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>game comes out >people praise it >game gets cracked

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>game comes out
>people praise it
>game gets cracked
>people hate it
Who is in the right? Buyfags(wageslaves) or pirates(real gamers)
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but I pirated it and I loved it
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I didn't purchase or pirate, so I can't say.
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>game comes out
>people praise it
>contrarians can't stand for this
>people hate it
>all threads are ruined forever by shitposting retards
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>>377040092
>Post Purchase Rationalization is a cognitive bias whereby someone who has purchased an expensive product or service overlooks any faults or defects in order to justify their purchase.
> It is a special case of choice-supportive bias.
>For example, a consumer cannot decide between two popular video games [...] However, they do not wish to feel they made the wrong decision, and so will attempt to convince themselves, and their peers, that their original choice was the correct one
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Maybe the dumbest op of the day. Great game however you got your hands on it.
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Pirates are social parasites who just want to ____ 2B, ____ on her ____, be _____ by her and ___ her _______.
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I recently got it gifted to me and haven't been able to put it down. I love it, but I wish the level design wasn't so lackluster, it just looks like a generic destroyed anime city with buildings you can't really enter despite having holes in them.

You can see where they put in the effort when looking at the art design and animation. The combat feels like it's been pulled directly from MGR and the map is fucking annoying with the excuse that 'it's just the way it is, go explore, lol'.

The flight suit bits are a bit arcadey but it's otherwise a solid beat em up.

>Beta male character
This. Cannot. Continue.
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>>377040092
Honestly what exactly daoes wageslave mean?
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Wheres the MEGA?
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>>377040092
i always hated it and i'm a buyfag i still got a sweet ass emil shirt from it so not even that mad
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>>377041219
it means person that works.
Think of it like cis.
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pirates are pCucks and therefore ALWAYS wrong
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>>377040092
>Pirates
>Real gamer

Fishing for yous, eh
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People who buy games want filler crap to get their moneys worth, people who pirate don't want fluff and actually care about quality of the content. It's not a hard concept.
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>>377041180
>using the word "arcadey" as a shortcoming
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>>377041219
Someone who buys their own tendies instead of making their mommies buy their tendies for them
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There's really two schools of thought

Reviews on Amazon.com where the reviewer received the product for free, for instance, are typically disregarded because someone doesn't have a good sense of value cost when they received a product for free. If it didn't cost you anything, then there's essentially less to complain about.

Then you look at games and post-purchase rationalization, and you figure people who bought a game will gloss over faults because they're trying to justify the purchase to themselves

It really goes both ways.

I'm liking Prey so far but only because I didn't pay for it. If I had paid $60 for it I'd be disappointed
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people who pirate are poorfags or underage with no job
people who buy games are normalfags who probably just want any escape from their jobs and life

dont listen to either just play it and find out if you like it
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>>377041496
Wrong
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>>377041219
Work all day come home too tired to do anything fall asleep wake up for work. Slavery to your Salary.
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>>377040092
actually, I pirated it and I'm loving it enough to definitely buy it. I'm just deciding between the ps4 or pc version.
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>>377041529
I never said it was explicitly bad, I don't know what the fuck it is, it's kinda just in there.
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>mfw the FAR mod is literally malware
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>>377041180
>Nuclear Nines
>Beta
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>>377042030
He's been beta so far with a few exceptions. He really took the reigns with the sea machine thing. I still can't get past that one bit where he wants 2B to call him Nines, though.

