Saw Dragons Dogma on steam the other day and was wondering if

>>377081424
better than skyrim

It's not bad.

Great hackin and slashin and it does magic better than any game of it's kind.

traveling is kinda weird though.

>>377081424
Literally my favourite game.
To each their own though, so who knows if you'll like it.

>>377081621
What is so good about it?

>>377081424
Lost count of how many times I played through this game, especially Dark Arisen, which adds a much-needed challenge to late-game. I legit give this game a 10/10. Absolutely fantastic and only contrarian faggots think otherwise.

Has anyone tried Dragon's dogma online? Is it worth it?

>>377081552
Whats weird about the travel?

IT SUCKS

I MEAN ITS GOOD

I MEAN IT SUCKS

I MEAN ITS GOOD

>>377081424
It's shit. It boggles my mind how anyone could enjoy it.

>>377081552
>it does magic better than any game of it's kind.
yea man holding x sure is engaging magic combat

>>377081738
co-signing this, my exact experience as well, replayed tons of times, got lost in the world for hours on end, feels like a real fuckin adventure, great atmosphere and music, godlike boss battles 10/10 cum again

>>377081897

press the x x x and yhte y y y

you will be sucked

>>377081854
Whats so bad about it?

>>377081723
Combat is fun and exciting, somehow manages to not get old despite how much you do it, especially against larger monsters. It's like a combination of (watered down) DMC meets Monster Hunter. Lots of classes to pick from to suit pretty much any play-style. Spells are kind of a pain in the ass, especially the higher level ones, due to casting times and such. But making/hiring pawns is great fun. Plus the social aspects, while a little iffy (you build social rank by talking to, gifting and aiding NPCs, so be wary of accidentally starting a romantic storyline with merchants etc. Thankfully there's a gift you can give them that reduces their social rank to minimum), is there for people who wanna have a waifu/husbando. Character creator is pretty well done for such a big game. Not amazing or anything, but better than some MMOs I've seen at least.

>>377081424

do you like garbage hack n slash spin around suspended in mid air Sword Art Online tier anime garbage combat? well have i got a game recommendation for you

>>377081854
have you considered the possibility that youre wrong?

probably not

its mediocre
it also has rabid fanbase that overlooks its flaws for some reason

>>377081424
Great game. Legit 10/10 after expansion.

>>377081723
DMC Souls crossover IMO.

>>377081424
I would say it's absolutely worth playing. However, you might struggle to get through the first 1-2 hours of the game. There is a pretty bad escort quest that you need to do in order to progress the story and it's pretty aggravating

Don't do your first playthrough on the hardest difficulty, it's basically intended for level 25+

The game's godawful. It's not very intuitive for the kind of open world it sets up, while the gameplay itself gets pretty dull by mid-game due to special move spam. Not to mention just how fucking boring the game world, its characters, and its setting are. People often like to dick ride the magic system because some of the moves do look cool, but it's the same old shitty video game magic where everything's just a nuke instead of more creative magical abilities.

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It's fun
Some of the stories are pretty neat
The final boss is fantastic, and so is the story and writing to go along with him

But there's a fair bit of walking and exploring in the early game, the last introduction mission is annoying and your character feels a bit barebones to start off with, until you level up and unlock new abilities and stuff. That throws a lot of people off in the first few hours

>>377082464
Same with the DLC Island. That shit's not for first playthroughs. Wait until you've beaten the game at least once (the game has a NG+ feature ala Dark Souls) to go there, or at least when you intend to get far. That place will fuck you up and normal ass enemies make late game bosses look like chump change.

The only, ONLY gripe I have about DD Dark Arisen is that they get rid of the GOAT opening theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZNbabKjKpA

>>377082831
I think it was some kind of licensing issue, they couldn't get hold of the record company or whatever for the expansion so they dropped it

>>377081424
It's the game that made me realize that a story driven MH would be fucking retarded. I want to kill giant things not be a fucking errand boy killing things that have no chance of doing anything to me.

As a general rule: anyone who tells you the pawn AI is stupid is a sign that they are shit at the game.

THE WIND IS PUSHING IN MY AUGHT

>>377083392
>Go into the pawns dungeon thing in the castle town
>Activate some portal or some shit, suddenly a million tentacles everywhere
>WE MUST FLEE! DO NOT FIGHT THE MONSTER!
>Run
>The pawns do not
>No matter what command you give them
>Pretty much forced to escort my own asshole pawns to safety at a snail's pace

great AI gud game!!

>>377081424
This is one of my favorite games ever, but objectively speaking it's maybe a 6.5/10 without the expansion, and an 8/10 once you get to the expansion area. The game itself is mostly meh until the latter 25% of a playthrough, but that's mostly because of the glaringly obvious lack of money/dev time, as shown by the lack of enemy variety, static placement of enemies, uninspired dungeons (until the expansion area), questionable design choices (like pausing to heal instantly, stat growth by vocation), lots of walking, and a very small and generic map.

But, DD;DA is proof of concept of something that has the potential to be ridiculous amounts of fun. The game is really the first to meld character action / spectacle action gameplay with an RPG in a solid, non-gimicky way. Combat is SO goddamned satisfying, and there are 4 or 5 ways to go about it (ranger, strider/assassin, fighter/mystic knight, magick archer, sorcerer/mage), so it takes a long time to get boring.

Pawns are also an interesting aspect, which could be explored to greater depth. When they mimic your style of play, it's actually really fucking cool.

If the same great mechanics were put into a competent full game, it would be near perfect.

>>377083741
Anon, they were fighting it off...

So that you could escape.

playing through this game a second time makes it really fucking apparent how painfully average it is

the concept is really cool but goddamn is there zero depth to the combat or strategy. its just wail on the npcs and every now and then use a wacky ability to the make the game fun for yourself

>>377083741
I feel like that only happened on the PC release. It never happened on the multiple playthroughs on my PS3, but it happened the first time I tried on PC. Didn't really make a difference since I just sprinted to the top anyways and revived everyone outside of the Everfall gate in the Pawn's Guild

>>377081776
You actually have to travel.
Also, you place port crystals you will find while playing as points you can fast travel to with ferrystones.

It's not really weird so not sure what this anon is on about.

Basically the best game ever made.

