1 raid
>its a glorified expansion priced for a full game
Seems like I'll do what I did for the original destiny then, which is wait for the Taken king edition to go on sale for peanuts and then play it.
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Kek
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>>377341474
Except trinity only works if there is a tank/healer/dps. There is none of that in Destiny. Everyone is a DPS with a different flavor or more useful ability. The game could have 10 classes and it would all be exactly the fucking same. Just add new subclasses and elemental types
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>>377341474
Could have gone full DnD with a cleric, or Druid or some shit. Add a pet class, or a holy avenger instead of sub-classes that get one unique super and a different melee animation.
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>>377341846
The game is far too catered for casuals for that
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>>377341704
>33 likes
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>>377341930
>What new race did Halo 2 add

Sick false equivalency my dude
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>>377341446
It's honestly pathetic
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>>377341930
>What new race did Halo 2 add?

This really triggered my almonds
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>>377340682
>SJW shit

Wait, what? I only watched a few minutes of the gameplay reveal can someone elaborate on this?
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>>377342138
Playable Elites, and non-playable Brutes & Drones.
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>>377340707
I've played 1k hrs in 1st one. Don't make my mistakes.
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>>377341846
Its a console game and shooter first. Its why Borderlands had 1 ability per character and that was it. BL one made a shitload of money, but they didn't up shit in Borderlands 2. Same shit.
I think you are too into the word "class" when classes in Destiny only matter every other minute. Everyone is just shooting guns at each other 98% of the time.
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>>377342201
>dur it has 4 WHOLE LEVELS WE ARE NOT WORTHY BUNGIE
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did someone seriously expect the subclasses to be different elements? solar, void, and arc remain, but the abilities within them are all different. only whine about this if only 1/3 subclasses for each class have changed. if each option for each class is different, then what's the complaint for?

and did ANYONE expect more than 1 raid at launch? the raid won't be available at day 1 anyways and if we're lucky, it'll take longer to get to a level where u can even start a raid. hope that they release more raids later, some just as free content. it's what the micro-transaction crap should go towards.

aside from that, the pvp is supposedly entirely reworked and none of the locations you visit are the same as the previous game, so as long as they actually try with the story this time and it lasts about as long as your average halo or call of duty, what's the problem? This is an FPS not an MMO. Destiny 1 was not an MMO. judge it by FPS standards. Destiny 1 failed at launch because it didn't even have a decent campaign like most FPS have and the PVP sucked.
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>>377342201
Normie purge NOW
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>>377342221
Skip to 51:05 on the stream >>377340682
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enjoyed D1 but stopped before the first expansion

fuck ill take the bait. my mouse and kb are ready
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>>377339545
> 0 new classes
> 1 new raid
> 2 new gun types
> 3 something's got to give
> 4 something's got to give
> NOOOOOOOOOOW

> LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR

What did anon mean by this?
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>>377340682
>Command Centre attacked.
>Everyone casual about the fact defenses on the last city on Earth are down.
>The guns on the windows dont fire.
>The back up defense strategy relies on Zavala both being there and being quick enough to activate his sheild.

Honestly annoyed me to an unreasonable degree. The colorful city and red tree areas look neat, but nothing else caught my attention.
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>>377342413
>did you really expect bungie to put content in their game?

Get bungie's Dick out of your mouth
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>>377342413
I think they should have added atleast another ability, looks like everyone got 1 more where it should have been 2-3 new ability slots. Titans got an ability to put up a knee high shield to sit behind, Warlocks have some sorta damage boost field.
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>>377342221
An asian woman with dyed purple hair came on stage and talked about toxic online experiences and supporting positive culture or some shit.
That's how they led into guided games, where you can tag along with some shitty clan to play end game content.
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>>377342641
Kek

I miss old youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WPCLda_erI
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>>377339545
And their playerbase is excited for it.

Sad.
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>>377339545
So why isn't this just an expansion pack?
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>>377342552
>2 minutes later
>still dont see it

What? Is the chick talking an sjw? I don't get it.
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>>377342731
I thought the water filled city with Maunsell Forts and a city was pretty neat. That said, I want the whole place to be a singlular zone. Not cut up into 8 chunks of matchmaking and instanced zones. Seeing people in Destiny's worlds was pretty fucking rare
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>>377343062
Keep watching or just read >>377342773
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>crosshair is not centered again
Into the trash it goes
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>>377342773
Was she hot?
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>>377343084
Again it seems the visual design will be the best thing about the game.
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You know fun thing
>all dat PC version "hype" in /vg/
I remember how "PC only" palyers shitting non stop about Destiny here. Hell even ps4/xbox players shitting on this poor Warframe clone with $300000000 marketing budget
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>>377342552
>it's a purple hair chung
>social lead
>starts by qualifying herself by saying she played games with her brothers and lead a guild
>start skipping around
>shes going on about love and respect within the community

when did shit like this become a norm in video games? who the fuck cares about this shit? it's literally not video games during a video game presentation. it's like if /v/ were to present a game and then some autist goes up and starts talking about bug fights under a veil of str vs dex
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>>377343193
>unnaturally colored hair
no
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>>377339545
>4 planets only
>One of the locations on Earth is exactly the same as one that was supposed to come out on Destiny 1
>New guardian supers are completely copies from old ones, check
>Graphics look basically the same
>New planets look a lot like Venus, from Vex to the Guarden, lots of reused textures from Destiny 1
>DLCs planned with content that was cut out from the original game

JUST.
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>>377343707
I'm not going to put my dick in her hair, how's the body?
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>>377339545
>no Steam
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>"Blizzard Launcher"
Dropped. Considered it since I never play any FPS on console, but this makes it a no-go for me.
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>>377339949
The big reason for this version is to reboot the engine. You can't use the excuses shitposters use for splatoon since the reach engine is fucked. That and balance would be impossible unless they nuked all the current armor/weapons again.
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>>377343413
>when did shit like this become a norm in video games?
It's about how games are not "embarrassing" hobby so you can play them without any problems. go and buy buy buy.
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>>377341930
I also wanted trading and ship combat to be a thing. I always get duplicate exotics and I would like to trade some for titan exotics I still haven't unlock or cool legendary shit.
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>How many levels denial are you on?
> Like maybe 5 or 6 my dude
>You are like a little baby, watch this
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>>377339545
Why would anyone fall for the Bungiejew after Destiny 1? It was the shallowest, most obvious cashgrab I'd seen in years.
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>>377341291
Except all the zones are shounding pretty huge.

