>Souls-style gameplay >sci-fi/robotic setting Why aren't

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>LotF devs

>>377009326
Nowhere near the quality that lotf was.

>>377009261
It's ugly, uninspired and boring.
They could've done so much more but they went the lazy way.
Every enemy looks the same: Some dude in exosuite with a different weapon.
No open level, all corridors.
All washed up colours and gray cement.

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Because it looks boring

Art direction looks like shit

>>377009261
>5 bosses

>>377009261
because it looks better than Souls and its not made in Japan

>>377009454
Sounds like a Souls game alright.

>souls

God can we please stop this

>>377009429
Are you saying this is higher quality or lotf was lmao can't tell.. either way lotf was hot garbage (yes I finished it) and I've watched a few hours of the surge on twitch and it looks really fucking average.. good combat with no story and really shitty level design.. fact they want full price for it is a joke

>>377009261
>why aren't you faggots talking about this
>ignores the other thread
>>376995463
kys if you're too stupid to use the catalog OP

>>377009261
Looks even worse than LotF in terms of gameplay
Also the first few hours are spend on the most visually uninteresting junkyard i've seen in a videogame.

>>377009261
I'll tell you why it's shit and no one is talking about it

>5 bosses
>no online
>dull industrial setting
>no character customization
>level design is just corridor after corridor
>story is straight forward scifi shit
>only 1 location
>no enemy variety

Now fuck off shill

>>377009772
>good combat with no story and really shitty level design
So just like any souls game then?

>fact they want full price for it is a joke
They don't though. It's 50 euros, AAA pricing would be 60 euros.

I wasn't gonna say shill in the last thread from 30min ago, but I c u now shill

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>>377009743
>unique game comes out a few years ago with a few defining mechanics that separate it from other popular rpgs at the time
>sequels come out and are just as successful while keeping those same mechanics
>other developers take note and start taking inspiration from those games and making their own inspired version of the game borrowing mechanics that define what set that game apart from things like skyrim

this is how a genre is made anon, there are already a lot of these games coming out and the term seems to be souls-like at the moment so try to contain your autism

>>377009621
Source that there are only 5 bosses?

>>377009683
Different flavour of knights, monsters and demons are cooler than just zombies in exosuit and robot-monsters that look like they were imagined by an uninspired construction worker.

Also, castles & fantasy landscapes are better than generic post apocalyptic future warehouses & dark corridors.

>>377010105
http://thesurge.wiki.fextralife.com/Bosses

no quality nor quantity in this game

All those shitty armors reminds me of the shitty ghost from Destiny.

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Mods please ban western garbage from /v/

But I want tron-lines, techno crystals, liquid metal sci-fi.
This is rather bland heavy industrial in-the-very-near-future sci-fi.

It's ugly, bland, and clunky.

One of the biggest red flags in gaming nowadays should be if a developer compares their game to Soulsborne.

>>377009921

Game looks boring but I'm pretty sure no one knows any of those specific details if no one talks about it ever. Did everyone play it and figure out there's only 5 bosses and no enemy variety before it released?

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>Souls style game
>made by western devs

>>377010321
Yes? Streamers have played through the entire game already

>>377010218

/v/ needs to be split into /v/ - Video Games and /vj/ - Weebshit.

>>377010415

I don't know what's worse. Watching a stream of the entire game when you're interested in buying it or watching a stream of the entire game when you have no interest in it at all.

>>377010323
>>377009948

ITT: underages who dont know about Severance: Blade of Darkness the original "souls" game made by westerns

animation wise it looks awful and that's enough to make me not play a game

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>>377009261
>chromatic abberation
>lotf devs
Stop shilling your game

>>377009261
Hell yeah, the successor to the hit masterpiece Lords of the Fallen! Why aren't we talking about this??

>>377010509
Where did I say I've seen the entire game? I just said that people have played through it

Day 1 torrent for this crap anyways, good on them for not slapping denuvo on it

LOTF was atleast better than DS2

>>377009819
>other thread's dead
you goofed, faggot

It doesn't look very good

>>377010772
>wait until the thread falls off page 10 to respond
wow anon, you sure got me

Because it's by CI games.

>>377009261
It's surprisingly good to be honest.

Demon souls > Bloodborne > Dark Souls > The Surge > Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 2

Does it matter if there's only 5 bosses? What's the entire game like? FFS, Breath of the Wild has 5 bosses and you faggots are STILL choking on that Link cock.

>>377009261
>5 bosses
>one of the 5 bosses is literally just the first boss three times in a row
>normal enemies are also all complete uninspired drone garbage

>>377009261
It's not made by FROM

>>377010954
>was at page 10 when you linked
I sure as fuck did, you dumb fuck

>>377009326
This, I know its slav time but dont start shilling too hard now. Stick to the witcher 3 thats a half decent slav game.

