>ONE YEAR LATER -3 characters -2 stages -a fucking bajillion

>>377257013
Sounds like they're giving the retarded playerbase of this shit game exactly what they want.

>>377257013
It's a fun game, as long as the content keeps flowing at a steady rate I'm not gonna complain

>>377257201
>It's a fun game

But that's wrong you fucking retard. You're having artifical fun.

>>377257013
still updating at least guess it's just a very long term investment

It is pretty funny how slow they put out characters. The primary weapons of Ana, Orisa and Sombra aren't unique or fun to use. I don't know how they are so fucking slow at coming up with characters.
>>377257201
The flow is insanely slow though, unless you want limited skins

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>>377257013
Blizzard doesn't fund their games after release. Look at SC2.
Regardless of what you think about the game, look at how much free shit Splatoon got.

As long as overwatch is one of their most played games, Blizzard has no reason to support shit post release. And if the game failed, they would've excused it as the market not wanting it and given up on it altogether like they did with Starcraft.

Overwatch still doesn't even have fucking replays.

Wow OP
It's almost as if it's easier to add shitty sprays, emotes and skins than it is to add a whole new character, who also needs shitty sprays emotes and skins on top
You must be very clever

>>377257267
>"Stop liking things I don't like (and that I haven't even tried!)

>>377257509
>Blizzard doesn't fund their games after release.

That doesn't make any sense, anon. They've been slow, yes, but they've been funding Overwatch. Multiple new events, charaacters, gametypes, maps, skins, and other assorted items isn't not funding the game.

>>377257013
>Daily OW hate thread

Oh boy here we go. Blizzard are pretty much just one great big marketing team and absolutely no devs or creative designers. I can't remember the last time they produced something heartfelt with good game mechanics.

>>377257357
Because the game is dying and they already have a skeleton crew working on it. They're desperately trying to look for the next genre they can make casual shit for to try and capture "esports"

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I don't think people would be as upset if Blizzard didn't forcefully make Sombra and Orisa as mediocre as possible because of how badly they fucked up with Ana.

>>377257013
>tfw TF2 got more meaningful content in a year

adding more and more characters just creates a barrier to entry for new players. That have to learn what more characters do and it just becomes league/smite tier shit where you have 50 characters and it's retarded.

>>377257509
>look at how much free shit Splatoon got.

That's not a good comparison. Splatoon's free stuff was planned befor ethe game even launched. Same thing with Halo 5, Gears of War 4, Titanfall 2, and a whole lot of other games that offer free content for the months following launch. They do this because games these days get swallowed up and spat out in favor of the next FOTM at alarming rates. By having monthly free content or free updates, it ensures there's something fresh for everyone.

It's much better in the eyes of modern publishers to cut 30%or so of the game and give it back to the community as "free" content now that everyone has turned on DLC and would much rather have RNG lootcrates or packs.

>>377257779
>all those delays artifically building hype for sombra
>becomes an at best niche character who isn't very effective outside her ult
I guess it balances how insane Ana is

>>377257907
That's the whole fucking point of the game. You might as well play COD if you want a newbie friendly game.

>pay for the game once
>guaranteed years worth of free shit
>pay for an EA game once
>have to buy all the dlc, the premium pass, and all the cosmetics

wtf are you whining about exactly? i wish more games do what overwatch is doing

>>377258138
Or y'know... Overwatch.

>>377257509
>Regardless of what you think about the game, look at how much free shit Splatoon got.
Does that include all the "free updates" which were disc-locked content? Because I think when you ignore all that then you get a very small list.

>blaming companies and not the consumers

What's the reason for how common this misunderstanding is? Is it just because the prospect of blaming a group as enormous as "consumers" frustrates you, so you blame the more accessible corporation?

>>377257013
>1 year later
>All maps that don't have a payload are significantly less fun
>Almost all comp King of the Hill goes to round five
>All maps that don't have a payload are 80% space that will only be used for walking back from spawn or hiding
>Dev Team focused on releasing new heroes even though new, more creative maps would make things far more interesting
>BUT
>All maps are functionally identical to maps of the same game type, because they are designed for no heroes to have an edge, even though the player base will inevitably find heroes who just work in those modes better. The differences are not significant enough.
>Next map is already confirmed to be a mode that's already in the game
>All custom games are BOSS FIGHT or NO COOLDOWNS
>I'm still playing because this is the only multiplayer game my friends play

>>377257774
>Because the game is dying

[citation needed]

>>377258205
>wtf are you whining about exactly?
With the amount of revenue Overwatch has received from lootboxes alone the speed at which new content comes out is absurd.

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>>377257013
To be fair, they also added a bunch of new game modes even if three of them were locked behind events. Most of my fps experience before this was Halo so I honestly can't judge by the standard of the medium as a whole, but it feels like a decent amount of content for a shooter.

>>377257013
Friend bought this game for me on PS4, seems pretty fun. Takes forever to get into a game though, are there just not a lot of people playing? I had assumed it was still a pretty popular game, given how much it's talked about all over the place.

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>>377257907
>I want a shooter I can play for dozens to hundreds of hours!
>WHAAAT!!?? I HAVE TO SPEND SOME OF THOSE HOURS... LEARNING!!!???

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>TEN YEARS LATER
-0 characters

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>>377257013
>tfw Siege has added 10 new charecters and 5 new maps

Feels good to know I picked the right game.

>>377257013
>Sprays, skins and emotes are easier to make than characters and maps
Who would have thunkit?

>>377257013
It's almost like sprays, skins and emotes are easier to make than maps and characters....

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>>377258427
>ubisoft

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>>377258369
What modes are you playing? You should be able to regularly get a match in around a minute or two in quick play and comp, maybe faster if you turn off skirmish.

>>377257201
But it's not fun and content is not flowing at a steady rate you fucking retard
It's a shit game with content trickling out slower than my post orgasm leftover cum

>>377257013
On the other hand TF2
>10 years
>nothing
>Valve only acknowledging DOTA 2 a game
Must be hard for you

>>377258053
But Splatoon eventually got second and third waves of content that were designed after the game's official release.

>>377258494
We were just playing quickplay, it was around 4pm Eastern, so maybe that was a bit too early to get a good crowd. It was like 2:30 - 3:30 wait times.

