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Now that the dust has settled and we're all a little older,

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Now that the dust has settled and we're all a little older, do you think you're mature enough to admit that this was actually a good game? It's got an 89% on MetaCritic.
>b-but muh samus had to take orders from a man!
Non argument, has absolutely no baring on gameplay and it's believable because this was at the beginning of her career.
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The gameplay was dogshit though. Possibly the worst aspect of the game.
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>>377183396
Primebabby detected.
>If it's not a first person rooty tooty point n' shooty then it's shit!
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No. Stop it, anon, it was terrible. Terrible story with baby's first symbolism, ass controls, pixel hunting, unnecessary fps mechanics, three zones, almost no power-ups, no new items, nothing creative or inventive. It sucked, anon.
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>muh maturity
>lying about metacritic score
>shitty strawman
>lying about gameplay
>lying about the timeline
5 lines, 5 different baits, impressive here have a (You) actually no fuck off
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>>377183486
It failed as an action game because the dodge function is too powerful, and using a d-pad to control your character in a 3D environment is fucking retarded.
It failed as an exploration game because there fucking is no exploration. It's by far the most on-rails Metroid ever made.
What this has to do with Prime I have no idea.
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>>377183038
It has mediocre gameplay and tacked on motion controls that break the flow of the game.

And the awful story argument still stands.
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You are now authorized to kill yourself
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Is a good action game with metroidvania elements.

As an entry of the series....yes is trash.
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>>377184510
>Is a good action game
But it fucking isn't. Why must you tell these lies?
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>>377183038
>It's got an 89% on MetaCritic.
LIAR:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/metroid-other-m

it has a 79
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>>377183281
This. No. OP is clearly trolling or knows nothing about Metroid. This topic has been done to death and there are even essays on this.
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>>377183038
a good game, no, but probably not as bad as people make it out to be
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>>377183038
>89% on MetaCritic
>baring
>beginning of her career
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>>377184740

>no new powerups

fusion had like two and prime 3 really only had the grapple lasso

>only secrets are missiles, e tanks, and accel charges

instead of missiles, e tanks, and powerbombs like in fusion, zero mission, and super? wow big difference
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>>377185389
>>89% on MetaCritic

if you did some research, you would know that is a fucking lie
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>>377183038
Metroid was never a good game. Just like the Sonic fandom you pretend like this series is good because Nintendo put out multiple garbage entries once they knew people would throw money at them for it.
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>>377183038
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>>377183038
>It's got an 89% on MetaCritic.
why you lying?

it's 79% with a bad userscore
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>>377183038
I don't know if it was my Wii; Both Other M and Prime had bugs that got me stuck, and I lost interest.
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>>377183038
Nah, it was crap
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No, its still shit

It had shit gameplay, and even shitter plot that forces itself on the gameplay.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfS0254dRRw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX4mhp-8sOc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzIW2g7jFvI
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>Bounty hunter
>Taking orders from anybody

I haven't played but someone explain this shit to me.
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>>377185738
Pinball deserves higher tbqh
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>>377185819
In order to invesitgae the Baby's Cry signal from the Bottleship, Samus had to co-operate with federation troops lead by Adam.

Yes, that Adam from Fusion nut for some reason Other M Adam is so dumb an incompetent that Zap Brannigan is more competent
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>>377183038
Beginning of her career? This is the second to last game in the timeline currently you blithering idiot
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>>377186028
thanks for pointing that out, I was too focused on OP lying about the Metacritic Score.

>>377185931
see
>>377185979
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>>377185979
>Samus had to co-operate

Why?
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>>377185887
It's all shit. These are the same people who defend Other M and somehow still think that Star Fox, Earthbound, and F-Zero should make a come back regardless of how dated and irrelevant they are now.
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>>377186223
because otherwise they would not let her say on the ship.

Did we mention that Other M is fucking dumb?
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The Baby..
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>>377183038
>beginning of her career
I can't tell if this is a part of your trolling or not.
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>>377186301

They had to call Samus to do what they couldn't (Take out Mother Brain) but they're not gonna LET her stay on some ship?

Please, Samus could wipe them out without breaking a sweat. She must want Adams dick or something.
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>>377185819
So because Japan doesn't know how bounty hunters work, Samus the bounty Hunter really means hero of justice. Which is stupid but let's go with it.

Anyway in MOM Samus meets with her old CO, Adam, who responded to the same distress call she did. Adam is mad that Samus left the galactic federation so he basically told her to fuck off. But since Samus's nuclear suit is too good an asset to pass up he grudgingly allows her to follow his unit under the conditions that she follows his every order.

This is stupid for a lot of reasons to avoid a wall of text I'll name 3. First Samus is under no obligation to listen to this cunt. She really could've just left and let them all die, she's not on contract with the Federation nor is she a soldier anymore. Second, Samus remarks that this is the first time she's worked co-op with the feds since she left as if Prime 3 didn't happen. Trolls will say Prime was non canon but then I'll point them to the link where Sakamoto says Prime was a Gaiden tale that did happen. As if his word means anything considering the million plot holes in this one game that I won't get into. Third, Samus follows Adam to the point of stupidity, refusing to use life saving equipment because Adam didn't specifically give her permission to do so.
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>>377186465
>She must want Adams dick or something.

she treated Adam's words like they came from God himself.

and yet this guy ended up being the most likeable guy in the game
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Wait, why are posts being deleted? What's going on?
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>now that the dust has settled
Sorry anon. This is just bait.
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>>377186518

This whole story line sounds fucking retarded.

They should've left her backstory a mystery. Nintendo just fucks everything up when they try to flesh out characters like this.

Glad I didn't waste any time on this turd.
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>>377186109
I will never forgive Other M for being LESS lore friendly than fucking Federation Force.

Like, Jesus, that game was shit, but at least it didn't shit on every single atom of backstory and history the series had.
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>>377183038
>and it's believable because this was at the beginning of her career

I don't remember my feelings on the gameplay as it was a while ago and I didn't bother to finish the game, but don't fucking lie moron. This is the second to last game in the chronology of the series. Gets your facts right before you start spewing shit
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>>377186564
This is why you need a team of writers rather than one waifufag in an echo chamber

>You don't move until I say so, you don't fire until I say so
>I felt strangely exhilarated and excited as I said "understood"

What the fuck? I'm paraphrasing Samus's line here but I can pull up the exact scene. But the point being that this is stupid. No one thinks or acts this way. This is Sakamoto's boner talking to us right now.
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>>377186656

>pretending you've never heard of Nintendo-shill Janitors.

First day?
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>>377187002
it's just one guy who deleted his post and reposted it as >>377185931
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>all this crying and entitlement
Metroid truly has the bottom of the barrel fanbase
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>>377187195
>all this crying and entitlement
Fuck off MovieBob
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>>377183486
You're not even trying, Anon.
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>>377187195
what crying?

It's a legitimately bad game
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>>377183671
It doesn't have anything to do with Prime.
That's just the go-to response for these kinds of trolls.
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>>377186564
Anthony was the only good part about Other M.
I honestly hope he returns some time.
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>>377187195

Little late to be working, ain't it?
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>>377186851
Oh trust me you've barely entered the rabbit hole. Spare yourself the game and watch the cutscenes on YouTube. Watch the whole goddamn thing. There's so much shit that makes no sense.