>>377010996
Even dark souls 2 shits on the surge and i say this as someone who thinks only a subhuman full blown mental retard would ever rte DS2 as anything but the worst souls game..

>>377011058
It was at page 7 when linked, it's almost like you don't understand the concept of time.

>>377009261
Cause it's not out yet. Also it's kinda bland looking. Feels like it takes place at a loading dock or something.

>>377011021
Zelda is about exploration and also has minibosses

Games like the surge are purely about combat and bossfights.

>>377009261
The combat is better, but they still missed details that make Souls so good. Like having weapons that have a lot of different moves that combo into each other. But not in the sense you press X X Y and something happens only in that order, more like those little moves you get for doing a roll attack, or a backsteb attack.

And really when it comes down to it if you dont find the weapons fun then the whole system falls down.

>>377010996
>more autistic rating and demons at the top
would you just duck off

>>377011129
it's almost like nobody cares

Cause it somehow looks like a budget indie game that should maybe be 30 bucks

>>377011138
>Cause it's not out yet
Are you dense?

>>377009261
>LotF devs
>looks like Clunky Souls
>slow-mo combat

You shills never tire, do you?

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>>377010258
What, like Phantasy Star level?

>>377009261
I don't get how people want more sous games. there has been a bunch in the past years and they aren't that fun

I'd have tried it for 30 bucks.

Full price is ridiculous considering the game is only 35 hours long according to the devs.

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>>377009948
>unique game comes out a few years ago with a few defining mechanics that separate it from other popular rpgs at the time

There is literally nothing unique or definitive about the Souls franchise, it's a callback to King's Field that derives a large degree of its mechanical hallmarks from Monster Hunter, which itself borrows from King's Field. This game, LOTF, and other shitty ripoffs are failing to realize where the core of the combat's functionality comes from, which is why they are all shit. "Slow" isn't a good determining factor for what makes combat good, it's all about how deliberate attacks are. This game is no different from any other MH clone. In fact, it's pretty much Freedom Wars with obscenely shittier combat, painfully more generic environments, enemies, and character design, and seemingly even LESS of a boring, dull story. "Souls-like" is a meme, please stop trying to force it.

>>377011342
I really hate Witcher 3 for setting this unreasonable expectation that every game should be at least 100 hours long or it's not worth the money.

You know that the first mario game was like 2 hours long and it costed 80 bucks back when it launched?

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You need to be a certain level to advance to the next area

>>377011342
>35 hours

An avid Souls friend of mine who got a review code finished it in 18

>>377010562
Levels are way more important than bosses
The game is still shit but its amount of bosses has very little to do with that.

>>377011446
Yeah but Mario also had deeper combat than The Witcher 3

they are not using denuvo again so start sucking their dick

Just watched videos of all the bosses and some areas. Why do all the enemies and bosses look so generic in this game. First boss is a template generic mech, sechond boss is a ring with 4 legs, third boss is literally just a few metal arms with weapons attached to them, hacking away at you, 4th boss is LITERALLY just the first boss THREE TIMES IN A ROW and the last boss is another generic "le evil-black ooga booga monster mash up of all the nanites"

I would buy this game for 5 bucks

>>377011446

It's called competition buddy. This game is trying to compete with games that not only are of higher quality but also twice as long for the same price.

>>377009261
never been one for exo-suit low tech sci-fi

call me when its lightsabers n shit.

>>377011342
$2~ per hour of entertainment is damn good.

>>377011435
define deliberate attacks

>>377011575
upvoted

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>>377011520
18 HOURS
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>>377009261
Fighting bots, the most boring enemy, in a factory, the most boring setting.
Snooze Souls

>But Scifi Souls..
Kys

>>377011524
levels and bosses are about on par with regards to importance in a souls game

>>377011710
but it's 1) not entertaining and 2) alot more expensive than what you get for other games of the genre which are all 2/3 times as long

>>377010437
We've been over this before, that's a terrible idea. /v/ was split 4 times already because of fags like you. There is a huge dearth of actual videogames threads on /v/, some of it is weebshit but i'll take it because its fucking videogames.

>>377009326
This and the blatant shilling on /v/ by the devs.

Apart from that I would like to discuss this game because it does look mildly interesting. Environments do look dull but combat looks fun at least.

>>377011320
>people like things you don't like
>people want more of what they enjoy

Wow so hard.

>>377009261
buying it today when its out.

