Who here has an unhealthy addiction to games? I've dropped

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You fucking retard. Might as well be taking drugs, probably better for your social life, as you'd have to go out and talk to some nigger to buy it. Kill yourself, you absolute dumb fuck.

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keep living life like a sack of shit and see where you wind up, then you'll understand why people stay in school.

I failed literally 5 years of my life while playing video games. I won't say the reason for my failure are video games, they're just a coping mechanism.

God I hate studying so much.

>>377210287

>Doesn't like college and would rather be at home playing vidya
>It's the vidyas' fault! Not mine! I'm addicted!

Sorry sweetie it doesn't work like that

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I don't understand video game addiction.

Maybe during the golden age, but not now. Everything's low quality shit. How can you be addicted to trash?

>>377210937
You know there's nothing stopping you from playing old videogames, right?

OP, list all the games you've played in the past 2 weeks.

>>377210761
That's not what I said. I said I would rather stay home and play games. Hence why I used I.

>>377210408
Big help, thanks.

>>377210937
Because of the nature of games now, especially. Games now have a bunch of collectibles and a competitive side to it. Enticing you to keep playing more and more.


Can anyone give me real advice on how to learn self control? I don't know what to do. It's not as simple as "Bro just stop playing games." I've been doing it my whole life and it's difficult to break something that makes me so happy. I want games to still be apart of me, I just want to reduce it to a normal amount so I don't allow it to interfere with my life.

>>377210287
>It's sad and stupid. How do I learn self control?

Your parents need to throw you out on your ass so you can learn true hardship.

more addicted to shitposting these days desu

>>377210287
I'm not really one to offer advice here, but if you're having major problems getting your work done, maybe you should consider seeking counselling. Like >>377210647 said, the problem probably isn't video games themselves. There could be an underlying psychological or behavioral issue that needs to be addressed. (I'm currently using drawing as a way of coping and distracting myself from my responsibilities. Different activity, same principle). But as long as you're staying in school and getting things done (even if it's not as fast as you'd like), don't worry too much. Just don't be afraid to seek help if you think you need it.

>>377210937
he's posted an overwatch pic, he's got as much taste as brains

>>377211139
what the fuck is there to learn you dumbass
you play the games or you say no i won't play the games i will do something productive instead
this is not hard

>>377211139
Use vidya as a reward for being productive in other aspects of your life.

>>377211123
Elder Scrolls Online, Yakuza 0, Persona 5, Overwatch, Half Life Blueshift, HOTS, and Hatsune Miku Project Diva.

>almost drop out of school like all my friends
>don't
just go to class dude

>>377210287
>Play video games

*Shitpost on 4chan. Ftfy.

>>377211190
I have done therapy before for anxiety, and it helped me a lot. But now my current issue is getting work done and distracting myself too much. I'll see if my insurance still lets me go to the same place.

>>377211231
This is a good idea.

>>377211139
>>377211265
Collectibles are meaningless. Only do them if they're inherently fun or interesting (like getting vantages in Horizon: Zero Dawn). If you just want to keep yourself busy with menial shit, get a menial labor job instead.

Competition in video games is also largely empty. It can be fun, but you shouldn't invest too much time into it unless you're making money in tourneys or something (which is not just being tourney-level in skill but actively attending and so on). Instead of trying to master D.Va or whatever, try to master a subject.

Don't be an idiot, go to class

>>377211139
>Because of the nature of games now, especially. Games now have a bunch of collectibles and a competitive side to it. Enticing you to keep playing more and more.

Try collecting bitches' phone numbers instead.

>>377211569
I thought of a good way to cut back on competitive games. There's a gameworks close by my house that has an internet cafe where people play a bunch of comp games. If I made it a weekly thing to play games there instead that means I'll be getting out and socializing while cutting back on games. The few times I went there I always tapped people on the shoulder and asked if they wanna queue together and play. It's pretty fun.

But you're right, competitive gaming isn't really proving anything to anyone, especially myself.

>>377210287
I've gone to the point where going to class in more fun than vidya. Fuck video games.

>>377212227
hahah what a fucking liar

>>377211139

Not every day needs to be jam packed with things you enjoy. If you do not find time to play today there could always be time tomorrow or the next day or on the weekend. Everyone has shit in life they'd rather do than what they need to do, but you cant shirk responsibilities just to do things you enjoy, thats how you go no where. The only way I am able to put stupid hours in at work and learn a trade on the side and still find time for gaming is by realizing every day will run a bit different and cant be filled to the brim with enjoyment, but theres always tomorrow.

Idk fag, I'm high as fuck

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>>377212273
Some classes are enjoyable when you're surrounded by girls with big tits.

You're screwed if you want an actual degree though. Women don't pursue those.

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>>377210287
This is sad. Games are just a temporary pleasure, and you're sacrificing your life's progression for it. This guy >>377210408
is pretty spot on.

I have no real advice for you, though. Just try to leave your PC off for a day, see if you can do that. Read a book, exercise. Take your mind off it.

>>377212273
I've had a few classes that were for sure more fun than vidya

run every morning
limit masturbation to once every 7 days for peak sperm count and testosterone

>>/fit/

>>377210287

>Who here has an unhealthy addiction to games?

I would say I don't play games enough

I try to play as much as I can at work. I wish I could have my NEET life back.

