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GAME INFORMER WRITTEN BY NEW YORKER REJECT KIKES WHO DONT ACTUALLY

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GAME INFORMER WRITTEN BY NEW YORKER REJECT KIKES WHO DONT ACTUALLY PLAY VIDEO GAMES CONFIRMED
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>Skyrim is the #1 RPG
Time to burn it all down.
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Calling Skyrim the greatest rpg of all time may be too much but why /v/ pretend that the game sucks nowadays? It deserved every single 9/10 or 10/10 it got back in the days, it is a fantastic game.
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What's actually bad about Skyrim besides the fact that it's popular?
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>>377068254

IM GONNA FUCKING KILL MYSELF
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>>377067918
>>377068254
>>377068293
>1999
gross
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>>377067918
>KIKES

anon please be nice, no foul language please.
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>>377068293
>besides that it's popular
why ask a question if you already know the answer?
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>>377068293
Roleplaying-wise it's a mess, the gameworld hardly acknowledges your actions or position with no logic whatsoever.
Also the reason why it's "good" it's because of the massive amount of user created content and mods people made, vanilla Skyrim is pretty shitty.
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>>377068254

>It deserved every single 9/10 or 10/10

No it didn't.

>it is a fantastic game.

No it isn't. It's an exercise in mediocrity. The perfect example of a 5/10 game.
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>>377068293
>the fact that it's popular
Nailed it
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Why should I care about an irrelevant gaming site that isn't /v/?
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>>377068293
A lot of the true choice was taken out in order to not confuse tards. As well the guild house quests were dull, short, and exceedingly linear. Combat didn't really get much of an update from the previous games which was also a big letdown at the time.
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>>377068293
Shallow boring combat. Graphically ugly. Main story line is awful. World doesn't react to your achievements. Exploration yields little to nothing. NPCs have the same recycled lines and voice actors. Scaling is awful. Everything was dumbed down. The only real good thing about Skyrim is that it lets people create amazing porn.
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>>377068293
>shit as as an action game
>dumbed down and shit as an rpg
>dungeons are all copy pasted shit
>buggy as fuck
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>>377068472
I'd give it a 7.5 maybe even an 8 if you include add-ons to the review. It certainly did not live up to the hype and cut out a lot of the charm that made 3 and 4 so good imo.
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>>377068293

It's shallow, it's poorly written, the pacing is all over the place, has some of the least memorable characters to ever grace an Elderscrolls game, let alone RPGs and the combat is absolute hot garbage.

The only thing Skyrim is good at is providing a sandbox for people to inject their own fandom and fetishes into.

That's literally it.

It's Second Life for Normies.
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>>377068254
>>377068293
Draugr.
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>>377068254
It's literally only good for sex mods.
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>>377067918
This is some blackpill shit. How could anyone rank Skyrim #1 unless they were literally 10 years old when it came out? Just burn it all down.
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The funny part is that Skyrim isn't even an RPG. It's an adventure game. The stats and skills have been so streamlined the game has the depth of a puddle.
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How can you even call Skyrim number 1 if you've played 100 RPGs?
This seems like pandering
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>best rpg of all time is a game that goes out of its way to be as little an rpg as possible


really makes you think
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>>377068809
>It's Second Life for Normies

I don't think you know what Second Life outside from some ebin meme compilations actually is.
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>>377068254
>>377068293
Hello Todd, let me tell you why your game sucks.
>Shit combat, both melee and magic.
>Repetitive quests ("Please go to this dungeon and get this thing, thanks."
>Choices don't matter, like they never do.
>Half of everything you do is hidden behind a loading screen, open world my ass.
So yes, Todd, I regret waiting for 3 days with my shitty internet to pirate your game.
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>>377068293
>reused VAs that don't even try to impose a different diction with each NPC
>boring civil war admist a "greater evil"
>final "boss" was equally as shit
>watered down customization for character; worse than Oblivion's
>unrewarding quests and crafting system
>can't even kill purposely condescending and pompous kids without mods
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>>377068956
the list probably wasn't made by someone who played 100 rpgs, but instead by a group of people that voted on what they considered the best

that's whay I think, anyway. It doesn't make sense that a somewhat experienced rpg player would rank this game at #1
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copying a list in its entirety is "reporting" now?
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Skyrim is a fun casual action-rpg but it is terrible a true rpg.
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>>377068293
Are you joking because I hope you are.
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>>377067918

fuck you rpg-7 is best rpg of all time
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>>377069140
>these lame timid reasons to shit all over it and get upset because its so popular
>implying you dont spam shitposts about the game constantly to vent said anger
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>>377069672
Todd, pls go.
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>>377068293
It's dumbed down garbage for the masses. Like bacon, marvel movies, overwatch, etc.

