Fire Emblem Echoes is coming out soon. Going to play it? Interested

Why is new Celica so waifuable?

Managed to get a SE preorder. Got amiibos for free via Target gift card. Feels gud.

Fuck that season pass, though.

>>377007372
Probably not gonna play it because my favorite part of FE is the "no grinding."

>>377007372
pandering to gramps was a mistake

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>>377007372
I'm playing through FE7, will eventually be making my way through the other games and I heard the ones post-FE7 suck ass. Could anyone care to tell me why?
Also, doesn't this game have really bad DLC?

>>377007814
>not hacking the game and doing a no exp run

>>377008039
>Could anyone care to tell me why?

Hipsters.

>>377008039
Everyone who screams about the recent games are usually particular about one thing. Whether it be emphasis on pairing units or the way maps are structured. Best bet is to try it yourself and see.

If your the type who doesn't want to spend money unless satisfaction is ensured (pretty pleb way of gaming life if you ask me), hack your 3DS. You've got no excuse.

>>377008301
Different anon here. I have a hacked 3DS, right now finishing Awakening and later planning to do Fates and then Shadows of Valentia. Is this a good idea?

>>377007372
>Think the Japanese sales figure showing the dip in people's interest in Fire Emblem?

More like nobody fucking cares about Gaiden, and a remake that's basically just a dressed up Gaiden isn't going to change that.

Warriors and FE Switch next year are where you want to judge things.

>>377008453
Sure. If you want to get through Fates quicker, you can just play Conquest...it's by far the best route.

>>377008453
There's no right or wrong order in playing this series.

>>377007419
All Celicas are great in their own ways. This one is extra fluffy.

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One of my first fire emblems was sacred stones and I loved the mechanics of it. Do you all think I would like echoes?

>>377007372
I managed to reserve a collection edition... only for the store to call me on Friday to tell me that "for reasons out of their control" they won't hace the C.E in stock. Fuck them, now my only hope to get the C.E is a gamble at "polvos azules".

>>377009234
Sacred Stone is pretty much Gaiden 2.0 in a few ways like world map. So maybe but Gaiden is pretty much it's own weird thing so who can actually say.

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>>377007372
All eyes are on the Switch now. Only dedicated Fire Emblem fans are buying this.

>>377010158
Fire Emblem Warrior Awakening/Fates edition away.

>>377008039
Genealogy and Thracia are well received and probably the two games you should bother to go back and play. Gaiden is the black sheep and is now remade on the 3DS and 1&3 are remade on the DS so there's no reason to go back to play those games unless you really wanna play famic Fire Emblem for whatever reason.
Roy's game is probably the only real shit one.

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Unless it's autism about the translation, no one actually cares about the game

>>377007419
Hidari.
She's still a dumb cunt though.

I've played most FEs and usually don't do this, but I'm waiting for reviews before I purchase.

How do I not suck at these games?

>>377012045
Those legs though

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>>377012045
I'm excited about it. Yeah it might not be that great of a game but seem better than fucking Fates.

Plus I really like the boys

>>377012045
That thread yesterday was full of retards who just want there to be localization drama for the sake of drama. That line everyone was freaking out about is nowhere near as bad as anything in Fates.

>>377012140
I have a feeling the reviews are gonna be bad because it's still the black sheep and is closer to older games and is too different from modern ones so people are gonna hate it.
ie. It doesn't play like Awakening or Fates therefore it's shit.

I have a placement studying abroad next year and thinking of buying a 3ds xl to play fire emblem, pokeymans and smt games since i wont have pc/tv/console.

Not had a hendheld since GBA, Am i right in thinking 3DS can also play DS games?

Was thinking of waiting for 2ds XL but I don't mind paying more for the 3D feature, that is if the 3D is decent?

Basically i guess im asking whether it's worth buying a 3ds or 2ds xl

>>377012546
3DS games can still play DS games
The 3D effect can be really nice at times but it's purely optional and not really impactful in the long run. I use it sparingly and it's usually just to see how the game looks in 3D then I turn it off after a few hours.
If you don't really give a shit about the 3D effect just grab a 2DS

>>377012484
You mean the "weak fire with my hurty lightning" or whatever? Sounds fine if they were going for a cutesy childish girl attitude.

It's leaked today with undub

so is hard in this game = lunatic?

>>377009415
Damn. I feel for you, brother. Shit was super cheap, too.

>>377013053
More or less. It starts easy, but some of the maps later on are pretty crazy. Then you get to the postgame and your anus gets torn in two.

>>377012854
That was the only line we talked about. An entire thread about "big, hurty lightning."

>>377012812
I thought it might be more of a gimmick.

Hypothetically if money wasn't an issue would you say the 3DS would be better if it was to be used as a "main" gaming system for a year.

>>377012385
It's worst than Conquest in everyway (strictly speaking gameplay and OST)

>>377013209
well i refuse to play on the lowest difficultly setting but any general tips i should know that the game maybe doesn't explain?

>>377013326
Fates ruined everything in every possible way. Waifu became the norm and because of the removal of petting all anyone now cares about is hating on any localization they see. Now all anyone can ever talk about is how much NoA or whomever does the localization will butcher it.

Fates almost make me quit the franchise and this game seems like want to be even worse.
I will probably wait the reviews and the reaction of the players before buying it.

>>377008301
My issue with the newer ones is that you're able to grind out levels. It feels like they didn't care about map balance because, the player will always have the option to get more xp to beat the chapter.

There's a reason why Conquest maps in fates are way better than the others in fates.

>>377013927
Nah, there's nothing like that. Promote all your villager units as soon as they're able to, it's not worth it to wait for extra stats unless it's Alm/Celica since they promote during the story and I think they have finite levels available to them.
When you promote, your unit's stats get bumped up to the class's base stats if they didn't make it there yet. Also even though they bumped up growth rates from the original, I don't think I've seen as many single stat levels ups in a loong time.

