>"HEY GUYS LOOK AT HOW EDGY AND UNPREDICTABLE OUR NEW

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>>377051295
Who defends this scene?

From what accusation?

Cucked to death.

Who'd win a fight: Trevor, Donte or The Joker?

>>377051295
people pick on this scene but the whole game had similar thematic problems. an uncharacteristically sub-par script from the housers.

>>377051445
Trevor - intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor

>>377051295
Because the kids like it

Because I like it.

>>377051295
He's the very definition of a sociopath

>>377051295
why are boring people on the offence this day.
nobody cares what you thin fag

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>>377051445
Le Joker

>>377051460
it's still miles better than GTA IV and /v/ loves GTAIV

I love how he's not racist though and is disturbed by those guys trying to deport Mexicans. That was just ridiculous. He should be racist as hell.

>>377051363
>From what accusation?

blatant character assassination as a desperate attempt to build up Trevor as a character

immediately going from being badass enough to break INTO prison to murder somebody and cutting off all contact with Ashley to suddenly being a pathetic meth-addicted bitch and desperately in love with Ashley again makes no sense whatsoever

>>377051831
lol, no

>>377051901
it's true friendo

>>377051831
haha, no

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It was Johnny's fault for continuing to do drugs.

Are you still butthurt about this scene? Johnny was a junkie and if it wasn't Trevor he'd have OD'd in his own piss and vomit

I really wanted someone to beat the shit out of Trevor all game. Fucking hate forced Mary Sue characters.

>>377051831
you mean the script? the script of GTA IV is phenomenal, could have been a movie. the gameplay however is another story.

>>377052271
>Mary Sue character
> trevor
haha
you read something stupid every day on this board

>>377052357
>the script of GTA IV is phenomenal
no, it had some of the most sloppy writing R* ever did.

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Was it ever confirmed that Johnny was killed?
Its possible he could have survived with a concussion.

>>377052394
He is a Mary Sue in terms of GTA. Everyone's afraid of him, he is seen as a dangerous demigod who can't be killed, he basically dominates the fuck out of everyone.

I love this scene. Rockstar made this specifically to trigger you contrarian faggots who pretend to think GTA IV is better. Can't wait till they make Niko a crossdressing homsexual.

>>377052521
are you retarded?

>>377051460
>uncharacteristically sub-par
This is very much in character for the Housers, they aren't good writers.
They hid it well in the old days because the graphics and gameplay were just as crude, but now they're using cutting edge technology to bring their shitty movie ripoffs to life

>>377051295
I saw it and didn't care much about this scene. Why does anybody care about this scene?

>>377052394
He's a "le wacky randum xd" character that does a whole bunch of horrible shit and noone calls him out on it. At least Tommy didn't pretend to be sympathetic

>>377052554
>Everyone's afraid of him
franklin isn't.

>>377051295
I thought the scene was fine. Kill off a character that will never be used again and that the player probably has some connection to in order to put over a new one.
It's like the cycle of life, dood.

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>switch to Trevor
>he's phoneposting on 4chan

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>>377052521
His brain got stuck to Trevors shoe. Gonna need more than mommies kisses to fix that boo-boo.

>>377052669
>Housers
lel. they're not writing the games, heck, they don't do anything more in the company.
how the fuck can you be so stupid?

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>>377052623
p-pls no bully

>>377052498
which parts specifically?

>>377052907
GTA IV and V were written by Dan Houser and Rupert Humphries. I'm not sure how writing the games counts as "not doing anything".

>>377052936
aw i'm sorry buddy, let's be friends

>>377052985
the characters and their background.
niko's supposed be from bosnia/serbia, yet the name is almost non existant in those parts, his surename is written with fucking to L's, and his cousin who goes out bowling with is called Roman, also a non existent name in the balkans.

As a developer known for it's detailed depiction of the contemporary world, these are huge mistakes, and it's their fucking main character too.

>>377053417
Nicola is pretty common in serbia.

>>377053417
That's some nitpick shit.

>>377053417
So if i change the names the game becomes the best GTA game?

>>377053660
Nikola, yes. But Niko, no. Nobody even calls the Nikola's Niko.
>>377053669
It's a pretty big thing when it's about your main character and the biggest side character. It's not just their flavor background. The whole east slav community depicted in the game is wrong, like all the slavs hanging out together and shit. That couldn't be farther from the truth.

