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why do so many say san's boss fight was the best when this

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why do so many say san's boss fight was the best when this one was obviously better
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>that intro theme
Say what you want about undertale, but it's music is legitimately great
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>>377268639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcamjcoRmrQ
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Why do I unironically want a manga of this.
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>>377268571
how did asgore even handle the war with humanity

did he even actually fight or just have everyone run to the underground
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>>377268571
Asgore's fight really was top tier. The only thing Sans' fight had over Asgore was that it was actually difficult. Thanks for never finishing hard mode Toby.
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>>377268571
Sans is overrated.
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>>377269017
of undertale or asgore ?

why the fuck do japs love undertale so much ?
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>>377269206
Humans are way stronger than monsters in this setting.

Your character isn't actually getting stronger or anything as they level up, they're just getting more willing to kill.

A fucking child can massacre what's left and be left unopposed if they want to kill enough.
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>>377269821
>japan loves undertale

Wait, what?
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>>377269821
Game is more focused on emotions rather than just violence.
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>>377269939
yeah a lot of people seem to like it for some reason

especially popular with westaboos
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>>377269453
Basically this. Asgore is an example of a bossfight done right.

Sans battle its just fun
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>>377270515
I don't think toby intended sans to be a boss at all he just needed to fill in a boss for the genocide run since neutral and pacifist had one
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>>377268571
Sans fight was way harder, had better music, better flavor text, and the fate of the world riding on it

Asgore's fight was probably my second favorite in the game, not being able to act out of it and him breaking the mercy button was amazing and had an insane amount of impact on a blind pacifist run
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I actually really enjoyed sans' fight because the reveal that he was some kind of super powerful entity was actually pretty shocking
to me
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>>377269206
Bro the human side didn't even lose a single person

It's possible they had someone resetting but even then, that's insane.
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>>377270639
Nah, I think he always had SOMETHING planned for him. The entire game he always hinted at there being something more to him. His "shortcuts", seemingly freezing time in the bar, "You'd be dead where you stand", etc.
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Sans' fight is obviously post-game boss material. You face it in a different way. You're pretty much prepared (except maybe if you played the game day 1) and it's a choreography

I feel like asgore's is more belonging to the story experience, and probably the first time shit hits the fan and things get serious for you

When he breaks the mercy button it was all hype
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>>377271028
I still say as a Pacifist Run, that the more times he kills you, the more, and more it become a burden for Asgore to continue onward, till he breaks down, and instead of you pleading mercy, It's him instead, then the dialog goes like normal.
Really, really missed opportunity
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>>377268905
>Asgore's theme has Heartache in it

I only just noticed this. This fucking game and it's motifs man
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>>377273343
The entire fight Asgore is basically hoping you'll kill him. He's stuck in a promise that he knows is wrong, not only morally but in actuality, since a war with humans is suicide.

Not to mention that the entire fight Asgore is going easy on you from the get-go. Remember what Undyne said about training with him? She said she couldn't land a single blow on him. Asgore knows how to dodge.
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>mfw he breaks the Mercy button
Undertale was a great experience, a real shame that the fanbase is so fucking awful, they could've done great things with the characters and the music.
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I wanna create an RPG that breaks expectations but how the hell do I even do that now? Feels like Toby went out of his way to do every unorthodox thing he could think of. If I do meta shitm I'll be compared to UT. If I do something overtly emotional or based in positivity, I'll be compared to UT. If I want to skimp on graphics, which isn't really an if since I don't have the money or time to devote to learn graphical skill, I'll be compared to Undertale.

As inspiring as Undertale was for making me believe I could make a game almost on my lonesome, it's just as much demotivating. Doesn't help I'm not creative and haven't played many RPGs outside of big name titles. Do I just resign myself to a boring existence and accept I was too late to enter the race?
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>>377274627
The guy who did Oneshot basically had to rewrite the sequel since Undertale did a lot of the shit he was planning on doing
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>>377274627
do it 8 years from now with a completely different medium
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>>377274627
If you do it far enough from now, which will probably happen naturally, even if you start now, then people will see it inspired by Undertale, instead of ripping it off, as long as you don't do too much of the same trickery.
You could maybe find some other things to twist though and not be seen as someone just trying to piggyback off the success.
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>>377274627
Just work on your shit and perfect it for a decade. Even if some people cry that you're copying, it will have been long enough that 90% of the people won't care.
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>>377274627
you can make a meta game with an emotional story

just try to put in different characters/setting since those are two of the main things that makes/breaks a story
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>>377274627
Aside from what the other anons have said I've found that expanding my horizons and consuming more games/media/whatever really helps me write better things and find the kind of stories I want to make
Also know that I will be cheering you on forever and always
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>>377269939
Where have you been? Undertale is literally anime.

>>377269206
It's really stupid, yeah. And in this setting humans can use magic as well.
But if you think about it, you can understand why humans attacked monsters and secluded them in the caves. Look at Asriel. Just a seven souls and a monster turns into literal God. For humans, monsters seemed like a ticking bomb.

>>377269453
Toby really nailed it with Asgore. I went in completely blind the day the game came out, so I wasn't even sure if "you can spare everyone" was true, and my first playthrough was neutral. Killed a few monsters there and there, figured out how to spare them, and then killed Toriel. Whole New Home section struck me pretty hard, I felt really guilty when I reached Asgore and saw his face. And I desperately tried to spare him as well, so I kept dying.
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>>377268639
Music is honestly the most important part in making a game memorable.
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>>377268571
>His head is bowed in shame as he fights to kill you.

It's the little things that make you feel.
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>>377269972
Memes can still make you smile anon
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>>377274627
>tfw I finally thought of a cool RPG I wanted to make
>I'll never make it

Just kill me.
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>>377275826
>Where have you been? Undertale is literally anime.

pretty much this

this game was made by weebs for weebs
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The Asgore fight and Omega Flowey right afterwards was the best part of the game easily. It's a shame, though, that the whole section is piss-easy once you knew what you were up against.
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I really wish Undertale didn't get such a disgusting following. It does some legitimately good shit but everyone treats it as THE meme game due to all the wrong parts of it being circulated ad nauseum.
Like, fuck, say what you want about the game itself but the OST is sublime.
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>>377277567
If Omega Flowey had less checkpoints I would consider it a valid threat, but Toby decided to literally put one every minute of the fight. It kinda dampered the experience
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>>377278132
Honestly, the game ends after you beat Asgore, you need to be really bad at Shmups to die to Flowey
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I'd be up for an Undertale: Remastered
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>>377278273
I thought I was in for some good challenge with Flowey but then the game decided to hold my had for the checkpoints. It's kinda disappointing to be honest. If Toby wanted to put a casual helping feature he should've beat Yoko Taro to the punch and added an option to accept or decline help from the SOULs early on after a certain amount of deaths
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>>377278132
i mean, you have people who did full mercy runs that haven't had any difficult bullet hells who ended up at that fight due to the fact that true end requires you to beat normal mode once. So for them, the fight was insanely difficult, plus the whole thing was more theatrical then anything
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>>377268571
Because people think harder means higher quality, when difficulty is only there to provide a sense of accomplishment. Past a certain point it's like whatever.
Asgore is still kinda easy, though not as easy as the rest of the game, but the presentation and being the only fight you have to fight through on pacifist makes it really exciting and memorable. His character also gets that build up throughout the game and they follow through with it real nicely.
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>>377278132
At that point in the game though, it's all about momentum to reach the end.

I'd rather not replay massive chunks of that fight over and over when the story significance of that fight is far more interesting than its difficulty.
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>>377276886
No one will give a shit if you crutch on RPG Maker if you become one of the select few to both use none of the RTP and try to add some twist to the battles system.
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>>377268571
Because they're man children intellectually and emotionally stunted from a life of few to no or low-quality friends and a diet of power fantasy video games and maybe some 3rd grade reading level novelizations if they're feeling especially clever.