Play a real game, pic related.
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>>377069818
>play some sexist, homophobic, racist, imperialist, colonialist game instead
nah once white privilege is ended, we're after nip privilege next
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>>377068293
There's also the fact that radiant quests are shit, story quests are shit, DLC is shit (dragonborn was okay), combat is shit, magic is shit, companions are shit

But it looks okay if you're not looking from too close
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>>377068293
Name 3 good things Skyrim did.
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>>377067918
>See that top 100 RPG chart of all time? You can actually go to #1.
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>>377069080

>I don't think you know what Second Life outside from some ebin meme compilations actually is.

It's literally...

>a sandbox for people to inject their own fandom and fetishes into.
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>Skyrim is beloved on the entire internet except /v/
>/v/ throw a bitch fit each time it is oraised
KeK
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>>377067918
Gamestop would probably get more membership card subscriptions if they took out the Game Informer magizines
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>>377070201
Drake is considered a good musician around the world. Just because normalfags like it doesn't mean it is good.
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>>377069672
Damn what a siiick fucking reply dawg
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>>377067918
YOU LITERALLY NEED MODS TO FIX THIS SHIT GAME

HOW CAN IT BE #1 IF YOU NEED MODS TO FIX IT
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>>377069978
>1. catered to the lowest common denominator for maximum profit
>2. Reminded modders that they're superior developers compared to Todd's studio
>3. Jackie Chan

FFFF-- NOT AGAIN
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>>377070201
People like to eat bacon and put pinapple on their pizza, some even leave their skin on their cock, that doesn't make them right
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>>377070201
I'm sorry you have to mask your frustration with liking what is recognized as a shit game with fake amusement. Kek kek kek
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>>377070527
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>>377070631
Bacon is good, and so is having a foreskin you fucking kike.
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>>377070201

I don't hate Skyrim, I enjoy it's sandbox structure and awesome mod support, but there is no fucking way i'd ever agree with it being the best RPG of all time.

That'd def have to be Fallout 4.
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>>377070749
Right... and you probably think skyrim is good. You're fucking retarded and sound no different than the image in the post above you. Go back there.
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>>377070773
>t. Todd
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>Bethesda makes a shitty RPG
>people say it is a "sandbox"
How can one person be so delusional?
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>>377070678
HOW CAN PEOPLE BE THIS RETARDED
FUCK REDDIT
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>>377070984
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>>377070984
>doesn't know what sandbox means

HInt: being a shitty rpg as well isn't mutually exclusive
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>>377068293
It doesnt have gameplay
It stripped out all the RPG elements
Its story is generic cliche shit
Worse questlines than its predecessor
Its cities are smaller than its 2006 predecessor
Its world is empty and there is nothing to do in it.
Only a shit eating casual redditfag would think its a half decent game
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>>377071152
My point is: using "it's a sandbox xddd" as an excusse for a shitty game is just retarded.
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>>377070773
>Fallout 4.
Conversation simulator
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God the formula to vidya success is impressive isn't it? Cater to the bottom of the barrel of players with quick shots of instant gratification, shill shill shill advertising pages, and you just win. You just fucking win. All the people actually trying to make more complicated and engaging games are on the wrong lane for free cash and fame.
It's pretty frustrating to watch honestly.
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>>377071674
Thats pretty much how capitalism works. Its the same in all industries, just look at music.
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>>377070749
Bacon is good in sandwiches and breakfast burritos, but it's pretty bad on its own.
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>>377067918
Gothic isn't even on the list while shit like FF X is on there.
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>>377071828

Hold me bro.
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>>377071674
Financial Success > Cohesive Masterpiece

