>You can buy playable characters for REAL MONEY >Or you

...Yes?
What are you trying to say exactly?

>>377106418
Yes, we know. Why are you telling?

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>>377106459
Kill yourself bethesda's shill

>>377106479
yelling*

lul

>>377106418
As if the genre wasn't dead already this is the final nail...

Isn't this a free to play title? What's the problem? Every free to play multiplayer is like this

>>377106497
How about you explain what the problem is instead of shouting into the void?

>>377106418
Game is officially dead

>>377106617
Literally never ever.

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>>377106617
> Isn't this a free to play title? What's the problem? Every free to play multiplayer is like this

Yeah how about no, nigger?
Good "esports" games let you play ALL characters from start without anally locking them behind the pay-wall.

You only think it's like that because you are fucking underage shitlord who's got a Blizzshit treatment.

>>377106645
How about to stop being retarded as fuck?

>>377106418
This is some ultimate jewing

>>377106739
You know you can just buy Quake Champ like a normal game and have 100% of the content, right?
Or do you also believe Counter-Strike, StraCraft and basically every fighting games aren't "true esport titles" because they're not free?

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>game doesn't even have picmip setting

Nu-Quake is garbage.

That's a pretty pathetic business practice.

>>377106825
You don't have 100% content if you HAVE TO RENT THEM FOR 24H you fucking retard.

You don't RENT weapons in CS or RENT units in Starcraft to play a match.

>>377106919
Can you not read? If you buy the game you have everything forever. No renting.

>>377106825
Buying characters? Who gives a shit, regular throw-away DLC. Renting characters is nuts though. I can't see any reason somebody might do that, furthermore it's a first person game so you cant see any of what you paid for seeing as it's (HOPEFULLY) only cosmetic

>>377106969
this is a killler marketing move. they dug their own grave.
F2P fags will shit on them because they don't want to buy or rent
buyfags will unleash their autism on them because they want to be clearly superior to the f2p crowd and don't want to play with them
It's basically the worst of both worlds

>>377106919
Are you fucking stupid?

You can buy them permanently.

Also Out of 4 level up loot boxes I got for free, I got 2 permanent characters

how much will it cost for all heroes though? csgo is 15 bucks so thats the standard

>>377107106
Nu-/v/ doesn't understand that f2p games with PvP should have no restrictions like that.

It was done right in Dota - game is free and every single hero is free as well. Compete all you want. Choose whoever you want.

Now fucking garbage companies like Blizzard and Riot make paywalls to set up a distance between people who want to experience the game the fullest without wasting shit ton of time and money to unlock their garbage and p2win faggots.

>>377107106
I think they should just have made a "trial" version where you can only play one character and only one game mode.

>>377107319
>potential new player doesnt like particular single mode that is provided

>never plays again

>>377107005
>(HOPEFULLY) only cosmetic
have you not read or seen anything about this game? Every character has different stats and skills

>>377107606
And the character they give you for free is stronger than most, so its a non issue

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>we ruined your Fallout
>we ruined Doom
>we are going to ruin Quake

Bethesda - the nostalgia destroyer.

>>377106418
Is this F2P or something now? I could give a fuck about jew tactics if it's f2p since BRs need to suffer, but all characters shouldn't be over $60.

>>377107742
I enjoyed fallout 3.
I played the originals before 3 came out as well, so it wasn't babbies first fallout

>>377107742
fallout 4 at least innovated a lot of mechanics for an rpg. hopefully they focus up on the rpg part in the next fallout/tes

>>377107742
Fallout was ruined by Interplay and Herve Caen. Doom was ruined by iD with 3. Quake is considered to be ruined by Raven with 4, I personally really love Quake 4 but it's a bad/wrong opinion.

>>377107825
>enjoyed fallout 3.

opinion invalidated

implying 90% of this casual board would play quake if they got every character for nothing.

>>377107713
>most

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>>377107860
>fallout 4 at least innovated a lot of mechanics for an rpg

My.
Fucking.
Sides.

>>377107923
Clutch is shit
Lizard Bitch is shit
Slash gets instagibbed by every single weapon

thats 3 out of like 6 that are shit
Making quake-man better than most

>>377107953
settlements and simulations are undoubtedly rpg mechanics.

every rpg lover spent hundreds of hours placing items in houses they stole in morrowind. being able to build your own and precisely place items around is a big part of an rpg experience

youve outed yourself as a casual fag

>>377108075
an rpg should offer more interesting choices then "where will I put this chair?"

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>>377108075
Ah as expected you are just being ironic and not a full blown retard.

>>377108136
would you put it in your hair?

>>377108075
read a book if you dont want to do shit like that, dont pretend to be an rpg enthusiast

>>377106418
>west cuck lets you rent ingame stuff

holy fuck are western developer only run by jews?

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>>377107995
>Lizard Bitch is shit

Except it's probably the most OP hero in the game right now.
Poison shit is extremely overpowered. It's an extra source of damage with pretty significant DPS.

This game runs like shit
No wonder Bethesda is behind it

Okay retards, let me spell it out for you.

This game is a retail release. If you buy it, you'll get all characters and other gameplay-changing elements for free FOREVER. Including everything added post-launch.

You have an OPTION to play it for free and rent characters. Characters are extremely cheap and you rent them for a day. Everything else is unchanged.

You also have an OPTION to pay less just for the champions you really like, rather than for the entire roster.

So you must be truly retarded to think this is a bad business model. It has a "unlock-all" retail release. It has a free mode so people can try it out and the game won't fucking die.

>>377108293
I don't have any problems with the performance.

>>377108390
Why dont you retards every mention that they are extremely easy to get in loot boxes too?

I'm not even mad because the default quake man is strong enough, mobile enough and has a fucking teleport with potential for instagibs.
The part that I'm mad about is the fucking netcode being unstable garbage with the matchmaking being equally shit.
I've been in games where everyone has 5-30 ping yet half the dudes are stuttering around like crazy, some people are literally impossible to hit because of how fucking jumpy their locations are.

>>377108291
I hate that it blocks your vision and you basically immobolize your self from moving and shooting when you spit making yourself get owned

>>377106418
Your fault for thinking it's a F2P game.
It's a B2P game with a very generous demo system that gives you access to all the content.