>>377257689
>events
Only two of them were good, Junkenstein and Rising. The rest were shitty lazy minigames that modders could've made in a week if the game had actual support for that.
>characters
There have been 3. Even SF5 has had more than that, and that game is a fucking dumpster fire.
>gametypes
Easy additions that nobody plays
>maps
There were like 2 and who gives a shit about maps
>skins and other items
Wow!

To reiterate again, overwatch doesn't even have replays yet.

Also I don't play WoW but hasn't blizzard been hyping some shitty patch for like 8 months now? Did they even release the necromancer for d3 yet?

>>377257013
NEGATIVE

kinda hard to add to perfection
desu they probably scrapped a few dozen concepts because of their incredibly high standards

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>>377258489
>Blizzard

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>>377257267
> "Artificial fun" is an actual argument now

>>377258548
>But it's not fun
I have fun with it, anon
> content is not flowing at a steady rate you fucking retard
Sure seems to be, 3 more heroes are planned for Year 2 or whatever you want to call it, and I'm sure there's another 1-2 maps in development currently.

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>tfw doomfist comes out and its just a boss in a pve event

>>377258369
I play on PS4 and find instant matches solo or with a stack, longest times are 2 min and that's maybe once a day. Level 373 Platinum queue, try playing comp. Most people play comp.

I'mme be over here playing Palidins, Which is the same shit BTW, just free to play.

>>377258596
All of this is tertiary to the fact that the game is being funded by Blizzard post launch, your opinion of the content that has come out is irrelevant to that fact
>To reiterate again, overwatch doesn't even have replays yet.
Okay? That's not the end all be all for post launch funding.

>>377258825
Well I'm only like level 6 right now, so I won't be playing competitive any time soon

>>377258596
>Also I don't play WoW but hasn't blizzard been hyping some shitty patch for like 8 months now?
Wow has actually seen a steady flow of content, which is surprising considering how they've handled patches in wow in the past

>>377258838
>same shit

It's a fun game unlike Overwatch.

>>377258960
Play Arcade, 3v3 seems like the fastest way to level up and it's pretty fun.

>>377258802
>read did
>get mad
Stop

>>377259116
I'll check that out, thanks.

>>377257267
How is it artificially fun?

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>>377258802
Not gonna lie, I wouldn't mind Doomfist as a Saxton Hale type thing.

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>>377257013
I don't know shit about these "seasons" in games, because Overwatch is the only game that I played that follows this trend.

Compared to other games like SFV, KI, Hitman (I think) and others, it's nothing?
I got the impression that they were doing well, since all of this was free.
I mean, it's free to this day, right?

>>377259206
Do some research, I'm not here to teach you.

>>377259206
>>377258701
Fucking newfags, and they say this board isn't being taken over by Reddit

>>377259246
It's just competitive seasons, like MOBAs, not content seasons.

>>377258596
Maps are pretty important friend, they add variety. The more maps there are the less likely you're going to play the same match again.

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>Healing is very strong
>Reinhardt, D.va, Winston and Orisa create barriers out the ass
>most non-DPS characters do less damage than a single Ana can heal
It's fucking impossible to get a kill outside of a coordinated push unless you're Roadhog. I get that this is a team game, but every high-level game devolves into "deal damage, build ult and hail mary". It's boring.

TF2 was fun because any class could easily get kills. In Overwatch, every game some schmucks are forced to play "le shield man" or "le matrix girl", or one of the equally uninteresting healers. As far as DPS goes, even the knockoff TF2 characters are worse than their original counterparts. Pharah's rockets have no splash damage and don't bounce enemies around. Junkrat's bombs are slow as hell and bounce unpredictably, still doing full damage after hitting the ground (literally made for kids) and Tracer's mosquito bullets and limited vertical movement are much less satisfying than the scout's meaty scattershot.

TLDR; TF2 is better

>>377257013
They're spending more time on balancing the roster instead of expanding it, this is a good thing
>b-b-but the cosmetics!
The balance team is part of the hero and map development team, not the art team, the art team pumping out thousands of cosmetics in no way affects the release of new heroes and maps.

>>377258935
Also none of that event "content" can be done outside of an artificial time window, so who gives a shit
>That's not the end all be all for post launch funding.
It's lacking basic features all FPS and pc games have had for fucking decades

>>377257013
They can't just spit out character after character to feed your low attention span, anon. That's not their fault. The game is built for replay-ability. You shouldn't have to constantly be understanding new heroes and maps getting released every month.

Keep in mind they've also been doing fix after fix, balance after balance, carefully considering player stats and feedback for characters, as well as ever changing/managing competitive as well as doing events.

Honestly who the fuck wants new shit all the fucking time in this game? Adding a hero is a big deal.

>>377259591
>Pharah's rockets have no splash damage and don't bounce enemies around
Are you high? They do both. Junkrat is shit though.

>>377259561
I don't know about MOBAs too, anon, but thank you.
Now I saw >>377258427, if all these things were free, I can see that Overwatch is being shit in this aspect.

>>377258271
>All maps that don't have a payload are 80% space that will only be used for walking back from spawn or hiding

Seems like a silly argument to make about non-payload games.

>>377259725
>Adding a hero is a big deal.
Tell Blizzard that cause apparently they didn't get the memo after Ana.

>>377258427
>5 new maps

UH-OH....
>>377259753
The characters arent free, but you can earn them in game instead of purchasing. The maps however, are free.

>>377259565
I guess if we ignore the fact that 90% of the playerbase will pick the best maps dust 2 and everything else will be forgotten and end up as useless additions.

>>377259672
If that's true then boy are they doing a terrible job at it. The real answer is that they're spending time and effort in making the events, then pumping out cosmetics to go with the events so they can scam people with boxes. I can't really blame them because it's easy money but it sucks as a player who just wants more content in the game.

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>>377258663
>Video games

>>377259906
Literally two others in the space of a year. Both carefully designed as to not disrupt game balance. Maybe even a redesign because they fucked something up.
Imagine having to do that every month or something. And then imagine having to learn the characters every quirks and mechanics. And then imagine how many heroes there would be.

Literally why do we need more?

>>377259301
>>377259367
So you're just a memester with no real argument, gotcha.

This game just needs more maps. Also they need to remove or fix 2 CP.

>>377260045
>Both carefully designed as to not disrupt game balance.
Also both carefully designed to be as boring and mediocre as possible. Orisa is literally just a mishmash of things already in the game and Sombra is just trash.