>>377083741

>not just sprinting away with one or two 'come!' commands for them to get the hint/rubberband warp behind you

I get that it'd be more natural to do that shit in NG+ but if you didn't notice how pawns react and how the game handles them as you get further away by the time you reach Gran Soren; please refer to my previous stance of you just being shit.

>>377081424
Great Combat
Surprisingly Great World building
Mediocre everything else
DLC is 10/10 and makes up for the underwhelming base game

>>377084372
Tbh pawns don't respond to commands well. The AI of the pawns are quite spotty.

>>377084372
>Sprint to the entrance ignoring the tentacles as told by the pawns
>Halfway there press start
>All pawns are dead
FLAWLESS AI IN A FLAWLESS GAME!!!

>>377083741
I'm sure this might matter more if you weren't literally right underneath the pawn guild, where you can just respawn yours and get two new fresh tagalongs

>>377084924
Don't expect consistently good AI in this game. The pawns are generally stupid, but they sometimes do some genius things.

>>377084982
I literally never had a pawn die before so I didn't know you could just respawn the ones you were traveling with. In particular I was worried about what could happen to my main pawn.

>>377085074
>The pawns are generally stupid, but they sometimes do some genius things.
I think they are great at fighting stuff. The only problems I've had with the AI is when I don't want them to fight.

>>377081424
Flawed masterpiece that grows on you.

You either feel disappointed by the flaws and abandon it or you get really in to it because of the amazing features in the game.

>>377081897
>pressing buttons in a video game? WOW!

>>377081424
It might feel slow at the start but the gameplay feels great. Character customization is good and so is the pawn system. The game has a lot of potential for sequels but I doubt capcom cares about developing more games like it. That said, it's fun but it's no Dark Souls.

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>>377086067
>it's no Dark Souls.
You're right. It's better.

idk man i have downloaded and uninstalled this game 2 times because its boring. man i think i only have made past the second town after fighting the monster on the beach

should i replay it man? idk the size is too big

>>377081424
I bought it a long time ago and played it for 35 minutes.

Game didn't really grab me.

Maybe it gets good, but it didn't really make me want to find out.

>>377085819

Holy fucking shit, this.

>casting a tornado
>I actually do a hand gesture like some damn wizard

We need more games like this.

deep down never ever for fucking ever god kill me please

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>>377085819
>sorcerers have to hang back or be defended as they intone fuckhuge nuke spells
>sorcerers working together make the cast go faster
the best

>>377081424
I'd say overall it's a pretty good game, but there are a few things about the game that really irk me, like difficulty scaling high and later into virtually nothing, the way some classes are built and the way the game calculates defenses

its a great game people are just mad they have to walk to places for a while before you get the portcrystals to set up a fast travel network. the pawn system is neat and with further refinement could have been great.

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>>377081424
Fantastic game. Best combat in an open world RPG, easily. One of the main reasons I bought a PS3, and I bought it day one on PC, too.

>>377081424

It's unconventionally awesome.

I mean it does a lot of things fucking terribly, but it does things no other game does and it does them fucking superbly.

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>>377081424
I recommend it strongly. Not sure if it's for everyone and it does have its faults, but where the game does do well, it does really well. If anything, play and beat it just for Grigori.

>>377086414
if you got to the hydra head escort quest I dont blame you? thats the worst part of the game. you still have shit taste though so you should probably go kill yourself or go play skyrim or something. that may be more your pace, killing yourself that is.

>>377089537
I absolutely dont want that sonce its such a great moment

It has a slow start, but once you reach the castle you get a lot more freedom. The combat is solid, especially when playing as a mage. Also training your pawn not to be a piece of shit is fun, especially when they do things like catch you after a harpy has dropped you from mid-air.

>>377089526
im hurt anon. but yeah skyrim is better than dragon dogshit though

>>377081424
It's 60% off at humblebundle

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>>377087119
>that gif
If Itsuno's new game is Dragon's Dogma 2 with multiplayer support and/or a more comprehensive pawn command system that lets me pull this off all the time I'll suck his dick for a gorillion years.

>>377081424
ARPG open world game with a very very low variety of monsters.

It´s fun 2bh, made me play for +100h without playing the NG+.

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>>377081424
now THIS is a Bloodborne ripoff.

Prove me wrong.

>>377081424
It's good but the fact that it's designed around new game + was almost a deal breaker for me.
It's designed to make you miss things, entire quests, alternate ways to resolve them, you can for example remove merchant NPCs permanently from the world until new game + if you do or don't do some quests, there are several stages in the story where everything in the world changes and you fail most quests that are still in your journal because the game decided you needed to finish them before the start of that stage, there's also a soft save/hard save system designed to make your choices matter but it just locks you with outcomes that you didn't want sometimes because of some bugs like a dead NPC that fell to his death because of a bug, that kind of thing.
I also hate the "2 seconds to react and only it's only possible if you are not too far from the action" events before someone gets killed in a cutscene but there are only a few of them.

If you want to min/max you need to read a guide about the class beforehand and you'll be forced to play classes you don't want to play to unlock things for the one you want.

Also the game doesn't respect the player's time at all, you walk at a snail's pace and you have the stamina of a morbidly obese person. If you don't keep portcrystals in your inventory to place at strategic and far aways places you'll need to run there everytime.

It's still fun thanks to the gameplay, monster designs, atmosphere and cute pawns with relatively good AI.

>>377091842
It is literally 100% nothing like Bloodborne. Shares nothing in common aside from vaguely being the same genre, and even more vaguely just being a video game.

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I need to do another playthrough.

>>377085819
>>377086184
>>377092240
not even memeing, gonna try this game because of these.

>>377090441
I'm glad you at least have a video game you enjoy, anon. That's rare on /v/.

>>377092303
olra was the worst

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>>377092427

>>377090652
>multiplayer support

Why do you fucks want to force multiplayer into every single game?

>>377092519
Because playing video games with your friends makes most video games more enjoyable.

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>>377083856

>>377092497
Post all of these you have.

>>377085819
>>377086184
>>377092240

How is the lore thing in this game? As fun as in souls?

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>three mage pawns
>they all pawn maelstrom
>all the time
>every time

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>>377092497
>makes no sense but became highly quoted classic thanks to a character or two, despite the plot
accurate.

>>377084127
I'm playing it on a Ps3 right now.