>>377013053
Hard mode is easier than Conquest Hard

>>377012385
>Blackwashing

>>377014342
Fights seem to be more about stat checks sometimes. Celica has some incredibly annoying maps starting in Chapter 4 though

>poison swamps that do 5 damage a turn and limits movement
>multiple necromancers summoning shit every fucking turn
>and here's 4 archers right by them so you don't have the whitewings rush them

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>It already sold like shit in Japan.
Can this fucking meme stop already, it sold around 160K+ copies and it's not even sold out in the US or Europe yet.
People need to stop freaking the fuck out so much, also
>Makes me wonder what it'll do to FE's status at Nintendo.
it did LITERALLY nothing to change how Nintendo is currently looking at FE's popularity, they most likely at ISIS said to nintendo "Hey you know how our old time fans are all bitching about how the new games are shit and pander to casuals and waifu fags? Well can we put together a B-Tier team and start doing remakes, which we say right now won't do amazing but will sale some while the A-Team makes the main series with Waifus and sells tons?" And nintendo says "Yeah sure whatever as long as the Main series sales well we don't care"

>>377007372
Not going to play it, no MU. My only hope is Hidari does the art for one more FE and that one has MU

>>377008552

>Warriors

that game is going to be so passe compared to Hyrule Warriors. HERE'S A LIST OF THING FEW WON'T HAVE (probably)

>Giant bosses besides maybe a dragon or demon
>non human villains that aren't dragonkin
>many villains in general
>subweapons
>minor supporting characters given a time to shine
>less than half a roster of sword users

I'm preparing heavily for that last one. We might get a horse rider, mage, or beast user but BOY OH BOY I CAN'T WAIT FOR ALL THE SWORD LORDS!

I am Chinese

I can say that balance is a joke
Bow and magic rape everything
Paladin and Soldier are shit

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>>377016003
>this lazy bait again

>>377016247
You forgot
>3/4th of the cast from Awakening and Fates
>every other game in the franchise gets either just the lord or a passing mention

>>377016421
>Bait
Its true, and the poor sales of Echoes just reaffirms that MUs are something FE needs now. This being /v/ going to go full hyperbole, overreacting thinking that means some Mary Sue shit like Robin or Corrin, and not a less spotlight stealing Kris.

>>377016247
>No giant boss fights
Thanks fucking god. Hyrule Warior boss fights were the fucking worse part of that game. Mostly just sit around waiting for them to do their special attack so they can be actual damaged.

>>377016389
>Bow and magic rape everything

Not really. Magic maybe, but all those later spells start costing like 6 HP or more, and mostly all archers you come across are slow as shit, not to mention bows are also fucking heavy, and early only they have shit accuracy. they're more for picking off units or weakening them

>>377016389
Magic is strong because of the way Gaiden works.
Leon and Python are your only real solid archers, but the way hit/evasion and doubling work in Gaiden doesn't make it an issue.
Clive is the only "bad" cav in the game and he's decent to good at the very least. Mathilda and Zeke are fucking great and even Mycen is a good unit.
Valbar is a good unit and so is Lukas. Forscythe is probably the most useless one.

>>377016682
Kris is worse than either of them, FE12fags are fucking retarded. Suck my dick, choke on it.

>>377016725
I only really hated Manhandla and Phantom Ganon (still don't know what his gimmick is) desu, the rest of the giant bosses were really painless in comparison.
But god, fuck Manhandla with a stick.

>>377016682
>Echoes did bad meme
Taking your shitty bait.
It sold 160K+ copies and was within projections. They weren't expecting another Awakening/Fates, and with how Gaiden is received in general it makes sense.

>>377016924
Imprison can go to fucking hell personally. Think the real issue is they tried being cute with the elemental thing for extra damage but nearly everyone only had one element so you were either forced to play as a character who isn't strong against the boss and took forever or just used Link and finish it quickly.

>>377017425
Oh yeah, I forgot Imprisoned existed. Yeah, he's kinda garbage as well, but he's not too bad in the 3DS port. I know that I was sitting for well over an hour on that square on the adventure map where you have to defeat 2 small ones and a big one with Fi.
I have no idea who the hell thought it was a good idea to give different damage to everyone's weak point finishes but he can go die in a fire.

>>377012045
Gaiden is my favorite FE (for some reason). I even imported an old famicom copy after I beat it a couple years back. When they announced this remake, I was beyond excited.

>>377007372

I'm going to pirate it

>>377016924
Phantom Ganon was actually pretty easy. All you had to do was reflect his beam back to him, and then after that hit his back 3 times.

Manhandla is easily the worst. It rarely uses the move that makes it weak, and I've lost a shitton of A ranks to his bullet seed spam.

The Imprisoned is also complete shit, too. Especially since they love cramming it in keeps with two mini versions.

>>377017597
>Oh yeah, I forgot Imprisoned existed
I wish I could forget Imprisoned for the rest of my life.

>>377013408
If money isn't an issue might as well. Again, like you said the 3D is really just a gimmick. Although some games looks really nice with it like KI:U, some games don't even use it like Pokemon.
The library for the 3DS is solid in general so it really doesn't matter which one you get. It's not like any of the games use the 3D for more than the gimmick.

>>377013517
But Gaiden has the best OST in the series...

They NEVER chased Fates sales in Japan and never treated the game as something on the same level as a new entry. Why do you think FE Switch was announced during the same Direct? The game only started getting advertisement about 2 weeks before the release. Japanese fans complained about West getting more coverage than them.

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>>377017686
>All you had to do was reflect his beam back to him, and then after that hit his back 3 times.
Holy shit, I was not aware you could do this. That fight was such a clusterfuck on the 3DS I was just mashing attack with Master Sword Link and sometimes I could really tear into him, and I was just glad I was done with the fight.
I should get back to playing adventure maps, but I really wanted to get through Legend mode so I can and I kinda burned out in the process.

There are no Dragon Knights in Echoes?

>>377017761
Fates was better. The tracks in Echoes besides the Final map are really boring and uninspired.

>>377018043
They weren't in the original game, plus they'd be hilariously outclassed by falcoknights.

>>377017761
Echoes' OST biggest problem is the lack of map themes. Every chapter gets a separate version of Alm/Celica Map and that's it. There are some exceptions for more important maps but they didn't even bother making different themes for battles in dungeons.

>>377018043
They weren't in Gaiden either.

>>377017887
>Japanese fans complained about West getting more coverage than them
Japan always complain about that no matter what it is. They always feel like they are super special and need all the attention and if at any point they feel they aren't #1 they cry and cry and cry.

>>377017425
>>377017597
>>377017686

The worst part about Imprisoned is that he's fucking HP gated. No matter how much damage you can put out, you'll be forced to watch that fat fuck slide around for 15 seconds straight at least 3 or 4 times.

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>>377018201
Why is that, Pegasus Knights got some super monster killing skill? As much as I like the new Est art, they should have had a new trio.

>>377018043
No ax units in Gaiden, dude.