I think probably the worst scene in the entire game is when Adam makes his "heroic sacrifice." Adam goes incommunicado so Samus goes looking for him. Before reaching sector zero she runs into a Metroid. Before she could react Adam shoots SAMUS in the back, deactivating her armor. How did her armor break down from a single shot from a standard, troopers ice beam? Don't ask questions. So Adam kills the Metroid and Samus asks the obvious question

>why did you shoot me?
>because you can't defeat these metroids. They're immune to ice
>but the ones you just killed wasn't
>because it was in its larval state

Hold on, aren't ALL natural Metroids like that? They're vulnerable to ice but they lose that weakness as they grow? And why did you have to shoot Samus? She's better at killing Metroids than you are. Why not just yell? Oh because you didn't want her to kill herself destroying sector zero. You'd rather kill yourself instead by blowing up sector zero. With the self destruct sequence that can only be activated from the inside. And Samus is left to cry like a bitch while you walk off to your death. Wait what's the point of armor that deactivates when you need it most?

Fuck it I quit. I can't do this shit again.
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>>377187476
He's the only one who had a genuine personality. Everyone else including Adam existed solely to die.
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DISTRESS SIGNAL: BABY'S CRY.

IT WAS CALLED BABY'S CRY BECAUSE IT WAS IMPORTANT AND MEANT TO DRAW ATTENTION WITH THE URGENCY OF A BABY'S CRY.

IMAGINE THAT! A DISTRESS SIGNAL THAT'S SO IMPORTANT YOU'RE ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO INVESTIGATE IT! WHAT A CONCEPT.
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>>377186851
I feel the same about the God of War series when they kept pimping out the prequels.
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>>377187793
Commander faggot: I'm going to send in a crack team to the bottle ship to find out what happened. But I'm also going to plant an assassin to kill anyone on the ship who knows what happened including his own team members
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Why did they never elaborate on Sylux.
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>>377187793
Oh man that babby image takes me back. /v/ memes have changed for the worse.
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>>377188054
Will the Krikens ever take over the galaxy?
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I went to wally world to pick up some compressed air last night and they still had copies of this game ON THE SHELF for full-price $60. What the actual fuck.
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>>377187195
Just like Mega Man and Sonic, Metroid has an unbearable fandom.
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>>377188143
Never.
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>>377185979
It's pretty jarring that AI Adam is more of a reasonable person than the actual Adam.
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>>377188171
The "Always low prices" sales pitch worked.
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>>377188054
He was basically an OC designed for the Hunters Multiplayer.
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The thumbs-up sign had been used by the Galactic Federation for ages. Me, I was known for giving the thumbs-down during briefing. I had my reasons, though... Commander Adam Malkovich was normally cool and not one to joke around, but he would end all of his mission briefings by saying, "any objections, lady?" He was joking, but others weren't. At the time I felt surrounded by people who treated me like a child or used kid gloves because I was a woman. And yet, with Adam, I was grateful for the nod... My past has left me with an uneasy soul, and as a result, it touched me on some level that Adam would acknowledge that past by calling me something delicate -- like "Lady." And I knew more than anyone that every word from Adam was deliberate. My thumbs-down was a two-fold response: a sign of derision at being called a lady, and a signal of my complete understanding of the mission orders. The other soldiers were always willing to support me with easy smiles, despite the fact that I clearly had so much yet to learn. Among them was Anthony. In the face of his well-meaning behavior, and that of other soldiers, my response was to become increasingly bitter. I was a child, always with something to prove. A chip on my shoulder. And I was angry. I felt that if I let my guard down, I would easily by broken. And beyond that, I was scared. But even in the naivete of my youth, I could see in Adam's joking manner how close he felt to me. Adam knows my past. And he knows me better than anyone else. Confession time. Because I was so young when I lost both of my parents, there's no question I saw Adam as a father figure. When I rebelled against him, I knew I could get away with it. And his paternal compassion in the face of my rebellion reinforced the special bond I felt with him. I understood well that chances were slim that I would ever find anyone that understood me like Adam. And yet... When the time came, I still left his side. I was so young. Young and naive...
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Other M is the video game version of How I Became Yours
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>>377188729
>Random ass military commander is her father figure
>As opposed to her real biological father and her TWO bird dads who made her an unstoppable murder machine
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>obvious shitty troll thread baitposting
>already 60 replies and 33 IPs
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>The One Competent officer in the Federation.
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>>377186970
It was 50 Shades of Grey type shit.
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Horrible gameplay and mediocre soundtrack. Not to mention that hideous mole.
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>>377188956
Not to mention that it's always okay when Adam does it. I'm not kidding, Samus is cool with everything Adam does and says. I hate being treated like a kid but not when Adam does it. I hate being treated delicate because I'm a woman but not when Adam does it. I'm so fragile on the inside, so I know I can run to Adam.

The ONLY thing Adam has ever done that pissed Samus off was not letting her save his brother. Which is why she quit. Only to run back to his command the first chance she got and to think to herself "maybe I was the asshole there."
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>>377188934
What the fuck is this shit?
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>>377189492
>Never heard of HIBY

It's better if you don't know
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>>377189583
But I want to know
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>>377188957
Well yeah, obviously, but any excuse to openly riff and shit on Other M will always be a welcome topic for discussion on /v/, even seven years after the game's been out.
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>>377189640
Ask /co/.
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>>377189640
Imagine a 300 page shipping comic that completely destroys the characters of everyone you love.

>Toph fucking Aang in the Avatar state
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>>377189671
MOM is one of those therapeutic games that feel good to tear into. It's like Mass Effect 3. Or FUCK YOU featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series
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>>377189671
True, but there's not a lot more to say about it, everyone knows it's a fucking turd with not a single gracing save and it killed metroid forever, it literally doesn't have a single good thing at all.

I mean, it's so bad the only people who "defend it" are shills and different breeds of nintenbros with petty insults or classic strawman unrelated to the game, because the game just doesn't have a single, good, feature.

Godfuckingdamn, I'll never stop getting angry for what this shitty game did.
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how's the worst, very autistic, and most annoying Nintendo fanbase holding up after 7 years of Metroid: Other M?

sucks doesn't it?
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>>377190212
>because the game just doesn't have a single, good, feature.
It runs at a consistent 60fps and is one of the best looking games on the Wii. Those are literally the only redeeming qualities.
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Excellent bait thread. Let the hatred flow through you, this game deserves to be dragged to its death behind an f-150.
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>>377183038
>no baring on gameplay
my problem with the game WAS the gameplay.
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>>377183038
I am willing to give the benifit of the doubt that, to some people other than me, the gameplay was not the worst thing ever barring a couple of completely fucking awful design choices like the lack of a nunchuck, the forced walking, and the search sections.

The story and script are the worst things I've ever seen. Litterally-- no, hyperbole, if you replaced the script these people had to read with a random word generator and got the cast of House of the Dead 2 to do the voice work, it still would have come off as a more well thought out product than Other M.
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>>377187476
I don't. He's likeable in a corny B-movie kind of way, but his existence in the series is not worth Other M remaining canon.
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>>377188143
I'd kill for a game to focus on the Kriken. These guys are apparently worse than the space pirates, and Trace, judging by his lore, wasn't even considered an adult yet in Hunters and could still hold his own.
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I liked the game when it came out. Idk why, maybe my standarda were low back then. I replayed it last year though and vomited from how awful it is. It's so fucking bad.
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>>377188729
You know what it is? This almost looks presentable if it was in diary format-- and even then, it only LOOKS almost presentable. It still sounds like dog shit if you read it out loud. My guess is that Sakamoto never actually had these lines said out loud before he put them in the voice actor's hands.
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>>377190709
>best looking game on Wii
Please, Gamecube games look better.
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>Actually like the whole corrupt GF angle
>The whole deleter subplot was actually interesting, and the fact that they never outright say who it is is a really cool aspect
>These few good aspects will forever be regarded as shit because they were stuck in Other M
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>>377190709
The fuck it is. It all has the blandest textures mixed with monochrome color schemes that never blend and a cartoony art style that looks dumb even compared to the earlier 2D game art styles.
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>>377183038
If you're too stupid to find videos explaining on a fundamental level why it's not a metroid game, then I'll give you a summary of the bad.