This happens constantly, you can't run from fights without leaving all your pawns to die.

>>377092597
>lore
>fun

>>377092597
Something about the way the devs handle existentialism without being heavyhanded is what makes DD's lore so damn good. By the time you piece together what the overall lore is about the worlds God and the cycles, the game is still rolling and treating you respectably as a viewer. It's something you don't get from most modern games anymore, where the plot elements are shoved down your throat with the graciousness of a drowning man.

>>377092519
Because we have friends and familly unlike you.

>>377092563
>>377092837
Stop ruining vidya because of it, games with shoehorned multiplayer are always lower quality because of mass appeal.
Stop being casuals.

They are masterworks all, you can't go wrong.

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>>377092593
That's all of them, I have webms though.

>>377085693
shut up dude. Dont even try to pretend like playing a caster is fun for anything except looking at the pretty animations. And to go so far as to call it "the best casting" system when it is literally holding a button for like 10 seconds each cast is flat out retarded

>>377092894
Wanting a more enjoyable experience doesn't make someone a casual. Plus there's no shoehorning to be done, the game already pairs you with a helper like 10 minutes in.

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>>377092701

>makes no sense

Did 2001 roll over your head? The comparison to DD is pretty apt mainly because of the main plot point which was never explicitly stated.

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>>377092593

@377092939

>shut up dude. Dont even try to pretend like playing a caster is fun for anything except looking at the pretty animations. And to go so far as to call it "the best casting" system when it is literally holding a button for like 10 seconds each cast is flat out retarded

dont be obtuse!

>>377092930
I don't have the bkub image but don't lie to people about the absolute worst most boring class in the game.

>>377092837
Then play a shitty MMO and stop ruining single player games with forced multiplayer that waste the budget.

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>>377093156
Warrior is great though!

>>377092971
Nah, yeah I got the gist of it. An intangible race of aliens made a self-replicating cosmic swiss army knife to spark and nurger intelligent life, and they challenged humanity to Jupiter to invite them to become like them. Great fun.

What didn't make sense was the pivotal subplots along the way, such as HAL going batshit. They needed a sequel to maintain that and it still doesn't explain why he murdered the whole crew. Especially when in the first book he only tries to kill the two active astronauts, because the three in the cryo pods were his mission, and his whole "i have to keep it a secret but i'm programmed not to be dishonest" quirk didn't apply to them since they knew the whole thing.

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>>377093156
>he doesn't have bkub images

>>377085819
THIS 2BH SENPAI

>>377093298
>nurger
fug my inner finn is coming out, i meant nurture

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>>377093298

nigga 2001 is a film where the character(s) realize by the end of the film that they are, in fact, in a film.

same thing with dragons dogma, but neither film nor game comes outright and says it.

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>>377092593
Oh! I found the last one!

>>377093412
I forgot you could be a pedo. 10/10 game.

>>377090441
>but yeah skyrim is better than dragon dogshit though
Are you by chance 13 years old? You sound like you're 13 years old.

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>>377093517

Why be the pedo when you can be the loli?

>>377093459
>nigga 2001 is a film where the character(s) realize by the end of the film that they are, in fact, in a film.
You can't just say that like it's fact and not sauce me on something like that. I've never heard this outside of "dude whoah" discussions between viewers and I've heard interviews from Kubrick and Arthur C Clarke about the film.

>>377093702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSo6s_xrj4c

>>377093732
Oh wow some dude's film analysis, you sure showed me.
Sounds fun though, thanks.

>>377093804

Let me know what you think after, if this threads still here.

I haven't played it but this is my most hated fanbase. The sheer level of hipocrisy they are capable of is amazing.

>>377093614
why be either when you can be the thicc

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>can't climb mountain
>rpg
>no bethesda game

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>>377093998
Why be thicc when you can be the demons?

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>>377093998
>made a strongfat female barbarian as my first character (on hard difficulty)
>forced her to wear skimpy clothes throughout most of the game
>finally get to Grigori
>my dick when riding him
Now I wonder if anybody has modded the body sliders for this game yet

>>377081424
It's worse than /v/ led me to believe

>>377093789
The game had no explosions. Bolide wasn't quite right.

>>377093789
Adorable

>>377093865
It's a fun thing to think about, but it feels like an asspull. Especially when his most major point in this first video is about how we see the monolith in its final form (turned on its side) yet the final appearance of the monolith to David Bowman, as he's beginning his rebirth, is upright.

Kubrik liked his subtle hints, though, like one of HAL's first tricks/malfunctions in communicating one of his Chess moves to Frank Poole from Frank's perspective, when you're supposed to communicate it from your own (and Kubrik was into chess so he was definitely aware of this). So with what this second video is pointing out, it seems plausible. But given that he admitted in the previous video about Kubrik wanting a voice over mentioning aliens, this sounds like it would have been a last minute change that he didn't completely have in mind.

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>>377094497
I blame the hardware at the time of release. PS3 and 360 just weren't powerful enough.

>>377093412
Man, that Watermelon Man remake got weird as shit towards the end.

>>377093789
Post slides

>>377094605
>But given that he admitted in the previous video about Kubrik wanting a voice over mentioning aliens

The fact that the mention of 'aliens' during that one meeting is left out so hard is pretty unnerving though.

>>377094719
But you literally can't see anything? Just make it small.

it's a good game for one playthrough. There's almost no replayability. The overworld has nothing interesting in it. You'll spend a majority of the time played sprinting while occasionally tapping the key you have bound to eat a mushroom to recover your stamina.

The combat's decently fun. I would save give it a pirate and see if you like the mechanics. It's mechanically pretty fun, but delivers a mediocre experience as a game.

>>377094335
hello guy
>tfw want to stream DD or something again but burnt out

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>get some pawns
>they're all loli pawns or elf fucking shits

>>377094913
It's really disappointing how all those chests in the world contain nothing of value. Always the same useless garbage. Would it have killed them to actually have some unique loot in some of the more harder to reach chests?

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>>377095138
You were looking in the wrong rift then friend.

>>377095193
You have bad rng luck my friend, or no patience to godsbane for 20 minutes. One of the two.

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>the everfall

>>377092765
It's kinda fun to learn more about story, characters with that anon.