Trying to put Undertale bosses (and this isn't exclusive to this game or games in general) on a linear scale of quality is as braindead as literal grade school arguments about what color is the best.

In general the later game bosses stood out as better examples of the VIDEO GAME BOSS, each entertaining or compelling in a different way, but I had fun with every single one in the game.


Death to the teenagers that shit up this board
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>>377278885
The problem is trying to get the battle system right. It's hard to choose between trying to make it pure turn based or something else. I have a concept but I can't seem to flesh it out completely.
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>>377278132
I wish coming back after a Neutral Run made monsters harder.

In fact, I wish most of the monsters were harder. I only had trouble with Muffet, Undyne, and Asgore.
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>>377279121
Jesus anon, calm down
nice art
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>>377274627

The problem is that breaking expectations is so common and popular these days. What you really need to do is break expectations by not breaking expectations.
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>>377278132
I understand why the fight sort of needed those checkpoints, because the game force closing and requiring you to start it up again every time you die is actually kinda fucking stupid, it's not far off from when a game genuinely crashes and you have to start up and reload an older save. Even worse in a shmup, a genre that likes to hurry you back into the action after dying.
The game basically gimped a potentially good fight scenario for some novelty, but whatever I enjoyed it at the time.
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Anyone got that "find his prostate" image ?
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>>377279261
Whats your concept
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>>377280000
To be honest he should have just stopped doing it after the third time.
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Wasn't there a bonus game or something as a stretch goal?

What the fuck ever happen to that?
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>>377268571
This was the absolute tightest shit in the game outside of Undyne the Undying
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>>377281039
>tfw can't fight the genocide run bosses since i don't want to ruin my world.
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>>377280120
Basically, a two character RPG that's about bonds and two individuals becoming part of a greater group. Some sort of ATB system would allow for more freedom like allowing you to choose to guard another character for a period of time, but it'd be clunky to try to control two characters at a time like that. Regular turn based would be easier to implement but it'd be harder to make it interesting.
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>>377269939
Japan loves their weird emotional shit
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>>377269939
>No Skeleton porn
>All goat porn
One job Japan.
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>>377274627
All of that has been done before Undertale. It will fade with time. The problem you have isn't that Toby did anything truly new or unique, it's that people have latched on to it so hard.
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>>377274750
>Loses a competition to a half-ass diversity game which uses RPG maker assists
>Has to remake his entire game because another game did it first and got popular.
I feel for this guy.
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>>377275826
>Just a seven souls and a monster turns into literal God
But a human can supposedly take the souls too.
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>>377277064
Add in furry, muh diversity, and lgbtq, and you have the perfect party for autists.
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>>377281775
>No Skeleton porn
>a bad thing
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>>377281775
>Not wanting to be graced by more Sindoll art

What are you, gay?
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>>377271276
>super powerful entity
But anon, he only did one damage an attack. He just happened to be the only one who didn't wait his turn or just let you hit him. He's not strong, he's just a cheater.
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>>377269939
Yeah. The MGS composer even did an Undertale tribute album - http://nichegamer.com/2016/11/16/metal-gear-solid-composer-norihiko-hibino-did-a-jazzy-undertale-music-album/
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>>377281775
>no Skeleton porn
and they did it well
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>>377269017
Maybe because Toby fucking promised comics as an incentive on his kickstarter.
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>>377282142
>the reason humans won isn't because they're stronger, it's because the monsters all tried to be turn based and then said "n-no it's my turn now" while the humans continued to beat the shit out of them
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>>377282254
that's the good shit right here
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>>377281627
that sounds nice
do you have concept art for it? did you make your idea in a engine?
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>>377282254
that's pretty cool. I'm probably going to buy it
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Goes to show how much, likable characters, good music, decent uncomplicated story and an accessible gameplay go to make a game good.
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I just wish the sprites weren't so fucking terrible.
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>you tell Asgore he's already killed you once before
>he nods sadly
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>>377283203
Careful now, you might trigger /v/'s unbridled autism

I agree though
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>>377284443
I enjoy this game as well, but it baffles me when people say it's the best game ever.
It does have some of the best skeletons ever though.
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>>377280078
Anyone ? His squirming uncomfortable little face just kills me.
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>>377268571
The shine that telegraphs the attacks is a reflection on his tears
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why did the fandom spiral so far out of control in such a short time?
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>>377285000
Tumblr and a tainted game
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>>377285063
unga bung.
>>377285000
cool concepts mashed together to form a fuckball of appeal to different people. presentation and tone makes it accessible and appealing to children.
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>>377284739
I think the "BEST GAME EVER" stuff was more the initial enjoyment and feeling people had from the game.
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>>377273412
Niggah, there are like 5 original songs in the entire game. The rest are just remixes of those.
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>>377268571
Is he tilting his head down or is his face blacked out with a giant grin?
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>>377285063
>>377285138
You guys can't use tumblr as a crutch forever. /v/ played just as big of a role in it by being 50% "You gotta play this game! It's fantastic!
and 50% "le forced diversity tumblr sjw furry autist game! kek kek kek!"
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>>377285371
he's hanging his head in shame
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>>377285063
>Tumblr
Fair enough.
>a tainted game
How?
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>>377268571
I'd say the best fight is with Genocide Undyne. She gives it her all and conjures up her own determination in an attempt to stop you. Sans cheats the system to keep up with you. Not even Asgore could reach her level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCMJC1Ig6s
The soundtrack for it is TIGHT as well. I love whne the ZUNpets kick in.
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>>377281775
Other than the robot and the lesbians, Japan makes a fuckton of skellies and goat porn.

http://alice-books.com/item/list/all?keyword=Undertale
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Asgore

>mentioned from the start as someone who WILL fucking kill you
>totally emotionally drained from the fact that both of his children died, his wife left him, and him and his people have been banished underground
>forced to kill the next 6 unlucky humans to have fallen down just to free his people
>BEST fucking battle theme

sans
>absolute garbage tier clashing bullshit battle theme
>shitty meme character patrick star ripoff
>shitty 4th wall breaking meme
>literally simon says

Yeah, today OP was actually right about something.
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>>377285909
>not a single Doggo doujin
I always thought that is inability to see well would make for some amusing lewd scenarios. Oh well.
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>>377285000
The game targeted and appealed to the most autistic types of people. The fandom being trash was unavoidable.
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>>377274192
Undertale had some pretty great ways of fucking around with the game mechanics.

>Asgore destroying the Mercy button. You fight until one of you dies, mercy is literally not an option.
>It's loosely put back together when the option to spare him comes back up
>Using your hitbox to push the gameplay area around to hit the Attack button
>The entire Omega Flowey fight being completely different from anything else
>Even minor shit like the giant muffin spider chasing you during the Muffet fight, and the play area extending way up when you jump over Papyrus's attack
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>>377285719
This is one of the few songs I felt actually suited the situation in the game. Too bad it kind of loses it at the end.
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>>377280000
>because the game force closing and requiring you to start it up again every time you die is actually kinda fucking stupid, it's not far off from when a game genuinely crashes and you have to start up and reload an older save.

Wait, did it actually do this? Everytime I died it just kicked me right back to the fight without a problem.
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Just did the first pacifist run after neutral. I heard you have to retry to get true pacifist. Worth it or not?

Should I do genocide?
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>>377286605
>Should I do genocide?
Not unless you like some of the worst grinding imaginable.
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Only time I almost died in my one playthrough was on his fight but someone told me later that he won't actually kill you so fuck if that didn't just ruin it for me.

