NEVER EVER THEY SAID http://store.steampowered.com/app/5 71260

I don't even like fighting games because I'm so shit at them but Angel and Mai are tempting me.

>>377323596
Can't I just emulate it on PCSX2?

or is their a GC port?

>>377323596
Hella expensive for a dreamcast port.

>>377323596
I'll buy it but it sucks desu when will we get a real kof game again

>>377323881
>>377324180
Wait, what meme is this? The game was released just last year.

KoFXIV
>Story Mode (that is just arcade)
>Trials
>Time Attack
>Survival

SFV
>Story
>Character Stories
>Survival
>trials

The game straight up has as much single player as SFV, why would you buy this shit?

>>377324437
it looks like a ps2 game
that's the joke

>>377324594
54 characters
Better gameplay
Better OST

Closed beta when?

>no crossplay

People have to be literally stupid to buy this, KOF is already dead on consoles, imagine how dead ti'll on PC.

>>377324785
>54 characters
That look awful and animate terribly

>Better gameplay
oh wow I wonder who will safe poke into the same max mode combo first. Almost as entertaining as unga bunga V

>Better OST
Nope, on of the weakest KoF osts desu

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I hope someone pulls the models. I want to see Yuri get fucked in the ass

>>377323596
but kof13 was on PC so why would you think 14 wouldnt be on the PC?

the game isnt that good anyways.its already pretty dead on consoles. imagine how its gonna be on the PC.

>>377323596
please don't fuck up this one.

>>377324437
Because it looks atrocious and SNK has no business working with 3D evidently.

>>377323596
Shoutouts to the 100 who will shill it, the 20 who will actually buy it and the 3 who will be playing it online after a week.

>>377325089
>XIV's models

no thanks

>>377324594
Why would you ever buy a fighting game for single player content?

>>377325303
Cause this will have no online presence, well at launch

>>377325303
>Why would you ever buy a fighting game for single player content?
Why not? Why would you buy a RTS game without single player content?

One of the reason why SFV failed was because of the lack of the single player gameplay.
Casual people who enjoy fighting games but they don't play against other players but they feel good when they beat the CPU.

Time to add another game to the list of "Stuff we can no longer talk about on /v/".

>>377325405
What about your friends? Your local scene? Or discord. Most fighting games that aren't the big ones are played in private matches within the community. Even the PS4 version is like that

>>377325574
>Why not?

Why would you? Fighting the ai is not fun. RTS is much more fun single player due to variance in map and objective design.

>$70 canadabux for the base game
>when its a year old and commonly goes on sale for $20

No thanks, I'll stick with tekken

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>>377325262
I'll take it if it means more Kula

>>377325624
>What about your friends?
Don't play KoF

>Your local scene?
Same

>Or discord
Not joining some faggy discord to try and get BRs to play, when half the time no one will. No other game requires that much effort but dead anime stuff.

>>377324886
closed beta access if you pre-order.
can anyone confirm if it's immediate access?

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>>377323596
>Steam Edition
Karate when?

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>>377325816
>Fighting the ai is not fun.
Maybe for you.
For a lot of people it is fun.
There is nothing bad if you add content to the casual crowd.

Again, every time you see something related to SFV this is one of the most common complains about the game.

>>377326123
>not joining some faggy discord


Whatever then.

>>377325089
P U F F Y

>>377326839
It gets worse or better depending on your taste

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=59300975

>>377327063
I'll still do my best to fap to it.

>>377323596
Is cross play enabled?

>>377323596
>DLC characters not included
Yeah, they can fuck off.

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>that price

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>>377327272

>>377323881
>Can I emulate this PS4/PC/Arcade Game on a PS2 or a GC/Wii Emulator?
No, you can't.

>>377327063
fuck man, every time I follow a pixiv link i get stuck in a hole of saving shit then opening the related images for ages

I must have saved like 30 yuri images now and I still have 13 tabs left

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>>377328039
I feel your pain

>>377323596
no ones going to buy this shit op

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>now I can pretend to play KoFXIV
Based SNK

>>377327410
>tfw bought phsycial PS4 version for $15 the other day

>>377326234
yes

people are playing right now

>>377328039
Finally made it out the other end
I saved 80 images

>>377323596
I'm going to buy cheat day 1. I use cheat on CS:Go for over 3 years and never got VAC'd
It's not that expensive, 15 pounds every 3 months

>>377325586
I actually miss when these games were 2d and you could tell them apart. Now this shit, Street fighter, Marvel vs Capcom all look like the same garbage.

>>377324594
Nice bait. 50 characters and classic arcade mode
SFV has no arcade mode, the story mode is broken, the difficulty is a joke and there is nothing decent about offline play

>>377328039
>tfw got an addon to save all the images in certain tabs in one direction and close them automatically
Saves me a fuckton of time desu. Still end up opening way too many tabs sometimes and having to restart my browser.

>>377329338
>the story mode is broken

There you go again, using terms that you dont understand

People that defend SFV after "patches" are simply retarded
the patches don't fix anything other than online. However there is still input lag, lack of characters, expensive season pass and they had to relunch a beta on PSN 1 week ago (again!) to make the online less shit.

>>377329338
>the difficulty is a joke and there is nothing decent about offline play
same as xiv then

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15 June? I'd swear it was scheduled for August.

>>377324594
Because I don't hate SFV for the lack of single player content, I hate it because of the boring, simplistic character and gameplay.

>>377325135
Apparently the models are pretty good but the shaders are awful, hopefully it will get better eventually.

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>>377323596
>69 bucks for the complete game
>which is one year old
>and already looks like a PS2 game
They have completely lost their mind.

If you buy this, you are the very definition of a drone.

>>377327272
hardly any fighting game will do this

>>377326123
>Not having friends

Sad.

>>377329517
>However there is still input lag,
You know it now has the same as kof14 right?

>>377323596
>buying fighting games on pc
can't wait for it to have 40 players in 2 weeks

>>377325059
>oh wow I wonder who will safe poke into the same max mode combo first.
Now I completely agree this is terrible and the worst flaw of the game but the 2.0 patch nerfed this significantly

The more serious issue is how much the game shits on traditional KoF pressure and scrubby playstyles are way more effective than they should be such as constantly rolling out of pressure or 90% of normals being anti airs/safe pokes you can convert to a 50% meaning mashing is very hard to stop and you are constantly at risk of losing a round to a random lucky hit

>>377329586
>>377329571

>>377329587

Does >>377329586 look like a ps2 game to you?