Take Undertale for example. We may not agree it's a perfect game, but what he did was so beyond expectations that it'd be near impossible to replicate that success. Meanwhile, you have Scott Cawthon whi has made FNAF game after FNAF game for no reason but the profitable margins of the fanbase alone. Now it has a following that is arguably more cancerous than Undertale, and that's largely because the mess leaking out as merchandise into retailers.
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>>377068254
>>377068293
for me the combat just sucked.
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>>377072608

>Scott Cawthon whi has made FNAF game after FNAF game for no reason but the profitable margins of the fanbase alone

Nothing wrong with that. People like to pretend they're above all that, but the truth is that 99% of people would sell out in a heartbeat.
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Here we post RPGs who are better than Skyrim.
Let me start with an easy one: Risen.
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>>377073191

>Risen

Wow anon, way to shit the bed.
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>>377073191
Jesus, anon. Skyrim is bad but That's like saying Two Worlds is better than Skyrim
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>>377073182
I never said there was anything wrong with it, I'm merely reinforcing the idea that financial success will always be the determining factor for why we see devs and publishers will divert their attention to making something more profitable regardless if it's shit or not, rather than taking a leap and do something different with significant improvements.
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Skyrim is one of the best games of all time, you only disagree because it's a mainstream normie game, but it doesn't change the fact that it's true.
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>>377068293
>buggy as fuck
>bland combat
>main quest is about as long as the guild quests, has no urgency whatsoever, is largely uninteresting and forgettable
>game is easy as fuck to cheese and explot
>same 6 voice actors comprise the entire population of Skyrim
>the interesting lore is found by digging through books and shit instead of woven into the actual gameplay, essentially making it completely unimportant
And before you argue that the Souls series does the same thing, the difference is that with Souls, it's an intentional design choice to hide the narrative in item descriptions and situations and make players piece it together and theorize it themselves. It's designed to make you think about it and come to your own conclusions. In Skyrim, it's all just paragraphs of exposition lazily thrown in there because they couldn't think of a way to integrate it into the actual game.
>crafting is uninteresting and easy to exploit

Like, don't get me wrong. I did have fun playing Skyrim but that doesn't make it a good game. It was mindless popcorn filler that gave me something to do while waiting for better releases. I never even gave enough of a shit to finish the main story (I was only 2 quests away from finishing it) and the game only managed to hold my interest through two of the guild quests. It was an entertaining enough romp but it's FAR from #1 RPG of all time material.
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>>377068293
because youses stinky fucking retarded tojo clan motherfucker, goddamn son
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>>377068979
r u talking about igns list
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>>377069216
>Mercer Frey has escaped, find Mercer Frey and see if he knows where Mercer Frey went.

>GIVE MY REGARDS TO KARLIAH IF YOU SEE HER
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>>377068254

Even Oblivion is better
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>>377071824

This is an underrrated observation. Bacon is a good addition but a terrible stand alone.
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Just realized you can take all the criticism of skyrim and put it on all their games, like new vegas, oblivion, etc.

All they do is make the same game over and over again... how do they get away with itM
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>>377069947
>radiant quests are shit
Wasn't that supposed to be the system where NPCs would dynamically generate quests that related to their day-to-day life and were supposed to be unique? Did that ever actually get implemented because I legit can't remember ever getting jack shit for random quests from NPCs. Like, I know that in actuality (coming from Bethesda, at any rate) such a system would ultimately mean random NPCs randomly come up with random fetch quests but I seriously don't even remember having that much happen.
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>>377068293
It's not a great RPG.

I think that as a game, it's fine. It's not phenomenal by any means, but it's not really horrible or anything.

The RPG elements are limited HEAVILY by lack of player choice in 99% of the quests. The main questline has absolutely no player choice whatsoever, 3 of the big 4 faction questlines have no player choice whatsoever (and I'm only counting the dark brotherhood because you can just kill them all, shit choice but it's still there at least). Almost every fucking NPC is unkillable. Especially the Jarls and main faction leaders which makes the game complete shit when you can't assassinate leaders which is the most fun thing to do because they're apparently gods or something.

The only real player choice is really 'how you feel like fighting'. There's a number of different weapons and armors to use, but it pales in comparison to games OF IT'S OWN SERIES.