European dead zone has underground caves, The Farm social space, an abandoned city, and a Cabal military base. Albeit, this will be the largest zone (because they've been working on it for 6 years), but still. Not some small walled off areas anymore.
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>>377345753
>European dead zone has underground caves
>cosmodrone had underground caves
wtf i love destiny 1 now plz face fuck me bungie
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What the fuck did people expect?

This is Destiny we're talking about. You know, that game Bungie slaved away at for years, which Activision then decided to completely butcher and rework less than a year before release; simply because Bungie couldn't meet Activisions DLC demands? They literally sell you huge chunks cut out of the base game as DLC, this still probably has unused Destiny 1 content.
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>game launches with fuck all content
>waah no content
>4 dlc later
>lol the game is good now all i had to do was spend a lot of money
history will repeat itself
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Damn the people in this thread are retarded. Do you really need to resort to lies and exaggeration to shit on a game that isn't even out yet? Why don't you talk about games you like or at least provide valid criticism. I just don't understand why you would take time out of your day to complain about something that doesn't actually have anything to do with you.
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>>377346083
The trailer definitely had reused Destiny 1 assets.
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>>377339545
Source? I haven't followed shit.
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>>377346278
Summer is here.
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>>377346278
you dont even deserve a (you), 377346278
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Don't forget to purchase the season pass goyim!

Two new raids that will be irrelevant when year 2 season pass and dlc drops!
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>>377346379
Explain why I'm wrong.
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>>377346083
$500 MILLION GAME LMAO
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>>377340682
No one who was integral to Halo works at Bungie anymore
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>>377346423
You're wrong because you're implying that people shouldn't say negative things even if it's their opinion. To only have positive criticism is to never have anything improve. If something sucks, we have every right to discuss it, you're just butthurt.
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>>377346423
Destiny is pile of marketing garbage.
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>>377346423
How dare we criticize something that deserves to be criticized
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>>377339949
>Even though they claimed they would support the game for a decade
Enough of this meme. Destiny is a 10 year franchise.
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>>377339545
Destiny has more in common with crack and heroin than it does with other videogames
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>>377346278
>Do you really need to resort to lies and exaggeration to hype up a game that isn't even out yet?

Fanboys and game companies do this all the time, yet I never saw you calling them out on it.
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Are Bungiedrones worse than Blizzdrones and Biodrones?

Why is it always a company that starts with the letter B?
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>>377346949
>Biodrones
You need to live in the present and not in the past.
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>Bungie then: lol don't worry guys, Activision will not fuck without visions for the game or else we will commit corporate suicide
>Bungie now: PRE ORDER TO GET BETA (timed demo) ACCESS DONT FORGET TO BUY OUR SEASON PASS EACH YEAR AND THE MICROTRANSACTIONS FOR EPIC GUARDIAN EMOTES

I really don't know which is worse, Bungie going to Activision or Respawn going to EA. At least Titanfall is a good series, unlike Destiny, but both will likely meet bad fates.
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>>377339545
All with the power of Blizzard behind it for PC Release! Good Goy!
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>>377346125
But don't you see anon? $60 worth of content tastes so much sweeter when you have to pay:
$60 base game
$20 DLC
$20 DLC
$40 expansion
$30 expansion
$170? Jesus.
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>>377346278
I actually agree. But /v/ isn't really used for real discussion of games, thats why we have /vg/ until namefags ruin it.
But I think I might skip out on the initial release if I have other stuff to play. It's just more of the same with improvements. Not really a bad thing, but meh nonetheless.
I'm most interested in the new stuff they added in patrol. But I'm way more cautious about it, given my past hype with public events in the first game, look how that turned out lol.
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>>377347005
They still exist. Andromeda was a powerful cure but the worst cases of cancer survive.
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>>377346949
>Biodrones
>2017
Bungiedrones are not even near to Blizzdrones. Look at Heartstone. This garbage is still alive and popular as fuck.
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wow bungie really died
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One raid is ridiculous.
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>>377346278
>I just don't understand why you would take time out of your day to complain about something that doesn't actually have anything to do with you.
in other words nobody who doesn't like what's on offer should be able to talk about it, since only people who already decided to buy the game are relevant. You don't give a flying fuck about criticism, just discredit anyone who dares to criticize the game with ad hominems. And don't give me the "it's not even out yet" excuse because it sure as fuck doesn't stop people from defending it.
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>>377347005
>>377347191
ME:A clearly shows they're still alive and well. You people need to pay more attention.
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>>377346580
Lying is not criticism.
>3 new subclasses
factually false
>>377342221
>sjw shit
Girl with purple hair talks about matchmaking means the game want you to wear a rainbow and preach trans acceptance, right?
>>377346604
Literally doesn't even mean anything.
>>377339545
Not only is that an assumption, but I saw an SMG, a minigun and grenade launcher in the trailer.

Criticize it. DO criticize it. I'm just telling you not to be retarded about it. Which you are. Go complain about the graphics, that's fine, you can actually see them, but grow up and realize that you need a reason to get angry.
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>>377347225
>one raid AND strikes will likely be 1 boss each
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>>377347172
>the worst cases of cancer survive
I don't have any idea what you think you're talking about.