>>377329789
Yes.

Get your fucking eyes checked.

>One update for the PC version causes a driver with the name "Capcom.sys", a rootkit, to be installed into the system that allows applications to run arbitrary code with kernel-level permissions. On newer processors, it disables supervisor mode execution prevention (a processor capability that is used to prevent low privilege code like applications from running instructions with higher level privileges) and then re-enables supervisor mode execution prevention when the application is done running kernel-level code

They had to remove the DRM because not even Denuvo go as far as to add a rootkit to prevent piracy. Rootkit is cancer and is treated as malware even by windows fags.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160926/06081435627/capcom-releases-drm-street-fighter-5-promptly-rolls-it-back-when-it-screws-legitimate-customers.shtml

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>>377329789
this does

All you showed is they are too incompetent to use their models well

>>377329697
Consoles have the exact same problem, dumbass.

>>377329673
>SFV is now 2~4 frames of input lag
citation needed.

>>377329908
>B-but Capcom!
You so-called people are pathetic.

>>377325090
I've found the online pretty active and I'm a European, you can get a lobby filled pretty easily and there's occasional online tournaments i've participated in

I'm quite surprised by how well it's lasted actually

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>A modder creates a shader that makes the game look like a moving Shinkiro peice.

>>377330052
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sSJFoxneq4

>>377329960
There has been a graphics update patch since then and that is also a beta screenshot with outdated shaders anyway

>>377323596
>That price
Do they realize their target audience cant afford that?

>>377330052
>2~4 frames
>He thinks kof14 is that low

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>>377330164
um.....that's the patched version

>>377329697
This is how fighting games are, even the popular games. If you want to play good players, you're never going to consistently have more than 40 online at a given time. The main difference with niche games like KoF is that the 40 good players will be all there is, while SF and similar will have hundreds of casuals you have to filter through who will know one setup and maybe a bnb if you're lucky who are just wastes of time for anyone good at the game. If you are into KoF or whatever it really doesn't pose an issue

t. Someone who played KoF13 steam edition online frequently for years as well as offline in various majors

>>377330164
That's how the game looks after the update

>>377329960
They don't really know how to work in 3D yet. They have come back from death, cut them some slack. Now this >>377329908 is complete incompetence. They basically made a free to use backdoor to the player's PC.

>>377330239
It's actually making me doubt about it.

>>377330164
>>377330369
>>377329960
HAHAHAHAHAHA SNKEKS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>377330369
>>377330405
Whoops, my bad

>>377330162
Do you understand that what you showed me is display lag and not input lag, right?
How are you steam users so dumb and so retarded? this kind of info is even available on wikipedia
Input lag is not measured by any LCD/LED display you fucking idiot.
Display lag (GtG for instance) on the other hand is.

>>377330420
>They don't really know how to work in 3D yet
So are incompetent and under-qualified yet want full price?

> cut them some slack
Why? You SNcucks are the biggest bitches, they are a company selling a product for chink overlords

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>A recent security patch released this month, MS15-097 Vulnerabilities in Microsoft Graphics Component Could Allow Remote Code Execution, breaks computer games that rely on the DRM system Safedisc on Microsoft's Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 operating system.
https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/MS15-097

JUST CLICK UPDATE, IT'S SAFER. JUST ACCEPT STEAM NEW TERMS. JUST INSTALL THE LATEST DENUVO

>>377330515
Read the title retard that's testing the input lag you can see him pressing the button in the video.

>>377323596
>box LITERALLY says "PlayStation 4 CONSOLE Exclusive"
>NEVER THEY SAID

Let's talk about Red Dead Redemption 2.

Honestly, I really wanted this, but they waited too long.

My limited money is going to Tekken.

The DLC characters are still paid DLC on PC? Pfft.

>$60
>doesn't include all the game's DLC
No thanks. I'll wait for the inevitable Humble Bundle after it sells like hot garbage.

It has some of the issues SFV has where it focused too much on narrowing the skill gap between beginners and experienced players that the game has become much more shallow, but not nearly to the degree SFV did

>>377330578
>So are incompetent and under-qualified yet want full price?
I'm only defending them as creators and artists. The price is a different thing and I won't defend it.

>You SNcucks
I'm yet to play any SNK game outside of SamSho V.

>>377330734
I watched the video
>>377330734
>testing the input lag you can see him pressing the button in the video
This is called display lag you fucking retard. To measure input lag you need to use a CRT and a lighting device that measures ms input

>>377330878
Do you ever care if they make another one?

>>377330854
They literally came out like a month ago

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>their models will finally be available for SFM

What a time to be alive

>>377328347

What program (if it is one) is this?

>>377330928
>I'm only defending them as creators and artists
What do you do this in every thread? Don't be too mean /v/ they are trying their best!

You aren't defending them as either you are making excuses for a business

>I'm yet to play any SNK
sure

>>377331073
filename.
I already deleted like 5 gigas of duplicate porn

>>377330961
Yes just so the visuals might not be ps2-tier, but it's their own fault for being greedy.

>SNK makes KoFXIII
>WOOOW, IT'S TOO DIFFICULT FOR MY TINY STREET FIGHTER BRAIN

>SNK makes KoFXIV
>WOOOOOOW, IT LOOKS LIKE PS2, LEL

What would it take for you SNK haters to stop hating? Seems like SNK is the only developer that catches flak for every tiny thing.

here we fucking go a thread is going to be ruined because another group can't stand it when people pay attention to something else for more than a second

>>377331069
some of them have already been ripped

>>377331069
Their models have been available a lot of time ago, who knows how they were ripped tho.

>>377331243
They know it's a superior game and the fact it was a PS4 exclusive made /v/eddit very angry.
That's why the criticism is on the game's graphics not gameplay or characters.

>>377330943
Seeing as you are an idiot just linking this is easier. This is the input lag for the games
https://displaylag.com/video-game-input-lag-database/

Hasn't been updated for post patch SFV

>>377331119
Modelers,animators and programmers have nothing to do with the actual business. They are artists and constructors. I'm not telling you to buy the game, just to respect the effort of the workers.

>>377331243
Didn't XIII have infinites and touch of dead comos everywhere?

>>377331232

Ah right I saw the filename but I thought it was just being quirky. Thanks lad, I've been using doublekiller pro but sometimes it can be unreliable.

