Doom has the best graphics of all games. Every thing is almost

>>377137042
It looks shiny/plastic, like an unreal engine game.

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And it also has the best optimization.
Notice that the idtech 6 was made by ex crytech dev.

It looks like generic shit

Both Battlefront and Battlefield 1 look better

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The smoke effect/explosions are on top.

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Of course, volumetric lighting is in the place.

>>377137225
i think it looks great but it has POOR performance. games like overwatch and paladins came out around the same time, run on high 60 fps for me, and sure they don't look as good, but doom 4 doesn't even offer any substantial graphical options whatsoever and runs poorly compared to them even at the lowest settings which DO look worse than overwatch or paladins

>>377137695
I think your hardware is just shit. If it can run at 1080p60 on a PS4 then you have no excuse.

>>377137695
Overwatch/paladins are built to run on as many systems as possible, just like every other blizzard game. I have a 2GB 7870 and an 8350, pretty much a 5 year old system that was mid tier when I built it and I still get 60 fps at 1080 low settings.

>>377137042
>had a code for this with my GPU
>didn't work and sent off for a replacement
>didn't get one back and the original expired
>now broke and cant get it

FUCK YOU code people

>>377137695

lmao what the fuck are you talking about

i have a useless meme card (970) and i was running doom near max (i dont like blurs etc) on 144fps

>>377137225
Doom 4 runs like fucking shit. Squad runs better than this mediocre piece of shit game, which by the way is a shitty doom game and mediocre fps in general.

>>377138245
right, those games are optimized and are what im comparing it to. doom and deus ex are the only two games i can't run at any setting, that means they are poorly optimized. i don't give a shit if you can run it on an actually great machine running a 970 or just an intel i5 3700 or whatever else and then pretending its absolutely garbage. that isn't what "optimized" means

>>377138698

how old is your pc you fucking cunt?
doom 4 was a boring short game, but it could be maxxed out on shite hardware.

>>377137042
nope, pretty sure Battlefront still has the best graphics.

>>377137042
I cant believe how well they got it to run on PS4. Actually running at 60 fps with decent graphics settings.

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>>377138789
Why do you blatantly lie? This laptop can run Andromeda and Resi 7 smoothly on low/medium. 2 games that came out yesterday. It cannot run DOOM on any settings.

I want a fun shooter to play SP and MP, should i get this or Titanfall 2

>>377139161
Titanuforru desu. It has a SP campaign of comparable quality but a way better multiplayer. Also, 4-player coop is coming in next couple months

>>377139020

>laptop

holy fucking shit fuck off redditor.
JEsus christ you try to play doom in a coffee shop?

My card is 4 years old and playing doom at 144fps maxxed out.

is this your first "wow, games that have more technology in them are harder to run" moment?

>>377139497
What kind of a retarded, autistic response is that?

>>377137695
>>377138698
i can max it out and get perfect 60fps using Vulkan mode

thats a pretty specific situation though

>>377139497
so it isn't optimized, you do know what optimized means?

>>377138767
You've got to be kidding me. This game runs like a dream

>>377139161
They are both great games, I put 100 hours in doom and 1500 into Titanfall 2 so far. Both on PC. Doom has great campaign which really shines on the Ultra Nightmare mode. MP is ok but didn't capture my imagination. Basically it is a worse version of Unreal Tournament mutant mode. Titanfall 2 multiplayer is AMAZING. It does have issues like bad spawns and poor weapon balance but it doesn't matter. Its core mechanics are really fun, competition is stiff, and It's beautiful. One of the best mp fps in years and a genuine advancement of the fps genre. SP is pretty good with a few inventive levels and it teaches you the basics you need to know for MP.

They removed strafe jumping in id tech 6 so fuck them faggy crytek devs.

>>377139786
It wasn't optimized to run on a laptop with no GPU. Big surprise. You really are a fucking idiot

>>377139786

lmao. you're trying to use it to mean "i should be able to run everything regardless of my budget hardware, i dont care about thermodynamics"

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lol

It had issues with textures, at least on consoles. I played it on PS4 and at times the textures simply wouldn't load for minutes at a time.