>>377257907
By that logic you might as well have three characters

>>377257509
>look at how much free shit Splatoon got.
Shame the game launched with no content

>>377259708
Holy shit, are you just blatantly ignoring the argument or are you an actual retard?

>>377260045
Literally literally 2/3 of the "new characters" are bottom tier shit that nobody picks

>>377260151
>Sombra is just trash
I've had tons of fun playing as her. Mechanically interesting for an attack that's not just a "kill everything" ult as well as a new dynamic on gameplay.

>Orisa is literally just a mishmash of things already in the game

This is a bad thing? Soldier: 76 kind of has that too and he's great. A jack of all trades hero sounds good to me.

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>>377259301
> "Only the most refined members of the gaming community are worthy of understanding my arguments"

>>377257013

Why would you want new heroes? Most of you never ever use Sombra or Orisa, you just another hero for you to ignore and abolish from your "meta"

>>377260004
>I skimmed through your post so here's my biased opinion on blizzard that's directly countered by the post I'm replying to

>>377259301
Hi, /pol/!

>>377259727
They were nerfed. you practically have to get a direct hit now.

t. pharah main

>>377260263
Because they're alot newer than other heroes, and a lot of people don't quite understand them. I've used them all quite a fair bit and honestly can't really fault any of them. They're all perfectly eligible choices with new mechanics.

>>377259725
I'm not OP but I don't give a shit about new heros, I want new maps. Learning a new map isn't nearly as hard as learning a new character and how they affect other characters, their matchups etc. and yet they've still released more characters than maps. Why? Wouldn't more maps boost the replayability? Why are you defending a company that would rather nickle and dime you than actually adding to the game?

>>377259367
>projecting

kys desu lad

>>377260208
And overwatch did?
>>377260220
The one where you decided to argue over the semantics of blizzard not funding games post-release like an autist? No I ignored it because it's a retarded argument. Blizzard is fucking notorious for underfunding games post-launch.

>>377258369
I've found out that pairing with someone (specially if there's a big difference between levels) makes searching a game longer than going solo.

>>377260307
>I've had tons of fun playing as her.
Yeah ulting them getting mowed down or babysitting health packs is super fucking fun.

>This is a bad thing? Soldier: 76 kind of has that too and he's great.
Soldier 76 also shits out pinpoint accuracy damage and is highly mobile. Orisa just farts out her shield while slowly lumbering around and spraying and praying. Soldier 76's kit works well together but Orisa's clearly did not have a lot of though put into it besides "oh fuck we have a deadline for a new character, quick throw some shit together."

>>377260523
Interesting. I guess that makes sense, it's trying to pull people from two extremes. I'm not sure exactly what level he is, but he's been playing for months, and I just started today.

>>377259982
>I guess if we ignore the fact that 90% of the playerbase will pick the best maps

In both Quickplay and Comp (which is where most of the playerbase is) you cannot choose what map you play on so you're completely wrong.

>>377259301
> Being able to understand my argument is a privilege

Please jump off a building.

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>>377260036

>live

>>377257013
That's pretty good for a non-f2p game.

>>377260517
>pointing out that Blizzard is funding the game is somehow a retarded argument about semantics

I'll never understand why some people get so triggered by Overwatch. Is it the constant need to be a contrarian or something else?

Any you fags play HoTS?
Is D.Va good in there because every autistc D.Va main is having a bitchfit because they want HoTS D.va in overwatch

>>377257013
>a fucking bajillion and one worthless trash sprays, skins, and emotes
This shit is really easy to make and wouldn't impede development of the other, more impactful additions.

>>377257267
Artificial fun is like artificial boobs. It's not important what kind you have; what's important is that you have it.

Buh But muh D.va chan san.

So far all the new heroes have either busted the meta into cancerous shit (Ana) or generally have not been very good (Sombra, Orisa).

The maps have been alright.

Really I'd rather just see more maps. Hero playstyles grow on you and with them constantly re-balancing stuff changes enough to stay fresh.

The same maps on endless rotation does not remain fresh. I had enough of the same like 3 fucking maps in permanent rotation when I played CS in high school.

>>377260441
I wouldn't say I love Blizzard. I just don't think claims like this are entirely fair.

New maps are also hard work. With so many players and it being such a competitive title, balance is crucial. I think they wanted to roster to start off light to let you get the hang of each nook and cranny in a map and then slowly expand on it, keeping people interested.
Keep in mind that's all free.

>>377260586
>babysitting health packs is super fucking fun.
I mean you play how you want my dude. I usually was able to manage attacking and healing, and maneuvering with her.

>Orisa just farts out her shield while slowly lumbering around and spraying and praying
I would say Orissa is good at countering crowd control tactics while having her own, as well as providing some sort of damage neglector like most tanks do. I don't see what's wrong with that, my dude.

>>377260753
fake tits are garbage and signals insecurity, like hair implants on bald guys

>>377260820
Why do you type like a fucking fag?

>>377260376
You need to learn how to read friend. I'm not only referring to the cosmetics but the actual ingame events. Those map variants and bot AI didn't make themselves. I'm saying they're putting priority on that and then tying the easy to make cosmetics to those events to make money.

>>377260586
Orisa is also kinda ugly, and a gigantic target even after they shrank its gigantic head hitbox.

Orisa's so fucking boring even tumblrfags don't talk about it.

>>377258339
people buy lootboxes? The game fucking shits out the damn things like mad there's no reason to even pay for one.

>>377260897
Why do you insist on insulting me when I'm just trying to talk about something with you, my guy?

Do you just have nothing else to say?

>>377260687
Yeah Blizzard underfunding their games and barely supporting them while releasing skins and bullshit time-gated events is definitely just contrarian opinions, anon.
Is Overwatch your first blizzard game or something? Or do you have stock in the company?

>>377260978
I can't take your opinion seriously because you type like a fucking clown.

>>377260820
>new maps are hard work

I would agree if almost all of them weren't designed around chokepoints.

>>377261015
Well, that sounds like a "you" problem, my friend.

>>377257013
What this game needs is competent players.

Why is it so hard for most players to deal with Pharah? McCree, D.va and 76 maIns, I'm talking to you.

>>377257201
>content keeps flowing at a steady rate
2 or 3 maps in over a year
now that's one hell of a steady rate

>>377260984
The argument wasn't on underfunding the games, and what underfunding means is going to change from person to person anyway. You're just using that as a deflection away from the original argument about how Blizzard doesn't fund their games after release, which is blatantly false.

