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Alpha Protocol 2 confirmed

https://twitter.com/Obsidian/status/863948426626572289
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>>376999958
More like Beta or Gamma Protocol.
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>>377000041
>beta protocol
>no grils for the protag/player
It's jsut like real life, right?
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>>376999958
>neo-obsidian
no thank you
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>>376999958
Every day until E3!
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I literally cum bc I loved Alpha Protocol but I'd rather have Binary Domain 2
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>Alpha Protocol with actually good gameplay and animations/graphics
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You just know that they'll dumb down the RPG system and make every gun viable to use even for characters with no skill points invested into it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUydx57te9s

Absolute kino.
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>>377000348
>better melee
>more unique pistol skills
day 1 buy
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>>377000275
Don't you mean Sis? Or SIE?
Stupid cunt doesn't even remember best grill's name
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>>377000237
>No Avellone to add memes and out-of-place shit anymore
And thank G-d for that.
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Ha, I'm legit in the middle of a playthrough these past few weeks.

A sequel could be amazing if they fixed the various issues from the first one
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>>377000564
I mean mashing E while drunk as fuck was my favorite part of the martial arts build
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>>377000575
>implying he won't be invited back for such a huge project
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>go to replay Alpha Protocol and see what different decisions lead to
>end up making the same decisions all over again anyway
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>>377000676
>master Fury
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>>377000575
>On June 9, 2015, he revealed that he had departed from Obsidian Entertainment.
Oh cool, I didn't know that. Obsidian might make some good games now.

>On September 25, 2015, Larian Studios announced that Avellone will be working with them on Divinity: Original Sin 2
fucking shit cock
I was actually looking forward to this game.

Why does everyone love sucking his dick so much?
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>>377000843
>everyone bitches about TURN UP THE RADIO fight
>just was running around kung fuing like an idiot and having a great time

I wish I was rich so I could fund AP2 myself.
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>>376999958
A fool's hope, but I'll take it.
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What are some locations to mess around in for a new spy story?

I'm thinking Africa, Central America, and maybe someplace like Dubai to do more tuxedo stuff.
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>>377000348
AP was such a weird case.

>SEGA let all the writing and story to Obsidian
>had wishes and what they wanted done gameplay-wise
>there are perfectly working animations that were unused in the game

For example, I know you can enable better looking crouched sneaking animation than what is in the game proper. It was also Obsidian's first TPS and it shows.
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>>376999958
Ewww. I hope not. It was complete fucking garbage.
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>>377000521
anyone who enjoyed renegade shepard in mass effects owes it to himself to play alpha protocol.
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>>377000912
>>377000575
>beong this contrarian
Tranny sure showed us how a game without him turns out.
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>>376999958
Didn't they do the exact same thing when Paradox purchased The World of Darkness IP?
Nothing came out from that.
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TURN UP THE RADIO AGAIN
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>>377000994
Ukraine
Belgium or EU in general
North Korea
USA
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How many orphans in a sequel can we create?
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>>377001125
These things take time. People forget studios must've had their own plans because they even approached Paradox or were approached by them. For example, upcoming Werewolf game was announced literally couple of weeks after Cyanide signed the deal and had nothing to show for it as the game is still essentially in pre-planning phase. Obsidian in particular have their own projects going on.
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I haven't been hype in a long time anon. thank you.
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>>377001213
Nope, you're just a shill. Fuck off.
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>>376999958
They said major IPs.
Only the most generous of delusional fanboys would consider AP major.
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>>377000912
>Why does everyone love sucking his dick so much?
He wrote and was creative lead for one of the best games of all time, and wrote the best character in another game that's also one of the best of all time.

>>377000994
>What are some locations to mess around in for a new spy story?
I would actually enjoy a more involved approach to regional hubs, where instead of just one country per region you had several operational regions around the globe (say Western/Central Europe, Ukraine/Russia, East Asia) and within those you could visit multiple countries in the course of your missions.
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>>377000994
South America (I liked the contrast of seedy locations and glamorous ones in AP1), Washington DC, North/South Korea.
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>>377001105
I haven't played Tyranny, but wasn't the story in it good?
Either way, anything that he's been involved in, in the last 7 years, has been shit.
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>>377001360
>I haven't played Tyranny, but wasn't the story in it good?

Most RPGs don't have good stories, though. Tyranny is not special in that regard and you get to make serious choices.