>>377347281
>a game so bad that they've almost completely closed the doors on a studio proves that they're still alive
Read a book, nigger.
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>>377347215
They really showed Microsoft didn't they?
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>>377339545
>1 new raid!
I don't it, does this mean d2 will have 1 (single) raid or it will feature all shit from d1 plus 1 new raid?
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>>377344682
No way will they ever make trading a option. They know too many people would be willing to buy weapons and armor from other people and they wouldn't get any of that money.
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>>377347005
If the damage control for ME Andromeda showed us anything it's that there are still biodrones out there
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>>377347409
One (1) raid.
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just wait two years for the full version
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>>377347452
>the damage control for ME Andromeda
Haha they closed the doors on the franchise and the people working on it are only working support for other teams, such damage control very epic.
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>>377347347
>drones are the same as the studio

How much time do you spend on Reddit daily?
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>>377346278
So what lies are in the OP exactly? There are no new classes, no new races, a mere 3 subclasses (warlock's fire sword is even a copy of the titan's hammer) and just one raid. It's honestly pretty fucking disappointing.
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>>377347106
>But /v/ isn't really used for real discussion of games, thats why we have /vg/
lmao if you think /vg/ was useful for "real" discussion of games even when it first started and not just a repository of pastebins followed by rp shit and tertiary drama in nearly every general. You retards can't accept dissenting opinions
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>>377347610
Even after it was "finished" Destiny was still shallow as shit. Wide as an ocean as deep as a puddle as the saying goes.
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>>377347632
Not enough, apparently, because I don't have any idea what you're trying to talk about. Where are these biodrones you're so mad at? Go ahead and find them.
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>>377347347
>>377347625

Lurk more, newfag retard. Don't post until you know what things mean.
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>>377344017
reboot the engine.
Nah.. Nothing rebooted whatsoever.
Maybe some fine tuning and minor improvements, but buy and large, it's the same thing.
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>no new races

I thought the leaker said we were getting redeemed fallen? He was right on a lot of other things
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>>377347347
>>377347625
Are you retarded?
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>>377347681
There are definitely more than 3 subclasses and the trailer itself had more than 2 new weapon types. Nobody gave any number on those, so why is OP spouting that?
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>>377347709
Sometimes that can turn out well.
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>>377347754
>>377347807
Doesn't sound like you've got anything left to say, so I guess you're giving up.
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>>377347347
>>377347625
Get out fucking newfag
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>$60 main game
>$20 DLC1
>$20 DLC2
>$40 DLC3
>$30 DLC4
>Total cost for Day 1 buyers: $170
>Also the game contains microtransactions

Meanwhile
>Buy the entire collection on sale for $35 on PSN

Activision and Bungie should burn.
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>>377347891
Do you not know what a Biodrone is? Or you are a Biodrone trying to convince us they're all dead in an attempt to hide your cancer.
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>>377342201
I've been telling you guys for a while this is the #1 problem with the destiny community. They are filled with autists who shout out any criticism of the game as "toxic" and "problematic". These people take bungie criticism personally.
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>>377347978
>Do you not know what a Biodrone is?
Bioware fanboy, it's not hard. Where are they? Where's that damage control you keep telling me about? The only damage control I see is this:
>>377347918
>>377347807
>>377347754
>>377347632
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>>377347297
Why should anyone criticize it! There's no reason to get angry if you're not going to buy the game.

All the so called criticism against Destiny 2 are factually false assumptions and lies. Prove me wrong. You can't because you're retarded
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>>377348057
>he wasn't in ME:A threads

Stop fucking posting you limpdicked retarded fucking waterheaded moron.
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>>377341930
>What new race did Halo 2 add?
LITERALLY THE FUCKING BRUTES FUCK THIS FUCKING CUNT
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>>377348073
I literally say its fine to criticize it in that post. You're reading what you wanna read.
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>>377347625
Are you fucking dense? He's talking about biodrones not the studio itself
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>>377339909

I got the complete collection thing as a gift and it was fun blowing through all of the story missions in two weeks.
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>>377348115
So you can't find it?
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>>377348057
So were you just not here for the weeks before Andromeda released and the threads in the immediate aftermath? They were out in full force, both here and on the standard cancer sites eg youtube.
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>>377347772
What was wrong with the engine in the first place? What held D1 back were the previous generation of consoles and the clunkiness of the engine editor. This is a modified version of that engine, which leads me to believe that they've made improvements to their creation process.
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>>377347973
I feel like I've seen this shitpost before.
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>>377339545
It's not coming to steam? then where the fuck is it going to
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>>377348178
>before Andromeda
What does that have to do with anything?
>They were out in full force
Ready for you to show me. Do epin oldfags like yourself not know about burden of proof?
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I'm posting it ironically. WF is probably worse than destiny, but I never played destiny
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>>377348256
battlenet. Yes really.
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>>377348256
Battle.net.
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>>377347973
Businessmans ruin everything
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>>377348306
no... what? why
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>>377348267
Ah so you're just a troll. Congrats brah you got my (you)s.
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>>377347610
But that's what I did for Destiny 1. Two years after Destiny 2 releases the game will be replaced by another sequel. It's literally in their contract.
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>>377347704
I just said the destiny generals turned to shit, and just shared some of my own complaints of the first game. I don't really see what you are trying to get at?
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>>377347794
All the interesting stuff gets cut for the expansions, the main game is sold on hype and Bungie's name alone.
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>>377348236
>shitpost
How is the truth a shitpost?
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>>377348359
It's too bad I didn't get you to prove yourself right. I know you couldn't, but you could have tried.
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>>377348441
>ignore the $80 version at launch that had both DLCs
Right out of the gate you're $20 over.
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>Complain incessantly that your engine is shit due to PS3/360 support being baked in
>Complain that you can't make content because the engine is shit
>Don't change engine for second game
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>>377348057
>there were never any biodrones who damage control for the latest mass effect! You're the ones on damage control!
OK you are definitely retarded.
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>>377348278
>WF is probably worse than destiny
It's not. Destiny is $500 mil budget game you know?
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>>377346879
Underrated
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>>377348019
The saddest part is that it happens on /v/ all the time now. You can literally see it happening in this very thread.
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>>377339545
and? me and friends still buying it and having fun while you get triggered and spend all day on /v/ blogging about your shit opinions
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>>377348651
It can't possibly have more wasted potential than WF.
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>>377348728
Telling the difference between shills, bungiedrones and trolls pretending to be shills and bungiedrones is difficult though.
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>>377348651
Actually, those are misleading numbers. That's apparently for the whole franchise over the next 10 years.
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>>377348564
Modified engine
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>>377348728
Well because this guy >>377346879 is actually right. It's like gachashit
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>>377348193
>defending bungie this hard
>implying i said there was something wrong with the engine
wew lad.
modified != reboot
here's your (You), shill.
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>>377348564
imagine if they decide to make a 360/PS3 version
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>>377348278
As someone who got Destiny as a gift, here's what Destiny is;