>"People that know me well call me Nines, you know."
>"Yes, and?"
>"Y-You can call me Nines, if you want to."
>"9S will suffice."
>"O-Oh."
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>PS4 version was $36 new at best buy just last week
>PC version has yet to have a discount
summer sale can't happen soon enough
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>>377040092
It's not that pirates are hating it. It's just that now everyone on /v/ has played it, thus it became popular, and thus the contrarion shitposting cycle was triggered.
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>>377040092
>or pirates(real gamers)
>real gamers

Anyone who calls themselves a "gamer" is either heavily involved with reddit or has a beard and glasses combo, whiteknights, and thinks they're so nerdy for playing a gameboy that one time.
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>>377040092
>pirates(real gamers)
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>>377040092
>real gamers don't support their hobby

huh. makes you think...
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People who pirated this probably didn't play the first game, whilst OG NieR fans are buyfags
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>>377042664
Or maybe not everyone owned a PS3
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>>377042785
True, I just think that a longtime fan of the games would be more likely to openly praise it on this board
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>>377042259
You are in for a ride my man, prepare your asshole.
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>>377040467
So why the fuck would you even post here then?
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>>377042949
I want 2B to peg me.
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>>377040092
>Nier threads were among the most comfy on /v/
>Sequel gets released on PC
>All threads are endless shitposting.
Really makes you think
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>>377043141
I agree, NieR threads have been shit for a while now, just bait, ass posting and people arguing over pirating morals
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>>377043141
PC ALWAYS WINS BABY
SUCK IT CONSOLEKEK
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>>377043141
> my face constantly looking for those threads with no shitposting
Its all so tiresome.

At least theres two threads up right now with no shitposting.
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>>377042785
Nier was also released on the 360.
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>>377041732
>play games all day stay home too tired to play anymore or do anything wake up for more games. Slavery to your fruitless entertainment
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>>377044150
>Can't afford new games as a result
>Coming to hate thing you once enjoyed through repetition
>Killing yourself at age 30 when your parents get sick of you and kick you out

Truly, NEETs are the scum of the earth.
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I pirated it and its a disappointment desu, weeb fags who drooled over 2b hyped it too much and im sure that this is the case with other weebshit games too
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Daily reminder that if you buy a game for ass and saying it's good, then you are truly a _______(undefined number of _'s)
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>>377043034
Because I wanna play it.
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My biggest complaint is how pointless the RPG elements are. There's no point in caring about upgrades or plug in chips, or usable items if all combat just boils down to mindlessly smashing square, evade and using Large Recoverys when needed (which is rarely).

I basically just pressed square, ignored all drops and upgrades, and enjoyed the story. If the changes to your character made meaningful, tangible differences, then this would have matched the hype people had for it. It's still excellent, but its a shame on this front, especially as the combat was so gorgeous to look at.
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>>377046916
The ass is too good.
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Is v2 version of the crack out yet
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>>377047253
You absolutely should care about Plug-In chips. I did. Especially because they break the game easily.

And did you play on Hard? I didn't and I too pressed Square to win, but I heard things are different in Hard.

From what I gathered Automata is a "Normal is too easy, Hard is too hard" situation
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Pirated then bought

I love it
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The shills stopped trying.
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>Pirates are contrarians
What else is new?
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>>377044681
Spotted the ragie wagie
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>>377047691
I maxed out my movespeed, and picked up autocollect. 100% improvement on QOL were worth more than any Crit. Played on Hard, mostly Normal. I changed when I found the difference was Hard just me holding Square longer than normal. The game isn't hard at all when Large Recoveries cost so little and are so spammable.
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>>377047691
>From what I gathered Automata is a "Normal is too easy, Hard is too hard" situation

Man this game is too easy lets go to Hard. Dead in two hits
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>>377048220
I played on normal and yeah, must have died like three times the whole game.

Especially after I locked my Attack-Heal + Auto-Heal combination
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>>377048162
How's your retirement fund coming along, neetie weetie?
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>>377040092
>>game gets cracked
>>people hate it
I'm a pirate fag but I love it?

I think with the praise it's because people spent money on it and nobody want's to say they payd for something bad.
I just like the game how it is, it's pretty fun and I can get a days or two worth of enjoyment out of it so I won't bash on it, even when it has it's flaws.
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>>377048872
>green eyes
what kind of fucking dumb meme is this

2B has BLUE EYES

A2 has green eyes

godfucking damn
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>>377048162
I used to run some help threads on /r9k/.