>>377213054

also, getting perpetually sexually aroused and fighting the urge to jerk off is a great way to maintain adrenaline levels plus testosterone

leer at sexy bitch butts at the gym and get sweet gains

since it's summer, now would be the time to get started

My life got ruined every damn time a Miyazaki souls game came out. Got really close to losingjobs/uni results got way worse because of them.

I'm so glad they're over. I just wish for Bloodborne 2 to be directed by another guy.

>>377210287
>It's sad and stupid. How do I learn self control?
Practice.

Go for a jog every morning before breakfast.
Every morning, never skip a day.
Doesn't matter if you only jog 10 meters before getting tired because you are a fat ass.
Every morning, jog.

Also stop masturbating so much. Masturbating too much screws with your body chemistry and plummets your motivation. Stop browsing porn every fuggen day and clear out your porn folder.

>>377211139
>Can anyone give me real advice on how to learn self control?
Set a timer for 5 minutes. For this 5 minutes you will make a start on the work you are supposed to do. Let's say you have to write some report for uni. You can use those 5 minutes to create the section heads, get all the relevant information/data, etc. Then take a 5 minute break to do fuck all or shitpost on /v/. Then, work for 5 minutes: you already made a start, now you just have to write. Take a break again.

Repeat this cycle. Up the time working once you get the feeling those 5 minutes are holding you back from making any real progress. It's hard to write for just 5 minutes, and then have to take your mind of it.

Reward yourself with 30 minutes of play time for every mile you walk/run

>videogame addiction
Guys is this real or is it a normie meme? I only find my self playing unhealthy amounts of vidya when I depressed. Im not now but jeez, even I don't game my entire life.

>>377210287
What classes did you drop

>>377214684
>>377214536
>>377214530
>>377213101
>>377213054
>>377212534
>>377212283
>>377211231
>>377211190
>>377211164
Valid. Some with more downsides/difficulties than others but all valid.

>>377211728
Trading one addiction for another solves nothing, but at least it'd get the guy moving.

>>377214804

>play 2 hours
>OMG IM ADDICTED TO VIDEO GAMES! SUCH A GAMER KEK! #truelifeimagameraddict

>>377211101
Like anyone's crazy enough to do that.

>>377214804
Well, normies are the ones that cope with their unsatisfying life with weed and alcohol, right?
Videogamess are just another thing you can use as a coping mechanism if you can't handle life facefirst.

personally I'd just handle life facefirst. If you're a screwup who can't do anything, too lazy to achieve anything? Then face it. Do the best with what you can, and enjoy your screwed up laziness. At least your life will be easy.

https://youtu.be/P8bv_LBeSvY

>you will now be able to choke the life out of everyone as a lawbringer.

>>377215054
If you are unhappy about being a lazy screwup, then change it. Use those feelings as a motivation to progress.
Or, if you can't progress, accept your situation and stop being unhappy about it.
Not everybody can be Buzz Aldrin, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Adolf Hitler, or Josef Fritzl. Perhaps you are IRL's equivalent of a background NPC.
Might as well live your role properly rather than struggling with your own nature.

Change the information you take in. If all you do is go to /v/ and take in other vidya shit of course your mind is going to be only on vidya. Read a fucking book. Find an interesting podcast. Before I fell ill I listened to this shit: http://www.jamesaltucher.com/category/the-james-altucher-show/

doesn't even matter if it's any good. As long as it's not vidya.

>As long as it's not vidya
Good, going to /v/ it is, then.

Exercise does help. Running, walking, I figured out swimming laps was pretty easy and I liked it more than running. Next is make a schedule and stick to it. Get your shit done before gaming, don't put it off. It was easier for me to study in thr library than in my room because i felt like other peopel wluld judge me if they saw me browsing reddit or 4chan instead of textbooks. I would say try to find a tutor bedore trying counseling. Heck it can be your roommate or parents or whoever, just make sure someone is helping you stick to your study schedule.

>>377215365
Lot of counselors these days are soft cunts, too. Comfort you with pleasant words and thoughts and teach you that the road to stopping your anxiety is inner peace.

Sometimes what you need is a hard bitch or a hard bastard that'll rub your face on the concrete if you don't do your fuckin job, and remind you that the way to stopping your anxiety is to stop being shit.

It's not really an addiction to games since I'd still choose a number of other things like lurking 4chan over self improvement
I just don't care

>>377215624
If you don't care, then do your not caring -properly-.
You wouldn't make a thread if you didn't give a shit.
Being too lazy to care about anything is a valid way to live life.
You are clearly not living that life, since you care.
Either stop being lazy or be lazy properly.

>fall for the STEM meme
>realize how much I fucking hate math and engineering
>now need to 180 my degree progress

that's life

>cue looney toons outro

>>377215802
what u like instead?

>>377210287
I flunked out of college due being a lazy piece of shit as well. A few years of workiing shit tier degrading jobs fixed that right up. I'm on my 2nd year now.

>>377214530
>Also stop masturbating so much. Masturbating too much screws with your body chemistry and plummets your motivation. Stop browsing porn every fuggen day and clear out your porn folder.