>>377018189
No.

>>377018343
What else would you expect from a country where PC gaming is only for hentai VN shit?

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>>377016003
>tfw I know people like this in real life

>>377018702
So they should have replaced the trio from the original with new fanfic characters? Why?

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>>377018702
>tfw they nerfed Triangle Attack
>tfw Est is now literally useless and her only saving grace is gone

>>377007372
can I pirate the USA rom yet?

>>377018702
>Pegasus Knights got some super monster killing skill?

When they promote to Falcon Knight, they all get a passive +10 attack against monsters.Why the fuck would they get rid of the fucking Whitewings?

>>377007372
I'm going to play it on my pirated 3DS and sell the LE copies that I have reserved. If its anything like Fates, I should make about $400 profit.

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>>377018702
The Whitewings were in Gaiden as well.
As well as this motherfucker.

>>377018716
I'm objectivity correct though.

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Doot is cute!

>>377018868
>>377019006
I get they were in Gaiden, just saying back when Gaiden was made they should have made a new trio but I guess they wanted some tentative connection to the previous game.

>>377018716
Dragon Knights haven't always used axes

>>377019239
Well, Gaiden was literally a side story to Marth's game that took place on a different continent.

Is Conquest REALLY one of the BEST FE's or is this just some fucking meme?

>>377019949
no, it has decent maps but bad everything else

>>377020097
>no, it has decent maps but bad everything else
Then which FE is truly the best?

>>377019949
If we're talking just map design and strategy yeah.

>>377020230
Each has it's own issues honestly. FE5 might be the best but it has insane weird mechanics that at times put Gaiden to shame.

>>377019949
Total meme. Maps are shit too, it has gimmicks on some levels, not proper map design. Don't listen to anyone saying map design is good, they are parroting faggots. It also has the worst story in the series.

>Missed the LE
Goddamn it.

On a related note, has Hidari ever put out an artbook? Not necessarily one tied to one of the series he worked on, but a general one? I love his work.

>>377020529
I'll sell it to you at a markup since I bought 10 of the LEs.

>>377020513
t. Birthrout casual

>>377020472
FE5 doesn't have any "insane weird mechanics" It just has some unfair shit for some enemies but that's because it's actually a strategy game. Other fire emblems are only strategic for low turn count runs.

>>377020529
>On a related note, has Hidari ever put out an artbook?
I don't think so, but in the SE for Echoes it has an art book

>>377012140
Here's a preview
>Muh loss of the marriage system
>Muh different magic system
>Muh not Awakening/Fates
>Muh lack of a self-insert character

Don't even look at the reviews. Just watch the gameplay and judge for yourself.

>>377020712
>I don't think so, but in the SE for Echoes it has an art book
That's the only reason I wanted the LE in the first place.

>>377020472
Thracia was meant to be brutal though, that's the sole reason it exists. I think.
But yeah, all FEs have their own strengths and weaknesses, and sadly for Fates, that strength is 1/3rd of the game. Birthright is fine for worse players but Revelations shouldn't fucking exist.

>>377020605
Birthright and conquest are the same game if you play Birthright on hard and conquest on normal. I have no idea why faggots are so desperate to make conquest seem good when it's only negligibly better than the kusoge that is fates.

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How does he do it?

>>377020763
Wow, this game could really take a hit with Western reviewers if they are hardcore Awakening fags.

>>377020784
>Birthright and conquest are the same game if you play Birthright on hard and conquest on normal
This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard someone say.

>>377013408
The problem is that the 3DS is region locked, so you'll have to either bring a year's worth of games with you, or order from online to wherever you are and pay shipping costs/spend waiting time

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>>377020513
>conquest has shit m-

I'll always be mad that fates got a fan translation because they couldn't wait a year for the english release and and thought it was so important that a terrible game get a less cencoered translation.

Meanwhile fucking thracia still lacks a playable translation. And stuff like vesteria saga will never be translated.

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>>377020868
The heroes art is also really cute

>>377020868
>Dear exorcisms don't count toward the after battle rapport
I was actually a bit sad.
Silque and Genny pulled their weight in chapter 4.

>>377020651
Capture and how healing can miss are pretty crazy at times. But that's just me. Hell out of all the remakes FE5 is the one game I'm really wondering what they do with it.

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Even the generics are qts

>>377021049
Pales in comparison to Hidari.
That just looks like some generic moeblob.
Lacks all the soul.

>>377021129
I don't think they'll remake it, honestly.
Even if they do, they'll probably rework it to be more player-friendly and bundle it with a Genealogy remake that has incest removed ofc.

>>377021040
yes that is a shit map. It's hardly even a map. it garbage you could make in an editor in a minute. with tedious enemy placement that isn't a threat.

>>377021040
That map was a cake walk if you had Femui. Tank girl wouldn't even take damage.

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>>377021129
Capture is fine, and healing makes sense, otherwise the skill stat is useless for them. It encourages you to capture/ steal more vulternarys/elixers as they are consistent. Honestly healing items are not put to good use in fire emblem, do a no healer run in a gba game of something and it's pretty interesting.

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>>377021215
Don't think they are going to do a bundle. Feel they will treat each game personally for good or for bad. With Genealogy I just hope they include the pair up for the giant maps.
>that has incest removed ofc
Yeah I feel that way too.

>>377020908
>Wow, this game could really take a hit with Western reviewers if they are hardcore Awakening fags.
>Western reviews are almost entirely casual faggots
>FE's popularity in the West is based on Fates/Awakening
>This includes reviewers

It's a shame, really, but I don't think Echoes has a chance, review-wise. I don't even hate Awakening/Fates, but the popularity they gave to FE is a double edged sword.

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>>377021239
Casual who played on normal detected

>>377007372
Coming out? But its already out both in english and Japanese if you arenr a moral autist.

region free english .cia is on 3DSISO

>>377021587
Don't know why but I tend to not do ROMs until the system is long dead

If I play echoes on hard will it just turn into a grind fest?

>>377021426
>Feel they will treat each game personally for good or for bad.
You're right actually, but seeing Fates, I don't think they'd be opposed of the idea of selling it like that; one cartridge is Genealogy and the other is Thracia, with the other version being buyable DLC.
There's no way Gaiden will be as popular as Awakening/Fates are in the west, but I hope this doesn't cement the fate of an Echoes subseries of remakes.