The NEETs were by far the ones who got it worse. NEETdom eventually traps you in a cycle with no escape.

Even video-games and anime become boring and uninteresting if that's all you do eight hours a day without any dreams or perspective, anon.
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>>377043141
PC is the Facebook of gaming; where everything goes to die
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>>377049034
Those are not green eyes.
Blue and green eyes don't exist, it's all lightning what makes them seem like that.

Those exact eyes could be seen as blue or green depending entirely on the light.
2B is a sophisticated android, her eyes might be lifelike enough to not be just colored and actually act like human eyes.
Same for the model, meeting her somewhere with different lighting you might think they are blue, even if you insist they are green on the picture, but they don't seem that green to be in the first place.
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>>377046004
Kill yourself, pirate.
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>>377049331
>Blue and green eyes don't exist
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>>377049056
As a NEET, I have near unlimited time on my hands--time to do more than simply vidya and anime. I can learn another language, culture myself by reading literature, improve my cooking skills. Oh, there's so much more to do, and I have all the time in the world to do it.

>>377048754
I shan't need one. Shouldn't you be working on funding Shekelberg's second yacht?
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>>377049421
Yes, there are no blue or green pigments in human eyes.
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>>377049056
>>377049513
Depends entirely on the person, some can be successful NEETs, others are just hopeless jobless people.
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>>377040674
>Post purchase rationalization
>For less than 60 dollars
So many poorfags.
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>>377047253
No idea what you are talking, I'm still in route b and I'm enjoying the plug in chips so much that I was looking forward to buy new space (now I already have the max space) an to fuse them.
The shockwaves gaves 2b a better range, the chip that gives you hp when you kill enemies and do damage makes the recovery iteams mostly useless (thankfully) and the battle more interesting since your survival is more linked to how you fight, the chip that stops time after perfect dodging gives you another reason to get the right timing, the chip that enhance the charged attacked makes them a better alteranative since they aren't that better than normal attack by default, the chip that give hacking a group stun effect makes it a very interesting alternative and changes the effects a fuckton, and so on.

Same goes for mindlessly smashing square, I don't understand it. For example the axe's dash+attack has a short range but it curves a lot so it's good for near enemies that are placed on an "horizontal line" the charged attack with the lance has great range and it's great for enemies placed on a "vertical line", the square+square+trinagle combo with sword and huge sword is good against enemies that are in front of you, the same combo with sword and lance is great if you are sourrended, and so on, the are interesting variations can suit different situations better.

Honestly, it looks to me that people who shit on the combat or didn't test shit at all, or are platinum fags wanted a new bayo game. For an ajrpg it's top tier, imo.
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>>377049648
Well, welcome to /v/, most people here are male and in their late teens or early twenties.
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>>377049513
> can learn another language, culture myself by reading literature, improve my cooking skills.

But you won't, because if you had the drive to achieve anything worthwhile in your life you not be a NEET in the first place.

You're chasing dopamine surges in the form of video and gaming entertainment, but as time goes by it will taper off and you will be left with nothing. You won't be able to enjoy anything in life anymore.
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I stopped playing half way through b route because of 9s. He's an annoying little twink faggot with a terrible moveset.
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I helped my friend emulate Ending E yesterday and I believe I managed to create a way for piratefags to emulate the sensations it is meant to convey.

So for any piratefags in the thread, save this in a .txt and fuck off from every Nier Automata thread until you complete the game. The less you know about how the ending works, the better.

>Play the minigame. Try your best to beat it, and don't cheat.

>Lose until you receive a message about video-games (You'll understand in time).

>Click here: https://youtu.be/6ReSKu1TblQ?t=12m9s [Embed] . It starts in the middle of the video - it is not a mistake. Watch from that point on, not before, not after.

>Watch until the end. Don't skip anything.

>Cry.

Every step is essential and was carefully constructed to emulate the full ideal Ending E experience. Do not deviate from the script above.