>MC is Master Chief, but with a class you choose
>343 Guilty Spark is your guide all game, aka annoying shitty robot
>Aliens are ALL grunts, except for bosses which are bullet sponges with no real design
>Some bosses do have mechanics, but they're either piss easy or bullshit RNG instakills
>MMO mechanics in an FPS, aka terrible formulas combined
>PvP revolves around the absolute best stats and gear, not skill like in Halo
>You need an active subscription with ps+ or xbox live to play with friends. No couch coop, no partying with friends otherwise. You don't even see your friends (Tested multiple times before realizing the requirement for subs)

It's really bad. Warframe at least tries to be unique, and it paid off despite the blatant requirement for p2w content to be good. Dudebro games ruin fun.
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>>377348872
I remember when destiny was revealed in 2013 and during one of their live streams they were talking about how good their engine was and how easy it was to create things. What happened?
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desnity is probably the most generic video game I have ever seen
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>>377348991
then why is it the most sold/loved games for the past 4 years
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>>377348149
>I literally say its fine to criticize it in that post
While in the very same breath discrediting everyone who criticizes it as liars who have nothing to do with the game. I'm only reading what you said. The game isn't out yet so you can't criticize it, and if you do you're retarded and making factually false assumptions.
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>>377349025
It's not.
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>>377348991
That's the problem with it. It has none of the magic that halo had but somehow people care about it
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>>377348267
>muh burden of proof
Lurk moar newfag
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>>377348960
>>Some bosses do have mechanics, but they're either piss easy or bullshit RNG instakills
>>PvP revolves around the absolute best stats and gear, not skill like in Halo

You should at least pretend you played it
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>>377348019
Yeah i'd have to say the Destiny community is by far the most ignorant, stupid, and mob-following console community i've seen ever. They are are always in lala-land and seem to blame nearly everything for being the way it is after besides their selves. They complain so much about a weapon or class and when it gets nerfed to the ground because of 90% of the community not being able to grow up they go "well why'd you listen to the 90% Bungie? Us 10% knew that it was fine". Having a good argument with anyone on the forums is nearly impossible because they will just throw a temper tantrum and say "muted". I wish I never played past year 1.
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>>377348943
No need to be so confrontational. The way you worded your comment I replied to made it seem like a reboot of the engine was necessary. I never even said that it was a reboot. I'm not that other anon.
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>>377348278
Warframe is worse than Destiny IMO, but microtransactions in a game you pay for is undefendable. I'm hoping Bungie takes the Blizzard route for cosmetics at worst.
They won't make us pay for shaders and emotes, r-right?
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>Titan gets a new super
>Warlocks get a reskinned Titan super
>Hunters literally just get the same super
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>>377348497
Congrats on proving biodrones no longer exist and they never did damage control for ME Andromeda when it released

Oh wait youre just baiting, have a (you)
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>>377349162
I remember that most Destiny community are okay using Xim4 in consoles. They even use it on streams
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>>377348820
Ironic shilling is still shilling
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>>377348985
Marketing most likely. You don't want to spoil the batch by saying all the wrong things. Most of what people found out behind the scenes was that there was a bunch of internal conflict and debate over direction. We didn't even find out about the engine issues through official channels, but through an anonymous source that spoke to Kotaku.
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>Why won't they listen to me! they are RIPPING THEM OFF! Stop falling for their lies and laziness! I am a savior!


No, you're just a miserable retard who can't stand people who enjoy things regardless of your shitty taste
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>Say hello to your new subclasses
Which one, /v/?
someone please make a better very, I used a shitty collage maker
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>>377349053
That is a lack of reading comprehension. How hard is it to understand that there is valid and invalid criticism? Those people literally made shit up, it's not even an opinion, they dropped numbers that were never confirmed or weren't even realistic to begin with. You say the DLC practice is bad, you say the graphics are bad, you say the dialogue is bad, your opinion is valid because those details were revealed and can be judged. You say "THEY ONLY GOT 2 NEW GUNS GUYS" when that just the number of new guns they saw in literally the first gameplay trailer, then you're bullshiting and your criticism is invalid.
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Why do you guys not appreciate this game?
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>>377347973
$170 split up over 2 years is $7 a month. That's cheaper than most MMOs I've played.
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>>377349582
*better version, sorry
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>>377349285
So far that's how it is with the real cash shop. All emotes and funny horns.
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>>377349025
>sold
Sure
>loved
No, you fucking faggot
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actiblizzard is an awful company for this very reason, I'm not sure why anyone had faith.
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See? Told you they don't give a fuck about criticism

