Can we have a decent Sonic Thread? What are your hopes/opinions

>Forces
Its gun b good
>Mania
Don't care, may buy it on sale

Have mostly outgrown Sonic for the most part though. Haven't liked the classic rehash syndrome the series has had since 2010. Mostly just play stuff I played as a kid on the xbox or DS

>>377293395
You know how this is going to end
Don't pretend

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Forces will probably be okay and will sell gangbusters due to the CaC.

Mania will most definitely be good but obviously won't outsell Forces due to being download only (for the time being).

I suddenly care about forces existence...and that scares me

Forces will be average.

I'm more worried about Mania not living up to the expectations. From what I have seen so far, the level design leaves much to be desired. Sadly, I don't think this is going to be Sonic's return to form from the era people want him to return to.

It'll probably round out at the high 70s on metacritic for journalists, mid 80s for gamers side.

It won't be what people want from the series. I can tell just from the level design so far that I've seen honestly.

>>377293395
>Forces
It'll go over well with the kids, that's what matters right? Hopefully it isn't a complete cut and dry copy of Generations with custom characters.
>Mania
This game looks good, sounds good, and plays like the originals. I want more new levels than old ones. That's reasonable, right?

>>377293691
BIG FAT BAT TATS vs ITTY BITTY KITTY TITTIES

>probably not
>it looks eh, I look forward to laughing at/inadvertently being consumed by OC threads on /v/ when it comes out though
>looks pretty good but unless I have a Switch by release I won't get it, want it portable

>>377293816
I didn't care untilI saw the donut factory feature

>>377293879
Mania will be fine, the classicfags will praise it and suck its cock forever and ever because its the only game they'll get.

>>377294102
BFBT all the way, I don't have any non porn rouge pics tho

>>377294303
>want it portable
My guess is that it'll be on android and iOS too

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>>377293395
I'll buy only Sonic Manía

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>Mania
I wish the dipshit who fucking forced the devs to have rehash levels instead of 100% original ones would get murdered by the Yakuza but besides that, looks great
>Forces
My interest died the moment I saw the fucking Wisps were back

>>377294473
>the classicfags will praise it and suck its cock forever and ever because its the only game they'll get.
Sonic CD selling well lead to Sonic Mania's development. If Mania does well then there will likely be another chapter in Whitehead's involvement with Sega.
Sonic 3

>>377294803
Wisps are in another game that isn't about them? Uggh why? They were so hastily thrown into Lost World that I don't really wanna see them again.

>>377294949
Wisps will forever be in new sonics

>>377293395
>I can't art so I'll just shove shiny red spots on every joint including the shoulders for some reason

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Hey guys I made a new Oc!
He's Spurt The 3 Legged MajinHedgeHurt!
He has 3 legs that helps him run faster and with the power of christ he goes faster than the speed of Mercy!

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>friends making fun of forces
>"h-haha yeah, what a stupid idea"
>mfw I'll buy it on launch

>>377296615
I am enjoying the shit posting but I might buy this game just to make some abominations.

>>377296026
>Sonic Mania is a success
>they ask Whitehead to make a new 2D Sonic game on one condition
>he has to include wisps
the game is actually good and he makes them look stupid again

>>377296026
they have to be, because previous power ups didn't compair to mario power ups at all. Now to compete wisps are now and forever.

>>377293395
what I don't get is why they only give the hedgehogs the chaos emerald power up. Knuckles was able, they should bring that back.

>>377296819
The wisps problem is that they were fine as a gimmick to one game and thematically fit (colors) but just feel so haphazardly thrown in everywhere else. Only other time they made sense is planet wisp generations. as a concept, they shouldn't be a permanent addition

>>377293395
Honestly outside of the oc creator forces seems pretty solid

>>377297056
Yeah they're bad in everything that isn't Colors, Whitehead could probably make it work though.

On the other hand, Iizuka is getting older but sadly he's kind of the only remaining idiot left from the Genesis era and he came in during S3&K. That's the end for most people

>>377297232
to me it looks like the same shit that wasn't as successful as before

>>377297416
I like iizuka. I enjoyed the sonic adventure games, sonic heroes, nights and its sequel. I just dont think hes the right producer for the series. He has a massive mario fetish and its been showing for the last 7 years

I'm really digging Forces thus far though having the OC essentially take Tails' place as the resident tech guy worries me a little.

