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>Improved textures >all around constant patching and balancing

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>Improved textures
>all around constant patching and balancing
>devs are constantly adding more updates
>low amount of skill needed to play at lowest level, extreme amount of skill needed to play at the top level
>actually free to play
Memes aside, why haven't you played LoL yet? It's fast paced and fun
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>>377123835
I'm literally playing it right now
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Been playing it for years, by its merits it should be the game /v/ praises the most however its been shitcanned because it's so popular
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This is what /v/ has come to?

Fucking MOBAs?
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I prefer multiplayer games where my success depends only on me.
I don't find it fun when I have to rely on 4 brainless monkeys.
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>>377123835
>actually playing ASSFAGGOTS
ishygddt
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Season 2 > Rest
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>>377123835
IT'S POPULAR SO IT'S BAD
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>>377123835
I played a few years ago and dropped it, why should I pick it back up?
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>>377123835
yeah guess i could reinstall, i cant keep playing quake live and cs 1.6. forever

dubs decide my new username, 1-6 decides main champ to grind to 30 with
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>>377123835
Heroes are locked behind a pay wall.

If I want a casual MOBA I just play HOTS instead for slut elves and heroes that I've actually heard about.
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>>377123835
literally jewy dumbed down dota
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>>377123835
MAYBE THEY SHOULD BUFF SINGED ALREADY
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>>377123835
for the game to be fun you need at least 5 good players in the same match. anything less and the game feels dogshit and like a chore
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>>377124031
Dota just had an update, so the corporate shills push out the "viral" order to get some talk generated about their game in the meantime.
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>>377124125
Well depends on why you dropped it. I think it's easier to get into now than it was 3 years ago.
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>>377124202
CuumBubbleDaddy
Soraka
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>>377123835
>extreme amount of skill needed...

sorry but no

league of losers is literally the easiest moba on the market. even heroes of the storm is harder at high levels of play.

LOL is designed to be picked up and played by any chucklefuck who has no clue what they are doing. thats why there are so many players of it.

not to mention that the people who play it are the most retarded niggers of a community that i have ever laid eyes on and thats coming from someone who has played wow for a decade
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>BRs, Chinese, multiple other shit communities flock to it
>muted/banned for saying gg ez
>balancing
>scripting/cheating is rampant at the lower levels
>Constantly playing with people who make new accounts just to shit on newbies

Gee, why would I play this shithole of a game?????
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Because they stopped making waifu characters and haven't in years because they wanted to pander to the tumblr audience

Jinx was the last good waifu and she was released 3 years ago
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>>377124202
>dubs

Just fuck off.
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>>377123835

>shit graphics
>shit client
>shit developers
>shit community

yeah nah
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>>377123835
Because i'm already playing a way better game that is actualy free and not free(tm)*

(*if you play for 3000 hours)
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>>377123835

>Constant balancing

Is that what you call it?
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>>377123835
I've tried them but MOBAs aren't my thing.
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>>377123835
I did, then I tried Dota 2 in 2013 and never looked back. LoL is garbage
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>>377124374
>what is birdslut
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>>377123835
Played since pre Season 1, I think Maokai was the newest champion and Jarvan was next? Anyway, stopped playing less and less became the game gradually became less and less fun, then started palying once Team Builder was in and then stopped, again, when they removed Team builder
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>Improved Textures
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>>377124226
The problem with singed is that he's too linear and predictable.
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>>377124121
IT'S POPULAR SO IT'S GOOD
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It's that fucking grind for me
>Really like playing as ___
>want to play ___ more
>70-140 ip per win
>60-130 ip per loss
>matches take around 30minutes to an hour
>___ cost 6300 ip
>Going to take roughly 50-100 matches just to get one character depending on ip earned
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>>377124354
>even heroes of the storm is harder at high levels of play.
>no last hitting
>no jungling
>no warding
>harder

???
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>>377124535
>Shit graphics
Compared to what? AAA titles that are single player? I prefer the art style over Dota2 and HoTS

>Shit client
I'll give you that one, the old ones superior

>Shit developers
Every game dev that work on online games are considered "shit", but they at least listen to the playerbase

>Shit community
Every online game has a shit community, their is not a single good one
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>>377124749
Trailer trash garbage
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>>377124328
>soraka
i hope they havent gone full retard with nerfing her again
she used to be fucking OP with AP builds if you wanted to dick around instead of healing full time

besides giving all farm to carries is BS they dont need all that shit
>>377124354
fucking in the pussy doesnt have to be rocket science why should games be absolute challenge? its okay to play dumb stupid simple stuff like Nintendo or Riot
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>>377125175
oh are you in for a suprise...
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>>377125037
same as jinx then
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>>377125287
Jinx doesn't have a Le ironic personality with shit tumblr quotes.
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>>377124883
yeah and he doesnt even get that much extra HP from his passive
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>>377124354
You've never played either if you think that.
HOTS
>Shared xp
>no items
>only level skills every 3 levels
>no wards
>fewer actives even less than league
>silly tower agro
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>>377123835
I like more than 4 moves in a multiplayer game
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>>377125175
They reworked her into a heal turret, but she was way too strong still so they kept nerfing her to the ground.
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>>377123835
>Memes aside, why haven't you played LoL yet? It's fast paced and fun
nobody on this board hasn't played LoL, fuck off with your replybait
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>>377123835
>fast paced and fun

Fuck you for reminding me dominion used to exist. The only mode worth playing because once you make it to the higher hidden elo of it you were basically playing with the same people and actually had a good community
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>>377125536

what about that 24/7 general that was so active they had to create /vg/
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The only reason to play LoL over Dota2 is being a normie
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>>377124226
You know he was picked in competitive right?

He's fine, the 3 dark seal start fixes his bad early game
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>>377125619
You might want to read that again
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>>377125725
Yeah right,competitive play? show me
we all know the darkseals are gonna get nerfed though
you can literally feel it coming
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>>377125689
>wanting to play with 4x russians on ur team while they blame u for every mistake yelling at you in voice chat in a foreign langauge
yeah no
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>>377123835
Because you forgot the things that really make it sick
> takes forever for devs to fix imbalances
> more of one-guy-carrying-the-team instead of actual teamwork
> have to farm for 15-20 minutes before any real action happens and even thend most games are boring with few team fights and last 40 minutes
> if someone leaves it's nearly impossible to win and you are heavily penalized for it
And let's not forget the worst thing about this game:
> fucking shit community
Leaving league was the best thing I've ever done.
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>>377125536
I installed the game, played one round where my team promptly surrendered as soon as possible, then uninstalled the game.

Do I count as having played LoL?
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>>377123835
>still clinging to the idea that a single map in the whole game is a good thing
>40 minutes long matches
>gear shop
>years into it; still no semblance of balance between heroes

Meh.
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>>377123835
>extreme amount of skill needed to play at the top level
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>>377123835
>fast paced

no its not
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>>377124921
>I prefer the artstyle

That has nothing to do with actual graphics or performance you fucking sperg.
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>>377123835
I hate the characters and art style, prefer dota. Dotas got better gameplay and mechanics, too.
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>>377123835
>fast paced
>balancing!
>fast paced
>skill
>FAST
>PACED
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>>377123835
>extreme amount of skill needed to play at the top level
ayy lmao
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How long is 1-30?
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>>377126113
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>>377123835

>flash still broken.

Fucking worst developers in the fucking industry.
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>>377126356
>Stale gameplay involving same team comp every single time

>Solo top
>Jungle
>Mid
>Carry with Support

>Games are decided by minute 15 due to massive snowballing mechanics and no general comeback options

>Community is so blindfolded about their game they refuse to change how its played, so basically anyone trying to do something different from the stablished meta gets reported and kicked out of the game.
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>>377123835
>shit tier graphics
>cuz the game is broken and unbalanced
>which is more skin cash grab
>skill? skill?
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because it's boring as fuck. i don't gain pleasure from playing moba's. they're just straight up boring.
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>>377126757
they amount of exp needed by half I think recently
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>>377125372
No she predates it by being LOL SO RANDUM XD
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>>377123835
>actually free to play
I'd fucking kill myself if I had to start playing League as a new player right now. When I started there were still like 50 champions in the game so at least the "free to play" grind was sort of bearable.
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>>377123835
8 year old incredibly repetitive game.
>HOLY SHIT THEY CHANGED THE MAP LAYOUT ITS LIKE BRAND NEW!!!
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>>377123835
I'm playing the superior MOBA HotS
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>>377123835
>free to play
Top kek. Enjoy paying thousands of dollars to get all the characters.
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>>377123835
Its not free to play, its pay to win. All of the best heroes are behind a huge paywall. Extreme skill cap? I take it youve never played any other games.
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>>377123835
Don't need to play the game to masturbate to the fanart.
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>>377123835
because the only part of the game i enjoy is laning

i found it weird that HOTS went with a design philosophy of 'fuck laning, teamfighting is fun!' wheras having a 1v1 lane vs somebody, and trying to edge them out via favourable trades, avoiding ganks, controlling minion waves is way more exciting

Also i've tried every moba out there and whilst all do different things best, LoL without a doubt does hero 'kits' better than any other. They just synergise with each other really nicely a lot of the time. Obviously some of the individual abilities are far less dramatic than in DoTA for example, but i find the kits in LoL to be more consistent and synergous
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>>377123835
the new rift looks like fucking shit compared to the old one. the improvements are minimal because they were dead scared of it no longer running on toasters. If it stopped running on toasters they would loose like half their playerbase
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Heroes having to be unlocked breaks the hero comps since you can't accurately pick to counter enemy teams. This causes faggots to play 1 hero only and never fully learn the game.

Then we have the problem of popularity which is a real problem. Too many people blindly following "the meta" because their ultra popular streamer or YouTube personality said so. The game is so popular with these casuals and the matchmaking is so poor you get trapped with players who don't understand common sense with team comps and team work.