>>377331354
If they test input lag using LCD(regardless if it's TN or IPS) they should be considered as reddit tier and you shouldn't take them seriously
Their SFV or KoF XIV tests are irrelevant for many reasons, from the method of test to the fact they didn't analyze KoF final release.

>>377331432
>have nothing to do with the actual business
Nigger they are employees who created the product, they have everything to do with it. If what you said was the case then there would be no issue with insults

> respect the effort of the workers.
Again, do you do this in every thread? Someone might have tried hard with every product

>>377331554
>Their SFV or KoF XIV tests are irrelevant
So seeing as that is where the 8 frame meme originates from, you have no issue with that

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>>377330492
In general the game looks far better after the update but there are some cases where it honestly looks worse and creepy, especially in win screens.

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>>377331548
No problem anon

Double-dip?

>>377331682
I never claimed SFV had 8 frames of input. In fact I haven't seen any good test but it seems the accurate answer is 5 or 6 frames.

>>377331432
>Didn't XIII have infinites and touch of dead combos everywhere?

It did, but I unless it's your personal experience, I don't see how that matters. People are okay with touch of death in MvC, and those combos last even longer than KoFXIII ones do.

>>377323596
Doesn't matter how good the gameplay is, the FGC will not care about KoF unless the following perfect storm is created:
>the current SF is garbage
>KoF has better graphics than the current SF.
>KoF has better gameplay than the current SF.

For the first time since 1991, SNK had a chance to overtake. But even with SFV being trash, they chose to use a shitty graphics engine, relegating themselves to the background. People like the supposed fg freak Aris would rather stream Injustice than KoF. Three reasons: money, popularity, graphics.

>>377330047
not nearly to the extent of pc, dipshit. the vast majority of people play fighting games on console.

>people on steam forums complain about the price

i dont get this there is always a large group of people complaining about price for something on steam even if it's like 20 dollars

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>>377323596

Nobody said it's going to be on PS4 forever as far as I recall considering all those kof games on Steam.

>>377325574
>One of the reason why SFV failed was because of the lack of the single player gameplay.
This is true but if you're going to talk about SFV's failure then you should represent it in its incarnation where it actually failed, vanilla.
>Character Stories
>Survival
And that's ignoring how character stories are literally 3 fights and there's no regular vs AI option, which KOF supports.
The comparison you're making is like talking about SFxT v.2013 instead of vanilla.

SFV has far bigger issues but if you're gonna mention its SP failures then do it honestly.

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>tfw too stupid for tekken
>have to play these latest jank 2d fighters

>>377323596
>Tekken 7, this and Crash N.Sane all come out in the same month.

Welp there goes my paycheck.

>>377323596

>£45

Even Tekken 7 is cheaper

>>377331589
>hey have everything to do with it
They are the bottom of the corporative tree and have nothing to do with marketing, pricing or distribution. Do you hate soldiers because you don't like the deployment of troops in some country or judges because you don't like your national legislation?

>Again, do you do this in every thread?
Of course, I stay up all day and all night so I don't miss any.

>>377331859
> People are okay with touch of death in MvC, and those combos last even longer than KoFXIII ones do.
I mean, a lot of people hat MvC too.

>>377331958
>For the first time since 1991, SNK had a chance to overtake.
SNK has no money. They could use the money to buy artist fags to create 3D models or make a good fighting game with a low budget.

>>377331823
It's the generally accepted answer since after the whole 8 frames debacle capcom reps claimed it was reduced about two frames, there still havent been any conclusive tests though.

If its true then that makes the game pretty acceptable but jeez, it's still not great.

>>377331859
>People are okay with touch of death in MvC
They're really not unless they're diehard marvelchimps.

Even top players hate the series' ToDs

>>377324968
>KOF is already dead on consoles

Another online warrior. Dead = no locals, no tournies. Dead =/= no one plays online, you scrub.

>>377329737
I agree with Max Mode. But most players can't even do those combos to begin with anyway. Watching top players, you'll see it a lot, yes.

>>377332212
>marketing, pricing or distribution.
Which was not the original complaint >>377329960 The shit they actually made is but I guess that isn't their fault cause they tried they are new BE NICE! Cause reasons

>Do you hate soldiers
If the soldiers were meant to save someone but shot him in the face yes, they fucked up no matter what excuse you make

>Of course
At least you are consistent

Why is it always when a game gets a PC port that there's like consolewars threads initially and then a week or so later nobody fucking remembers the game anymore?

>>377325059
Honestly I'd rather watch hop CD into karate loop xiii than jive, it's that fucking braindead and uninteresting.

>>377332809
It symbolizes the life and death of fighting games on PC.

>>377332287
Unreal Engine 4 is either cheap or free. Look it up. They just wanted to use their own engine. Problem is, lighting, cloth physics, and all else sucks. I have the game and I like it. But truth is: the world doesn't give a fuck if SNK has money or not. People aren't here to feel sorry for them, and you shouldn't either. It's a competitive market, they gotta be competitive.

http://www.pcgamer.com/unreal-engine-4-is-now-free/

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>>377332809
Because it's cool to shitpost.

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>>377324704
>it looks like a ps2 game

But PS2 games look good. I'd be happy if they kept this level of detail and just made the games better.

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This thread is lacking Angel

>>377332809
Because they see an opportunity to shitpost and take it, ruining any discussion that could've been among the PC players and console players who'd also like to talk about a game they enjoy. Why even bother making the thread if its just going to be kept alive as a corpse surrounded by shitposters?

>>377333006
The fact that KoF is not popular has some great advantages. Less westerns playing games less shit the community is
That's the sad truth. I don't even feel sorry for them, I was just describing the reality of small jap companies such as SNK

>>377333006
The cloth physics are good though.

Its 100% the lighting.

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>>377323596
>FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY

I couldn't breathe

>>377331432
>Didn't XIII have infinites and touch of dead comos everywhere?
One practical infinite that about a dozen players in the world could do a more than 3 or 4 reps of and 90%ish for maxed meter (5 bars) and full HD which doesn't really happen. You did get a lot of high damage combos due to HD mode though. 70% was pretty standard for 2 bars and full HD, though generally you'll see one HD a match, usually on anchor, occasionally two. It wasn't a broken game in the sense you're implying at all and held up very well competitively.

This game is really ugly as a sin.

>>377333202
But it isn't that good, mediocre at best entry

Meanwhile GG, KI and Tekken have their best looking entries that are incredibly solid gameplay wise

>>377332679
>Which was not the original complaint
No, because that's about how the price tag has nothing to do with the workers. The artists involved don't want a certain price and they don't even have a word about it.