Literally no scientific basis for this whatsoever. Take your nofap broscience shit back to /r9k/ where it belongs

>haven't smoked weed or jerked off in 3 weeks
>doing alright in community college after flunking from a good uni
>still feel like a hopeless shit with no future

If I hate math with a passion and want to go to college, what are my options that will leave me content with life.

>>377216132
Learn a trade.

>>377216132
A trade.

Thanks to fucking faggots, I now can't stop looking at Link.
I feel like I'm addicted to cute vidya boy, especially that fucker.
What do

>>377215829
still figuring that out

>>377216132
I started really liking math in college. Turns out I was just taught like shit. Pirate a book your level online and just churn through some problems. If you still don't like it, fine.

>what are my options that will leave me content with life.
I think the criteria for this is to simply be good at something that is valued. The "everyone has to go to college" shit is a dumb meme perpetuated by the college business complex. Make no mistake: college is a business, and one not necessarily meant to benefit its students.

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>>377216248
worth looking into.

>>377216293
block 4chan

never come back

>>377216132
Khan Academy my nigga

>>377210287
>>>377215054
>If you are unhappy about being a lazy screwup, then change it. Use those feelings as a motivation to progress.
>Or, if you can't progress, accept your situation and stop being unhappy about it.
>Not everybody can be Buzz Aldrin, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Adolf Hitler, or Josef Fritzl. Perhaps you are IRL's equivalent of a background NPC.
>Might as well live your role properly rather than struggling with your own nature.
Good shit. Glad im not one :)

>falling for the college meme

Just resign yourself to minimum wage cuckery like me until you kill yourself instead of chasing a dream you'll never achieve

>>377216336
I absolutely agree with the college is a business point but I find it hard to imagine a well paying job without a form of degree.

Albeit I have two people who would refer me into their job with 14 - 18 $ an hour which I could snatch up if I truly wanted to.

>>377216473
leechblock is seriously a lifesaver

>>377210287
I spend like 5 hours in front of my computer in week days, 12 hours every weekend, and in holidays I do it everyday. I'm still doing well enough in college, git gud faggot

>>377216336
This all the way. Math is poorly taught in schools and I personaly believe its the best subject when studied independently.

>>377210287
>How do I learn self control?
Talk to a psychologist. Get help.

>>377216336
Gamdev is fairly promising right now, the coding is simple and tutorials online are everywhere. The hardest part is a toss up between design and art, but at least you can outsource the latter. If you're successful, it can help you land positions at some larger companies

>>377215126
>harder lawdaddy! HARDER!

>>377213054
>testosterone
what do i need these for?

>>377210937
I would say it's possibly like what you see in most addictions. You ether get off on really good shit once in a while or mediocre shit constantly.

Like most addictive things the worst the quality the more damage it does.

>>377216473
>block 4chan
>there's nothing to do except playing game
uh i appreciate your answer but

>>377210287
Stop playing online garbage, like overwatch and wow.

>>377217678
A pair of functional testicles. So I guess you're out of luck.

>>377210287
Some strategies I used back when I had the same problem:

Clean up your room and start organizing your environment
make a schedule no matter how shitty and stick to it
Do work in public areas or at the very least stay out of your room as much as possible
Buy a cheap laptop with shitty specs and only use that for a while
If you're creative, do some writing/world building, if not take up a hobby, any hobby

>>377210287
Just remember that every limiting/forceful act you do from now on will result in accumulating stress and you'll have to do something about it.

I'm skipping work right now to play video games and be a lazy piece of shit.

Feels okay, I guess.

>>377210287
I haven't gone to th gym in a week because of the breath of the wild

>>377218697
don't need these lmao

>>377210287
you're addicted to procrastination more likely.

>>377210287
I just want to say try to get your life back as soon as possible.
I droppen from college (albeit in germany, and it is easier here to get back on the track moneywise) after my dad died during my last year of university. Im a undisciplined wreck since then and im still struggling to get back out of the NEET life.
I really want my last 4 years somehow back, earn more money sooner, travel the world, do more sports, just as i always wanted after school.
But i still have a chance to do all those things, just a little bit older than the other college guys.

>do law at uni
>get cushy ass job as accountant
>didnt revise at all ever

Hehu

>>377210571
>keep living life like a sack of shit and see where you wind up
6 feet under?like everyone else?

>>377210287
>going to college without taking cognition enhancing drugs

Enjoy your 'okay' GPA, idiots.

>>377219279
1 of these skjeltons was a rich man... 1 was a poor mann. Can u tell which 1 was wich? Heh.... didnt think so...

>>377210287
Absolutely. I'm a 23 year old handholdless NEET. I don't even feel bad about it because all video games feel so much fun.
I don't want to control myself, I want to play more vidya

>tfw you have crippling motivation problems and have extreme difficulty doing anything unless your told to

>>377218370
if the only things you hsve to fill your time with is 4chan and video games then you've found part of your problem right there

>>377219279
>le life is meaningless because you die meme

Bet you're one of those fags who thinks Camus was the coolest shit but utterly misunderstood his philosophy. Life has no meaning but is worth the experiences you accrue anyway. Stop trying to justify your lack of ambition.

>>377213054
>running on concrete

>>377219521
Where did he say that? Track fields are a thing.

>>377219514
Someone draw camus angrily typing out this post

>>377210287
Honestly?