>>377260820
As much as I love her, Orisa is plain bad at its current state and it's going to get worse. The shield gets destroyed in seconds and the projecrile-based fire doesn't provide enough damage to be a threat (not that it is her main role, but she can't defend herself most of the times).
The lower cooldown on the shield may help once she's patched, but the damage nerf will place her in the troll pick tier.

>>377261063
Mechanically, the game kind of works around this idea. It's what helps keep a defence point. I wonder how much easier it'd be without them honestly, like Hanamura.

>>377257013
>Glad to know where Blizzard's priorities are.
1) Money
2) Money
3) Money
...
9000) Money
9001) Making good games

>>377261174
Well I mean, tanks have never really been the damage dealers, so both of those sound like they're just putting her in her spot. Honestly the only thing that pisses me off with her is the fucking tracking you need to do.

>It's a "People pretend that none of the events they keep having in the game are content" episode.

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>>377257267

>>377261083
If the Pharah has a pocket Mercy it's a bit of a pain to knock her down as Soldier since he got the spread nerf waaaaaaaaay back when. It's still possible but any Pharah worth a damn will land behind a wall, heal up and take off again.

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>>377257267
nice newfag bait

>>377261174
Yeah, unless you are extremely good at leading with her shitty gun basically any hero in the game can 1v1 Orisa just by running at her with the fucking left mouse button held down.

>>377261160
Wow people on 4chan use hyperbole to make a point
Welcome to /v/ kiddo enjoy your stay

>>377259672
>They're spending more time on balancing the roster instead of expanding it, this is a good thing

>overcucks actually believe this
>the game has been on a stagnated tank meta almost since launch.
DUDe
TANKS
LMAO

>>377261369
>i-it's just hyperbole anon! H-he didn't mean it!

Fuck off

Fix this game with 1 patch note

You know what I really like Overwatch and I'm happy with the content updates

I think they have a great game

You're forgetting the events too

We're getting another next week, and I'm betting on us getting a new map too.

>>377258213
Apparently not according to >>377257907

>>377261409
>>the game has been on a stagnated tank meta almost since launch.
Dive comp has been dominating a lot right now, and the tank meta hasn't been the only meta for the game by far.

>>377261498
Mercy can no longer heal pharah in air.

God fucking damn if I see this sht one more fuckign time

>>377261498
>Servers will be shut down, thank you for playing!

>>377261312
I like to go Winston in that situation. Unless the enemy has a decent Hog or 76.

>>377261594
Literally the only people that complain about this are bronzies

Get
Fucking
Good

>>377261186
Honestly what I'd like to see out of this game are larger more open maps with larger playersizes but with longer ult charge times. It'll never happen but I can dream.

>>377261713
Hey, you never know.

We got a litteral MvM mode, after all.
And that was something they said they didn't want to do.

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>>377261708
But they can only be taking down properly with certain characters!

>>377261713
About 2/3 of this games cast would get absolutely destroyed with big open maps.

>>377258425
But dude. Hats!

>>377261823
This isn't exclusive to pharah.

There are a lot of characters who straight dominate other characters.

>>377257847
>Except from this year

Wanna bet they are gonna release a sequel? Gotta get that Call of Duty tier money yo

>>377261823
That's exactly why you can switch at any time.

>>377259591
>i can solo heal a team with ana are you using your granade or are you aiming at all?
>ok so you cant aim with phara, cuz it does splash and bounce you also has the bounce misile
>they are predictable...
>tracer has low dmg but great burst dmg and great position also your recall can be used to reload your gun
TLDR: GID GUD

>>377259727
I don't really get why he's complaining about having to get direct hits, the entire cast is so slow except for one character that can't even touch Pharah anyway that it doesn't even matter.

>>377258425
>1 year later
>0 pyro update

>>377262117
What's most likely is an animated feature; either theater release (unlikely- this game does amazing everywhere BUT China) or a streaming/straight-to-BluRay thing

Then maybe a single player spinoff.

>>377258425
>3 YEARS LATER
-0 weapons

>>377259301
Go back to tumblr, faggot

>>377262209
cuz he cant aim at all is a classic hanzo random shot player

>>377261283
Indeed, but all of them have enough damage to stand on their own or enough mobility to escape. Orisa has neither and it's going to be even worse.

>>377258425
once you archive perfection you dont need to add more characters

>>377261825
Honestly the only people I can think of who'd have a hard time is like, Reaper and Roadhog. The snipers would be way better, but that's why you have damage falloff.

>>377261498
>we are removing Junkrat from the roster and banning all Junkrat players in the last week

Wowee, no wonder Paladins is the superor game. It's free and constantly upsating with new shit.

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>>377261498
All healing reduced by 50%

>>377261498
>Ana was killed by Widowmaker again and for good this time. She has been removed from the game.

>>377261128
3 maps, one of which is a pack of three?

>>377259725
>Keep in mind they've also been doing fix after fix, balance after balance, carefully considering player stats and feedback for characters, as well as ever changing/managing competitive as well as doing events.

So that's why Lucio, Reinhardt, Ana and Genji are part of every single pro team ever since the game released (well Ana after her hastily done buff of course).

>>377260307
>I've had tons of fun playing as her. Mechanically interesting for an attack that's not just a "kill everything" ult as well as a new dynamic on gameplay.
Mechanically interesting does not mean she's good, or even decent. Her ult is absurdly situational, and she has to run into a crowd of enemies to do it which all but guarantees she'll die in the process. Her basic hack is useless for everything but health packs, she does so little damage that I'm convinced she was placed in the offense category by mistake, and to top it off her shitty little hack is interrupted if someone sneezes on her.

Something's gotta give here, either blizzard ups her damage or make a new category called "shit" since at least that way she won't be compared to the likes of Genji, Soldier, and McRee

>>377261823
>Bitch about Pharah
>when she's one of the few characters who straight up cannot function with her counters present
Have a soldier and/or a widow on your team and watch as the pharah is forced to switch or spend the whole match dying like a bitch.

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>hots has more added overwatch content than overwatch

>>377261498
Sniper shots pierce shields. Now that useless shitter who won't switch might be helpful.

>Blizzard still claims to not have decreased the drop rates of Rares and Epics

And yet we all still know they are full of shit.