Mania looks pretty solid but I'm a little concerned that they haven't shown any other new levels.

>>377297569
but don't you know, the OCs are Sonic's best friend. Not tails.

>>377297039
tails had the most broken super form aside from maybe hyper sonic and that took the super emeralds to achieve.

>>377297430
If they can play around the different character races by having different playstiles it could bring something decent

>>377296609
fuck off

>>377297039
I wish Knuckles could go Super in more games.

Gib one good reason why character creator is a bad idea.
>inb4 "muh DA"

>>377297779
looks like they do, with the wolf gun you can do a shot gun explosion with burst wisp.

>>377297039

For some reason, Sonic Team seems hellbent on denying the canonicity of S3+K.

>>377294803
At least the rehash levels arent going to be 1:1 the same. But I do agree. Would've preferred 100% new levels in Mania.

>>377293615
At first I was upset with this post because Mania seriously looks to be the best sonic game to come out in a decade and literally everything about it is a perfect step in the right direction for both the franchise and Sega as a company, where as I'm convinced Forces is just going to be another cash grab that they need to meet their overhead.

But then I remembered not everyone appreciates the classics or what made old sonic games good. An entire generation of people grew up with 3D sonic instead of 2D sonic. I doubt most people even enjoy platformers anymore. To each their own I suppose.

>>377297978
See what went wrong with the sonic games like adventure and after was that the other characters they forced you to play as were useless in the end. Non of them could match up to sonic even though they say they are rivals. Make knuckles relevant again.

>>377298120
but why? that'd retarded

>>377298128
>a decade
I'd say 2 decades

>>377297521
Yeah I like him too. He seems like the kind of guy who could have left and done something on his own at another company but he stuck around for the long run. Strange how life presents you with options and stuff.

>>377298253

It stems from the fact that a good few of the features such as the Super Emeralds and Hyper Forms were there solely because of the Lock-On feature back on the Genesis. Though that doesn't explain why they felt the need to take a hammer to Angel Island and the Hidden Palace.

>>377298292
He seems friendly in his interviews and probably really does love sonic, he just has his own vision for the series that not a lot of fans agree with. Yuji naka leaving was great as he was always bitchy, dont know why the other key creators left, maybe they just got tired of the series. But not iizuka

>>377298417
Naka was too smart, that's the reason for him leaving. If you remember from the beginning the challenge that was presented to him was to team up and make something as good as Mario. After that he felt no need to reiterate and was onto other projects by then.

You ever hear that story about Naka refusing to hand over Nights code to help with Sonic Extreme? That's probably less about his ego and more about him treating his work as way of life. He worked too hard just to have it be spread around and utilized on projects that didn't involve him. I can see why he disapproved. He outgrew the hedgehog.

>>377298760
I wasnt there in the times when sonic was the hottest thing. All i know is from interviews and stories ive read. Along with that nights story, I have also heard things like sega having to buy him ferraris to keep him happy or else he threatened to quit. I dont know why he never gave that team access to the nights engine. It just seemed to selfish and to childish for someone working at a big company to think like that. Doing so without a doubt put a big weakness on the saturn and sega, for not having a real sonic game present. That'd be like if the hedgehog engine creator sued sega because he quit sonic team after sonic unleashed and they kept using his graphics engine.

>>377299095
what's with sonic that brings in the worst people? The developers, comic book writers (Penders), fans. It's like Sonic is the avatar for the Anti Christ.

I want to cum inside Blaze.

>>377299095
>I dont know why he never gave that team access to the nights engine. It just seemed to selfish and to childish for someone working at a big company to think like that.
Well that's your opinion but let me throw you into a scenario. Let's say you work at a company that rewards ingenuity, originality, and hard work. You're making something really fucking amazing that you're really proud of. Next thing you know, someone approaches you and puts you on the spot.

>Can we borrow a piece of what you're working on to help a team that is struggling to make ends meet?
>Choice 1: What the hell? I worked hard to get where I am, absolutely not.
>Choice 2: Eh, whatever. It's not like I have to do anything. You better pay me a lot.
The choice is yours. You can't say he acted selfishly, he didn't owe Sonic shit by that point and wanted to do something new.