>controls
Using a D-pad is not good for a 3rd person action game. If only they allowed you to play with wiimote + nunchuck, it would've been a much better experience.

>progression
You already have the means to reach everywhere in the game from the start but 2 things hold you back.
Artificial locked off areas and only being allowed to use upgrades (you already have installed) when Adam lets you.

I'm not even getting into the story or all the little nitpicks I could list on forever.

I really want Nintendo to release a good third person action Metroid, because in the right hands, it could be an amazing Metroid game
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>>377185979
>Zap Brannigan
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>>377191354
>it's a "the government is secretly evil" plot
>that plot is literally copy and pasted from Fusion except with even LESS nuance
>the deleter subplot literally just forgotten about completely until late in development so they never wrote an ending for it

Anon you may be retarded.
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Best boss in the 2D games. Completely butchered in Other M.
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People who unironically like Other M might actually be more delusional than trumpfags.
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>>377191354
>Corrupt GF
It's been done to death, and if the federation were that way Samus would literally take on the federation.
>deleter subplot
The federation sends an investigative party, and commands one member to kill the rest of his party? Why would they even send the investigative party in the first place? Just nuke the fucking space station. Plus "the deleter" is so stupid sounding it's like a bad fanfic.
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>>377191501
>Kiff is Admiral Dane.
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>>377191354
I remember one line in the game I kind of liked. One, single, line, and even then I think they fucked it up. It's when Samus and the others find out the federation were making bioweapons and she monologues near a window.

"Life, in whatever form it takes in this often cruel existence, should not be tampered with. That was Adam's philosophy... I wonder what Adam thought of me?... Suddenly, I was concerned with his opinion again."

I like the idea of Samus worrying that Adam sees her as an aberation since she's a genetic hybrid, especially if he didn't find out about it until after she left his command. It'd give a plausible explaination why Adam is acting like such a jackass.

But I don't even know if that's what they meant. For all I know, Sakamoto just wanted Samus to point the narrative back on his self-insert again.
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>>377191619
Because Other M is chronologically before Fusion, I like to think of fusion's nightmare as the new and improved version.
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>>377191501
>Laughed so hard I got a smokers cough.
Fuck that final boss fight.
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>>377191661
Prime 3 portrayed the Federation as benevolent and competent, if a bit overstretched in the outer rim territories.
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>>377189745
I'm not gonna go there

>>377189925
>300 pages
Holy fuck. for how long has this been a thing?
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>>377191619
They butchered Fusions ending, too. Samus escaping with a companion and some pets seemed like the happiest ending she ever had at the time. Now all I can think about is the fucking creepy abusive relation subtext following Samus around in her ship with her like a parasite.
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>>377188171
I feel really bad for any poor soul who accidentally buys that, I got it for $8 a few months after release and I still felt like I paid too much.
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>>377191857
Fucking admiral DANE in this bitch.
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>>37719166
im pretty sure they were trying to recover the sensitive material inside, but then again I haven't played MOM in a long time.
I fully agree that the name is stupid though.
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>>377191423
Reminds me that some dude wrote a 17-18 page essay on why the game's story is shit.
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>>377191951
The idea is that the distress signal went off because everyone was dying and their mother brain clone, and all the other clones, were running rampant. But the GF didn't want everyone knowing that they were cloning mother brain and metroids within the bottle ship. So for public face they sent Adam and his team to investigate but they also planted the deleter to kill anyone who learned what really happened. What they didn't expect was for Samus to hear the distress signal and show up. They kind of fucked everything over.
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>>377191537
i just like the idea of one of your friends secretly being a double agent mystery assassin who is trying to kill you.
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>>377192170
If someone needs to take that long to explain why a game is shit, then it's possibly not shit.
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>>377191501
Oh man, that's genius
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Just saw this thread so I don't know what it's evolved into, but I didn't mind other M as much as I thought I would.

I pirated it and thought I'd at least try it out and I didn't think it was nearly as bad as everyone says. It's a pretty decent game. I enjoyed my time with it.

Yeah, it doesn't measure up to the primes or super, but it was still a good vidya experience. I can't really hate on it.

Played every metroid game but never got into the lore too much so maybe that's it. I see it more as just a spin off...kind of like metroid hunters on the Ds.
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>>377183038
>It's got an 89% on MetaCritic.
This isn't an argument. God Hand has a 73% on Metacritic. Bioshock Infinite has a 94%. See?
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>>377191926
I actually got it free when I bought the Prime Trilogy, the guy basically said "Take it."
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>>377191895
HIBY is old. Years old. I actually tried to read the whole thing critically years ago. I only made it through the first book. Yes there's more than one book in that epic. And all of it is retarded.
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>>377191951
>The corrupt government has exactly one corrupt soldier they can send in to do corrupt things, instead of a whole team of corrupt soldiers who will work as a team to accomplish corrupt things faster.
New levels of stupid achieved.
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>>377192247
From what I remember it systematically breaks down the story. But here's the link if you have some time to burn:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13373815860B43920100&i_id=13373815860I43921400&p=1
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>>377192170
Other M: The Elephant in the Room.
>tl;dr Other M romanticizes a textbook abusive relationship and paints it as heroic, and Sakamoto is probably a misogynistic virgin.
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>>377192342
Really why did this happen to begin with? You watch the Space Pirates kill themselves trying to control Metroids. You send Samus to exterminate them because they're too dangerous. And then you try to do the exact same thing the Space Pirates did?
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>>377192342
>>377191951
Okay, here's the thing: if they wanted to kill their guys for finding this shit out, why not just not send them in? If they wanted the metroids, why send in someone like Adam who might let morality get in the way of orders?
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>>377192247
It's actually pretty well thought out-- it nails exactly why the thing between Samus and Adam feels so infuriating.
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>>377192505
Maybe they wanted to get rid of Adam for being an incompetent idiot.
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>>377192340
Oh man
I was aware of the "My Immortal" fanfic which was a stupidly long HP fanfic but somehow not this
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Walk into any Wal-Mart and I guarantee you they still have Other M, it's there forever like the GTA trilogy and Diablo 2 Battlechest.
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>>377192505
Because fuck you that's why. Really they don't give an explanation. It also makes Samus look retroactively retarded. By the end of MOM Samus knows the GF are corrupt. They tried to arrest her. Then tried to kill her. But at the beginning of Fusion she's still working for them. Why?
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>>377192505
And they try again in Fusion-- in almost an exact replica of the facility that got fucked over before. Also kind of weird that Samus seems a lot more dismissive of the baby in Fusion than she was in Other M.
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>>377192467
No, Mother, May I see Metroid: Other M. Though I've heard of the other one too.
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>>377192602
>Diablo 2 Battlechest.