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>Guys believe me it's because Blizzard cares about balance!
>Ana, Lucio and Reinhardt are part of every single successful team ever and some of their "nerfs" literally made them even stronger

>>377261214
iT'S OvER 9000!!!!
M I rIgHt??? eKKss DDdddDDD

>>377262647
lucio -> speed buff
reinblablabla -> shield and aoe stun
ana -> debuff heal
genji -> aoe dmg, mobile

>>377262768
That would make offense practically impossible. That alone makes Reinhart a sitting duck and completely useless if there is a Widow.

>>377262748
Not shocking. Overwatch makes a shitzillion dollars on its own.

They're literally bribing people with skins and piles of Overwatch boxes to play it. Yeah, thanks but no thanks Blizzard. MOBAs are cancer period- why on earth would I play literally the worst one?

remember when blizzard tried to push SC2 as an esport and no matter how much money they put into it and put up for tournaments no one gave a shit and played league instead

or how mods never panned out for it

and how they took fucking forever to release all the expansions to the point the game was dead as a fuckin doornail by the time the last one dropped

more people are gonna play the hd remaster of SC1 than SC2- that has to be embarassing

>>377262782
How do we know?

>>377262680
>and she has to run into a crowd of enemies to do it which all but guarantees she'll die in the process
I mean if you use the teleport thing, you can usually pop in and out unschathed. The ult is great at giving the teammates a huge edge in a push.
>Her basic hack is useless for everything but health packs
Shutting down a tracer, DVA, reinhardht or any other hero so dependent on abilities essentially gimps them. It's actually incredibly useful, just not on everyone.
>she does so little damage
The gun's fine. You get good, constant damage, you can wear down health quite fast.

>>377262647
Competitive is a whole other ballpark. I don't think you can stop them from getting a meta know matter how good heroes are.

>>377262467
Junkrat, Luccio, Sym, D.Va, Hog, Reaper, mei, Zarya, Rein, potentially sombra, Winston, genji, and mercy would all be super ineffective in a wide open space, and would just be food for long range characters.

Mcree even would eat shit a lot because he's very slow and has horrendous damage falloff.

>>377262871
>genji
>aoe damage
wtf nigga that be opposite of what it do

>>377262787
>sombra still utter fucking shit even at the bastion of teamwork, pro

>>377257013

Dont forget all the really good skins are for another game

>>377259301
So you're an SJW now?

>>377262647
Ana wasn't even in the game when the game released.

>>377260396
>implying we're as bad as that faggot
We cite our sources on Jewish plots, thank you very much

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>>377262871
>genji -> aoe dmg, mobile

>>377261498
All abilities can reset on kills

>>377262923
>Winston doesn't exist
>D.va doesn't exist
>Zarya doesn't exist

It would pierce rein, winston and Orisa barriers, that's all. It wouldn't do full damage either, 50% of a full charged widow shot works. Or do you like playing shoot shields 2017?

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>>377257013
>1 year later
>it's still popular despite /v/ insisting that it would die and kill blizzard

Salty /v/aginas BTFO

>>377262554
The card/ability designs and as a result gameplay are a little bit better than Overwatch , but literally everything else about Paladins is so fucking dog shit in comparison. The maps are all shit, the character designs suck, the skins are fucking disgusting, the servers are trash, the game client is an ancient unoptimised fucking turd and the hitboxes are fucking gigantic.
I mean Hi-Rez have Tencent backing them so they're not making some tiny budget game, they don't have an excuse for how fucking ugly the game is, both from a graphical and art direction stand point. Even compared to Smite it looks like shit. I also ironically enough, have a better connection to Blizzard's US servers than I do to my own country's servers in Paladins. I don't even know how that's possible.

>>377263171
>Or do you like playing shoot shields 2017?
It's like you've never heard of flanking or even dive comp.

>>377263175
It's just like WoW. People are going to be saying it's dead/dying for the rest of it's existence.

I fell for this shit game and i regret it since day 1.
Im a huge TF2 fag. so naturally i thought this was going to be the next big team shooter game and a worthy succesor to TF2, but instead i got a watered down casualized game that panders to the wrong crowd.

The game is anti-fun in so many ways its unreal. Its literally "SafeSpace: The Game" It doesnt have the super hype music TF2 has. Doesnt have likeable characters. all of them are generic good guys or generic bad guys who are laughable and not in the good way.

No "YOU FAIL" phase where you can kill your defeated enemy. No Taunt kills to get back at them even if you lose, infact,There aren´t any taunts that actually taunt the enemy in a meaningful way. like the TF2 laugh taunt. or maybe a character yawning after killing their enemy, nothing to make the other one upset.

Charachters dont have weapon slots or variety. same boring shit each match. at least in TF2 you can somewhat change your playstyle according to your itemization.

No Customization. All characters are a carboard cutout. and personally their version of hats arent even that good. Its pretty silly meeting someone on the enemy team that has your very same skin.

No Pre-round shaenanigans like in CP_WELL when you can break the boundaries with certain classes to mess around with them early on.

No Domination lines. No Domination state at all.

No blatant racism rivalry between characters like Soldier and Demo. you could say Zarya and Zenyatta have something like that but its super toned down.Also no Swearing in OW, because thats bad for the kids. Everything is treated like as if it was a harmless game between each characters.
>"CONSIDER YOURSELF DOMINATED YOU SCOT SON A BITCH"

Also the music is not even close to being as good as TF2. it sounds like some carbon-copy of a hollywood movie.

but most important of all things , NO MAPS. Seriously. the lack of maps kills this game.

>>377263269
Barriers and shields still make the game a slog though. It would fix 2CP as well

>>377263396
>"I'm a huge tf2 fag"

>ignore what I'm saying please

>>377257907
Given that the skill floor and ceiling are one and the same that shouldn't be a problem.

>>377263171
Winston isn't an advance tank. He's an ambush tank. So are D. Va and Zarya. To get in you need actual protection. This game lacks in actual push tanks. That's every pro team uses Reinhart. Not entirely because he's the best option. He's the only option.