> BE NICE! Cause reasons
It's not about being nice. It's about being respectful. They are a struggling studio taking a risk using a technlogy they lack experience with which probably they had to use for the lack of funds for 2D animation or an executive choice based on the fear of 2D not being succesful in a market almost completely dominated by 3D animation.

>If the soldiers were meant to save someone but shot him in the face yes, they fucked up no matter what excuse you make
That has nothing to do with my question, read it completely.

>KOFXIV
Caramba!

>>377323596
It will probably be a shitty port like DOA5 because japs can´t PC, but I will still buy it as long as I can play it without buying a PS4.

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>>377333484
>Not being wholesome

Sweet, can't wait for the nude mods

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>>377333551
>GG, KI and Tekken have their best looking entries that are incredibly solid gameplay wise
>GG Xrd and KI are incredibly solid gameplay wise
Yes, YRC and Danger Time are great and fair mechanics and Xrd isn't a straight downgrade from AC in the gameplay department.

I'm not even going to comment on KI, what's your next fantastic gameplay fighter, injustice 2?

I'll give you Tekken though

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>>377323596
HE HATES IT

>>377333818
>I'm not even going to comment on KI
Probably because you don't actually know anything about it I'd wager and all you can do is parrot /fgg/ shitposting

nude

mods

>>377333990
Right back at you

>>377333585
>because that's about how the price tag has nothing to do with the workers
It has to do with the product they made. They knew they were making a retail game.

>They are a struggling studio
Not my problem, they are not my friend or something I need to protect. They are a Chinese company looking to make money by buying a brand and using their IPs with minimal amount of old staff back.

>taking a risk using a technlogy they lack experience with
3D graphics are not a risk, that is industry standard. They don't meet industry standard. When I business does not reach standards it fails.

>they had to use for the lack of funds for 2D animation
See that would actually be a risk, not industry standard something different.

Your argument is they used 3D graphics so be nice it is hard

>That has nothing to do with my question
I pointed out what the real point was. The soldiers failed, the devs failed.

>>377334075
>using their IPs with minimal amount of old staff back.
Development on 14 started before that takeover and it brought with it no significant changes to the already existing dev team

>>377334042
I actually play KI you faggot.
>Western piggu cannot make fighting game
>muh rps combos
>da wimminz is ugly

Please go on, tell me why KI is not a solid fighting game from a gameplay perspective.

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>>377333585
Actual footage of SNK devs

Will you please help them out?

Everyday these poor devs go hungry only paid $1 a day

Your donation of 1 preorder could help save a life

>>377333818
I sure hope your SF pic was put there ironically.

>>377334207
XIV was actually made with a lot of ex fatal fury staff afaik

>>377334278
Combos are braindead, fullscreen safe extension moves out the ass into huge damage is braindead, rolling dice to see if your combo actually counts is braindead, '''''''''''''''neutral''''''''''''''' is NRS tier

I will admit I am not an expert on the game because I determined the game was ass from both playing it and watching high level gameplay and so didn't invest a lot of time into it, so I could be wrong on this, but I don't think so. Given your previous comments I'm more inclined to think you have only a surface level understanding similar to what your comment on Xrd suggested and at that level you get a lot of games like this seeming alright instead of totally retarded.

>>377334297
Yes it was, it's just a funny picture of ken looking retarded

>shitposting in the ff xiv thread
>shitposting in the kof xiv thread

i guess i can't be happy today

>>377333585
>hey are a struggling studio taking a risk using a technlogy they lack experience with which probably they had to use for the lack of funds for 2D animation or an executive choice based on the fear of 2D not being succesful in a market almost completely dominated by 3D animation.

There is no reason to use Unreal engine 4 when it's cheaper, don't defend their retarded decision

>>377334885
other than you have to learn how to use it properly or it's going to look dumb as shit

do you think installing unreal engine 4 gives you automatic know-how or something?

>>377334075
>They knew they were making a retail game.
And they worked and keep working to try and make it as good as they can.

>Not my problem, they are not my friend or something I need to protect.
Well unlike you I do care about the art and the medium and again, I'm not asking to protect them but just respect them.

>3D graphics are not a risk
It is a risk when your team lacks experience on it.

>I pointed out what the real point was. The soldiers failed, the devs failed.
Again, you didn't read. The question is, imagine you don't support the deployment of troops in Syria. Do you hate the soldiers because of that? The deployment may have been a bad decision or even an unethical one, but the soldiers have nothing to do with it.

>>377334290
I'm not asking you to buy anything or pay for anything. Just not to insult creators.

>>377325059
>weakest OST
>not 2001, 2002, 2003, XII, Neowave
It's like you're not even trying.

>>377332951
Braindead rushdown is still braindead and uninteresting to watch. Actually, games that are mostly rushdown are very boring to watch.

>/v/ talking about fighting games
lmao

>>377332002
Yeah don't reply to me unless your contributing to this thread

>>377323596
WE

>>377334621
>fullscreen safe extension moves out the ass into huge damage is braindead
You are not playing KI clearly.
>MUH RPS
As is mentioned every time another retard brings it up, combo breaking is not RPS, rolling dice, or random
Treating combo breaks as random will get you locked out consistently, counter broken and hit for 80%
Combo breaking is not random it is a mind game and you are not penalized for EVER landing a combo and even at every stage in the combo your opponent is always at the mercy of your actions, there is no "good" answer when being comboed, all you do is try to mitigate it.
>I will admit I am not an expert on the game because I determined the game was ass from both playing it and watching high level gameplay and so didn't invest a lot of time into it
Yeah, so what you're saying is you don't actually play the game and are just regurgitating /fgg/ shitposting?

I didn't say shit about Xrd because I don't like anime games, the only one I really like is Melty so my opinions on the subgenre are really irrelevant.

>>377335036
>It is a risk when your team lacks experience on it.
it's less of a risk than sprites which aren't as scalable or as easy to mass edit

when you're working with a model all you have to do is retexture and adjust the uv map as appropriate and fix your shaders and that will affect things at a more universal level, this is one interpretation of a project's _scalability_

sprites have to literally be redrawn, especially if you resample them, because during a resample ...actually, this should be common sense for nerds, why am i explaining this?

>>377335084
XIV isn't that rushdown oriented though.
Because of safe pokes into max versatile defensive characters are the best.