Have fun.
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>>377049719
Not him, but I'm a NEET and I get my dopamine surges from hard drugs, liquor and sex. Financial problems aren't a barrier for me most of the time.
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>>377049719
I haven't started learning Nip yet, but I have learned how to cook a variety of different things over the past year as well as continued reading. I think I will try thicc pancakes to munch on as I listen to Automata's OST while browsing /v/ next.
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>>377048161
>pirates are right
what else is new
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>>377040674
I purchased the deluxe edition of Final Fantasy XV for nearly $100 and was basically an overhyped member of the XV kun army. Turns out I hated the game completely when I finally got to play it. Invalid argument
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>>377049878
>Financial problems aren't a barrier for me most of the time.
how the fuck do you remain NEET with loads of cash? I'd love to be NEET if I could but no dosh
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>>377040634
>all opinions opposite of mine are shitposting
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>>377049784
Nigga, when you get used to his range attacks shit is fun. And stopping in b route is stupid when you even have hacking to make battle fasters and you aready know what you have to do.
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>>377049974
Living off my dad's wallet, will continue to do so after his diminish from his inheritance.
Also have several independent project that slowly drip in cash.
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>>377049878
Mommy pays for your drugs?

>>377049893
How have your parents not kicked you out yet?
If I just stayed home all day screwing around my parents would kick me out.
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>>377049967
>XV
is it that bad? What did you think of FF13?
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>>377050086
Usually it's the opposite, Eurotards get bashed on for no reason, specially on /vr/ and /v/.
This is coming from a American btw.
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>>377050184
>If I just stayed home all day screwing around my parents would kick me out.
must suck having poorfag parents and/or parents who don't give a crap about you
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Out of curiosity, how do piratefags beat ending E?
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>>377040092

>Pirates
>Real Gamers
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>>377050629
see
>>377049839
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>>377050203
To be fair, I was mainly in it for the plot. The story is rushed trash so I can't stand it. It did have some pretty cool enemies and dungeons though. And I actually really liked Final Fantasy XIII sadly enough. But I get why a lot of people hated it
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>>377048872
> I love it
>but people who bought it are liying because they spent money on it.
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>>377050687
I don't see the problem? The Scene was always better and more honest about video games.
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>>377050791
I never implied people can't dislike it, where did you see it? I said my own personal preference about the game and then answered the OPs question why it got higher praise before it was cracked and how people who paid or pirated it could have different viewpoints on it.
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>>377049513
>I shan't need one.

That's right, because your pseudo-intellectual ass will be at the end of a rope tied to a ceiling fan in as little as a decade. But you go ahead and call me a wagecuck again if it takes your mind off your awful, awful situation.
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>>377050998
Not him, but...
The default retirement found is pretty decent in most places to have a proper life. Maybe you live in a shithole that does not care for their elderly.
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>>377050708

So you just watch the conclusion on Youtube then.
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>>377051113
You still get a full gameplay experience, why pay for a cutscene you can watch on YouTube?
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>>377050828
>more honest
I love this meme. Most people who pirate aren't interested in the game at all. It's just "others are talking about it, better playing it since it's free even if it's clearly not my cup of tea and I'm not interested in what it can offer". People who buy games first understand if they are actually interested in it and then buy and judge.
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>>377050402
if your parents care for you past 18 you have shit parents who don't care for you
if they cared for you your baby ass would be able to take care of itself
learn to be your own person you disgusting neet
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>>377051201
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>>377051201
Because it isn't a cutscene?