>>377011906
thats subjective and i have all the dark souls games on computer already

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>>377011770
Attacks which have different paces and speeds that reward players for timing and punish them for swinging will-nilly without a care in the world. If the overall speed of the game is such that every attack you loose is not even worthy of the mental calculation of everything around you, the attacks are not deliberate, they are just poorly animated and poorly thought out.

Monster Hunter has deliberate attacks which are strikingly fast, because the blowback from enemies is markedly faster, does dramatically higher damage output than you could even dream of, and even with their relative speed, locking yourself into a multi-hit attack can be an outright death sentence in many cases. This game simply has "Slow" attacks so it looks like they are weighted, but when everything is painfully slow, the entire structure falls apart due to how your attacks aren't really made with any timing in mind, simply when is a vaguely decent time to bash this hoverbot or that exo-zombie.

>>377010323
>souls is a wrpg by asian devs
hmmmm

Souls combat isn't fun.

>>377011906
maybe you shouldve said that instead of hurrdurr it needs to be long

>>377012067
That's the attitude that allowed the devs to follow up one shitty souls clone with another shitty souls clone. As long as you keep supporting bad games the games will stay bad.

>>377012131
Thanks for explaining yourself

>>377012171
>souls is a wrpg
never

>>377012131
They didn't manage to get this right for LotF and they managed to make it even worse for their next game.

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>>377012229
>your taste is wrong and my opinion is objective fact

>>377012219
But i did. Bad game for the same price than better and longer games.

I liked it better than DaS2/3.

Not amazing by any means, but still a solid experience. I actually really liked the gameplay, not slow at all (well, depending on how you upgrade your character)

>>377012229
you make it sound like there is a huge load of these clones and that they are all bad

battle royale games/survival are actually bad games and cashgrabs
this game just from trailers is easy to tell had effort put into it
its not even a clone the setting is completely different and is singleplayer only

>>377009261
Because it comes from the same team as lords of the fallen and they've repeatedly proven they're incapable of making a game that doesn't play like garbage. And they seriously need to stop putting all their eggs in the souls clone basket.

>>377012383
>"there is no objectivity to anything"

do you honestly believe that the witcher 3 isn't objectively better than Sonic colors?The fact that you enjoy something doesn't change it's objective quality, which in this case is horrendous compared to its competitiors.

>>377011710
>2$ per hour
That's outright terrible. If the game is good enough, it should warrant multiple playthroughs if it's short, or afford a rich experience if it's nice and long. If you can't squeeze $1 per hour out of a game for the price tag, it's already a bad investment. Innumerable people on /v/ have spent hundreds of hours on every single Souls-borne game, some more than others, and maybe that $2/hr value wouldn't have mattered in your first run, but if your game burns out after one run, and clearly has nothing else interesting to do, it's a shitty investment.

>>377012560
>game isn't even out


This is how bad the anti-souls shitposting has become

>>377012635
>taste having anything to do with objective measurements of quality

>It's a Souls game, but without the good level design, enemy variety, compelling setting, or really anything else that made the Soulsborne series popular other than being difficult and having to run back to your corpse if you die.

I'll give this one a pass.

>shilling so hard

>contrarians on /v/ will support this crap just because they dislike souls and its fanbase

lmfao

>>377012734
I've heard that some retailers broke street date for the game, so he may not be lying

>>377012734
im a Twitch streamer, dummy. They basically handed it out to anyone, even people like myself with only 50 viewers.

>>377012565
Have you read up on the """""story""""" it's "low-tech sci-fi tropes 101" combined with "member half life?". Nothing about this game is unique in any way. It's badly stolen combat combined with a badly stolen plot.

>>377012734
No, it's just more corporate shills. They already did this for LOTF, and people hammered them for it in every thread when they got overzealous. The old archive is dead, but this is pretty much the exact same cancer.

>>377012658
>2$ per hour of entertainment is bad

Buying games based off of entertainment:cost just means you'll miss out on some great games that are relatively short. More games fall into the $2+ category than not anyway.

>>377012342
yes, it wears the wrpg scarf.
If you didnt knew you would assume a western dev made dark souls

>>377013054
>If you didnt knew you would assume a western dev made dark souls
definitely not, it has that japanese charm

>>377009261
I actually starting to like this game after twitch. Those strikes with giant electric axe looks incredibly juicy. Feels like an improvement from Souls although have to play it myself to make sure.

>>377012738
You can measure objective quality of videogames you fag.
>does the game crash more (it does)? -> objectively worse
>does the game have less variety in enemies and enemy movesets (it does)? ->objectively worse
>does the game have bad, buggy audiodesign (it does)? -> objectively worse

>>377009261
Is the shilling for this ironic at this point?

>>377013158
can you read? I never said that you couldn't. merely that personal taste and objective quality are two different things.