Also I wanted to kill the fucker since he was he one who was telling monsters to kill you and shit. Boo hoo muh kingdom muh promises, I'm like an 8 year old and you sent a homicidal fish knight out to kill me, I'm not buying it. Then again I wanted to kill that first goat that kidnaps you and tries to lock you in her house forever so maybe I'm just and edgy fag lord.
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>>377286837
>hates the father figure for bossing around
>hates the mother figure for being overly protective
Wow this is like straight from my childhood
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>>377269017

Probably want to watch that monkey's paw there, anon.
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desu as much as I like the Asgore and Omega Flowey fights, I liked this one more
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>>377268571
Memes.
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>>377287073
Nigga the mom goat beats you for trying to go outside

If you are into child abuse that's cool but in prisons that shit gets you shanked
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>>377273803
Also if you look at his stats he has 500 attack or something stupid like that.
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>>377269939
>he doesn't go to niconico to get the freshest japanese memes
Fucking neo-/v/.
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>>377287687
Nah, those rainbows, generic happy rock music from 00's Sonic games and insufferable cunt of a boss. This was such a letdown of a culmination
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>>377287687
>"But perhaps you can save something else..."
>Hopes and Dreams kicks in.

The only thing I've played more anime than that was Asura's Wrath and I loved every second of both.
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>>377285183
>watching that ghost approach only to tuck you in
My asshole never unclenched itself harder.
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>>377286684
>Not unless you like some of the worst grinding imaginable
The grinding in genocide is ridiculous compared to any RPG that has it. You can autorun without moving to get encounters and just alt+tab while waiting. It's one of the easiest "grinds" I've experienced.
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>>377286684
isn't that the point though
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>>377287687
Pure shit
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>>377286605
Do Genocide on your own risk.
If you do Genocide run, and then do True Pacificist afterwards, you get the True Genocide ending..
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>>377289440
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>>377288575
A good rpg doesn't make you feel like you're grinding, if it even requires it at all. Wanting to alt+tab away from a game is pretty telling.
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>>377289575
It's cinematic trash bruv
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>>377274192
if you ignore and avoid the retarded side of the fanbase there are actually some decent AU's, Art and remix's

Like any fanbase really
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>>377281627
I don't get why you people are so scared of making a pure turn based RPG when most of the more popular ones are indeed turn based

>but it's always "buff, attack, heal"!
Then make buffs, skills and healing interesting by not making generic "Increases attack for 3 turns", "deals lots of damage" and "heals everyone HP" skills?
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>>377289619
It's tedious on purpose, a lot of things in the genocide run are supposed to discourage you from continuing.
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>>377290565
That's not a valid excuse. Whether it was intentional or not doesn't matter, it's tedious and unenjoyable. There are a plethora of better ways he could have gone about making people want to give up on a genocide run, such as vastly ramping up the overall difficulty.
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>>377269939
apparently it isnt according to japs and their streamers
whenever it was played it was always compared to lisa
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>>377293101
https://youtu.be/LRmHqO55nyc
https://youtu.be/J6GG5SBjOWo
https://youtu.be/GrVML6O8NSw
https://youtu.be/fl5SjaRMhbg
https://youtu.be/05tr9-9kl0I
https://youtu.be/33OlqEKMo84
https://youtu.be/q-rfBnmaosM
What the fuck am I to do with all these memes though?
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>>377268571
He was way too fucking easy, like the rest of the game

Hardmode never ever
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>>377268571

Because the actual fight itself isn't better, due to it being piss easy by nature of it being made for a pacifist route.
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>>377294785
but asgore wasn't made for the pacifist route it was made for the neutral route
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>>377293101
Are you retarded? LISA came out earlier, sure. Maybe some of the westaboos knew and compared them. But it got translated later than Undertale. And now it's described by majority as similar to Undertale.
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>>377289747
I agree with you completely, but the mere fact that you just said the word AU takes a good 50 points of your total record.
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>>377295469

It had to be easy enough to get by on pacifist so it effectively was made for pacifist.

Pacifist is just an extension of the neutral route, like getting an S ending instead of just an A ending.
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>>377294208
cute
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>>377289747
If AU is what I think it is, then that shit is retarded as fuck and belongs solely to the autistic side of the fanbase.
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just posting best music/design/bossfight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi2FOXsCIpY
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>>377296107
About 150 000 km on that side in fact.
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>>377296237
that's not mettaton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TgO-tN5wAM
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>>377268571
i like his music more then megalovania, say what you will. its god tier
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>>377269767
no shit sherlock
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>>377269206
fucking everyone died, and it was less that he was a shitty fighter and more that all of monsterkind is a shitty fighter
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>>377271028
>be any youtuber ever
>oh fuck he broke the spare button
>talk
>talk
>talk
>talk
>TALK
>TALK HARDER
those people get the same text like 20 times as well
do they not understand that the spare button is the "pass the turn without doing anything aggresive" button?
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>>377296717
>Well-coordinated and heavily practiced Monster army beaten by a rag-tag group of humans run by a small child and a mage with 140 spells.
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>>377268571

Because Memes and Megalovania. ASGORE's fight was akin to fighting the Boss in MGS3.
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reminds me
>sans reveals promise
>he said he would protect you
>he lets you die
>he says that if not for said promise he would have killed you on the spot
>everyone ships him and the player
THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS
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>>377297394
That's EXACTLY how shipping works though.
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>>377284116
>undyne turns torwards you
>shitty default smile sprite
it fucking ruined it for me
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>>377285371
a small detail most people overlook is that he is holding his head down because its too hard for him to look you in the eyes
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>>377295534
oh i remember this
the streamer would translate on stream by reading it poorly
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>>377297634

There are just so many nice little details surrounding ASGORE.

>The santa costume mentioned way back in Snowdin
>Continuously tries and fails to remake Toriel's pie
>That little moment of panic when you first meet him, either because he thought you'd never make it to him or because you're the spitting image of Chara

Goatdad had a hard life.
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>>377279493
NO

I hate the bandwagoning contrarianism that this board has spiraled down into.
This board and this site used to be cleverer.
But now it's no different than any other pop culture site, except the teenagers that inhabit take it upon themselves to be divisive and crude in a pale imitation of those who made the site what it is.
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>>377287687
The three fights work well for their routes. Asriel is weak on the combat since Pacifist is more about being good goys and talking out your problems, Sans is the edgy difficult fight for the edgy route, and Asgore is a tragic inbetween for the tragic inbetween routes.
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>>377298182
>I hate the bandwagoning contrarianism that this board has spiraled down into.
But anon, you were being an annoying contrarian.
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>>377298040
is pretty much made out of little detailes almost everyone misses
>you kill every real threat in 1 hit in geno run
>kill gay robot and asgore instantly because of all the grinding you are doing
>sans dodges so you won't instakill him
so many people don't get this
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>>377286196
Japanese people almost never have any fun with their doujin concepts. Other animu and games I like with doujins? It's all generic crap ranging from pure and cute (but boring) to edgy and intense old man rape (and also boring). A neat lewd gimmick? No, that'll never sell.
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>>377298357
I'm serious.
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>>377298592
So I am. You literally had a autistic fit because of the most common opinion.
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>>377269017
I'd like to have more material of it too, but the problem with Undertale is that it really does only work as a videogame. How do you do stuff like the battle in the OP without the HUD? Or Flowey's crash?


You really can't. Youtube videos are a thing because they're more like parodies of the game, so they get a pass.