Honestly I don't care about Extreme. Nothing looks interesting about it except that it was never finished. You wanna know what really hurt the Saturn? Half of the system's catalogue never leaving Asia.

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>when the porn bait thread turns into actual sonic discussion

>>377299836

To be fair, we actually have things to go on for the first time in months.

>>377299469
Your dick would burn into ashes.

>>377298128
>then I remembered not everyone appreciates the classics or what made old sonic games good
Those people are literally the irrelevant and insane part of the audience.

post Rouge the Bat lewds

>>377293395
Incoming autism, forgive me.
I want the character customization of Forces, the gameplay of Utopia, the light Action RPG elements of Boom, and the story/setting of the original comic.
So basically: you play as a Freedom Fighter (your custom character), the Mobius geurilla resistance, who's mission is to take back your homeland from Robotnik. Gameplay is divided between hub-like areas with occasional combat and exploration with the chance to interact with characters and sprawling platforming sections which are fairly linear but allow you to take various paths to the objective. Boss battles are more interesting than just waiting for the right moment and hitting the glowing spot. Maybe the enviroment and gadgets play a role.
Main characters make occasional appearences at crucial plot moments but are not playable. Multiplayer co-op (split screen and online) would be cool as well.
Sonic has always crammed spinoff elements into its games in the form of different characters and settings, theonly true spinoff I known of being Shadow's game, which followed a single unique character with unique gameplay and alternate setting. I think something more in the vein of that would be fun, even though Shadow was awful.
Something like that anyways.

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>>377300727

>>>/trash/

http://8ch.pl/sth/res/2.html

>>377300908
>Utopia
>gameplay
you mean that tech demo that a guy used to elevate himself for 15 minutes

Utopia a shit

>>377301004
I agree. But what was there got me excited. And not all of it was good, but I thought it worked with the speed and momentum based gameplay. Visually it was also nice.
I'd just like to see a full game like it. Its something different from other 3D platformers and suits Sonic specifically.

>>377301354
>A big field to run around in
IT'S FUCKING NOTHING NIGGA

Can't wait for Mania.
Forces keeps getting worse.
Will genuinely mourn the comic's death, really.
Boom still sucks.

Think that covers it.

>>377293395
Do you guys think forces will be moddable?
Also >>>/vr/ maniafags

>>377301492
Its the same as other 3D Sonic games scaled way up, which gives a nice feeling of freedom and allows for better speed and maneuverability.
I like it. I didn't say you have to. I just think it works better for translating Sonic's speed oriented gameplay, rather than playing the equivalent of running down a corridor at simulated speeds and having limited control or the controls taken away from you numerous times.
Its my opinion.

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>Forces announces OC Donut Steels
>Actually feel my 10-year old autism come back
>Probably gonna pre-order a goddamn sonic game

Send Help

>>377302031
>>Actually feel my 10-year old autism come back
I've had the same experience anon. I've not been interested in a Sonic game in years, stayed away from Sonic discussion, and not bought any games.
Won't be buying this either because I figure it'll be shit, but it sure has flipped the old 'tism switch.

this is just XY all over again
even if theyre incredibly bland games,
customization will make them the best by default

Forces will likely be arse.

Mania will likely be my favourite sonic game ever.

>>377298279
Almost 2. Sonic Pocket Adventure came out in 99.

>>377299760
I'd say that the saturn costing 600 sheets didn't help either....

>>377293395
>What are your hopes/opinions for Sonic Forces?
I'm very mixed and still in shock over the OC creator. It's been such a joke over the years and to see it become a reality is equal parts stunning, interesting, and horrifying. I'm not an OC guy, never made one and never wanted to, so I'm not really looking forward to it.

Above all, I really hope this isn't a trend for future games, I'd way more rather play as Sonic's friends than an OC.

The gameplay looks alright, nothing great, but it's probably fun. I loved Generations, so I'm happy modern Sonic has boost, but Classic Sonic doesn't look very improved. Also, too much 2D. I'm betting the game as a whole gets 7s with a slightly higher average score than Lost World.

>What are your hopes/opinions for Sonic Mania?
It looks like it's going to turn out amazing. Really the only thing that can go wrong is level design being shit. They nailed the physics, look, and music. Nail level design and you got a game that rivals the classics.