>>377013161
it's impossible to tell

we've gone too far

>>377012898
oh yeah the story the biggest deal breaker these days cmon lad

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>>377013038
>Buying games based off of entertainment:cost just means you'll miss out on some great games that are relatively short.

Did you not read anything else I wrote? If the game is short, I'm going to want to replay it again, and that will round my cost out. Fighting game stories are miniscule compared to how much value I'm getting out of my purchase, yet the good ones keep me going for countless hours, far more than $1/hour. I cannot think of a single game that was full-priced that did not provide me 60 hours minimum entertainment where I felt satisfied. Zone of the Enders, for example, was $30 at the time, and I well got over 40 hours of entertainment from both the original and the sequel, primarily because it warranted me playing it again. Why would I want to play this game again? The builds all look the same, the lack of enemy variety and exploration means that I'm only going to stop for the most important drops and ignore the rest of the world, the plot is pointlessly boring, and none of the boss fights look interesting.

>>377013205
Which is exactly the same thing i said before?

>>377010136
Aaaaand deal breaker.

>>377013108
where are the demons that scream kawai! sugoi! ?
Why are the wepons and armour besides the 2 or 3 katanas western wepons?

>>377013265
it is when they force it into your face, which souls games don't do.

Audio Logs, Lengthy Cutscenes, unskippable NPCs, progression locked behind grinding.

>>377013420
I'm not talking about the equipment, I'm talking about how the game is made and the structure of it. Something like Dark Souls would never be developed in the west.

>>377011435
And MH started out as a Phantasy Star clone.
The Souls formula is completely separate from MH. They share almost nothing.

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>>377009261

smells like shilling in here

/tg/ did it better

>>377013275
I'm not arguing about this game, I'm just talking about games in general.

As for your replayability argument, some games are so short that you still won't reach a 1$ per hour rate even after another playthrough. I've beaten Max Payne 1 and 2 twice but still don't have a $2 dollar per hour rate just because those games are super short. Regardless I still don't regret buying them because they're some of the best games I've ever played.

Purely single player games that aren't RPGs or open world games would almost never be worth buying if you followed a strict less than 2 dollar to hours played rule.

>>377013342
no, you were complaining about people liking what you don't like before

does it play like if From made Metroid Prime and Vanquish

if no, then fuck off.

I'll treat this game the same way i treated LotF

>wait till i get it in ps plus
>play it for 2 hours
>be disgusted at the inane and flawed gameplay
>delete and never play again
>shitpost on any future games made by these clowns

>Uninspired environments
>Switch the difficulty from bosses to the trash mobs

Only thing they did right was the feel of the core gameplay combat

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>>377013524
>The Souls formula is completely separate from MH. They share almost nothing.

I can tell that this post is coming from either A) Someone who has played one, but not the other, or B) Someone who has played neither. They are functionally the same game, only differing in their approach to bosses and how you interact with the world. The Surge, on the other hand, opts to literally rip off Dark Souls as shamelessly as possible, while games like Dauntless opt to rip off MH as shamelessly as possible, rather than using them as a framework for a more interesting game, like the Souls games, and even MH did.

>>377013482
the game is not made by fromsoft so i don't know what you expected

>>377009261
because its awful you fucking shill. good games just get talked about. bad ones don't.

>>377013738
>me:"The fact that you enjoy something doesn't change it's objective quality"
>you:"i merely said that personal taste and objective quality are two different things."

Are you having a stroke?

>>377013898
>They are functionally the same game, only differing in their approach to bosses and how you interact with the world.
>the only difference is everything

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>Everybody calling it Sci-Fi Souls, even the developers
>It's literally Sci-Fi LOTF

>>377011524
levels are boring, uninteresting corridors with random wooden (??) boxes to smash.

>>377014032
>horrendous compared to its competitors
in that very same post, acting as if your opinion is fact.

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>>377009261
>ugly
>bland
>made by germans
>aesthetics of a german aldi parking lot
>guy you play as has the JUST haircut
>the entire game is poorly lit
>main character walks like he's wearing diapers
>clunky, slow and floaty

>>377013510

I dont know. I thought it was a western game until I read up on From software, especially when DaS came out in a time where the popular games from Japan were shit like Gust games and people were screaming ARE JRPGS DEAD?

>>377014048
>The bulk majority of gameplay is in fighting random enemies and inevitably bosses
>The only major difference between a Souls boss and a MH boss is that Souls bosses are in singular locations and don't run away after receiving too much damage
>Same emphasis on rolls, stamina management, avoiding attacks rather than tanking them (damage output matters), blocking unavoidable attacks, inventory wheel, etc.
>Same focus outside of combat on throwing you into a new zone to fight garbage until you have precisely what you need, picking up scraps from the environment, returning home, upgrading gear, and going back out into the world again
>Same hub area in every game that isn't literally just Dark Souls 1, surrounded by increasingly more numerous NPC's with more things they can give to you
There are so many similarities I have to wonder why I'm responding to you.