Take a whole week off. Do nothing but gaming, eating and sleeping.

You'll be fucking sick of video games for a long time after that, only playing sparingly.

If that doesn't work, you're truly a lost cause, faggot

>>377210937
melee netplay and 4chan browsing.

>>377210287

you literally have to come to terms with the fact that you must limit video games to only be played once your 'duties' have been competed. Whatever those may be.

First thing you do after school / work is homework / chores. Then your free time is for you to do what you want.

Start introducing order in your life, literally map out time in your day.

3-4pm pay bills
4-5 clean apartment
6-??? video games

I ended up dropping out of my first year if college, partly due to vidya.

In the years afterward, I didn't learn my lesson and doubled-down on it as a substitution for an actual social life.

I'll be enlisting soon, so maybe being cut off from video games and being forced to socialize for two months at basic will fix the funk.

>>377219514
>Life has no meaning but is worth the experiences you accrue anyway.
Do you people never realize that trying to discuss life in these terms will always end up with a pile of subjective garbage?

>>377219750
>paying bills takes you an hour

lel how much do you fucking spend that it takes you an hour to do the bills?

>>377219514
> Life has no meaning but is worth the experiences you accrue anyway
says who?you?who the fuck are you?

>>377210287
I had a chance to get laid in high school but instead of going I played vidya and now im still a virgin

>>377219750
>3-4pm pay bills

Now that is a good goy.

I have an unhealthy addiction to 4chan more than games. I went to college classes and browsed /v/ all the damn time. I still got straight A's but fuck me it's embarrassing how little self control I have. It made those hours go by faster at least.

>>377219727
>melee netplay and 4chan browsing

fucking a, starting up some netplay friendlies is like a death sentence for my productivity for the rest of the day

>>377219775
>>377219941
Butthurt NEETs detected

>>377217012

What math courses should I take for gamedev? I've also heard taking a physics course is a good idea?

>>377220257
>Pretend your philosophy is anything other than subjective shit
>Get called out
>N-NEETs!
Loving every laugh

>>377210287
By growing up and not being a retard.

>>377210287
used to have it but as I grew up I started to lose interest in vidya and eventually lost my vice

>>377210287
college is scam if you're not going to a top ten like an Ivy or MIT

just lol if you're wasting your time going to UC Davis or even some place like UCLA which is considered to be "good" by plebs

at that point, just learn a trade and play vidya

>>377214804
Partly normie meme, partly truth. I've been playing games my entire life, I couldn't begin to remember even half of all the games I've played.

>going to college when google exists


lmaoing

>>377210571
>then you'll understand why people stay in school.

I have an Engineering degree (ChemE) and can't find any work, either cause I'm way overqualified or lack experience. So much for school being worthwhile.

>>377220832
you can't google a worthwhile degree with your name on it anon

>>377220913
that shit is honestly criminal. It should be a requirement that accurate job prospects are told when you enter a degree, or just stop colleges from pulling that shit altogether.

I remember a conversation my dad had with the head of a university. Went basically like:
>so why are you making a pharma school? (there are a ton of them in the state and there are too many graduating pharmacists anyways )
>it's good business
>by the way, you think we can extend the program another year? $$$$$

>>377220832
My college got shut down before I could graduate, and the college I applied to transfer to got shut down.

So I've just accepted that a degree for me is never happening and I'm just going to accept my worthless death.

>>377221246

I applied to friggen Home Depot and they said no because they don't hire engineers for low positions since, "You'll leave in 3 months for something better." And the 1000's, literally 1000's of jobs for Engineers in my field want 5+ years for *entry* level jobs, jobs that guys with 5+ years of work experience won't touch because frankly it's benneath them. So those jobs just sit empty and the extra work is picked up by other engineers who don't (can't) want to admit to their boss they can't handle the extra work of 3 extra jobs because that company's HR department is run by a bunch of Phych majors who don't know the first thing about what makes an engineer useful.

I'm not mad, I'm fucking pissed. I could have majored in English or History and enjoyed 4 years of school but instead I worked my ass off at the hardest degree and got shit for it.

>>377220380
>wallow in your own nihilistic shit
>get called out
>S-SUBJECTIVITY

I can do it too, wow
At least you're not objectively a failure. Oh wait

>>377210287

You just suck it up and do it.

If you seriously can't control yourself, you should seek professional help from a therapist. There's no magic here.

>Think about video games most of the time
>Spend pretty much all free time playing video games
>Turned down dates for years because I'd have to sacrifice even more free time if I had a girlfriend
>All money I spend I think in terms of how many games I could've bought with it instead

I probably have a serious problem.

>>377221448
>>377220380
Guys to be fair every theory about life is going to be subjective since we simply dont have any information

Nihilism, atheism, christianity, humanism etc none of them can be proven correct or wrong

>>377221448
>Projecting this hard
Keep going please

>>377221421
do some internships. you'll gain experience AND more importantly, you get to know people who can help you to get an actual job. the important thing is to befriend those important people. don't be a fucking autist and/or make it obvious you're only using them to get higher up.

>>377221253
um, where do you live?
how does a college just "shut down"?

>>377219514
> Life has no meaning but is worth
wew lad, I don't think there's anyone on this planet who can judge that.

>>377221797
Minnesota. College got in legal trouble and lost it's license.