Mobas have alot of problems but league is truly one of the worst. The company is a literal Chinese copy cat company but people eat their shit and willingly throw 20 bucks for their crappy skins.
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>>377127278
sure play a 5v5 game and enjoy the 1v1 action
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>>377123835
>actually free to play
are you from tencent go shill your chinese game elsewhere
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>Improved textures
still a toaster game meant for third worlders without good computers
>all around constant patching and balancing
usually for the worse, mechanics are dumbed down and power creep rampant, every season they break something and ruins champs with extreme nerfs or buffs
>devs are constantly adding more updates
they have to to make money its f2p
>low amount of skill needed to play at lowest level, extreme amount of skill needed to play at the top level
dont care
>actually free to play
i played for over 3k hours to unlock every champ for free, its fucking bull shit to lock out champs
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>Constantly teamed with 4 angry autists
>You need to rely on said 4 autists to win
>Not a fan of MOBAs
>Playerbase is fucking awful in general
>One fucking map(nobody but bots play 3v3 and ARAM), gets stale real quick.
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>>377127126
this is my main problem with mobas

How come Hots can make 10 maps, but dota and LoL can't even make a reskin of the same map
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>>377124909
HotS requires more team coordination. Something that is literally impossible for the average ASSFAGGOTS player.
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>>377126737
>>377126425
Only 1% of ranked players are diamond or higher. And half the players don't even play ranked. If you, person laughing, devoted three months to playing this game you wouldn't even be close to diamond.
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>>377123835
>every hero is identical
>old unique heroes are "streamlined" to be the same
>all of dota's mechanical depth removed, only kept the grind
>abilities are just copied from dota and watered down
>safe, boring, dumbed down, no-risk design and gameplay, discourages aggressive play
>enforced meta
>generic korean barbie and ken dolls everywhere, old designs also ruined
>horrid p2w/p2notgrind elements, the worst player grind in the genre and possibly in online games
>fascist safespace moderation bans over every little thing

It's utter shit. Anyone still playing it has stockholm syndrome.
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>>377123835
>>Improved textures
Graphics are still outdated.
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>>377127691
When was the last time you've looked at DotA? There's tons of reskins
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>>377127278
synergetic? you mean fucking gap closer, 3 hit passive, attack steroid, cc, and aoe nuke ult on every character?
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>>377127691
dota2 made a resking of the map
lol has made diferent maps but are lock by events
host has diferent maps cuz the gameplay is diferent on each map while in dota/lol the gamplay is the same
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>>377123835
>MOBA
lol no
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>>377123835
dota has all their heroes unlocked, better gameplay, and no retarded meta shit like runes.

So, no.
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Ahri is my leaguefu
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I like Poppy.
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>>377124921
>graphics != art you retarded cunt
>shit game on general
>no way if they listen the playerbase feel conectec with their developers and buy their shit
>not shitier that that comunnity

btw which game are you commenting about?
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>>377123835
>You need to play a gorrilion hours to unlock some champions
Yeah nah
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>>377124903
thats if you play alone
you have to play with friends to get x5 exp
or just buy the hero cuz time is more expensibe tham money
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>>377128293
Have you ever wondered whats on the side of her head with those ears poping out the top?
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>extreme amount of skill needed to play at the top level
HAHAHAH.

>120+ champs, barely any are actually used at top play
>fake gameplay centred around champs designed to be at the top because the fat pimple-faced gook 'pros' play them
>owned by a chinese company
>any 12 year old spic could play it


Only big assfaggot worse than this one is HoTS.
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Because they keep changing the characters I enjoy playing or changing other factors like items to make them unplayable.
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>>377124098
Yes, I miss season 2. Especially it's jungle. Season 4 wasn't bad either. This year the jungle is boring, slow and tedious. I rarely do it now.
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>all of my favorite champions have been reworked into unfun nonsense
>every lane is now a nonstop aggression fest wherein whoever hits level 2 first wins
>half the game is determined by who gets the infernal drakes

nah I don't think I'm coming back to league
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>>377123835
because it feels bad to play and the meta is and has been in a terrible place right now
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>>377123835
Its not Nintendo, Blizzard or a Souls game. Therefore /v/ will hate it no matter what
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>>377127691
most of the maps in hots are total ass. and the thing is certain maps completely invalidate certain heroes so picking them means you are gimping your team. balancing nightmare. and desu none of the hots maps looks well designed at all because they are just a boring left and right symmetrical playing field.

dota's got a shit ton of custom game modes anyway so if that's what you are so desperate for then go and play them. blows hots out of the water. go play overthrow in dota if you are so desperate for a new map and game mode. you can get map reskins in dota and they are hundreds of times more aesthetically pleasing than ones in hots.
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>>377123835
>creeping is boring as fuck
>it's slow
>it's teambased
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>>377128616
This, they completely murdered the game I once enjoyed. I stopped after they added trinkets and removed all supports having AP alternate builds. Basically anti-fun enforcing your role on your team.
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>you will never gay it up botlane with your qt bf

Why even live
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>>377123835
I stopped playing in like 2010
dota is just better, spells are more impactful and heroes are more diverse
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I stopped playing after the nerfed Sona back in season 2, they had done and nerfed all the characters I liked playing by then while keeping Kassadin unchanged which was pretty biased.
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WHO /STARTED IN SEASON 3 AND STILL PLAYING/ HERE???
REPRESENT
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>>377125465
>nerf meme champs useless
>newest 7.8k champ is OP af
i bet this is how it goes no matter what patch you play in
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Stopped playing after they literally removed AP Master Yi from the game and never looked back. Forced meta shitheap of a game.
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>>377129439
I started in the time between Akali's release, and Malz release.


Though I play on/off regularly. Enjoy ARAM's more then anything else.
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>>377129439
You started playing in 2013? What are you, 14 years old?
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I am too old to enjoy LoL at this point
I am starting to enjoy HotS just because there is less to worry about
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>>377129601
next you'll be playing bejeweled instead of any game that requires a modicum of attention
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2011 was the peak, everything since then went downhill. Why? Because the game is simplistic and casual and they haven't done anything to give it any variety and complexity so it's been stagnating for years. They did manage to hit a sweet spot between Dota and HOTS to make it not completely braindead. I have to give them credit for being extremely good at PR and marketing, they're incredibly good at selling the game and making viral shit, social media and flashy animations/videos. It's the epitome of style over substance and they are masters of that
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>>377126728
It is
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>>377129775
Give it 5 years and I am only playing Hidden Object games
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If i wanted to play shitty casualised version of dota i would play dota circa 2016+

Best moba is hots
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Other than the obsolete leveling system and the IP grind if you are not spending money, it's a pretty solid game. I find myself keep coming back to it.
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>>377129809
What you posted isn't even the same game that's being played right now.
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>>377130008
Yeah forgot the part when they deleted Zed from the game
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>>377123835
>>actually free to play
Can this meme stop?
Let me know when all the heroes are free and I can play whoever I want whenever I want without having to spend actual money on them or grind 100+ games to get the IP to buy them
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>>377130065
Nocturne and purple minions, too.
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>>377125559
YES
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>>377129809
good times when assassins weren't useless
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>>377123835
Because I don't hate myself enough.
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>Character Design - 10/10
>Gameplay - 2/10
>Community - 0/10
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The only good thing to ever come out of LoL is yordle porn. Just try and prove me wrong.
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>>377130725
that pretty much sums it up. It's visually very pleasant and nice, but it's lacking in everything else
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>>377123835
I play dota
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>>377130906
meant for >>377130529
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>>377123835
You just explained DOTA2 though
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>>377127054
At least when I play against Jinx I only have to hear the occasional "ZAP!" or "WATCH THIS!". Xayah, especially when you have a Rakan with her, NEVER shuts the fuck up.
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>>377130725
I can't and won't

I want to breed with Poppy non-stop and it is a crime they removed her boomerang shield the first patch after she was revamped.
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>>377130529
>>Character Design - 10/10
half the fucking heroes are made by a shitty deviantart artist
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>paying for this guy's food
>risking getting banned over fucking NOTHING, even just saying "gg" or really anything at all
>have to risk getting banned for playing anything but the set-in-stone builds and picks in ranked, if you try anything that deviates even a little bit you risk getting reported and banned
>awful cel shading
>jewish as fuck rune system
>would take years of playing to get all champs now

hmmm
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LoL and HotS have characters I like so I play them, Dota 2 doesn't so I just play don't play it, people forget that characters are like 80% the appealing of MOBAs.
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>>377126737
The fuck you are talking about? Pro players practice 12 hours per day and yet western teams cant compete with korean teams who practice harder
Not even chesssmasters play so many hours a day to stay relevant
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>>377124031
At least it isn't skyrim or call of duty. The faggots that unironically discuss those games can go burn in hell
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>>377123835
The real problem with the game is that Riot popularized Teamwork and Coordination and kept rubberbanding the game so that the better team won. This objectively sounds good but it is very hurting to all good players, who are playing on bad teams (elo hell lmao), season 3- had tons of assassin play and you felt like you did damage, now defense was buffed to infinity, everyone gets wards, armor pen scales with level, damage items deal less and less each (bloodthirster used to give 100 ad, last whisper gave 35% armor pen (All armor not that bonus armor bullshit) AND defense items were worse).
All characters have more and more mobility, which ends up killing the game when you also make all abilities more and more skillshots. The value of easy CC skyrockets, which comes mostly from tanks who, surprise, also have better survivability since riot destroyed attack and buffed defense.
And finally, the real killer. Riot didn't just reduce damage items and improve defense items. Even they knew the game would be a fucking snoozefest. So what they did was compensate in the champions' kits, and through the keystone masteries. Base damages and stats were improved, all abilities got scalings, this all stacked up in a Teamwork and Cooperation-friendly way: Tanks and supports dealt damage, at the cost of their carries' damage. But what it also did was reduce snowballing as a losing champion can still do damage. This meant that the 10/1 zed became easier to handle over time (not during a game, during irl time)

t. someone that played since season 1 and really liked the game before the trinket shit
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>>377123835
Oh boy, is this another thread where subhuman retards pretend LoL isn't a garbage game with a shit community and incompetent devs?
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>>377123835
i only play it because all the characters from Kench and up are (including reworks) are great
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>assfaggots
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the fact that even a single person on earth likes LoL really makes me think
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>>377131402
I have never been banned for saying "gg" to somebody, and I've said that after every game for several hundred games. I don't know what you're doing to get banned but that isn't what it is.
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>>377131412
You're right, but also you're wrong.
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>>377131637
>tfw Galio ulting into enemy team and landing a 5 man taunt

Those are the little moments
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>>377131803
Your own anecdotal evidence doesn't matter when we have more than enough proof of the devs and the whole tribunal/banning system being garbage.