>played Alpha Protocol and Tyranny
>no other RPG comes even close to choices you get to make there
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I'd really love some character customization. Thorton is too default looking, I really wanted to make him look like Sam Fisher or something.
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>>377001493
>Thorton is too default looking

He's a spy. They should be unmemorable to blend in.
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female protagonist inc
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>>376999958
Fuck, I hope so. Alpha Protocol is one of my favorite games. It's flawed but I had more fun with that game than most modern games. Alpha Protocol 2 would be fucking awesome. Just love games about spies in general. Daily reminder that Sis is best girl.
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>>377001125
>Nothing came out from that.
That's because Paradox is apparently too busy shovelling out mobile games. They'll get around to making a proper game eventually.

>>377001143
Good choices, anon. I'll go with these, too.

>>377001342
Don't make me get the bleach out, Wen.
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>>377001550
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>romance scarlet
>decide to not fuck her
>in her hotel
>she opens up
>I stay strictly business
>she tries harder to show she loves me
>wave it off
>you can see her swallow her tears as she tries to stay professional and help you when she really just wants someone to confess everything to
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>>376999958
Too bad everyone with talent left Obsidian.
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>>377001668
I loved that Omen Deng commented your outfit when he appeared.
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>>377001668
>Points for considering camouflage, Agent Thorton. But try something that blends in with civilians rather than your surroundings.
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>>377001360
>I haven't played Tyranny, but wasn't the story in it good?

Nothing about Tyranny was good.
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>>377001792
did the same
:^(

syke dumb cunt shouldn't be a spy if she's so fucking miserable about it open an ice cream stand with your profits then if you're so fucking miserable marry a carpenter fuck do i care
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>>377001668
>Always rock my hawaiian shirt
>omen loves me for doing that

>>377001823
Its insane how he manages to pull off the animu clothing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnP2eouYGOc

Post a better sex scene, I'll wait.
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>>377001823
>Martial Arts stealth battle with Omen Deng
Martial Arts with stealth and Brilliance is seriously the most fun thing ever.
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>>377001823
Is there a more fashionable and memorable antagonist than Omen?
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>>377001959
blood did shoot into my benis. did not expect to get raped in my vidyer, or that I'd like it desu
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>>377002093
it's not rape if you enjoy it
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>>377001125
i can almost guarantee you that it will come out eventually. paradox knows they are sitting on gold. it has to be done right. i just hope it's not an isometric game
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>>377002341
>paradox knows they are sitting on gold

a dead tabletop RPG IP that's never produced a successful game, about 10 years after vampires stopped being popular?
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>>377002426
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>>376999958
Good
I like the idea of a espionage rpg

But AP story was a bit dull
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>>377002426
the game has a cult following
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>>377002670
it was a character driven story. the plot was cliche, but it wasn't the focus
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>>377000751
>implying he would come back

He fucking hates Obsidian now.
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Wait, hold up. Avellone isn't with Obsidian anymore. Why are they doing this? How fucking disrespectful can you get?
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>>377001051
>there are perfectly working animations that were unused in the game
Sauce? There's nothing on the game on The Cutting Room Floor.
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>>376999958
>not FO5
>not new TES

who cares?

Obsidian is best as saving bethesdas doomed series not creating their own doomed series
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>different handlers give different bonuses
>each handler also has a different bonus depending on whether they like you or not
>95% of the game your handler is Mina

Ah, Obsidian. Always with the unfinished games
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>>377003302
Originally AP was written by Mitsoda and then rewritten by Avellone when Mitsoda threw a shit fit and left Obsidian.
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>still dick riding obsidian after everyone of note is gone and they haven't made anything of value since the NV DLCs
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>>377003395
>bethesdas doomed series

FO4 has sold like 25m.
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>>377003484
>everyone of note is gone
Can you name anyone other than Avellone and Gonzales?

Sawyer and Tim Cain still work there
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Alpha Protocol had awesome RPG mechanics and progression. If Sega hadn't rushed it out the door, it'd probably be a franchise by now.
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>>377003553
Based Balance man and based Alzheimers man
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>>377003484
>Tim Cain and Leo Boyarsky are no-names
sure thing Todd

>>377003553
Fenstermaker and Ziets
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>>377003604
Based no answers man
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>>376999958
The only writer left from Obsidian's good games is Fenstermaker. And that's if you think he didn't shit the bed with PoE.