>>377349557
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>>377348991
I know man, it's even more generic than Call of Duty. Nothing stands out at all.
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>>377349746
I forgot about the "Muh criticism!" card

It's hilarious when shitposters and overall retards get defensive in order to act like they are right
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>>377349025
no one loves destiny. it's just okay game.
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>>377349160
From a logical standpoint everything is really simple designed it's just player fault which makes everything hard. Ex: Golgoroth
And PvP for a large set of the time IS having the best weapons or gear fitting the "meta".
Year 1: Bladedancer, snipers, and 3 Exotic Handcannons
Year 2: Sunsinger and High Rate Pulse Rifles/ Handcannons such as Eyasuluna or Hawksaw/Grasp of Malok
Year 3/Present: Striker/Voidwalker and Handcannons/sidearms such as Wormwood and more Eyas
Example, if you were to bring out a Red Death in any year besides 1 you'd get annihilated by a 3 headshot LEGENDARY handcannon that's easy af to get. I hope Bungie puts up a PTR for the PC version so they can see the impact of any nerfs or buffs before the official game
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>>377348278
$140 alot of money to you or something? Thats just two days of work for 2 years of entertainment.
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>>377348768
Good goy!
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>>377349801
CoD at least trying to show something "new" every year. Even that WW2 trailer looks like kino.
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>>377349557
>Stop! This is SERIOUS! You shouldn't waste your money on that video game, but on another video game! I take video games very seriously!
member when people played video games for fun and not to brag about how thrifty they are?
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>>377348991
Destiny is like... a more generic Borderlands the Presequel with hover bikes instead of space buggies and more online aspects
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>>377349727
Oh man I can't stop playing it. Space ranger is exactly what turns me on about space action games. Super glad exploration is going to be more rewarding. I still just goof around on patrol a few times a week.
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>>377346083
>which Activision then decided to completely butcher and rework less than a year before release; simply because Bungie couldn't meet Activisions DLC demands
wasn't their reason for leaving MS that they wanted to do their own thing and not be ruled over?
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>>377349906
pure bait
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>bungie will be acquired by activision after destiny 3
It all starts with a 10-year unbreakable ironclad contract.
What were they thinking, literally making a deal with the devil?
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>>377339545

It looks like there are three abilities now, which is cool. Destiny 1 really lacked an activated ability that wasn't a grenade or super.

I'm down for more Destiny shooting, especially with even more powers.
I probably won't love the game but I will still probably play it for 500 hours because I am a sucker for WoW-style raiding but also love the excellent shooting mechanics.
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Destiny came with my PS4. Put about six or so hours into it before trading it in for Bloodborne
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Ya see y'all, we gotta push our expectations so low that when it gets retarded we will all get pleasantly surprised
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If you don't like Destiny you're not true gamer
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>>377350009

The raids are the thing that sets it apart.
I've been saying this for ages but it's still very true:
>Borderlands is Diablo with guns
>Destiny is WoW with guns
>both have a reduced scope as a result of adding guns
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>>377350268
Disgusting
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>>377350109
> we're at the peak of our popularity and Activision will pay us more to bring the game we want to make to more players rather than rehash halo forever
Probably
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Destiny is the kind of game that makes me hate modern videogames.

You have a fantastic setting, great gameplay and an enjoyable loot system and then you go and fuck it up by having just enough content to reach max level and do a raid once.

I would buy this game if there was actually a good amount of game there, instead it will be the same situation as Destiny 1. Release a shell of a game first then release 5 overpriced DLCs to get the worthwhile experience. This shit makes me so mad.
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>>377339545

Reading a lot of this thread it is evident most of the people complaining have never even played Destiny before or never played it post Taken King.

The game will be significantly better if they go to route they have been going since TTK.
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>>377350592
>enjoyable loot system

Stopped reading there
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>>377342773
>That's how they led into guided games, where you can tag along with some shitty clan to play end game content.

So Bungie is now advocating leeching.
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>>377339545

bahahahaha, niga please this one like the first will sell like hotcakes

destiny is a good game
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>>377350592
>>377350663
The gear and weapons are good, but holy fuck you are really retarded if you think engrams are a good system
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>>377350592
But they're going to do two ttk style dlcs instead? Most people hated the "episodic" first two chapters but ttk sold like crazy.
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>>377350268
I'm happy about the 3rd ability slot. It should make the classes feel a bit more differentiated, although it comes at the cost of extremely unique supers.
I was hoping there would be just a little bit more to make the classes feel different. I think I heard about mobility differences today, though.
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>>377350607
Can you blame them? Why would people who bought the base game and didn't like it spend a stupid amount of money on a game they already dislike?
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>>377350663
>>377350736
Engrams are fine since they were fixed.
On launch, when they could 'downgrade', they were fucking shitballs terrible.
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>>377350735
>destiny is a good game
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>>377350663
I was going to reply with this exact post
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>>377339545

Thats fair right? These glasses are expensive so...
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>>377350719
Better than LFR
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>>377349610
>How hard is it to understand that there is valid and invalid criticism?

You invalidated all criticism based on the game not being out yet and the assumption that people who are doing the critiquing have no interest in the game to begin with. Don't blame reading comprehension to try and backpedal on your own words.

But I forgot, only Destiny fans deal in facts and any criticism of Destiny 2 is purely opinion. I AM SILLY is what everyone who criticizes Destiny 2 sounds like. Every one of your posts can be summed up as "you're bullshiting and your criticism is invalid"
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>>377350784
No, its still shit. A purple from a random mob in a cave being the same as a purple from max light level strikes is fucking dumb.
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>>377350607
>WHY DIDNT YOU SPEND $170 TO PLAY THE GOOD PART

Why the destinyfags are retarded
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>>377340682
>It's the same engine modified and sold again. Really fucking lazy coming from the people who made Halo.