>>377221797
>how does a college just "shut down"?

Probably some internet scam degree.

Real universities and colleges dont just "shut down"

>>377210408
Im 100% sure this is exactly verbatim what my dad thinks when I call in sick for work some days ;_;

>>377221421

I'm sorry but I just don't buy your story. I graduated with a fucking writing degree--as artsy fartsy/liberal arts as it gets--and landed a job at a software company in 2010 when the economy was still mostly shit. Started at 33.5k salary in what was basically tech support, now my average salary last 3 years has been around 110-120k since i moved into a sales position.

I realize that kind of salary growth is crazy abnormal especially in just a single company but the fact that you have an engineering degree and cant find work is BS. I personally know several chem engineer degree guys who found jobs within months post college around the same time. You just have to be relentless, send 100s of resumes, who cares if 90% never call you back. it sounds to me like you are barely trying. or expand your horizons as far as industry, location, etc there are TONS of technical jobs out there and the common thread is that there arent enough americans out there to fill them (hence why pajeets are still granted visas despite anti-immigration sentiment seemingly at all time highs)

I have an unhealthy addiction to escapism. I used to use games to fulfill this addiction, but games are too shit nowadays to fit the bill. Unfortunately I can do it just browsing the internet, and trying out new games that I never finish.

>>377221448
>At least you're not objectively a failure. Oh wait
wow already you made a logical error
good job retard

>>377221421
I hope you learned your lesson. don't work hard ever.

>>377215802
>hates math
Subhuman detected

>>377222020
What games did you use to play?

>>377221947
All you have to do is give up on a congruent lifestyle in favor of "a job, any job".

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>>377210937
Why? I’ve been having a blast this year.

>Hollow Knight
>NieR: Automata
>DS3 final DLC
>Prey
>PUBG
>Subnautica finally getting a release

I don’t have a Switch, but I heard BOTW is good…

I’m also playing Witcher 3 and Bloodborne for the first time, but those aren’t 2017 releases.

>>377222104
Well I've been playing games since the NES but it only became about escapism after I dropped out of school for just not fitting in. It was Diablo 2 for a few years, and then FFXI for quite a few more. I live a more balanced life now but escapism is still basically my habitual energy.

>>377222097
>muh numbers that dont really exist are important

>>377221521
>just do it

really not that simple

>>377210937
"I don't get it !!!11, how could you possibly enjoy games these days! everything is low quality shit!!11, how can you enjoy TRASH?!?!"


There are way too many "enlightened vidyagamers" on this board, plenty of people that would be better off switching to /b/ or killing themselves outright. The type of people who don't even peak 10 hours played a week, if instead of poster ID's they were replaced with dicks that went up to 12 inches your posts would have a micropenis above every single one of them.

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>WoW /played
>like 600 days

>>377222271
Not the math guy but every time I think /v/ has hit rock bottom an anon like you surprises me by digging even further

>>377222271
Most retarded post I've seen this week

Yes, I'm addicted to video games.
I still managed to get a university first class honours but cannot be bothered to get a job.

>>377210287
Actual advice here: Turn not playing vidya into a game.
Keep track of points earned by doing non-vidya activities (chores, school, non-vidya interactions) and reward yourself with vidya or desserts ONLY when you've accumulated enough points.

The sense of accomplishment you get from vidya can be transferred to any activity, so long as you approach it with the same lusory attitude.

Over time, it will get easier to control yourself.

>>377222020
maybe your environment is the problem. where I live is full of a bunch of sad fat people who are dead inside and meth addicts in the desert. just something to think about.

>>377222398
>>377222412


really compelling qrguements made by the math majors. go figure kek kek

>>377222271
Idiot. I'm not that fond of math either, but without it we would still live in caves.

>>377222134

The idea that everyone will ultimately "live and work in their dream job and dream location" is just a recipe for unhappiness. Don't me wrong, if you are passionate it's worth pursuing what you are passionate about, but realize (depending on what that is) that you may be fighting an uphill battle for nothing. To each their own I suppose, but the idea that you "have to work in your chosen field" is millennial faggotry (speaking as a millennial myself).

More importantly, there are such a diversity of jobs out there, you really never know what you may fall into. And on top of that, a lot of times it's less about your "profession" and more about the company you work for + the people there. I mentioned i work in software sales, but the software i sell is fairly niche and i never in a million years would've thought this was something one could make a career out of. I dont love sales but i do enjoy what our company does and its something i wouldn't have ever been aware of in school.

>>377222271
>he doesn't realize how beautiful math is

>>377221762
>do some internships.

I did. Did an internship at a Waste Water Treatment plant. Worked my ass off. Even instituted a new policy. But it was a govt' job and they didn't hire me. And at this point, I've been out of school long enough, internships don't want me anymore.

>>377221947
>I realize that kind of salary growth is crazy abnormal especially in just a single company but the fact that you have an engineering degree and cant find work is BS

I graduated last year (2016) with a B.S. in Chemical Engineering. I did research while in school, ran clubs. Started a new class that was added to the curriculum it was so useful/well done. I was in the Army for 5 years prior to school (only reason I'm not salty over Student loans, I have none), and did an internship. And nope, can't get a job to save my fucking life.