>>377092797
So it's good? Damn I almost feel bad for pirating this game

>>377093789
so i can play a qt witch if i play this game

nice

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>>377095552
Yep, but I like Magic Archer better.

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>>377095138
>get some pawns
>they're all loli pawns or elf fucking shits

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>>377092930

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>what are we gonna do on the beach?

>>377082831
Agreed, we did get this though which I like just as much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcoLNTG1tTo&ab_channel=dragonarisen

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>>377095825
>still get boatloads of xp

I love this game.

>>377095797
I thought Fable's gimmick where you could infinitely charge up attacks forever to make them stronger was really cool, but it always lacked the AI to actually make it worth doing that.

>>377081424

I wish I never played it. Not because it's bad, but because I love it too much. I honestly cannot play any other game without comparing it to this except I've played it too much to warrant playing it again anymore. I've invested so much time into my pawns (I had multiple accounts so I could make more) and my arisen that I cannot play a game if I can't make one of my characters from DDDA in that game; and even then I still wish I could have my pawn and arisen together once again plus I have fallen so deeply in love with my pawn that I've rejected all other husbandos. There's also the fact that barely anything is known about how the game actually works, which incited so much discussion in /ddg/ even years after release.
Even today, no one truly knows whether or not training is a meme.

Basically, if you like to RP, you'll like this game and wish there was a sequel.

>>377081424

Its on sale on the humble store

>>377095825
BEN SAD
BEN NOT TAKE IT ANYMORE
BEN BID FAREWELL CRUEL WORLD

>>377081424
3
SKILLS
WARRIOR

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>>377082050

>>377081424
It's literally the only good non-Souls game to come out in the last five or ten years.

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I'll Godsbane myself if we don't get DD2 at E3.

>>377097045
you wont

Dragon's Dogma has some truly god awful reviews. I made the mistake of watching Previously Recorded's review and even though they recommended it, it was a struggle to get through it.

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>>377097045
>tfw they rename Deep Down to DD2

>>377097520
DDown could not have been further from DDogma

>>377095453
>>377095837

Why the long face?

If you're gonna avatarfag at least create a good-looking character

Like most Japanese games, half the details are finely sculpted to a microscopic edge, and the other half are phoned in embarrassingly.

Pros
>Great combat
>Vernacular faithful to setting
>Great atmosphere
>BEST girls in the genre
>Dark Arisen DLC that comes built in with the PC version is "the real game" where Capcom decides they want to try their hand at Dark Souls, best DLC since New Vegas's. It cracks me up how grim the monologues in this arc are.
>ALL characters are romanceable
>Boss fights are challenging, especially Dark Bishop/Cursed Dragon combo the first time
>Great music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcoLNTG1tTo

Cons
>"Open world" where almost every location is like a featureless rock in the middle of a field, Japan doesn't like world-building
>90% of characters have a single line of dialogue, even if you risk your life to make them your waifu they come to you after the game and say the exact same shit they said when you went to buy fish from them 2 weeks ago
>Weak environmental textures and models like most Japanese games

I highly recommend this game, it's loads of fun and I've spent 120 hours on it. If you're comfortable with its flaws, you'll find a new block for your 3x3.

can i go from sorcerer to mystic knight or do you have grind out fighter first for more str?

>tfw using brain splitter for the first time

What are the recommended nude mods? It's been a while since I last checked, but they all looked like ass before.

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>>377098108
This one?

>>377098136
The one you will make yourself.

>>377083392
>Get 3 sorcerers with Grand Bolide or whatever
>Get magnamathing Cloak to heal your whole party when you heal yourself
>Never have to formulate strategy again because they wipe anything threatening by casting a huge spell in 1/3 the time

>>377098086
stats make up a negligible percentage of your endgame stats
and the game isn't hard anyway

you might notice a lack of stam when sprinting around tho

I recently purchased it on Steam after playing it about halfway through on PS3. I remember it very very fun and having a great atmosphere, but the game world was dissapointingly small considering how fun traveling the roads with your squad was, and the challenges by mid game were already piss easy. That said my experience with it was good enough to make me want to play it again on PC, so I recommend.

>>377094630
Did that pawn just great gamble a fucking skeleton?

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>>377098562
Yes. She tends to go overboard quite a bit, but she's still pretty bro-tier.

>>377098562
Yes.

Pawns generally use skills in inappropriate situations if they've not been trained properly.

is there any way to lock inclinations? i hate it when you accidentally hit help or go and shit just changes to guardian

>>377098850
Just use hook mod to set them to what they should be before you rest each time

>>377098850
There is a process you can do using those potions you buy at the camp, but I forget so you'll have to google it.

This shit is like marmite. Everyone either loves it to death or hates it forever.

>>377098945
That method isnt permanent though.

>>377098692
Please dont perpetuate this myth. They will use any ability they have equipped regardless of "training". Their knowledge only boils down to bestiary knowledge and inclinations.

>>377081774
Pros:
>multiplayer
>good ol' DD combat and monster-climbing
>each class is pretty unique and plays very differently
>you can create up to 3 pawns
>you can go full-on fashion's dogma due to social equip slots
>warrior class is god-like

Cons:
>grind grind grind
>language barrier
>requires VPN to start up the launcher, let alone play (but there's a way to bypass it)
>some returning bosses are butchered in terms of fight mechanics (golem is no longer immune to magic for example, also loses it's face laser for some reason)
>new boss rage mechanic can be a big turn-off, but thankfully they eased it a bit now
>inventory management can be a nightmare if you're a hoarder

that's all i can think of for now

>>377099357
If it's Japan only, doesn't that mean the servers are there? It must be laggy as fuck to play anywhere but West coast USA.

>>377098692
>yfw the pawn training meme STILL exists

>>377099647
I used to agree that the AI training was a myth but then my pawn learned to toggle lanterns after crossing bodies of water.

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>>377099759

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>>377099647
>>377099243
>>377099801

It does though. Why else would playing catch with deer exist?

>>377099425
that I cant say for sure as I'm from SEA and having little lag issues so far

>>377099647
>muh training meme
I can't wait for your non-existant proof, your lack of source and a bunch of lies...

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>>377081424
It's comfy. Finished my first run. Currently making a pic related run. First time I pick a wizard. I wanna make an all-wizard party and burn everything.