>>377014009
>good games just get talked about. bad ones don't.
But Nier Tomato gets shilled constantly on /v/.

JRPG = Japanese RPG
Souls = Japanese games
Souls = JRPG

>>377013898
Monster Hunter's formula is monster based, where you're hunting specific monsters to complete quests and get materials.
Souls games rely a lot more on levels where bosses only mark the end of an area.
Besides the fact that they're mechanically very different.
The only thing they share is "methodical combat" which can fucking mean anything and upgrading weapons and armor.

>>377013054
Souls games are nothing like western rpgs. The atmosphere, art style, characters and the hardcore difficulty are all pure japanese.

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>>377014191
I could tell immediately, even from Demon's Souls, that this was a Japanese game. The atmospheric elements to it, the combat style, and the polish for the designs are too different from most WRPGs. Even the closest ripoffs aren't similar.

Basically if it's western fantasy rpg you can find orcs\elves in it and other generic stereotypes for this genre.

>>377009261
because it's fucking awful
have you seen the game

>>377014684
I liked it but now when everyone shitting this game i feel uncomfortable for it.

>>377014684

but the game looks fine?

Western devs can never make Priscilla

>>377014817
you're not allowed to like something unless it's from a jap dev that /v/ worships. everything else is a target for shitposting

>>377014158
it's not my opinion that the game crashes frequently, just like LotF did. It's also not my opinion that their hub song is a 30 second loop for the entirety of the game. It's also not my opinion that there are 5 bosses, one of which is just a repeat of the first boss.

>>377014379
Technically correct but nobody has ever described Souls as a JRPG. It's like calling Killing Floor survival horror. It's a correct description of the game from an autistic standpoint but nobody would ever call it that or describe it like that when talking to another person.

JRPG usually means anime styled, turn based combat with little to no character customization. I.E Final Fantasy, Legend of Heroes. I'd call Anachronox a JRPG even though it wasn't made in Japan because it uses many JRPG mechanics.

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>>377009621
kek so its true. my alarm bells started ringing watching that totalcancer video and how much he was praising and shilling generic mob encounters and saying everything is like a boss and how amazing generic enemies are.

>>377014817
>Letting other people pressure you into what to like and not to like
Are you retarded? /v/ is full of meme-spouting retards. Lurk moar faggot.

The only people here saying "but it looks kinda good" are the exact same way as everyone who's shitting on the game was in the beginning. They just haven't seen enough of the game yet. It gets worse the more you see.

>>377015104

But its true. Now I hate nier automata too. Its the magic of memes bruh. It just makes things happen become true if more people repeat it enough. Its how trump became president.

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>>377009326
Pretty much this.

Has a nice concept but these devs have proven to be talentless hacks. I will wait and pirate.

>Souls-style/Souls-like
Stop using this word
It will ruin everything

>>377015260
>can't think for himself

Sorry to say but you might be retarded

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>>377015260
Nah, you're just a weak minded individual.

>>377009326
I still remember the nonstop LotF shilling right after BB release.

>>377015385

>think for himself and become a hipster no one gives a shit about
>or becone one with the masses who can make the impossible real with memes

Tough choice.

>>377015176
This. I don't think anyone is opposed to more studios trying out the souls formular. Competition is always a good thing. Most souls fans propably watched the first few minutes and were intrigued. It's only once you look more into it that it starts dawning on you. This all is assuming ofcourse that you didn't know the game was by the LotF devs.

you have had at least one thread on the front page every day, and 99% of posts within them are people shitting on this generic rip off. When do you give up? When do they stop paying you? I'm seriously asking so I know when I can remove the blacklist.

>>377015415

A single lion will die against a hundred loyal dogs.

Anyone know how much armor/weapon variety there is in the game?

The game looks so boring and bland visually, the mechanics and gameplay would have to be excellent for me to consider trying it.

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>>377015260
/pol/ genuinely believes that shit posting on a chinese basket weaving forum had an impact on the US presidential election

I'm happy this game came out before the next Fromsoft sony exclusive. Last time buttmad PCkeks shilled LotF so hard to compensate for Bloodborne

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>>377015502
It's at least less retarded than it used to be.

>WOAH
>Wow...it's almost just like a Souls game...
>Fuck
>Where do I pre-order?
>You can pre-order at lotf.com and it even comes with pre-order DLC!
>Wow, thank you!
>Amazing
>Unreal...
>These graphics...too good!
>I got my review copy. This is easily GOTY, no contender!