I've applied to everything from Home Depot to god damn Monsanto. No one wants me. Either I'm grossly overqualified, or don't have enough experience. And as I've found out, you can't lie. You get caught, and then those background check websites mark you as having lied and you're fucked for life.

I managed an engineering degree. Clearly, I'm not lazy. I want to work, but no one wants me. My labor is worthless, apparently.

>>377222341

Well then like I said, if you lack the will to do it yourself, go see a therapist. What do you want people to say? Either do it yourself or go find help.

>caring about school

You can get by without it if you're not retarded.

>>377221947
sorry if I'm being ignorant here,, but when is the economy NOT shit?
all I ever hear about is people whining about it. any economics majors care to enlighten me?

>>377222629
>My labor is worthless, apparently.
Try getting a real degree next time

>>377222648
therapists are worthless and just take your money. that's terrible advice. but then again this is a video games board. if only we had an advice board...

>>377210408
i actually agree with this anon OP, what the fuck?

>>377222747

What's a real degree. Do tell.

>>377222629

How many resumes do you send out a week? What kind of geographic net are you casting? If you are confining yourself to one area, do you have a valid reason to do so, or are you just being lazy? Are you applying to all kinds of engineering jobs? Or all kinds of jobs in general?

My 62 year old mother who spent 30 years at a contact lens company and got canned after making $200k+ just found a job in a totally different industry. She faced the whole "overqualified/overpaid" type of stuff but If she can do it with retirement on the horizon I'm confident that a recent grad with a real degree can find employment.

If you are truly that desperate, and you aren't sending out your resume at least once a day, you're doing it wrong.

>>377210287
I just bought an old mac laptop to fix up so I can play old early 90's adventure games in Mac OS 9.

>>377222797

Then man up and turn off your faggy nintendo games. Christ you are a moron. Does your mom hold your dick while you take a piss?

>>377222557
What you say is not unreasonable, but I really believe you should pursue what you believe in. Even if you don't make it, I still think the pursuit is worth it. I don't necessarily equate this with working in your chosen field. For me, at least, this has changed over the years, and will probably change again. I agree with never knowing what you might fall into, though. I've experienced that in my life to the extreme.

>>377210937
This desu the older I get the less I like video games, they're awful now and have been for the past decade.

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>>377222879
If your degree is not math related you're not even human and should be put down. Sorry, but it's the truth.

>>377222971

I"m not OP. just saying that's really vague shitty advice. right up there with "just be urself" and "do what you love :)"

no need to get defensive, m8.

>>377222701
anyone who makes their money off the market will never have any issues telling people the economy is shit, especially when they are short-selling to make their money.

My name is Jeff

>>377222629
>B.S. in Chemical Engineering

go get a master. a bsc is useless.

>>377222889
>How many resumes do you send out a week? What kind of geographic net are you casting? If you are confining yourself to one area, do you have a valid reason to do so, or are you just being lazy? Are you applying to all kinds of engineering jobs? Or all kinds of jobs in general?

You think I'm crazy? I've applied to jobs on most continents at this point, other states/countries was on day 1. And all kinds. Not just Engineering. No one cares. I don't have any work experience. I never had 'regular' jobs. I went from High School to the Army to College. I've done lots of things, professional things, but no work experience. And that's all that, apparently, matters now. And I can't get job experience to GET job experience.

And I apply, on average, to about ten jobs *A DAY,* EVERY day. After a year of doing it I no longer believe I will get a job, it's just a ritual I go through. I can practically do it in my sleep.

>>377223125

Are you fucking retarded? I got a degree in Chemical Engineering. All I do is Math and Chemistry.

>>377223263

Well if you say so. Just keep at it. Also I'd recommend calling/following up on resumes you send. Furthermore the whole "experience" thing is overblown. A lot of ads will say that but that doesn't mean you can't apply. These people are weighing you against others with loads of experience that may be demanding more $$ than they are willing to pay. In other words even if it doesnt seem possible "on paper", business doesnt operate like it does on paper all the time. For example the ad for my job requested a comp sci/econ/math major or equivalent experience and i had neither, but i got the job because i could hold a conversation, and the other candidates were masters/phd holders that were looking for 70k+ salaries while i was just happy to get my foot in the door.

>>377223340
I meant real math, not dumbed down "math" for engineers.

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>>377223340
>>377223125

I think the message here is that everything is math related. really fires the neurons.

>>377223202
Hi Jeff!

I wonder if you went into an addiction anonymous meeting if this would be valid. saying you have a videogame addiction. they'd probably just laugh you out of the room.

>>377223748
math is just a subset of metaphysics
metaphysics is just a subset of philosophy
philosophy is just a subset of autobiograph

>>377223072
I'm glad games are terrible now. maybe I can finally get some work done.

>>377210937
I haven't found a video game worth playing in a long time. It honestly scares me how little interest I have in them lately.

>>377222165
prey is good?

>>377223831
They wouldn't. An addiction is an addiction.

>>377223681

Oh I always apply. Pretty much within a week of looking I realized I had to apply to jobs expecting 5+ years of experience otherwise I wouldn't be able to apply for anything. But honestly, I cannot for the life of me understand why I cannot find a job. I mean I get why Home Depot, or Target, doesn't hire me. They see "Engineer" and think it's a temp job until I find something better and don't want to be my whore. That logic holds and I can even go so far as to say I'd do the same thing in their shoes. But dyed in the wool perfect jobs that I fit in, that stay open month after month, won't hire me. Even if it plays into the specialties I developed during my research and internship.