How do you do a comic? You release 3 different versions, one for each run?
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>>377299203
If Undertale ever got a non-video game adaption of any kind, I think I'd like a movie by Studio Laika.
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>>377288051
Why do you talk like a fucking high school kid who just found /b/ from leddit?
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>>377298182
Been here since 06. /v/ is nothing but underage faggots spouting edgy shit to fit in. The culture of the board is completely lost to retarded children. Deal with it or fuck off, there's no saving this piece of shit anymore.
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>>377269017
I really want a manga except it's a doujin involving Frisk fucking Asriel
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>>377298358
>because of the grinding
No, dipshit, your character has always been 100X stronger than the monsters, all genocide mode does is add a will to murder, that's clearly explained in every route when sans talks about LVL. You aren't getting stronger, just more unhinged.
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>>377299813
thats what i meant, you know how in some games you grind for dollars, yuros, spacebucks, starbucks, exp, weapons, etc? in this one you are grinding for will or LV
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>>377297254
To be fair, doing the same thing over and over again is how you spare Toriel. I made the same mistake myself when I fought Asgore the first time.
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>>377300756
the game straight up tells you that talking won't do anything though
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I liked the Genocide route a lot. Call me edgy, but it felt like the true route to me.
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>>377301374
edgy
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>>377301374
Hi Chara.
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>>377301609
i hate that autistic "hurr durr chara did genocide not me" shit. its not like the entire point of it was that YOU DECIDED to kill everyone
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>>377286018
Hey man megalovania is catchy. I'm not even a Sans fan but credit where credit is due.
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>>377289685
>Cinematic
sure
>Trash
Subjective

It felt like a good culmination of what you've been doing in the whole game.
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>/v/ can discuss undertale again

What a time to be alive
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Yeah, but here's the thing...
YOU'RE BLUE NOW!
THAT'S MY ATTACK.
NYEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH!
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>>377274627
I know that feel.

I swear to god I had this great idea for a game about these two skeletons. Pic related were their designs.

Then undertale came out and boom, a tall red skeleton and a short blue skeleton. Now everyone would say I ripped off undertale.

The struggles of being an ideafag
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>>377302496
Those are pretty cool designs, anon. Reminds me of an art mixture of the 5th Gen Pokemon sprites and Yugioh.
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>>377302389
>Drums kick in
I was unsure about Undertale before then, enjoying it but not hugely charmed. But then Papyrus showed himself to not be just an ordinary comic relief. It was honestly pretty intense and engaging.
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>>377302637
Thanks anon. I design monsters all the time. Always wanted to make an RPG
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I love %playername%!
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>>377278382
The real disapointment for me with flowey, was that the health bar wasn't truly representative of the amount of hits/ remaining health you had.
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>>377302496
Reverse their colors, or invert it. So long as the personalities aren't too close people won't mind. Kids will still make crossover art, but that could honestly bring in more interest.

>>377302782
The whale is pretty cool.
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>>377302814
*You are a great partner.
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>>377302782
Looks like a pokemon game.
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>>377302756
>>377302389
>that ever-rising pile of bones
>"COOL DUDE"
I pity whoever got spoiled on Undertale by its cancerous fanbase. It had some genuinely fun(ny) moments
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>>377302814
*You are a great partner.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC-yGc8WQfc

For a mediocre AU this is a decent fan-battle. Not great, but has some good moments.
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>>377268571
the perfect example of a non replayable
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>>377268639
There is no shame in it, undertale is genuine good, too bad its fans are complete shits
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>>377289747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdq0rMrqaYw
That fleshy flower fuck can drop a beat
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>>377301054
And you're going to give up just because someone told you to?
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>>377303090
The entire game is meant to be replayable you dumb cunt. Even with the genocide ending you can still go back and see new details/find different inside jokes you missed in earlier playthroughs.
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>>377302389
>that bone with tits
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>>377303427
Those were sunglasses, anon
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>>377296392
This track always sounds like a mix of [early] Phoenix Wright games and Mario Kart. It's so fucking cool.
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>>377269860
Kind of. Monsters are actually pretty strong, except they're vulnerable to intent to kill, which humans have plenty of.
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Good game with the second worst fandom ever.
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>>377268571
Spider chick was more challenging. I only played through as true pacifist, so I never fought Sans.
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I was honestly expecting Asgore porn in this thread
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Postan a comic
Also this girl has a weird headcanon where Frisk is blind, not that I mind.
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>>377304112
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>>377304176
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>>377296392
>you get to fight Robo David Bowie
Unf
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>>377304112
Sans is too popular, the fandom only likes him because

>le wacky lazy skeleton with blue eye!! xddd

Other characters need some publicity too you know
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>>377304241
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>>377268571
Thats not Undyne the Undying
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>>377304292
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>>377304112
Looks like a horror comic but turns out to be tumblr bullshit.

Waste desu.
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>>377304286
Sans being popular makes way too much sense though.

He's a funny character with an edgy side and his fight was surprisingly difficult.

I'm glad you posted regular Sans directly for the game and not fanart though. I'm sick of seeing fanmade alternate universes Sans-es everywhere. It's disgusting and such a rape of character like the trolls in Homosuck.

Sans is such a good character, he doesn't deserve that shit.
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>>377288228
Honestly those are all reasons I like the boss.
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>>377304478
>Looks like a horror comic but turns out to be tumblr bullshit.

...

Just like Undertale then.
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>>377297254
Can't say I didn't do the same thing, at least for one round against him.

Decided to fight him afterward and just ruin the pacifist run/reload afterward depending on what it let me do.
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>>377286018
I think Undertale is a great game and the Sans fight is the best moment. It pushes the theme of determination to its natural conclusion. Due to the nature of the fight you will lose a lot of times, it's just too fast and crazy for anyone outside of shmup gods beat in less than 10-20 tries, but since he does the exact same thing every time, every single person is capable of beating him through pure memorization and pattern recognition.

He's the only boss that takes nothing but pure determination to defeat. I think that's great and is so appropriate for "real final boss".

Asgore is an amazing fight and was my favorite moment of my first playthrough, since I went pacifist first. But the Sans fight really pushed the theme of the game to a whole new level for me. Plus Sans mocking me with how many times he had killed me was great.

That's just my 2 cents on it.

Megalovania is also my favorite track in the game.
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>>377281775
I sense the gay
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>>377304271
Basically how I got some friends to give it a shot.
>"It's probably the only game where you have a dance-off with a robot glam rocker"
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>>377303089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmIDkiFO4vg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-tM_MhC--o

My guilty pleasures
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>>377303158
That fanbase, I swear undertale is their first RPG they have ever played

>Checking random stream on persona 5 to see if the gameplay is any good
>Player goes into the negotiate phase with the monster
>Someone in chat "Why did they steal this from Undertale?"
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>>377305761
It's a fanfictiony AU, but this is my favorite Chara fight. Creator hangs out on 4chan sometimes too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=786bb0vGdJM
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>>377305761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC-yGc8WQfc

Best fan made animation I've seen by far
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>>377306080
>he seems upsetti
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>>377306080
>that part when he drops to his knees crying and you try to kill him just to block you
Surprisingly great
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fuck off with your terrible tumblr game
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>>377306051
Has a decent dub by someone over in /utg/.

https://soundcloud.com/lumisau/best-friends-forever-dreemurr-reborn
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How many tries did it took you guys to beat sans ?
~60 pleb here
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>>377301757
Thats a problem with the genocide route.
Everything after the Sans fight is garbage that shouldnt be there.
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>>377274627
Just focus on making an actual good game. Don't worry about being "unique" or "original".
Everything has been done a million times already.
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Sans' theme is more hype
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>>377274627
Undertale wasn't remotely the first game to do any of that stuff (Planescape, Eternal Darkness, Mother series, System Shock 2, plenty of other games I'm not thinking of that mess with genre/narrative conventions). Just make your game. If you're waiting around to make something completely original that has never been done before you will never make anything at all.
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>>377306080
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>>377307015
He beat me enough times to activate my rage
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>>377307015
Probably about the same, but I had fun the whole time. That fight is one of my favorite gaming moments. Second favorite boss fight of all time after Liquid Ocelot from mgs4.
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>>377302389
That was such an amazing set up

>Attacks completely whiff you
>Easy as fuck
>Papyrus getting flustered over flirting
>DING
>Single tiny bone hits you
>You're blue now
>Drums kick in
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>>377281458
>people missing out on a good portion of the game because they're too pussy to kill their fictional friends
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>>377310120
Bonetrousle was such a great fucking song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqzBv3FYpr0

That and Heartache are the best boss themes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v712NiVK5uY
Best area theme
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>>377281458
You can at least play the sans fight in your internet browser

https://jcw87.github.io/c2-sans-fight/
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>>377302814
>ifunny
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You have to go back

This game had decent discussion for a week or so after launch and then it became tumblr
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>>377305867
That must be facetious.
It must be.
It has to be...
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>>377281458
I don't want to play it because it's such a literal grind to get to the actual good parts.
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>>377314112
That's exactly what the game wants you to think anon.
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>>377314112
Its not even a proper grind.
Starts with like 10 enemies in a zone and I think it caps out at 50?
Thats nothing.
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>>377268571
Asgore and Undyne the Undying are objectively the best fights with the best themes.
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Wow, an Undertale thread with minimum shitposting and people discussing the game. First time I've ever seen this.