People have been banned over gg ez before and proven it.
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>>377131913
>tribunal/banning system

Nigga tribunal has been dead for like 4 years jesus
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>>377123835
It was eating 4+ hours a day for me to even just be mediocre. Didn't have to time for that, and it's not really something you can casually try to improve at without completely wasting your time given that the things to practice are so nuanced that you just need so much mileage.

Switched to melee, I can feel good about grinding tech skill an hour a day at least. Still love league tho, nothing like getting a Penta kill as jinx to close out a 40min game.
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Hasn't LoL been on a decline for a while now?
Do they still release champs every 2 weeks?
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>>377123835

LoL and every game like it past the original dota is for mentally incapacitated children who can't handle it being their fault when they lose at videogames. Dota was just another wc3 custom game mode and honestly it should have just stayed that way, at least dota 2 implemented those
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>>377131913
>gg ez

That's not the same as "gg" though, if you're going to whine about bans at least be accurate. Also Tribunal's been dead for years.
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>>377131412
>80%
no, what makes a moba interesting is tactical depth, teamwork and asymmetrical gameplay (which characters come into I will admit). but the characters themselves are far less important than the abilities that come with them
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>>377132041
Supposedly when OW came out it surpassed LoL in Korea, but after a while LoL became #1 in pc bangs again

If I remember correctly Riot had a 1.2billion revenue 2015 and in 2016 it was 2billion, seems like it keeps growing
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>Fast paced
Aren't games usually 30+ minutes?
>Fun
It's a moba, so no
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>>377124921
I don't want a dev that listens to the playerbase, I'd rather have a dev that makes well thought out, well informed changes than at all involving stupid fucking players in the process.
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>>377132241
I see.
I haven't played LoL since.. oh man. Let me think.
Probably when about Jinx came out is when I stopped.

What have I missed? Did the game improve a lot since then?
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>>377124625
laughed
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I post in /lolg/ daily and have been playing for 3 years

I used to be "lmao league who plays mobas its cancer" until I actually played one
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>>377132465
condolences
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>>377132465
>friend hates anime
>plays with SG Rumble
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>>377132465
My great grandmother used to be a functional human being before she got an aneurysm
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>>377132428
Its season 7 now.
Dumbest hypest match that happen recently was the world champ vs some random viet team that was form in just a month
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhgbBK90rk8
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>>377132465
>I post in /lolg/ daily
You should see a doctor
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>>377130725
Not even going to, you're fucking right my guy
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>>377132327
>Aren't games usually 30+ minutes?
Yes they are, unless it's a stomp. Pro games tend to be over 40, usually 50 minutes and they're so boring with like 20 kills total and every game is the same essentially. But LoL kiddies watch the reddit analysts and like to talk about "rotations" and "strategy" like that exists in LoL in any meaningful level. I remember Thorin comparing pro LoL players to Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan, it's so cringeworthy
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>>377131402
is that Pendragon?
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>>377132680
I don't really care much about the sports.
I mean the game itself. Did it improve in some substantial ways since then?
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>>377132181
Yeah that's for the people who play ranked which is like 20% of most MOBAs population. In LoL, in the NA server like 8% people play ranked? some shit like that, most people just pick some champs to main and then buy skins for them.

I'll just bring the point that imaqtpie and scarra, ex-pros, said on their podcast on why after almost 8 years they keep playing league, it just doesn't get boring, each match there always some new shit going on and you always feel you can do anything in any part of the game, so they just never get bored of the game. Also qt is some maniac that enjoys killing players in many ways on many champions and it feels very satisfying.

>>377132428
That was like 3 years ago I think. I like most of the new reworks from old champions, there's a rift herald before Baron spawns, dragons are now elementals, gameplaywise I dunno, feels the same in the terms of balance. In the sense of improvement, there are more objects and more champs so yeah.
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>>377132726
What's the best way to knock up a yordle?
Mating press or upright straddle?
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>>377132465
Having to play 20 games of hots has only validated my disdain for the genre, and this is apparently one of the least awful ones
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>>377123835
>all around constant patching and balancing
Ever since Juggernauts the game has been an unbalanced shit.
Assassins building tanky and doing more damage than their actual damage builds and crazy shit like that.
They keep adding new stuff but they can't fix what they already have.

>low amount of skill needed to play at lowest level, xt3m31337 skill needed to play at the top level

Nigga. Ever since the Support item rework this fucking game isn't about skill (not to be hyperbole, it is about skill but its effect is greatly reduced compared to this), it's about the shittiest guy on your/enemy team.
Long gone are the days where you could solocarry teams.

>why haven't you played LoL yet?
They reworked Rengar.
Not to be a meme player but he was my favourite champion, he was so versatille (AP, Tank that actually doesn't deal shit-ton of damage late game, Crit, ArmPen, On Hit lol) and he was unique in his ways.

Pic related, i made it way back.
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>>377123835
> promise players better graphics for years
> promise inventory UI overhaul
> promise proper replay system
> lolnever
> suddenly DotA with all of the above and more
Oh shit goyim now that we have competitio we better start delivering

That's why.
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>>377123835
>It's fast paced
I like slow paced more.
Besides, the devs are hellbent on destroying any build on any champion I used to find fun to play.
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>>377132550
thanks
>>377132660
>>377132712
I know I'm fucked

>>377132994
Overcuck huh

hots is a moba with literally every element of complexity removed, it's not one of the better ones it's just the one you don't hear people complain about because there's nothing to complain about because the game is so bland and tasteless

It's almost like removing everything that makes a moba interesting and watering it down into four button teamfight simulator isn't fun
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>>377133124
>dota
>competition

lmao
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>>377123835
I'll take the bait.

>Yeah because that +0.01% AP scaling on some utility skill is going to change EVERYTHING
Changes are always enough to impact the game in subtle ways that eventually stack up. The fact the meta changes yearly is proof the changes are enough.
>$20 skins is not content
No but entire class reworks/new champs are. Moakai just got done.
>Because it takes mad skillz to first pick the FOTM champion
It takes skill to be able to abuse it's strengths. Bjergsen urgot vs you Caitlyn, you'd lose.
>Unless you want to win, they you need to buy rune pages and whoever the latest OP champion released is
Not acknowledging ip, lmao. Also if you want to win you'll be playing enough to have thousands of spare ip.
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>>377133270
You are right. It's like calling FCB competition to the Eagle Point Sports Club
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>>377131481
>>377133348
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>>377133142
But fun is unhealthy anon. LoL is a healthy game and requires every build to be what Riot intends. You don't wanna have fun in an unhealthy way, do you?
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>>377133348
Are you really going to deny that a new player would have to play for years to get all champs and rune pages with runes?
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assfaggots is a shit genre
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>>377123835
>extreme amount of skill needed to play at the top level
HAHAHAHAHAHAH good one

MOBA is as low skill as it comes senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR7CU3CJ7iU
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>>377125427
>shared xp
This means that you can't just ignore playing against your lane opponent and afk farm safely for your power spikes
>no items
Correct, because every choice you make is a compromise and actually matters in most matches, instead of just building the same 5 items with one defensive if you need it or a damage if you're rolling.
>only level skills every 3 levels
talent system is much more complex than Leagues level Q then E then W grabbing points in ult whenever possible.
>no wards
Okay so you haven't played the game, I understand.
>fewer actives, even less than league
Refer to the above.
>silly tower agro
This lends to the fact you actually need to function as a competent player, if you can't out duel 2-3 champions solo on a tower in Hots then I don't know what to tell you other than to pick a better character. This also highlights a mentality you have where towers being able to absolutely annihilate anyone who steps under it for a half second just confirms that you prefer a playstyle divorced from player interaction, so fuck off with yourself you dumb cunt.
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>>377133348
>Yeah because that +0.01% AP scaling on some utility skill is going to change EVERYTHING

It's funny because they did put a very small AP scaling on Kassadin's R and now he's legit soloQ OP. He didn't need the buff at all rofl.
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>>377132937
>8% of people play ranked
the others aren't experiencing what makes a moba good

the truth is league is nothing more than a casual version of DoTA, so if that's your thing and you can't get into DoTA then that's fine. I know off the top of my head about 15 people who moved from league to DoTA 2 when it came out, but I know literally no people who played DoTA then went to league. I think that is all you need to see
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I did from 2010 till late 2014
They kept changing the game and making it less fun for me
Which is kind of ironic because I started playing lol because blizzard did the exact same thing with wow
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>>377124031
There are a lot of underaged faggots around.

They LITERALLY dont have the thinking capacity to realise how fundamentally flawed this game is.

The reward loops got these fucks addicted. Only after years of aidscancer will they MAYBE Wake up.
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>>377133421
>Irrelevant E-Sports scene outside of single major event per year
>Entire game and prizepool is crowdfunded
>Less players, since forever
>Over 50% of the playerbase and e-sports viewerbase is russian
>"It's better because I said so" - Every dota player with an insecurity complex

Amazing the lengths Pcbros will go to justify getting jewed out of their shekels, at least all the heroes are free I guess

I used to play TF2, let me tell you, I will never touch another Valve game with muh steam marketplace shit ever again.
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>>377133489
No, fucking goddamn I want to dunk with Yi and one-shot people with lich bane mordekaiser
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>>377133753
Go ahead and tell us what kind of games you play then grandpa so we can laugh at you back
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>>377123835

I got a question:
I stopped playing this piece of shit back when Darius was released, and even then, LoL didn't have a replay feature, which was something that was promised but Riot never delivered, does it have it now ?
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>fast paced

fuck outta here
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>>377133489
>>377133821
>It's fun for me so fuck everyone else
>I only have fun if someone else isn't

go play Hearthstone, it was literally designed for dumbasses like you
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>>377123835
Because most of the strategy and play revolves around grinding gold and experience; interaction with opponents is only a secondary or opportunistic objective for the first 10-20 minutes.
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I hate MOBAS, and I really really tried to like them.
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>>377133597
You know why LoL is so huge and this flaw barely makes a difference?