Cept leona because her OS was ridiculous.

>>377335036
>It is a risk when your team lacks experience on it.
I dunno, the last time they went 2d they went fucking bankrupt.

That sounds a lot more risky to try again.

>>377335036
>just respect them.
why?

Sell me on KoF XIV. I'm not new to fighting games.

>>377335752
theres a demo on ps4 if you got one

>>377335490
I was talking about XIII.

>>377335135
>Yeah don't reply to me unless your contributing to this thread
The fuck are you talking about? Don't post for someone else just for shitposting.

Fuck off

>>377335752
it sucks, play 98 or 2k2 instead

>>377335036
>It is a risk when your team lacks experience on it.
Isn't that just stupidity?

Risks are not inherently positive or good, and this isn't like it is a creative risk to make a really out there game just someone attempting to use 3D

It is like someone risking to make a cake when they don't know how, I'm not going to applaud them for making burnt slime

>>377335838
I kinda suspected that but I thought it might need to be made clear because some people seem to think XIV is all leona all the time.

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>>377323728
>I suck at fighting game community
>but Angel and Mai doe
Literally this.

>>377335026
>other than you have to learn how to use it properly or it's going to look dumb as shit

Nigga, that shit is incredibly easy to learn why the fuck do you think tons of devs use it? It's far mor straight forward than the bullshit they tried

>>377335809
I don't. I'm asking because it's coming out on Steam.

>>377335938
>play an even deader game
People always hate on newer fighitng games, usually not for very good reasons.

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>>377324437
see if you can spot the problem in this image

>>377336285
98 da bes.
XIV is better than 2k2 fucking prove me wrong.

>>377336504
I don't know. I'm the one asking about the game.

>>377334278
>land a hit in neutral
>have to play rock-paper-scissors to see if I do damage

>>377336309
I know the PS2 joke is funny but Andy has better lighting than any of those characters and his model is weird. It's a more sleek design than that old ass game but at the same time the style is a bit simplistic and boring.

>>377336576
It was an open challenge.

>>377335481
It's more expesive but the course of the project is more predictable. You are already seeing what the results of such risk were.

>>377335706
For starters any moral person deserves respect. Also, creating is not easy and failing is a natural part of the way. Althought on handisght it was foolish to expect such thing from the community of "n00b", "uninstall" and now "kys".

>>377335957
Well, 3D is cheaper to produce and seems to be the de facto technology in the industry, also >>377335601 So they probably felt forced to go down that route instead of their already known creative process. Also respect is not praise.


Anyway I don't care nearly as much as to continue with this. Good bye and (maybe) see you in KoF to whoever is going to get it.

>>377336729
>It's more expesive but the course of the project is more predictable.
the financial risk coupled with the time and effort required to meet the scale desired is not worth it

you just want them to slave 20 hours a day on sprites again just so you can gawk at "beautiful sprites"

sorry, but go watch a disney movie instead if you want aesthetics

>>377336673
I'm glad you can understand the joke, but it's pointless to debunk it, since the point is that KoF XIV looked HORRIBLE when they first revealed it

right now I think it doesn't look bad, as it's been tweaked since

>>377336729
>3D is cheaper
less of a risk then

>also >>377335601
So less risky

>So they probably felt forced to go down that route
So not a creative or risky decision but one of money


So it was a less risky choice incentivised by money not creativity.

>>377336635
No, you landed that hit and got that damage.

You cant even break openers so any poke xx special is unbreakable.

>KI mentioned
King KIfag here.
>>377335310 is correct.

why are fighting game companies so retarded? releasing everything at the same time every time

>>377337172
This, was going to put time into Bacon tits but not with Tekken a day later

>>377326234
yes, the developer just post it in the forum.
im downloading right now, hype as fuck

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>>377336195
>I suck at fighting game community

>>377331963
i found k,kula, iori, shingo and kensou

>>377336195
I'm part of the fighting game community.
Where's my succ?

>>377335994
Cool.

I was watching competitive XIII and XIV matches side by side for nostalgia sake and I really don't miss XIII.

>>377336504
>XIV is better than 2k2
Damn right.

>>377335752
Top 5 best KOF ever.
Among the best 2D fighters right now.
It hits a nice sweetspot between SF and GG.

>>377335752
pretty shit >>377329737

>>377324594
It's not SFV so people don't need to look for reasons to hate it by pretending they play fighting games but care about single player.

>>377337460
F
G
C
nigguh

lol all the players are on ps4. fighting games are dead on steam

>>377338281
It is basically SFV for hipsters

>>377330101
you dont know how mods work do you

>>377338384
PC KoF being such a success was the entire reason they decided to make XIV

>>377331432
>They are artists and constructors
Obviously not very good ones

>>377338485
Nope, common misquote from a bad article

They just said PC and mobile did well

>>377338648
UMMMM!?!?! They are using 3D GRAPHICS

>>377329737
>shits on traditional KoF pressure
>90% of normals being anti airs/safe pokes
Fine by me.

>you can convert to a 50%
That's just a high-damage game.

>meaning mashing is very hard to stop and you are constantly at risk of losing a round to a random lucky hit
People complaining about this just needs to git gudder.

>>377338281
You pretty much nailed it. Morons were outraged at the lack of a story mode on SF5's launch, as if that sorta shit was ever a staple in fighting games.

Any actual fighting game player would've realized that the lack of an ARCADE MODE was the real problem.

>>377335752
It plays more like old SF than SF5 does.

>>377338768
>wanting to play against the AI
c'mon now

>>377337769
>It hits a nice sweetspot between SF and GG
I like Xrd but I've never been a huge fan of anime fighters.
KoF seems somewhat similar to Darkstalkers but with longer combos. Am I close?
I love Darkstalkers

>>377339006
Imagine if the only thing you could do at the old arcade shops was to wait for another guy to come up so you could play some Street Fighter. Or play training mode by yourself.

Yeah.

>>377339030
Vampire Savior is more faster/rushdown-oriented than KOF.

Combos may be longer (depending on which game), but not anime long.

>>377339449
if only there was a way to find other players in a matter of seconds, without having to leave my home, all the while I could be practicing the game in practice mode, or alt tab to something else while I wait these seconds

come back to 2017, anon

>>377339030
A little?
KOF is really it's own game though, highly ground based but still has tons of movement options and strong universal mechanics.
Just download 98 and give it a gander.