>>377007861
imagine if they did GotHW or Tharcia 776 remake instead

>>377021040
Early/midgame is fantastic

But then lategame is "cheese the shit outta the map or deal with an awful gimmick"

>>377021692
Grinding isn't worth it. The only ones who really need the bonus stats are Alm and Celica. You should promote as early as possible because you need to keep up.

>>377021573
I played on hard and ignatius was made into a berserker with camilla as the mom. He was invincible and tanked waves of enemies. Harder modes on neo-fire emblem just makes it more RNG as enemies are given small crit rates you have no control over.

Fire emblem has always been babies TBS game. It's pathetic when people think they are part of the cool kids club for playing casual games on dumb difficulties and autistically min/maxing shit. instead of doing low turn count runs or playing a game that isn't weebshit.

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>>377021040
>nu FE children think that's a good map

>>377021573
>let's map a map where there's two sides
>but let's also let the player start units off paired, and ignore the point of it entirely and use a full team for one side and ignore the other

Did they not realize the issue here?

>>377021951
It is a good map, keep being retarded.

>>377019006
is that char

>>377021913
But I like grinding and there's shit all coming out for the rest of the year so I want to get 300 hours out of this game.

>>377021875
Every map is flat shit like awakening with maybe some dumb gimmick like some pots or something. Enemy placement isn't intelligent at all either.

>>377021692
Nah, you'll get a couple of units late but the only one worth grinding to catch up is the loli, though she starts out with ridiculous stats for a level 3 mage so it's not too hard to just babysit her

>>377022073
Didn't Awakening steal a few maps from Gaiden? That's what I read way back when but I'd rather not subject myself to the thing that is NES Gaiden to confirm.

>>377022005
It's a bad map in a bad game. Friendly reminder that awakening onward aren't even fire emblem games but spinoffs like persona is to SMT.

>>377019949
It isnt. Gimmick maps are fun, but they arent supported by strong normal maps.

>>377022194
>Friendly reminder that awakening onward aren't even fire emblem games but spinoffs like persona is to SMT.
But that's not true. Don't be autistic

>>377022161
Gaiden has no map design. Of course instead of remaking the game and fixing this they keep it non-existent because the devs are lazy hacks.

Sacred stones was the true gaiden remake anyway.

>>377022289
I decide which games are part of this series. Not you.

>>377022073
Pots are fine and the enemies aren't that dumb. Some will hold their ground and there's staves they have. Its only lategame when it falls apart due to flierskips and enemies being too goddamn strong for normal strategies. Tell me how Conquest Lunatic can be done deathless with some staff fuckery. It can't. If the entire game got polish and the balance was better CQ would be godly in gamelay. But it didn't, which is a shame.

>>377020784
The map game in Conquest is fire. Combined with limited EXP it plays like a more modern version of classic FE if you don't grind DLC areas.

Shame about the story though.

>>377021792
Maybe but I feel IS is just going to do one Echoes game every other year and a new mainline the next. Guessing it's to calm the oldfags down. 6 and 7 I guess could be a bundle since it's more connected than Genealogy and 776 is.

>>377022161
Not necessarily steal, but the continent of Valm is literally Valentia so it did borrow some maps from Gaiden, more notably the paralogues.
They're really insufferable in Gaiden/Echoes though.

>>377022457
>>377022338
Just use the edit button next time, newfriend.

>>377022293
>Gaiden has no map design.
>one of the first few maps in the game is a huge square with a knight on the far left and 5 or so units in a W shaped "castle"
I wonder if they fixed up the maps.

Why has the Master Knight class of FE4 not seen a resurgence in new games?

>>377022627
Too OP

>>377022449
Fucking what?5/6 are way more connected than 6/7. Fucking 7 was made so it can be played with no knowledge of 6, and it's just lol neat that X characters mom/dad.

5 fucking ending midway though 4 part 2. you recruit leaf.

>>377022663
Well they are a class exclusive to lords, not main character lords but nobility.

>>377022562
Echoes still has the same map design as Gaiden.

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>>377020868
>how does he do it?
on his knees ofcourse.

>>377020784
>The more casual route on a harder difficulty is as hard as the more hardcore route on an easier difficulty
What are you trying to say here?

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>someone unironically thinks this is good map design
>they think this chapter isn't completely shit

>>377013517
>It's worst than Conquest in everyday

That bad huh

>>377023132
That it doesn't matter which one you get as they are both shit. You can get the conquest experience that is hailed as so much better by bumping the difficulty up a level on birthright and you can get the casual birthright experience by putting the difficulty down and/or playing with the no death mode.

>>377023271
You gotta remember it's the Zelda 2 of Fire emblem so it's gonna be different compared to the rest of the games in the series.

I'm going to marry Celica!

>>377023463
Calm down Alm.

>>377008039
Sacred Stones: It's possible to grind Even though it's entirely unnecessary except for the postgame stuff which is both cool and a good bonus. It's a good game.

Path of Radiance: You know how people call people "awakening babies" because they got into the franchise recently? That's what people used to call people who got into it with this game, except unlike awakening this game is really good. Biggest downside is that this is when they ditched sprites so there's no reason to ever have battle scenes on.

Radiant Dawn: Not very good.

Shadow Dragon & NEW mystery of the emblem. A subpar remake of 1 and 3 (which itself was a remake of 1 + some extra). Also added in avatar combat. At least that's what I've heard since I never actually bothered to play these ones.

Awakening: Waifus. Also the map design is pure trash, you can grind characters endlessly so everyone is at stat cap, and the skill system is completely broken.

Fates; Birthright: ABSOLUTE GARBAGE.The reason you were supposed to pick this route was because it was the EZ mode with the better story but because every part of Fates story is irredeemably shit there is nothing propping up the mind numbing gameplay.

Conquest: Really really good map design. You should probably play it, just ignore the story altogether.

Revelations: Mostly reused maps from the other 2 with some gimmick added on. You have access to almost all the units but you get some of the fun ones so late they're pointless.

>>377023413
No you can't. Birthright wishes it has the equivalent map design with the map layouts and enemy design as Conquest. I mean look at chapter 21 for both routes and see how the faceless stats' and map layout in each one contrast with each other.

>>377007372

Can I expect good story or writing from this one, or is it gonna be the same trash as Awakening and fate ?

>>377019949
Huge fucking meme. Compared to Awakening/Birthright its good, but it suffers from writing, characters, and the only gameplay improvement is from Awakening's fuck up.

