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Did you like Bayonetta for PC, /v/? I've played for 15 minutes

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Did you like Bayonetta for PC, /v/? I've played for 15 minutes and, to me at least, it's god awful: shit graphics, shit combat, shitty English dub. Is it worth to play only for the story?

Bayonetta general.
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>>377206581
bump
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>>377206734
double bump
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Congratulations on making the worst thread I've seen in a while.
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>>377206581
I tried it and appreciated the style and aesthetics, clearly developers had some vision. However, I just can't play beat'em ups and DmC-likes, so I refunded.
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oh look its this autist again
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It's hard, i mostly got stone statues.
I like MG:R a lot more because you can repeat any instance as much as you like and it doesn't affect your final score.
When game constantly telling you that you are bad it doesn't encourage you to keep playing.
Story and combat are okay.
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Great informed opinion there op, thanks for the blog update
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>>377206987
Thanks, friend!

>>377207005
I pirated it, it isn't worth the buy, friend.

>>377207071
Yep, it's me, friend.

>>377207182
MG:R is shit too, friend.

>>377207568
No prob, friend, I'm here to help.
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>>377206581
What games do you think have good combat?
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>>377208128
>MG:R is shit too, friend.
That just your contrarian opinion, worth nothing and doesn't count .
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>>377206581
Making this thread useful and worth more than the shit premise ou have oitlined. Been trying this crackpot scheme to "make Kamiya sempai notice me" since he is known to lurk. Or did that one time.
Posting Ideafaggotry:

I think it's high time I post this idea that's been stewing in the back of my mind for years since Bayo 1 and it has just occured to me to complete it with Balder.
One has to ponder where the natural progression in this story will go and how and where that will make Kamiya take it. In Bayonetta 3, simply put, I want the story and mechanics in the game to be expanded on so that in this iteration; Bayo unlocks the Lumen side of her blood and becomes the first being to birth Lumen/Umbran dual arts. The first female to -ever- weild Lumen powers and a massively offensive bastardization of the status quo, garnering the full wrath of Paradiso and Inferno.
Jesus anons imagine how fucking stellar Bayo will look in Lumen then some orignial Lumen/Umbran garb. Have it be revealed that this was all apart of based Balder's (and Rosa's) -real- keikaku to upend the status quo of both Angels and Demons (of which he despises -both-) and kill Jubileus and give her eyes to his beloved daughter and, through her, humanity. All his prior douchbaggery was an act and in reality his goal was always to create the greatest world for his daughter and to rip away power from any immortal being. Even his "corruption" by Loptr was a ruse and he simply removed his memories before Loptr ever infected him so he could not discover his true intentions whilst inside him. He knows that the providence and love of Paradiso and the rebeliouness of Inferior, while -admirable- are fucking wasted on worthless immortal Angels and Demons and only humanity is worthy of it. A full on reverse-Zamasu.
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>>377208882
Bayonetta herself reflects this by adopting a sort of meta mischievous-virtue (which has always been her nature), an acknowledgment that Paradiso's virtue and Inferno's freedom are king but a rejection of Angels' elitism & control and Demons' hedonism & rage. Just imagine her in veiled in Lumen light embracing virtue but with a shit eating grin and a pechant for anarchy. Just a before with little to no alteration to her personality. Great right?

Geting into the actual gameplay; reality would get all kinds of fucked up and quantum-mutated fusions of Angel and Demon would start to appear as enemies. Mechanically this would manifest as a new dimension of gameplay on the same (or greater) level of nuance as dodge-offset; Lumen and Umbran weapons and attacks would need to be switched between and chosen as these chaotic enemies weaknesses to Paradiso and Infero wax & wane with visual indication. Different enemies would have different shift patterns and different metas needed to combat them.
I showed this pasta to a friend before I made a thread about it and he said:
>"Yeah dude this sounds exactly like the whole Nephilim thing from DMC"
>W-whats that?
>"Well take a look online; Dante's whole schtick is that he is half Angel half Demon so in the game he can switch between their powers like, but not quite, this thing you cooked up for Bayo."
>Well shit
Honestly rained on my parade because I came up with this from the ground up with Bayo only with ziltch knowledge of DMC lore.
Tell me to what extent this sounds like a blatant rip-off.