>>377263003
>I mean if you use the teleport thing, you can usually pop in and out unschathed. The ult is great at giving the teammates a huge edge in a push.
You know what gives an even HUGER edge? An ult that just straight up slaughters them, like the actual useful offense heroes have.
>Shutting down a tracer, DVA, reinhardht or any other hero so dependent on abilities essentially gimps them. It's actually incredibly useful, just not on everyone.
And you won't be touching any of them except for MAYBE Reinhardt. They can hear you hacking them, and only a sloth wouldn't be able to react to that. And even if you do shut any of them down, it lasts for practically no time and they have other people there who'll just melt you in 3/4 of a nanosecond. Also good fucking luck hacking a tracer.
>The gun's fine. You get good, constant damage, you can wear down health quite fast.
Good constant damage? Nigger that thing is a fucking peashooter. It does piddling damage with a fuckton of spread. It poses a mild threat to roadhog because he doesn't have armor and is a massive target, so kudos for that I suppose. It's winston's tickle gun minus ANY of its redeeming qualities.

Even in fucking pro where everyone is super coordinated, Sombra is still useless.

>>377263396
>TF2 laugh taunt
every character except orisa and sombra have that in at least one emote

>>377263404
Any competent team can tear down any barrier in seconds. It's only a slog if your team is incompetent.

>pretty much every single other game on the market charges money for DLC Maps, Skins, Game modes etc
>Blizzard is giving maps/heroes away for free and only charging for cosmetics which are 100% unrelated to any kind of gameplay and can be earned for free regardless
>/v/ somehow finds a way to complain about this because of it's unending hateboner for Blizzard because blizzard dared to be popular

The fucking contrarianism is insane

You're really fitting in op ;)

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>Nintendo puts out more content for Splatoon on a shoestring budget and on the Wii U than Blizzard does with their gorrillion dollar budgets and three platforms

>>377263396
>Im a huge TF2 fag.

>>377257201
Yeah. Running around waiting for ults to charge is super fun

>>377263493
>>377263586
Your point? It doesnt change the fact that the game is not fun.

>>377263527
>You know what gives an even HUGER edge? An ult that just straight up slaughters them
Well that's the trade off. Sombra is very versatile and hard to kill, so it would be kind of OP.
>And you won't be touching any of them except for MAYBE Reinhardt
I was doing it easy several times over. It's a lot easier when they're preoccupied with teammates. Everytime I got someone, they literally lost all their ability to not be killed.
>Good constant damage? Nigger that thing is a fucking peashooter.
Idk man I had an easy time getting kills with it.

>>377263686
>Nintendo
>shoestring budget

Fuck outta here

>>377263586
Sorry meant to quote. >>377263689

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The only thing Overwatch I still give a shit about is Dinoflask

>>377263789
To somebody who went in expecting a complete carbon copy of TF2 maybe, and not just a game taking concepts from it.

>>377259591
Overwatch has made me appreciate TF2 even more as a game I recently got back into it and I'm having a blast

>>377257013
>a fucking bajillion and one worthless maps and stages
>5 amazing skins

is this what you want you fucking retard?

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>>377261330
qft

>>377257013
>-a fucking bajillion and one worthless trash sprays, skins, and emotes
>Glad to know where Blizzard's priorities
It's not even Blizzard. The fans of the game also wanted a bajilliion fucking skins over any new map or balance patches.

>>377263867
THREE

>>377259725
Paladins has been shitting out new champions and they've been doing fine on balance compared to overwatch

>>377263985
> balance patches

But we get balance patches all the time.

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>>377257267

>>377264109
No one gives a shit about Paladins.

Gotta get those whale shekels somehow anon

>>377260045
>Both carefully designed as to not disrupt game balance
so what if they break the balance, a shift in a new meta is always good

>>377257267
I warned everyone what would happen if the artificial difficulty meme kept up! I tried to save you all!

its meg

>>377264169
nice argument

>>377264243
>a shift in a new meta is always good
Yeah, just break the game repeatedly in a year. That'll make people stick around.

The obsession with shitting on Blizzard games here is pretty fucking stupid.

its meh

>>377264346
[argumentave statement which depicts the opposite of your post]

>>377257267
Fuck I hate getting tricked into having fake fun

How do you guys avoid faling for it again?

>>377264346
They brought it on themselves, their last 3 games have been shit.

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>>377262871
>genji
>aoe dmg
do you even play the game

dont hate on blizz

The cycle of Overwatch.
by Anon.

>Seasonal event and ranked season begins.
>Log in to play a few matches and probably get some free seasonal hats from it.
>Pick a hero i like
>Get screamed at by normies, gamer grills and 12yo kids about my pick or MUH MEDALS
>Can´t do anything to win because personal skill doesnt matter in that game so i can´t even carry myself through a match if my team is dogshit.
>check out the seasonal hats, see if i get some on the free lootbox the event usually comes with.
>log off
>dont touch the game again until next seasonal event/Ranking Season. (Aka 4months)

I haven´t played the game since the last seasonal event.
Meanwhile im still booting up TF2 daily and having a blast with it, I guess you need to experience something absolutely terrible to appreciate what you already have.

>>377264412
According to who? They're still best sellers and nobody puts them in their worst games of the year lists.

>>377257201
>fun game
>content keeps flowing
>at a steady pace

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>make a game with shitty unbalanced heroes
>fuck up what little balance there is by adding more heroes
>retarded 11 year old league playing fanbase laps of every dingleberry that manages to fall from Jeff Kaplan's ass
>game is still alive one year on

there is no hope

escapes a hoax

>>377264498
>nobody puts them in their worst games of the year lists
Diablo 3 was on many-a shitlist.

>tfw predicted 1 milliions skins and 3 maps/3characters

game literally adding nothing as predicted, blizzdrones rejoice yet again

I just want a melee healer that is relatively tanky. I like playing the healer in team based games, but I find the healers in Overwatch (aside from Ana) to be absolutely no fun to play in the least. Give me a Paladin like healer who runs around with a greatsword or something

>>377264631
Where? From Giant Bomb?

Do you fill?

I personally do not.

I would rather lose a game and spend that time honing my skills with a character I want to play.

I'd rather be a diamond genji player than a top500 winston or mercy. Low skill heroes get absolutely no respect from me.

>>377261498
Ults now take twice as long to charge.

Convince me how this wouldn't make the game significantly better.

>>377264751
"hanzo switch plz"
"no im honing my skills"

>>377264748
The game didn't even function at launch for many people, you fucking drone.

>>377264751
>top 500 mercy
the definition of carried
i especially love it when mercy mains try to tell me how to play the game

>>377264751
This is why i pick widow every single game.
Gotta love those support and tank picker tears.

>>377264845
Neither did WoW.