ASGORE fight a best, the Asriel fight was only okay because of the music, having a remix of the main theme in a final boss fight gets me hard.
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I still think that the best moment in the game is netural Undyne dying moments. It is literally "unwinnable fight" trope, but from the other side and done greatly.
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Undyne the undying > Asgore > Sans > Mettaton > Omega Flowey > Muffet

Worst boss fight in the game is Toriels by far
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>>377268571
Because people don't understand that hard doesn't mean better. I blame stuff like Dark Souls
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Where is the love for spider dance, aka best song?
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>>377317096
Your mom doesn't seem to agree lmaaoo~
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>>377317142
Best boss fight song. Undertale is the best overall song.
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Is Undertale the master of leitmotifs or is Toby just lazy?
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>>377318354
I really like how a lot of the tracks are related to each other, they're different enough that it works.
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>>377318818
>But Nobody Came is Your Best Friend slowed down 2000%
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>>377318354
yes
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>>377315997
Shitposters eventually move on to the next most popular thing, unless they have full-blown 'tism.
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>>377297362
needs an edit of asgore shattering a (You)
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>>377318354
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Toby might me sick of Undertale right now, but there's still a chance he could come back to it in a few years. Hard mode with added scenes and dialogue is all I ask for.
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>>377281458
Souless pacifist is the real true ending Anon, you're missing the best part of the game by not reaching it
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>>377299634
>>>/trash/
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>>377318354
Leitmotifs are amazing when used right. And the way Toby forced them to be noticeable is actually good, because there are a lot of games with nobody being aware of leitmotifs.
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>>377277064
For some reason i can't see her face.
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I want to sex this fish and her girlfriend
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>>377319093
>>377319812
King Asgore "Come explore and you're done for" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Homo is no mo'" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Give the lass some gas" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Going blitz on the kids" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Into the showers those who land on flowers" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Six children was not enough" Dreemurrr
King Asgore "Fall through the hole I'll take your soul" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Time to shit on a kid" Dreemurr
King Asgore "I don't need consent for my trident" Dreemurr
King Asgore "No mercy from my fur, see?" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Get smacked while choosing Act" Dreemurr
King Asgore "I'm going Spare alright" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Cyanide for Monster Pride" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Six kids, six-feet-under" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Son of man into the frying pan" Dreemurr
King Asgore "After you've scrubbed all the floors in New Home" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Put the yellow skin in the bin" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Spear the Queer" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Out of the womb, into the tomb" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Going Wild on a Small Child" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Eat The Pie Then You Die" Dreemurr
King Asgore "That Tyke is a Stupid kike" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Throw that human whore into the core" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Blonde hair, white fur and blue eyes" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Termination of Determination" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Unpunished as a gardener in Argentina" Dreemurr
King Asgore "When They Hit the Flowers, They're Dead in Hours" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Youthanizer" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Toddler Tenderizer" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Halfpint Holocauster" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Human Hater" Dreemurr
King Asgore "Did nothing wrong" Dreemurr
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>>377322416
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>>377322723
huh?
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>>377322416
too bad im into bad boys
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>>377275905
No gameplay is most important, music simply makes the game and certain moments in the game memorable.
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>>377282254
That's fucking ridiculous. And to think the creator of the OST was some dweeby faggot living in Andre Hussies basement.
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Remember the demo threads?
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>>377303774
Who's the worst then?
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>>377324963
they were the best, goatmom is still the best waifu
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>>377286018

Hit the nail on the head.

Sans is just an application of le low ranking strong man cliche.
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>>377325257
I have found mah nigga
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>>377302782
I'd play an RPG featuring enemies like these. Cool shit mang.
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>>377324963
Yes, and I always think it's entertaining when history revisionists try to claim that there wasn't an interest in Undertale on /v/ prior to release and that we didn't have weekly goatmom threads.
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>>377326053
You can always tell when its a newfag talking out their ass.

hey, remember when that one autist tried getting rid of the threads by actually spending his money on scat porn commissions so he could spam the threads? Fun times.
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>>377302782
Well what's stopping you? Just go do it! It won't be easy, but it will be worth it in the end.
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>>377302496
Shwig?
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Imagine if Asgore's battle was over the top and like Armstrong from MGRR

Asgore grabbing a building from the fucking ground and throwing it at the player

"Ready or not, Frisk, Here we go!"
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>>377326830
Anon, quit beating around the bush

You just wanna see a half naked, super muscular goat man looming over you
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>>377326830
i always imagined asgore more like some sort of Souls boss, a king forgotten by his people and deprived of his family
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>>377327035
That's LITERALLY the boss battle
https://youtu.be/mALkd3DG6HA?t=29m30s

also there's plenty of Asgore R34 that I may or may not have saved already
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>>377302782
>>377326652
This guy gets it. All it takes is a little
D E T E R M I N A T I O N
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>>377327486
Ah fuck, I didn't think about that. they actually make tons of sense, since Asgore is the last line of defence
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>>377327486
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>>377328960
There is something inherently funny about seeing asgore as a withered old man
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Did you guys know that Muffet is reason that there's open way to the Core in Genocide route?
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>>377328960
Why does Toriel looks so pleased with herself?
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>>377329245
Muffet and So Sorry

Two different tales about how backer-reward characters can either go right or horribly, horribly wrong.
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>>377330056
It's hard to wipe away that smile
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>>377307015
I'm former touhou fag who is now a gm rank genji, I didn't even think anything of it.
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>>377274627

The good old mix everything, E.Y.E levels of nonsense and cryptic dialogue and bad translations, Undertale quantities of game to player interaction and personally I would add Hotline Miami style nihilism, but thats just me.

People love trying to make something out of nothing when its videogame lore, just look at the shitload of Dark Souls lore youtube vídeos, story wise nothing could be more convoluted and grab everyone by the autism than mixing those things.
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Thoughts on Gaster?
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>>377269017
https://nhentai.net/g/192565/
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>>377331216
Cute image partner but it has few errors
But since I am such nice guy I fixed it for you
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>>377331812
>What, what'd he do to the-

oh you cheeky little bastard
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>chill thread talking about the actual game until the brain dead Toriel furfags got here and started shitting the place up
lol
Toriel as shit and worse waifu in the game. Undyne is so much better in every single way its not even funny
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>>377332196
pretty much this

>tfw no over the top warrior
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>>377332553
We've kinda been posting her and been talking about the game, ya silly willy.

Also, no hate on fishtits, but what have you against a little MILF every here and there?
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>>377332762
>but what have you against a little MILF every here and there?
She never fights you seriously
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>>377332762
Shes my least favorite character. Some of her fans are okay although they spam lewd shit too much
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>>377333046
While I don;t entirely agree with you , I don't entirely disagree.

here, have some feesh

>>377333135
I think that's mostly because she got ahead start on it, what with her being in the demo and all.

And beside "we prefer older women" is kind of always at play here, regardless of who that older woman is.
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>296 posts and 71 image replies omitted.

wow /v/ holy shit
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>That porn comic by TheWill

I don't care about jap porn or doujins when nothing will ever top that.
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>>377334329
What was it about?