Overall I think this nicely addresses an obviously common curiosity on the part of players wondering what it would be like to play as a Lumen Sage. We've all thought of it.
Now r8 my autism

Posting shit I clarified and ideas I bounced off another anon in a another thread.
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>>377206581

Something is telling me you're just exclusively into weebshit trash
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>dub
>dub
>dub
/thread
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>shitty English dub
It's not a dub. The game has no Japanese version.
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>>377209154
If it makes you feel better he's talking about the shitty DmC reboot where Dante says 'fuck you' a million times. I think if Bayo 3 did something similar to what you said it'd make more sense for that series and would probably be better designed.
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>>377206581
>English dub
English is the native spoken language for Bayonetta.
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>>377209941
This is a convo I had where I was asked to clarify a few things and where I bounced ideas off an anon: >>377000351
What do you think?

Eventually I will transcribe the essence of these posts, and any insights garnered in this and future threads, in short form to this pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iggiYXXw
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>>377210489
Not bad.
Not him btw.
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For a 2009 game it's quite demanding, my toaster can run Mgr at 60fps but for Bayonetta it's 15~30
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>>377206581
What a surprise, another shit eater that didn't actually play the game he's shitposting about.
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>>377206581
>shit combat
elaborate
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First few chapters were GOAT but then they ran out of ideas/time and started copypasting shit. I soured on it pretty quick.

Cutscenes were ridiculously long/plentiful and I'm never watching them again.
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What the fuck is up is gookmoot holding us hostage?
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>>377206581
I already loved it on 360 and loved it on pc as well.
Got all achievements and Platinumed most of it (not pure Platinum though).
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Bump for ideafaggotry
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The gameplay is great but the QTE's and story aren't engaging and/or frustrating. Ultimately, I like the game.

REMINDER TO PRE-ORDER VANQUISH YOU DOUBLE NIGGERS
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>>377206581
>English dub
But it's not a dub, you fucking moron. The fucking director of the game himself says the English version is the official and canon one.
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>>377208882
>>377209154
Bayonetta's powers, for that matter, the umbran powers and lumen powers, are not genetic, they are gained through contracting with a being from inferno or paradiso and training. Bayonetta is not biologically special. In order for her to gain lumen powers she would need to contract with an angel, probably not happening. Besides what would change? Lumen sages haven't shown anything particularly unique about their combat styles compared to umbran witches. What are they gonna do expand rodin? Map angel weapons to x, like they initially had?

Not happening.
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>>377206581
Kill yourself :)
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>ywn Bayo as a mommy AND as a gf
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>>377216993
>Bayonetta's powers, for that matter, the umbran powers and lumen powers, are not genetic, they are gained through contracting with a being from inferno or paradiso and training. Bayonetta is not biologically special.
I do not regect the notion that people may simply seek out the Lumen and Umbran way without being born into an Sage/Witch family, (though this isn't implicitly stated) but their is presumably a reason other than cultural why Lumen/Umbran interbreeding is verboten.
This is where I introduce a not-impossible headcannon that aquisition of of either the Lumen or Umbran mantle of power, normally, directly disallows the other. Bayonetta, being the aberration that she is, is saved from this by blood hax as, again, all acording to keikaku.
Accepted, this means the she IS biologically special just that Sages or Witches arn't usually -supposed- to be.