Everybody else is gone.
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>>377003553
>>377003612
At least we agree that everything that they've made since NV is outright dogshit!
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>>377003395
Obsidian is the place franchises go to die.
No game Obsidian worked on got a sequel until Fallout.
Bethesda dodged a bullet.
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>>377003553
>can you name people that left, but not include people that left
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>>377000271
I don't think anyone who can die in the game is going to come back, anon. It's time to let her go.

>>377001125
It still hurts but then again making a game also takes a fuck ton of time if you're only operating with a skeleton crew.
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>Sis comes back as a romance option
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gee whiz can't wait to ignore the alpha protocol 2 kikestarter
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Holy shit.
I NEED this
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>game is a prequel set in 70's era spy realm where you work alongside Parker and Marburg
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>>377003879
>obsidian bows to sega and makes a shitty stat-based shooter instead of a normal fps
>but obsidian refuses to make sis a romance option

This is why companies fail.
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>>377003679
Pillars was alright. I'm looking forward towards the second one. Adventures on the high seas!
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>>377001959
>Mike recovers the recording of what happened there
>He watches it a couple hundred times after the game
>No one else knows what's on it
>It's the most sought after recording in the world
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>confirmed
it's them saying they wouldn't mind, most likely. I highly doubt they've been approached cause alpha protocol is far from a major IP, it's one of the most minor IPs in the sega repertoire. Less notable than binary domain, and that's a difficult fucking feat to achieve.
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>>377001959
How come this wasn't taken down by youtube yet?
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Amazing how /v/ will be contrarian to the fullest
Alpha protocol is a literally a broken mess
One of the worst games I ever played but let's act hyped because the rest of the planet says that it sucks
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>>377002689
A cult following that couldn't save Troika out of bankruptcy, anon. So that's like a couple hundred of players at max.
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>>377004116
Shit taste detected
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>>377004116
What exactly are you saying is so broken about it that makes it unplayable?

I've been replaying it and the only thing that annoys me is the checkpoint saving system, but it did come out like 10 years ago so.
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>>377004116
What's broken about it?
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>>377004023
No. Pillars was alright for maybe half a game. Act 3 was pure trash.
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>>377003484
I liked PoE and Tyranny. Dunno about their tank game. It looks cool at least. I like tanks.
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>put bullet in sis
>albatross calls me all buttmad I shot his daughteru
>tell him it was selfdefence
>he realises you are right and backs down
>still sulky
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>>377004204
>>377004214
Everything, just admit it.
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>>377004190
>>377004204
>>377004214
Thanks for proving me right
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>>377004237

Act 1 was trash, anon. Act 3 was the height of the game.
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>>377004184
Just like all great things, it gained the cult following years after it's release.
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>>377000994
South america,maybe brazil in particular
Turkey
China
And Germany for the token europe country
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>>377004297
No. Make a point or fuck off.

>>377004301
>make a retarded statement
>get sensibly asked to defend it by at least pointing out why you made it
>"LOL JUST PROVED ME RIGHT"

Retard.
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>>376999958
>Alpha Protocol
>Major IP
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>>376999958
They better not be fucking with us. I really want another one.
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>>377004443
Arguing why alpha protocol is bad is like arguing why you shouldn't eat shit
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>>377002510
Edgy vampires is fedora shit, exactly.
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>>377004603
Do you follow their twitter account? They're always fucking around. I dunno why fell for the bait.
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>>377003879
Sis isn't even that g-
>get to be Albatross' son
YES!
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>>376999958
So who's going to write it? The Bioware-tier Tyranny writers?
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>>377004190
>>377004204
>>377004214
Not him but it is a broken mess. I remember dozen of glitches, some made the game impossible to play and the AI was so fucking bad that they would stand right up against a wall, facing it so you could take them down. However i did love the game because of the story but that's about it, everything else is pretty lame objectively.
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>>377004746
You have nothing.
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>>377000041
omega sanction more like

you DID finish the game right?

he drives off in a boat with a giant ass OMEGA symbol on it, after dealing with a multinational megacorp fucking up the world AND fucking about in a black ops off book not-three-letter-agency.
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>>377005068
The only good thing about the game is the somewhat interesting story, but even that is nothing special really