You can buy to full game to have access to everything including future content, you can buy champions separately or you can play for free and still have access to all the content but with a rent system.

>>377106497
You really should stop, it's the same with Prey, it doesn't make sense to be a shill for a publisher, I'm sure most Id Software fans hate or don't care about Bethesda.

>>377108519
The netcode is awful.
Try limiting your maxfps. I read that apparently you require more upload speed the more fps you have becauseyour position gets uploaded every frame. Hopefully they'll fix it soon.

>>377108519
I noticed after I force-limited my FPS from 244 down to 60, it seemed like I was laggy and couldnt fucking shoot anyone.

I suspect this is the issue most people are having and thinking its the net-code when its really their shit computer or them forcing their FPS lower

>>377108472
Even mentioning loot boxes means more shitposting

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>>377106418
>that garbage netcode

they'll fix it right?

>>377109012
True, but as long as you mention that every 5 levels you get the rarest loot box possible for free, then it could curb some shitposting.

>>377108913
My own connection is fine, I'm on a 40/40 line.
Everyone else is lagging around like crazy. If what you said is true they must be playing at 15 fps or some shit, it's awful.

>>377109000
So 60 fps isn't good enough to even play the game normally? I'm not going to fucking upgrade for this garbage when I can play csgo at 240+, rocket league and kf2 at 120+

>>377109145
>So 60 fps isn't good enough to even play the game normally?

I'm not going to confirm that, because it could just be a side-effect of my GPU fucking with the game.

I'm using an AMD RX480 and limiting the FPS through its software.

>>377108913
Server tick != client tick

>>377106741
> Not seeing the problem with renting characters
> in a F2P game

baka desu senpai

>>377109252
I realize that. I'm saying some poeple were lagging because they had poor upload speed and their connection got clogged due to too much upload from the game.

>>377107995
you didn't understand the point - being stronger than MOST still isn't good enough since there are stronger. either everyone is equal or everyone is free.

>>377109049
Yes they have already mentioned that they are working on the netcode. The beta has been out for about a month now so just relax.
>>377109070
It's so easy to get the ingame currency I don't know why people are having a panic. You can also unlock the characters with the crates or just buy the game.
Most of you dumb fucks are complete shit at video games and so i'm not even surprised about the shitposting alongside the constant Overwatch, mobile and shitty anime games on this board.

>>377108075
>rpg lovers enjoy painfully snapping pieces of tin to wrecked houses because there's no way to repair anything
>rpg lovers enjoy spending hours making settlement walls only to have supermutants spawn inside the walls
>muh immersion

>>377109049
they'll fix it never

>renting characters
>loot boxes
>skins
>waifufags from overshit

What grim times we live in.

the game is free, so over all not that bad a system desu.

>>377106418
Game companies are getting too trigger happy when it comes to locking more and more content behind paywalls for MP focused games. They're slowly turning multiplayer games into mobile style nickel and diming, it honestly wouldn't surprise if they started restricting playtime per day as well and this whole "renting" shit would certainly fit the bill.

I'll never understand why people ride publisher's dick so hard. They literally are fucking you without eye contact.

>>377109554
some people like that

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>>377107880
>Fallout was ruined by Interplay

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>>377109684

>>377106418
Why not play the classic mode with no character abilities or whatever?

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>>377108075
>settlements and simulations are undoubtedly rpg mechanics.

I'm so lost the former is false while the latter can be true.

>>377109754
They havent confirmed if they will make it an official mode or just a server-list game niche mode without matchmaking

>>377109684
Hello, young 'un.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_Brotherhood_of_Steel
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_Brotherhood_of_Steel_2

As bad as FO3 is (and it is pretty bad), it's nowhere nearly as bad as those (well, that, FOBOS 2 never saw the light of day).

>really liked q3
>try it out
>lag, stuttering, rubberband with no fps drops


what the fuck is this shit

>>377109729
>>377109857

Different universe

Just gonna mention that renting a champion costs about 5000 currency, winning a match gets you about 1000 renown losing is about 800. Not to mention you get 3 dailies a day which are worth about 5000+ in and of itself.

In essence you could just rent 2 champions a day and be good, chances are you'll really only gravitate to one champ anyways.

>>377110156
>dailies

Nice MMO mechanics in Quake.

Will there be a physical release? I'd love a box of this

>>377108293
120fps on 1440p ultra here. i5 4670 non k, 1070 and 8gb ram. Maybe you shouldn't play new games on a shit rig. Mine is 3,5 years old and it does fine, all I did was upgrading gpu.

>>377110232
>WHY IS IT NEW
Seriously why the actual fuck you care about side shit like that when the core gameplay is as fine as ever?

Why are people saying you have to buy the characters?
I have them all permanently unlocked?

>>377108390
Also as of now you can rent characters for in game currency which is optainable by performing certain challenges in game, you get 3 challenges at a time and they rotate daily. So you can basically earn a character to rent for free as long as you do them.

>>377110446
The people shitposting in quake threads all day are all about 40-50 years old and hate CHANGE.

See /vr/'s doom general.

Old men on 4chan are pathetic cucks.

>>377110364
>120fps
>lying on the internet

>>377110459
>Why are people saying you have to buy the characters?
>I have them all permanently unlocked?

You don't if you didn't play early beta and just started.

>>377110459
The current beta has them all unlocked, previous builds you had to buy or rent them to replicate the F2P experience

>>377110535
>See /vr/'s doom general.
They don't even play Quake, aside from a handful of anons. It's some amazing form of autism where some of them literally don't play a single videogame other than fucking Doom, and try to make Doom more like other games just so they can say they're still playing Doom.

>>377110616
I'm using them as an example.
And yes they are pure autism, and have their very own moderator that will delete any nay saying about doom in the thread.