Wow that's some nostalgia I didn't expect.
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>One of the Bosses is literally a piece of construction equipment.
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>>377183038
>le ironic shitposting
gb2reddit kiddo
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>>377192602
It was still full price five years after release. The same copies are in the cheap bin now.
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>>377192648
At the beginning of Fusion they also essentially save her life. If she knows they're corrupt and they know she knows they're corrupt, why would they save her?
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>>377192574
He's not an alien Cthulhu killer in a bird messiah suit, he's just a regular ass human. They could have killed him while he was asleep at a base or something.
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>>377192587
I read enough to get some sort of plot out of that garbled mess. Mainly Zuko had an arranged marriage with Mai but he loves Katara so they start fucking on the side. And he abandons his dying kingdom to be with Katara in Toph's vacation home in the Earth Kingdom. Also Toph is fucking Aang. Also Sokka is fucking Azula. Oh yeah she has amnesia now I forgot. It's a mess. One big gloriously retarded mess.
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>>377192683
I'd be fine with that if it was, like, a laser driller or something. Instead it just feels like they wanted to copy Aliens in a way the series really hasn't needed to do in years.
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>>377192876
Bitch you best believe its hammertime.
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>>377191501
It's sad that this would actually improve the game's logic compared to what we actually got.
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>>377183038
Is there anything good about this game besides short hair Samus?
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>>377183038
This is too extreme for me i can't deal with this
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>>377192725
Because MOM isn't allowed to make any sense. It's like in Fusion Samus's armor has to be surgically removed. And they couldn't even get it all. But in the mission prior, Samus's suit is run on willpower. When Samus's will breaks, the suit turns off and she's left with the Zero Suit. This also applies when she falls unconscious. So why didn't the suit just turn off at the beginning of Fusion?
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>>377189406
It's fucking awful that THIS was why she left-- she's supposed to be a Chozo warrior sworn to protect the galaxy, and she left the largest crime fighting force in the galaxy because of a tiff she had with her CO.
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>>377192992
Wanananana
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>>377193128
Because Other M is not canon.
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>>377191661
>>377191537
the evil government plot allows samus to show her rebel side.
it was executed poorly but samus saying fuck off to military officials is nice.
the best part of other m was when she activates the space jump herself, while asking "Any objections Adam?"
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>3D platformer
>you move with the dpad, first person mode is the only way to shoot missiles you can't move at all in it
>hold 2 (IIRC) and tilt the wiimote to not die
>press the dpad to autododge and gain a free charge shot
>invisible walls and autolocking doors
No. The absolute best thing you can say about the game is that the flashy finisher moves were cool to look at for the first 5 times.
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>>377183038
Never understood the hate for it in the first place. The gameplay was fine, so I'm assuming most of /v/'s ire towards the game comes from its story.
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>>377193592
there shouldn't be a reason she has to tell them to fuck off in the first place given how they were built up in previous games
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>>377185916
You could really easily tell how much love was put into the Prime Series compared to Other M.
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>>377187002
I got banned the other day for posting that the Xbox One sold better than the Wii U and Gamecube combined after seeing the 50 thousandth thread saying how much of a failure they are in the console market.

I mean I guess I was wrong in the combined sense but the mods probably wouldn't give a fuck about semantics, and the Bone has still sold about double what the Wii U did.
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>>377183038
>It's got an 89% on MetaCritic.

Which means jack fucking shit.
It's a terrible metroid game and just because you have buyer's remorse doesn't mean we're here to help with your bad feelings.
That shitty game killed off the metroid series because it was bad in all aspects. Stop beating that dead horse and let it RIP in peace.
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>>377187652
I didn't even get far enough in the game to witness that bullshit. Glad I pirated it.
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>play Other M first because it was cheap
>Eh, don't see why everyone is assblasted. Wasn't good but wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be.
>Eventually branch out to other metroid games
>reach Fusion
>mfw playing through and realizing that almost everything in Other M ripped of Fusion
How does anyone defend this game? When I hit Nightmare in Fusion I was about ready to go into an autistic rage.
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>>377193592
>Show her rebel side
by taking orders from an asshat that she could vaporize?

>best part
>the part where she continues to wait to activate her powers that she could have activated at the beginning, while going "teehee I hope my boyfriend doesn't get mad at me!"
Yeah no, this is rebellious the way an amateur porn star acts rebellious.
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>>377190212
>because the game just doesn't have a single, good, feature.

I will slightly disagree with you and present the ONE good thing about Other M.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efdWNCh4XhA
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>>377194340
Ridley looks like a retarded purple duck in Other M.
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Other M is a shit game, but the problem is that it's completely functional.
It's not something like Sonic '06 where it's just broken beyond believe. Everything works as intended in Other M, for better or worse.
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>>377185589
>fusion had like two and prime 3 really only had the grapple lasso

Fusion had the redesigned suits (And technically, the built-in power grip)

Prime 3 had the PED suit, the gunship upgrades, the Hyper Ball, the Hyper Missile, Grapple Voltage, Nova Beam, Hazard Shield, Hyper Grapple. That's more than even Prime 1 added.

>instead of missiles, e tanks, and powerbombs like in fusion, zero mission, and super? wow big difference

Other M didn't have fun elaborate puzzles to get them like the games you mentioned. They're barely secrets.
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>>377194426
And Sakurai somehow made him look even worse.
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>>377194580
>Man people sure hate our latest Metroid game
>Lets make it so that the newest smash bros has nothing but Other M Metroid!
Was this Nintendo trying to save the game, or Nintendo being assblasted?
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>>377194426
Take that back, he looks nothing like a duck
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>>377192229
theres nothing inherently wrong with the idea. It was just executed extremely poorly in a shit game. Imagine if they applied the secret backstabber idea to one of your bounty hunter buddies from the beginning of Corruption.
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>>377194853
Sakurai uses the latest materials from the franchises, except when he decides not to like with Zelda and leaving everyone as their TP designs.
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>>377194853
I personally gave up when they changed the Prime suit to the plasticy Other M suit with the pea shooter.
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>>377195145
Or pretty much every other franchise. Mario is still using Fludd. Yoshi and Kirby didn't have yarn skins. Megaman was retro as fuck. Wiifit trainer used the old design. Bayonetta had her clothes from both games. Cloud had two different looks. Ryu didn't have a beard. And most of the characters in the game have a look that is unique to smash bros. Only with Metroid did it seem that they were obsessed with everything being based on the "latest materials".
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I liked the game though I fully admit there were problems with it.
1) story was derp.
2) upgrade unlocking made sense that they needed to have progression for samus but how you unlocked it was stupid
3) game is too short. Not enough to explore
4) pixel hunt was dumb

Annoyance mostly but not enough for me to denounce the game. I liked it and thought it was a good first step into a 3D metroid that need to be expanded upon more.

Fix controls, remove the story, make new upgrades, expanded the world exploration.

Most of the idiots in here just blindly hate without looking at context. It's an easy to hate because it's not super or prime for the most part.
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>>377196393
>without looking at context.
It's hated BECAUSE people look at it with context. Here we have an absolute dud of a game in the same franchise that has Super/Prime along with one of two games that made the Genre for God's Sake. It's easy to hate because it's a legitimately bad game, especially in comparison to it's predecessors.

And if you need to fix that many things about it, then maybe it's not good.
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>>377196393
I played through it, and I disagree. It would be acceptable if it were titled "Duke Nukem Forever" or another franchise that didn't have certain expectations behind it, but as a Metroid game, it is the most terrible piece of garbage, because it shits on every Metroid game that came before it. If you ever played Super or Prime, then playing Other M makes you feel dirty. It's as though your favorite restaurant deliberately took a shit in every entree you ever liked, and now you can't ever eat those meals again without thinking of the time that there was steaming shit in them. Other M is why we have Federation Force instead of a real Metroid game. Other M is why smash fags will know Ridley as an ugly ass purple duck. Other M is why I am up at 2am on 4chan instead of sleeping. This game was shit, but shit that managed to contaminate so much, and destroy something that was good. There is no excuse for this garbage. It's easy to hate because it destroyed a legacy.
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>>377196707
>'s hated BECAUSE people look at it with context.

No they don't. People bitch a ton about Adam yet keep forgetting Samus see's him as a father figure and understands how he commands his troops.