Maybe the other Pajeet got fired and this is someone who's a real human, desperately trying to pretend this isn't a boring ripoff with an even more boring "sci-fi" angle.

>>377015520
>there is only two options in life
>using hipster to describe something you don't like
>"make the impossible real with memes"
>missing one of the major points of even posting on this site in the first place by saying this

>>>/r/gaming

>>377009326
>LotF
What is that? Google only gives me Lord of the Flies. I doubt there was a game like that recently.

>>377015502
>>377015726
>>377015753

Calling it now if fromsoft announces another sony exclusive at E3 this year, people will suddenly start pretending this game is good.

>>377015845

>not believing in meme magic

Lord Pepe is saddened by your faithlessness, brother.

>>377015726
>Every single BB thread had that one faggot spamming LotF screenshots.

>>377015879
Lords of the Fallen, which is a shitty Souls clone by the same devs as The Surge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ1Df5Cuiks

>>377009261
Waiting for crack

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>>377015918

funneh

>>377015918
>my life is so shit I have to do whatever it takes to fit in

You clearly don't even like video games if you are so easily swayed by what other people say. If everyone told you Backyard Wrestling was the greatest game of all time, you would believe it.

Anyway here's a (You) for making me kek.

>>377015992
Looks exactly like a Souls game, with the exception that it doesn't have terrible graphics.

>>377015905
Well of course, where else will Petition Crafters be able to claim superiority when they are out another potential game from Fromsoft?

>>377016215
dude playing through that game was the biggest lunchbox let down I've ever had in gaming

the entire time I had that feeling that as soon as I got to this next zone, as soon as I get to this boss, as soon as I get this weapon it's going to get better, and it never comes. right to the end

its terrible right to the very end.

>>377016159

Well what is the purpose of a community if you dont try to fit in? What benefits you in being a pariah?

Just accept the memes, brother. If /v/ tells you a game is shit, believe it and the game will be shit. If you find yourself having fun, then dont worry. It is a test of faith, but do not be easily tempted by the enemy's lures. It will be indeed shit if you believe hard enough as it was desrcibed in the holy meme scriptures recorded on this image board.

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>>377016215
>Dark Souls 3
>Terrible graphics

>>377009261
>single player
>literally who devs
i'll just pirate it desu.
If i like it a lot i'll buy it. Otherwise nah.

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>>377016489

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>>377016215
no

>>377016489
lel how long have you actually been coming to /v/.

I like games that /v/ hates, I hate games that /v/ ,loves I don't try to "fit in" because I come to /v/ to talk about video games. I don't come to shitpost, I don't come to post ebin memes, I only come here to talk about video games. Opinions change wildly on a certain game from day to day depending on who is in the thread. I don't try to "fit in" because I don't need to try, I just do by virtue that I talk about video games.

Your logic is retarded anyway. I've been around long enough to see the majority opinion on games go from hate to love and back to hate.

>>377009261
Because its one of those games that looks cool but we have to actually play it before we can really say anything. There is a lot of baggage on both sides of the fence saying it could be good or it could be bad. I expect talk to pick up this weekend once we can actually play it.

>>377017104
This guy gets it. I'm excited about it but there's no point in taking about it until it comes out because people are going to fling shit until reviews are in and we've gotten the game ourselves

Can someone post "best concept artist" meme. This is how "design" looks like in this game

>>377009261
>Another Souls-like wannabe game
Can this stop? I can't handle the autists equating everything to Dark Souls every fucking day.

>>377011074
>Germany
>Slav

What?

>>377017293
This is absolutely and unapologetically a soulsclone.

>>377009326
this, they always say developers learn from their mistakes, but the movement and combat still looks sluggish as shit

>>377017293
Motherfucker look at a trailer or interview


The devs are Souls fans and there games are shit Souls clones.

>>377011185
>roll attack
The roll attack is more often than not just a useless stab that means you cannot attack your target immediately after dodging.

>>377009261
What's the pay rate for shilling this game? It's gotta be pretty high since there's so few threads about it.

>>377017096
>>377016489

You both sound like autistic faggots shut up

>>377017791

Well meme friendo daddy yo

>>377009326
fpbp

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>western "souls clones" are literally cashgrabs
They even teach you about this in artschools like FZD

>>377010730
no.

Wait for reviews, don't listen to the retards here giving judgement on a game no one has been able to fully break down. That, or pirate it first and see if you like it. 60 dollar gamble on what could be a lackluster game doesn't sound fun.

>>377009683
Yes, if you're a retard, who wants to hate a good game

>>377019820
this
All the memeing is givng me cancer.