Because most people play few champs and have only a few runepages. Most people play regularly for years, in a few months they play with friends and then once they have everything they legit don't know what to do with IP because they don't want to get all champs.

Like, 90% of the game are teenagers that play one or two roles. Why would they all be playing all champions? Context on the flaw is what matters.
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>>377133784
>less players

Yeah I, too, really benefit from a ton of people playing my game somewhere in Indonesia or China.
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>>377133976
Irrelevant argument, playercount is indicative of the fact the game is better. The only people who will argue otherwise are unironic fedoratipper hipsters

You only play dota because you played dota first and have some internal monologue where you can't enjoy anything popular, you miserable shit
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>>377133667
That's just a placebo effect, Kass has always been OP due to his kit but people suddenly remember him because of a irrelevant buff.
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>>377132813
No, the game is still shit
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>>377134120
You're a moron. Not even gonna bother.
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>>377133864
It does but no one really uses it
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>>377132994
HotS's quick match doesn't really give an accurate show of the game, in the same way that QM in Overwatch doesn't give an accurate view of the game (if you used OW's QM to judge it, you'd probably think the game revolves around getting oneshotted by random stupid bullshit all the time and spending twenty seconds to walk back to point).

>>377133142
Laning for twenty minutes IS slow-paced.
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>>377133940
Yes, let's make sure that nobody can fuck anybody, ever. That sure sounds like fun.
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>>377134120
mobafags usually just play one and stick with it, damned the rest

I've played them all and they're all shit, but League was probably the most fun. Dota the most serious, which is why autists demand it's the best, because it's hardcore ezmode strategy.
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>>377133753
>The reward loops got these fucks addicted
Pretty much that, and also the fact that it's shiny and visually pleasant draws in teenagers and kids.
>They LITERALLY dont have the thinking capacity to realise how fundamentally flawed this game is.
They don't think at all, about anything. I have a friend who's Diamond 2/3 or so and he's basically become a zombie. He's been playing LoL since 2011 and that's all he knows. He dismissed Dota 2 as outdated shit and stopped playing everything else.
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>>377134301
triggered buttmad dota autist can't take the fact his game is shit run by jews, lashes out at internet strangers enjoying an actual good game, denounces them as idiots for not enjoying his plate of shit

more news at 10
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>>377134120
Not him, but I've played LoL for 2 years before switching to DotA, and it's infinitely superior
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>>377134383
I played wc3 dota, hon, league, dota 2, smite and hots

Dota 2 is the best. But LoL, Smite and HotS are all playable and enjoyable for different reasons. HoN was good too but S2 is a shit company that killed themselves, they should've just gone f2p from the getgo.
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Oh it's actually free to play? No gated price points with either in game or real life currency? I sure hope OP isn't lying.
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>>377134334
It's funny because the community BEGGED for a Sandbox mode and now that we have it barely anyone uses it ROFL

Also voice chat is coming and I bet my tight ass that no one is going to use it either.

The fact that you can ping virtually anything now will make voice chat negligible for anyone that isn't master or challenguer.
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>>377134334

>a useful tool that helps you highlight mistakes you make
>"no one really uses it"

very telling, thanks tho.
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>>377134505
>HoN

thanks for reminding me

even the entirety of /lolg/ agree that piece of shit was gold and it's a shame it never got big like it deserved

fugg
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>get back into LoL
>All the toons I used to play are trash now due to either nerfs or power creep
>Have to grind for 100 games to unlock a new toon
I'll pass.
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>>377133940
you can't be fucking serious. Please tell me you're being ironic, this is just embarrassing
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>>377124202
GeyBoiBrian
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>>377123835
i spent 420 € on this shitpile of game (no meme here) and it made me sad in the long run
do yourself a favour and deinstall
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They need to find a way to make LoL cheaper for new players.
If someone starts that game now, good luck with the grind buddy. You'll be grinding 24/7 for many, many, many months.
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>>377127201
>>377124205
>>377133220
HotS isn't a MOBA, it's a Hero Brawler.
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>>377127950
Wow you can see the 4 stages of elo hell in silver - diamond 5's
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>>377123835
Because Smite's in third-person and thus better while patching just as frequently with a less jewish pay model.
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>>377134516
f2p

before game you select summoner spells, runes and masteries

you unlock most summoner spells by lv 10 I think, easy

runes and masteries take a while, masteries have a core one that is unlocked at lvl 18, kind of a disadvantage, runes have two tiers, 2 and 3

2 are IP each, you get a full runepage for nothing, 3 are slightly stronger and are for when you want to get serious and play ranked but barely make a diffrence

you can buy champs with game money or real life money, newer champs cost 6300 IP and old ones 450 IP
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>>377134814
grind to 30 is piece of cake these days, runes cost basically nothing now they discounted the only useful ones

unlocking champs is still a fucking pain
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>>377134383

They usually play only one and stick with it because they want to get good at it and mobas typically differ so vastly that its not worth the time investment of playing more than one because they just want to git gud.

>I play no mobas now, after playing dota for 10 years and league for 3.

Why might you ask? Because no matter how good you are you will always be 9v1, as long as you solo queue.

Sometimes you will be 2v8 or 3v7 but maybe out of 1000 games you will only find a good 5v5 once or twice for your typical run of the mill player. Of course this changes as people improve, but let's be honest, 3000-4000 mmr or gold 5-1 being your average person, you aren't finding that much fun.
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>>377134826
>HotS
>Multiplayer
check
>Online
check
>Battle
check
>Arena
check
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>>377134120
Started with league during the closed beta, migrated to HoN after trying it about two years later, got an invite to dota 2 just after the first international and never looked back. I'm sure people enjoy their games for reasons and dota 2 just stuck with me. Even now despite all it's changes, the game is fantastic.
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>Ruined Shen
>Ruined Master Yi
>Ruined Mordekaiser
>Ruined Poppy
>Ruined Sion
Why does Riot like to make reworks instead of admitting that their constant rebalancing only changes the game all the time instead of make it stable?
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>>377123835
Because it feels like a cheap korean knockoff version of the genre and looks like its from 2005.

>Client is terrible, why would they ever make that separate from the game
>Game looks graphically completely underwhelming, HoTS looks better than it even
>UI feels cheap and poorly made
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>>377134814
You underestimate the power of casuals

I have a fujoshi friend who isn't a gamer at all and she capped in two weeks and had like 10 female champs in a month plus a skin for each one

She's full of key frags but lacks chests rofl
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>>377124031
>>377133753
/v/ has spoken about MOBAs ever since they gained traction It simply slowed down once /vg/ was created. Fuck off newfags.
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>>377134694
>Power creep
What is Annie, Ryze, Warwick, Ashe
All 480, all in the meta
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>>377134516

It's not free to play, as much as the game proclaims it is. If you want to get anywhere at a reasonable or even slow pace, you will be paying money. Progression is very slow and there are far too many things to unlock, many of which lack any sort of satisfaction.
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>>377134814
I started in 2011 and the grind was hard back then. They also used to release a new character every 15 days! But you used to get a lot more IP plus Tribunal. Now it's abysmal, it seems like Riot gave up on getting new players and wants to keep old players happy (just keep throwing skins at them, they will buy anything).
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>>377133836
i don't play games, they're a waste of time, child.
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>>377134932
Sadly all multiplayer games made in the modern day follow this style of gameplay

Makes it so if you're shit you can blame someone else and keep playing and spending money
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>>377123835
Im going to play Aram right now ^^
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>>377134694
tell me what your toons are

also unless you are master or challenguer even bad champs barely make a difference, hashinshin got to masters playing aatrox for fucks sakes
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>>377135089
>(just keep throwing skins at them, they will buy anything)

It's genuinely disgusting how much skins cost and even more disgusting to see 4/5 people in every single game have a skin.
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>>377133220
>t's not one of the better ones it's just the one you don't hear people complain about because there's nothing to complain about because the game is so bland and tasteless
From what I've heard match times are much shorter than other mobas, so it's already better than the others.
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>>377134881
this

better skins too
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>>377135225
If you want a short game where you throw your head at an objective with a class of colourful different characters Blizzard already has another game that fits that bill a lot better
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>Be me play Mid.
>after 5 minute 1 AFK in my team.
>Ok.jpg
>Start to snowball my lane and get feed.
>Rest of my team start to feed.
>go top and bot helping them.
>Continue to get feed.
>Tell my team we all need to push mid cause otherwise is lost in the long run.
>Get a Penta mid and start to push (just 2 tower remaning)
>Team goes all around killing jungle minion
>That happen 5 times
>Lose the match with a score of 45/12/X
>All enemy team honor me
>FUCK THAT SHIT
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>>377135279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xeq9l7DNY

You can literally die from cringe when playing
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>>377135326
I don't want to play hots, hell I barely even want to play overwatch with how much they squander its potential.
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>>377124031
Someone at riot signed up a new shill budget for lol at 4chan. They are even shilling at r9k/
Simple.
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>>377135440
good, then why are you here?
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>>377135223
You know that most people buy skins on sale right? Also why does it bother you how other people spend their money? I mean univerally everyone agrees that LoL skins are pretty high tier, compare them to OW skins rofl
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Riot has really great support, they reply instantly and help you out. Also reporting actually works in this game, reported 2 autists for incoherent shittalking and they got banned.
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>>377135494
because blizzard is bribing people to play their moba
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>>377135425
I have it. I had hoped it would be more annoying actually. The dog only speaks in like 3 lines so it was disappointing.