Skyrim is a dogshit RPG, but as a whole game it's fine. It's a 6/10. Also the dragon fights suck ass.
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Weird, the most widely beloved and best selling RPG of the last decade or more is called the #1 RPG.

Who'd have thunk it?
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>>377070078
>pretty good picture, worried about the guy's housing conditions
>actual neckbeard with rudimentary artistic skills shows how he can't into hands
>spic somehow enters german contest
I don't understand
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>>377068293
I guess it come down to how uninspired it is. No twist and turn plot. No interesting loot. Not a single being to care about outside of that one dragon.

You play it, and keep playing it, but never feel any moments or sense of intrigue. So you keep playing it thinking there might be a pay off, till you just stop, 400 hours and 68 mods later you realize it's just never going to be a fulfilling experience.
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LET'S GET IT STARTEEEEEEEED
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>>377076137
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>>377075420
In the handful of runs I've given the game, every single quest I'd had was identical every time I played a round. From the bum who wants me to steal that Ale for him to mammoth tusk fetching. Unless those are the radiants, but they have no names and are just complete side tracking nonsense?
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>>377076137
Please god no I don't need to be fucking reminded of this bullshit.
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>>377076469
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>>377075262
>you can take all the criticisms of skyrim and put it to NV

Bullshit. I'm sure you can get some similar criticisms in there, but there's no way in fuck you can say there's no player choice in New Vegas.
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>>377076728
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>>377076728
>Horizon is an RPG
Ok, time to lie down now.
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>>377076728
>destiny
FUCKING WHY
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>>377076469
>VTMB at 98
stopped reading right there. I'll be the first to admit the game has its share of problems but there are not 97 more unique, replayable and richly atmospheric as that game.
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Skyrim is a terrible game. Better go play your 10/10 anime pathetic simulators
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I have been playing skyrim remastered on ps4pro and once you get like 20+ hours in it turns into vidyakino. The frame rate sucks dick though, thanks todd
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>>377076795

WE'VE ONLY JUST BEGUN
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>>377077050
>calling anyone pathetic when you are on /v/
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>>377077115
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>Persona 3-5 all listed
They were just stumbling to think of 100 RPGs. Ignore the list
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>>377077276
did they just put games that you can level up in?
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>>377077276
>Inquisition ahead of anything in this list
>Literally anything
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>>377077276
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>>377068254
>>377068293
>guaranteed replies successful
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>>377067918
It's the definition of a worthless opinion. To make things clear, Zelda games and Horizon: Zero Dawn are on the list.

Think about it though: when people make these lists, it's incredibly unlikely that those who made it were exposed to a great many RPGs in any capacity. The way game journalism works now, it's possible that people who never played RPGs contributed to the list.
With that in mind, the list is about filling a quota: they need a certain number of revered classics, picks from other lists, and what's popular in gamer circles. As we get closer to the top of the list, the included what they think are all "perfect 10/10" games, so the placing is more arbitrary because they think it doesn't matter.

Why go through all this trouble to fake knowledge of RPGs? Same reason every Top list is ever made: to bring in clicks.
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>>377071136
>>377070984

who is this girl again?
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>>377069140
>wait 3 days for a game to download
Holy shit, the flashbacks... I don't ever want to go back. Optic fiber Internet, just 30 min wait for a game.
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>>377078016
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>>377075857
She won because she was fucking one of the judges
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>>377078219
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why is there so many multiplayer games on an RPG LIST?!!?!?!?!?!?!?? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I don't see anything wrong with GI's list.

I'd have put Oblivion or Morrowind ahead but Skyrim is still good.
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>>377077843
>>377077765
>>377077483
>>377077276
>>377077115
>>377076795
>>377076728
>>377076469
>>377076252