>>377223707

Do you not know what the "E" in STEM stands for? I mean you posted the picture. If you're gona just contradict yourself what's the f'n point.
Also, I was (as were all other CE's in my program) 2 classes short of getting a Math Major as a double major. We just needed two of their 500 lvl classes. Most of us didn't because our senior year had us at exactly the max allowed credits per semester (and most didn't want to spend the money on an extra semester). I doubt it would have made any difference.

>>377223681

Oh and I also have only had 2 phone interviews in the past year. So the vast, vast VAST majority of jobs are denying me sight/voice unseen.

It's because you're young.

I've got a first from uni because I've done it a bit later when I've grown up and I'm not so addicted to vidya

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>>377224193
Very. Closest thing to System Shock 2 in a decade, with Dishonored’s movement mechanics and UI, and a bit of BioShock aesthetics and story.

>>377224392
>I mean you posted the picture.
The picture was only tangentially related.

>2 classes short of getting a Math Major as a double major.
Then don't bitch about employability when you pick the inferior degree.

>>377225046
Why couldn't you just climb over the chest high wall?

>>377225337
It's a security booth. There's steel bars in the way to ensure no one can slip through there. Kinda the point of a security station desu

>>377225552
>steel bars
Unless the player is amerilard tier he would be able to just climb through the space between them, they don't block anything from entering.

>tfw passed Calculus 3 with the skin of my teeth
Holy shit, fuck foreign teachers. This Nigerian fuck, kept going off on Philosophical tangents every day taking 20 minutes. At least I'm done with high level math classes

>>377210287
fuck a fat bitch

>>377225046
what are the pros and cons?

>>377225552

Looks like he could effortlessly climb through desu. The crossbow bit seems really dumb considering. Still cool that hitting the button works I guess.

>>377224695
Honestly I find it hard to believe you're this unemployable. There must be some sort of giant red flag with your application or background or name.

>>377226550
>There must be some sort of giant red flag with your application or background or name.

Not that I'm aware of. I've even used a nickname as the given name just to test that and it made no difference. I've mentioned being a vet and not mentioned it (it's not required to admit it if you don't want), I've truly tried everything and cannot get a job to save my life. If I didn't have my pension I don't know what I'd do.

>>377226550

Also, I'm not the only one. Of all my friends I graduated with, only 2-3 (out of 50) have gotten jobs in our field on their own merits (a few others, not many, got jobs from an immediate family member). My best friend has been working for a temp agency for the past year and they have been looking for excuses to get rid of him because he's just too much for that kind of job.

I scoffed at youth unemployment when I was in the Army, but I'm not scoffing anymore. And this is everyone's problem. I'm consuming public services, consuming tax dollars, and not paying a dime in taxes. I'm not paying into Social Security, I'm not paying state or federal taxes, and I *want* to, I have no problem with that, but no one is willing to hire me so I'm just sucking stuff up and not contributing. And I'm not the only one. And that's a problem for everyone.

>>377224329
it's not an addiction. it's a habit.

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Going to college as an adult (26) was a much better choice than going fresh out of high school

>Skipped grades as a kid so I graduated High School at 16 back in 2008-ish
>Extremely immature
>Didn't know what I wanted to do in college
>Skipped classes, got myself into debt and trouble
>Thrown out of my house (for good reason, I was a shit)
>Forced to get my shit together
>Had my own place by 21-ish
>Had a good job but needed something better
>Managed to get into school
>Have had to deal with so much shit in my life (that I caused myself, don't get me wrong here) that it made me realize how much more I needed to take things seriously because I never want to be homeless again
>Doing better in school than I ever have in my entire life
>Are now a med student
>On track to graduate as a cardiothorasic surgeon in 2020
>Older so girls basically throw themselves at you
>Wiser and more mature so I can see through their shit
>Never skip classes, always got my homework done on time and correct
>Goofed off so much when I was younger I basically got it all out of my system to the point where if I wasn't at work I was hitting the books
>Have had brand new games like BOTW and Nier that I've only just now opened up since I'm on summer break right now

Not everyone can end up in my situation but at the very least take it as a sign that not everything is fucked forever and that if you have the willpower you CAN change.

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>>377225682
Perspective is a funny thing, anon.

>>377225991
Well, you can't. The player's box doesn't fit through segments a few inches wide unless you turn into a coffee cup or something and roll through (which you can).

>>377225978
Pros
>Inventory management and skill trees right out of SS2
>Great level design
>variety of tools aside from standard guns (adhesive blaster that lets you platform along walls, nerf gun that makes noise and presses buttons you can't reach, Laser rifle that either does zero damage, or 1HKO’s the target)
>If you choose to get more alien powers, a boss alien spawns and hunts you throughout the station like Nemesis in RE3. Also the station’s security targets you.
>Extremely good PC optimization (nothing like Dishonored 2)
>nice little touches throughout that remind me of the old Looking Glass games, especially Thief 2.
>mimics

Cons
>audio cues don't sync up with action well (you'll sometimes get a jumpscare noise BEFORE the actual creature reveals itself)
>some of the plot twists are extremely predictable
>voice acting could be a lot better

>>377227254
Absolutely fucking this

I genuinely think that people who want to be successful in education should take some time to work before getting back into it. Before you're about 22 you're a fucking idiot.