In this first thread I answered an anon's question asking how her first usage of Lumen powers would be handled mechanically, to which I answered:
>Maybe something involving amnesia where she just striaght up thinks she's a Lumen for several chapters. Or not, probably a beter way to write her first use of Lumen powers than that. Unsure.
>Maybe she discovers the keikaku (all "Oh daddy you were a based motherfucker all along!") And decides to possess a Joy to learn shit first under her own initiative... yeah that sounds better. Have her actually be seen as a Lumen tinkerer (all sexy librarian like) all hush and devious as the implications of the ideology she knows she needs to create becomes more and more known to her.
>Have this be a stark contrast to the 'her being swept up in events' themes of the last two games. SHES the one setting shit into motion now.
So she still requires the training and discovery (handled inventively by her) just that her parentage makes holding Lumen/Umbran powers in one person not impossible.
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>>377206581
>Is it worth to play only for the story?

No, the story never really gets more interesting than "You're a witch, you fight angels because reasons, also, there's an evil god."

The lore is kinda cool if you care about that sort of thing but if you're not into the gameplay there isn't much there for you.
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>>377207005
>know you don't like a genre
>know game is in that genre
>buy and refund it

What did he mean by this?
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>>377218965
White people gonna white people.
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>>377219179
Hey reddit.
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>>377208436
he's not wrong though
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>>377206581
Le epic bait thread.
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>>377219532
>say a bad game is bad
>BAIT BAIT BAIT
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>>377206581
who is jugular janitor
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>>377219578
>it's bad because it's bad.
Maybe try giving some actual arguments as to why the game is bad then instead of some weak ass bait.
Pro tip: >muh QTEs isn't an argument.
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>>377219817
>>muh QTEs isn't an argument.
yes it is there's so many it's stupid. the combat is boring and repetitive after an hour. It doesn't get better. I have it for wiiu
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>>377213206
seth rich threads.
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>>377220019
I don't keep up with /pol/shit, what's this all about?
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>>377206581
>only 15 minutes
OH
WHAT A DAY
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>>377206581
15 minutes wouldn't get you past the actual tutorial you fucking stupid shit
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>>377219981
>there's so many
Most of the combat ones are optional.
>the combat is boring and repetitive
not an argument
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I only gave it a quick try, and what the fuck was up with that initial sequence? It looked so unbearably grainy and blurred and it was a clusterfuck of enemies all around, but not in a fun way. It was a complete fucking mess, what a way to introduce a game.
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>>377219362
>Muh reddit boogeyman
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>>377220662
Shut up, white boy.
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bayonetta is the most typical of all AAA games

the one factor they all have in common is that there are 100 different ways to achieve the one and only goal, which is to make a single enemy type die

there's a point at which you need enemy variety, this is the real reason why dark souls became so popular
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>>377220694
In all fucking honesty, refunding something you don't like isn't a white thing. Anyone with a fucking brain would do it. Flaunting around the fact that have more dollars than brain cells truly is something reddit would do, just take a look at literally any of the pictures they post on their cancer ridden layout website.
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>>377220840
No, it's the fact he bought a game he knew he wasn't gonna like. That's dumb white boy as fuck.
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>>377220761
Make me, nigger.
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>>377208882
>>377209154
>>377210489
>>377218775
I don't hate this.
>Been trying this crackpot scheme to "make Kamiya sempai notice me" since he is known to lurk. Or did that one time.
I unironically wish you success.
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>>377209782
>It's not a dub.
Technically any voice over is a dub.

>The game has no Japanese version.
This is a lie.
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>>377220941
>try to give a genre a second chance
>don't like it
>refund
Stop acting like a fucking nigger, you tumblr tier cumskinfaggot.
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>>377220941
Or dumb manchild nigger, spic, or chink as fuck.
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>>377206581
I'm going to get it, but since I already have the 360 version I'm not willing to buy it until it's on sale for like $5. Not that I'm willing to buy any game until it's on sale for that or less, but at least this time I have more of an excuse.
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>>377221020
Thanks, definitely a work in progress.
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>>377206581
>shitty English dub
Nobody thinks Bayonetta has a bad english voiceover, surely? Aside from Lowenthal it's fantastic.
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Is anyone elses having issues uploading images?
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>>377221313
Yeah.
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>>377221026
>This is a lie.
Correction: There was no Japanese audio until the Wii U version.
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I bought it on PC last weekend because I had craving for some "button masher" game. So far so good altough Im getting pretty rekt on Normal.