Dunno how people can cringe at silly skins. I get being annoyed but I just don't take them seriously.
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>>377135279
Looks so shitty man how can people play smite?
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>>377123835
they reworked every champion I liked to play into some dash+skillshot nuke+shield piece of shit

so I moved to DotA 2 and got tired of the genre a few months in
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>>377123835
>Plebs balancing the game
No thank you
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>>377135534
They also give you RP(1 to 10) if you draw them stuff and tell them you need it for a skin, pretty bro-tier
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>>377135537
I play League, I play Overwatch

All that free skin promotion did was teach me that hots is not a moba worth playing and now I actively go out of my way to tell people to just play Lol or Dota instead
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>>377123835
Because you need friends to play.

Otherwise your game goea like this: everyone furiously types mid or feed and the rest of the match is shit.
There was one time i picked blitz support and got the last two guys decided to play bot lane and i had to go against trynd. Toplane. That ended poorly. Did kill him once but it was a free farmfest with the nothing i could do against him.
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>>377134960
>I like the new sion
>The Warwick update made him fun as fuck
>The Yorick update made him fun
>The Galio update made him fun
Riot can make some good updates , while making some updates more shittier than the previous version
>3rd Ryze update and they still can't make him balanced
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>>377135425
>>377135571
So it's just a stupid skin? and it's meant to be cringe?
Thank god, I'm not sure what I would do if this was unironic, it's still pretty fucking gay though.
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>>377135647
I'd trust Meddler over Icefrog anyday
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>It's fast paced and fun

Youre a lying and stupid nigger. League is the slowest ASSFAGGOTS of them all, you assholes are also the ones that forced that stupid MOBA moniker even though it doesn't make sense and is incorrect.


League is also atrociously balanced. It's been that way since beta, and it hasn't changed at all.
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C9 C9 C9

STAY FREE TSM
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>>377135698
Cool, I go out of my way to tell people to not play any mobas because the genre is inherently garbage.
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>>377135748
>Icefrog
Are you kidding me? He has nothing to do with Dota 2 for a long long time now.
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>>377131913
>Report feature actually does something for once in a videogame

Autists complain because they can't be "le toxic"
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I have.
I've stopped after around 4000 matches, mostly normals, with the seasonal 10-20 games to get plat.
SoloQ is a pointless struggle, the closer you get to your skill level, the slower you climb. The daily couple normal games with friends are no different than watching tv out of habit.

Easily accessible multiplayer games were a mistake.
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>>377130145
It was like 3 years ago max, Zed's abilities still function the exact same therefore it could be repeated and is still fundamentally the same game.
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>>377135743
Yes they make silly skins with the intention of them being silly. They have plenty of serious/badass skins and recolors too. Not all the skins have unique voices either.
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>>377135860
>Easily accessible multiplayer games were a mistake.

this so goddamn much
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>>377135702
Don't you get like 5 times more IP if you play with 4 friends? Riot knows that solo play sucks dick
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>>377123835
>Player goes AFK

Well there goes 40 minutes of playtime.

Still the only game to not deal with AFK players.
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>>377135785
TSM losing fucking gives me an orgasm, it's amazing
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>>377135850
Do you have any facts to back that up?
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>>377123835
>fast paced
>fun

Nice try Phreak
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>>377135860
>SoloQ is a pointless struggle
Not if you play for fun rather than to climb MMR.
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>"that character looks really cool"
>"cant wait until i finish grinding for a whole week so i can buy him"
>finally do it
>cant play him because he's not one of the 10 flavor of the month "meta" heroes
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>>377135126

I'll admit, I'm not a very good moba player and many of those years was Dota 1, I maybe played dota 2 for 3 or 4 years, and out of my few thousand hours played of both games I have had my share of sucky games (gameplay wise, for me, where I didn't do so hot.)

With that said, i've seen thousands of people, literally thousands at this point in time flame ALL GAME because they have no foresight, they are playing in the moment, they will flame flame flame when you're losing not realizing you have a late game comp, or whatever it is, and then the flaming stops when you win.

NOBODY enjoys the ride anymore with mobas or rarely enjoys themselves because the good moments are overtaken by the overwhelmingly cynical and pessimistic players.

Unfortunately I understand this mindset because I used to have it, because after seeing so many foreign players troll and shit talkers poke and prod teammates until they flip out you become jaded and that's the point where most solo MOBA players are and that's why their community is shit.

TL;DR: If you want to play a MOBA today play it with friends and if you are to solo q play it sparingly.
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>>377136142
NO THIS GAME IS UNBALANCED AND I DESERVE CHALLENGUER BUT MY TEAM BRINGS ME DOWN REEEEEEEEEE THE FACT THAT MASTER AND CHALLENGUER PLAYERS CAN 1V9 AND I CAN'T DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT
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>>377123835
I did and burned myself out years ago. /v/ used to love it too. We had OC out the ass. But like me, I think everyone got tired of specific things, like flash being mandatory and no deny except as Gangplank.

I've also seen the bans from meta deviation. I remember having a lot of success playing an AS Mahlazer, having voidlings that tore apart anything and my Ult just being CC. It seems like I'd get banned now for that.
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I don't play mobas for the same reason I don't play other team based games.

The fact that your success hinges on four or more retards that you have very little control over makes these games very unattractive to me.
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>>377136174
t. someone who has never play LOL
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>in League they balance everything
>everything is so fucking hard to kill any more
>in Dota everything's so broken it's balanced
>profit
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>ctrl+f "rofl"
>4 results
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>>377125427
>shared xp means the game takes less skill

except it's the complete opposite. Because you cannot get fed on an individual level, you have to be aware of how your actions affect the entire game. You can't just continuously kill a guy weaker than you over and over and then 1v5 the enemy team. It's not as "fun" (because let's be real, the entire reason to play MOBAs is to get fed and then 1v5), but it's more balanced as an actual game.

Items aren't really a big deal because your builds are generally the same in most games with one or two variations. Levelling skills are the same thing: you're pretty much ALWAYS going to put your first point in Q, your second point in W, etc etc. HotS also has an equivalent with its talent system.

Different numbers of active abilities don't mean characters are less mechanically-intensive than ones in LoL. Many are, but there's characters like The Lost Vikings (you control three different heroes at once) that are far harder than anything you'd have in LoL.

HotS does suffer from a shitty vision game, though, but it's probably necessitated because of how teamfights are constantly happening.

>>377124909
>no jungling

it does have jungling though

PvE is not more skillful than laning, not even in LoL. If you mean to say that you need macro skill, HotS is ENTIRELY macro gameplay. Your individual actions barely matter, and you don't win the game by just dumpstering the other guy in lane.

HotS has different maps, each with their own different metagames, and most players don't even know what the metagame is. If you asked them how to play Temples or Braxis or Cursed Hollow, they wouldn't even know where to send their team, unlike in LoL, where people will immediately tell you solo top, solo mid, adc/suppport bot, jungle.
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>>377136292
This is pretty accurate actually
>>377136320
all me
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>>377136107
kek patch 7.00 that basically butchered the game is the final proof anon.
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>>377133864
Yes there are replays right now.
Replays don't work though on patches other than the one they were played in, so when 7.10 comes out any replays you saved during 7.9 wont be usable anymore.
They intend to fix this and other issues with the system, but they figured it was better to at least release something instead of making people wait another 7 years.
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>>377123835
LoL will always be a 3rd rate piece of shit MOBA.

Dota 2 exists, better in every single aspect except cute girls.
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>>377123835

>game that forces your hand when picking characters and strategies
>get spit on when you actually think for yourself
>fun
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>>377127691
Because HoTS has literally nothing else going for it but the map variety, and the game is such an unbelievable fucking piece of shit its not even worth it for that.

HoTS maps are also fucking garbage and the entire game just lends itself to one-sided snowballing. Worst non-phone MOBA out there.
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>>377136292
>in League they balance everything
>everything is so fucking hard to kill any more

HAHAHAHAHAHHAA
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>>377123835
Do they have more than 3 maps yet?
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>>377136272
at least in games like dota, if you're good, you can carry your team because every player can have a high impact. In LoL, since every character is weak, you can only win by knowing the tiniest timings and the smallest details of mechanics at higher levels since there's no strategy and it's all about muscle memory
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>>377136485
How does that prove anything?
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>>377136646
>if your good
You faggots really are this delusional

But argue with me and try to make me believe that pic related actually took skill when this faggot just stands there and rolls his hand across the keyboard.
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>>377136637
They only make maps for new modes that rotate every month because only 1% of the population played TT and Dominion(RIP). Everyone only plays SR.
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>>377136801
He had to be incredibly fed to do that

How do you think he got fed?
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>>377136801
That isn't the Earth Shaker being good but the enemy being really fucking dumb.
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>>377136801

To be fair he counterpicked 40% of the enemy team with ES, and used the ability ES has. Seems like the enemy misplayed by grouping up to me.