>>377139786
It is optimized for the target hardware - modern midrange gaming pcs. id did not want to compromise their artistic vision for your fucking GameCube laptop!

>>377139786

Your posting is a crime against intelligence.
You should be put to death.

>>377140035
>>377140223
>>377140275
>it can run new games such as andromeda and resident evil 7
>can't run doom
im not even him, but you guys are fucking retarded and have a bias. really what can't your machines run that makes doom 4 stand out as running better? shouldn't the people running budget machines be the ones to say if the game is optimized?

>>377140180
Titanfall 2 has air strafing. At literally 100 miles per hour.

>>377140519
>Titanfall 2

Dead games are dead, anon.

>>377138698
lmao stop shilling this game it's ridiculous

>>377139020
that's a lie my 770 gtx get 80 fps in medium

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>>377137042

>praising a game for graphic in 2017

the art is just ugly warcraft looking monsters in shitty shades of orange. maybe id should consider hiring some artists

>>377140924
i forgot this game actually could have looked like this, im glad they listened to feedback for at least this

ehh it's about what you should expect from a AAA production these days
the gameplay is complete trash however

>>377140654
I play every day and can get full matches in 10 to 30 seconds
Pubs and clans are both doing fine on pc in NA, Europe and Asia. Australia is kind of deaf though.

>>377141042
delet this
that is a current screenshot of the version of the game that shipped

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>>377137042
I agree, DOOM is a game I just love everything about. Usually these projectile based fast shooty games are made with smaller budgets and indipendent studios, its awesome to see a game like this given AAA polish and stunning visuals. I dont use the weapon wheel but I like to pull it up because its like bullet time and puts a DOF effect on any enemy in front of you.

Something to understand though is if you tell /v/ something is something they will shitpost in the opposite direction, so im excited to see how people try to pretend DOOM looks like "shit"

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>>377137695
people complaining about performance on D44M tend to have a massive bottleneck with the CPU

>>377139020
>integrated graphics
>attempting to run modern games
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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>>377140924
>We almost go that washed out shit
Thank god they listened to people.

>>377140476
>it can run andromeda
>implying that means anything at all
>re7
>that game where you spend most of it on a small dark house with little to no light

>>377141354
i use an intel i7 870, which is old. 2009 old, 8 years ago. top of the line for it's time i know technology has advanced and even amd shit is better now. however i noticed no framerate improvement from 5 fps with a 50 percent overclock. i think if anything my bottleneck is my gpu, an ati radeon hd 5870 which is comparatively as old and good for it's time. when people say the game is optimized, i disagree because the graphical options change nothing in my performance whatsoever while every other game does. maybe the higher quality options are better optimized than the higher quality options in other games? if that is what you mean i would accept it, but i cannot run doom 4 at all at even 320x240 resolution (yes i bothered to try because why the fuck not) whereas i can for example run unreal 4 just fine. i even run quake champions at the lowest internal resolution 25 percent 60 fps solid with drops to 5 fps on only one map which is also fucking horrible, that game too has bad optimization compared to other recent f2p games, but my point is how can you say doom 4 is optimized if it is one of the very few games i cannot run at all?

>>377141315
Why do you reddit fucks even come here?
you are wrong btw

>>377141517
Are you literally retarded?

>>377137695
>comparing a single player game which typically uses more processing to a multiplayer game

you probably have a shit CPU

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>>377142687
Ive been here for years, if being reddit is showing passion and genuine enjoyment of a thing then being redit is the way to be. Sometimes its fine to geek out about a thing you like.

>>377140519
That's a source engine game

>>377137042
Not the best by details.

But one of the best by details/performance ratio.

Gotta go fast the game.

Doom is the best FPS in years.

>>377142914
Yes it is good job

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>>377137042
It's funny because we used to say the same thing when Doom 3 came out.

>graphics will never get better than this

>>377137042
Only if you play Vulkan version

>>377143997
doom 3 was in fierce competition with far cry at the time, albeit in completely categories. far cry was blowing everyone's mind away with a huge island to explore.