This magazine issue was fucking trash.
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>>377078353
The list is garbage, but there's no problem with a multiplayer game beimg considered a role playing game. Traditional tabletop is multiplayer, after all.
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>>377078481
So Horizon zero dawn is an RPG?
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>>377078325
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>>377078538
but fucking destiny! c'mon
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>>377078568
>13. Torment
>12. Fallout 3
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>>377078568

almost

there
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>>377067918
I live 20 minutes away from Game Informer HQ, don't worry anon I will defend your honor by staring angrily at it.
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>>377068293
I thought it was fun. It was a great world to explore early on and it definitely instilled a sense of grandeur that mods were able to renew after 50 to 60 hours of play time. It's not really a good game to go back and play now because it's not going to be my first play-through again, and I think that fact plus its popularity (that keeps it in the spotlight) is what draws so much hate.
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>>377067918
>Skyrim #1
fucking based,how many times /v/ has to be BTFO to finally understand that their weeb games can eat shit and die
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>>377078690

can you feel it
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>>377077765
>>377078568
>Fallout NV 36
>Fallout 3 12
Why?
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>>377068979
Just goes to show how shit the genre really is.
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>>377078629
It's fucking game informer. The entire motivation behind the content is selling subscriptions and games at game stop. Even people that play vidya all day every day argue about what it means to be a real RPG. Can you really expect anything good from some stupid top 100 list? It's not like God wrote it or anything.
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>>377078857

don't worry, we're almost done
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Stay mad /V/
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>>377069080
I guess you use Second Life real seriously huh
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>>377077452
>mention how Origins is shit in the description for Inquisition

>>377078016
>Origins places higher
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>>377067918
they play games all the time, check out their super replay stuff
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>>377078560
Never played it or really saw much other than the webms posted here. Is there customization in gear, stats/perks, character play styles? Can you level up? I'm not gonna get into a meme war here.

I really like The Elder Scrolls. The game play has it's pros and cons with each game but the one thing that I really like and that keeps me coming back is the world itself. Not even getting into deep lore, it's the only rpg franchise that personally appeals to me and I don't know why TES does but most others don't really do much for me (with exceptions of course).
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>>377078974
>Final Fantasy 6 at #2
This is honestly a bigger crime than Skyrim at #1
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>>377075857
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>>377079348
Is the best final fantasy you fucking underage faggot
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KIKES ARE JEWS
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And we out.
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>>377073191

I liked Risen and disliked Skyrim and even I'm not sure if I'd be willing to call Risen a better game.
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Here's my top 5
1) Tibia
2) Diablo 2
3) Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
4) Super Mario RPG Legend7Stars
5) Final Fantasy X

>90'/Male/Mex
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>>377079453
sup reddit
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>>377079243
It's because you have shit taste.

You're the mental manlet that the manlet makes his low hanging fruit game for.
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>>377078974
>>377079512

This list makes absolute no sense at all. It seems like they gathered well liked "RPG" titles, sorted them randomly and then made few swaps based on their own opinions (like Skyrim #1)
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>>377076795
>>377076469
>>377076252
>>377077115
>>377077276
>>377077483
>>377077765
>>377077843
>>377078016

>Nobody was fired and discredited for this pile of intellectual vomit and discredited to the point they'll never work in video games ever again.
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>>377067918
It's a good game but not a great game. To have it anywhere near the top 25 is fucking crazy. I hope there are people that know that GameStop owns Game informer and practically Schills the latest releases as masterpieces when they are not. Also it's their fault for adding in exclusivity physicals by threatening to use Game informer to write these complains games a shit review.

I am glad GameStop is dying soon so that way we never have to hear from Game informer either. Best Buy or even Walmart is better, hell even Amazon is better to buy from as well. At least they care enough to not try to fuck everyone in the process.
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>>377079512
>#0 is D&D

For all this list's faults, this is actually a really nice touch
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>All the butthurt /v/irgins in this glorious thread

Too bad your obscure isometric roguelike didn't get a mention you shit-eating neckbeards.

Keep the tears flowing. Loving every laugh.
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>>377079512
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>>377079512