>biker
>Not falling back into drugs and getting killed over stupid shit
I don't know why this is considered unrealistic

>>377053417
that's not writing, that's planning. i asked for examples about why the writing is sloppy and you have provided none because you don't know of any.

>>377053956
Yeah, and have you ever heard of a black guy named Franklin? GTA V has the worst writing.

>>377051295
We don't defend it, we just laugh at everyone that's autistic enough to bitch about it.

>>377053956
Huh, I always just assumed Niko was just short for Nikola.

>>377051860
it makes sense because bikers are pathetic losers

>>377054083
yeah gta v VEEEEEE

>>377054083
Knew one in elementary school.

the people who like johnny are the people who unironically join GTA MCs

>>377054083
>have you ever heard of a black guy named Franklin?

Yes more then one actually

>>377051834
the point is trevors a hipster. theres an entire discussion about it between micheal and him. the point is trevor is trying to be SO different and indifferent hes going beyond your regular hipster and mustached asshole to being completely fucking crazy and psycho.

its heavily implied trevor puts it all on as an act to avoid having to deal with his actual feelings

>>377054217
>Fucking Nikofags, get off my board REEEEEEEEE

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>>377054268
I have one kid who tries so fucking edgy. He complains that GTA V needs to more Realistic

>>377054058
oh and what, a rags to riches story is some feat in writing? Come on dude. And yes, it is writing. The main theme is that he came to a new country and left the old one. You can imagine how crappy the conversations about the "old country" are in the game, and how much better they could've been if the characters were more defined.

>>377053417
to be fair a lot of names from Balkan would be weird to the rest of the world. We have Russian names like Vladimir, Igor, Aleksandar etc, some global names like Marko or Stefan, but the ones that characterize us are really old fashioned like Dragoljub, Miroljub, Milorad etc. I have a feeling they wanted something unique but not old-fashioned and didn't really know what to choose so they made it up

>>377054474
This isn't a fucking fable fairy godmother. We don't need to know that shit. I think most of us has played all endings

>>377054474
no, the main theme is that he's looking for a man who betrayed his military unit during the bosnian war. the character interactions dealt largely with their new life in liberty city as opposed to discussing the old country, which happened maybe three times, if you count the e-mail from niko's mother. just want you to know i've played this game at least 8 times so if you want to discuss the script make sure you know what you're talking about.

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MY N-WORD
AHHHHHHHH
HAHAAA

>>377054640
but niko could've been russian, it isn't even important to the story. I don't get why they didn't make him just russian, cause that's what they had in mind obviously. I guess they wanted to avoid "the russian mob guy" stereotype, but imo they made things even worse.

>>377052793 You a wrestling fan?

>>377051295

Why do people defend that jew cuck?

>>377051295
Houser is a hack.

>>377054739
wait, I thought niko betrayed the military unit?

>>377054832
maybe but albanians are a big plot point in GTA 4 so it seems like they decided to go specifically with ex-yugoslavia, not russia. Whether they decided that early on in development or later who knows

>>377055014
?

>>377054452
it really could. in gta 4 there was a difference between the beater versions and the regular versions of cars. you could feel the difference n the floppy ruined suspension, a distinctive handling difference.

in 5 every car handles exactly the same and the only difference is top speed and acceleration, nothing else. not to mention being able to damage the car and get different damage effects. in 5 its just "cop magically taps rear of vehicle and script turns your own wheels hard left/right"

Trevor is the worst part about GTA 5.

I see people shit on GTA 5 saying it's a bad game but i disagree, i think it's pretty decent and if trevor didn't exist, and the game was just about franklin meeting michael and doing jobs together it would have been great.

>>377054739
No, I'm saying none of us need to know that

>>377053417
The Serbo-Croatian that the characters speak in-game is horrid and barely intelligible for native speakers (at least for me)
>>377054640
u jebote,zar stvarno ima ljudi sa ovih prostora da browsaju /v/?

>>377055014
it was darko

fucking darko

>>377054184
and childish methheads are such great influencers

>>377054640
he could be croatian. there's at least one croatian footballer named niko. and since hrvatski is very similar to srpski i'm guessing there's at least one serbian named niko.