People super sperg out over how she reacts to him and ignore those facts. So no, people don't look at it in context. They never have. They are looking for any petty reason to hate cause it's not super or prime.
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>>377197242
Prime destroyed a legacy. It split the entire fanbase and both prime2 and 3 were shit. There hasn't been a good metroid since prime. That's were everything went wrong.
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>>377197642
>>377197712
I'm done. Goodnight trolls
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>>377183038
I don't care how good or bad the game is.

It's not a Metroid game and I sure as shit blame it for killing the series.
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>>377197712
This guy gets it.
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>>377185779
As far as I know none of the Prime games have any glitches that stop progress unless you're going out of your way to break the game. Other M does have that door glitch on some copies of the game though.
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>>377198012
>>377197712
>>377197642
It's so cute how people think that pretending to defend Other M is something intelligent to do.
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>>377197642
People hate Adam much more of a game mechanic than anything because of the things he did like not allow Samus to have her Varia suit on on a volcano and unnecessarily restricting her suit. If there really was such a strong bond between the two you would think Adam would trust Samus to not run around like a crazed madman dropping Power Bombs everywhere instead of needing to block and later authorize each and every power-up. Do you know how annoying it is to see what power-up you need right in front of you, know story wise that you already have it in your suit, but Adam won't let you use it for no reason at all? That's the primary source of the hate right there.

People also hate Adam because Adam himself is a cardboard cutout for the entire game until he suddenly knows there are metroids on the ship and that he also knows they're ice resistant (but not explosive resistant apparently). We only get any kind of character reference on him from Samus herself during her long-ass monologues.
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>>377197712
This, we really need a 2.5D Fusion sequel.
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>>377197642
>everyone in the game sucks Adam's cock like it dispenses candy
>Samus practically grovels at his feet and rolls over to everything he says
>"I hated being treated like a child, except when Adam did it, becaise I really am a child"
>Adam can see and hear everything his troops and Samus say and do yet he's unable to figure out who The Deleter is
>Adam steals the final area of the game from the player
>even after he's dead Samus goes back solely to get his helmet

Let's also not forget that Samus' father figures are Old Bird and Gray Voice, established in Zero Mission and the official manga. Sakamoto ignored that just like he ignored every single other Metroid-related material so he could make his personal fanfiction where Samus cries after her father figure shoots her in the back with a magical ice weapon that does what not even Mother Brain's Hyper Beam could do: instantly paralyze and knock Samus unconscious, WHILE A METROID IS THREE FEET FROM HER.
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>>377187043
Not defending Other M because I hate that piece of shit but the right looks like Metroid, the left looks like generic shit.
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>>377198729
Explain how the left is "generic" and "not Metroid".
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>>377183038

I really liked it, but the dub was shit and made Samus seem like a crybaby.

It's good in Japanese, though.
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>>377198826
Left tries to be too realistic which has never been the point of Metroid if you actually played the 2D games. Prime art style compared to the 2D games have always been off. Other M does have some of the classic designs but then fucks everything up with generic Team Ninja over designs that 2D Metroid games weren't known for.
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>>377183038
>b-but muh samus had to take orders from a man!
I can't believe newfags actually believe that this is the primary or even sole complaint people levy at the game. Do some fucking research or lurk more, faggot.
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>>377192472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZoAr1Y4tf4
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>>377199269
>realism

Left is about as realistic as Fable. Right is trying too hard to be anime, and if you ever looked at the non-Samis characters' faces in MOM they look more realistic than anything in the Prime series.
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>>377199338
You do know people make these threads solely as bait.
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>>377199575
I can care less about Other M's ugly designs, you fucked up when you used Metroid Fusion's versions of the Space Pirates in your image. Metroid 1-4 all had superior art direction to the Prime series. If you're going to make comparisons next time use images only from Other M and not the 2D games.
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>if you don't praise Metroid: Other M, you're the worst fanbase ever

How interesting. Please Nintendo fans, do tell me about how Other M is a great game, but cinematic experiences are bad when any other company does it.
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>>377183038
>refill health and ammo by literally pressing a button
>press button to autokill enemies
>can't move while in first-person
>first-person pixel hunting
>game looks like dogshit, literally worse than a GC title
>most linear game besides Fusion, in a franchise known for being nonlinear
No, fuck you. From a story perspective, from a gameplay perspective, and from a presentation perspective, this thing was ass.
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>>377199732
>your image

Will you fucking faggots stop accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being the creator of something?
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@377199752
[you]
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>>377199906

>makes post for the sole purpose of saying (You)
>doesn't actually link to the post, making your post completely meaningless

How many layers of irony are you on?
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>>377199857
Like I'm supposed to know that, the person that made that was a Prime faggot for using Fusion's Space Pirates over Other M's abominations. How does that mother fucker use two images from Other M and then uses one from a 2D game? Seems like he was trying to take a pot shot at the 2D games when he made that image.
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>>377199269
Miyamoto literally forbid Retro from using the oldschool monster designs because he felt that it would seem like nostalgia baiting. This was the prototype space pirate.
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>>377200012
When's he joining Iwata?
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>>377200012
It's a shame Miyamoto has lost his fucking mind recently because it sounds like he wanted to make sure Metroid Prime was good, and now look what's fucking done to Paper Mario, and if memory serves right, he's to blame for the forcing of those shitty motion controls of star fox
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>>377192716
>MPTrilogy was a limited release and is now a rare collector's commodity
>unwanted, un-sellabale of copies of MOM are continueing to this day to clutter shelf space in stores instead of rotting in a landfill next to the Atari graveyard
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>>377199819
To be fair Retro actually employed real, genuine wizards to cast spell on the graphics of the game. The level of craftsmanship on every surface and texture is fucking mind-boggling, especially for a gamecube game.
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>>377194426
He's the third stage of a Pokemon-esque evolutionary cycle that also consists of a retarded purple chickenlizard and a literal furby, give him a break.
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>>377191537
>that plot is literally copy and pasted from Fusion except with even LESS nuance
Because in Fusion the closest thing to "evil" that the Federation was doing was just being a bit too power-grabby, and really wanting to be able to weaponize the metroids, which could feasibly have countless positive influences on the galaxy. Nothing going on at the BSL was morally dark or corrupt or being carried out with the intention of nefarious purposes, it was all genuine research.
The entire conflict between Samus and the Federation was portrayed as the Federation just failing to properly evaluate the threat level of the X Parasites, and placing far too much value on the Metroid research samples. Samus felt she was better suited to make the call on how dangerous the X were and how worth it the Metroid research would be, and that's why she disobeyed orders (she was also in the right here).
Other M just full-on states that the Federation is corrupt and willing to go out of its way to kill innocent people in order to cover up their unethical and poorly motivated research labs on the bottle ship.
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>>377186518
>then I'll point them to the link where Sakamoto says Prime was a Gaiden tale that did happen
requesting this for curiosity
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>>377200117
>now look what's fucking done to Paper Mario
Nothing, that's all Tanabe.
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>377200005
>can't into the art of (You)-deprival
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>>377200226
>to be fair
No. Metroid Prime came out fucking 8 years before Other M on a console with less graphical power and it looks obscenely better on every single aspect than Other M. If anything you would expect the game from 2000 and fucking 2 to need the advantage in this scenario. It shouldn't matter whatever techniques Retro used because the studio that made OM had a solid 8 years of technological advancement on them.
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>>377200637
If memory serves right, Miyamoto is to blame regarding the stage based design and removal of the focus on partners
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>>377187476
He was unoriginal and boring, but he stood out in Other M because he was literally the only character written to be likeable or have an sociable personality.
It also helped that because he wasn't designed to die, he was able to just be there and be a cool dude, not dragged down into this mess of a plot to die a "dramatic and moving" death.
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>>377188054
Because Prime Hunters is non-canon, even though I wish it wasn't. They could do a lot of cool stuff with the characters from that.
But instead we got Other M.
Worst timeline.
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horrible gameplay, ruined lore

PHANTOON

No one likes it when a non-fan is given authority over a beloved series
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>>377198729
I have to disagree, I think the Prime designs are really distinct and recognizable.
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>>377189185
Everyone in Prime 3 was competent, I want more of that Federation.
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>>377200925
Give me a source on that, sempee. I think you're talking out your ass.
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I agree OP.