Didn't all those dudes get fired one by one years ago?
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>>377349836
>>377349557
Congrats on proving anon right almost immediately
>>377348019
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>>377339545
answer me this, and be honest with yourself; if you didnt know this was destiny 2, would you know it was a sequel and not another expansion?
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>>377350805

it's fuckin halo with mmo elements, that shit will always be good, it's just a joy to play
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>>377350925
I'm 99% sure that no one who worked on Halo is left at Bungie. Shit they even fired Marty for some reason.
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>>377340134
thanks for beta testing with your paid online, console babbies.
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>>377350771
Not him, but I don't blame people who feel that way about Destiny at all, Bungie earned it with that dumbass launch. But I do blame the people who go out of their way to complain about it like nothing ever changed 3 years later.
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>>377350771

I really enjoy Destiny and I agree when it first came out it was pretty bad. As it stands today, the game is a lot of fun with a lot of stuff to do and they fixed many of the issues that plagued the initial release. Seeing this trailer gives me a lot of hope because they are essentially re-booting the game and adding shit that should have been in Destiny 1.
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>>377339545
>3 niggers front and centre

W E W L A D
They're literally pulling EVERY Jewish trick
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>>377345753
>social space
So every zone will be 4 person instances again, with the hub zones capping out at 16?

B O R I N G
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>>377349836
Pot calling the kettle a nigger
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>>377350835
No I am not. I'm not calling out people who are shitting on the game for good reasons. Everyone complaining about the DLC in this thread is justified. You are straight up delusional if you think you're one of them, though.
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Destiny 1.5 will sell like hotcakes and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>377350890

The game before TTK was pretty bad, but it has gotten significantly better since then. The reception of destiny when it was released helped push Bungie to get their asses in gear and make the game they promised and I commend them for putting in that effort even if it should have been better from the start.

I think the problem ultimately with destiny 1 was Bungie was not entirely sure where they wanted their game to go or what they wanted to be. I am confident now they have figured it out.
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>>377349836
>if I put muh in front criticism it invalidates it entirely!

muh Destiny is fun
muh 'Everyone who says it's bad is a shitposter
Muh retarded defense of Destiny while accusing you of being defensive
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>>377351078

I didn't realize standing in the shade transformed white dudes into niggers.
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>>377350997
I would've assumed it's another expansion.

Looks like exactly the same game as 1.
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>>377351247

lots of people play overwatch even though the pvp in that game is like halo for babbys, and there's no pve
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>>377351374
overwatch plays nothing like halo
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>>377351482

fine it's tf2 for babbys, but you obviously got the point
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>>377351374
>lots of people play overwatch even though the pvp in that game is like halo for babbys

I hope this is bait
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I forgot how destiny 1 was with the pvp. did you have to play the pve in order to get good weapons for the pvp? wondering if i can just avoid the pve entirely and play only the pvp.
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>>377351201
>No I am not. I'm not calling out people who are shitting on the game for good reasons.

You came into this thread and called the reasons people are criticizing Destiny illegitimate. Your own posts calls criticism unjustified because the game isn't out yet.

>You are straight up delusional if you think you're one of them, though.
How would you know? We're anonymous dipshit. You have no idea if I criticized their DLC model or not. You're a delusional fuck who backpeddeled on your own words
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>>377351482
>tfw would buy MCC on pc for full price instantly
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What are the new subclasses?
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>>377351374
>mfw overwatch and battlefront sold 30 million copies with 4 hours of content

literally league of legends, just make fun multiplayer games and you make bank
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>>377351729
staff dude, sword dude and captain america
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>>377351701
Yes. The balanced weapon STATS but exotic effects still were present along with added bonus effects from upgrades.
In general, to be top level you needed a good exotic with good rolls. Anything else could function but was a big handicap.
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>>377341846
One of D&D's biggest problem's is trying to squeezing a whole class out of a concept narrow enough to be a sub-class though.
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>>377351726
wasnt there a unreleased halo pc game that got leaked or something?
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>>377351798

Isn't the shield thing just a new ability for Defender Titans?
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>>377351701

> I forgot how destiny was with pvp

then you're obviously a shitter, who probably got shrekt a couple of times and never really played it

I hope you haven't been posting opinions about destiny in this thread
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>>377351701

Destiny PVP outside of trials and Iron banner balances all weapons regardless of level or light. You could just spend your entire time in the crucible and you will reach max level and a pretty high Light Level. You can also get exotics and some decent guns in the crucible which can give you a slight edge (but not in terms of damage output).
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>>377351038
Same. It basically seems like its the actual finished product of Destiny. So long as they don't go full on jew with the $20 "expansions" again and stick to major $30-40 shit like TTK, I'm pretty pumped.
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>>377351798
Wait what. The Titans are getting a second shield dude, the hunters are getting a second lightning weapon and the warlocks are getting fire sword on their already existing fire subclass?
Fucking disappointing. Did they not introduce a new element?
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>>377342413
I expected additional subclasses, not replaced ones. Possibly with new elements.
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>>377351705
>You came into this thread and called the reasons people are criticizing Destiny illegitimate. Your own posts calls criticism unjustified because the game isn't out yet.
There were a lot of unjustified made up shit thrown around in the thread, so yeah, I said the thread was full of retards.
>How would you know?
Because you are arbitrarily siding with shitposters, that's how.
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>>377351853

Exotics always have th same perks, you don't need a exotic with a good roll, just a good roll which gets you the correct exotic.
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>>377351729
I shit you not, one of the new supers is just a solar version of boltcaster
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>>377351247
>Candy Crush will sell like hotcakes and there's nothing you can do about it