Because there's this doujin with Alphys, Undyne and Toriel that may be one of the best I've ever laid eyes on.
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>>377307015
jesus, 60? i only got to 14
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>>377296392

Post your fucking face when you get a HUGE rating boost for posing with little health left as opposed to normally

>Mfw that battle was intense as fuck in normal mode
>out of items, getting hit here and there
>Ratings ALMOST THERE, but not quite
>Metattron out of both legs and arms
>Fuck if I don't kill him I'm gonna have to restart without items, is this it?
>gets hit again
>Oh shit
>1 HP left
>Fuck it, let's go
>Pose
>special dialogue for doing it with one health
>WIN
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>>377334530
I'm gonna need you to tell me more
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>>377328960
>>377327486
cross-over?
>>377329049
That's weird desu
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>>377334698
I wish I could tell you where to find it.

All I can tell you is that Undyne is a first timer and wants to make sure she can make Alphys feel good. She goes to Toriel for advice, and before long, Alphys shows up and Toriel opts to show them both the ropes.
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ESSAY PROMPT:

what do you love most about mettaton ? (no x or z)
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>>377335573
D
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>>377335573
COCK
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>>377335000
just search "undertale bloodborne" and you'l find it, theres an au for everything at this point
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>>377268571
under(age)tale please leave
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>>377299203
>Floweys Crash
Just Rip out somepages from the book and leave like 5 blank pages
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>>377302782
your the same guy from /adgd/ months ago did you even start?
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>>377335739
I personally like Charataker
It didn't turn into shit yet
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>>377302782
>litearally shitty pokemon
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>>377335762
why did you even come to this thread
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>>377322416
>King Asgore "Out of the womb, into the tomb" Dreemurr

Always going to be my favorite.
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>>377331610
Fandom shit.

Doesn't exist in the game. At all.
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>>377336469
Some people got the aut anon. Go easy on him
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>>377328960
What do you mean anon? That is obviously Nocturne.
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I think my favorite part of the game was how uplifting it was.
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>>377336353
i like zombietale, because the charactors behave as they should and its not just full of edge
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>>377289747
>decent AU's
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I WAITED SO LONG TO POST THIS
http://superkingnicolas.deviantart.com/art/Longer-Than-You-Parody-of-the-Undertale-version-586320156
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>>377336996
Not him, but I always liked those ones where they swapped character's roles.

If only from a design standpoint.
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Did
Nothing
Wrong
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>>377337132
>But virgins like you won't fuck by the rules,
>And guys like me,
>it ain't easy to be jerked like fools,
>So let's grind, let my dick get bigger...

>Let's fuck, DIRTY RAPIST KILLER.
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>>377274627
just make shit up as you go along until your game is so weird it can't possibly be a ripoff of anything
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>>377337132
>I know you're filled, with my
>Cu-u-u-u-uuumm, Cu-u-u-u-uuumm, Cu-u-u-u-uuumm. (x2)
isn't the human supposed to be like 7 years old?
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>>377337293
Don't ruin this thread with such shit tier bait. It just makes actual fans of Asgore look bad.
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>>377337132
>I know you tasted all my friends you queer,
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>>377268571
I just want to fuck dadgoat.
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>>377337293
I wish I could see more Kelly edits
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>>377337132
this is gold
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>>377337141
What the fuck is that Undyne

What the fuck is that Alphys
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>>377318354
>is Toby just lazy?
Sometimes. Im mean, its doesnt make sense to me to put a speed-up ruins in the undyne theme and remixing the gosth theme for the spider fight.
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>one of his attacks was cut because most playtesters found it too difficult to dodge, plus it was also too hard to animate.
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>>377339458
>tfw masturbating to muffet with spider song stuck in the head
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>>377339569
is that a real sprite? holy shit
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>>377336957
>zombietale
Man it's actually pretty good
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>>377283203
I disagree about stories being uncomplicated contributing to a game being good.

Feel like well-executed complex stories can offer a fair bit extra than well-executed uncomplicated ones.

That said you're right that it has a decent impact on popularity.
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>>377286018
>N-no you don't understand the Sans fight was MEANT to feel unrewarding and unfun because KILLING IS BAD
Game was pretty comfy in pacifist, but he went WAY overboard in making the Genocide run as unfun as possible.
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>>377339673
Its from the art book.
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Is there some Toriel goat mom NTR Netorare Rule34 out there?
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>>377340038
I actually did genocide legit only once if we consider alt tabbing legit
All other times I just used cheat engine for instant encounters
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>>377340184
Heart eye Asgore a cute
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>>377307015
I gave up out of frustration and just youtubed the ending
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>>377305209
>cucking Goatdad
yeah just keep making him suffer while LE WACKY SKELETON gets a fucking ship. Fuck Tumblr.
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>>377340038
there is nothing more rewarding in the game than the sans fight.
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>>377341489
This

I am in full support of their remarriage.
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>>377268571
Stop drawing Asgore as fat
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>>377341903
But Asgore is fat.
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>>377268571
This Dindu jackass and his segment of the game is objectively the only good part of the game.
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>>377273343
> that the more times he kills you, the more, and more it become a burden for Asgore to continue onward,

Except that makes no sense because Asgore doesn't know that time is resetting
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>>377342114
Hes plump.
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>>377285183
is this loss?
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Why is Undyne so perfect?
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https://youtu.be/6-2RYWCJmos?t=2m28s

my name is not important
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>>377344062
Is this skeleton one with vehicles or the other one
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>what could have been
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>>377344772
>asgore would've been an edgemaster
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>>377344772
Is there a PDF download of that book somewhere.
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Ah, I changed my mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7bgLkdEFAE

Finale kicking in is the best part of the soundtrack.
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>>377345142
Try this
https://mega.nz/#!o0I2BYTR!pUdtU3S6xvoa5ETwCBMsyP1guSiY_RWU22a4L41DqRw
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What did Toby mean by this?
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>>377269939
It's practically Toby's main audience. They love RPG Maker'ish games, and Undertale is unironically probably one of the better ones in a while. Nips also love them some Lisa, so all is well.
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>>377324963

>demo threads
>jumped into the threads because people kept posting porn
>slowly drift off between the years
>suddenly its already at the end of 2015 and the game just pops up on steam, didn't even think about it up until then
>it's already been almost 2 years since game release even

holy shit I hate the passage of time
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>>377340184
>top left
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>>377324286
Although gameplay is the most important part of a game, it doesn't add much to the overall presentation of a game.
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>>377345629
alright, undertale came out in fucking 2015 and theres been no teasers or anything there's no way toby is still working on this gaster trash
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>>377342498
He's a huge daddy.
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>>377345423
Thank ye kindly.
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>>377271028
>>377273343
>>377273803
How do you actually beat the asshole? I have a hard time dodging his attacks. I'd need a lot more damage resistance to even be able to kill him, let alone figure out how to spare him when the only option that gets the fight closer to ending is to Attack relentlessly. Someone told me to grind for the Temmie Armor but enemies don't spawn anywhere anymore so I'm stuck earning money painfully slowly buying & selling at Temmie's shop. The grind is so bad I quit the game over it. Can I edit the save file for the money, or will Rusemaster Toby fuck my shit up if I do?
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>>377346565
i haven't played in like over a year but isn't dog residue free infinite money?
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>>377346565
You just have to git gud.
Talking to Asgore for a few turns will eventually reduce his stats, but you can reduce them further by also eating the Pie, assuming you still have it.
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>>377344183

other one
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>>377346385
it has to be one of three options

>he is working on something and didn't want to spoil it
>he isn't working on anything but he spoiled it anyway to be a jerk
>doesn't mean anything at all, he just added it to troll fans
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How is this thread actually good? I don't think I've seen a decent Undertale thread since it became popular and the fanbase exploded
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>>377345694
Having worked with GameMaker, it blows my mind that games like Undertale, Iji, Risk of Rain, Gunpoint, and all these other technically polished games are made in it. You have to REALLY know what you're doing to make something that's not clunky and shallow.