Gameplay, level design, the rpg elements, shooting, stealth, melee combat, literally every other part of the game that isn't that passable story is broken and sucks
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>>377003879
y-yes please
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>>377001959
SIE is a natural wonder of the VIDYA universe
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new story would have to be semi-rogue thorton running and/or being part of an agency that is ostensibly mandated to be the omega sanction last resort against companies and intelligence operations like halbech and AP
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>>377005686
it would be hard to link Thorton's AP deeds to a new game, i think, since there are so many possibilities at the end of that game(you either become everyone's ally or become noone's), so i think they're gonna pussy out on even touching Thorton's indentity in a new game
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>>377005686
Nah, leave Thorton as a legend in the espionage world and make the game with a brand new protagonist
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>>377005934
This. A new protagonist with a new agency and do some real spy shit, same options but improved gameplay.
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>>376999958
Please tell me Avellone is going to be writer for it
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Happy surprise, but with the current political situation in games, it's gonna be awful.
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I'm not getting my hopes for anything.

Especially since Avellone left Obsidian.
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>>377006016
>>377005934
>>377005851
>New MC is a girl
>Still get to fuck other girls
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Is this official at all?
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If Obsidian end up making it, it will be garbage just like the first one. And I don't see any western devs that could pull it off but aren't already owned by some other large publisher.
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>>377000431
They might even make every gun viable for characters with points invested into them.
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>>377006450
What has Avellone actually written, by himself, that was any good?
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>>377000271
>no Avellone
>thinking there will be a single good character, let alone a non nu-female girl
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>>377000818
I made the most random, retarded decisions in Alpha Protocol.
>Co-operate with Sie
>No reason to distrust her
>She gets captured
>Go into rescue her
>Find her tied to a chair
>Game gives me the option "Free Sie - Kill Sie"
>"What, why would I kill her? They wouldn't actually let me do that, right?"
>Click "Kill"
>Thorton puts a bullet in her fucking skull, no second thoughts or remorse whatsoever
>mfw
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>>377006450
>be forced to do the nathan drake voice for countless games
>finally get to do a psycho VA job
>its fucking great

I still hate it how it turns out he is actually a CIA guy
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>>377004116
Typical/v/.
Alpha Protocol as a game sucked. It had some cool concepts, too bad Obsidian did such a shit job actually executing the finished product. It was a classic 5/10 game, yet fags here talk about it as if it were a classic.
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>>377006825
Isnt it revealed at that point SIE has ties to marburg?
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>>377001360
>>377001492
>>377001865
Avellone fanboy here. Lantry, Barrick and Siren were good.
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>>377004214
Are you serious?
Stealth
pistol spec
martial art spec


It is easy as fuck to break the game and be a God.
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>>377006886
Obsidian has always been more ambitious than talented.
It is why /v/ loves them and most people have never heard of them.
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>>377006762

Planescape: Torment, one of my most favorite games, if not the favorite, KOTOR 2, Alpha Protocol and a decent portion of NWN 2 - Mask of the Betrayer.
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>>377007069
>by himself
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>>377006862
wait when's that revealed? i've only ever sided with him/been + and his secret fact states he's not
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>>377006929
I don't remember the game's story at all, I just remember being surprised at some of the decisions it allowed. I killed Sis too. Mute bitch just shows up and attacks me out of nowhere then refuses to respond to my questions. No mercy just for being cute.
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>>377006929

Yeah, and she hates Marburgs guts so much that she will like you more if you managed to kill him prior.
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>>377007102
>one other person saw this thing he was working on
>HE DIDN'T WORK ON IT ALONE, SO IT DOESN'T COUNT

You're that kid.
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>>377003879
only if I get awkward to have awkward breakfast conversation with her dad
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>Replaying with Veteran mode NG+
>Accidentally tagged tehnical aptitude instead of Sabotage
>Trying to lockpick anything in Taipei

I fucking love AP despite its glaring issues but that made me stop mid-game for good.
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>>377007246
No, you tell me what Avellone has personally written or you can fuck off

I'm not accepting "Avellone worked on good games therefore he is a good writer" as an answer like you, you cocksucking faggot. I am not going to give a shit whether or not he is working on a game if you cannot point out what he has actually contributed to the games he has previously worked on.
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>>377007160
yeah but marburg is part of the alpha protocol goons so there is still enough of a reason to shoot her if you feel like it. Hell you might not know she hates marburg and shoot her due to your lack of knowledge. Its almost like the game gives you options and rewards gathering intel.
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Hopefully, this time AP will have a good art direction
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>>377001342
it'd be pretty hilarious if it turned out Sega commissioned Obsidian to make a new Phantasy Star
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>>377007580
Or Sonic
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>>377000953
I'm glad I'm not the only one who just spammed E through every single boss fight. Melee was OP as fuck.
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I'm a really big fan of Obsidian. I played Alpha Protocol for the first time a fe years ago. I remember liking it, especially all the decisions I got to make which were really difficult.