It's a good game, shame that /v/ is too imature.
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>*Shoots you in the back*
>I need to blow up the metroids which you Samus Aran obviously could not do
>We also can't jettison it without being inside and blow up the section from the outside
>Ship gets blown up anyway
Adam was kinda stupid
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>>377190709
>one of the best looking games on the Wii
I mean... it has good quality textures I guess?
But the art and colour design is 100% ass, it's easily one of the ugliest games on the Wii.
It tries for a gritty realistic style with its environments, but not only keeps all of the kinda cartoonishly designed enemies from the series, which already look fucking wierd in 3D, but also cranks all of their colours into neon territory for no reason. It's fucking hideous.
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>>377200981
I guess when you put it like this. I still wished Miyamoto would have let Retro add more classic designs for the Pirates and some of the enemies in the game.
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>>377190709
>It runs at a consistent 60fps and is one of the best looking games on the Wii
THIS.

Why do people always try and ignore this?
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>>377185738
Why does Other M have such an unusually high user score? Did it gather a fucking cult like Sonic Adventures or Bioshock Infinite?
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>>377190709
>one of the best looking games on the Wii

>>377199819
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>>377200726

>(You) deprival


This is low grade shitposting.
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>>377201349
60 FPS means nothing if the gameplay itself sucks. The game itself just looks offputting even in the perty pre-rendered cutscenes.
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>>377190626
Metroid fan base sucks but FE isn't a shining example of good Nintendo fanbases.

Good Nintendo Fanbases:
>Donkey Kong, Kirby, Xeno, Pikmin

>Too Diffused with Mainstream
>Mario, Zelda

>SHIT TIER
>FE, Metroid
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>>377186851
Other M is pretty much universally ignored as it not only conflicts with other games' stories and lore, but it also sizes down Samus and gives her emotions she's never displayed before or after.

Metroid continuity is a joke outside of Prime.
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>>377201410
>60 FPS means nothing
Huh. Metroid babbies are a funny breed.
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>>377183486
>Primebabby
That sounds like something to be proud of, considering how good that series was.
So, are you going to defend Other M, or do you just need attention? We're not your babysitters.
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>>377201465

>he says while defending Zelda's 30 FPS
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^377201402
>make a bait post looking for (you)
>spergs out when he doesn't get it
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>>377201417
>gaym is bad cuz le fanbase is hur and dur
Fuck off, retard.
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>>377183281
first post best post
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>>377201520
>game is bad
I never said that, just commenting that FE and Metroid fanbases both suck and you shouldn't be throwing stones.
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>>377192268
The gameplay is enough to just be fun, because despite the glaring flaws in its control design, the game is easy enough that combat still flows smoothly, and the cinematic approach to every encounter in the game allows you to get pulled in and distracted. It's not a game meant to test your skills, which works in its favour. I am certain that aspect was not intentional.
And if you're ignoring the story/lore and turning your brain off for cutscenes of course it's not going to but you either.
If you just relax and don't think about Other M at all while playing it, it can be an average and sometimes fun game.
It's just that the moment you stop to really think about any aspect, the whole thing begins unravelling and falling apart uncontrollably as each question prompts 5 more, and none of them have logical answers, assuming they even have answers in the first place.
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>>377201465
Read the rest of the sentence nimrod. Tell me what good a game running well does if the game itself isn't good. It makes the experience less grating. I'm walking through a microwave hallway, but at least I'm not doing wading through acid.
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>>377188231
No it doesn't. Just because a fandom is getting shit on and is rightfully angry for that happening doesn't mean they're bad. Bad fandoms are like Smash, Call of Duty, Sony, Legend of Zelda, etc.
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>>377201429
Honestly it's been kinda fucked ever since Return of Samus. It was a mistake to have the main antagonist creatures that lend the series its name be totally exterminated in the second fucking game. After that point everything had to either be a prequel to Metroid 2 (Prime series) or feature some hackneyed genetic cloning plot (Super, Fusion) in order to even include the titular enemies.
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>>377201579
>what good a game running well does
That should be apparent anon...

You Metroid fans and your Story > Gameplay mentality just confuse me.
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>>377201569
>>377201515
see>>377201520

Calling people fags and retards for criticizing a game really doesn't convince anyone that a fanbase is bad.
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>>377201614
>Honestly it's been kinda fucked ever since Return of Samus
It's always the second game in the series, god dammit.
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>>377201614
The fact that Metroids were made by the Chozo means that there are easy lore reasons for them to show up again.

Not that they need to be in every game. There are TLoZ games without Zelda in them. There are Mario games without playable Mario. Metroid's gone without metroids before.
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>>377201694
I was just making a passing comment that FE fanbase is not better than the Metroid fanbase and shouldn't be judging others.
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>>377201574
>allows you to get pulled in and distracted
No it doesn't
>Dodge
>charge shot
>cinematic
repeat and there aren't enough different cinematic kills to make that interesting, you will do the same thing hour 1 to the end with no improvement.

Mix in mediocre platforming, constantly being told where to go, the terrible unlock system and items not really being improved for 3D and you have a below average at best game.
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>>377201746
>made by the Chozo
Oh silly anon, the Chozo 'weaponized' the Metroids.
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>>377201417
>Metroid fanbase is bad
This meme needs to fucking die already. The Metroid fanbase is fine. AM2R showed that we're damn near close to being the best Nintendo fanbase there is. It's just when we keep getting assblasted by bad games that the threads turn to shit.

The moment Kirby gets a bad game, the fanbase will go from being the best to being an utter shitshow. Just look at the state of the Star Fox fanbase, or the Mega Man fanbase, or the Chibi-Robo fanbase, or the Castlevania fanbase, or the Metal Gea- yeah, nevermind, they deserve it.
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>>377201746
>Metroid's gone without metroids before.
Honestly this is one of the better points about fusion. We have a new horrible abomination to be scared about. Sure, there was the Omega to fight and there was a sector with Metroids in them, but for the vast bulk of the game there's no metroids in sight, instead running from your suit hellbent on trying to hunt you down and kill you. There's the implication there might be something fishy going on with the SR388 replication, but that's it.
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>>377201896
>This meme needs to fucking die already
How is it a meme?

Retro's continual harassment for making good DKC games is proof enough that the Metroid fanbase is rotten to the core
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>>377201896
You can look at the Halo fanbase, it's the same shit. Metroid and Halo really just need a good game to bring the fanbase together.
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>>377201896
>Star Fox fanbase
>Mega Man fanbase
>Chibi-Robo fanbase
>Castlevania fanbase
>Metal Gear fanbase

All better than the rabbid maddog fanbase of Metroid fans.
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>>377201941
I have never seen anything but praise for the DKC games outside of assmad crocodilefags.
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>>377201985
>Metroid and Halo really just need a good game to bring the fanbase together.
It's called AM2R
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>>377202023
>I have never seen anything but praise for the DKC games
Then you REALLY don't know the Metroid fanbase.
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>>377202059
>a couple of anons shitposting on an imageposting forum amount to the entire fanbase
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>>377202045
He said game, not romhack.
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>>377202097
>on an imageposting forum
I wasn't talking about 4chan anon...
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>>377189557
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>>377202110
This
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>>377202059
Not him, but I've literally never seen any actual Metroid fans mad at Retro. Literally only MUH K. ROOL droolers.