Its like fucking REDDIT: the general in there.
A pure hugbox for doom babbies

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>>377110715
>get into an argument with a doombabby about why quake is superior for both multi and singleplayer
>his argument boils down to "i can't kill everything with the super shotgun by sneezing on it"
>mfw all my posts get deleted

>>377110574
I'm so fucking afraid of them resetting the accounts again ;__;
After the first beta I lost my Ranger shit, at the second I lost my Visor shit, and now I have my waifu exactly like I want her.
Carmack pls don't destroy my quakefu ;__;

>>377108390
I have question: if I get free game and buy all heroes and gameplay-related stuff, do I spend less money than buying retail, same amount, or more?

>>377109853
Better be official the one thing I do not like is the "you can play it with your friends that counts" mode

if you want to play as anything other than Ranger you're a casual retarded piece of shit anyway

Ranger classic mode f2p all day every day

>>377106418
>or you can buy the game and get all characters

>>377111116
>I have question: if I get free game and buy all heroes and gameplay-related stuff, do I spend less money than buying retail, same amount, or more?

It's hard to say until the game is officially released, but If I had to guess you will save money in the long run by buying the whole game. Idk about cosmetics though, but I don't care anyway, maybe besides weapon skins.

>>377106418
A system a lot like that worked really well for Blacklight Retribution. Rent a bunch of gun parts for peanuts and make a profit within 20 minutes of playing. You get to try something different every time.

>>377111248
>Not playing Slash

It's like you hate fun

>>377110820
>mfw Quakefags are so obnoxious not even other retro FPS fans can tolerate them
Overwatch clone with lootboxes and pay-to-win characters is all you deserve.

>>377110820
>quake superior for single player
glad you got pruned desu

>>377113856
all wittle /vr/ le trooper is mad

>>377106418
MOBA TRASH SUCKS ASS

Characters drop in the loot boxes retards

>>377114513
>just grind heroes dude xd

Fucking underage b&

>>377114928
If you don't want to grind just buy it like you would any other game you retarded faggot

>>377112378
Seriously piss off bozo.

>>377115050
>f2p game
>j-just buy it

Off yourself, shill

>>377115810
>f2p
>have option to get characters for free
>hurr I don't want to grind
>have option to buy all the characters
>hurr I don't want to pay

Kys retard

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>hey fellow gamers, you could grind for 2 weeks before they nerf the characters in a month or buy the game and have all the characters but none of the cosmetics! and that includes all* future content, what a steal!
>*all but the inevitable expansion/big DLC with more (OP as fuck) characters
Gee, I wonder who's behinds these comments.

>>377116998
>buy the game and have all the characters but none of the cosmetics! and that includes all* future content, what a steal!
yeah that is a good deal actually

>>377117068
Quake 3 Arena, a game that I could mod, includes all the skins, and let he host servers is a good deal. This nu-Quake is a crappy pseudo F2P semitic scheme to scam the so called "gamers".

>>377106418
I was actually interested in playing until I heard about that character rental shit, fuck that.

>>377117397
Dumb goy, you can buy it and get almost all the content. Don't forget to pre-order or you'll miss some exclusive cosmetics!

>>377114084
you made a mistake there.
Ithink you meant to write 'little', but accidentally pressed on the 'w'-key instead of the 'l'-key.

please pay better attention next time :)

>>377117559
If I was going to buy it I'd buy a better game you shill. I was only interested in the F2P aspect and they shot themselves in the foot with character rentals.

>>377106851
no, but the HUD isn't obnoxious

>>377117397
You rent with only in-game currency. You pay real money for Champs and Cosmetics.

>>377117702
>I'd buy a better game
not memeing, what multiplayer PC only shooter is more worth your money? Do not post a "realistic" type of shooter like squad or rising storm

its surprising how quick shills jump on a thread about an upcoming game

>>377106851
this
it's shit

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>>377117228
Oh yeah, I remember Q3A being free.

AAAAA-AAAAA-AAAAA-AAAAA-AAAAA

>>377118334
Don't put worlds in my mouth. Confidentially, the "free" Quake 3 (live) was utter shit.

If I pay for a game, I want all the content, not a unmodable shit full of locked cosmetics. You can't defend this shit unless you are being paid for it, dude.

>>377118575
>worlds in my mouth
>Confidentially
Remember kids, don't post without your glasses.

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>>377118575
And if I pay for the game, I want the full source code and a blowjob from the developer. Can't have everything buddy.

>>377106418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Ikb6B55Qc
>Hypocritical purists...

>>377118862
>Listening to Totalshit about multiplayer games
Cmon buddy delete your post.

>>377119192
t. triggered quakefag

>>377118828
>going full retard
Anon please. All the content in the game (no unlocks), modding tools and the option to host my own sever were the norm 20 years ago, before the 90s kids started to gobble this jewish shit.

>>377120025
I have probably around 60 hours in the beta, I fucking love it. But I would never listen to any of his gameplay opinions because he's complete shit at multiplayer games.

>>377120218
What if there's more content hidden in the source code? Or in devs' cum? You never know. I'm fully entitled to it.

>>377120351
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, Anon.

Chances are that you could recover the "hidden" content via mods tho.

>>377120241
Most players are shit at games. And the top Quake players are generally positive about QC. The only butthurt people are the ones who played five minutes of Quake Live ten years ago and think that makes them elite gamers.

>>377114084
I post on /vr/ like twice a year.

Ironically, last time I posted there was about Quake, I asked some inane questions and got pretty helpful and polite answers.

The presentation is better than I thought it'd be.

Maybe this does have the potential to attract normies. That's all I want. A popular arena shooter.

this has been a thing forever with f2p games
QC is pretty shit though

>>377121285
>I want a popular arena shooter full of normies
Care what you wish.

>>377122919
huh?

>>377122919

>not wanting some Quake pubstomps

What's WRONG with you?

Is it true that Doomguy will be in there?

>>377123095
If the leak, that was right about the power-ups, is right, then yes.

Why do you care about renting characters? They drop from chests and iirc if char is recieved from chest it's permanent, not rent.

Also thank god they finally optimized the game. I can play it on my 7 yo toaster without lags now, but loading times are still super long.

>>377123072
>Quake
But that's what I want. A popular game among normies will be "Overwatch Champions: the neutered arena brawler".

>>377107742
D44m was great. Step outside fatty

>>377122919
>He wants the game to die in an instant
But that's bad, Anon. Dying isn't a good thing, contrary to popular belief.