It's parroted because there were a few good maps and because it generates (You)'s from older fans/people pissed at the localization

>>377023640
retarded awakening baby detected

>>377023683
Gaiden's story was simple as fuck but it worked. Echoes is just that but expanded on and a shit ton of world building and much needed exposition thrown in.
Hell, it actually improves on Awakening's setting as well.

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>>377023843
>shits on awakening
>awakening baby

>>377023683
The characters are alright and not as trope heavy liked Awakening or Fates. All the new world building and shit is pretty good. The dragon isn't actually a dick this time. Rudolf did nothing wrong.
I guess the only thing that's pretty shitty is Celica is still a fucking retard, although by that point you stop playing as her shortly after.

>>377020980
I'm in the UK and going to Estonia which to my knowledge would also be a part of the PAL region so i'd not have to worry so much about region locking unless im mistaken.

Can anyone confirm this?

>>377023640
>Radiant Dawn: Not very good.
Not even decided to give reasons why while you do for others? Fuck off. RD is great.

>>377023437
Right, the era where the second game in the series was 180 from the predecessor

promote villages asap or at 10 for extra growths maybe?

>>377025108
asap

maybe it is because gaiden was always the literally who of fire emblem and has radically different gameplay compared to every other one.

>>377024778
I really didn't like it very much, mainly because I felt it did most everything a little bit worse than PoR which is probably my favorite after 4.

If you want an actualy list of what I disliked about it:

Supports were neutered because buddy support. Took out some of my motivation to replay the game.

Forging felt a bit too good, but I dunno maybe that was just me.

That terrain height shit was kinda cool but also felt like the worst implementation of it I've seen in any SRPG.

Aside from those things I just felt the maps were just kinda mediocre. Not terrible per se, but just mediocre. Nothing really stood out to me.

I will say that because I disliked it when first playing it I haven't touched it in like 6 years so maybe my opinion would change now that I'm more into the series but for my thrid FE game it really disappointed me compared to SS and PoR.

Important question: does this have maps with different objectives? I hated that in Awakening and SD had it as well, but the latter get a pass because it was a 1:1 remake.

>>377023640
>Radiant Dawn not very good
>having taste this shit

of the fire emblem games released in english
FE10>FE7>FE14C>FE9>FE8>FE13>FE11>FE14B/R

Anyone else waiting to pick this up along with a New 2DSXL? My old 3ds is pretty worse for wear and I'm hoping for a package deal like awakening had.

>>377007372
Awakening was ok

Fates was absolute trash

Path of radiance is the goat

>>377025817
Aside from the Rudolf and Duma fight all the maps in Gaiden are route.
Just another Gaiden thing.

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>>377026040
>FE10>FE7>FE14C>FE9>FE8>FE13>FE11>FE14B/R
>Tfw I had more fun with Birthright than I did with Conquest

>>377026967
Literally how?

>>377026967
That's called having shit taste.

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>>377026987
I'm a storyfag/character fag
And since ISIS loved hoshido characters, they made them the best and Birthright has honestly a really good story.

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It just feels weird saying that is Fire Emblem

>>377027376
Well Gaiden is the black sheep for a reason.
Dungeon crawling was also in Gaiden, if you even call it that. They were more like travelling an open field like an RPG with random encounters here and there. At least Echoes makes them more like proper dungeons.

Didn't the English CIA leak already? I guess I'm not really surprised people would rather have threads about some shitty gacha instead

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Hidari wont be FE's main artist or remake artist for too long

hell this is probably just KT's way of doing a bit of a trade, Hidari does the character design for gaiden and KT makes FEmusou

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>>377007372
Leon is a homo.

>>377029225
Shit game is sodomite propaganda. Every time.

>>377023161
Did FE6 also have this map? Or was it just something very similar?

>>377029907
There's a Sacae map that's has a similar layout, but you start in the south

>>377028437
Yeah.
I backed up my Jap save and imported it into the English version.
The dub is good. Definitely a step up from Fates.
And fuck, I was expecting Zeke to sound more bishie but his voice is fucking deep.

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>>377027376
Well, what did you want?

>>377030170
>We will never get the true SMT x FE people wanted
Will forever hurt. So what did everyone think it would be?

>>377030138
Are there lots of battle dialogue that you miss out on with an undub? And would you say Celica is better in JP or English? I usually prefer undubs but she seems rather high pitched compared to the English performance and I don't recognize a lot of the JP voice actors this time compared to heavy hitters like Sawashiro in Fates.

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>>377021951
>large maps with nothing on them
Discarded. Every map in FE4 and some of 5's maps that are large are automatically shit

>>377030138
>And fuck, I was expecting Zeke to sound more bishie but his voice is fucking deep.
Do we have a video of his Dub? Or at least know the VA so I can look up some clips of him?
I really hope they don't fuck him up

>>377030763
>SMT x FE
Devil Survivor 1 and 2 have been out for years.

>>377030936
>>large maps with nothing on them
Alright you can shut the fuck up now

>>377007372
No. I'm done with FE except for the Warriors game. Hopefully there'll be a few characters in that game that I like.

>>377030763
It was always going to be a game made by Atlus.

Their SRPGs fucking blow, which isn't what you'd want out of a Fire Emblem crossover.

It'd also be boring as fuck to have a bunch of undefined personality characters meet up for the crossover in a bad SRPG, because Namco has the market cornered on that with SRW, NxC, PXZ, etc.

Instead we got a good Megaten game out of a good Megaten developer.

>>377026967
I believe you, conquest is the same shit as Birthright minus 2 or 3 maps that standout in conquest. People overrate that shit

>>377030763
You mean before it was officially revealed?

I remember someone half-guessed that FE units will be redesigned to look closer to Megaten demons and the game won't used Atlus' standard library of demons.
I think more people expected the merge of concepts instead of PxZ type of crossover. Nobody expected idols though.

>>377031010
Majin tensei has been out for decades newfag

>every tbsrpg is fire emblem

>>377030981
Not that guy.
http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1494869936805.png
>no Laura Bailey for Palla
I've been told Alexis Tipton voices Palla, but then who voices Clair?

>>377030138
Besides the 8 revealed in Heroes, if they all share the same voice actor, can you recognize who voices who?

So they changed some spell names.
Angel is now Seraphim
Dear is now Expel
Arrow is now Sagittae

Some other things as well.
All the names that were used in the fan translation made it, besides the occasional alt spelling (Cliff and Kliff) and the Robin/Tobin thing.
Levin Sword isn't coined, so it's called the Lightning Sword still.