>>377099031
A friend that I bought the game for when it was on sale liked it, then he played it and hated it the more he played. He only got to Gran Soren. Now he refuses to go back and try it again and also doesn't trust game recommendations from me anymore since I praised it so highly.I BOUGHT IT FOR YOU, YOU UNGRATEFUL FUCK

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>>377100149
i cant read that shit, man.

>>377091842
Its actually good

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>Make fun fast paced combat system.
>mfw I later realize skill basically means fuck all and its all about the overall stats of your character.

Like ok, its a fucking RPG, but its also an Action game. They really couldn't balance this better? There is already a sense of progression and growing stronger with gaining vocation skills. Shit like gear shouldn't matter this much when it doesn't need to.

Bitterblack was cool though.

Is there a mod where I can have 6 skils with a 2 handed weapon yet? I like having a big sword but hate my options being limit to 3 attacks

>>377091842
>Bloodbornefags unironically believe this
>>377092240
This is unironically true.
>Be swordfag,
>Sweep the enemies all around me with the might of my sword
>Use my blade to catapult my bro so he can slash the cyclops in the eye
>Charge a powerful slash and unleash it with full strength as a griffin is about to sing his claws on me with an air strike.
>Griffin not only falls, but gets absolutely fucking destroyed.
This game makes my pee pee feel funny.

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>>377100436
good shit

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>>377100518
Post more Griffin bullying!

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>>377100518
>no guts on PC

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>>377100672

>>377091842
>DD started development in 2011
>Bloodborne started late 2012

faggot

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>>377100669
>Guts Cosplay
>Gonna romance notCasca
>Escort mission
>Everything is going smoothly. because my pawnbro is Judeau
>Suddenly, epic music starts
>OH SHIT NO NO NO NO
>Lands right on notCasca's ass, wrecking her ass forever.
GRIFFIIIIIIIIN!!!!!!11

>>377093508
make a Strider one with JSRF pic

>>377100518
>Still no Guts restoral mod for PC
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

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It's a game that had a shitload of potential but ultimately failed in many aspects.
It has some of the most mind-boggling open-worlds i can remembers in games. It's not even fun to traverse it, the only interesting segment was a travel to the Bluemoon Tower because it actually used unique mechanics like wind blowing your character back.

Class balance and general combat balance is a fucking ass.
Pure blue classes are some of the worst caster experience i can remember in games, it's literally a glorified awesome button with zero depth to it. The funniest way to play a mage is by simply repeatedly spamming the charged, light-enchanted magic bolt of your staff, which tells a lot.
Red classes are shit, warrior only has 3 slots, they don't have any advanced in-depth mechanic to their melee systems at all.
Yellow classes and their hybrids are the only truly fun to play as, but they suffer general problems of the game balance as well, like who the fuck gave magic archer a stat growth THIS bad.
Six skill slot limitation doesn't help at all, too, feels like some skills should at least replace generic attack/climbing attack action. Fuck, even a shitty Amalur had better casting and combat system despite being a horrible game as well.

Pacing, story, difficulty curve, all screams from being utterly unfinished and poorly thought out. Even DLC, by far the best part of the game, starts re-using environments which is a fucking joke when you enter the same room you visited a hour ago.

And the worst thing, i can't say that this game is hopelessly bad. But i certainly will never understand the title of cult classic it acquired.

>>377101001
>game is bad
>but i still played it just after it got released on PC

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>>377093517
>Romance Julien with my cute witch pawn
>Game ends
>Selene appears on the beach, final scene
I've accidentally created something beautiful

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>>377100846

>>377093694
How to turn your pawn into a beast?
Mine is little more than useless.

>>377101072
i really wonder about the thought process behind this post
or lack thereof

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Reminder to put the game in Japanese
Also pls hire my lvl 20 dwarf warrior

>>377101172
Give him a better weapon

>>377101001

If you can't understand it, it's simply because you are very, very, very dense.

We can spend all fucking day talking about the gorillion issues in balance in videogames for all fucking titles there are and by putting your soap opera tone towards everything, all games will wind up sounding like garbage with barely any redeeming qualities.

Truth of the matter is that the game played extremely well. The mood was enjoyable, the character designs remain unique on their own, the lore was interesting, the game was long and heavily customizable and the pawn system was lively even if hilariously annoying sometimes.

There are no games like that in the current generation. And there are none being made.
Why would it surprise you that an actually quality title that then arrives to PC, which is heavily starved on these kind of games hilariously enough, becomes wildly popular and loved?
Specially when 80% of what you list is purely from a personal perspective and has no actual value on the game's quality at all.

Speaking of she goats, was I supposed to help her in the duel? She lost and fucked off from my game forever

>>377101234
DamnI've been looking for a dwarf warrior for a very long time. Party had
>Human beardy mage
>Drow archer hottie
>Halfling daggerfag fuckboi.
Just needed the dwarf, but couldn't find it anywhere.

You know what would make the game much better?
The ability to camp, make a bonfire à la Darkest Dungeon to heal yourself, pass the night, give orders to your pawn like with the chair, have him tell you stories, etc

>>377101254
>Specially when 80% of what you list is purely from a personal perspective and has no actual value on the game's quality at all.

What a stupid-ass statement.

Just because you don't agree with his complaints doesn't make them invalid. There is no such thing as an objectively good game.

>>377101331

You can watch, you can help, you can sabotage her, you can kill both of them.
All choices do something slightly different.
Generally sabotaging her is, funnily enough, the best reward.
Helping her, though, makes you able to capture the traitor and romance him if you are into that, by visiting him in jail. And also lets you get his shield for besting him.

She has a chance of winning even if you dont't help her, buuuut she worthless mostly.

>>377101331
You can. Though her pride is hurt but she does accept that she's not suited for knight stuff. You can also revive Julian if you so please, with a wakestone.

>>377081424
It's one the most amazing game you'll ever play, but people will still call it shit, but it has a ton of those "moments", you know what I mean.

>>377101254
>Truth of the matter is that the game played extremely well
I like that this person tries to bash other people for being "subjective" while delivering high-quality counter arguments like this.

>>377092939
It does magic well in the way spells have a nice weight and power to them, long cast times and strong spells is lore-wise nice just not very fun.