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>it's not q3a so it's bad

>>377107742
>Doom
>ruined

new Doom is great

>>377123321
>unpopular things are dead
And this is why vidya is dead.

>>377123303
>Buzzwording this hard.
I'm guessing all the players of QC are a bunch of nu-male cucks?

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>>377107995
Except you're wrong.

Sorlag is a pretty strong character.

On top of being a tank with a huge amount of health and armor, the more she bunnyhops the faster she goes. A fucking TANKY SPEEDER, that is fucking ridiculous you nigger.

Her special isn't even that bad either. It's a great ability to deny people items by spraying areas with acid, and spraying spawn locations.

>>377123430
If you want to play something competitively, it isn't good for the game to turn into a circle-jerk for a small audience. Go be a hipster somewhere else.

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>>377106418
>netcode is so awful at least half of my hits don't register with 13ping

>>377123437
Yeah, the ones who gladly rent a negro to fuck their wife.

>>377107316
Your personal feelings towards the matter has no influence on actual financial viability of the system. Dota 2 is the only true F2P game and it can be the only true F2P game. What works in Dota 2 will not work in 99% of the other games. Quake doesn't have the community to self-sustain on skins alone and the ones that brand themselves as Quakefags don't give a shit about skins, so they buy the game instead. There's no reason to make both the F2P and paid versions of the game if both of them had all heroes available from the start. If it had F2P only version then then game would flop even more, because they are so fucking unsure of it they had to make 2 versions to begin with. The only faggot ass cancer they are doing are lootboxes in paid version, that's legit shit jewery.

>>377123537
Again, unpopular doesn't mean small nor niche, you fag.

I mean, it's a pretty good system with how easy it is to get in-game currency right now, while still allowing them to make money, I don't see the issue.

>>377106741
Either this is some tired bait or your 300lbs. Which is it?

>>377118862
asscancer is such a fucking hypocrite

>>377123716
>buy full game at full price
>skins are behind some gay and grindy F2P bullshit
>somehow this is a "pretty good system"
Do I really need to start with the food analogies?

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>>377106418
>mfw Bethesda turns out to be more Jewish than Blizzard when it comes to hero shooters.

>>377109445
>Most of you dumb fucks are complete shit at video games and so i'm not even surprised about the shitposting alongside the constant Overwatch, mobile and shitty anime games on this board.

Fucking savage

>>377106851
>he hasn't figured out how to force picmip
not gonna make it

>>377123939
Eevery single game has paid cosmetic DLC nowadays, you can complain about it, but being allowed to get it for free through lootboxes and crafting is actually better than most games.

This is literally like Overwatch, except you're not forced to pay to just try the game and the champions. It's literally better than Overwatch in every way.

>>377107319
The free version is a trial where you can only play one character... Except you can also unlock everything else without paying a dime, and I mean, unlock, since lootboxes can drop Champs

>>377124401
>every single game is shit nowadays, so is fine
welp
>>377124401
>This is literally like Overwatch
indeed.

You know, if you want Quake to be like hardcore shit like Quake 3 without any consequences, you have to prove that arenafags like you can be marketed to. There is a number of arena based shooters right now, none of them are populated. There's Quake Live, but it's semicomatose state. There's Quake 3 and modded Quake 3 after all, but none of the versions are literally dead. You know why Starcraft gets remastered? Because Koreans on FISH actually play it. You know why Quake is now on F2P deathbed with lootboxes and shit? That's because that's what sells. Arenafags don't buy, arenafags don't devote themselves to playing their favorite games, arenafags don't give a shit about their genre, they only care about crying on forums about how everyone abandoned them.

Arenafags are a blight of a community.

>>377106418
You forgot the most important part that this game showers you with rent currency...

>>377124681
You forgot the most important part, that I want to buy the game with all the content, not play a F2P game.

Lizard>Cyka Blyad>Nyx>Marine>Robot> shit> everyone else

>>377124793
Okay so buy the complete game...

>>377124574
The problem is some of you people are making it sound like the worst system ever, when it's better than most games

>OMG THIS RENT SYSTEM TOTALLY KILLS QUAKE
>THE ULTIMATE JEWING

Just get a grasp on reality.

>>377107742
this is the harsh truth bethesdrones can't handle

>>377124914
And I wont get all the skins. Also, quit whit the ellipses, you fucking redditor.

>>377124890
>Ranger
>Not top tier
His ability is so insanely powerful.

>>377106645
You should be able to buy full character for ingame money, not only renting them.
People fear these slippery slopes, and for good reason. Next thing, you wake up one day and you have to pay for bullets in an online shooter, and nobody will find it strange, you will only get brainwashed sheep like you asking questions like "How about you explain what the problem is instead of shouting into the void?".

>>377124930
Actually, the shitty state of the vidya industry happened due to conformist and coprophagous faggots like you. No thanks, I won't accept the current state now buy this gay abomination. Isn't like is going to last more than 3 months anyways.

>>377124087
Doesnt feel fair if I go to my drivers settings and force picmip. Just put it into the fucking game so I dont need to feel like a cheater.

>>377107880
Kill yourself on all 3 accounts. Fallout was ruining by Fargo for trying to switch Interplay into a console focused publisher, Doom 3 was very well received and is still being modded and played online to this day, and while Q4 had a rocky launch, Q4max fixes most of its issues and makes it a faster Quake 3.

>>377125203
They gave away all the characters for free last beta.

>Pay $59.99 plus tip for Quake Champions Overwatch
>Get all of the characters
>3 months later the Quake Champions Unleashed DLC is announced includes 3 super overpowered characters that crush every other
>$39.99 for the DLC, not included in original game purchase
lmao

>>377125227
Whoa dude, just do the daily quest with the melee weapon and buy some bullets.

>>377125019
Not the same guy, but he does it for a reason you fucking nigger, and it's called ellipsis.

It's fucking obvious, if you want all the content by the immediate, you purchase the game. It's that fucking simple to logic.

>>377125203
You can unlock characters from loot boxes, which can be purchsed with the in-game current. Basically giving you the character for free.