>downloaded the cia
>have it on main menu for hours

i have no motive to play this game help

>>377009234
No you wouldn't. The gameplay is very different. The map design is nothing like the map design in Sacred Stones.

>>377031354
ITS FUCKING OUT?

>>377030936
FE4 has shit map design, nobody defends this unless they're fishing for (You)s

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>>377030763
Majin tensei is a literal FE clone and died a horrible death with ronde.

IS didn't wanted make another SRPG because it would be too cheap and DeSU also exists. And #FE isn't bad to boot.

>>377031332
Good to see 9S from Nier A getting more work.

>>377030138
How about doot? Is her voice fucked?

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>>377012045
I'm playing Echoes because I'm bored and I can finally understand the plot. Gaiden is shit.

>>377031074
I'm not wrong. Large maps are shit because horse units get such advantage and you do nothing but move from castle to castle.

>>377031435
even the undub is out i installed that not listening to same old american voices all the time even with the 8-4 rewrites messing up dialogue

>>377012140
>Trusting reviews when most of them said Awakening is great and some even said a masterpiece.

>>377031697
THANK YOU FUCKKNH SSHIT I HAVE ART CLASS IN 2 HOURS GODDAMN

>>377031489
>>377031332
Unfortunately my ability to pinpoint english VAs is pretty trash. However you can definitely recognize a lot of voices. Their names are on the tip of my tongue but I just can't remember.
Also, my save file is right at the Duma fight so I'm just going off on what I can hear. It helps though since everyone has a brief monologue before you move them.

>>377031646
>capture castle
>small scene of regent of next castle going "we need to retake castle!!!"
>repeat until chapter over

>>377031749
You'll never learn how to be Hidari from art class anon

>>377031774
Sounds like FE1 desu

>>377031489
She sounds older than she looks

Well I like Zelda 2, so bring it on

How do I promote the villagers?

where is the .cia
i just want to beat it as fast as possible and shit on it, like i do with all nu fe games

>>377032413
Goddess statues most commonly found in dungeons. You'll know there's one in an area when it has the icon next to the name.

>>377031128
I am wondering how Warriors is going to be. Kind of worried it will be 90% Awakening and Fates. But Koei tends to have a good understanding of the community when making their IP musou games. Zelda was damn near perfect outside of OC shit (at least the story was so batshit insane that I honestly was kind of happy for it) and Agitha which I'm still baffled why the fuck did they pick her. Plus the DLC were all well worth it.

>>377031772
Nintendo pretty much always use the voice union so you would see the same voice work over and over again. That's one of my issue is hearing the same voice actor in multiple games can really mess with your head.

>All these voiced death quotes that I can finally understand.
>Delthea
>Faye
>Tatiana
>Genny
>Even some of the guys
Fuck. They really want to hit you in the gut with some of these.

>>377030919
There's flavor dialogue during battles now and characters like to comment on stuff and since everything's voiced. It's not a whole lot but if you're a person who likes to know that stuff then it might irk you.
I'm kinda liking English Celica a bit more so far. JP Celica's good and all, but I just tired of hearing her while and bitch in nip so far so Imma just wait until she starts bitching in the English dub before I come to a solid opinion.

I hope this is better than Awakening. The dungeon crawling is a turn on for me.

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>>377029225
Interesting that they stopped pussyfooting around and did this outright. People are gonna be pissed though

>>377035312
He was like that in the nip version as well, although I don't remember if it was as outright as that.

>>377029225
Homos have been in FE since forever. The japs don't fucking care.

>>377035434
I'm talking about the writers. Hell, if Fates is any indication, translators seem to like toning down the blatant homosexuality.

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>>377031332
Some voice actors can do more than one character, you know. Clair definitely sounds like Alexis Tipton from what I've heard in prerelease footage, though it wouldn't surprise me if she's Palla as well since she seems to be consistently getting roles that Laura Bailey doesn't do anymore.

>>377007372
I already played it and it's amazing, best jrpg of the year so far.

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>>377036630
Those are some strong words for how stellar this year has been already.
I hope you're right but I struggle to believe it.

>>377036630
I doubt that very much, but I hope it's good enough for me to consider it as one of the better jrpgs of this year

Did they change the accuracy for this game? I've never had something with an 80% chance to hit miss so often, and apparently anything below that is just nearly impossible to hit.

>>377034743
Thanks anon, I'll go for the dub

>>377037303
Might be 1RN like the pre-GBA titles.

>>377037303
Gaiden uses 1 RN right? I'd actually be surprised if they did changed it to 2 for the remake.

>>377012045
that must be so fucking confy walking around in those boots

I only played Awakeining, got 3ds now.
Can somebody please give me quick rundown on all the FE games released in the meantime and if they are worth a playthrough?

>>377037445
>>377037586
It definitely feels like it is. Enemies have no problem landing those 40% hit chances over and over, I don't feel like a scrub for using the rewind function since it feels like I'm being cheated half the time.

I never played Awakening and instead went to Fates, which I found had horrible writing all around that made it unenjoyable for me.

What are the odds I would enjoy this game?

>>377038406
If you care about writing then Echoes is already leagues ahead compared to Fates.

>>377007372
>Think the Japanese sales figure showing the dip in people's interest in Fire Emblem?
The japs know it's a shit game.

>>377038241
Start with Blazing Sword, gives you a good rundown on the mechanics and how they work in the early tutorial, just look up how to do supports and you're good.

Then go on to Sacred Stones, Path of Radiance, and Shadow Dragon for some easy, but fun games.

Then once you're ready for something a little bit tougher, try Sword of Seals(Blazing Sword sequel), Geneology of the Holy War, and New Mystery of the Emblem(Shadow Dragon sequel). If you must play Fates for whatever reason, only bother with Conquest and ignore the story. Birthright and Revelations are shit.

Then when you want a real challenge, move onto Thracia and Radiant Dawn.

FE1, FE2, and FE3 are kind of pointless to play now because of the superior remakes.

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>>377038406
Fates had the most astronomically bad writing in Fire Emblem, and likely ranks pretty high on a list of worst writing in video game history. If that was your primary issue then Echoes will probably work out a lot smoother for you. Though it's a remake of a very old game and the map design stayed faithful, so it's considerably outdated in that regard, If you're not the type to be bothered by that sort of thing, then you oughta be good to go.

>The Village already makes references to Kliff being a mage, Tobin an archer, and Gray a merc.
Neat.