>>377011435
Yes but it's the most popular one that people know that particular genre of games though you absolute mongoloid.

Fuck off.

>>377010515
Severance doesn't play like Dark Souls.
Its just a combat game with very good combat.

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>buy Lotf on day one release
>Unoptimized garbage
>Clunky shitty combat, takes 5 minutes to swing your sword, takes the enemy 10 minutes to swing their sword.
>Boss battles are all "guy with sword" "guy with shield" "guy with two sword"
>Magic system absolutely fucking retarded, summon a specter who then casts the spell I wanted to cast. Why don't I just cast the fucking spell then?
>Edgy as fuck bald tattoo face cuckold as the protagonist, no customization.
>Developers literally crying during interviews, you can actually see them hurt every time every reporter or player touches their game and immediately says "this is just bad darksouls isn't it?"


>The surge announced, watch some streamers play it.
>Clunky shitty combat, takes 5 minutes to swing your future sword, takes the enemy 10 minutes to swing their future sword.
>Boss battles are all "large mech thing" literally incapable of hitting you if you stand close to them.
>Future tech system absolutely fucking retarded, summon an airborne drone that then uses the tech I wanted to use. Why don't I just fucking use the tech then?
>Edgy as fuck scar on head cuckold as the protagonist, no customization.
>Developers refuse to talk to anyone, you can literally hear their muffled crying behind the door as reporters try and get them to come out and talk to them, everyone who plays or even looks at the game calls out through the door "So it's like scifi bad darksouls???"

At least they arn't Anthony Burch.

>>377009261
It's dull.

>>377015992
Ah, thanks.

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>>377009261
Because they managed to make a si-fi souls game looks completely bland and uninteresting. The art direction is bland, the animations are horrible, the level design looks like complete crap plus the combat doesn't even look fun.

Jesus Christ all the buzzwords repeated over and over again. Can anyone actually think for themselves?

boy this board is flaming garbage

>i heard lotf was bad so it sucks

what a great discussion. this game is already reviewing well.

>>377009326
>B-But muh LotF devs

Because developers NEVER learn from their mistakes and aim to make their next project better, amiright?

>>377011074
>germany
>slav
American education, everyone!

>>377012876
sometimes i want to be a twitch streamer. not even to make money or be famous or any of that shit. i just want free games and beta keys and shit like that. i know some twitch streamers who arent even partnered and dont even get 100 viewers, but they get super secret alpha keys and free, early copies of games. like... what?

>>377011446
Even fucking skyrim was 100 hours long, pure SP games should be long and offer replayability in the form of differents paths to take, otherwise they are worthless.

>>377009261
Because it doesn't look very good
I'll be pleasantly surprised if it is but from the gameplay I've seen the animations look absolutely terrible

>>377009261
Why is everyone using fucking melee weapons in the future? Dumb as fuck.

Also the screams of the enemy get on my nerves like nothing else and the sound pretty much repeats without variation.

Shitty game.

are germans autistic and incapable of creating anything beautiful?

>>377024950
It isn't a buzzword just because you don't know what it means.

>>377025056
As proven by hundreds of games released in the last few years, they only get worse as they fire good devs and replace them with low-paid code monkeys.

>>377009261
It's alright. Better than Lords by far. They learned their lesson, but it's still pretty bad. It's got ambushes that put Pre-patch DaS2 to shame, meaning they still haven't quite learned every lesson.

>Artificially add weight to every weapon in LotF which is fucking stupid
>Artificially add weight to every weapon in The Surge
>Dev: "Having weight in all weapons make sense because you are wearing heavy machinery"

These devs really need to kill themselves

>>377025056
>Because developers NEVER learn from their mistakes

kek
literally name one
you literally can not

>>377009261
>be Polack
>everyone here is shilling LotF and Surge
>just because it's Polish

>>377009326
It looks even worse than LotF.

>>377026141
heavy machinery.. a powersuit made for heavy weights

>>377009261
Does it have some sort of multiplayer system like souls games?

>>377026141
Don't the weapons in Souls also have weight to them depending on the size of the weapon? What are you getting at?

>>377026518
Because LotF devs are obsessed in adding 'Weight' to every weapon including daggers which unnecessarily make combat slow and clunk

Now in the Surge devs have an excuse to make all combat slow and clunky cus you wear a power rig outfitted with heavy machinery so all weapons having weight in them is justified.

Seriously fuck off with that bullshit excuse

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>people claim "shill"

please. these devs couldnt afford to shill if they wanted.

http://gameranx.com/updates/id/106316/article/the-surge-ps4-download-size-revealed/

How is the download size only 5.4gb?