>>377055237
ima
više nego što bi očekivao

>>377051834
Being a serial killer and a rapist is okay, but racism is going too far.

>>377051834
He's a leaf, probably voted for Trudeau

>>377051295
>Why does anybody defend this scene?
Trevor is cute.

>>377051831
this is true. People shit on V because it's the newest one, once VI comes out people will pretend they've always loved V the most, like they did with IV.

>>377054876
it's not really a problem of defending johnny as a person

he's much more well written than trevor, but the problem here is how they resorted to killing him just to make old players be told that trevor is a crazy guy that will do random shit when he feels like doing it. they could've used a random character on this scene and nobody would've complained.

They seemed to do this a lot of times in GTA V/O. Any returning character from IV and its episodes are either killed or humiliated for no reason. U.L. Paper Guy makes two random cameos then is treated like a random NPC you can kill, Brucie becomes a bad joke (at least they cut a mission that would've ruined his character even more), Karen is just an annoying bitch rather than a manipulative woman who managed to fool a cold ex-soldier like Niko, Rocco is just there to get beat for no reason (funny how they completely ignore he's related to the mob, which is why Luis didn't kill him in TBOGT, but apparently michael doing it is fine and has no repercussions), and a few others I can't remember right now. The least ruined character was Packie, but they had to make him a fucking optional sacrifice.

>>377055237
uvijek mi je drago kad vidim nase ljude van smrdljivog /pol/a

>>377051295
fits nicely with the rest of that garbage story

>>377055680
TFW Trevor's actor is actually fucking ripped

>>377055604
see
>>377054313

its the joke. being a serial killer, and rapist, AND racist would be sterotypical. hes trying to be hipster as fuck. notice when he saves that guy he tortured, he dosent put much effort into it? just pushes a bleeding, passportless, moneyless dude into the airport and drives off? he dosent ACTUALLY care, its for appearences

>>377051295
Nobody needs to defend GTA5, you can silence any and all criticisms just by showing how many copies it sold

(the answer is more than practically every AAA release combined yearly since release)

>>377055731
god I would have dropped this so hard if Packie was killed

>>377056336
>hurr it sold well therefore it means its a high quality product
gta 5 only sold so much because of the hype it had and the weight the grand theft auto brand has
>>377056667
it's actually pretty sad if you hear the dialogue
https://youtu.be/p1aKTszQD5k?t=317

>>377055294
It's called being pussy whipped.

>>377056336
Kardashians also sell well, you gonna tell me it's a good show.

>>377056770
>because of the hype
>only one trailer was released
we're not talking here about nintendo you know. R* doesn't generate hype with paid articles and screenshots/trailers

>>377057065
literally talking bullshit there
i don't care about what nintendo does, but the hype for gta 5 was fucking insane. trailer 1 was almost a complete scripted lie and everyone ate that up and crucified ubisoft back in 2014 when they decided to try it.

trailer 2 made people even more insane. if you think gta 5 had no hype, you clearly don't know what you're saying. go look up the views on youtube.

>>377052521
>>377052623
>>377052798
How many gunshots can Johnny survive in GTAIV? He's fine.

He is a canadian hipster who pretends to be a redneck.

His whole character is that he is trying to be as edgy as possible. Good job missing the whole point of him.

>>377056828
The kardashians don't actually sell all that well. Ratings != sales.

It's still an enjoyable show though, you would know, you've watched it more than I have.

>>377057332
>N-no you

Your bait's not that good

>>377051295
Why do you care, fag?

>>377051295
Kill yourself OP you autistic piece of shit.

>>377057521
You replied, therefore my bait was more than enough for your small mind. Anything more and you would've simply left the thread in desperation due to having your shitty world view getting called out.

Come visit, we'll watch the kkk's together.

>>377056336
like the bible!

>>377058123
Well yeah, the Bible is an insanely valuable text that influenced most of western culture, is the major text of one of the largest religions in the world and contains a stupid amount of valuable lessons. Everyone ought to read it at least once.

Did that honestly seem like it was going to make gta's sales seem less important somehow?

Didnt make sense Johnny would be there, he redeemed himself at the end of GTA4, so he shouldnt be caught up in drugs and crime and stuff. Can nobody be a good guy in rockstar games, I was really sad after this scenario and never really liked Trevor after that.