>>377101505
Where do I get wakestones from anyway
I failed that earlygame quest where some dude wanted a wakestone for his son because I only found like 2 shards

Do people still fight ur dragon?

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>>377101378
>You know what would make the game much better?
>The ability to camp, make a bonfire à la Darkest Dungeon to heal yourself, pass the night, give orders to your pawn like with the chair, have him tell you stories, etc
This, hunting, and banter among different pawn personalities/tastes/ and I will buy DD2 sequel on day one. The adventuring part of it felt really comfy.
>I step before magebro to protect him from lizardman
>Warriorbro grabs it from behind so that I can finish it off.
>Archerfag is distracting the chimera, dodging like a motherfucker
10/10 bro op. Also, best beholder fight in the history of vidya.

>>377101421

I think you might be delving too much into being retarded yourself, if you can't understand a personal opinion towards something has no weight on the quality value of something.

"I don't like it." doesn't mean it's not good no matter how much you want to scream about it.
He might not have found caster classes enjoyable.
I personally found them to be extremely satisfying and one of the most immersive magic-casting situationals.

The game is hardly devoid of issues, but claiming something is a flaw out of personal lack of enjoyment for it is just moronic.
I am pretty sure even you can wrap your head around something as simple as that.

>>377101584
One is sold on Fournival and the Black Cat.
Others could be found in random places.

>>377101656
When can't think of a worthy counter-argument, attack your opponent.
Keep delivering high-quality arguments, anon!

>>377101626
Why the fuck would you need to protect your mage, when he can fuck up a lizard faggot in half a second with fireballs

>>377101563

But it did. And it's a sentiment shared by all reviews of the game. The pace is set well.
You can account it as subjective even then if you will, I don't mind, but I'll stick to that for the closest of a fact as you'll get from this honestly inane subject.

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>>377081424
Its a true rough gem

But its one of my favorite games of all time, and probably one of the best 'fantasy party adventure' games out there.

It feels like you're playing an old D&D picture.

>>377081424
Game has god tier magic, very immersive.

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made xena and gabrielle looking characters and then fapped
DD2 when??

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>>377101710

This ain't even an argument. The game is already loved and well-regarded. You are mistified by it one way or another.
The reasons for it have been pointed out. If you don't want to grasp them it's entirely on you, I gain or lose nothing either way.

>>377101798
With not even reaching 80% in both console metacritic sections, i doubt you should really bring modern video game journalism into this, anon.

>>377081897
>2017
>using buttons to play games

>>377101656
>but claiming something is a flaw out of personal lack of enjoyment for it is just moronic.

Wow.

>>377101710
>When can't think of a worthy counter-argument, attack your opponent.
When you say that there is no such thing as an objectively good game the discussion ends, as you prove that you will keep moving goalposts as much as you need so that you can justify your contrarian shittery.

The game is good not because it's not flawed, but because it's original in many aspects and it delivers an experience that no other game has. That's why some books become cult classics. Not because they're the best of the genre, but because they were unique when they came out. Now stop le epic trolling please.
>>377101764
The chimera.

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>>377101828
>stand there for 20 seconds to look as the character slooooooooooooooowly casts a direct attack spell from a pathetic little pool of uninteresting mechanically spells with like 2 or 3 exceptions
yeah real god tier

>>377101956
>The chimera.
>>I step before magebro to protect him from lizardman

>>377101981

Now you are just baiting wait too hard, m8.

>>377101981
>let me just cling to this weakspot and spam thousand kisses/dire gouge
wow I sure am glad I'm no sorcerer cause that's boring

>>377102070
where am i wrong, exactly?
the fact 90% of spells in the game are direct attacking and lacking any sort of depth?
the fact a typical DD mage experience is just standing on one spot looking at your spell charge bar?

>>377101891
>The game is already loved and well-regarded.
It's also forgotten by general rpg crowd and will never get a proper sequel.
Tough shit, anon!

>>377101981
I bet you like sympathy of the nights magic faggot

>>377102113
well at least it requires actual manual input from you, ain't it

>>377101981
>Magic is massive cost/reward
>Spells are insanely powerful rather than 'spam this 10000 times to win'
>This is bad

I will admit it would have been better had it had a combo system of some sort, or a more engaging form of charging other than just holding one button. But DDs magic is fucking god tier amazing fun to use and literally no other ARPG comes close to that feeling of power.

So go fug a fish

>>377102170

Aww, you tried.

>>377102301
Hes right

>>377102343

The momentum is gone, anon. You know it is. Move on.

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>>377102047
Was casting a spell and some lizards tried to stop him. There was a chimera around too. Next to the bandit camp, I think.
>>377102070
Not him but never played as wiz. What's the fun part of it?
>>377102113
Your gameplay is boring, anon.
>Be assassin.
>Poison arrow, hit enemy once.
>Switch to shield.
>Run towards him, style the shit out of him while I start hitting his legs to make him fall.
>>When he falls, spam scarlet kisses to break tusks.
>As he stands up, use my shield to let my pawn jump on his head again and hit his eye.
>He mad now. Chasing me
>Before he gets me, climb on a rock and throw an exploding barrel on his face.
>While he staggers, climb his back.
>Start slashing so that it jumps to get rid of me
>Jumps too hard and falls off a cliff
>I get off just in time and get saved as the cyclops falls to his death.
FUN.

>>377101001
You know when a person is stupid when they think the stat growths were super important.

>>377102275
Amalur's magic system easily beats DD's as far as ARPG magic goes because it actually allows you to be way more reactive while keeping the feeling of being a powerful mage raining down meteorites on your enemies. And that's given that Amalur is overall just as low-quality as DD. Play more games.

>>377102523
>It allows you to be way more reactive
>As a fucking wizard.

No, Amalur makes you feel like a shitty superhero, DD makes me feel like Merlin casting down firestorms on a dragons head.

>>377102523
What the fuck are you talking about? KoA's entire combat system is
>spam this one combo over and over and use the one spell/skill that is actually useful

Senpai i did all the main quests and shit but i did nothing in the island DLC since i was upset my char had died. Is it worth installing again just for playing the island?

>>377102587
>DD makes me feel like Merlin casting down firestorms
I'm pretty sure Merlin was capable of more than just looking at his spell charge bar to cast one spell over and over again while dying from boredom.