ITT: Retards who haven't played the game

>>377125348
meant for >>377125203

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>>377124654
The problem is that Quake is only enjoyable if you're good at it. Low TtK games and games where you don't have to be extremely-accurate sold well because anyone can get a bunch of kills regardless of their skill. That's how Call of Duty became so big after CoD4. While arenashooters have went the way of the dodo because there are easier alternative games to play online.
Let's be real here, the majority of possible players won't reach the top 10% of skill for Arena shooters, and will not enjoy getting the shit kicked out of them. They end up dropping it. So then all you have is an extremely-niche fanbase of players. You can cater towards them, but they won't keep a game afloat compared to hordes of casual players.

If I'm an uber casual scrub whom wants a nyx waifu to stare at when i die, I can drop merely $5 on currency to unlock her permanently.

If i want to try this out because I'm not a sheep and don't go on /v/ to ask inane questions, I can play and rent champions without spending a dime.

If I'm a hardcore arena fan and I want to be competitive like Johnathan Wendel, then I would need to pay $50 to get everything (and more for the Fata1ty branded nonsense).


The only people jewed out are possibly the hardcore arenafags and that is because they need to plop $50USD on this. But I consider that punishment for not actually buying arena games.

>>377107742
>we ruined Doom
Way less so than with the abomination that was Doom 3

>we are going to ruin Quake
Quake 4 wasn't particularly brilliant

>>377124945
Bethesdrone is related to games developed by Bethesda, being a drone or a shill for a publisher doesn't make sense.

>>377125379
>It's fucking obvious, if you want all the content by the immediate, you purchase the game
Except you don't get it, that's why I don't like it, you double idiot.

>>377109684
Name?

>>377125019
The ellipsis were needed to show everyone how much of a faggot you are.
>WAAH MAMA I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME TO UNLOCK THE QUAKE 1 ROCKET LAUNCHER IT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO ME FROM THE START!!!

>>377125514
>being a drone or a shill for a publisher doesn't make sense
Yet here we are in a thread full of rabid Bethesdrones that will defend any turd as long as it has the bethesda name attached

>>377106418
doesn't matter mid weights are the best and you start with one of the best

>>377125227
Yeah, it's totally my fault, I made DLCs ubiquitous by literally never buying a single DLC in my entire life. You know nothing about me.

You should complain when a system is actually bad, not when it's better than most games, but still not perfect for you, which is probably just getting everything for free without doing anything, that won't happen buddy.

Also nice job not even responding to anything in my post you fucking inbred moron.

>>377125429
Damn right I haven't played the game, and I have no intention to ever touch it.
I can still be disgusted that people are allowed to rape and reduce one of my favorite franchises to this state, and we have an army of young people who grew up in the f2p environment who enable and actually defend this shit.

>>377125548
Skins are for unlocking like every game out there. Buying it grants you all the characters. Why are you so fucking stupid, shitposter-kun?

Don't give a shit about the game until they fixed the terrible optimization and bugs like rocket delay.

Quake experience is supposed to be SMOOTH, this game is the direct opposite of SMOOTH.

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>>377125203
Looks like someone hasn't permanently unlocked champions by playing the game naturally and felt the need to bait for a lot of (you)s. Sucks to be a retard.

>>377125731
I bet you can't even b2r

>>377125646
>buy game
>don't get all the content
>"holly shit anon, you really expected all the content in in a game, get with the times"
Protip: only the faggots use ellipsis.
>>377125769
>"whoa, you expected a full game after paying full price, what a shitposter!"
ebin

>>377125724
>nice job not even responding to anything in my post you fucking inbred moron.
But I literally replied to your "I love being jewed" post, you retarded shill.

>>377125915
That is the full game with unlockables. This has been the standard since at least the early 90s.

>full price
They haven't announced the price yet; could be $40 for all we know.

>>377125915
You are a faggot if you think you're entitled to cosmetic Quake II railgun before even playing a match. People got so bored complaining about things so they have to make up some other shit.

>neo /v/ defends bethesda shit
I want out
you fags aren't even old enough to have played q3 when it was popular.

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People who actually believe the renting system is going to implemented the same upon release and it's going to be that simple to rent characters where you can unlock everyone in a single day are fucking naive and retarded. Want to know another game who had the same kind of system like Quake Champions and changed during later patches and releases? Paladins. Used to be that you can buy and unlock characters with in-game currency after 5 or so matches. Later they released a patch that gives such a low amount of gold that it's almost to the point grindy, screwing over new players who are just getting into the game and want to play new heroes.

The reason why the renting system is the way it is now is because in the beta you're only given 4 days at a time to play, and quick currency is to ensure you'll continue in the beta and have the chance to play all the characters until shutdown. There is no way it's going to be that fucking easy faggot... they want you to spend those 60 dollars.

You'll complain about the F2P system eventually, you'll see.

>>377126163
id, retard, not Bethesda.

>>377125450
Yes, skill ceiling is an eternal dilemma when it comes to designing a competetive game.

If it's too high, most people will be discouraged of playing it because more skilled players will dominate newcomers. (fighting games, old school arena shooters)

If it's low, you will have a much higher user base, because people will not be alienated, they still feel that they stand a chance against more skilled players. On the other hand, you will have pros complaining that it's not worth trying to get really good in the game when John Nobody could easily take them down regardless if things go their way.

You can't win here, and since esport is a business, they will go for low skill ceiling because businesses will want the market with the higher user base. See lol, heroes of the strom, overwatch, dota to a lesser extent

>>377126095
>This has been the standard since at least the early 90s
Yeah dude, I totally remember unlocking all the skins in Quake 1 to 3.

>>377126119
Don't worry, I won't play a single match.

>>377125450
but lets have a hypothetical situation where a pure arena shooter is released by a major published. it will get players no matter how hard it is. and bad players will be able to play with other bad players no matter how bad they are.

like what does it matter if the game is hard? its all about who you play against.

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>mfw got all the characters unlocked because I'm beta-testing since day one

thanks Todd

>>377126170
Except they unlock every character for beta so yeah.

>>377126217
go be a fucking mongoloid somewhere else and dont reply to me or my posts ever again.