I came from for the summer a couple weeks ago, and I haven't had anything to do besides work. Decided to re-play alpha p just for the sake of it.
Fuck, it's pretty bad boys. The fucking hacking mini games are absurdly annoying. And omnipresent. The gun play is outrageousely bad, I don't give a fuck if it's stat based it's just terrible. It's ugly as sin, and repetitive. All the levels feel the exact same. It's a huge chore just to get to the next bit of dialogue.

Also, why give me so many things to buy on the black market when I can afford 1% of them. I was meticulous in collecting money and could barely afford a piece of info and a mod for my pistol.
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>>377001342

What other Major IP has Sega ever published for Obsidian?
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>mfw too dumb to catch the implications of who's with who but still dismantled a big cabal and forever remembered as legendary spy
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>>377007843
>What ... major IP has SEGA ever published for Obsidian?
nothing. Obsidian is probably working on a major IP they've never developed for before
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>>377005851
>>377005934

nah man you WORK for him as a custom made #CHARGEN. he's the voice-on-the-radio

they'd have to make the start of the game a ''what did you do in AP 1'' questionaire type thing so you could simulate your ap world state into the 2nd game. maybe in your 'recruitment / exam stage of the game during chargen you have to answer a 'test' on the 'history' of the Omega Sanction Unit... or some shit. so you can build the start of the game out your way.

>SIE as a Crotchety rangemaster and armory officer
>mina as a pissed off ' how could you still be with SIE, mike' intel/communications
>sis returns as MALE chargen only romance option
>females get HECK
>scarlet is locked up in mike's rape dungeon, i mean 'holding cell'
>madison is now a HUGE anti black op intelligence fucking the world and big govt is evil polly who is now a major antagonist trying to shut you down or kill you (because she's retardedly hateful for mike saving her)
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>>377006968

>every single ''boss fight'' becomes a joke when you can stealth run up the side of them and then out 6 pistols rounds through the left eye socket from a 3 star pistol
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>>377006547
>have to "pretend" to swing either way to seduce targets as honey trap
would buy
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>>377007897
you REALLY need to hack every motherfucking thing and buy all intels for ever and ever.
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>>376999958
I want to believe.
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>>376999958
For the fucking love of god please make another one.
I have fucking played that game to death and each time got a slightly different ending or learned something I didnt know.
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>yfw ywn roughly fuck prisoner scarlet in the cunt whilst SIE mounts a big ass strapon to violate Scarlet's shithole as Scarlet cries and screams
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Sega: We're finally doing what everyone wanted, we're reviving our old beloved IPs as big budget titles

Everyone celebrates

Sega: When you think of sega, you think of shitty western games made by the shittiest western devs who have literally never had a successful game ever right?
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>>377000271
I killed her.
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>>377003457
This is wrong
Matt McLean was the lead for AP after mitsoda left
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>>377004284
It's been years since I played AP, and I still remember that. Fuck that guy for acting like I'm the asshole for defending myself against a literal child soldier that HE sent at me.
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>>377008448
i fucking did too.

after helping her out so fucking much and being nothing but straight and honest with her, she turns around and does that

>mikes face when he shoots scarlet right in the fucking head and doesn't even let her tell him ''i love you'' whilst her cunt is still full of mike's spooge
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>>377008389
>Literally never had a successful game
Im pretty sure Total war series and Football manager are always sure fire hits.

Actually sadly, I can't think of an amazing Japanese Sega game in recent memory other than PPT.
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>>377008587
HE didn't send SIS after or AT you, g22 was there to do the exact same shit you were there for. Sis is just a nutter,
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>>377008604
You cant trust anyone in Alpha Protocal.
The worse betrayal is the truth about Mina and why everything in the game happened.
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>>377007724
>try to melee boss
>get their stupid regenerating shield down
>combo ends and the damage stops
>forced to resort to shooting them with no weapon skills

I think I was doing it wrong
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>>377008776
Remind me again?
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>>377001823
Raidou grew up.
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>tfw killed Sis in my only save that I have left on my PC.