My secret wish is that SNK, indies, ArcSys, Namco and Western fighters team up and get Capcom players to stop playing unga fighter v and mahvel, and usher in a new golden age of fighting games free from capcom's claws.

I think mahvel will fail at least. Or at least wont meet disneys expectations

>>377339538
>>377339619
Thanks, buds.

>>377339632
>please make people stop enjoying what I don't like
Literal autism.

>>377339593
>to find other players in a matter of seconds
If only.

They could've inserted a classic game mode that was always present in every single damn fighting game since the dawn of the genre, and pleased both casual players and experienced ones who were interested in killing time playing the CPU. Said Arcade Mode could have a revolutionary feature called "Fight Request" where you could play the CPU while waiting for online matchmaking to happen.

They failed to do this. The backlash was so huge it lasted to this day and tainted the name of the game forever. It wasn't the 8 frames or bugged lobbies at launch that did it. The lack of an Arcade Mode was the real culprit.

I like the fucking game and that's precisely the reason why it annoys the shit outta me that Capcom was so incredibly out of touch to have done this. And that some players insist on defending it.

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I miss the pretzel motion

>>377340074
>implying capcbros enjoy playing their games
Have you seen eventhubs? 90% of the articles and comments are just shitting on Capcom games, while ignoring everything else.

>>377340113
I'd find players in under a minute, and I never gave 2 shits about single player except for unlocking shit to use in the multiplayer. I even download those mobile games for I/MKX/I2 to get the crossplat costumes. I agree, however, that they could just have thrown the laziest arcade mode possible and people wouldn't be able to whine about it, but it still embarasses me that anyone would even play those.

>>377340298
>eventhubs
Come on, now.
Truth is, most people who play it enjoy the game. Everyone knows it has major issues, but that doesn't stop them from enjoying it. All you can do is keep playing it and hope that does issues are resolved.
If you don't like the game, then you can shitpost about it like people on eventhubs, that's fine. Here's a secret people like shitposting

i want Yuri to sit on my face!

>>377336285
98 and 2k2 will have more people playing them online after this game is out a month, don't kid yourself

Why does Rock need to be in game when Terry, Geese, and Alice existed already?

>>377340735
You'd be surprised how dedicated the XIII community is on steam. I find matches easily every day.

The PC fightan community is small, but it's almost all core. In the end, PC and consoles have just about the same number of core fans that stick with the game past the first month.

>>377341515
Because KOF already allowed Garou characters in when they let B. Jenet, Gato and Tizoc join, and it was only a matter of time before Rock would join.

>>377329737
>The more serious issue is how much the game shits on traditional KoF pressure
traditional? based on which "traditional" kof?

>mashing is very hard to stop
even as a bad player myself, no, it is not

>>377335752
SNK's best attempt at netplay to date. Not great, but playable. Max mode fits pretty well and it honestly feels like back in KoF 94/95 with max mode in that you can do some serious damage. They changed Blowback so now it does a wall bounce, so there's a hint of 2001 gameplay as well, but then most characters have their KoF 13 movesets so not exactly same. It really does feel like they tried to take little bits of the non-tag KoF games from the beginning to the latest. It's a new chapter in their lore and the new characters are pretty interesting for what they're worth.
It's a 6/10 game and the PS4 version is like 10 bucks. The steam games have history of having dogshit netplay, though, so you might wanna wait on that.

>>377335752
They've been patching this game since it came out a year and half ago, and probably will be patching for a while in future, for free no less. Namco is really the only other company that would hand out this many patches for free when it comes to fighters. They acknowledge their fuckups when people complain, and they do what they can to try to fix them.

>>377336504
I like the 2k2 UM, I feel like it had the best presentation of the whole series. It's just really pleasant to play.

>>377342319
>The steam games have history of having dogshit netplay, though, so you might wanna wait on that.
XIII on steam had hands down the best netplay out of all the versions right out of the box and 98 an 02 are great too as long as you tweak the input delay just right, what the fuck are you on?

>>377342827
>XIII on steam had hands down the best netplay out of all the versions right out of the box
bullshit. I couldn't play dudes from Mexico and I live in USA. Like, I couldn't actually get matches going at all.

>>377343012
Not the game's fault you live the potato life.

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>tfw you want to play this game but your connection is fucking abysmal

It hurts.

>>377343126
fuk u potato life chose me

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>120 reais

>>377343012
Tell pedro to stop downloading his mariachi music when playing online, then. Or get a real internet connection. Your anecdotal evidence has nothing on a vast majority of owners of both the steam version and one of the console versions, including pro players like Juicebox all agreeing that netplay on the Steam version is the best one, and the only one worth even bothering with.

>>377343364
I have 10 mbps internet, it's good for literally everything else but official SNK games. I get zero lags on Killer Instinct and Xrd. Fucking SNK cocksuckers I swear, god forbid you have anyone criticize any one thing on your favorite game. It's a problem when I can run everything on Fightcade perfectly, you know, SNK GAMES, but not on a playstation.

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>>377343658
>I get zero lags on Killer Instinct and Xrd.
maybe you're bad and don't notice? idk, seems like a terminal case of "doesn't work on MY machine".

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>>377323596
That price though... why?

This is Guilty Gear Revelator all over again.

Xrd Sign and KOF XIII came out almost a year after their console versions at great prices with all their DLCs included and sold well.

Why have these games come out a year later at full prices and top it off with the DLCs being separate? Do both companies have the same guy in charge of sales? Fire that fucker.

>>377339632
if they aren't giving out lots of money then they wont care

>>377344037
The games werent meant to be cheap.

SIGN and KOFXIII were just mere afterthoughts.

But REV and KOFXIV are still fully active, specially since XIV's DLC is still recent for consoles and theres gonna be more, and REV2 is just around the corner.

That is why they arent giving the DLC this time.

Also, how much does XIV cost in dollars anyway?

The XIV dx pack is gonna cost 550peso with the discount (25 or so dollars)

>>377343012
I'm from Chile and I almost never had any problem with XIII online.

>>377323596
nice falseflag

this game was so sad that not even sonyniggas waste time bragging

>>377344037
the dlc characters for 14 came out a little over a month ago did you really expect them to hand them out for free

>>377344437
>The XIV dx pack is gonna cost 550peso with the discount (25 or so dollars)
Wow that's pretty good. DX pack in dollars is $59.99 with the discount

>>377323596
>$60 for year old hand-me-downs

Nah, get fucked. I wanted this on PC, but give me a decent discount for making me wait so long.