It wasn't his skill and this doesn't show a lack of skill by the ES, but it shows that the enemy team is full of retards.
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>>377123835
because hon is better
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>>377136801
You could argue no "play" takes skill, its the other guys fucking up not the person being good.
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>>377135467
>implying riot gives a fuck about /v/
Hahahaha
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Nah friendo
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>>377136915
By playing a piece of shit game that lets one person solo the entire enemy team instantly. What's the point in even having 5v5 then?
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>>377136801
>Grouping up with all of your spiderlings and treants against AssShaker
What the fuck were they expecting
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>>377136801
>team knows that they're up against an Earthshaker
>team knows Earthshaker is alive
>team probably knows Echo Slam is off cooldown
>team probably notices Earthshaker has a Blink Dagger

>team pushes highground with Broodmother, Nature's Prophet, and Phantom Lancer, while knowing all of this
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Have some more embarrassing shit
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>>377123835
>Take Galio, a champion that, while outdated, still held some merit and his overall kit only needed a good amount of tweaking to be good.
>Flay him, gut him, use his organs as exotic cuisine, and have someone else wear his skin
I will never not be mad.
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>>377136142
>playing ranked for fun

Don't lie to yourself, nobody plays ranked for fun.
Even if you don't care about mmr, the game is worse because you'll have to play vs/team with the exact same meta champions every match, and the community is polarized between being tense due to muh lp and ^^ good job well played sucking your dick for anything because they're scared of you getting pissed and giving them a loss.
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>>377137221
>>377137209
No combination (especially one specific thing like positioning) should ever enable a single person to instakill the entire enemy team at once. Your game and all other mobas are a fucking containment zone.
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>>377137249
>I like the new Galio more
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>>377137249
>Malzahar
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>>377137236
>1K trench
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>>377136915
no, the enemy team had to be incredibly stupid to do that
carrying the team on a high-skill hero means using someone like shadow fiend or meepo or invoker
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>>377135045
thank god for containment boards
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>>377137132
>LoLkids are THIS butthurt about how shit their game is
MY SIDES
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/v/ is the only place where I see people thinking snowball in LoL means nothing kek

It shows how very few people here either don't play the game, played the game then quit but read sometimes the news, and the people who keep playing but are low elo and can't carry even when fed because they are bad

If you watch any single challenguer or master stream, you'll see many people carrying 1v5. Hell imaqtpie when he isn't feeding can carry 1v5 too.

Also there are two really strong argument against that.

- Elo Boosters exist. They win games single handledly by themselves and boost an account's rank. How the fuck would they be able to do that if it's not possible to carry the game by yourself?

- Scarra said it. Despite Riot's attempts at nerf snowballing, it still exists and it's just natural in a MOBA, a 3/0 carry with 2k gold and 2 levels up will always have a huge edge UNLESS he plays bad with his lead which doesn't happen in high elo.

These two arguments are supported by challenguer players, so can't see how a /v/ silver surfer would be able to debunk that.
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Everyone in HotS is so fucking bad at video games it's not even funny
It's like playing the game with a bunch of facebook grannies
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>>377137515
/v/ is the containment board now. /vg/ is for dicussing the video games you care about.
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>>377137249
Yeah man all those 15 galio mains in the whole world must have killed themselves.
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>>377123835
>>377123915
>>377124012
if /v/ liked MOBAS dota would be praised and not this chink-funding game. honestly its like cod compared to dark souls, grow up children.
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>>377129809
literally sped up gif
>>377137679
sure thing bud, look at moba or mmo general threads. The worst is the Skyim thread. if you honestly believe /vg/ isn't a containment board you're confused
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>>377123835
>It's fast paced and fun
Yes doing fucking nothing for 30 minutes while your teammates make sure the enemy team levels faster and gets more gold surely makes for some fast paced gameplay!
Fuck off with your mobacancer you piece of shit shill nigger faggot loser cunt fucking micropenis.
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>>377124205
I have all the heroes and have never bougjt any
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>>377137679
they're both shit. there are somewhat decent generals on /vg/ and some decent threads on /v/.
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>>377137868
>Yes doing fucking nothing for 30 minutes

I'll list many things you can do in 30 minutes

>Roam
>Invade with jg
>Get kills in top
>Group for rift or drags
>Get towers
>Push and tp in other lanes

On the top of my head, literally the only people who never leave lane are Bronze players. Oh wait I think I see the connection.
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>>377137608
this. its why i quit lol, all their buzzwords amount to their shit game. i'm not sure but the first time i heard about 'toxic behavioir online' it was during the LoL beta.
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>>377137758
>le dark souls is so hardcore maymay
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>>377137132
You're a moron. Maybe you shouldn't have fed him so much?

It's a good thing that one person can carry. At least that way I can make up for having 4 shitty russians on my team and carry them to their undeserved victory
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>>377136915
>Incredibly fed
Blink dagger and level 6 is enough to do that. Not fed by any means.
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>>377123835

Because its a shit game, with shit design, shit mechanics, and shit players.

Its like willingly hitting myself in the dick with a hammer for 30 minutes to an hour at a time. Why the fuck would I do that?
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>334 replies

yep, /v/ is shit now
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>extreme amount of skill needed to play at the top level
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>>377137120
That's horrible, I am uninstalling LoL right now!

Nobody cares.
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>>377123835
>"fast paced and fun"
If you play with friends. ONLY. If you play with friends. And no one else, ever. As someone who solo queued for 6 months straight, playing this game without friends was the shittiest gaming experience of my life. I don't think I'll ever touch it again.
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>>377124202
Toplane AD Janna.
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>have only four maps
>remove one
>Don't worry, we'll give you an exclusive avatar icon as compensation!
What a bunch of faggots.
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>some years ago
>playing Street Fighter IV AE with a friend, when It came to PC
>he invite me to play lol of legends
>never played it in my life
>cheek on internet
>see this
>NOPE.JPG

Now a days I play Dota2. He tried to play it in beta, but quit because he couldn't understand why a game has turn rates.
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>>377139132
LoL can beat their waifus and piss on their crops, shitters are forever trashed in elo hell and in that game
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>>377133220
Different strokes, buddy.

I always despised the pve aspect of mobas, it's just not fun at all. I get that it adds most of the depth of the game, but it's just not enjoyable.

HotS is the only moba I can stand playing
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>>377124354
Show me your Challenger account if it's so easy.
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>>377124202
Lee sin mid
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I'd like to start playing it but it feels like you need to study hard just to learn what items to buy and stuff.
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>>377137120
>hearthstone but with chinese historical figures

That's fucking sick, is it avalible in the west?
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>>377123835
Already played from 2009-2011, game haven't improve much, power creep is insane with new heroes. And game is not competitive because they still have summoner spells and runes and oh yeah BUYING CHAMPIONS.
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>>377139702
There's a sandbox mode so you can spend 10/15 minutes to test items if you want
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>>377126167
>> more of one-guy-carrying-the-team instead of actual teamwork
They've made it a lot harder to solo carry.
>>377126325
You're forced to play against bots before going PvP, so either you're lying, or your team was bad enough to /ff against AI.
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>>377137071
exactly what a shill would say!
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>>377137734
>you have to constantly play a character in order to give a shit about them.
This is my favorite meme
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>>377134826
Hero brawler herva hayvie, you made that up!
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>>377123835
>LoL
>Fast
>>
i'd like Overwatch to have as much character as dota/lol

having a large choice of character with diverse gameplay from low skill to very high skill and near useless if you don't know how to play it could be amazing, and i would love to see Blizzard designs for this :)
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>>377126843
Is it really broken if they balance the game around it?
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>>377126918
>>Games are decided by minute 15 due to massive snowballing mechanics and no general comeback options
t. hasn't played in years
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>>377140014
Even if I did that I'd have no idea whether I'm doing it right or not.
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>LoL thread
>ctrl+f dota
>60 results
Will dotards ever learn?
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>>377123835
Developers specifically stated that they 'balance' the game around the lowest common denominator.

So many 'champs' are just slight variations of each other with boring skills.

forced meta 'balance' and shallow gameplay, especially with all the pigeonholing.

one of the most dumbed down Aeon of Strife style game.
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>>377123835
>shit type of game
>not fun
>unbalanced trash
>filled with the shittiest people ever
>Riot
Hmm, I wonder why?
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>>377139816
ten cents has been added to your account
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>>377140663
don't forget the 'totally not pay 2 win I swear' model
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>>377137071
you literally came here because you heard of us from reddit or sneakys stream. this place is more popular than you think redditor
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>>377136398
You can't even say HotS is harder when you're struggling to defend why it has less choice than League. Both games are shit fest moba 101 but LoL definitely takes more work than the Heroes minigame bonanza.
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>>377138519
>now
newfag detected
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>>377134950
So then 90% of online games are MOBAs?
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>>377123835
I fucking hate MOBAs. Played League years ago, didn't have fun. Played it last year, went about as well as it did last time. They're just not fun
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>>377133632
If you can 1v3 under your tower in Heroes you are playing bots. The towers might as well not exist when minions show up or they run out of shots. Agro jungling in League is important throughout the entire game, but it's still possible to tower dive in the first few waves. Hell it used to be done with level 2 characters, but the tower still had to be respected in teamfights 20 minutes in.
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>>377123835
Because it is so free to play that every type of person plays it.
Including insufferable asshole.
9 times out of 10 you will be paired with more than one insufferable asshole and it ruins the game.
You can go into the game with a mindset of "I'll just fuck around" You will still come out of that game pissed off.

League is a engine of hate in which it's exhaust is cancer.