DnD isn't even the best table top. You bring that shit to /tg/ and they'd have an aneurysm
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>>377079512
>#0: Dungeons & Dragons
Oh, fuck off.
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>>377079396
fire up the ovens
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>>377079634
Yeah, that's somewhat redemptive to me. I'm guessing they more or less got forced to make a list that would sell games on shelves, and some real RPG nut at the office made sure this bit got in there.
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I never played skyrim
Should i buy it?
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>>377079243
Then you have a personal bias and a fuking casual to boot if you actually think Skyrim deserves to be number one. Skyrim is wide as an ocean but as shallow as a pond
>The same generic enemies over and over again
>The main villain plan makes no sense and you have no personal connection to him other than him inexplicitly saving you by accident
>I'm gonna resurrect all the dragon to take back skyrim or eat the world but have absolutely no plan or organization in mind so hey won't be running around like idiots.
>The side quests are shallower as a kiddy pool especially the guild quests
>hey random dude who just join our guild please lead us after doing 5 missions for us.
>The world is as static and dry as a desert nothing you do matters even if you kill the emperor no one is out hunting for his killer no reward for information.
>b-but muh mods
You shouldn't have to mod a game for it to be good
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>>377079852
>>377079634

D&D is the skyrim of pen and paper.
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>>377079938
It's basically Fallout 4 without guns
of course you should buy it
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>>377079938
Skyrimâ„¢ is very fun, you should also try these games in the image
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why are you guys spurging this hard about one list out of billions of lists
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My favorite part is that they didn't even bother to write more about the higher rated games ... they just made the pictures take up more space so the spot seems more important.
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>>377077483

This is legit a terrible fucking list.

Like over half of them aren't even rpgs.

I'm not autistic, but damn it's making me want to screech like one
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>>377080507
We should make a list of respectable video games lists
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>>377079952

And for a good portion of Skyrim, I didn't play with mods. Hell, I only did the main quest once to get it done because I spend all of my time actually rping in the game. And after over a hundred hours of vanilla, I put mods in to tweak things.

Also, look at my first post, I said the other games in the series could be ahead of Skyrim because I've played those games for thousands of hours as well.
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>>377078568

Good God. Blood bornes an all right game but fuck I never once thought of it as a rpg. Fuck this gay earth.
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Wasnt undertale #1 rpg of all time like... last year?

Who the fuck makes these lists and why do people take them seriously?
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>>377080781

Kek, that is funny
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>>377076252
>>377076469
>>377076728
>>377076795
>>377077115
Might as well have called it "Top 100 most popular RPGs of all time", because that is all this is
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>>377069818
DC kinosseur detected
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>>377067918
>As a kid, I used to buy Game Informer Magazine religiously

What happened?
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>>377068472
if its 5/10, then fallout 3/NV are 4/10's, the dark souls series gets a 2, and witcher tries hard for a 3.
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>>377070984
>SHE
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>>377076795
>Monster hunter
No way that's an RPG.
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>>377078857
ME3 over W3, k den.
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>>377079567
Pretty much this, how in the hell can you rank Persona 3 near the beginning and Persona 4 near the end and Persona 5 at 19?

Also what makes it strange was how all the great games were mainly in the beginning and then near the end a few good ones were there. It's just pandering at it's finest.
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Name one any RPG they could have realistically put at #1 that wouldn't trigger /v/.

Hard Mode: No Chrono Trigger.
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I'd like to make a top 100 RPGs but just take out all of the RPGs and make it the "top 10 games gameinformer thinks are RPGs"
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>>377082634
Ultima 7
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>>377082634
FF VI or FF VII, coming from someone who thinks IX is the best
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>>377082634
Iunno, black ops 2.
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>>377082634
Fallout 2
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>>377081462
People who should be interns but sat on a dick for promotions.
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>>377082634

New Vegas, Bloodlines, BG2, Planescape: Torment, morrowind
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>>377082634

Planescape Torment.

Maybe Morrowind or Deus Ex.
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>>377082634
Something Japanese and on the Vita
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>was near unanimous GOTY in its year
>Game Informer #1 RPG of all time
>when taking data where many Japanese devs are asked what it the most influential video game to them, they say it's Skyrim, not some weeb shit
>also has immense fan support with more mods than any other game
>10th best selling video game of all time
>makes /v/irgins and their cult leaders like Superbunnyhop, Matthewmattosis, etc. bitter at its success
>80% of its haters will probably buy the next TES game anyway

There really isn't another game that can be called the GOAT like Skyrim.
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>>377082634
Deus Ex
Fallout 2 or New Vegas
Planetscape Torment
An RPG no one has ever heard about
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>>377083141

Popularity =/= good
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>>377083250
usually, this is not the case

Popularity usually indicated something is enjoyable on a simple fundamental level, meaning the appeal is undeniable. Even though there are always cases that go against this act, it is much more common for popularity to show a game is, at the very least, "good."