>>377344679
I expected a better base game price at the very least, not so much free DLC.

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>>377344778
Holy bullshit. No wonder people are complaining, I thought they were being stingy bitches.

But hey, at least we can finally enjoy a fighting game without American baddies ruining it for everyone.

>>377332075
Sup, SFV-shill. Are you not busy posting the same Mike Ross images on SFV threads, trying to get people to play your shitty employer's game?

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>sfm rips

>>377345840
Hope you like frankensteined headswaps.

>>377345672
That's a funny thing to say in a thread dedicated to shill SNK's failed abortion.

Why would he need to shill THE MOST PLAYED FIGHTING GAME right now, anyway? :^)

Enjoy your dead on arrival PS2 game, cuck.

>>377344037
The price is retarded and it will guarantee that the game is dead from day1, especially because it launches right next to Xrd2 and Tekken7.

>>377345938
or fully clothed sex

I'm playing the closed beta now. This game feels so much better than XIII. The trials aren't bullshit, either.

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>>377345981
You sure are mad anon

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>>377344974
you do have a discount already

it's 0 dollars with the "pc shoppers" card

>>377347198
Not as mad as you are shilling a dead game LOL

>>377347060
Trials should be hard. Gives you something to practice. They're not fun at all in this game.

>>377348272
Trials are giving you basic BnB combos and how each character interacts with the core mechanics in their own way (special cancel, super cancel, MAX combo, quick MAX combo, Climax cancel).

>>377348390
Yeah, and it's fucking gay. At least give people optimal combos. And then put in a couple swag ones for a challenge. Christ, they need to spend like 2 hours of effort as a company to make the trials not be ass.

>>377346248
>Tekken7
Who the fuck keeps pushing this meme? Tekken has 0 overlap with 2D fighters. You play one or the other, unless you are just bandwagoning but KoF has no bandwagon appeal so it was going to be passed by those mouthbreathers anyway.

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>>377348601
The real meme here is you thinking that people cant enjoy both 2D and 3D fighters.

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>>377323596
HA!

Two weeks after Tekken 7 for 50 dollars, good fucking look snkucks lmaooooo

>>377323596
Cool, now the mustards can come up with reasons why they won't buy it despite spending a year crying about how it wasn't on PC and they better release it on PC if they want to succeed.

>>377348556
This is following the XIII trials, which were honestly pretty nutso as you moved up.

>>377331243
Mustards hate the idea of exclusives. They're teenagers who want everything on PC so they can gloat like the console wars still exist. They have no intention of actually playing or at least buying the games. They want them just to want them like a hoarder in a dick measuring contest with other hoarders.

>>377349248
The last trials were usually fairly easy once you get used to the lenthy buffer window of XIII. It was usually the mid level trials that were bullshit with their retarded unpractical 1 frame links.

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>>377349472
Nice console wars shipost, autist! Well preached, well preached.

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>>377349248
I know, I've been doing XIII trials for the past few days. They're fun and actually help you get good with execution.

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I'd like to buy it but I don't think it's worth the price they are asking for.

>>377345840
You really find these models attractive?

>>377323596
fuck Tekken, I'm getting this 2D > 3D

>>377350270
it definitely isn't. i feel the same way.

the thing with multiplayer oriented games is that the price x value is a logarithm scale. the higher the price, the quicker it loses value, because it means less people paying and playing

this game will be dead, maybe moreso than xrd sign. these companies still haven't learned. the games being ported without taking 3 fucking years is a start, but they're in for a reality check with these prices

>>377350532
the models themselves are decent, the problem is the shading, lighting and the textures. but those can be fixed

it's kind of the opposite of xrd, where the models are ok, but what really makes them standout is the lightning and shading, which is why sfm of them would look terrible without being able to replicate xrd's lightning

>>377350602

I don't really care about multiplayer to be honest, I'm super casual with fightan, I just want to enjoy the story mode and do some flashy combos by mashing random buttons. KoF is one of those games that I always admired but could never get good at.

>>377343658
snk fan here, KOF14 does have lag online, reason why I never bought it, still play it at friends houses though.

>>377323596
>that price
funny shit

>>377350801
I dont see how people like you would ever buy a game at launch then.

Fighting games are terrible for storymode play, not worth more than 10 bucks.
I'd rather invest into something like Bayonetta. Basically a fighting game that is built around CPU play from the ground up.

>>377343658
Dont bother with shitposters, SNK games are known for having shit netplay.

>>377351774
Yet another reason to just play the actually good kof games on ggpo instead

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>>377323596
of COURSE a month after I get the PS4 version, it comes out for PC. Of COURSE.

>>377351887
There's always a chance that 14 ends up being alright netcode wise.
Wait for beta testers responses, play on fightcade until then.

>>377333484
https://twitter.com/abril_el_rosa/status/864669761627504641

>>377352169
>game so braindead and casual a 7-year old girl can play it
LOL

>>377352369
idk, some people on here seem to like the easy-ass trials.

whoever is in the closed beta, can they tell me what specs they have and how it runs

i want to get it but wary of it not running on my machine with only like 4 gb of ram

>>377352760
GeForce GTX 970
8 GB Ram
i5
When the lobbies aren't crashing constantly, the game runs like butter with all graphics features turned on.

>>377323596
>THEY SAID
who said? i don't think KOF was really on anyone's radar for "MUST HAVES".

BUILD A WALL

SFV 4 LYFE SNKFAGS!!!

>>377353129
Well, not on /v/. But then again, no one on /v/ knows anything about fighting games or play them at all.

>>377323596

Why the fuck would I want to spend $70 on a lost PS1 game OP? You can just ulate this hank shit right?

>>377353335
Where? NeoGeo titles aren't exactly large sellers, they've always been more for the really dedicated players into the genre (and not even enough to make the sort of waves that the more popular titles garner).

At least with stuff like the Disgaea games coming to PC, it's a genre you don't see too awful much of outside of the playstation consoles.

>>377353564
People who like fighting games. It's a niche genre.
Which is why people on /v/ don't play them. That and the fact that it takes a bit of effort to play them well.

>>377353710
SRPGs (Disgaea) is also a niche genre, moreso than fighting games (with have several titles, current even, on the PC0.

Point is, even within the fighting community, KOF doesn't make the sort of waves other titles do these days. It has its fanbase, but those who are into it already own it. It's nice that PC players can get it if they want, but it isn't a big deal it coming to Steam.