I'm glad I left that train behind 7 year ago.
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>>377129137
>creeping is boring as fuck
this is what kills it for me, you wait 10 minutes to get into a match then do nothing for 15-20 more
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I haven't played in 2 years, what am I missing?
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>>377123835
>Play it with friends
>Get to the point where I can't stand the game anymore
>Quit
>After a while realize that it's the only multiplayer game my friends play frequently
>Come back because I don't want to be alone
I need to break this cycle somehow.
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Smite is the 2nd best moba after Dota 2 desu
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>>377142019
I did this with Overwatch except I just kept trashing the game after I quit and now most of my friends just became jaded with it too and quit.
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You know, back in the day, I mean really
REALLY back in the day
I'm talking about 5.84 Dota
When everyone just played 2v2 lanes everywhere

I miss those days
I liked 2v2 lanes
Only 2v2 lane in League is bottom lane and jesus christ it just gets worse and worse every year
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>>377142487
I'm thinking 2v2 lanes outside of bot could make a comeback soon in LoL since the jungle is garbage now.
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>>377142487
I hate how strict LoL is about everything.
You can never do ANYTHING even REMOTELY different or you'll get reported right away.
It's so set in stone and they're unwilling to allow any creativity.
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>>377123835
I started in S3, played until S5 and then took a break until S6 started. Then I got bored of game one week before Ivern got released and haven't touched it since. It just gets old eventually, like all games.
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Remember that time EA tried to make a moba?
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>>377136002
I was playing when they still ranked you with elo numbers and not precious metals.
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>>377123835
>still has a forced lane meta
>still has flash
Until those are gone, LoL is incapable of being anything more than a polished turd.
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>>377123835
I don't see the fun of it.
When I play, I don't feel like I'm having fun.
All my friends who play LoL say that they stopped having fun with it, and are only playing it because they are addicted to it.
Why is it fun?
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>>377143380
LoL has flash, Dota has blink dagger
so what
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>>377123835
Why should I play when Heimer (and most other champs) are still shit because they always balance towards newest releases for a cash grab
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>>377124031
/v/ has been playing these games since day one, but feel free to stay in your imaginary safe space
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>>377143561
check the patch notes
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Is Teemo still as fun as he was way back then like 3-4 years ago?
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>>377143561
caitlyn is getting legendary skin + nerfs btw
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>>377143493
Blink Dagger can't be used while you're taking damage, though.
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>>377143493
Flash is given to all ten players for free from level one without consuming an item slot and can be used to escape from combat at the very instant you realize you fucked up

Blink dagger costs 2250 gold, clogs up an item slot with zero stats, isn't bought by everyone, and can't be used for several seconds after taking damage

That's what
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>>377143493
One is needed on basically everyone while the other is a core item only on a few heroes.
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>>377123835
It's a pile of garbage and I had my fill of the game years ago.
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>>377123835
>It's fast paced and fun
you can finish a hots game before the laning phase even ends in league
AND the gameplay is better
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>>377144017
Laning phases are fun.
I enjoy playing the mind games, zoning, last hitting while keeping the enemy from doing so
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>>377124098
>>377128719
I've heard even the old professional players reminisce about season 2. I haven't played in years so maybe it's gotten better but season 2 was the only season I actually enjoyed
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>>377144101
then go out to the park and play chess it's f2p and way more about mind games and getting the epic plays
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>>377124098
Fuck yeah.
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>>377144017
HotS is good if all you want to do is have constant team brawls. I've had games where it was literally one big pile of 5v5 fights with the ones dying respawning and joining back in for several minutes in a row.
It's a clusterfuck.

A few exceptions aside most heroes in HotS simply have too much health or do too little damage, team fights can drag on forever.
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The community isn´t as cancerous as everybody says once you reach gold and stop getting
turks, spics and french people in your team.
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>>377134950
>Call of Duty
>Multiplayer
check
>Online
check
>Battle
check
>Arena
check
>Merely pretending
kys
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>>377144424
The fact that LoL people whine about "toxic" people just because they say "gg ez" makes me want to stay away already.
If you get triggered by harmless shit like that then you're probably some SJW
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>>377143050
Yeah I started before s2 and stopped before you by a bit. It will never be the game that it was. I've played a few games and had some fun, but honestly the game is so thought out at this point that nothing feels new.
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>>377144017
>AND the gameplay is better
>people actually think tickling massive balls of HP against each other and robotically doing everything the map tells you is fun
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>>377123835
>actually free to play
Lel.
>>
LoL is the last game to be called balanced.
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>>377144703
To be fair, LoL might as well be that at this point.
The meta is set in stone. The lanes are set in stone. All roles are set in stone. You do this or you get banned.

No creativity, no surprises allowed.
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>>377144424
>The community isn´t as cancerous as everybody says once you reach gold and stop getting
>turks, spics and french people in your team.
That's funny because the most awful people I've ever met were in Plat and low Diamond games.
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>played a little LoL many years ago
>saw a thread on /a/ or /v/ about an anime referencing a series between TSM and C9 recently
>find the vods on reddit
>first game
>4 heroes I don't recognize are picked
>check the release dates on them
>they're the last 4 released
>the guy playing the new top lane hero whiffs at least 4 skillshots in a 1v1 and still wins the duel (barely) against his opponent
This is why I stopped playing LoL. The power creep with each successive release is absurd to the point they have to rework their old heroes to keep up.
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>Ryze has the lowest win rate out of all champs right now

What did they do to my buddy Ryze
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>>377145001
Well I mean, you actually choose when to take objectives and the focus is on actually pushing and winning instead of winning timed events to do it for you

The game also actually has burst

don't get me wrong, LoL's rigidity is complete ass and there's really no excuse for it, but all things considered I still find it a much more engaging game than HotS
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>>377124374
Riot actually just talked about this. After they fired Riot "everything is toxic" Lyte, they realized he was ruining their game and have done a 180. They plan to release a lot more sexy male and females as they believe it's a good fantasy that a lot of people enjoy.

nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/04/ask-riot-the-sexy-factor/
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>>377145265
Did they also go back on their insane "gg ez is ban worthy" stance?
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>>377145120
Just wait for the 518749th rework, I'm sure Riot will get him right this time.
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because if I wanted to play casual dota I'd play hots
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>>377131402
I got permabanned for tilting the kids on the enemy team by calling myself a fag :]
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>>377145373
No sadly, but Riot has made a lot of good changes in the past year. They are even looking at voice comm for 2018, so there is hope.
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>>377143706
/v/ has also been shitting on these games forever
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>>377144424
It's not any specific tier, mate. People are full autismos in ranked the closer you get to each new skill floor. Bronze might be the only exception because fucking nobody can call themselves good at that level.
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>>377145265
Didn't they say recently that they were going to focus on muh diversity?
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>>377123835
>It's fast paced and fun
No that's hots. League is slow as fuck and if you get first blood, you already won. If someone on your team gives first blood, you already lost. 20 minute matches always, unless you have trolls because there is NO WAY to make a comeback atleast 99% of the time.
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>>377131510
This post reeks of underage trying to fit in.
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>>377124226

>look at how good I am I can go behind your tower teehee!
>oh no if you chase me you'll die

Singed needs a complete rework he's fucking boring.
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>>377145120
He was so good in the pro scene they have had to nerf him constantly since his rework. He's still good but, you just need to be either a one trick or actually good at the game to play him. Also his ult is amazing if your team is coordinated and actually useless if not.
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>Playing mobas in the year of 2017
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>tfw finding SMITE to be far more fun than LoL
Cabrakan is a pretty cool guy
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>>377123835
Biggest reason why I'd never recommend it is the crazy amount of fucking grinding you have to do to get the heroes.

Add to that the runes. AND RUNE PAGES you have to buy

it's a joke
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>tfw feeling the moba itch again but played too much dota and can't go back to that

I like all the others abour equally, smite, hots, league
not sure what to do

On the other hand if I go back to my league acc from way back then too, that one is level 30, I haven't played in so long I'll just get slaughtered and be a pain for my team cause I lost all knowledge
But it has a lot of champs unlocked and some runes and so on
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>>377123835
I hit DV S4 or S5, then didnt play for like two seasons. One because Dynamic Queue and another because I didn't want to get back into it.

I tried playing again, but mostly because the Warwick rework is fun as fuck. Hardstuck low plat with like 200 games despite maintaining an 80% WR out of gold. I dunno what it is but jungle feels weaker and it I can no longer outlevel opponents despite signifigant KDA difference.

Design decisions like RNG drakes and plants just feel like shitty clutter. There are games that were decided because my drag control gave us triple cloud instead of triple red, or vic versa. There have been zero interactions with blast cone that I thought were an interesting play, I just have to destroy them as a chore or potentially lose free kills.

Balance continues to be all over the fucking place. I think most recent retardation was literal champ specific advantages, as in if you dont pick bird bro with his bitch you lose out on a spell range and faster recall.

I just play sporadically now, don't think Im gonna reach DV again.
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>>377145742
>Playing the game = grinding
If you don't enjoy the game in the first place you won't like it after getting all the champs and all the runes you want.
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>>377145565
The most recent talk on champion design have been bringing older champions with outdated kits into the current meta, Warwick(done), Galio(done), Eve(next), Urgot(this year) and Shaco(this year). They also plan on doing this for some of the champions that don't need full reworks by introducing more active and niche items, gargoyle stoneplate and adaptive helm, as well as changing older items to be less of a buy in every circumstance, like GA now being AD/armor, abyssal being a tank item and banshees being a ap item. Then the most recent talk was about the fact they haven't released a sexy character in a while, since jinx according to them, and they feel like "I feel sexy" is a good fantasy they want to add more of.
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>>377145553
So?
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>>377142019
Just use discord with your friends while you play whatever you want, that's what I do.
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>>377146153
I tell them to use discord but for whatever reason they prefer skype. I will never be able to comprehend why.
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>>377123835
The community is shitty. I found it enjoyable when playing with friends but with randoms is awful. I stopped playing religiously when I realized I was slowly becoming a toxic asshole when playing.
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>>377145019
The top 10 winrate champions for top are more old than new. Karthus, Pantheon and Kayle are the top three and haven't seen a major rework within the last 2 years or longer.
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>>377123835
>extreme amount of skill needed to play at the top level
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>>377146887
>realize that PV is top 10% of millions
>realize that DV is top 2% of millions
>realize that most people are that retarded
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http://levelup.lol.garena.com/

more would play if they released this in NA
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>Pick character I really like with hopes of countering other characters
>Enemy picks the exact same character

Good thing I grinded up my meme points, thanks Riot!

By the way friendly reminder that Anthony Birch works for Riot now. I'd rather play Dota than that SJW-ridden cuck fest.
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>>377146310
>skype
only lol players would be this stupid
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>>377124374

>Jinx
>Good waifu

I laugh
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>>377147351
>he plays normals

no wonder you hate that game
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>>377147475
They made Jinx so all the small titted gamer gurrls got someone to cosplay
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>>377123835
>improved textures
>all around constant patching and completely fucking over the balance
>devs constantly reworking balanced and loved champions into balance-nightmares that have overloaded as fuck kits
>low amount of skill needed to play at lowest level, extreme amount of skill needed to play at the top level
>actually free to play if you're ok with limiting yourself to 2 of the aviable 5 classic roles
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>>377147851
>actually free to play if you're ok with limiting yourself to 2 of the aviable 5 classic roles
what do you mean?
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>>377124031
/vg/ was created in part because of LoL generals flooding /v/.