>>377346791
Yes, but still so slow. You need thousands to send Temmie to college, then thousands more to buy the armor.

>>377346912
>but you can reduce them further by also eating the Pie
Well fuck. Mettaton EX was hard okay?
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>>377306051
>tfw I unironically love this fight and the fanfictiony lore built around it.
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>>377269767
Completely agree
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>>377305867
It's kind of a meme at this point to say everything was copied from Undertale. Kind of like "Is this a JoJo reference?"
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>>377268571
Asgore is unironically one of my favorite boss fights and favorite boss songs in all of existence.

Something about him smashing the Mercy button just really was awesome. Much like Toriel, I thought if I persisted enough, I wouldn't have to fight him. I died 60 times to him before realizing that you actually have to fight him.
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>>377285000

>From the guy who worked on homestuck

There's your answer.
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>>377326053
>>377325257
>>377325603
Being a child is flirting with goat mom.
Being an adult is supporting TorielxAsgore.
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>>377347954

Part of it was the rollercoaster of buildup he got. Toriel tells you he's a monster out for your soul, then Snowdin and Papy talk about him being basically butter, you find out Undyne's only as good as she is because of him, and when you finally get there, you don't find some magnificent creature.

You find a man. A man who's had to live with the weight of his decisions and the grief within him for years on end. And you're either his way out or his way forward.
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>>377331221
>gm rank genji
lmao you can't brag about this shit
i'm gm too but let's be honest here, competitive overwatch is a fucking joke
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>>377306706
That...was actually pretty good. I wasn't feeling Chara's voice at first, but by the end I was fucking watery eyed listening to him beg for Asriel's death.
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>>377348201
I don't like Toriel
I don't support Toriel x Asgore
but I do want to flirt with goat dad


What does that make me?
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>>377348201

>Implying Asgore x Alphys aren't the cutest pair of dorks
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>>377348201
torielxasgore is ironically actually also childish.
its like a sad little child wanting their divorced parents to get back together.
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>>377349502
I don't know anon. What DOES that make you?
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>>377350215
It makes me a faggot desu
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Wow, this is an incredibly peaceful thread. Everybody's gone back to gushing about the game.

Guess I'll do it a bit too. One thing I really dawn appreciated about the game was that it acknowledges the player's efforts and cleverness.

The game is fucking full of hah, I thought you'd try that moments by Toby which really makes it feel engaging. Where you find little nods and secrets everywhere and even when you keep looking you find more. Not like most games where it just turns out to be nothing.

A minor one was beating Mettaton's tile puzzle. Pointless overall, but it was truly possible rather than a flat inescapable deathtrap.
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>>377301054
The game also tells you that talking is useless with toriel too
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>>377351074
>that Alphys genocide fan fight where you have to solve the tile puzzle multiple times
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>>377351225
>Alphys NEO in general
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>undertale thread that isn't a massive flamewar

is this real ?
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>>377332034
I dont see it.
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>>377352185
Maybe moderation has actually improved in weeding out parroting shitposters.

Or at least we can hope
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>>377352353
Open both images in a new tab
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>>377352353
I don't know what hes talking about but they edited Toriel's eyes to be red. Still looks like shit because of the beach ball sized boobs but whatever
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>>377352185
Maybe the underage shitposters are too busy playing with Fidget Spinners to notice they aren't shitposting.
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>>377352454
ss2sonic may not be the best but come on, there's nothing wrong with the tiddy
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>>377335573
his plump ass in those tight spanx leggings
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>>377352845
All good things come in moderation. If you go too large then the titties get shitty
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>>377352185
It's been 2 years, the fanbase has died down, and with that there's less people jumping on the hate bandwagon because of the fans. It's like FNAF.
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>>377353017
For me, it's not about size, but shape

Whether they're small or big, they're fine by me as long as it's not man chest of beach balls. Long as small ones have perk and big ones have gravity, all is well.
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>The wind is howling
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>>377353349
Genocide might be painful, but shit, I'll be damned if it didn't bring the best out of everyone
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>>377353432
>I'll be damned if it didn't bring the best out of everyone
Except Toriel, Flowey, Asgore and Mettaton
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>>377353093
>hate bandwagon
What hate bandwagon? The only bandwagonning going on is by the furries posting right now.
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>>377306706
Fuck.
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>>377353482
>Flowey
But it does
His ultimate role i being a cute and useless sidekick
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>>377268905
man i havent touched this game in months, forgot how much i liked this song
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>It's already been two years
the fuck
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>>377268571
I understand that he's supposed to be hanging his head in shame, but i still can't tell what the fuck I'm looking at. At first I assumed it was a helmet with a visor cut out.
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>>377349636
Asgore x Undyne is based
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>>377353349
>the black wind howls
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>>377353689
>>377353752
oh shit youre right, it has been way longer than just a few months
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>>377353852
>>377349636
I remember someone making a brief fic where Undyne wants to cheer Alphys up by offering to have a threesome with Asgore, who though reluctant, accepts the offer. Steamy lizard ahegao ensues
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>>377354027
Sauce
>>
any good asgore doujins
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>>377274627
Here's the secret to making a game that people won't be mad at you for:

MAKE IT FUCKING GOOD

Just make a good fucking game, I swear to god it doesn't matter if you break expectations or anything, if you just make the combat enjoyable you'll be fine. As much as people talk about all the meta shit that undertale does, it's biggest strength was that the combat was completely engaging, and while at it's core was still a turn based battle, the schmup dodge mechanic and the talking mercy mechanic helped to give players more options and GAMEPLAY choices to make during what would normally be a menu.

Seriously, just make an RPG half as fun as Superstar Saga and you'll be a legend.
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>>377354027
>>377354087
its a shitty greentext style thing but
https://pastebin.com/XqV91a7Y
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>>377354127

GoatDad is not for lewd.
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>>377354323
I'd make him forget about his wife

with my dick
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>>377354287
Oh lame
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>an actual Undertale thread without the shitposting
so comfy
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Literally the only attractive thing to come out of this game if you're not gay

prove me wrong
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>>377354832
too bad she's gay as fuck
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>>377268571
Depends on definition of best.
For many youngins they liked Sans the best because edge, probably didn't actually play Genocide route.

For people who did play it, he was the hardest boss, and fun to overcome. Undying is also a very fun boss for the same reason. These are probably the same people wanting a hard mode.

Those two groups make up the majority. There are other people who care more about characters and story when it comes to battles, and all have their own favorites.
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>>377354942
Hey, her partner's pretty openly bicurious, there's still a chance.
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>>377302496
>want to make game
>showed the main character on /v/
>people kept making flowey/frisk comparisons
wish my art was as good as yours tho
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>>377354942
Undyne\Asgore\Alphys threesome when?

Alphys is canon bisexual
Undyne kinda has a thing with Agore (Mainly since Asgore helped train Undyne and she looks up to him)
Asgore is single

D O
I T
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>>377355276
I like Asgore as a dad to Undyne more
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>>377355320
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>>377336678
Not anymore, anyway.
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>>377355445
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>>377274627
You want to really break expectations? Make a pretty normal rpg maker game.
Then just through in full on sex scenes like it's an rpg maker porn game without saying anything about it and never acknowledge it.
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>>377355638
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>>377355445
>>377355638
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When Undertale was good, it was amazing, but it lacked in content. That's definitely expected for an indie game so I don't hold it against him but it really could have used a bit more effort in certain areas, particularly the puzzles and the "dungeons" between areas. It's particularly noticeable in genocide route where everything but the bosses is fucking garbage. Now that Undertale was so successful, I wish he would go back and flesh out some of these areas but since he already made his money I guess he doesn't care.
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>>377355638
Cute
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>>377336678
http://undertale.wikia.com/wiki/W._D._Gaster
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>>377355638
Asgore has cute paws
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>>377274750
Oneshot was literally unfinished garbage with arbitrary 2deep4u shit that you couldn't even think about or theorycraft because the answers obviously existed they just weren't in the game yet.
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>>377355986
I thought the same thing
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I wonder if the Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra will ever do an Undertale Suite

Their Megaman one was on fucking point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdVpJfXXoFI
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>>377354323
>GoatDad is not for lewd.