Trevor also ruins his cousin's life, that annoyed me.

>>377051295
I was more upset about the rest of The Lost being killed. Johnny was always a lil bitch.

>>377056119
How is that funny though

>>377058857
nice dodge. it said " you can silence any and all criticisms just by showing how many copies it sold"

nah, im gonna criticize any book that claims god created the tide before the fucking moon

>>377057214
>trailer 1 was almost a completely scripted lie
What you talking about? Where was a "lie", even 1?

>>377060674
trevor himself is a joke. like not, a funny haha joke, a fucking joke like "meth addict addled loser" joke. hes presents himself as this big crazy sociopath but hes not.

>>377060902
Sure, but the difference is the Bible is a religious text. GTA V is a commercial product, an insanely successful one. It achieved its goal, so criticism is kind of pointless

>>377051295
>LOOK AT ME IM TREVOR SO WACKY WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB

>>377060674
It's a standard criminal with principles act. Like when a murderer tells someone to not swear. It's the contrast between normal social standards and psychotic actions.

>>377051834
He fucks dogs, inanimate objects, and both males and females.
Color of someone's skin is the least of his morals.

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Why didn't Johnny just drop his pants for Trevor?

>>377055689
You know it's never the same people claiming that they loved the previous one? When gta6 comes out I'll still think that 5 was fucking awful and I probably won't even bother with 6 given how absolutely boring 5 was. Really hope they don't fuck up red dead redemption 2.

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>worst main character
>worst game
>worst girlfriend
>worst motivation
being johnny was suffering
none of the other GTA protags got killed like a bitch

>>377052521
>take control of trevor
>immediately run over the bitch and johnny
>last mission before heading to los santos
>the Lost picked up his body and are going to bury it back in liberty city

>>377062072
>.gif

Webm please.

>>377051295
the whole point of the lost and damned was that The Lost were a bunch of out of touch dinosaurs being led by a drug addicted psycho, the whole story is meant to be really poignant and everyone but a few get wiped out. it's like the pinnacle of all the edginess and "drama" that plagues GTA4 as a whole

it's still really shitty what they did because it's super out of character for johnny to be into meth and all that and it basically ruins the story of the dlc by shitting all over him, but what can ya do
it's rockstar's game and character, if it bothers you so much then just kill trevor at the end

>>377052681
tommy is one of the best vidya sociopaths ever

>>377062072
>>worst game
only underage and/or subhuman minorities hold this objectively wrong opinion

>>377062072
I dunno I think all 3 of the gta5 protags were worse. That game has AWFUL characters.

>>377061486
so is the bible. i said most sold, that dosent count free copies the gideons hand out. we talking annotated, childrens easy reads, picture books, sold ones.

>>377062353
Every other GTA was better than TLAD
>hurr bikers
>hurr we're tough because we wear leather and ride loud bicycles

GTA games are terrible and pander to plebs by being contrarian
its like rick and morty, plebs just eat that contrarian bullshit like its crack

>>377062397

I blame it on the story moving far too quickly once all 3 characters come together. There should have been much more individual story arcs for the 3 of them. Once they all meet, it's just group missions until the end.

>>377062470
>terrible
what is your idea of a good game? and don't dodge the fucking question.

>>377051295
The writers were too fucking obsessed with that fag.

>>377051860
>immediately
isn't it like 10 years after GTA IV or something?

>>377052907
>GTA4
>written by Dan Houser and Rupert Humphries
>GTA5
>written by Dan Houser and Rupert Humphries
>RDR
>written by Dan Houser Michael Unsworth and Christian Cantamessa
>MP3
>written by Dan Houser Michael Unsworth and Rupert Humphries
It must be nice being retarded, I bet you don't even notice all the people making fun of you and doing funny impressions of the retarded things you say

>>377062585
I wouldn't even say that there was a story. For the most part the story in that game seems like an excuse to string together a bunch of missions they came up with. It's like the polar opposite to 4 where they had all those boring as fuck missions that only served to help tell the story.

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>>377051831
>>377052357
>>377052498
>script of GTA IV
>good
GTA IV has an uninteresting script for a mainline GTA game. The characters lacks charisma compared to Tommy or CJ. It was more serious and too little wacky compared to the last 2 games, maybe even to III.