Besides, Retro left that teaser at the end of Prime 3 and the teaser for Metroid Dread. DKC Returns came out at a time when Metroid still hadn't been assblasted by Other M, so no one was mad at them for making it. Tropical Freeze was only hated by nostalgia-fags and console warriors.
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>>377199083
wew Other M apologists are really reaching now, shit writing is shit regardless of language
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>>377202187
>Not him, but I've literally never seen any actual Metroid fans mad at Retro
You need to leave 4chan sometime.
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>>377202187
>Metroid Dread
That's Sakamoto's project (2D Metroid).
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The only reason people hate the metroid fanbase is because they don't mindlessly lap up Metroid: Other M. Infact, hating the game gets you called a sony roach.
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>>377202110
>am2r
>romhack

not sure if extremely stupid or just trolling
that's how bad /v/ is
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>>377202242
>That WAS Sakamoto's project before being permanently cancelled
FTFY
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>>377202110
>>377201985
AM2R, even if it wasn't a real release, brought the fanbase together. It's been done before. Sonic recovered with Colors and Generations. Zelda recovered with BotW (mostly).

Hell, Phoenix Wright's fanbase became tame after they started getting new releases. If Nintendo, Capcom, Sony, Sega, Bungie, Naughty Dog, Konami, and etc would get their shits together, there wouldn't be starving fanbases.
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>Metroid thread that hasn't devolved into ZSS dumping or faggoty ERPing by the 20th post
I mean, it's a bait thread to begin with, but "a journey starts with a single step" and all that.
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>>377202257
>The only reason people hate the metroid fanbase is because they don't mindlessly lap up Metroid M
Huh, I thought it was because they continually shit on EVERY other Nintendo game, especially the new DKC in all discussion and are overall just complete cancer.

No wait that IS why people hate the Metroid fanbase.
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>>377200764
Prime was so popular that all of the wizards on the design team immediately had sluts clamoring all over their dicks, which caused the loss of their magic powers.
It's no wonder later games can't replicated Prime's beauty.
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>>377202257
It's pretty much just shitposters who are trying to force that meme. Literally no one rational thinks Other M is worthy of praise, or even worthy of not being shit on.

It's like calling the Megaman fanbase shit for not liking Mighty Number 9. Other M is even worse than MN9. Yet only the Metroid fanbase is called into question for not supporting shit games.
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Remember that time people got so assblasted they petitioned to get a mediocre cash grab cancelled?
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>>377202282
>Zelda recovered with BotW (mostly).
>recovered
>recover
>Zelda
>needing to recover
You have officially gone rabbid. I'm sorry.
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>>377202339
That's a complete fabrication. Stop lying you fuccboi. The Metroid fanbase isn't invasive, unless you consider Ridleyfags in Smash threads to be part of the fanbase.
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>>377183038
What game? You just posted a blank picture.
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>>377202397
Zelda's fanbase was kinda fucking awful before BotW unified most of it. It was split between WW-fags, edgelords, and nostalgia-fags.

If you think that's a good fanbase, you're a shitposter. Metroid has been relatively unified behind Super and Prime. Unified in its hatred of Other M, too. The fanbase is hardly awful until some shitposter comes in and starts throwing shit at Prime or Super
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yeah and bioshock infinite has like 90 on metacritic
both games are fucking trash and raped their respective series, regardless
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Fuck off dobson
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>>377201074
Literally nothing in Hunters is every referenced or hinted at or relevant to anything else in the Metroid series. It is effectively non-canon.
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>>377202339

>DKC, Smash Brothers, Kirby, Kid Icarus, and Zelda fans all gang up on and lash at the Metroid fans for "being stupid entitled babies" (their sole crime being that they criticized a Nintendo game)
>act surprised when they don't take this lying down
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>>377202397
>we've reached the point where because BotW has good metacritic scores, /v/ actually unironically believes TP and SS are good because they have good metacritic scores
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>>377202489
>Zelda's fanbase was fucking awful
>Metroid has a good fanbase
This is the most delusional post I've seen
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>>377202542
Sylux physically appears in Prime 3 (well, his ship does) and Prime Federation Force. He's canon.

They really should do a MP:H2. With the improved hardware and the characters already set, something amazing could be done with it
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>arguing over fanbases
They're all shit, go back to tumblr if you want to pretend otherwise
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>>377202578
TP's alright, SS is easily the worst 3D Zelda though.
BoTW is okay too, better than TP in some ways.
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>>377202607
t. newfag

This is how I can tell you're not from around here.
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>>377202607

>Zelda fanbase throws gigantic fit when people say that Bloodborne is okay at 30 FPS
>proceeds to defend 30 FPS in their game

Just saying.
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>>377201625
Story = 0/10
Gameplay = 0/10
FPS = 60
Visuals = 0/10
You seem to think that this means the game is good.
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>>377202685
30 FPS is far more impressive in an open world game. Look how much ARK struggles, even on a PS4Pro. Open world games just have naturally lower FPS.
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>>377201825
>No it doesn't
Worked for me on a superficial level when I was younger, and clearly worked for the guy I was responding to. You don't get to decide how things have affected me in the past.

>Mix in mediocre platforming, constantly being told where to go, the terrible unlock system and items not really being improved for 3D
None of which have to do with the flow of combat which was literally the only thing I was talking about or would ever remotely praise about this shitfest of a game.
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>>377202808

>30 FPS is far more impressive

And here come the excuses. Let me guess, it's also more "cinematic" right?
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>>377202884
Now you're shitposting with style.

No, I never said anything about it being more cinematic. That's the excuse Bloodborne drones use. Zelda is more impressive because more is loaded in at once. Weather, wind direction, general map area, building interiors, characters with complex pathing and AI, etc. This is all far more impressive than a hallway with 30 FPS.
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>>377202828
Not that guy, but the flow of combat is pretty bad in Other M, combat encounters are a case of everything to lose and nothing to gain because killed monsters no longer drop items seeing as you have recharge stations and that focus move.
Beams feel like shit to fire, and you can easily break combat by holding the fire button and tapping a direction repeatedly til you get the invuln dodge and insta-charge, and missiles are pretty much only used when you can't damage the target any other way.
The flow of combat gets halted for those cinematic takedowns too, it just feels pretty bad all around.

Which is a shame because I like the idea of a Metroid game where Samus can dropkick things or bash them with her arm cannon alongside shooting the hell out everything in her way.
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>>377202621
>Sylux's ship in Prime 3
That has always been a crack theory that banks itself entirely on the idea that the design team basically redesigned his ship from the ground up with no other hints toward it being him. It's missing the signature green lines, the blue on each ship is HUGELY different, and although they're both X-shaped, they are ultimately shaped rather differently.

I'll admit though that I know literally nothing about Federation Force, so you might be right about that.
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>>377202952

>Zelda is more impressive because more is loaded in at once.
But it still runs at 30 FPS. Which is disgusting.