Why play the game at all at that point?
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>>377051251
This is a problem how?
How is it a meme also?
If it's not their cup of tea and they dislike it, at least they are honest and that's the point. Same goes for people who buy it because they hear it's good but turns out not to be their cup.
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>>377051110
He's not gonna make it to his retirement fund, you see.
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>>377040092
>game comes out
>people praise it
>game gets popular
>/v/ hates it
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>>377050991
>I never implied people can't dislike it,
You explicitely said that peple who bought it are saying that they like it only because they spent money on it, which is fucking dumb, and it's even dumber because "you love it".
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>>377051468
/thread
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>>377040092
pirates are probably more objective, or if not, definitely more critical. if a game holds up to pirates' opinions then it's much more likely to be genuinely good.

that said, i remember having so much more fun back when i played on consoles and bought like, 1 full price game every month instead of buying tons of little shitty games whenever i want on steam.
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>>377051479
No, I explicitly said "about the phrase" and proceeded to give an answer of my view of the question OP asked, that why is it seem like a worse game now.
I never implied people can't like/dislike it not depending on if they paid or pirated it. It would be a pretty stupid statement to make if I say myself that I liked it and say people can't like it as you implied. This seems rather baitish.

Also this >>377051468 post seems like an ideal answer.
Also, the thing I explained is an actual medical phenomenon.
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>>377051449
How come? I know several people at different ages who have been NEETs for the bigger part of their life and lived fine for decades.
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>>377040092
>piratefags don't even support the only thing they enjoy in their miserable lives

I used to be a piratefag until I got a deadend job now I have no time to play the vidya that I got the job for so why even bother?
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>>377051297
not him but, why play a game for hours upon hours for free and just watch a minute part as a video instead of paying for it and spending money on literary a fraction of the experience that you can get a close feeling to anyways thanks to people sharing it?
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>>377051437
>If it's not their cup of tea and they dislike it, at least they are honest and that's the point.

They aren't honest if it's not their cup of tea but still shit on it regardless. Most pirate just play everything popular regardless if it's something that actually interests them, and then they came here to shit about the game as hard as they can.
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pirates didn't waste money on it so they have no need to try and justify a waste of 60 dollars
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>>377050145
>hacking
Literally the cancer of this game.
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>>377052382

Hacking really wasn't that bad, man.
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>>377052275
You're confusing typical /v/tard with a piratefag.
People who hated it and got it for free won't give a fuck about it, they mostly won't even bother coming into the thread of the game.
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>>377052382
The hell?
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>>377050828

I doesn't matter if you pirate or not.
It's not actually an argument for being a gamer or not.

Only pro anti-pirate argument I can think of is being able to compete online. Which, rather you like it or not, is part of real gaming.
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>>377052434
>>377052506
>ahaha dude epic arcade mini game LMAO
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>>377040092
what if you are a trust fund kiddie and still buy games?
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>>377052067
Well, fine, I'm sure you can do that, but you shouldn't. Not only is it the absolute worst thing you can do to your folks, you wind up turning yourself into a leech on society, and some then have the gall to act smug and tell the people who do contribute to society that they are the problem. I was formerly a NEET and it was undoubtedly one of the worst periods of my life to date. I don't understand how people can stand living like that, hurting their folks in that way.
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>>377052791

Still not seeing how an inconsequential mini game that tends to speed up combat isn't cancer. Hell, it makes grinding to level 99 painless.
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>>377052885

*IS cancer
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>>377049556
Semantics. It's a blue fucking eye. Whether it's an illusion or not, they appear blue because that is the light they reflect. Stoip being retarded.
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>>377040092
Almost like pirates are a minority and those who never planned on buying the game most likely had 0 interest in that game genre, thus when the game got cracked 55 days later after getting alot of praise they think, yeah maybe this is a exception maybe il like this game,just to find out they didnt like it, they never liked it but they bought into the hype.

For example theres people that didnt like the music, nor how anime like the bosses were.
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>>377052382
>>377052434
>>377052885
It's good and fun for large enemies, just too simple for small enemies but it flows pretty well and with the stun chip it's pretty useful.
It also adds variety even from other points of view since you can subjugate and take control of the enemies, controlling and smashing everything with the huge machines felt great.
8/10, fuck the tasteless haters.

>>377052791
Just admit that you dislike the idea and move on.
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>>377040092

I'm fucking loving it so far.

It's like a perfect mix of a bit of grindy JRPG with a fast paced action game like Metal Gear Rising.