The true biggest problem with Overwatch is the awful map design, especially the following

>Hanamura
>Volskaya
>Temple of Anubis

Is there anything less fun than these maps? So many maps like these have a good 50% of the map's terrain serve absolutely no purpose. What is the point of the area outside the second point in Hanamura? What's the point of the town area before the first point? Why is it there?

I wish 3v3 in Arcade would just randomly pick a map among all the maps. You can see in custom games how they took the actual maps and cut out sections of them for 3v3, yet we're stuck with the terrible Antartica map to enforce Roadhog being the absolute mandatory pick forever.

The maps in Overwatch are so restrictive. They force such a specific playstyle every time to the point to where every match on that map will feel almost exactly the same.

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What's your favorite piece of fanmail that you've gotten, /v/?

My own personal favorite was a Torb that I shat on so hard as Tracer that he reverted to cursing at me in Korean.

>>377257013
Just get Paladins and rebind the controls to Overwatch style and it feels like you got a free Overwatch expansion pack.

>>377262403
>archive perfection
>archive

Yup spoken like a true tf2 retard

>>377264796
>dva
>mech is gone, have to either run like a pussy, die in one hit, or jump off the map to get mech back in order to be useful

>>377264904
Your point being? If anything you're making Blizzard sound worse m8.

>>377263396

>starts 20 paragraph novel about overwatch with "im a tf2 fag"

They make fun of themselves!!

>>377265226
The point is games have problems at launch sometimes. MKX was unplayable for a few days on PC, shit happens. But they fixed those problems and the game's are fine now.

People have already bought the game. It's not like they are that interested in releasing content that doesn't bring them direct profit.

Generally speaking their strategy for content releases is as follows:
>See ccu number dropping
>Tease new content
>Release new content
>Sprinkle in some cosmetic shit
>Rinse and repeat

>>377265159
Hers would probably be an exception. It would be the self destruct that takes a long time, but recharging her mech would be the same as before.

>>377265406
Self-imposed problems that wouldn't have existed in the first place if it weren't for their always online faggotry.

>>377262635
Still not enough
What the fuck were they thinking, making a tf2-like and then not giving users the tools to create maps?

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>Overwatch has had extremely little actual content added to it since its release, and events that are over before you know it
>Gets GotY for having diversity

>>377265296
>"Im a "X"-fag" is now an insult instead of stating that you like or invest a lot of time with a game or activity.
I want nu-/v/ to leave.

>>377265542
Regardless, OW did not have that problem.

>>377265658
Yeah, it just had no content.

>>377265731
Neither do most online games.

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>>377257267
>/v/ideogames
>artificial fun

>>377265816
Most online games are also shit.

I only play Overwatch when events are occurring. I feel like I'm wasting my time otherwise because there's no exclusivity to it. Kind of a weird reward system imo

>>377265868
Okay.

>>377265431
>lootboxes don't bring them direct profit

my sides

>>377260753
DFC lyfe nigga

one year later

+Uprising co-op event

-Bad balance decisions
-Over emphasis on shitty cosmetics over all else

Bad year for Overwatch.

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>>377257013
Nearly every archetype has been filled. Ana is the long-distance healer and Sombra's lvl. 15 Drowzee. The base game caught everything else.

Orisa is the first hybrid hero, which makes her the first hero with no unique purpose. She has no personality, she's ugly, and she's evidence that Blizzard doesn't know where to go with new heroes. Doomfist was really just going to be a meme but now they have to figure out a way to make a punching character relevant in a game dominated by mid-range combat.

Also everybody hates Oasis.

>>377266045
>+Uprising co-op
>its literally a walk through kings row with some bots added to it.
It was only worth one playthrough. i did not touch it after that.

>>377265983
He didn't say that anon, he's saying that adding more heroes doesn't bring them more profit. He's still wrong, but not for the reason you think.

>>377266139
Oasis is a shitty Beatles rip-off.

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Still bugs me that a F2P game has a better lootbox system than OW

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>e-sports scene already dead
>overwatch league nowhere close to starting

Just $20 million for a spot though, it's a steal.

>>377263809
Compared to ActiBlizz and Overwatch, absolutely.

>>377265580
They claim its because its a new engine and how they make maps. Apparently they make maps "really weird" and they don't use tools themselves.

Sounds like bullshit to me though.

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>tanked 500 sr
>people instalocking genji/widow
>people seeing that team comp is not 2 2 2 so they say fuck it im trolling and pick a dps
>russians
>little kids
>"its just a game dude"
>symmetra on attack
>capped to 99% then enemy team gets infinite overtime and we lose


I was away for 2 months and expected to find it better than when i left , turns out community is still cancer

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>>377265580
muh new engine

>>377261498
>We have released tools to assist in the creation of custom maps and set up a system for players to host community servers.

>>377266328
Who the fuck watches people play Hearthstone?

>>377263396
>no taunts that taunt in a meaningful way
I disagree, Reaper's slow clap and Winston's monkey emotes are top tier piss off taunts

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>>377258427
>6 more operators and 2 more maps on the way

>>377260714
She's annoying at best, from personal experience, not much of a threat besides the mech exploding.

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>>377257267
Include me in the memeshot reddit xD

>>377266319
The Beatles are a shitty Beatles Beatles

Is McCree a cowboy?

>>377266276
I'm not saying that adding heroes doesn't bring them profit, I'm saying that adding event crates and new cosmetics brings them so much more profit than adding heroes.

Non monetized content is there to sustain interest and a healthy amount of players, which is a long-term concern. And since the game is so popular right now they don't feel the need to constantly revitalize it by adding heroes and maps, which should be evident by the pitiful amount of actual content they've released vs the amount of cosmetic content over the course of a fucking year.

>have a friend that works for blizzard so I got to play this shit in alpha
>tell people on 4chin that its actually not that good and my friend says they don't have plans to release a huge amount of content for the game
>get memed on by people, "my dad works for nintendo" etc
>1 year later
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>377257013

>$30 game

How many hours do you have in it?

>>377268259
>they don't have plans to release a huge amount of content for the game
You do realize that the content plan can change completely depending on a multitude of factors, right?

What they "planned" to do during alpha is almost certainly irrelevant now.

>>377264751
This right here, your rank is meaningless if you play a low skill charecter like Reinhardt or Winston.

>>377263964
Yes actually.