>Weather, wind direction, general map area, building interiors, characters with complex pathing and AI, etc.
And yet the game is still mediocre beyond all reason. Don't believe me? Look at the metacritic score. No good game ever gets above a 90, since game journos hate good games.
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I liked it, dont give a shit about /v/s hive mind though. The story was ass but who cares when super Metroid barely had on and thats the Pinnacle of the series.
In short its playable and fun for some, its only 0/10 for primebabbies
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>>377203041
He steals a Metroid clone at the end of Federation Force.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-goCv7zyBWU

I expect at least 3 (You)s for posting this
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>>377202952

>any NPC in zelda
>"complex pathing and AI"
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>open obvious metroid b8 thread
>it's all shitposting
Shocking. At least there are a few poor sods trying to get real discussion going.
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>>377203012
I agree with all of that, I've just been saying that it worked for me when I was younger and clearly worked for the guy I originally replied to. I was offering an explanation as to why it could for some people when they aren't thinking about the gameplay at all. I'm not going to argue in favour of the combat, because I HAVE done the base level of critical thinking required to make the game fall apart on every level, and I have nothing good to say about the combat at this point in my life.
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>>377203095
>Federation Force actually added something to the story
Huh, who knew. I dropped it after the first couple missions because it's mind numbingly boring in singleplayer.
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>>377203224
The story takes a huge nose dive when Samus gets fucking brainwashed and turned giant and is the final boss.

The Sylux teaser was literally the only redeeming quality of the game. I'm glad that I pirated it through my cracked 3DS. I doubt playing Multiplayer on it was worth the price of admission.
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>>377203095
Oh jesus that game looks even worse than I thought it would.
But I'll be damned, Federation Force actually did something good in the series by doing something with Hunters finally.

Also, and this is more directed to my own post above, but looking through the comments of that video revealed this interesting link in which Tanabe confirms the Prime 3 ship to by Sylux's: http://ca.ign.com/articles/2015/06/17/e3-2015-what-metroid-primes-producer-wants-in-the-next-sequel
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>>377203278
>The story takes a huge nose dive when Samus gets fucking brainwashed and turned giant and is the final boss.
Wow that sounds fucking retarded. It's too bad about FedForce, it has a cool concept but the execution is middling at best.
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>>377203324
>Triangular Metroid
>TRIANGULAR
>METROID
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>>377203095
Not that guy but I myself question the canon of Hunters. It has Sylux but I feel like that game was just made to brainstorm who Tanabe wanted to push as Samus's bounty hunter rival.
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>>377202193

The writing is fine. You just can't handle Sassy Samus.
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>>377183038
i was 25 when that game came out.
cmon op, when are YOU gonna be mature enough to value your opinion for what it is: one random faggot's opinion
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>>377197642
>petty reason to hate cause it's not super or prime.
or Fusion...or Zero Mission...or Pinball...or any other game in the series
It's a fucking conspiracy, it's the only logical explanation for why people treat Other M the way they do
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>>377203467
Hunters, as far as I can tell, is only loosely canon. Like, characters in it are still canon, just not the events that transpired. A "what if" story.

I would love to see Noxus, Trace, Sylux, Kanden, and Weavel back, though. They were great.
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>>377203540
Over 30s go to Wizard Chan. Get out of here, gramps.
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>>377202607
Metroid's fanbase is really bad but Zelda's is just as bad, don't even pretend otherwise
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>>377197642
It doesn't make sense for Samus to bow to Adam considering she was always rebellious. It doesn't make sense for her to be afraid of Ridley when she's killed him plenty before. Just because he keeps coming back doesn't mean she should be traumatized. She is more than capable of handling him every single time.
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>>377203929
That makes more sense, the weapons were crazy, the final boss felt out of Samus's league, and they were in another Galaxy and not our galaxy like every other Metroid game takes place. All other Metroid games fit in canon, Hunters always felt like that odd one out. Plus there's an ending where Samus dies and her Zero Suit is open hands. A good comparison would be Halo Legends Odd One Out since it has elements from Halo's canon but isn't actually canon.
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>>377202570
>Metroid cucks claim they aren't autistic

>2014
>REEEEEEEE ZEERO SOOT WASNT CUTTED FRUM
>REEEEEEEE RIDLEY WASNT ADDED ITS A HACKURAI CONSPIRACY
>REEEEEEEE THEY REFRENCED OTHER M

>2015
>REEEEEEEE RIDLEY TOTALLY GOT MORE VOTES THAN THE MOST POPLAR JRPG PROTAG IM HISTORY BALLOT IS RIGGED! RIGGED! RIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGED!
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>>377204482

>every other fanbase calls Prime "SJW shit" because Samus doesn't strip and fellate a pole every 5 seconds
>meanwhile they're all over praising cinematic movie games like Bayonetta

Really makes you think.
>>
It's flawed, but still a way better Metroid game than any of those Prime disasters which ruined the franchise forever.
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>>377204270
Not just another galaxy, another galaxy cluster. It was completely misplaced.

I think of it more like the Majora's Mask of the franchise. It uses characters that exist in universe in a completely different way than they were originally used. Sylux has showed up twice afterwards, so there's no reason why the rest of the Hunters couldn't be canon. Not like Kanden or Spire are really all that interesting, but Spire could make for an interesting plot device in a Metroid game based around his home world.

Noxus, Trace, and Sylux are the real interesting ones, and I hope we at least see more Sylux. It'd give us another Smash rep, at the very least.
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>>377204554
>Bayonetta
>movie game
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>>377204554
>every other fanbase calls Prime "SJW shit" because Samus doesn't strip and fellate a pole every 5 seconds
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>>377204632
I agree I can see some of the Hunters possibly returning eventually.
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>>377204669
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>>377204554
Strawman harder, cuck.
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Say what you want about this game, but you have to admit that short haired young Samus is a fucking qt
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>>377204784
Outside of Sylux, we haven't seen any of them show up, but I think a couple are a given. Weavel would be pretty easy to make into a Space Pirate commander in a game focusing on them again. Trace is just a mindless drone from a Zerg-like species of planet invaders, so his species could easily be repurposed, like the Ing. Noxus is basically JUSTICE the ice Chozo, working as an intergalactic arbiter of peace and prosperity, so he'd be easy to fit into a Metroid game about having to fight off the "good" guys and the bad guys at the same time.

It's such a shame that Metroid is on the backburner when Hunters opened so many doors.
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>>377204482
>2014
>REEEEEEEE ZEERO SOOT WASNT CUTTED FRUM
>REEEEEEEE RIDLEY WASNT ADDED ITS A HACKURAI CONSPIRACY
>REEEEEEEE THEY REFRENCED OTHER M
Oh man that was some high grade autism
You forgot when they accused Sakurai and Nintendo of hating Samus because she was bad at release while ZSS was good and the metroid series because they didn't add Ridley, same thing with DK because DK wasn't good at the beginning and KRool wasn't added
Smash brings out the worst in people and is an infinite source of autism
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>>377204796
>MGSV has 5 hours of cutscenes
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>>377202282

>Sonic recovered with Colors and Generations.
Nah, you still have classicfag autists berating those games because muh physics
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>>377201359
It's so crap most people don't bother reviewing it because they know it's utter crap

As a direct result you do get the few rabid fans (every game has them) that keep handing out 10/10's but you don't get the rabid haters who hand out 0/10's like in actually popular games
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>>377189185
The most damning thing I can say about the characters in Other M is that they made the characters in Prime 3 look good in comparison.
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>>377201614
>Honestly it's been kinda fucked ever since Return of Samus.
Hipster begging for hugs detected.
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>>377201896
>The moment Kirby gets a bad game
They're all bad in terms of difficulty.
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>>377201902
>but for the vast bulk of the game there's no metroids in sight
Oh, so like every other goddamn metroid game.
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>>377202339
Having fun with your straw man, there?
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>>377183038
>you need authorization to use your powerups

This pretty much summarizes the whole game. Pretty funny that the best releases of a japanese franchise is made by a murican studio.
>>
>Mario devs make a bad game
>Learns from their mistakes and fixes it

>Zelda devs make a bad game
>Learns from their mistakes and fixes it

>Metroid devs make a bad game
>Run away from all criticism, never talk about the series ever again, retreat into shitty casual games

Shit like this is why they stuck you on the Virtual Boy, Sakamoto
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