>>377227254
whoa.... cute tiles

>>377227168
what college did you go to? And damn m8 that shit sucks hard.

>>377222701
In 2008 some people.cashed out their stocks "worth millions" and it turned out the company didnt have the money and maybe the stocks were worth hundreds. We honesly need to move the decimal over two place. "Wealthy" people play a game trying to see how many 0s they can accunulate and they dont care if its real or not

>>377227254
>Had my own place by 21
Fucking how?

>health tanked when I was 16
>took classes when possible
>finally get well
>when 24 finally went to a good state school
>halfway through compsci degree
>stressful situations and a poor relationship pop up
>health tanks again
>now 29

Welp. I'm on the precipice of being able to do shit again, at least. An improvement as my condition a year ago was "literal torture".

I can tell you one thing, though. I've had enough internet and vidya to last a lifetime. If you don't earn your relaxation all the enjoyment gets sucked out of it. When I finally get well for good I'm just going to be a workaholic. Fuck romantic relationships and time wasting. I just want to be useful to society and make some money. Don't get freak auto-immune diseases kids. Also take tick bites seriously.

>>377229045
Leasing an apartment isnt hard you know

>>377229135
Without money it is. I doubt he had alot seeing as how he was in debt and just thrown out of his house.

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>Spend all day playing vidya
>Don't even like it

>>377229135
>>377229306
I was couch surfing while working a shitty retail job for a few years to build up money and credit.

Since picking up a few internships in the last year or too I actually have an itty bitty house not much larger than an apartment outside of the city.

It's comfy.

>>377229135
>not buying a house

>>377229656
how much? how big?
what city?

>>377229901
About 30k, maybe about six rooms not counting the bathroom, and I'm not telling you so that you can't try to be some LE EPIK HACKUR and track me down. I am out in the Midwest though, so I'm sure I'll get a few responses of HURR HURR FLYOVER

>>377227254
Same-ish here
I'm pretty sure many more here share (or will) this experience

What the hell /v/, get your shit together

>>377229112
>If you don't earn your relaxation all the enjoyment gets sucked out of it


disagree. that's a crummy mentality. besides, what if we reached a point where you're not need to society? that's like those awful pity jobs like walmart greeter they cobble together to maintain the status quo. it's really sort of pathetic and can't sustain itself.

>>377230116
>tfw I've been shitposting here since I discovered /b/ back in like 2007 through Gaia and I'm literally about to be a surgeon in a few years

And to think these faggots genuinely still believe in the SEKRIT CLAB nonsense when there's probably more people either just like me or actual businessmen posting titties or fapping to what's being posted too

>>377211139
>asking /v/ for advice about anything at all let alone vidya related and healthy habits
best advice I can give is to kill yourself

>>377230265
Well, ok. I do vidya and internet in one of two conditions. 1. as a means of pain control (distraction is quite effective). 2. when fatigue is so great I either do that or sleep

I remember when I was on some chemo-tier IV antibiotics (severe nausea), I'd play vidya for like a week to help endure and then never want to touch them again.

My situation is a bit abnormal, so maybe that's where my lack of enjoyment for these things is coming from. When I was in school I'd work all day and then do some vidya before bed and I fucking loved it.

>what if we reached a point where you're not need to society?
not there yet. And I doubt that's going to happen. Humans are needy fucks. There's always something you can do.

> that's like those awful pity jobs like walmart greeter they cobble together to maintain the status quo
It may be a shit job but you've done your dues, and "earned" time to be 120% selfish. Sitting on your ass just passively soaking shit in and solving easy video game problems is just a miserable way to live.

>>377227251
Lol. What is an addiction and how is it any different from a habit?

>>377231049
nah. you can't just have a surge in population, have entire industries replaced by machines practically overnight and expect things to be the same as they've always been.

honestly though, the only people who sit around all day are depressed, not "lazy". everyone wants to do things and contribute/feel useful in some way. that's just natural. but it's not always economically viable to do what you love or are good at, even if it helps society. consider the internet browser you're using right now. you didn't pay for that. kind of important if you want to access the internet. things like patreon pages and donations are only a kludge and aren't sustainable, at least not for everyone. I'm guessing more people will have to be put on welfare or something to sustain an economy. of course they'll have to change the name so people don't get triggered. weird times.

>>377230473
Same, 10+ years shitposting
People here forget we've had from big pharma millionaires to autistic real physics gamedevs and everything in-between making 4chan references over the years
We run this shit now

Let them fuck up by defending non issues for years in endless web wars like we did

>>377231737
>One of the doctors I interned/studied under swore like a fucking sailor during procedures
>Almost everybody would make fun of tiny dicks or boobs, cracking jokes like "well we're here to save their life, not their sex life" or something
>Nurses getting railed in the sleeping corners at pretty much all hours of the night

It's amazing how people think just because you're a supposed "professional" that means you're immediately a no fun allowed guy

>>377232020
Or just an "adult"
Underages actually believe your life ends at 20, they've told me themselves

>>377210287
Ask your father.