>>377038782
>IS talks about how shitty Awakening writing was
>The one thing they were happy they improved in Fates was the story
It's almost laughable how badly everything was in that game story wise.

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If I turn the voices off does it turn them all off? Like, it won't leave battle voices on or some shit, will it? I just can't fucking stand english dubs.

>>377039173
What's wrong, don't you like awful cartoonish screeching?

>>377039146
I heard they got some famos manga writer do make them a script and then they threw the whole thing out and just made up a bunch of shit on a cocaine fueled bender.

>>377030101
>>377029907
I assumed you meant Ostia, in chapter 7

>New weapons triangle in Fates is red, blue, green
>Swords are red, lances are blue, and axes are green
>"Okay fair eno-"
>ALL magic tomes and scrolls are red
>ALL bows are green
>New weapon shurikens and knives are for some odd reason, ALL blue

Who thought this was a good idea?

>>377038782
>Fates had the most astronomically bad writing in Fire Emblem, and likely ranks pretty high on a list of worst writing in video game history.
>actually believing this
The hyperbole has gone on long enough. Fates isn't that bad you fucking autist.

>>377039416
>A fucking mobage game improved on the weapon triangle of fates

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>>377039330

>>377039290
I guess the manga guy wrote a shit ton but IS felt they needed to fix it up to work in FE. Since each Chapter needs a big fight of some kind. I truly wish somehow the real story gets leaked somewhere and we can see how much IS honestly changed up and what was kept.

>>377039173
BIG HURTY LIGHTNING

I'll play Echoes, but I prefer there being a self insert. Having customized kids is also a neat feature that I'll miss, even if it was hamfisted in Fates.

Yes, I know I'm the cancer that FE fans hate.

>>377038241
>fe1 (shadow dragon and blade of light)
First of its kind, fine game but a bit hard to play by todays standards because of the awful engine
>fe2 (gaiden)
Zelda 2 wacky changeup, very much like a standard famicom rpg
>fe3 (mystery)
Huge improvement over FE1, also contains a flawed remake of it on the cart
>fe4 (genealogy)
Multigenerational epic told through hit-or-miss xboxhueg maps
>fe5 (thracia 776)
The best game in the series imo, refines fe3's gameplay formula and adds to fe4's already great story
>fe6 (binding blade)
Dumbed-down rehash of fe5 made from the tattered remains of a cancelled n64 game, not a bad little title on its own though
>fe7 (blazing sword)
The "Gundam Wing" of fire emblem, arguably a good starting point. Prequel to fe6.
>fe8 (sacred stones)
A step back in some aspects, a step forward in most. The first fe since gaiden to allow optional grinding
>fe9 (path of radiance)
Ike's game, high-quality and consistent
>fe10 (radiant dawn)
Sequel to fe9, better gameplay but kind of ruins the nice plot the precious game set up
>fe11 (shadow dragon)
Another remake of fe1, much better to pick up and play due to not being slow as balls
>fe12 (new mystery)
Remake of fe3, kind of ruins it though and should be avoided, though most people won't tell you that because no one played original fe3 lol
>fe13 (awakening)
Arguably the worst game in the series besides 2 and 14 (rev), boring grindy garbage
>fe14 (birthright)
Like awakening but not as shit, still not good enough to be worth playing though
>fe14 (conquest)
Great game but don't start with it, it'll twist your testicles
>fe14 (revelation)
lol
tl;dr just play 7, 8, 9, or 11 and move from there depending on what you liked and disliked

>>377039416
What's so bad about it?

>>377040037
>>fe13 (awakening)
>Arguably the worst game in the series besides 2 and 14 (rev), boring grindy garbage


Thank god it's not me.

I never understood why this game was so loved by the press and a pretty large community of players despite being so boring.

I'd like to play shadow dragon, how long is it ?

>>377040541
SD is pretty short, it's a remake of a NES game after all. It's only got ~25 chapters and few of them last very long.

>>377007372
I don't know, I got super into FE for a while before Heroes came out, I last started Birthright, but I just can't be arsed for it. Doesn't help that I still have P5 to complete and I want to play PQ and EOU after that.

>>377040530
>Bows now even more useless
>Magic no longer has it's own triangle, and is completely neutered
>Shurikens are broken javelins that can debuff

Magic should've been more varied having red, blue, and green variants. Bows and shurikens should've existed outside the triangle and been neutral.

>>377041005
>Bows now even more useless
Archers are some of the strongest units in Fates. They are literally long range axes with high accuracy.

>>377041005
>Bow now even more useless
>Magic completely neutered
How so?

>>377040541
25 chapters, Plus a 5 chapter prologue, and 5 sidequests which you can only get by killing off your army.
It's not particularly long, especially if you abuse warp staves, but I'd say it was decent and doesn't deserve the bad rep it gets, you probably will end up missing supports and rescue though

>>377041308
That and there exists the mini bow, shining bow and sidelong yumi to fix their range restrictions.

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>>377041005
At least Heroes does exactly that. I hope we'll get this as a base in the Switch game.

>>377007372
>>377012045
>>377012385
>>377018702
>>377021105
I love echoes artstyle, its a lot better than awakening and fates.

>>377041526
This system is shit and unbalanced. Blue Mages have been the main meta forever and has yet to stop. Fates has the perfect triangle they just need to buff magic. Helps that unlike other games the weapon triangle stays in effect throughout the whole game.

>>377024778
>>377025463

FE10 is incredibly polarized. For every great map there's a terrible slog. Some parts of the story are well written while others dip down into Fates-tier retardation. It also doesn't help that support conversations were castrated and unit balance is all over the place.

FE10 was rushed and it shows.

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>Hidari's men
Just when I thought my penis couldn't get more erect, Python appears

>>377041985
I found the higher weapons to be pretty damn useless considering the debuff they give. Was happy archers and mages were finally put into the system.

>>377007372
im interested in reselling the special edition on ebay my dude

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>was gonna bring her down to low health so she would stop casting shit at me
>end up critting her with a 2%

F-fug, it made me really sad for some reason

So where's the .cia out at? I'm only finding the menu patched JPN version around.

>>377041526
heroes is shit

>>377043002
Check the usual place.

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>>377043002
3DS ISO has it.

>>377043090

Not him, but what's the usual place ?

Is there an undub verison ?

>>377043129
Thanks anon

>>377033006
I'm almost sure the main roster will focus on Awakening and Fates. I'd love to be wrong about that, though. I hope dlc will add more characters from other games.