His wife disagreed at least once.
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>>377274627
Just do what Undertale was supposed to do originally and have it alter files on your computer and actually change outcomes based on reloading and shit. The reason the UT demo did that and the final game didn't was because the new version of Game Maker he switched to in between doesn't let you interact with files like that outside of its sandbox.
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>>377355719
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4YsbbkiEcE
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>>377356465
Knowing how goats are, neither of them must have had much sleep during their marriage.
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>>377353432
ONE MORE DEATH REJECTED
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>>377357036
I certainly wouldn't get much sleep if I was with Asgore in the same bed at nights
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>>377293101
>apparently it isnt according to a couple of random japs and their nobody streamers
fixed
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>>377357183
Same here, but with Toriel
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>>377330626
I'm still surprised people ended up discoreving him so quickly, considering how much the game asks just to make the dumb thing appear.
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>>377329245
Why? Are you assuming the web on the floor is a bridge?
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when the fuck is Hard Mode?
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>>377356318
Thats a handsome Goatdad
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>>377357995
>when the fuck is Hard Mode?
never
ever
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>>377358279
>still no Hard Mode
>still no Annoying Dog Fight
>still no Alarm Clock App
>still no Comic
>still can't have a robot husband
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>>377355872
>tfw love seeing doggo plumped up
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>>377287687
First phase was the only decent part, when he went into his new form it just got dull and blatantly unloseable. He should have done less with ripping off Earthbound and making you repeatedly tap the same command over and over and done more with using UI elements and your heart to beat him.
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>>377358353
>Annoying Dog Fight
He just deletes you and wins
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>>377289685
I earned that cinematic trash.
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>>377268571
I never really understood the narrative of this game. Why is self defense wrong?
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>mfw You're blue now.
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>>377358635
Apparently its because someone as dumb as you are shouldn't be allowed to continue their genes
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>>377358635
It's not. Nobody reprimands you for killing anybody (except Papyrus, for obvious reasons), unless you go out of your way to genocide the whole Underground.
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>>377358739
More neutral I would say.
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>>377358635
>>377358742

No it's
>When your bae hit you it mean he love you
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>>377293101
For whatever reason Japs really liked LISA too.
Japs love RPGmaker shit and LISA tops a lot of Jap polls for being among the best.
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>>377358635
Because you canonically have the ability to restart as much as you want, death is of no consequence to you. If you can theoretically end every potential conflict peacefully, Sans argues that you are morally obligated to do so because it would be murder to do otherwise. The game doesn't force you to accept this because you can choose to murder everybody if you want, but it does force you to commit to that decision by making the game "unplayable" after that.

The whole morality thing is specifically and explicitly in the context of the world being a video game and is not meant to be applied to the real world. Asriel even tells you as much.
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>>377302496
That actually looks cool I especially love the blue one would love to play as it
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>>377358742
No, the game's narrative is done poorly. The whole "humans are stronger" or "you're immortal" excuses don't even work because you don't know these things going into the game. You don't learn that humans are objectively stronger until the second area. From the perspective of Frisk or a blind player, you wouldn't even know you're immortal unless you died. That's without considering the fact that the monsters are let onto the surface at the end of the pacifist run for no good reason, even though Asgore and Undyne are literal child murderers.

>>377358853
You're not reprimanded but Sans literally says you have execution points and a level of violence if you do so much as to kill a single monster in self defense.
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>>377293101
you're wrong. the much more hardcore/otaku japs didn't like undertale because they thought it tried too hard to be japanese and came off like a white person pretending to be naruto, but undertale was pretty big among normal gamers in japan.
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>>377359075
This

In the UT universe, it makes perfect sens, and it goes out of its way to say that it will not work IRL
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>>377359247
Look i'm sorry that the game made you feel bad for acting like a dick but do you have to always come in these threads and whine about it? No one cares. You have the option to kill them all if you want, don't be shocked when some monsters don't like the fact that you're killing all their friends even if it was in self defense. I'm sure you wouldn't be happy if half of the local population of your city including your family and friends got wiped out even if they had it coming
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>>377274627
>wants to make an RPG
>hasnt played many RPGs
>most likelly thinks UT is an RPG
>most likelly thinks JRPG and RPG are the same thing
>being inspired by UT of all the games that exist

kill yourself memester, this is an art medium.

if your shitty game gets called an UT ripoff is because its one.
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>>377359075
>death is of no consequence to you.
Frisk does not know that unless he gets killed.

>If you can theoretically end every potential conflict peacefully, Sans argues that you are morally obligated to do so because it would be murder to do otherwise.
But that's shown to be false within the game itself. Undyne does not let up in her attempts to kill you. She only stops because she can't chase you any further. Mercy does nothing. Hell, to even do the pacifist run you're forced to attack Asgore and get his health low. There's no guarantee he'd even survive that encounter, so why are you forced to do that? The only reason you don't kill him is pure plot convenience.
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>>377337141
>He saved this image to his hard drive
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>>377337495
So, OFF?
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>>377268571
Sans fight was more fun because of the deconstruction factor. Asgore's fight was more fun from a story perspective. I liked the way Asgore didn't make eye contact with you. It conveyed just how much he did NOT want to kill you
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>>377268571
Why does asgore have that shit-eating grin
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>>377359480
>Game gets endlessly praised for integrating its narrative in with its gameplay
>point out flaws with the narrative of a video game on a video game board
>Waaah stop whining you dick
Are you going to say I'm entitled next?
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>>377359941
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hOy I'm Temmi
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>>377359570
Oh, he could do worse.

So much worse
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>Finally get home
>Thread is now free-falling towards page 10
Come on man.
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>>377271028
NO MERCY
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>>377360525
bump limit
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>>377360525
It was pretty sweet while we had it. Not every day when you can post a well known game and not have it be 400% shitposts
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>>377360616
Mmm hmm.
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>>377360782
But isnt Ice Wolf closer in body to Asgore than Doggo?
Your tastes arent consistent.
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>>377360501
Holy shit I never realized this image was never posted
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>>377360913
I enjoy multiple body shapes and don't just base how much I like a character or want to bone them on physical appearance. Doggo is cuter than Ice Wolf

also here is some Doggo and Ice Wolf porn before the thread dies
https://pastebin.com/1ayYEHrY
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>>377361035
Under no circumstance would I ever save the original
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>>377361107
>don't just base how much I like a character or want to bone them on physical appearance.

What are you, gay?

Also thanks.
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>>377361197
I'm a real fag alright
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>>377359551
I don't get what you're saying. Every conflict CAN be ended peacefully, even if the solution is difficult or contrived. Your power of saving and loading necessitates trying until you succeed or give up. Even being forced to fight and defeat Asgore, you can still opt not to deal the killing blow, and then Flowey comes along to try and show you that not killing someone isn't the same as saving them.

All of this shit is just a meta-commentary about being a completionist and repeatedly trying until you get the result you want (a good ending), and the game toys with you by making the main antagonist aware of your attempts. Flowey antagonizes you as a player directly by sabotaging the sense of security you have in saving and loading and making you feel like it's possible to get stuck permanently and never achieve the best ending.
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>>377361214
fukken sans
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>>377307015
Dunno but it was somewhere around 3-4 hours of trying. If I do it again today it only takes a few tries to finish though, but that's just the nature of it.
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>>377307015
Ornstein and Smough didn't cause me this much grief
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