>>377027115
day one patch

steam says 15gb

>>377009261
Looks more fun than shit souls

>>377026518

The manner in which that weight is applied and how it affects swing speed, both at the beginning, middle, and end of the swing, is very important. Dark Souls doesn't always manage to do this successfully, but overall it manages to do a decent job. The LotF devs don't seem to have figured out how to do it properly.

>>377010136
That is pathetic. Only five? Damn.

>someone finally makes a sci-fi souls clone
>main character is fucking garbage and the weapons all look retarded

Call me when someone makes a game with a customizable robot instead of a fucking handicapped old man.

Germany has a couple of huge and good devs, f.e crytek, blue bytes and piranha bytes

but as a german and huge souls fan i can tell you deck 13 is not one of them

lotf was trash and surge is bad in terms of story and it brings nothing innovative.

ill wait for fromsofts new rpg before i buy this crap

>>377027027
it's probably just the devs themselves then

>>377027027
Way to prove how new you are.

You obviously weren't around right before Lords of the Fallen launched.

>>377027874
>it brings nothing innovative.
LOL, you're full of shit. True souls fan don't want innovation that strays from the formula which is why they hated Nioh

>>377026191
This. If they made one shit game, they'll always be shit devs.

cautiously optimistic about this one. may or may not pick it up depending on reviews / gameplay recorded after launch

>>377028982

BB introduced a offensive and shieldless gameplay that is alot different from DkS and i dont recall alot of hate there.

Wanna know why? Because miyazaki made it.

DkS2 introduced dual wielding that was a innovative and wished feature that was missing in DkS1, nobody hated that?

DkS3 introduced weapon arts that brought spice into the old R1 R2 crap that we got before and they are more or less fun to use especially in pvp.

Straying from the formula is nothing bad aslong as it fits the rest of the gameplay.

Nioh is hated by wannabe hardcore soulsfans because its not fromsoft, i played was more than 1000hrs of dks in total and i didnt hate nioh.

LOTF was just crap thats why it got bashed.

The only person whos full of shit is you and the rest of these "True soulsfans" aka we hate everything that is not made by fromsoft

REMINDER TO REPORT AND SHITPOST ALL THREADS ABOUT THE SURGE!!!

ONLY VIRAL MARKETERS ARE SHILLING THE SHIT GAME ON /V/

>>377009261
>>Souls-style gameplay

Name one game that wasn't forgotten in a week from release and managed to be on par with any Fromsoft Souls title.

I can actually feel in my soul the presence of the devs in this thread.

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Does your character feel faster and lighter in surge?
Wanted to like lotf but you felt like you were over emcumbered all the time.

>vidya 101
>never make the player feel slow

>>377031578
Streamers I watch yesterday were basically zipping around and it looked like you sidestepped like in Bloodborne at times. The only slow things were the jumping, ducking, and enemy attacks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/6ba2oj/ama_we_are_deck13_developers_of_the_surge/

For those interested they did an AMA on Reddit. If some people could look at it and tell me what they think. I'll come back here in a few days to see what people think of the game.
The answer on Denuvo is pretty based, no surprise, the guy who answered, one of the producers is actually a cool guy on twitter.

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>>377009621

Yeah, wow, having few bosses really makes a game shit, right?

pfffffffffhahahaahhahahahahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>377032908
From what I understand they wanted the mobs to not be utter trash, which is why they added the timer on getting your corpse back, to actually make it a challenge, since mobs can't be roflstomped that easily. The fact that you get more scraps and additional time when killing mobs is yet another incentive to actually try and kill these.
However, streamers and reviewers did note that it could push you to the opposite, running straight to your corpse to try and get your loot because the mobs were too hard hitting.

I think that addition to the corpse mechanic is interesting, you can't reamly fuck around after dying.

>>377010562

Is this the Zelda: Breath of the Wild thread?

>>377011176

The Surge also has minibosses though.

>>377013054

You're full of shit. Dark Souls is anime as fuck, with waifus, traps, and anime weapon moves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keU_TvvutAI

>>377009326
>LotF flops because it's a shitty DaS clone
>studio decides to make another shitty DaS clone BUT THIS TIME IT'S SCI-FI!!!!
literally cant make this shit up

>>377015017
>JRPG usually means anime styled, turn based combat

Kill yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTYr3W_FI5I

>>377033151
I like that the game trying to be its own thing instead of a 1-1 souls clone. Combat and loot mechanics look interesting too. Fuck the meme spouting faggots in this thread, I'm going to wait until reviews are out and see.

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>>377032660
Hue. Youknow the dude visits /v/.

>>377036798
Yeah he's pretty good.

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>>377009326
>>LotF devs

Well, at least I know I can wait for it to be free on PSPlus.

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Woops, forgot the pic.