My options so far:
Some training ground to practice combos would be nice.
Sometimes too long cut scenes.
I would prefer more fighting. Sometimes it's like 4 enemies and then nothing.
Those railroad levels are rather shit
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>>377219462
The thing is though, it clearly shows he has no interest in the genre.

So no, he isn't wrong to say he doesn't like it, and you parroting his post doesn't make it hold any more weight like you seem to think it would.

KYS kiddo.
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>>377221497
There you go.

Incidentally, does the PC version have dual audio?
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>>377219179
what
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>>377221575
>Some training ground to practice combos would be nice.
It's called literally any loading screen, boyo.
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>>377221720
It's like 2 seconds for me. I cannot do shit there.
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>>377221761
You can make it stay until you're ready.
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>>377221870
Ok, I actually didn't checked options if it's there
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>>377221646
Yep. Playing on NSIC with japanese audio + shuraba + the umbran komachi couture bullet = fun
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>>377222232
Good to know. I bought it when it came out, but have yet to touch it.

I just grinded sai-fung in a different version, before the game was announced for PC and am rather burned out.

But hey, it got me $5 off Vanquish, which I haven't played in quite some time, so that'll be fun.
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>>377222539
Vanquish on PC is gonna be wild
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>>377222232
I gotta try that sometime
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>>377206581

>Shitty english dub

>Hearing Bayonetta without her specifically chosen accent

The shadows remain cast on that shitty taste of yours, OP.
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>>377206581
> playing with mouse
that's the problem with all of you faggots
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>>377224919
Mouse a Keyboard are the superior choice in all situations.
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>>377225443
then why are you crying like babies
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>>377225443
If you're retarded, sure.
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>>377226221
>>377225546
There is a reason console Overwatch isn't taken seriously.
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>>377226829
Is there a reason you're moving the goalposts? Other than how butthurt you are.
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>>377226932
>stated that Mouse an Keyboard is superior in all situations
>cite Overwatch as an example
>this falls under "all situations"
>somehow this amounts to the goalposts fallacy
Don't think you can just read the sticky on /pol/and think you can argue the nature of fallacious reasoning well skipper.
Hell, the 2 posts I responed to didn't even bring up a loint that might need to cook up and goalposts moving defense for. "Babies" and "Retarded". Really activates my almonds.
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>>377227829
>Overwatch is all situations
Oh boy.
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>>377227987
Holy shit anon, playing Overwatch falls UNDER "all" situations. Because it is A situation.
You cannot be this retarded.
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>>377208882
>>377209154
>>377210489
>>377218775
Could this be one of Kayima's devteam members?
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>>377228418
so do you think using a mouse and keyboard is always better because using a controller to play a fps is a bad idea? i dont get what you are trying to say.
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>>377229409
nigga u dum
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>>377229791
well what is it? why do you think playing bayonetta with mouse and keyboard is better?
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>>377228678
Lel no, I'm just spitballing here with the hopes those fags are lurking at the perfect moment and steal at least some small part of my idea.
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>>377208882
I also had this idea, its a bit strange how despite being half sage that that side is never tapped into. Mostly though I'd be interested in the type of outfit a lumen bayonetta would wear.
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How the FUCK are you supposed to get platinum score on Chapter 14? I've watched some dude play through it on non-stop infinite climax, and he killed LESS enemies than me and still got platinum for combo score.
Do I HAVE to use the Gaze of Despair just for the normal fighting segments on the rocket? Do they make that much of a difference compared to the shooting gallery?
Or does normal difficulty have higher score requirement for some reason?
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>>377206581
i've fallen love with it.
bayonetta > dmc4
long cutscenes are boring tho. but everything is absolutely awesome. dmc4 was a buttonsmash fest but bayo is a serious strategic fighting game. if you go full spaz, enemies kick your ass.
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>>377231184
As someone who's played all the way through the DMC series but never Bayonetta until now,
I feel the exact same way.
Gameplay is fantastic but the story makes it obvious it was a budget title from 2010
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>>377229791
>he moved the goalpost to another thread and absconded
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>>377225443
>Playing aerial combat games with mouse and keyboard
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>>377230381
You know an idea is bout good and feasible if on it's face it can be assumed that EVERYONE probably has it or can.
Ideafaggotry should always follow the lines of un-esoteric reason.
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>>377233986
>bout
*both
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How fix this?
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>>377206987
Same OP pic too. Find another one OP or I'll start making -real- Bayo threads.
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>>377206581
It was the ultimate refresher for the series to me and because of it I have now resolved to PP the game which I never bothered to do on console.
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>>377206581
Combat is fun, but he game is overall God awful.
3/10
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>>377231161
You can't let there be a lull between enemies killed; you need that fucking multiplier. Stop shooting for just a moment if you are kill an enemy too fast to allow the next or next batch to spawn.
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>>377207005
Please, kys.
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There's just been a 9.1 MB update. The files affected seem to be:
>the contents of "Bayonetta\aspect unlock"
>"Bayonetta\data\data00fr.cpk" through "data13.cpk"