>>377126268
>what are fighting games

>>377106739
Dota 2 was pay to play at the start, but since it was failing badly Valve distributed a shit ton of free copies.

>>377125890
>you can see the outlines of slash's tummy even in a tiny lil screenshot like that
fucking fantastic, man

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>>377126278
>mfw this guy thinks that bethesda will allow him to keep them on the release

they also just reseted all the stats but yea I see you didnt actually play in the beta

>>377126323
Shut the fuck up, you dumb bitch. I swear to fucking god i'll smash your teeth onto the pavement if you EVER speak to me like that again you big stinky smelly faggot.

>>377126323
Only if you promise to kill yourself first.

>>377126370
A genre you didn't played during the "early 90s".

>>377126268
Good riddance, I don't need reddit players like you throwing a match and then spam the same crybaby pasta

>>377126423
its called closed beta you nig g e r

>>377126170
True, but:
1. Default f2p character - Ranger is top tier. So you can spend 0 $ and still dominate the game.
2. I doubt that i'll cost 60 $. 30-35 is the price, i'm sure. They need to compete with other big b2p shooters: OW and CSGO, and they are both cheap

>>377106418
You Can choose to buy It or play it for free, Just stop being such a fag and have some Classic Arena vibe experience idiot

>>377126018
Literally 3 posts in a row without a single argument, let's see if you can make it 4.

>>377126497
>a quake fan who doesn't want to be jewed must be a redditor
At least now we know that you are a literal shill.

>>377106739
>good
>esport
>dota2
bwahahahahahahhahahhaha

>>377126423
Not really, there was a way to buy acces to the beta if you wanted to get in early that bad. Once the game went live, and access was no longer granted in waves, the pay option disappeared. It was never planned to be pay to play.

>>377126370
>buy street fighter for my mega drive
>during character selection each button is one skin/recolor
It used to work like that, ask your dad if you want to know more about the 90s.

>>377126672
>Quake """"fan""""
Easy to spot the ones who need to flash their fake credentials

>>377126448
i know you don't keep anything from the beta ^^

>>377126919
So many Quake fans but so little of them play Quake Live, whats going on?

>>377126919
Guess for you the "real fans" are only the ones who pre-order the "Quake Champions fan edition", right shill?

>>377127023
>quake fans
>quake live

>>377126846
reskin/recolor a sprite = 10min developing time
reskin/recolor a 3d model = 1-2 months/weeks depend on the number of animators/modelers on the developer team

>>377127141
And how's that related to being absolutely wrong about the 90s?

>>377127023
i still play but preffer q3 over ql

>>377127141
Isn't that the other way around? I'm only talking about reskinning, recolor doesn't take more then 1,5 minutes regardless, you are retarded.

>>377127023
You mean when they tried to jew the Quake fans into some pseudo F2P game and they refused to play it so it flopped? Guess you can relate that to QC, LAMO

>>377127132
There's absolutely nothing to preorder or pay for. I was skeptical at first but unlike you I actually play it instead of shitposting for (you)s. What I gathered first hand is that the game floods you with currency, but just playing casually got me two champions permanently unlocked. $0 spent and will stay this way after release. You see one of us has the facts and experience and the other is making up whatever they think.

>>377106739
>Good "esports" games
>posts an image of dota 2
but dota 2 is shit anon. kinda of like when your mom took a shit and now she has to put up with you

>>377127141
Recoloring a texture takes less than a minute.

>>377126692
>>377127567
Rude guys, the Paralympics are Olympics too.

>>377127237
Quake Live is pretty much a straight upgrade from vq3.

>>377127141
>3D models take more effort that 2D sprites
Neo-neo-/v/ everybody.

>>377127141
>being this clueless and misinformed
Reskinning a 3d model doesn't take months or even weeks, you retard, even if you account for the most anal QA in existence.

>>377106418
>caps
EAT SHIT AND DIE, NIGGER

>muh characters
Why are you so ass-blasted about skins? I am yet to see a single argument not made from faggy Habbo standpoint.

>>377127889
Characters and skins are not the same thing, moron.

>>377127889
>skins
Uhhhh

>>377127730
I've had someone try to argue the talking heads and clay models for Fallout 1 and 2 they animated by hand were easier to do than the gamebryo abominations in New Vegas because it was 3D. People seriously overestimate the work for this stuff.

First beta they had some insane drop rates. I had all non-tank champs after 4 hours of playing. Right now I don't think you can even get in-game currency at all.

>>377112378
post slash booty webms please

TB video makes the game look so bad even though he's trying his best to shill it hard lol

>>377128306
Sucks he so fucking garbage at the game. It could've been a good video.

>>377122919
If you don't want a popular game go and play Quake Live.

>>377128448
Yeah it could have been a good video if he covered a good game instead of P2W cashgrab shit from Cuckseda

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>>377107880
>fallout 4 at least innovated a lot of mechanics for an rpg
>Literally the opposite is true.

Only the dead can know peace from the degenerative retardation that is Anon's shit opinions.

>>377126170
>High-rez being shit
also the sky is blue

>>377128590
>I speak in memes
Haha cuck! Epic shitpost my *****BURPPPP*** Fellow friend!

>>377113985
He's right though. Quake is a a much better SP game.
but quake 2 is still the best online game

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>>377123571

>>377128949
what the fuck?

>>377125450
This is 100% true. People don't play games to git gud people play them to enjoy themselves. When you have bad matchmaking a very low ttk and difficult mechanics people will fuck off in droves to other games if this one is free.

>>377129130
just shit netcode, one can only hope it's just because of beta servers but i'm not too optimistic. I had 30 ping in that webm

>>377129556
Worth mentioning the ping meter is completely fucked and reports different pings for everyone. It was telling me I had 50 ping in european servers when I live in US West.

>>377129556
Has there been any statement on a server browser? Or if you will be able to have your own server?

>>377128306
He sold me it by telling me I can just buy the game and all its future characters for a box price


Seriously why hasnt Bethesda advertise that more?