>>377140476
If he bought an actual computer instead of a laptop for the same price he would be playing Doom, so that is a stupid fucking excuse.

>>377137695

My Processor is 7 years old with a GTX 960 and i still get silky smooth 60fps out of this

What the fuck are you talking about.

>have a 750ti
>friend buys me DOOM for Christmas
I hate being so retarded. I just want to play some rooty tooty point and shooty but I have to negotiate with the game first

>>377140924

>posting a picture unrelated to the final product

Anon....

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>>377137225
>Turn on vulcan
>Turn off anything to limit frames
>Max graphics, intense firefights, never dips below 120fps

>>377144990
Vulkan is magic.

>>377144656
Retards like him buy shitty "gaming" laptops that have things like 950m's, which are WEAKER than 960's even, and then get confused when they cannot play games even though they have purchased a brand new patato to try to play them with.

Their excuse generally is 'waaah I needed a laptop because it's portable!" when in reality they could just build a computer and get a tablet with a keyboard or a super cheap laptop to write shit in school with.

>>377145073
No, but it's fucking great and their implementation really shows how other studios have no idea what the fuck they are doing. I guess it makes sense, considering most of them were too dumb to use Vulkan and had to use DX12 because Microsoft included "documentation" to show how to use the SDK, and all the documentation was telling them was to reimplement DX11 in DX12.

>>377143997
Doom 3's dynamic lighting is still impressive. Also it supports higher monster counts than nuDoom.

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>>377142907
>Sometimes its fine to geek out about a thing you like.

>>377146850
that still doesn't make it a better game than Doom 2016, Doom 3 is a really mediocre game

So where did the meme that Doom 2016 is a good game come from?

Doom 2016 is just a game that is not as shit as people expected it to be, but it's not a fucking good game.

>>377147956
post better shooters then

>>377148042
he'll post a shooter from the 90s or something, proving most modern shooters are not mechanically driven and the game instead has to be compared to a 90s classic.

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>>377137225
>tfw I played through the game on low at 50 fps well below the minimum requirements

>>377147734
It is a better game, especially online.

>>377147956
>So where did the meme that Doom 2016 is a good game come from?

From the people who played it, because it was good. Care to show other contemporary shooters that are examples of "good" shooters released within the last 5 years? If your argument is none were made, then just fuck off.

>>377137042
Sucks because it has shitty gameplay

>>377149154
leave it to the /v/ contrarians to praise Doom 3 of all things, it's just a monster closet fest that fails even at being scary, despite being obvious it's something it tries to do at every turn, nevermind how fucking slow the game is

Doom 2016 is much closer to Doom 1/2 than is.

>>377149325
>enemies telegraph attacks
>enemies lead shots with precision, forcing varied movement patters (on nightmare)
>enemies stagger, pausing movement and attacks after a certain amount of damage
>enemies flank, navigate to vantage points, react based on your movement
>weapons serve different mechanical purpose
>buttery smooth movement
I fail to see how

>>377137042
Wrong. Paragon is the only game out currently that has actual graphics.

>>377149613
Wrong and Doom 3 is faster than 2016 due to strafe jumping and closer to the originals with resource management and hand placed encounters. People will still be modding D3 after nuDoom's Snapmap service shuts down.

>>377138873
This but only because of how open the levels are, although I think the devs of DOOM could of easily did the same if it was necessary

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>>377149892
That picture of the chick's ass that one faggot spams nonstop is comparable to the level of detail in DOOM's models.

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>>377150051

>>377149954
>Doom 3 is faster than 2016
it fucking isn't, quit trying to force retarded cycle memes

>>377150161
It is. If they hadn't removed all the interesting movement mechanics in id tech 6 it wouldn't be.

>>377149954
But the base movement is slow and relies on a sprint button to be remotely considered fast. What you're saying is so unbelievably retarded you must be baiting. Wait, no, you're baiting. Dont know why I typed all this out.

>>377138873
Technically I guess, because Battlefield 1's art style is absolutely disgusting, the game is nearly monochromatic.

>>377150286
Enjoy your shitty snapmap Halo clone with no mods.