>>377268439
33 lel

>>377260676
You mean 'life'

>>377264889
Is it just me or is sniping in this game unresponsive as fuck? Granted, I'm coming from TF2's sniping which felt really tight to me. Whenever I try to play widow, even when my crosshair is on the target, nothing happens. its like moving your mouse at all just cancels your shot.

/v/ doesn't have friends to play OW with thats why they hate it

>>377266738
if you watch someone play a video game you
are getting virtually cucked

>>377257013
I heard they do it properly though with everything from crates being purely cosmetic and having nothing to do with gameplay.

>>377257907
The skill floor and ceiling are so low it doesn't fucking matter. It probably takes 30 minutes to learn everything about the roster.

>>377271330
>takes 30 minutes to learn everything about the roster
t. silver shitter

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>>377257267

>>377271330
>probably

PROBABLY?

Would you like to prove this hypothesis, or are you just going to be angry at people all day?

>>377257013
Quality over quantity.

I'd rather have 3 new heroes that make sense and fit in the game's balance than 6 rushed clusterfucks.

That said, Sombra is underpowered and Orisa is actually a clusterfuck. Ana, however, is fine.

>>377268880
>reinhardt

>low skill

explain

>>377271910
The game has no depth. You can't just claim everyone who acknowledges that is a shitter who can't aim at stationary targets or press Q.

>>377272040
Quit projecting. The skill floor is low and it's not hard to learn the roster. One fighting game character from any major fighting game has more depth than the entire roster of OW.

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>>377257013
>>377257267


And yet...

How do you explain this?

>>377266498

Reads like a Trump statement.

>>377272265
ok define "depth"
yea an ultimate for a character is straightforward and so our most of their abilities.
but you dont know the cooldown for those abilites. you dont know soldiers movement speed with and without his sprint. or sym's attach/detach range on her left click.
the maps take even more time to learn.

depth isnt knowing that torb has a turret. depth is knowing where to place torbs turrent on each map, at each phase, for specific matchups.
it doesnt take 30 minutes to learn.

>>377272390
Everyone but them is sheep who don't understand what fun actually is /s

>>377272390
Asian cafes are allowed to make unlimited playable accounts and their customers will level to 20 and restart with a new account.

>>377257267
b8

>>377272390
thanks, just realized popular means good

Get on LEAGUE OF LEGENDS' level. Create more heroes OVERWATCH

>>377272265
Why aren't you top 500 then?

>>377273292
ew
if there is ever more than 25 characters in overwatch. its gunna be shit.

>>377257013
People are so desperate and pathetic when it comes to shitting on OW. They all come off as TF2 fags trying to get people to play their game again. Just read this a few minutes ago;
>You're complaining about how games are becoming trash, yet you're playing fucking Overwatch, a classic copy/paste of the insurmountably better game Team Fortress 2, which is now FREE. While Overwatch is FULL PRICE AAA AND HAS LOOT BOXES WITH ZERO SINGLE PLAYER EXPERIENCE!! ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED

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>>377257013
>new champions every month
>multiple events a year
>67 million players as of 2014
>actually fun


how will overshit ever compete?

>>377260932
It shits out 99.9999% duplicate sprays. You have to get several dozen boxes just to get one original item of value.

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>>377259727
>Pharah better than Junkrat
lolwut

>>377260820
>competitive title

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>>377261498
Shooting Reinhardt's shield charges your ult.

>>377273597
By not having a client thats dogshit and not having the need to grind for months to play the actual game or unlock the required characters needed to play it.

Grinding to 30 is still absolutely retarded, and now that 10 bans is coming the required champion count is 20 from 16.

>>377261594
>take away the only thing that keeps Pharah from being complete 100% garbage

>>377273292
> Reskin an existing champion
> Buff all his abilities so he's OP as hell
> Shitters pay so they can play as him and win every game
> Champion gets nerfed to uselessness

Repeat every month.

>>377257013
reminder that ubisoft added 8 characters and 5 maps to Siege in a year
Siege is also a lot more balanced and skillbased

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>>377264498
You just described pic related. I hope you're happy with yourself.

>>377257646
>>377258701
>>377259206
>>377261330
>>377264140
>>377264254
>>377265863
>>377264405
>>377272390
>>377273193
It's a skinner box. It's literally Casino tier game. You play to get loot boxes and rewards. Take that away and the game would go stale fast.
Daily quests are a disease

>>377260753
fake tits are trash

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>>377268880
>low skill charecter
>Winston
what

>>377266319
>reddit """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""humor""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>377265023
>What is the point of the area outside the second point in Hanamura?
To make it so defenders have the spawn advantage as to not be steam-rolled by endless waves of attackers.
>What's the point of the town area before the first point?
If the point was right in front of the spawn attackers would either win the point immediately or just get spawn camped.

>>377257013
Yeah, I thought that to myself today as well. It's been a year, and only 2 fucking maps. I don't even care that much about new heroes, 2 god damn maps?!

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I do have to at least commend Blizzard for somehow taking all the terrible behavior that snipers and other FPS cancer inspires, and somehow distilling it into a close range hero.

>>377271330
>>377272265
>I've Never Played Zarya, Genji, Ana or Sombra: The Post

>>377273130
>ow
>free account
???

>>377257013
Overwatch is the only good game they've made in a decade

>>377276681
>go to Asian cafe
>pay them Asian currency
>sit down, create new account
>you are now considered a new OW player regardless of if you're actually new or if you're just smurfing

This is why people aren't impressed with the 30 million milestone. It's not hard to reach 30,000,000 when people will make duplicate accounts with impunity, and you're literally letting everyone in China play for free for a month, on top of a worldwide free weekend in a week on every platform.

>>377274068
Junkrat is definitely better since the buff he got but Pharah is the only character in the game that can fly and do damage far enough where all the hitscans minus widow do the least amount of damage they can possibly do, plus counter every member of the roster that isn't a hitscan. She isn't the best character in the game and can be countered by a coordinated team but is by far the most annoying character to have to deal with especially as a non dps/hitscan

>>377276896
TF2 is actually free and I doubt it had that playerbase after the first year it was released

>>377275387
I'd still play it tbqhfamalalaniskybrosinskystinskylittledicksky

>>377272780
not him but
>the maps take even more time to learn.
every map takes time to learn you fucking retard
god ffs is this reddit here or what

and btw, any game taht calls himself an fps that has an unlimited amount of ammo (in the old days we called that godmode or cheating) shouldn't a) be taken seriously and b) won't have much of fps depth and/or skill requirements