>UT is so much better
>it's actually free
>it's fucking dead because Epic games is retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNE1XN6E1Cc

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>you can only rent cosmetics for real money

>>377129754
because it isn't true
>buy league of legends character pack and you get every champion ever!!
people soon forgot about that lol

or you can buy they game and get them all

>>377129556
The netcode doesn't even include projectiles at all, that's why rockets are so bad.

>>377129815

How do you not even have the sense to put it on steam in 20-fucking-17?

>>377129979
That literally never happened, I was playing LoL in beta, the only character pack in LoL didn't even have all the currently released champions.

>>377129815
I played UT4 way before QC, just wanted to put that out there to not upset the balance. I really, REALLY wish UT4 advocates realize marketing isn't even the first issue. Something tells me they honestly think UT4 is the way it is only because nobody knows about it.

>>377130206
$0.01 deposited to your Bethesda wallet.

>>377130206
>>377129979
Why am I reading about warcraft 3 mod defence of the ancients rip offs in an FPS thread???
Kids Quake 3 is still around.... old that it is.
QC from what I played is slower. And it feels clumsy at best. Stick with your ":MOBA:" games and stay away from this cream pile of you know what.

Q3 and UT 2004 are still here.

>>377129979
While I still dont trust Todd and ID, comparing them to Tencent is stretching it

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>>377130494
Because they were talking about business models and not gameplay

Read next time

>>377130553
>see that mountain? you can climb it
>see that settlement? you can build it
>see that DLC champion? you can get it included in the original purchase

Don't fall for his lies

>>377130371
The fuck? I'm a shill for calling out your obvious lie? Just stop lying you retard

>>377130752
nice childish retorts you sure showed me

>>377106497
>being this brainlet
they cant just give the game away for free can they? there arent enought characters like MOBAs that can make you get the character forever, so you either buy the game or rent with in-game currency, i dont see the problem you shit eating trap lover

>>377130939
I like that you didn't even try to pretend you weren't making stuff up, I wonder how much they pay you to make QC look worse than it is.

>>377106418
the amount needed can be earned inb like 15 minutes

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yup deleted it right then as well.
wish they would make a real shooter.
go back to your roots , you waz the king .
now your just, just.

>>377130285
>marketing
and distribution. these are the two primary reasons, along with the third being that it's not fucking finished

The real question is, will it die faster than quake live did?

>instead of fixing the terrible delay and netcode they are trying the cashshop system
Nice priorities.

>>377131263
I don't need to pretend because I am an adult, unlike you. Is viral marketing your first job, kid?

>>377129979
Except it is, it has been said over and over since they explained how their model works.

>>377131537
Okay because if I were you I'd switch the priority of marketing and a promising/finished product around. UT4 looks like a UE4 mod where as QC looks like a game and a product, regardless if certain decisions of QC spark debates. I'll definitely take F2P-B2P-inferior-Quake 3.5 over whatever UT4 even is.

>>377131882
Can you prove they won't release additional champions that aren't included in the original purchase? That's a bold claim dude, only a bethesda employee (viral marketer) would have that kind of info

>>377132083
Just read any fucking interview with willits you mouthbreathing moronic shitposter.

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>>377131882
>todd won't lie to me

>>377106418
Oh it's worse than team fortress: quake! Awesome. Front row seats for the biggest flop of 2010's?

>>377132192
MMMM yeah why would he lie? Based Bethesbros aren't interested in money, all they want is to make the perfect FPS LMAO

>>377131536
Is this reddit speak?

>>377132317
>biggest flop of 2010's
Class based FPSs with skills straight from ASSFAGGOTS are the new fad, so guess that, with enough marketing, they'll make some money out of it. Be ready for hourly QC threads 2 weeks before the release day.

>>377132375
>rebbit
DUDE THIS ISN'T QUAKE LIVE IT'S SHIT FUCK BETHESDA FOREVER WAHHHH
>4chan
thank fucking christ there's a shooter on the market that's free and PC centric. if they fix the netcode it will be really great. even all the pros like it.

>>377132794
unlike you faggots I hide the shill threads, so enjoy your triggering

>>377132893
>I hide the shill threads
Joke's on you, you are posting in one.

>>377106418
literally we don't value your time at all: the game

>pay $50 and just get everything

and whats the problem? tribes would have survived if it had this option.

>>377133303
>he thinks this is a shill thread
Does your middle school know you're posting here?

>>377130680
>>377131537

Talking about business models???

Why in the hell would you people do that?
Go and play some games guys and stop talking shit.

Bethesda is the new EA. ID is DEAD!

>>377133398
>and whats the problem?
That you don't get everything, you get everything*.

>>377125203
>having to buy a game is being a sheep
I like how you offer no reason for why his system is bad or what the alternative is.
>bu-but it'll lead to X
Great, what about this system is bad? If your response to other people explaining why the system is fine is to scream sheep or shill over and over again, you look like the sheep. Grow an opinion

>>377133590
and what aren't you getting?

>>377133796
Almost nothing. But is good because Todd told us that you may get some stuff in the future.

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>>377106418
>he plays Quake for the characters

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>>377134207
>implying quake doesn't have top tier waifu bait

>>377134207
>not annoying everybody with based orbb
Scrubs can't into force models.

>>377108075
>settlements and simulations are undoubtedly rpg mechanics.

LMFAO i hope you're trolling

>>377132839
What are you saying? You don't seem very smart

>>377110232
Why would something like dailies be an issue? They're just further incentive to play the game more and have something to work towards each day. Be MVP 3 times, get first blood 2 matches, get 10 double kills. Like why do you care that there is a goal to do this shit? It only becomes distracting if the dailies are all shared by everyone and is shit like "play this many games as this champ" cause then you see everyone play the same guy that day. But it aint, it's mostly just general shit you can achieve just be playing the game normally.

>>377136930
>incentive to play the game
Back in Quake 3 times people used to play because it was fun. But you 90s kids love to do daily chores to get some bethesdabucks and rent the next OP character.

>>377131080
the shilling is real

>>377137117
Kill yourself old fag. Things change. If you can't enjoy a game just because it has dailies and those aren't "oldschool" then really stop by the rope store, and don't forget to stop by the rickety stool store on the way back. Your life obviously must suck because you're so adamant about living in the past.