I'm betting it gets 8s and 9s and a couple sites will have it in GOTY discussion.

I don't understand Mania.
Is it just the old games in one package?

Or is it a totally new game in the style of the old games - like physics and all? Also if so, how much of the content is new?

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>chuckling mode permanently enabled.

>no option to flex my muscles.

Better be fixed in dlc Sega. But seriously I just want to be able to make pic related, or something close. Don't fuck me on this Sega.

>>377305009
I doubt it'll really have hair options since almost all Sonic characters don't really have hair. The only exception is Vanilla, IIRC.

>>377305402
>The only exception is Vanilla
And even then it's not really hair but mostly a tuft of fluff

>>377305524
Pretty much. I see some OC fans on the horizon that are gonna be frustrated.

>>377305402
I know. I was thinking about if there were game characters with hair. I realized the same thing. Sonic Team needs to make a deal with Archie Comics like right now.

>>377305880
Considering the comics might be cancelled, I doubt that'll happen.

>>377305947
Fuck. It hurts to live. I may pick up modding just to try and make it happen.

>>377293395
I wish Forces had decided to go with a Sonic-Shadow-Blaze route instead. Boost levels, Rush-style levels instead of Classic, and with Shadow Chaos/G.U.N gadget gimmicks to fit the OC playstyle.
I don't really see why we need Classic Sonic when Mania is coming out.

>>377306152
Forces was in development before Mania so they originally didn't have something running against their Classic Sonic.

>>377306095
If you can find a good model, you can mod it in. The problem pretty much solely relies on that first part, though.

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This is just a reminder that Vanilla is best girl.

>>377306710
Just ask the guy who did those 3D renders for the Archie Sonic variant covers for the models. I'm sure he has them.

where are the lewd pics, you guys disappoint me

>>377307104
She's not allowed to release them, since she made them for Archie.

>>377307173
Well ain't that just a damn shame.

>>377307246
Yup, it's why there aren't many, if any, real good Freedom Fighters mods for Generations.

>>377307351
If i can't, I'm gonna do some research on texture and model swapping to make it happen.

>>377307617
Good luck, anon. Make the dreams come true.

>>377293740
Mania is already prohected to outsell forces.
It has much more hype behind it

Couldnt care less about more 3D shit.
Ive played them all except Boom.

Mania ftw

>no physical release of sonic mania
>2hu gets a physical release
I want it on my shelf sega.
I will just pirate it on PC.

>>377307686
Sounds hopeful and I think it would send a good message to Sega, but come on

>2D Sonic vs a 3D Sonic with a built in Autism simulator

>>377304995
Seems like a handful of levels from every game mixed with new stages. The old levels are also remixed up in some fashion, though Sega's not said much.

>>377307784
>no physical release of sonic mania
What about the special edition with a little sonic image and a genesis statue?

>>377308373
It's still just a download

>>377308238
They're seemingly mixed up to the point where it's more like they are just reusing assets and themes to make entirely new level layouts out of them.

>>377310092
no

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>>377310092

>Can we have a decent Sonic Thread?

You know damn well we can't, but I guess it's worth a shot.

>What are your hopes/opinions for Sonic Forces?

I really don't give a fuck about Forces at all right now. The initial teaser, between the darker setting and bringing back classic sonic killed it. At least create-an-OC might be fun just for the sake of making shitty generic deviantart-tier edgelords.

>What are your hopes/opinions for Sonic Mania?

It's gonna be good shit. I have faith in based taxman and stealth.

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>>377293395
Manina is looking good, cautiously optimistic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDFaRMmWbKo

Bit more worried about Forces, classic Sonic is ok, but seeing wisps again sucks, but I enjoyed daytime Unleashed, Colors, and Generations. Wanna see more information on it.

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>>377310092

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>>377310787

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>>377310724

>>377310747
Honestly i'm happy that Wisps are kept out of Modern Sonic's stages and will just be a thing for Hero. Allows them to not have to worry about designing around both boost and wisps for one stage but instead design stages for Hero all around his wispon and grapple hook.

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>>377293395
>Boot up
>Goto /v/
>First Image I see

Mania is looking good. Legit hype. I hope I can find it better then 3&k.