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
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>>377207005
>DmC-likes

They're call character action games you fag
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>>377239629
Apparently this: http://www.dsogaming.com/news/bayonetta-first-pc-patch-fix-msaa-black-borders/
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>>377239713
dont open that can of worms
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>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
>RIVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITER THAN A MILE
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>>377241949
TWIST
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>People didn't hate Bayonetta until the PCuks got to it.

Really motivates my motors.
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>>377230381
Hey friend if you don't mind: I went full autistic and just updated my pastebin on the essence of all these ideas.
Share your thoughts if you would.
https://pastebin.com/iggiYXXw
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>>377242585
dont like the idea of enemies needing to be targeted by specific types of attacks, reminds me of DmC desu. Love the idea of Balder being a benevolent mastermind but that's just because I love Balder in 1 when he was a smarmy cunt.
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>>377243103
>DmC
Never played it (or any DMC), so if you could elaborate on how it worked in that game I could expand on how/if the idea I have as it exists in my head is different from it.

Honestly I am imagining something only very general and my prose intended so a dev could plug his expertise into it & translate it into workability. I don't care WHAT actual mechanics are introduced only that they
1. are inherently novel
2. justify this Lumen/Umbran premise I have set up
3. satisfy my statement: "[...]mechanically this would manifest as a new dimension of gameplay on the same (or greater) level of nuance as dodge-offset[...]"

>Love the idea of Balder being a benevolent mastermind but that's just because I love Balder in 1 when he was a smarmy cunt
Kek, same.
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Are pure plats required for 100% achievement completion or can i do it with plats only? I'm struggling to ace the first verse of the prologue, for fuck's sake.
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>>377245876
I misremember but am pretty sure they probably are. Almost certain.
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Bump of super ideafaggotry
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>>377245876
Regular plats are fine.
You're not trying to ace levels your first time around right?
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>>377231184
>bayonetta > dmc4
Damn straight
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Bump of hyper ideafaggotry
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Not even a (you) for this faggot OP
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autism
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>>377249784
>How about some (You)s for me? >>377208882
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>>377206581
>15 minutes
That's not enough to get through the fucking tutorial you damn liar.
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>>377252267
This. What an obvious shill. Big uptick in anti PC shit lately.
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>>377206581
why the fuck we are getting so much treats of bayo?
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>>377253546
We need more Bayo teats
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I was interested but once I saw it gets you a discount on Vanquish I bought it. Had a ton of fun and enjoyed the mechanics and the aesthetics. I like these spectacle fighters even though I'm bad at them. I got stone on so many levels.
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>>377253808
What would you do with them? They're not yours.
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>>377242098
Played it on xbox, hated that trash.
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