>>377043185
>>377043129

>>377043185
>Is there an undub verison ?
Yes, but I can't pass from the Nintendo 3DS screen.

Fuck, I'd like to install a cfw on my 3ds but the whole process seems like a pain

>>377033006
Give us Lewyn or Ced for a mage character please.

You can keep Robin as a thunder mage, but for the love of everything give us Lewyn or Ced so I can blast shit with Forseti.

>>377042092
HEY STUD

>>377007372
I am. It looks fun.

>>377043962
Levin, Sety, and Pent are the best trio of mages.I'm hoping they do one baller mage, along with the inevitaburu loli mage (hopefullly Lute or Lilina)

>>377033006
Agitha is the little girl, and Koei think with their dick

>>377043325
I'm hoping at the very least we'll get continent themed dlc

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>>377007372
>Not playing today's leak

>>377044621
>Agitha is the little girl, and Koei think with their dick
Of all the lolis they could have picked why Agitha? I mean I guess they didn't want too much OoT but man nothing about Agitha was good. Her design was awful and her combat was even worse. I would have gladly just taken Saria. Or hell if they wanted a TP girl just used whatever the girl that was meant to be your love interest (I guess that's what they were going for) instead for random girl you never really talk to.

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Since the English version got leaked, are we gonna judge the dub now? I would like to see serious translation/localization discussion from those who actually know Japanese but I'm not counting on it

All story cutscenes in English:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD5QgKmn5lY

>>377045119
That would require me to start a new playthrough in English and I really don't feel like it.

>>377044734
Charge your fucking 3DS

>>377045119
>american accents in medieval settings

automatically shit sorry

>>377045340
It's ok, I'm doing it for you.
It's alright.

>>377045119
We've got the memory prisms too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoUCas_8we0

>>377045119
Can you play with the Japanese?

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>>377045764
I forgot to post that. There are fan-translated versions of the memory prisms so we can all sperg out over localization together

>>377046070
Non-Hidari Celica looks like shit.

>>377045764
My first impressions is that it's alright so far, but Silque's English voice is trash.

>>377046070
Any noticeable ones?

>>377046728
I would be sperging out but I'm lazy and don't have the link to all the translated stuff. You can enjoy all the English supports instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIlUe5QyQYc

>>377046885
Claire's voice is so shit.

>>377047148
To me it that type of speech, I don't know what you call it, always sounds wrong in American accents because you never would have heard it like that. Shit like "My lord" or liege always sounds awkward to me.

>>377046885
>2 minutes in and they already added shit to where Claire was just laughing oringally

Garbage, shit, just cancelled my preorder. Can't believe Nintendo always pulls this

Can some anon do a solid and upload the undub on MEGA? the sites the ripper use suck ass and fail half-way on my shitty internet.

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>>377046885
>supports are still written like three parts of a single conversation

>>377049249
They stopped doing that in PoR.
This game was marketing towards nostalgiafags so they went with the shitty GBA format for supports.

>>377007372

The sales dipped in Japan because the game isn't about "You", and you can't marry your waifu and then play a eugenics experiment with the rest of the units.

It'll sell better in the west like it usual does.

> Doesn't have to wait
> Has a review copy of the game
cucks...

>>377049910
Not with how it's been advertised compared to Fates. Besides there are good number of people here who aren't interested in Echoes because of the lack of self inserts and marriage.

>>377049910
The sales dipped in Japan because it's FUCKING GAIDEN.

For those who've played through the game, is it good? I've played FE7, Sacred Stones, and Awakening. I realize Gaiden is the black sheep in the series, so I'm pretty open minded about what to expect when I play Shadows of Valentia? I skipped Fates because of the three campaign shit and hearing about it being underwhelming, is the new game a step up?

>>377050579
It's terrible unless you're one of those faggots who don't play FE for gameplay.

>>377050579
>150$ season pass

What more do you need to know?

>>377050579
Gaiden being the black sheep makes it pretty hard to compare to other FE games; it's already a love it or hate it game.
Maps range from jank to dogshit and was an issue with Gaiden and that didn't change.
The other system mechanics are pretty neat, like magic costing health to cast and mages having an individual spell pool. Dungeon Crawling is alright.
Story and setting wise Echoes expands on Gaiden's barebones setting and plot and gives it a lot of much needed world building. The characters are alright too.
Still, there's a reason why the nip's sales target for Echoes was lower than Fates. It still met them though so I guess it says something.
Personally I like Gaiden and Echoes but there are valid reasons why people don't.

>>377049249
Maybe now the "quantity≠ quality" meme will die off.

>>377050846
If the game is good or not. I'm not buying the 40 dollar season pass, I want to know if the base game is satisfying enough without vague arguments as to why the game is bad or good.

>>377051780
If you really don't care for or mind the whole black sheep thing and can stomach some pretty shitty maps then I say go for it.

>>377051780
>asking for serious assessments from /v/ sperglords
You'd get better advice from Serenes.

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>>377007372
>soon
I'm already playing it

>>377051780
Did you like awakening? Because it's like that with no weapon triangle and no avatar

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>>377053524
SOON

>>377053524
I already beat it 2 weeks ago

>>377055085
I beat it a month ago

>>377010235
Considering who develops this game you are actually right. Feels fucking bad man. The best we might get is Ike and Lyn.

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>tfw echoes flops
>tfw they will take the path of Awakening/Fates with their next games
>mean more waifus
Feelsgoodman.

>>377056961
This is more than likely a filler game. Come back when FE Switch gets some more info released.

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>>377056961
But Echoes has waifus. In fact the best waifu is in the game.

>>377054557
ransomware lol

>>377018702
fucking boobplate is so stupid

>>377057132
>fang
Ruined

>>377056961
It's a graphical remake using an existing engine with a bit of new writing. It would need to sell in the single digits to be a flop.

>>377057115
The devs described it as "the last mainline Fire Emblem on the 3DS"

Considering all the cross promo going for it in the card game and heroes, I don't think they view it as filler like how Shadow Dragon actually had an impact and almost killed the series.

So. How is the writing in this game? I mean the story can be shit as long as the game has good dialogues. I just hope it's better than Awakening and Fates.

>>377057512
It's still filler, but it's more the kind of filler that fills their wallet. Cross-promotion is a money-spinning exercise, and the game itself would have been very cheap to make. This keeps them topped up as they move to the Switch and have to start making proper 3d models for once.