Forces screwed itself with the last reveal.
I am not buying that.

>>377311558

the create a character thing is dumb but in a fun way. the 06-tier darker setting and bringing back classic sonic and wisps are the real fucking issue.

I'm not buying Forces until I know how in-depth the character maker is, I wanna play an official Sonichu game and nothing less.

I'm preordering Mania soon as I can though. Hope we get some more interesting remix stages. Hopefully something from CD.

>>377311640
The whole package screams "we can't be arsed to improve the modern gameplay, so take all the bits you liked from previous games" to me.

Post more blaze

>>377311912

Hard to tell if Sega got lazier, or just fully embraced the mindset of "Fine, ya don't like it, YOU do it".

>>377293395
>Forces
Not really interested in the CAC and would rather play as one of the many already cool characters in the series. But if it's like Generations, it might be fun at least.

>Mania
Looks pretty awesome.

>>377311640
>the create a character thing is dumb but in a fun way.
I would've been fine with it in a spin-off, but not a main game.

>>377312508

Probably half and half. I think Lost World was worth trying, not a perfect game by any measure but an interesting experiment that with some refinement could have been a good way to do 3D sonic that wasn't just boostan. But since nobody bought it since it was on the wii u, and the ones that did shat on it because it wasn't boost to win, they're just gonna keep doing the same half-assed shit for the next ten years.

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>When archie comics suddenly give Sally a smoking hot body

>>377312859

>when archie added that hot AI girl
>when archie brought back based Honey

I'm gonna miss those comics, if only because of the fuel they gave my needs.

>>377312859
I love you Butler.

would buy sonic forces desu just to make a shitty scourge

>>377299836
I need more Omega being hilarious.

Goddamn now I remembered how 06 butchered him uuuuuugh.

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>>377310787

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Fuck this autism dump, tell me your top five favorite classic zones right now.

>>377293395
>What are your hopes/opinions for Sonic Forces?
I've lost all hope the moment classic sonic showed up. The custom character thing was like kicking me while I'm down.

>What are your hopes/opinions for Sonic Mania?
Might pirate it.

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Requesting fat bat tats

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>>377313747

>>377313872
Hydrocity (still hoping it'll get into Mania)
Mushroom Hill
Flying Battery
Stardust Speedway
Launch Base or Icecap, can't really decide.

>>377311875
>He doesn't know E E & E

Fuck off retard

>>377313872

5. Chemical Plant

4. Mushroom Hill

3. Icecap Zone

2. Sky Sancutary

1. Stardust speedway

Im frightened

>>377293395
I hope Forces has custom voices for the OC.

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>>377313972
Continue.

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>>377305009
>spikes no longer clip through boulders
>forced to cooperate with modern and classic sonic, unable to stay a loner

Where did it go so wrong

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>>377293395
They both look like romhacks of Sonic games, but Mania looks like the better romhack of the better games. Mania's reveals have ranged to me from "Neat I guess" to "Fucking amazing" while Forces' reveals have ranged to me from "Oh jeez" to "Well okay"

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>>377314660
I don't know if there was ever anymore to this i'm afraid

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>>377314838
Not him but man, you know a lot about MLP.

>People actually try to talk about Sonic
>/v/ can't have none of that shit

>>377313872
Hydocity, Icecap, Lava Reef, Casino Night, Marble.

>>377313952
Read the thread.

>>377319158
no u

>>377319372
no u

>>377313872
5. Angel Island Zone
4. Sky Sanctuary zone
3. Quartz Quadrant
2.Stardust Speedway
1. Casino Night Zone

>>377310896
neck yourself

maybe it can be decent if you don't start with an image like that.

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>>377313564

>decent sonic thread
Good one anon

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>>377310896
Kill yourself, you fucking degenerate
https://derpibooru.org/942485

>>377323797
I swear to god if Omega isn't in Forces i'm gonna be mad. Its the perfect setting for him, shittons of Eggman's robots everywhere

>>377326180
this

>>377293395
I want to marry Blaze!

>>377293615
Reverse for me.

Forces looks boring as fuck where Mania shines and has a lot of charm. I hope Sonic cucks your CaC at the end of Forces like Goku does in XV2