>>377150407
I didnt say
"snapmap is superior to doom 3 modding tools"
yet another example of your augmentative bait attitude. And Snapmap is superior to forge, probably the best console designed level editor ever. Im willing to be you didnt even try to learn it and are just talking out your ass lol.

>>377138990
>decent graphics settings.
If by "decent" you mean on medium at 720p upscaled, absolutely.

>>377137042
It's not that hard to make a bunch of confined and repetitive spaces look good, same goes for unrealistic monsters and hell.

>>377149954
Not to mention, Doom 3 is open source, so modders will be messing with it for years and years. D44m will never be open source because Zenimax.

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>>377137042
>>377137225
>>377137468
>>377137647
Are you playing the game on a 4k resolution that's been down-sized to 1920x1080 to make it look even more impressive?

Doom 4 looks good, true, but anyone can do this.

Just look at Doom 3.

>>377151041
Yea, damn I wish there was more realistic portrayals of things that dont exist.

>>377151206
Why is every trip fag such a queer?

>>377150286
still faster than halodoom

>>377151542
Its fundamental to their thought process, THEY need to be the center of attention, everyone needs to pay attention to THEM because they're special individuals unlike the generic "anonymous".

>>377151660
nope, the movement speed of Doom 3 is slower, plus the enemies' movement speed is slower

also the maps are much smaller, if anything Doom 3 wanted to be more like Halo than D44m

This shit runs magically. 280x + 8320 and using the Vulcan API I get 100+ Fps constantly.

>>377151542
>>377151678
>gets BTFO

>so butthurt over it that he samefags to himself

>even when I post original content that I took to justify my trip

le ebin :^)

>>377151894
nope
there is no speed cap in doom 3 while you will always be going the same speed in nudoom

>>377137695
>>377138698
how fucking poor can you be if DOOM runs like shit on your PC? Even consoles run it at 60fps.

>>377152117
What a dumbass.
>justify my trip
literally lmao, kill yourself you sad excuse for an adult.

Here, check this out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqj_8cSktGQ

>>377152327
>sad excuse for an adult

That's what I'd say to a manchild who's making a poopy in his pantsy because I'm wearing a trip.

Need a diaper change, kid?

>>377151206
>Are you playing the game on a 4k resolution that's been down-sized to 1920x1080 to make it look even more impressive?
yes

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>>377152327
>gets mad at someone for using a tripcode properly
literally kill yourself nu/v/

>>377152117
posting a screenshot doesn't justify a trip you dumb nigger

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>>377152850
Sorry, I forgot that only shitty memes in MSPaint are tolerable here.

>>377153215
you can post a screenshot or argue graphics without attention whoring like a shit eating smug retard
50 other people are doing it right now
you're only one who had to put a faggot badge on before posting
that is not the intended use of tripcodes, because you and your identity are not important
kill yourself

>>377152850
>>377152701
>This
He's not using it properly at all. This isn't his thread and he doesn't need to be differentiated from other anons for any narrative reasons (green text stories, etc.). He's just being an attention whore.

>>377152117
>>377152571

>autism

>>377153215
You have to go back

>>377153215

>tripfaggots being retarded

wew lad

>>377151206
And then there is this attention whoring fucking autist.

>>377152701
>doesn't know what a tripcode is even used for
>>>>>/r/eddit

>>377142687
says t. redditor

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The game looks nice, but they committed a massive sin by making corpses disappear. Doom will always be about carnage.
Music is fucking atrocious, you need to have shit shoved up your ears to find that crap good.
Map design was really lacking, corridor=>arena rinse and repeat.But at least they managed to take a step from corridor corridor and more corridors.

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>>377143997
Because Doom 3 is a extremely good looking game.
Just a fucking shame there is only 2 biomes: Marsmetal and Hellscape

Also a shame it didn't sell enough of the game engine. Or the patent stuff.