Now we know Candy Crush is one of the best most fun games ever made
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>is coming on PC
Hype?
BUT
>Blizzard
>Battle net

and right in the trash can
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>>377351915
not him but I would literally dust you inside 30 seconds, so sit down and shut up scrubster
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>>377351726
>tfw literally bought an xbox one for mcc and reach singleplayer even though i have Halo 1&2 on pc
£140 used pretty good deal
For some reason they gave me reach for free on the xbox live store
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Didn't play the first one. Will definitely get this. Fight me.
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>>377352123
I use battle.net, so it doesn't bother me. But I don't quite get why they did that. I am pretty sure it would sell better on steam, no matter what.
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>>377352016
Armor had random stats. But they were easy to reroll and rolls were really on super important on guns so I still don't know what he's talking about.
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>>377346278
Here are your two shekels! Spend them wisely!
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>>377339545
>Bought Destiny 1 for $10 in a best buy.
>Shit controls
>Menu cursor controlled by analog stick

>See Destiny 2 coming out for PC
>Finally I can play the game without aids.
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>>377352135

> 30 seconds

lmao niga you got sniped 5 seconds after game start what the fuck are you doing posting in here
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>>377351951
we need a toxic element as a representation of the Destiny community
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>>377352186

If destiny 2 just improves on Destiny 1's current state it will be really good.
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>>377352237
I just don't wanna support blizzard
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>>377352281
can you not??? ugh...
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>>377352237
Because now when they want to sell some sort of DLC they don't need to explain why it's never on sale.
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>>377352278
you're a punk dive into the nearest trash can, your garbage
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>>377346949
Don't forget about Bethesbabbies.
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>>377352237

it is pretty simple really,

1. They don't give steam 30% of all their sheckles

and

2. They are going to get thousands of people to download battle.net and that will get some people to buy overwatch and other games.
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i want the game but ffs idk if i want to go through all that money again on the sequel
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>>377352237
I feel like they might be trying to drag in blizzdrones, cuz loot. It might actually work because the game has a pretty strong stigma, and steam users might be wary of it while blizzdrones might go "If Blizzard approves it, I will love it."
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>>377352423

> shadesteps behind you
> kills you
> dances
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>>377351981
I think it would be better to replace them all and start with new armor instead of just releasing all the same exotic armor to boost skills in the exact same way or similar way

That said, they basically reskinned the Arc Blade for Hunters and the Dawnblade for Warlocks look really similar to the Titan hammer shit. Floating in the air throwing AOE damage.
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Why does it use battle.net instead of bungie's own thing on pc?
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Do we know if Destiny 2 will be ran through Blizzard servers? Or is it just using the Battlenet client? Is there a difference?
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>>377351915
I played a match but was disoriented due to gamepad aiming, 30 fps, and low FOV, so I didn't play again, mostly cause I can't aim at all on analog sticks. I mostly just play pvp nowadays on PC FPS games so now I'm interested in destiny 2 because uncapped framerate and adjustable FOV are confirmed. and that was my first post in the thread autist

>>377352242
>>377352016
>>377351916
>>377351853
cool, thanks for the info

>>377352548
it is using bungie servers
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>>377352481
Might do the opposite. Used to play WoW a lot and a good amount of my friends are Blizzdrones, they mostly laugh at destiny.
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>>377352519
*blinks out of the way*
*blink shotguns you at the point blank range*

you're a 100 years too early to come at me kid
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>>377352653
*panic fist of havoc*
OwO get stomped shitter
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>>377352630
It's honestly hard to say. Destiny's situation is kinda unique.
>>
After this anmouncement I've come to accept that Destiny isn't for me. It's aimed at the general Blizzard audience.
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>>377349025
Sales and community are not indicative of quality
See: League of Legends
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>>377352009
You told people they should talk about games they like and asked why they would take time out of their day to complain about a game that they supposedly have nothing to do with. You never acknowledged that any criticism towards the game was valid until after you were called out for trying to discredit them with excuses like the "game isn't even out yet" and calling the criticism lies without actually refuting any of it.

>Because you are arbitrarily siding with shitposters
aka people who are criticizing the game. Thanks for proving my point by calling them shitposters, you arbitrary dipshit.
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>>377352791
at the very beginning the guy basically admitted it was taylor made for reddit
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>>377352908

I would hope a free game sells well
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>>377352791
It's not for everyone. To like Destiny, you need to like loot, and you need to be able to at least tolerate a grind. This clearly isn't changing anytime soon.
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Is there online matchmaking finally?
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>>377348278
Upgraded it for you
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>>377352967

>le reddit

Why don't you explain how, nothing in Destiny 1 is "Reddit" at all.
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>>377339545
>2 new gun types
I saw at least four in that trailer.
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>>377353110
why don't you watch the reveal again
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>>377353104

>3 year old game content is cheaper than when someone bought it when it came out

I am shocked anon
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>>377353110
did I say 1? he said it at the announcement earlier
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>>377352769

> instakills you with a gucci bowshot from across the map

nothing pesonal
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>>377348278
Warframe is an unbalanced and buggy piece of shit, you get what you pay for I guess
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>>377353179