VC
>Son, I could shoot a fly off your head at a hundred feet. I learnt it in the army.
>Fly shooting popular in the army? Glad I don't pay tax.

>Hey if Leo knows you've got his phone he'll kill you.
>Maybe Leo's already dead. Maybe I killed Leo and took his phone. You ever think of that, prick?

SA
>All you had to do was follow the damn train CJ
>I'll have 2 number nines, a number 9 large
>Does the pope shit in the woods?

IV
>War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the older and bitter into killing each other
>You know, if there is one thing that I have learned, it is that we must obey the rules of the game. We can pick the game, Niko Bellic. But we cannot change the rules.

IV is depressing compared to the others.

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I don't care about Johnny but I'm still pissed at what he did to Floyd and Debra. watching Trevor burn alive in one of the ending was so satisfying.

>>377062846
ya, being Slavic is depressing as hell.

>>377062835

You know, thinking back on IV, and then again on V, I really wish they'd had done another one of those vicariously intertwined stories again, but more detailed and involved amongst the 3 characters. It was way more clever, more interesting, and I wouldn't have minded at all if they had revolved a whole game around those again to much greater detail.

>>377062470
GTA 5 is awful but rick and Morty is GOAT. It's like Futurama but funnier.

That's a common opinion too so if anything you're the contrarian for disagreeing.

>>377062761
dan and rupert seem to be the problem

>>377062624
good gameplay

>>377062719
5 years, but Johnny got notably weaker and skinnier due to meth.

Meanwhile, Trevor is loaded up on speed.

>>377062846

V was such a bad mix of wacky / seriousness.

I really wish they'd go back to how VC / SA were writing-wise.

>>377063021
all the kids like minions too, so if you disagree your contrarian

>>377063180
I guess so, yeah? I've never watched it so I don't have an opinion. You're the one who started calling things contrarian in the first place, not me.

>>377062404
Are you seriously arguing the point of the Bible is to be a commercial product and sell copies? Are you retarded? And most sold includes the ones they sell for like 5 cents all sorts of places, the majority of Bibles are free or effectively free, because it's not a commercial product. A children's version of the Bible is not a bible, it's a book based on it.

>>377062470
refunded gta 5 after the first mission was you playing as a literal nigger and stealing cars

>>377063086
how old are you? speed is another name for meth

>>377063332
technically, everyone loves gta 5, based on sales, so saying gta is awful is contrarian

ya contrarian

>>377063343
yes
> And most sold includes the ones they sell for like 5 cents all sorts of places, the majority of Bibles are free or effectively free, because it's not a commercial product
uh, we excluded that, i mentioned it in the post. im talking about bibles sold from bookstores for profit. i could list it again: kids easy reads, picture books, gold plated ones...

>>377063470
A bible picture book is not a bible, that's my whole fucking point, it's something loosely based on it. An actual Bible is not a commercial product, it's not intended to be, and I really doubt you'd find anywhere that counts things that are objectively not Bibles in the sales of them. If a charity sells Bibles for 50c each, that doesn't make it a commercial product, it just means they don't want people just taking all of them for no reason.

Some luxury version of a bible you'd have as point, but I really doubt those sell that much at all.


You're comparing a religious text to fucking GTA V, a product designed to make money. GTA is hard to criticise seriously because it's an insanely success, it achieved its goal better than pretty much any other game out there.

The Bible potentially selling lots of copies isn't it's goal, it's goal is to spread the word of Christ, and it would be stupid to criticise Bibles as a whole. You could criticise the words in it (though you'd be retarded to use "wow if you interpret this literally it doesn't make sense" as your argument), but not Bibles themselves.

You could criticise a feature in GTA, but it would be pointless, as that feature resulted in its insane success.

>>377053417
From wikipedia, Serbian variants of "Nicholas", which include Niko

>Serbian: Hикoлa (Nikola), Hикoлaј (Nikolaj), Hикoдијe (Nikodije), Кoдa (Koda), Кoлe (Kole), Hикшa (Nikša),Hикoлицa (Nikolica), Hикшицa (Nikšica), Hикo (Niko), Hикицa (Nikica)

>>377056119
no, the reason is that characters can be sadistic, violent sociopaths and still be redeemable/likeable in the public eye but racism is the line that can't be crossed for a protagonist