/v/ got me into the game way back in 2010 somewhen Irelia was released and it was lots of fun but it's a whole different game now so I can understand why people might hate it. I, myself, started hating the game when I noticed I was addicted and it was having a negative impact on my life and my general mood.

LoL-free since 2015 and happy.
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>>377148120
I stopped playing when that black guy with the gun came out, what was his name? Something with L I think. Before Jinx.

How did the game change since then? For the better or the worse? Any major changes?
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>>377123835
>extreme amount of skill needed to play at the top level
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>>377128554
>or just buy the hero cuz time is more expensibe tham money
VIDEO GAMES
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>>377124040
>Relying on 4 brainless monkeys
That just means you're bad at the game, bronzelord
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>>377147995
I didn't word that correctly, my bad

Its ye olde "gotta play gorillions of games until you can buy enough runepages to increase your flexibility" thing I dislike about the game
It's just unfair for newcomers and such an obvious IP-drain build only so people are more likely to spend RP
It's basically a kind of "hurrdurr company is evil because they want to maximise profits" but that doesn't interest me as a player, because it hinders flexible gameplay in the beginning
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>>377148289
Lucian was fun (cause abusable) before they toned down his fun with higher cooldowns on his dash. But they do this to every champion so you feel the need to buy the newest shiny one.

They added lots of shit in the jungle and a whole bunch of new items but I haven't been following it since 2015. All the lovable pros I grew up with also quit the scene so it's a bit sad.
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>>377141240
HoTS axed the laning phase, putting a significantly higher amount of emphasis on team fights, objectives, and macro coordination. League's items, skill orders, and talents don't end up being much of a choice, because you're going to take a singular skill order in 99% of your games and your items and talents will have 1-2 slight variations.
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>>377123835
>playing bad dota
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>>377141504
>Multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA), also known as action real-time strategy (ARTS), is a genre of strategy video games that originated as a subgenre of real-time strategy, in which a player controls a single character in one of two teams. The objective is to destroy the opposing team's main structure with the assistance of periodically spawned computer-controlled units that march forward along set paths. Player characters typically have various abilities and advantages that improve over the course of a game and that contribute to a team's overall strategy.
its a moba
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>>377134826
>Multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA), also known as action real-time strategy (ARTS), is a genre of strategy video games that originated as a subgenre of real-time strategy, in which a player controls a single character in one of two teams. The objective is to destroy the opposing team's main structure with the assistance of periodically spawned computer-controlled units that march forward along set paths. Player characters typically have various abilities and advantages that improve over the course of a game and that contribute to a team's overall strategy.
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>>377148728
The amount of team fighting in HotS is almost too much somehow. Some of these constant brawls just drag on and on and on.
Everyone does so little damage.
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>>377148629
Hell they've changed everything you knew then. They change so much shit every season. Lucian might as well be how he was before now also
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>>377123835
I played it beta, I enjoyed it. Its 'free' yes but designed like a mobile game in the ways to grab your money. Community is the most toxic of any moba. When my friends stopped playing I could not be assed to play it alone because it just is not fun anymore, games feel like they drag on dispite it being over in about 15 mins.

Overall worst of the moba's out there right now.
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>>377149139
Do you think LoL is now better than it was some 3-4 years ago?
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>>377124096
You sound familiar, did you get banned buddy?
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>>377123835
For people who like MOBAs it's great.

For people who want somthing a bit more mechanical DOTA2 is great.

For people that don't like MOBAs don't play mobas.

simple senpai
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>>377123835
>have to shit all over meta constantly to keep the game playable
great design right there bruh
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>>377123835
You're angering dotafags. We have an unspoken cease-fire if we don't mention any of these two games.

We can shitpost about HoN or other wannabe MOBAs.
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>>377124202
FaggotHunter69xxxSeigHeil
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>>377148913
>Riot's shitty marketing term has become so widespread it's actually a widely recognized genre label
meme magic is real
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>>377149337
not the guy you replied to
IMO not really
they improved so many "Quality of Life" things and introduced many new stuff that isn't all that bad and brings many moments of joy
but overall the core of the game remains the same:
>every half-year giant patches completely fuck with the meta, so everybody has to figure out how to win games again
>every year the jungle gets fucked over so everybody has to figure out how to jungle again
>every year completely ok items get removed just to add new more gimmicky(and OP) items just to nerf those new items into uselessness again
>every year Riot fails to balance Tanks vs. ADCs
it all gets old after 5 years

It's like LoL can only attract new players/hold old players by completely changing everything every few months instead of actually balancing everything so it becomes a game that is enjoyable enough that you don't play it for the free loot-chests or rewards or whatever
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>>377135094
why are you on a videogames board then faggot?
>>
>40+ minutes games

Ain't nobody got time for that
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Game was dead to me when they touched my waifu trifecta: Sejuani, Quinn and Sona. They carried me easily to Diamond, even with all the bitching and moaning about my picks. Fuck I miss playing support so much, really underated position.

Chilly mittens on Sona was OP.
Quinn needed to be played as an assassin.
Sejuani did decent health % damage to build tank only and still steamroll.

But that's all in the past now.
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>>377149642
Cease-fire is over.

It's fucking war now!
>>
hey guys dunkey here
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>>377150141
Break up with that ugly ass mouse of a girlfriend please, thanks.
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>>377149337
I don't know how to answer that. I have probably some odd 15k+ games played since beta and I've always enjoyed the game at its core, what changes season to season is what is shitty.

Like right now I can't fucking stand the plants and random dragons, and how the new mini Baron guy can take two towers by himself.

They've done a good job at nerfing some pretty cancerous champs and making item options better/balanced but they still do the same shit they always do, put out new broken shit and let it fuck everything for a month.

There is one upside. A lot of the bullshit reasons for losing have been taken care of. You can remake if you have an afk now, and leavers are extremely rare. It's still the AIDS riddled league community but it's a lot less gay now.
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>>377123835
Gave up that shitty game years ago due to the community
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>>377124202
Mrlisterthesisterfist
geyboi
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>>377150104
Dude sej is broken as fuck right now. She's pick or ban every game
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>>377149918
These posts never get replies
Here, take a (you).
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>>377124202
SmegmaLicker69
Rumble
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>>377146310
I had the same problem for a while, you just have to be obnoxious about it and force it lol, once the switch is made everyone will be happier. The only problem is if there's anyone in the group you don't want to be able to join a conversation at will.
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When I last played Vladimir was beyond based and I constantly got myself fed as shit
Is she still good?
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>>377149753
Who cares how we call the genre.
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>>377123835
Because nobody I talk to who actually plays the game seems happy about it.
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>>377150104

>tfw was planning to play lol in 4 years since I quit it in s3
>wanna play quinn because lolfu + quinn top/mid carried me to plat
>read some updates/patch notes before installing
>read about the butchered quinn
>deleted the install.exe before even I started installing the game

They really do hate fun.
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>>377128008
>>every hero is identical
shit bait senpai
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>>377152091
Quinn oneshots squishes. The fuck you talking about? That bitch shits on top and roams like a god.
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>>377148728
Item builds have decent variations on heroes that aren't just focused on maximizing dps. Even those have varying builds at times(lux, ahri come to mind)

I don't see how teamfighting five minutes into the game is any better than a drawn out lane phase with possibilities of 5 man from level 1 thanks to teleport being available on any top laner. League's meta has stagnated, but nearly as hard and with as little scrutiny as Heroes. There is no counterplay against grouping except for grouping better. That's not hard.
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>>377148551
They are completely reworking the rune system later this tea. They want to make runes more flexible and impactful with the ability to change them before each game.
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>>377137120
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sesame_Credit
This is being done by them too.
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>>377151454
He's strong. Heals like a motherfucker with his ult now
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>>377134437
even pro players and streamers say that league is just an addiction and basically means you never play anything else or have other hobbies

the game isn't all bad, some of the characters are legit fun to play, but its too bad its mostly ruined by forced meta and the petulant retards that play the game

its honestly best to just stay away and not let the little things it does right hook you
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>>377152561
>>377148551
Year, no idea why I typed tea.
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>>377151457
A lot of people do
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>>377152820
Goes for most mobas. People that play dota also just play dota foor the most part
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>>377153325
Really? Why? Do you feel like fucked in the ass by Riot every time you say MOBA?
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>>377124012
LMFAO. How is this post not getting fucking destroyed?

League is literally the exact type of game /v/ loves to hate. It's a replica of a niche title that strips it of all its hardcore elements, puts a large amount of its content behind a pay wall, and is run with an iron fist by cancerous devs.

Dota is the game that should be loved, and it would be if not for the fact that RTS fags are still shitting themselves with rage blaming League/Dota for killing the genre when really it was Starcraft 2 being ass.
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>>377152091
Quinn was never fun to me. She was only useful as a top counter and Vayne does that better anyways.
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>>377153931
Only cosmetics are really behind a pay wall. Otherwise you're pretty right, but I've still had good fun with League desu

I'd get into Dota, but the time investment seems silly when the final product will just be a more hardcore moba.
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>>377124012
>by its merits it should be the game /v/ praises the most
u wot m8
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>>377154686
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>moba
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>>377153931
Meh, Gabe is a fucking jew too. They lock new terrains and shit behind hundreds of dollars of compendium money dumps
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I used to play the game, haven't since Yorick rework

The game is fun to play but it's held down by balance issues and a shitty community.

They NEED to stop oversaturating their roster with new champions and instead focus on balancing the ones already out. Adding more kits just makes it even harder to balance.

Also they need to stop enforcing the meta comps and make champions actually have scaling for both AP and AD etc. so there's not one meta item build. I miss AP Yi
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>>377155645
No matter how much of this shit they do, it's not as bad as locking actually gameplay content behind a pay or grind.
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