So many damn dd threads.
I'm pining for a ps4 sequel or ddo being in English.
Is this viral marketing or straight up hype shilling for one or the other?
Please be so!

>>377082568
>old shitty video game magic where everything's just a nuke instead of more creative magical abilities

Did you even play the game?

You know magick archers and magick knights are in there too right?

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>>377102420

There's nothing more satisfying than managing to pull of a sorceror's Cataclysm or High Glicel.
BBI makes it harder for you to be able to use long cast time stuff, so you do revert back to quick casting and enchantment in most cases.

But before that one can say whatever they want about the casting times being long, but the moment you see the whole bandit army in the canyons, or the fucking first cockatrice you fight, being bound by Cataclysm, flinging shit all over the place while everyone stares in horror at your world-ending might, you feel like an actual mage.

Then there's impaling flying enemies on High Glicel and plummeting them down by the sheer force of it. That shit's straight out of Avatar.

>>377102618
>spam this one combo over and over and use the one spell/skill that is actually useful
You just perfectly described DD.

Dragon's dogma 2 needs a faster-paced walking speed. Perhaps 2 walking speeds.
>>377102523
>>377102275
Dragon's dogma could have more interesting magic and it's easy to do.
>Some spells are quick
>Larger spells leave you motionless, but you can control the hand of your character
>You need to move your hand to shiny spots that appear on the screen.
>You actually need to focus to cast the spells faster, being an easy target.
I was pleased to see that Dragon's Dogma Online has something like that.

>>377102623
Yeah man
Bitterblack Isle is some of the best content in the game, and you get your character back in NG+ too

>>377102674
>straight up hype shilling
Jesus fucking christ I hate you people and your damn buzzwords. If it's just a random guy being hyped about something, it's not fucking shilling

>>377102659
>Casting great spells requires patience and Skill

Oh my, it's like I want the real wizard experience and not just ADD mode.

>>377102476
>You know when a person is stupid when they think the stat growths were super important.
DD's retarded way of handling stats and damage calculation is a geniune complaint though.

DD's biggest appeal is its combat and its balanced in a really shitty way.

>>377102674
DESU I'm pretty hyped about DDO being released in the west. FUCKING WHEN, though. Is there a release date?
Also there was a Dragon's Dogma thread yesterday, but it wasn't made by the same guy. I made it.

>>377102730
Good for you, I just hate KoA

>>377102856
Considering the biggest spread between stats is like 200 HP and like 100 in either damage stat it's really fucking stupid when BBI gear starts giving 1000 on each damage.

>>377102819
>I want the real wizard experience
Then you would be playing in games with actually good magic and spell prep systems, like BG2 or even Morrowind, not in this abortion.

>>377102674
>Hype shilling
Wow, it's like we are talking about video games, in a video game image board. Who knew?

>>377102865
Crazy as it seems, I'd like a scaled mode where every weapon and armor is pretty much the same in terms of damage and all enemies can get rekt or wreck your shit. No major difference between levels and stats either.
That's how I thought NG+ would be. Goblins were fun to fight, feels bad to get so strong.

>>377102734

I don't understand.
There are faster spells in Dragon's Dogma more than giant sorceror AOE's that bind you in place. In fact only Sorceror spells actually have any real high cast time to begin with, most mage spells are about sticking to the target long enough for the spell to take effect/keep ticking.
There are also two other caster classes, being magic knight and magic archer, which also have their own kind of magic playstyle.

>>377102749
I mean, how many hours can i get by playing only in the island?

>>377102952
>BBI gear
you mean the very fucking endgame, and after going through intense grindan to get most of them
so?

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>>377081424
So how's the lore of DD? Is it consistent and a blend of grimdark and comfy like Witcher and not that retarded super edgy Soulshit? Do the japs know that other kingdoms are prone to not liking eachother? And that peasants also hate everything not human and magical.

>>377102957
>BG2
>Morrowind

>Click spell off of a list, watch it destroy everything.

>>377102957

You need to get out of your basement more often, Bob.
Believe it or not, time -has- kept moving since you first entered it.

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>>377102819
>patience and Skill
>just stay behind your pawns and cast
yeah man real skill

>>377102856
>DD's biggest appeal is its combat and its balanced in a really shitty way.
I don't understand this complaint. You can buy as many greenwarishes as you want and eat them during combat, even mid-animation or while knocked down. I know you're just gonna say "b-but I don't play it that way" but in matter of fact the combat wasn't designed to be challenging or min-maxed

>>377103046
>Basic bitch BBI items can net you like 500 Damage on a basic weapon.

>>377103078
good way to tell you've never played in them

>>377103060
>Do the japs know that other kingdoms are prone to not liking eachother?
It's actually brought up but not exactly forced. The game isn't that one to force you into places, you'd have to go look for them. Though, there isn't much, as the game is unfinished.

>>377103060
hot

>>377103119
>Biggest complaints people have about spell casting is MUH TIMEFRAME and MUH STOOD STILL

>People are legit complaining they can't instant cast huge spells of doom because they're baby back bitches.

>>377103123
>but in matter of fact the combat wasn't designed to be challenging or min-maxed
then why the fuck even play in this game?
no balance, no challenge, no actual need for preparation and build crafting, what's the appeal?

Game is fucking great with a bunch of really good quests. The problem is outside of these quests and the DLC it's a pretty empty world. A more fleshed out sequel that didn't change much of anything else except some more skills for each vocation and letting Warriors have six would probably be me favorite game of all time.

>>377103230
No one said you have to eat them greenwarishes bro, you can have challenging combat if you want to

>>377103119
>Combine Magicka with Dragon's Dogma
>Each time you merge 2 elements you get some delay casting the magic sigil
>It's the magic of Dragon's Dogma, with Dragon's Dogma pace, but with Magicka combos.
fund it.

>>377103165
...What? That's literally how you cast spells in BG2.

You pick Cloudkill and win.

>>377103230
>There is No balance
Who needs balance in a fucking single player game?

>No challenge
Play the less strong classes?

>no need for prep
Did you actually play the game?

>Build crafting
Go back to Souls.

>>377103304
>Magic is now a huge special snowflake cluster fuck because a few autists on /v/ got angry at a cast bar.