However, just because something is good, that doesn't mean it is great.

Popularity = good

Popularity =/= great
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>>377068293
Because its not actually a good RPG in the same vein as Mass effect isnt either.
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>>377068207
FPBP
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>>377076292
Radiant quests where repeatable quests you get from guilds which had cookie cutter objectives like "go to x dungeon and bring back x item" the x's being randomized each time. The minor objectives like you mentioned aren't radiant and are just canned fetch quest shit. Unfortunately because they can put "unlimited quests!" on the back of the box, they don't bother putting actually interesting or well put together quests in the game anymore. Fallout 4 especially hit pretty hard by this.
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>>377070201
>the mob is always right
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>>377067918
>millions of articles about video games
>obsess about a single (one) articles

it's literally just a bunch of words on the internet
stop elevating is status

this post never would have happened
if it wasn't for you
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>>377083250
This is beyond popularity my boy, it's influence and touching people in ways your shitty obscure weeb game never could. It's inspiring people that make your shitty obscure weeb games to make shitty obscure weeb games.

It's like Superman, or Jesus of video games.
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>>377067918
>skyirm
>rpg

Pick none
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Of all time? I don't know about that. Its always way too subjective with so many games


That and, Skyrim was and still is an amazing game. People just hate to hear it
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>>377085296
>talk about any other article
>wow why are you talking about an (one) article
>you must be talking about all articles at once or you're obsessing
woah
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>>377071812
>look at music
O-ok
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Weebs blown out.
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>>377067918
>Ever giving attention the gaming ((press))
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>>377085786
>skyrim
>amazing

It's a fucking theme park built solely to clap for you like a mother would for her hopelessly retarded child when he finally gets his turd in the toilet.
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>>377070678
Except Skyrim did not have near as much original book content as say, Daggerfall. Even Morrowind.
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>>377077276
Shadow Hearts Covenant is below Fable 2.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THIS
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>>377068254
>>377068293
>being a young fag born after 9/11

I feel sorry for you. Not because of your shit vidya taste, but because you didn't experience a world pre 9/11
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>>377079567
Seconded. Except replace "random" with "oh we should endorse a few of these because a publisher paid us to"
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>>377079634
Problem is that if you're going to pay homage to a game that influenced a lot of other games on the list, shouldn't Game Informer be ranking Morrowind (or even Daggerfall) as #1? Skyrim is basically Morrowind redux.
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>>377076795
> castlevania SOTN an RPG

I guess any game that has a leveling system is considered an rpg now.
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>>377087029
to much water ~ some faggot a few years ago
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>>377068293
Fallout new vegas does everything better
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>>377078974
>VI at number 2
>IV at number 23
>IX not even on that list
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>>377087870
except bugs
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>>377067918
So nobody mentions that they put DnD tapletop at posistion 0 as a nod saying it's above skyrim? The list was actually a top 101 with Dungeons and Dragons (Tabletop) as the "real" number one.
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>>377088304
>>377079512
>>
Holy shit. If this was bait I'd say it was very well crafted
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>>377067918
Isn't Game Informer located in the Midwest. I rarely agree with their video game opinions but their podcast isn't half bad.
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honestly it's fair
like it or not, Skyrim wins at being the most popular, changed games after it, and is still pretty good
only other games that probably deserved to be at 1 are probably dark souls or final fantasy 7
still pretty disappointing Nocturne isn't anywhere on a 100 list
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>>377067918

Not surprising, considering this is the publication that snubbed the Souls series every year during their GOTY awards. Sure they give the games decent scores, but without fail the series gets nary an award, while whatever Bioware or Bethesda shits out gets heaps of awards.
>>
what deserved #1
>>
>>377089048

Witcher 3
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>>377082634
Baldur's Gate
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>no Shining Force
>no Golden Sun
>no Sword of Mana
Objectively shit tier list
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>>377082634
runescape before the gower brothers got muscled out of jagex by jews
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>>377089048
Chrono trigger
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>>377089048
The judging factors are too vague to ever really declare one.