The Souls games first coming to PC with DaS1 was a big deal. Disgaea (as small as the fanbase is overall) is a big deal, and they're slowly getting to the more current part of the series. The Final Fantasy series (even though a lot of them have been REALLY shitty ports) coming to PC was a big deal. We'll likely see FF12:TZA coming a year after the PS release.

Just saying OP was a bit silly with the "THEY SAID" stuff. It was never a title people have been clamoring to show up on PC. That said, more traditionally console games showing up on PC is a good thing.

>>377331234
>dlc literally just came out
>they're greedy for keeping it as dlc
wat

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>>377347129

they could make a flowchart out of your excuses to not buy kofxiv but it all sinkholes in the end to "not buy" ultimately

i frankly don't really care but excuses are cheap like you have to convince yourself as well

>>377354154
dlc is fine

but the base game came out 8 months ago and it's still full price

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>>377353462
>$70 on a lost PS1 game
what did you mean by this, onan...?

>>377354596
And I don't see this as a problem

Also the pre-order price isn't fullpriced

>>377329587
$70 bucks? Here it cost $40

>>377354683
DOAface

>>377354683
it means he has ffs (fat fingers syndrome) and sucks dick at typing, or is a faggot phoneposter

>>377354683
No one actually thinks DoA Mai looks good right? She looks like if you just took a DoA character and had her cosplay as Mai.

>>377354683
https://twitter.com/ATRyoSakazaki/status/863137936753258496

>>377354683

I mean KOF XIV looks like ass and plays like shit compared to practically every other fighting game out there in 2016-2017, Street Fighter V included.

>>377354787

Eh, I don't mind DOA5LR Mai at all. If anything, it exposes just how much she influenced the creation of practically all of the female DOA characters. I'm mad that she doesn't have Honoka-sized breasts though, but thank God for PC mods.

As for KOF XIV though...

>SHE HAS NO STYLE
>SHE HAS NO GRACE
>THIS KUNOICHI HAS A FUNNY FACE

>>377355425
>I mean KOF XIV looks like ass and plays like shit compared to practically every other fighting game out there in 2016-2017, Street Fighter V included.
Lmao.

>>377355425
what part of it plays like shit

>>377355613

All of it? It's just mindless rundown with every character like Guilty Gear and has Touch-of-Death shot like Mahvel and every other fake-assets trash animus fighter out there.

There's a reason why pro KOF players from the past took a shit on the game and boycotted it.

>>377355561

Street Fighter V is the only reason why fighting games are even talked about in any form online. The /fgc/ goes where the money is, and Capcom knows this and pays people to play the best game of 2016.

>>377355919
so you didn't play the game and have no idea what you're talking about.

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>>377355919
>It's just mindless rundown with every character like Guilty Gear and has Touch-of-Death shot like Mahvel and every other fake-assets trash animus fighter out there.
what the hell? this is straight up trolling as fuck

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>>377354838

How active is online on ps4? I was about to pick it up for ps4 but I might just play on pc against a handful of friends

>>377355919
>There's a reason why pro KOF players from the past took a shit on the game and boycotted it.
name 3 (three)

>>377356147
it's not bad, just sometimes you do have to dig around for someone who is readily available or put your quarter on the machine and wait your turn

>>377356147
its dead and the majority of the players are probably moving to PC.

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>>377355425
>I mean KOF XIV looks like ass and plays like shit compared to practically every other fighting game out there in 2016-2017, Street Fighter V included.
This is actually a veridical statement, rooted wholly in fact. ...Hence will trigger normies and shills.

However, to be fair, SFV is boring as bat shit, and although it is clearly a more 'solid' fighter than KoFXIV, I'd more likely put time into the latter game (while stoned / drunk), than the former--which I can hardly stomach touch.
>Special Ed

What's most bemusing about the release of 'XIV' NOW (*it was always know that a PC SKU was planned, from day-dot, and would always have manifested... unless the game literally bankrupt SNK), is its price tag (~$60 -- more than Tekken 7) and its timing (AFTER T7 -- no one will even care)

>literally, setting the game up to fail

>>377355919
>pays people to play the best game of 2016
Yeah and that's why every top player says the game is shit and Capcom doesn't know what the fuck they're doing. You're retarded.

>>377357332
>Yeah and that's why every top player says the game is shit
Most of them actually say they like the game but have a lot problems with it. Like most people who play it and know a little about fighitng games.

>>377357473
https://www.youtube.com/user/BornFreeYT/videos

Watch some interviews. Every single interview says SFV is a shit game. A couple say they liked season 1 but season 2 is shit. All of them say they have no idea what the fuck Capcom is thinking when they balance the game.

>>377357605
Those are the interviews I'm talking about. There are maybe a couple that say the game is shit, like Filipinochamp. Others, like Bonchan and more, joke about the game and all the things they don't like about it, while sharin their opinions on what they'd like to see changed.
>All of them say they have no idea what the fuck Capcom is thinking when they balance the game
It's true, but then again, players tend to not understand or be happy with what developers do to their game. I don't understand a lot of it myself.

>>377329609
Why not? Crossplay makes more sense for fighting games then any other genre

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>>377357605
>Every single interview says SFV is a shit game.
why would anyone NOT a millennial fight-game bandwagoner, need some interview to know SFV is donkey's balls?

>take 8 years to refine 'IV' to be [arguably] the best fighter of the 2000's
>throw it in the furnace (literally -- they even barred it from the Evo main stage the second 'V' glorified demo dropped)
>revamp the game to have one of the corniest rosters of the franchise (SFIII inclusive) and dump many fan favs and stalwarts
>release the game h̶a̶l̶f̶ quarter-baked
>structure the support like a cancerous MMO
>destroy the lauded online functionality of 'IV'
>do nothing to address fans' concerns for 18 months (and beyond)

Seppuku Fighter V: This is the End, My Only Friend Edition


>(PS: told you so c.FEB 2016)

>>377357960
>Others, like Bonchan and more, joke about the game
Fuck off, even Bonchan's translator made it very clear that he was very serious and didn't even want to translate everything he was saying because of how crude it is. You are grossly understating their opinions.

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>60 bucks for a ps2 tier looking port

>>377356221
KUSANAGI
Misterio
Dakou
Atma

lol I can name more, top players are super divisive on the game as a whole just like SFV unless you're a shill like frionel. The only people who seem to like it are japan and old SF players. in mexican locals, they call it SF XIV.