>>377101681
Really surprised no one has made a goat model with Mercedes' outfit yet for this game

>>377103313
oh i'm sorry, i need to actually handicap myself for your babymode shit game to provide any challenge?
you're everything that is wrong with modern vidya and i'm glad DD will never get a proper sequel

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/ddg/ when

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>>377103390
Well, magic being a special snowflake cluster fuck is fun.
>>377103495
I'm up for it. Where the fuck did it go? IT was alive some time ago.

>>377081424
fun game 7/10 but seriously overrated by /v/'s contrarians

>>377103537
It finally died, the forge of our aughtism finally went cold.

I might start playing again

>>377083741
You can actually just run to the exit and leave your pawns for dead, they'll just respawn next to you in the next area

>>377097719
Prototypes of the final version that I was too lazy to bother screencapping.
I got self-conscious of using the default head all the time so I tried to make something good out of a stronger skull.

>>377103537
You retards keep trying to revive it and promptly giving up after 2 threads cause it's pointless
Let it go

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>>377103495

>>377103495
Single player game really can't (shouldn't) have a general forever. It always leads to a slow but ever quickening rot of cancer.

>>377101234
>Reminder to put the game in Japanese
Why? Most of the nuances fall on their face in a foreign language.

>>377103123
What part of the "unbalanced and easily exploitable combat" complaint don't you understand?

Dragon's Dogma lives and dies by its combat, and its ridicolously easy to break, even by mistake. The whole loop of progressing and growing as an RPG character in DD is flawed as fuck.

>>377103569

I don't think you understand what contrarian means.

>>377103168
How is it portrayed though? Witcher did a seemingly nice job showing the Northern realms have been killing eachother for a long time until being invaded by a common enemy, even then during the second war they're still trying to fuck eachother over.

>>377081810
So it's like Nioh

>>377103650
It's not about the game being SP or MP, it's about the rate of new content
Once everything is discussed, it always devolves into shitposting and muh waifus
>>377103690
Someone mentions being from another kingdom to help you against the dragon and that's about it
This isn't Witcher, the game barely gives a fuck about the story and the writing is laughable

>>377103040
Easily 20+

>>377103740
>really fun and interesting game that is blatantly unpolished/unfinished
Yeah, that's about right.

>>377103467
I find it funny that those people complaining that the game is easy tend to spam curatives and savescumming. Try surviving with what the world offers you. Try to avoid having a healer on your party or overpowered party members. You will find the world is pretty and well designed.
Finding grapes, apples and herbs is fun.

>>377103868

Sounds like Skyrim.

>>377103817
Really? I haven't played for a few weeks, stopped after reaching postgame
I have been to BBI during the main game and it didn't seem that big

>>377103740
Nioh actually has a great combat system.

>>377103650
>>377103640
>>377103537
I think it can work again. It lived long enough without dying, and would get spikes of new ips, and would, until it's end, consistently hit bump limit. BBI and pawn renting is enough to keep it alive. We can do fun stuff too!

>>377103467

Look at you, all flustered nobody takes you seriously. You adorable thing.
Go on, now. Back to replaying your 20 years old games while furiously masturbating to your self-made conclusions of greatness.

>>377103689
People here shit on Skyrim, yet they love DD since it's unpopular

Skyrim has its problems, but at least it doesn't have an empty overworld, a mess of a story and a general lack of polish.

>>377103972

Oh anon. Now you are being hilarious.

>>377103948
>vanilla Skyrim
>fun and interesting
Even most of the quests weren't up to par, and forget the typical horrendous vanilla combat.

>>377103814
>>377103690
Eh, an envoy goes to your kingdom to start a mutiny, so that your kingdom wouldn't be a threat to theirs. Its absolutely passed through but is meant to be a surprise.

>>377104015
Make a thread.
Propose challenges.
post Pawn cosplay shit.
post Stories
post or make Mods

>>377104015
When's the last time you've seen /ddg/? There's someone trying to revive it like once a month at least
>>377104124
Yeah my point is simply that at the end of the day it is NOTHING like Witcher whatsoever

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>>377104060
>Skyrim has its problems, but at least it doesn't have an empty overworld, a mess of a story and a general lack of polish.

>>377103917
>Have to self-impose restrictions on yourself because the devs couldnt be bothered to balance the game properly.

Its like I'm really playing a Medieval-Fantasy Devil May Cry.

>>377104060

Do you honestly, sincerely believe that Skyrim doesn't have an empty overworld?

Nevermind that, but do you also understand you are comparing the fifth entry of one of the most popular sequels of the western videogame market - built entirely barebones and for the sake of modding. - to a niche title rather recently released on PC?

It's obvious people will be more interested and appreciative of a fresher, less known title that had much bigger chances of being shit yet turned out pleasantly great, to discussing Skyrim for the 100000000000000000000000th time.

>>377102770
Calm down pumpkintits it is a word that is in common usage on this board.
And in this context implies that some marketer who has a vested interest in the success of their game, actively hires people to post on social media (including your precious exclusive club, here) in order to drum up enthusiasm for an imminent release.
So yeah, shilling this could very well be.
Not unwelcome however.
Don't be such a sourpuss tigerlily.

>>377104329

Sounds like absolutely every game ever.

>>377104349
Okay you stupid faggot, what's the difference between viral marketing, shilling, and "hype shilling" then?

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>>377104124
One of my favorite characters is Mason.
Motherfucker is cunning and effective at what he does. He seemed like a merchant first, then like a lowlife and finally he reveals himself as a cold blooded secret agent from the church of some sort. Breddy gud
/DDDAG/ When?
>>377104329
So yer a savescummin' health spammin' cunt.
You can literally do the same in Warband and many other games.

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Did we ever get decent Julien sliders? His mace, shield, and armor are way too baller

>>377104060
Haha. Good one.

>>377102982
A sudden upturn in threads relating to a somewhat old, albeit popular game in the sea of "blocks your path" and "claim your waifu" threads doesn't seem suspicious to you?
I mean, I'm all for some motherfuckin dragon's dogma, but my cynicism refuses to believe that /v/ of all places could actually facilitate proper dialogue about one of my favourite games!
What's next? An ultima thread on /vr/
Come on now...

>>377104519
How do I literally spam healing items in Warband?

>>377103667
the voice sound less retarded when they have a different pitch

My dwarf with a deep voice sounds goofy in English but not in Jap