What's the closest thing to .. a MOBA .. that isn't

>>377133125
MMORPGs?

>>377134018
I mean, I guess, but plenty of MMOs just aren't good games; and with the up-coming of survival multiplayer, you would think some company would have high fantasy.

>genre is so complex tons of people give up before they learn how to play at even an acceptable level
>durr it's shallow because /v/ said it is
Every time

>>377135768
>4 moves
>flat playing field
>zero motor skills required
>rock paper scissors gameplay
MOBAs are literally bottom of the barrel trash. If you actually think they're good then you're very obviously less than 16 years old.

>>377135293
Black Desert Online and the new Conan game are the only fantasy ones that come to mind

>>377136337
Conan isn't high fantasy gameplay. It's melee sticks and stones.

>>377135768
MOBA are wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle.
The only reason people find it hard to enter is because there are 150 heroes that you have to grind out since balancing changes from one week to the next and you want a top tier hero unlocked.
Other than that they are super simple.

Are MOBA players capable of independent thought?

>>377136997
No, they are conditioned to follow the meta or get reported.

>>377136594
didn't call it high fantasy, just said fantasy
guess black desert grind online is OP's only option