>>377137696
Jokes on you, in 12 months I could keep play Quake 3 but your QC servers will be shut down and your "progress" lost forever. LMAO what a cuck!

if you don't play slipgate ranger you're an enemy of mankind

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>>377126692
>>good
>>esport
>>dota2
>bwahahahahahahhahahhaha

?

>no dedicated servers
>no classic mode
>have to unlock characters

haha, next game

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>>377127461
>but dota 2 is shit anon. kinda of like when your mom took a shit and now she has to put up with you

You are the one who's shit, anon.

>>377138190
>>377138318
>game so bad that they need to pay literal millions to the "pros" to play it
Nice game dotard.

Most the dumbfags in this thread saw that you could rent characters for a day and immediately turned the game off to come here and complain.

It takes about 4-5 games to rent a character. Conversely, doing 2-3 dailies will get you enough to rent as well. Plus you start with enough to rent 2 of them.

The business model is super generous and I don't even get why you would buy any character if you could just rent them so easily. Not to mention you'll probably just rent each one to try them, and then stick to playing the 1 or 2 that you like. I don't really get the hate for f2p when it's done well enough like this. The player base would be super small for a new arena shooter like quake if it wasn't f2p and it'd die out super quick.

On one side you have oldfags, who will hate any new quake. On the other side you have newfags who aren't gonna pay 50 bucks for an oldschool arena shooter.

>>377138487
The other ASSFAGGOTS have free hero rotations, way better than renting", you shill.

>>377138487
>On one side you have oldfags, who will hate any new quake.
It's not even a quake game. It's overwatch with a touch of "mature games for mature gamers such as myself".

>>377137963
I wouldn't really care, not like I spent any money. And like I said there really is no real "progress" outside of just getting better and getting dumb cosmetics.

Also I doubt this game will die that fast.

>>377138724
>I doubt this game will die that fast
The "FPS for players that doesn't like FPSs" is already covered by Overwatch and Paladin. This is literally Battleborn Champions: Shit netcode edition.

>>377138645
Overwatch is gonna be the next souls I guess. Everyone just comparing whatever the fuck they want to it.

It's still quake, it just has special abilities. It's not like it's teambased, or class based.

Like I said, the oldfags won't buy ANYTHING unless it's a carbon copy of old quake even then they'd find a way to hate it. So ofcourse they're gonna make it appeal to newfags. But even then it's still a really fun game, and is definitely still quake.

>Make super fast small ass hitbox players
>Make it so you have to zoom with the railgun just to hope to kill them in one hit, killing your own mobility

Welp, shit game confirmed.

>>377139128
>It's not like it's teambased, or class based.
Are you legally retarded?

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>>377126423

>at the start
>beta

>>377139168
Get with le times gramps, FPS are all about quickscoping and dubstep.

>Make game character/class based
>Decide it should, for whatever reason, be a quake game
>It's no longer a level playing field to accurately gauge skill at the game

Wow, so that's the power of gaming in 2017.
More and more "equalizer" meta-game systems to make shit-eating scrubs feel good. Nice, real nice. Good game.

>>377139519
>make the [current year] fad memegame
>notice you own some related IP
>try to get some nostalgia bucks

>>377125276
Not everyone played the beta, your excuse is invalid.

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>>377121285
>Maybe this does have the potential to attract normies. That's all I want. A popular arena shooter.
>Quake
>2017
>attract normies

HAHAHAHAHA (NO).
They want Battleground, they want Call of Duty, Battlefiend, Counter Strike and other """realistic""" garbage, not the fast paced Quake with pretty complex mechanics where you actually have to think, count mega / armor / quad (if TDM), etc.

And it has no anime / disney style with BOOTY WAIFUS XD like Overwatch.

Nah, it's not gonna work.
Quake worked back then in 1990-2005 but it died eventually. And you can't resurrect it with shitty paywalls, shitty skins and shitty skill abilities. It's nothing like Overwatch so you can't really attract that part of the player base either.

Quake is simply TOO HARDCORE game for nu-gamers.

>>377140038
>Whyfoo faggotry
>Normies

How full blown retarded are you, weeaboo?

>>377106418
The thing is the renting is very cheap as you can easily get enough ingame currency in only a handful of games to rent 3 characters

>>377140127
>MUH THICC ASS MERCY AND THAT BRIT LESBIAN

What is "ironic weebs", newfag?
Every fucking normie is aware of what waifu means nowadays.

It's a free to play game dips, you pay like 20 bucks or something to get all current and future characters.
>Good esports games lets you play all characters
League of Legends is the top esport and doesn't even have an option to use 20 or so bucks for all current and future champs.
It's like everytime someone has to spend money they become a poorfag and complain about all things not being free.

>>377140729
>What is ironic weebs
Something that weeaboos made up to call more vocal weeaboos. They say the exact same shit as you, but now that you can see how others react you try and act like you're different. Reality is, you're just trying to ignore how society really sees you pathetic permavirgin faggots.

You're both weeaboos, and there's nothing normal about that.

>>377141145
If you'd read the thread you would have noticed that we're past that.

>>377141145
>being a good goy is cool
>lel is the top esport
>I didn't even read the thread, lol
Guess you are the QC audience.

Do rockets feel broken to anyone else? It's like there's a fucking delay to them firing, it's terrible.

>>377141940
>like

>>377139203
I've thrown about 30 hours in the beta and the game is not supportive of team based gameplay at all, Duel and Deathmatch are clearly what the maps were designed for and are 10 times more fun and usually have more people playing

>>377142135
>Duel
>Character based

That's the dumbest FUCKING idea I've ever heard.

>>377139203
It isnt. Each person has a special ability. But it is still about personal skill not about teamplay. I mean would you say Twisted metal is class based or team based? No, well that's pretty much what this is. It's quake mixed with twisted metal more than anything else.

>>377142273
I'm not particularly in favor of characters -In fact, I'll prolly spend most of my gametime in classic mode- but it isn't THAT bad.

I mean yeah it'd be better without them, but as a separated Duel mode it's not that bad an idea, adds a little mroe strategy based around the character's abilities