Reminder that Defias were the good guys and you just murdered

>>377096826
DID NOTHING WRONGS.

THE NOBLES WERE DICKS.

HUH

>don't get paid
>riot, kill the Queen
>become criminal organization preying on the common folk of the provinces
>restore old Horde Juggernaut in plan to bombard Stormwind to rubble, doubtlessly killing many more common folk in the process

Seems reasonable. I mean, it's not like killing or harassing the Nobles would accomplish anything so just kill some peasants to make a point

>>377096826
>"wuuuuh you guys didn't pay for our work!!!"
>kills Varian's wife with a brick to the head

Yeah no they fucked up hard.

>>377096826
LAPDOGS, ALL OF YOU

I'm still confused as to why they didn't get paid.

Guess Wrynn needed cash for statues.

>>377097686
DON'T QUESTION EL PRESIDENTE.

>>377097686
Onyxia 'convinced' the House of Nobles not to pay up

>>377097686
Onyxia, as always Dragons are the reason for the fuckery

The Real Enemy are the Dragons

>>377097635
>hire mercs and plant shredders to take terrorize farmers
DINDU

>>377097840

FUCK DRAGONS

>>377097635
it wasn't a brick, it was a fucking pebble

>>377097762
>>377097840
Was this always the reason, or did they retcon it so that Onyxia was mind controlling both sides from the beginning?

I feel it would have been a better story if the Stonemasons had been legitimately screwed by Stormwind but then went too far for revenge.

>>377097897
... would fuck Onyxia

>>377097982
Onyxia used to stand around in Stormwind as Lady Katrina Prestor when Varian was "missing", she's always been the one behind it

>>377097997
Your frail mortal body is no match for her cavernous draconic vagina

>>377097982
It's always been the case.
It was actually retconned that the Stonemasons decided to be unreasonable cunts and demand to be paid more than the agreed upon price once the work was done, though. Also because of manipulation from Onyxia

>>377097686

Literally a plot by Onyxia to weaken Stormwind when Deathwing rises for the Hour of Twilight. That's it.

>>377096826
>kill the queen
>harrass farmers just trying to live
To be fair, they wouldn't have been able to kill the queen without Onyxia.
But why the fuck did they attack ordinary farmers? People just trying to earn an honest living?

>>377098718
Pretty sure she was doing it on Nefarian's orders because he was the big bad Black Dragon at time and he had his orcs preparing to invade Stormwind via Redridge

>>377098474
I might stand a chance in humanoid form

where can I read all the warcraft lore?

>>377098598
>and demand to be paid more than the agreed upon price once the work was done, though.

Around the same time they started to put more lunatic anti-union rhetoric into the game through quests and other things.

>>377099359
Wowwiki / wowpedia
Hayven Games on youtube also used to make some decent lore videoes

>>377099718
Oh this ought to be fun. Please, tell us more

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>>377097840
This. Extermination of the draconids when? All colors are the enemy. They're the real jews of Warcraft.

>The evil guys are always cooler
>You are always forced to kill them
>You will never have the chance to be a villain
>You must always be the hero

I'm so sick of this.

I wanted to join the Shadow Council and tear azeroth apart with my nigga Gul'dan.

But i was forced to kill him instead.

>>377101781
>get mercilessly crushed by other heros who didn't cave in
>get farmed daily

>>377098884
To starve out Stormwind and force the nobles to back down by inciting unrest.
Stormwind used to have a whole bunch of elderly, crazy, orphaned or wounded wandering around as beggars to show how shitty the situation outside the walls had become. Too bad they stopped trying to build a world and opted for building a theklme park instead.

>>377102084
Thank god for HoTs
Atleast there i can shit all over illidan as him.

Every time i kill someone playing illidan i smile.


Still salty that he died in WoW.
Imagine if he lived , betrayed the legion and created the third faction.

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>stormwind abandons everyone that was left homeless by Deathwing
>rally them under the new defias and give them hope for a brighter future
>assassins that decapitated papa show up again
>fake death
>6 years later forced to serve as the bodyguard for one of them

Vancleef suffering never ends

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Im reading the Warcraft Chronicles vol. 2 book here and it feels like Blizzard went nuts with the timelines. So there is a timeline for original warcraft thats also warcraft chronicles that goes up to present day, then there is WoD timeline and then the Warcraft movie plus the prequel book has been doing its own thing. What is even going on

>>377102634
>brighter future
>of robbing farmers

>>377096826
This is what Nazi's actually believe

>Let a black dragon convince you to demand a gazillion gold
>Get mad when the nobles refuse
>Varian offers to pay the original price out of his own coffers
>Riot anyway
>Kill the queen
>Become bandits
>Start planning to slaughter everyone in Stormwind

Seems reasonable.