>>377150161
>>377150286
>he doesn't strafe jump in doom 3
it's your own fault for being slow

>>377157378
?
The engine is open source you can do whatever you want with it for free. The reason the engine didn't catch on very much is because carmack wasn't interested in becoming an engine dev like Epic and didn't want to provide support for devs like they do

>>377149749
>enemies lead shots with precision, forcing varied movement patters
only some and not very often, the player is never in a position where they have to make any kind of tactical positioning decision you can literally just run around in circles even on nightmare
>enemies flank, navigate to vantage points,
only imps and they just run back and forth between waypoints on the map, pathfinding in general is pretty terrible
>weapons serve different mechanical purpose
no they do not
>buttery smooth movement
movement got fucking neutered

>>377157378
It's because idtech4 came out too late to compete with its contemporaries, Source and UE2. Game devs couldn't wait long enough for it, and continuing to use idtech3 wasn't an option when you were trying to have something looking great.

Don't get me wrong, I think every iteration of idtech was highly advanced for its time, moreso than Source and UE were generally speaking (Source does a few neat things that idtech engines don't, such as superior facial rigging and a focus on physics), but there are also some flaws in both speed of delivery for the engine and the difficulty the .bsp format has with rendering large outdoor areas.

>>377159407
>continuing to use idtech3 wasn't an option when you were trying to have something looking great
wat
call of duty to this day is still using modified id tech 3

>>377159407
>continuing to use idtech3 wasn't an option
protip COD is still idtech 3 under the hood

>>377159562
>>377160123
activision are so greedy. I heard that because of still using the idtech3, they can't do things like volumetric light.

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>>377160743
they probably don't have volumetric lighting because COD is one of the few console shooters that maintains a solid 60fps
there was a quake mod that imported doom 3's lighting to it so it's not like the engine is stopping them

>>377137042
the art design leaves a lot to be desired

all the tech looks too ergonomic, too shiny, too futuristic, not industrial enough, and hell doesn't look gruesome and fucked-up enough

>>377150051
>>377150160
goddamn, that's a good fucking model

>>377159562
>>377160123
It's a fork of it with updates. No different than when someone ported Doom 3's lighting to Quake 1.

In the same way, Source is technically a fork of previous idtechs, considering GoldSrc was a composite of Quake 1, 2, and 3.

>>377161245
yes but MoH:AA and CoD1 were proper id tech 3 and still state of the art for their time visually

>>377137042
And it also runs smooth like butter!

How did they do it without Carmack?!?

>>377161470
megatexture isnt a meme but carmack got bored with plebian 3d crap.

Tried Doom on my PC with a CPU from 2009, a Phenom II x3 at 3ghz. That's 3 core, people.

Doom ran fine at high settings!

Using a Radeon HD 7870 2GB gpu, and 12GB RAM.

40-60 fps, mostly around 50

Amazingly well optimized game.

>>377161358
I would more contribute that to the relative newness of UE2 and that Source wasn't quite out yet. Sure, VTMB used an early Source engine, but even that didn't hit until 2004 I think.

Something interesting, Brink, which came out in 2012, still used idtech4, Doom 3's engine. I'm not saying it's a great example of graphical beauty, but it's still very pretty for the amount of horsepower it takes to run. This was achieved by devs being familiar with the engine (ET:QW used idtech4 as well) and knowing how to play to its strengths, which is difficult to do with a freshly released engine.

>>377162760
Prey 2 was going to be id tech 4 was well. by the time ET:QW came out they fixed the limitations and you could have solid large scale maps in id tech 4.

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>>377153215
I feels good to add another subhuman to the tripcode filter.

>>377162876
That was always an issue with a lot of idtech engines, it simply wasn't a great choice for large, outdoor areas. Sure, you can make them work, but the way the maps are compiled and run favor enclosed areas. MegaTextures were one of the things that contributed to helping outdoor environments run better.

>>377141315
Doom was fantastic, sourgrapes I guess

That's nice

now fucking tell me how i can run it in 4k without it being a quarter of a screen in the top left

What the fuck.

>>377161470
They used "smart" techs, like using data from the previous frame, etc.

Doom is insanely well optimized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtCEsGHFwbQ

With some ini file and config messing around, it will even run on a Celeron with integrated intel graphics -- and it's still hanging around quite playable framerates.

IdTech6 is an incredible engine.