What how Luke Smith just name dropped reddit? He said that because that is where a shit ton of people hooked up to find groups before Destiny lfg. There is nothing "reddit" about Destiny and i don't think you even know anything about the game or what even would make a game "reddit".
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>>377353232
Yeah just like all of the Call of Duty games... or what about those Nintendo games... or like how I can just buy Legion Expansion and play all of WoW...
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>>377352921
I can explain so many times that you're reading what you want to read. I pointed out lies by shitposters, you claim I shit on everyone else too. That's it. I started with a general sweeping statement that obviously wasn't meant to be taken as literally everyone in the thread being including, but you are taking it that way. Since then, I've explained that that isn't what I meant. If you gonna keep arguing that I'm doing something that I'm not, then there is no way to argue back. I even sided with some of the people talking shit on the game. And yes, screaming SJW at every person with dyed hair and making false claims to slander something for no particular reason is shitposting.
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>>377353380
The game isn't "Reddit" itself, but the destiny subreddit is incredibly active and the community over there is very vocal and actually have a say in the matter (as in, CMs and other bungie employees are active over there)
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I had fun with the first game. Gunplay was satisfying and it had pretty stuff to look at. But everything aside from that was horribly barebones. If they remedy that then I'll be happy with it after a sale/price drop.
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>>377353487
One of the original reddit mods works for bungie. Of course no one bats a fucking eye at this.
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>>377353380
it's the biggest meme game going at the moment, they may as well have called it destireddit
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>>377339545
I feel like Activision made them keep the amount of content small in each release so it would just become the normal thing people expect.

Promise nothing, deliver less.
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>>377352526
I didn't expect them to be exactly the same, but I did expect to keep those combinations of grenade/melee/jump/super with all the other options possibly changing.
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>>377353641
Was it Deej? he's a community manager for bungie now. PR and shit
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>>377353641
cozmo, right?
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>>377339545
Whatever, at least it's on PC now so all my normie friends might pick it up (bonus points for bnet).

That said I can't see it running on KBM without fundamental changes.
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>>377353784
Don't really see why not. Obviously it'll make some stuff easier but I wouldn't say it would break the game.
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I have something to spend my millions of WoW gold on
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>>377348960
I haven't played Warframe in over a year because I got frustrated that I didn't like any of my 8 frames as much as I liked Excalibur. What is the p2w shit? I bought a bit of plat before but I've earned probably 4 times as much just by trading. I can't think of any genuine p2w advantage, especially with Plat being so fucking easy to come by by the time where those expensive mods would matter.
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>>377343413

>discussing the gaming community surrounding a multi-player only gaming title isn't gaming related

How fucking stupid is this board as a whole and are you in particular?
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>>377353953
Destiny is SLOW
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>>377353770
Yup.

https://np.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3dedvl/you_say_goodbye_and_i_say_hello/

Games journalism is corrupt as fuck. Since this guy is a douchebag hipster california loser in the circle no one will call out the ethics on this.
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>>377354145
what the fuck are you gibbering about we already know reddit sucks
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>>377354145
Them taking him on as a community manager may be dumb, but corrupt? I dunno about that.
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>>377353443
>you claim I shit on everyone else too. That's it. I started with a general sweeping statement that obviously wasn't meant to be taken as literally everyone in the thread
No, just everyone who is criticizing the game
>I even sided with some of the people talking shit on the game.
By telling them the game isn't out yet and asking why would they talk shit on a game that has nothing to do with them

You can only claim reading comprehension so many times because you don't actually have an argument. You said people were lying and called them shitposters, but you didn't actually prove they were lies. You broadly claimed the critique of Destiny 2 were false claims made to slander it for no particular reason, because that's all criticism of Destiny is to you. Of course you literally exagerate the SJW posts ITT to discredit criticism against Destiny when in reality posts about SJW make up a small fraction of posts criticizing the game ITT.

I'm done with you. Destiny fanboys are mentally ill cretins who are incapable of comprehending basic logic or reason. and you're too stupid to realize it so I'm going to leave you here to continue contradicting yourself and pretending like you have a real argument, you pedantic nitwit
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>>377354145
>call out the ethics on this
I might be dumb, can someone explain what is particularly wrong with this hire?
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>>377353380
To be honest all the advertising for it is pretty reddit so he kinda has a point am I right?
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>>377354591

No one thinks it is unethical besides some /v/ people who hate destiny anyway.
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>>377354367
>create reddit page for game
>for all you know he gave control to bungie to delete stuff or was ordered to promote the game and ban dissent
>gets rewarded with a job

Not suspicious.
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>>377354580
>No, just everyone who is criticizing the game
Okay, you know what? Stopped reading right there. A full dozen times I told you that's not true. I'm done.
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>>377354591
Guy creates Destiny reddit page and eventually gets a job at Bungie. The potential that he was helping them out with this page and thus getting rewarded is there.
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>>377352276
>Shit controls
?
>PC gamer
Oh never mind you're just retarded.
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>>377352546
Lots of people already using Bnet, perfect place to advertise.
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>>377348278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUN32LFCRZU
this is old tho
also i can't really tell because quality =/= quantity right ?
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>>377352445
Those don't exist, it's just retarded normalfags who keep buying their games.
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Regardless of anything the worst part of this game is going to be the community. I was obessed with the first for a while but I gave up when i turned in to nothing but grouping up ti cheese bosses and farm medciocre gear just to do it all again. The "story" never fucking matters and it's all smoke and mirrors as you play instance hopper five thousand and stare at load screens.

Like so many releases these days it could be amazing if they focused on the god damn game play over everything else.
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>>377354678
I feel like it's kind of hard to delete posts that were not justifiably deleted without people knowing about it. Other companies that did that were caught red-handing and put in the spotlight, I know Bioware got in trouble for that and I don't even care about all that.
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>>377355257
>I feel like it's kind of hard to delete posts that were not justifiably deleted
How so?
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>>377348278
Warframe is better than destiny by a mile imo.
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>>377355257
Never stopped mods on Reddit before
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>>377355749
>>377355438
Well I'm not saying the wouldn't do it, but I am saying that if they did do it, I can't really imagine that passing under the radar. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong, it's just how I feel about it.
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>>377355590
lol no
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>>377339545
Activision has there new COD it seems
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