Reminder that it doesn't matter whether the Defias were right or wrong because Blizzard's clusterfuck lore will change it as suits their needs.

>>377102690
Talentless hacks without firm consistent management or an overarcing vision.

>>377097840
Fucking (((Dragons))) need to be gassed.

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>>377100189
>>377103081
>malygos went crazy™, killed
>deathwing corrupted™, killed
>ysera corrupted™, killed
>nozdormu eventually goes crazy™ at some point in the future, gets killed by adventurers in an alternate future
>death knights currently in the process of terrorizing red drakes

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>>377102634
Stupid useless rogue, only good for sex appeal.

>>377102412
That would be too complicated for the wow devs though.
The shadow council faction would be cool though.

>there are people playing RIGHT NOW who haven't done the original Deadmines

>>377096826
They were basically commies, huh?

>>377103301
I thought thats what bodyguards are for

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>>377103138
>keep corrupting people to serve as bosses and villains for pve
>at the same time keep inventing hamfisted moronic reasons for the fractions to still be fighting during potentially world ending events to justify pvp
Man if only there wasn't that rule that prevented pve from being about the war between the two fractions. Oh well, what are the writers to do.

>>377103395
Honestly, getting as horde on a pvp server was far more memorable then the dungeon itself.

>>377103395
>there people playing RIGHT now who haven`t done the original deadmines as horde players.

>>377103303
My idea is that it would work sorta like a "Neutral" PvP faction that level capped players could join.

Allowing players to kill members from their own faction etc.

>>377103717
>implying it's about the writers rather than requiring the skeleton crew of interns in charge of doing the minimum possible to keep the game running to do double the content for a single tier because it's nonsensical to besiege your own faction unless it's some retarded infighting (see: siege of orgrimmar)

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>jump down
>hunter/warlock didnt dismiss pet

>>377104076
From what experience I have playing games with three fraction combat, that sounds like an awful idea. A lot of people are literally too stupid for target priority and will just go for the nearest enemy they see.

This is our town, scrub

>>377104568
>Being able to PK faggots from your own faction at will

Sounds pretty fun to me.

It wouldn't work for pve servers tho, so i guess they would need to throw in some pve dailes or something.

Is it bad I unironically want bliz to revamp old vanilla dungeons. With actual mechanics

Defias is like mixing black lives matter with /antifa/

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>>377105042
i remember when they did that to scarlet monastery, BFD, RFK, RFD, scholomance, upper blackrock spire, deadmines, shadowfang keep, wailing caverns, ragefire chasm, stockades and sunken temple

ruining every. single. one of them.

>>377104568
Actually, cmon man.

Imagine the Shadow council raids in the cities

>Alliance members go in first, set shit up
>Start killing everyone
>Guards turn on them
>Horde members that were outside jump in too

>Loyal Alliance/Horde members getting BTFO

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HUH

>>377096826
No they got fucked over by a dragon

>>377097897
GLADLY

>>377099718
>put more lunatic anti-union rhetoric

OY VEY I love the Alliance now

>>377097982
>Was this always the reason
The reason wasn't given, until people asked for one, and then Onyxia was invented to be the reason.

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Could you enchant this? I can't remember.

>>377103301
>>377102634
How could a man with such classy fashion sense have a half naked slut for a daughter. He must be spinning in his grave.

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>>377106073
>make engi head around 150engi lvl
>find the right Arcanum tomb on AH
>farm quest roots and shit
>enchant level 60 ZG enchant on a 150engi head
>go into BG as a level 19 twink with tripple the health
>find out you can enchant pants with the letherworking from litchking early on
>make a premade with 2 friends with the same enchants and the best blue/rare stuff

>>377106932
this was the fucking best especially when they introduced the trial up to lvl 20
10-19 bgs were fast queues and full of noobs to slaughter
good times

>>377106747
She watched her dad get decapitated when she was like 7 and then raised by some random farmers.

>>377107392
>and then raised by some random farmers
Which no doubt got robbed when she resurrected the Defias

Twilight's Hammer lore is obvious freemason allegories, the WC3 cutscene where the king dies to the 3 men, it's their 'hiram abiff' story
Mike Morhaime is a member of the 'triangle' secret society

>>377105469
fuck this guy

>>377107392
And somehow that farmgirl youth turned her into le epic poison master that we desperately need in the fight against the Legion.

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>>377105469
>you start hearing them in stereo

>>377107506
You are so wrong

She killed him

>>377098598
>retconning the defias to be the villains

oh blizzard

>>377108704
They always were the villains you fucking retard. The moment they started stealing from the farmers and citizens of Westfall and Elwynn

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>>377103732
>there are people playing RIGHT now who haven't done the original Ragefire Chasm as low level alliance players

>>377110596
was a pain to run to the place, WC and RFK was fine as you often didnt get ganked by horde on the way