The main hub leaves a lot to be desired being just some abandoned city that caves in but the Disney World level was fun and now I'm at some Mall area that I guess transitions into a forest. It's great so far. Then I hear it has multiple endings.

I mean no game is perfect but I'm having a shitload of fun with it so far.
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>>377042332
Because nobody is buying the console version because it's so much worse.
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If it wasn't for 2B's butt, no one would are about this game in the first place.

It's pretty good, but honestly, not that memorable, and not terribly impressive.
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>>377053634
>It's like a perfect mix of a bit of grindy JRPG with a fast paced action game like Metal Gear Rising.

Pretty much this. I like the abandoned city, though, it feels comfy. It needed something more for sure, though, like some interesting and explorable interiors.
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>>377040092
I pirated the game and loved it.

+:
GOAT OST
Original game design that only japanese have the balls to pull off
Amazing story
above average gameplay

-:
Shitty sidequests
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Currently playing A2 and just did the desert area. Game is a mediocre at best and incredibly overrated.

The areas are dreadfully boring and bland, the quests are horrible, and overall graphics are shit. The combat is pretty decent. It hurts the game so much bouncing between checkpoints and then return to the fucking resistance camp for the 50th time. I'm literally just playing to so I can find out what the fuck is going on as the further in I get the more questions I have. Not that I expect to get half of them answered though
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>>377040092
I pirated it and hate it because it keeps crashing
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oh shit, I came home about an hour ago from travelling and just sat down and browsed and smoked weed and completely forgot I have this game to install
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>>377041219
It means wagecuck
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>>377054625
>Shitty sidequests
Side quests were good for the story bits.
>tfw one was basically the little story of a shut in machine becoming a game dev.
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>>377054625
Buy it when you can afford it.
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>>377041180
>Beta male character
You should play more.
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>>377054351
The last thing I noticed when playing the game was 2B's ass

You don't even play as her for most of the game
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>>377040092
certainly not you, loser.
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>>377049513
>i just graduated high school and i dont wanna get a job or go to college being a neet is gonna be great! :D
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>>377055905
Same here.
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>>377048872
>I'm a pirate fag but I love it?
Get the fuck off. Pirate and also a newfag. Jesus Christus.
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>>377050086
>not seeing the irony in portraying the europeans as fat
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>>377040092
I wouldn't have to hate it if automafags were not calling it a masterpiece.
They are insufferable like those retards from the evangelion fandom, most of the time, they only talk about the relationship between 9Shit and 2B.

But yeah, the game is really good with a lot of great things but also with some huge flaws compared to the first one, so no, it's not a masterpiece like everyone said in the first few weeks after the launch.
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>>377049839
I really don't get the huge praise of Ending E. I mean sure it's a nice moment but it the mechanic happening doesn't really tie in to the story of the game so I don't see why I should care.
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>>377050260
Don't ever go to /ck/ then.
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>>377040092
I used to think BotW would be my game of the year, but it turned out to be NieR Automata. I really hope there's an epilogue story DLC, or more NieR in the future, because that was a great experience.
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Game is mediocre. Prove me wrong. Pro tip: nierfags on suicide watch
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>>377058618
You're just being pedantic though. Masterpiece as a label has been devalued to the point where it just means 'really good', not 'flawless'.
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>>377060418
ha fuck you. I'm gonna buy and download it right now and play through it just to prove you wrong.
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>>377060626
>Masterpiece as a label has been devalued to the point where it just means 'really good', not 'flawless'.
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>>377049839
Watching it doesn't come close to experiencing it, in my opinion.
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>>377060779
But he's right. Hell, during this period we even had a lot of botw threads about what he explained to you. Just don't take that term so seriously and literally.
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>>377061012
never ever sonyfriend
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>>377061186
But I have no problem with people calling btow a masterpiece, and I can play it whenever I want on cemu. Was just pointing out that in those threads most people said what that anon explained, it's not a term that must be taken literally.
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>>377061362
>I can play it whenever I want on cemu
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