Now if they removed the numbering and simply wanted to group games like "Best JRPGs/WRPGs of the 90s/00s/10s" or "Most influential rpgs of their respective decades" then I could get behind a title like Skyrim being listed at the top. Because while I intensely dislike what Skyrim as a game represented (that putting effort into an RPG is not worth it, simply make it wide as an ocean but shallow as a puddle and hype it to death and we'll do just fine), I won't deny that is wildly influential. Just... negatively.

In a more positive vein, FF7 to the late 90s, early 00s. The data and industry history shows that FF7 so dramatically affected the fortunes of jrpgs and their positive reception that I could easily see it topping a list of influence. So many games got the greenlight to be made or localized based purely off of the insane goodwill that FF7 bought that genre.
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>>377070749
Is that fuckin swaglord
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>>377068254
No game that is as buggy or unpolished as Skyrim or FO4 deserves a 9 or 10. Bethesda gets a free pass with the exception of that recent IGN Prey review but they only published that not developed.

Lets not forget the PS3 had a game breaking bug in Skyrim where performance would slowly deteriorate after 60-80+ hours of gameplay until your save file became unplayable. Unless you think single digit FPS is playable. This was also never patched but funny how this was hardly mentioned from the big review sites.
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>>377068293
It's an absolutely hollow openworld game with pretenses of being an RPG where EVERYTHING (from the combat to the voice acting) feels wooden
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>>377068254
>>377068293
Contrarians and nostalgiafags that can't deal with the fact that games moved on.
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>>377079549
Tibia is the reason I hate Brazil, Poland and most third world countries to this day.

CIP is almost as inept as Ubisoft and EA but on a singular game scale
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>>377089625
>best quests
>best in game shops
>flexible combat options
>flexible apparel/weapon options
>interesting skills
>castle wars
>wildy
>lose your shit if you get rekt

Name one flaw with runescape
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>>377076469
>Bloodlines at 98
>Destiny at 81
What kind of fucking cocksleve wrote this list?
>XCOM
WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK? HOW IS THIS A RPG!?
>>377077276
>Pokemon Gold&Silver, a RPG
>>377078568
>Planescape: Torment loosing to Fallout 3
These fucking fucks.
>>377078690
>World of Warcraft
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>>377092903
Jews.
The poor gower brothers souls were destroyed by what happened to jagex and to runescape.
There's an interview with them about it for the 15 year documentary.
The stock market was a fucking mistake.
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>>377068254
WHAT THE FUCK? IT WAS SHIT EVEN WHEN IT WAS RELEASED. ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED OR WHAT? IT'S WORSE THAN OBLIVION WHICH WAS SHIT AS WELL. THE LAST GOOD ELDER SCROLLS GAME WAS DAGGERFALL.
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I just read this issue while I was on the shitter, and knew that after seeing chrono trigger at 3 and FF6 at 2, that some straight garbage would be at 1

but lets not forget that they put trash like horizon and breath of the wild (LOL), as well as fucking mass effect 3 on the god damn list to begin with

you could tell the list was going to end with a real stinker
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>>377090285
FF7 is basically the michael jordan of rpgs, you can argue its merits and how it stacks up to other games that in comparison may be more underrated, but at the end of the day no one can deny its impact and the fact that it basically revolutionized how rpgs were viewed
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>3 fucking persona games on the list
>not a single god damn SMT mainline title is on the list
really fires my yamato perpetual reactor
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>>377068254
Story too shallow, scaling too fucked to be a good RPG, combat too clumsy, exploration too boring to be a good adventure game. Even mods have a hard time turning it into a good anything other than fetish simulator.
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>>377067918
Such broad lists are generally useless because it always just comes down to popular games vs the classics.
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>>377068254
>>377068293
That's what i think. For me Skyrim is the best game of all time hands down, not perfect, at all, but only because you can install mods for it, mods that fix stuff in it and of course mods that add tons of stuff too. Without them it's a solid 8/10. I remember when /v/ called it the blunder of the century when it was released and i was like "the fuck are these faggots talking about?".

Since then, if /v/ calls a game a blunder, for me it means "i need to check it out".
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>>377094423
You're either 12 or mentally underdeveloped to not see all the flaws Skyrim has. And it has a fuckton.
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