Fuck. I don't want to play through this game again to have a good save file to carry over.
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>>377008873
Mina sent the missiles at you and cut off your coms while you were reporting in.
She was an NSA plant and was working to bring down Alpha Protocal and used you get information on them.
The agency thought you went rogue after the Shaheed hit and wanted you brought back or dead.
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>>377008873
Mina is working for another American intelligence service to bring down Alpha Protocol and Halbech

Halbech doesn't betray Mike and Mike doesn't betray Halbech, it's Mina lying to both sides to force Mike to go rogue and take down the people now trying to kill him
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>>377000237
>bigger levels and probably better gameplay in exchange for shit writing
eh
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>>377008370
>not first personally deflowering her butthole before offering it to your gal SIE and then impregnate her
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>>377008989
>>377008992
wtf I hate mina now.
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>>377009236
>chink
>not hating her from the get go

Nigger.
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>>377009070
OBVIOUSLY, i mean, AP 2 mike will OBVIOUSLY have scarlet locked up in the rape dungeon, because FUCK HER
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>>377008989
>>377008992
Wtf when is this revealed I do not remember this
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>>377009360
If I remember correctly you have to have all her info and secrets, you have to make her hate you and you have to attempt to save her in the final stage.
She will comment that she wished the missiles she sent at you had just killed you at the start or something like that.
Blew my fucking mind when I learned that Mina is the whole reason you had to go rogue and was burned by Alpha Protocol.
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>>377000963
fake n gay
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>>377000521
>All right, Mike. But before you do...
>*BANG BANG*

Cool as ice.
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>SId
>SIs
>SIe

What did they mean by this?
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>>377009751
sissies rule alphas drool
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>>377009881
SIE can rule my Alpha's drool if you catch my drift
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>>377009349
>Wake up next to madison, who got back together with you again after becoming a successful politician
>tell her you got to go to work
>drive to a military base
>meet SIE
>go down to the rapedungeon to torment scarlet
>fuck her up the ass while she begs you to fuck her pussy so she can at least feel like a woman
>in reality she is afraid she starts to like getting her butthole violated
>leave her and jump on the chopper with SIE to do some merc stuff
>after causing another bloodbath push SIE down in the blood of the fallen enemies and make love to her
>fly back
>SIE straps on her strapon for scarlet her evening fuck while you hurry home to pretend to be a good husband to madison
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>>377009962
Gotta be honest, I didn't catch that drift
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>>377010092
>>fuck her up the ass while she begs you to fuck her pussy so she can at least feel like a woman
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>>377008776
>not getting the gay boat party ending
You can always trust ya boy Steve
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>>376999958
As long as that absolute madman Steven Heck returns.
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>>377010326
mah perverted nigga.
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>>376999958
first one was great
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Loved this fucking game, as much as Sega fucked it and Obsidian wasn't ready for a game of this scale.

Remember that Sega delayed it for half a year, but just had it on the shelves for no reason, not letting Obsidian do any work to fix the obvious tweaking it needed. And this was the game that for some reason they put in the classic "Sega!" jingle at the logo, right out of the old Sonic.
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MUH MINA TANG
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>>377010743
Absolutely disgusting
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TURN IT UP
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>>377010092
>sex slave starting to like it
oh my
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>>377010743
best girl
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>>377009360
it's the dossier information from the CIA listening post in rome. after you pick that up you get a dossier option in your final conversation with mina where she tells you she's a rat. that's why leland makes you kill her if you join halbech.
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>>377007780
I think merely calling the gameplay bad is an understatement. It's literally shovelware-tier.
If the story wasn't so modular I sincerely doubt anybody would ever want to play it twice.
It's one game where Hamburger Helper's skip gameplay button would actually be a major improvement.
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>>377010092
this guy gets it.

scarlet is for abuselewds
Madison is for pure lewds
Sie is for rough angry violent lewds

>sis is for cleanup duties swallowing her sticky wicket
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>>377010838
Beta Protocol better have a boss fight with Radar Love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf53Pg2AkdY
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>>377010838
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>>377011040
SIS is for necrophilia while albatross is watching
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>>377008604
>>377010425
>People dislike and distrust Scarlet for Taipei
>People love Heck
>Heck was responsible for the entirety of Taipei and Scarlet wasn't, since she just pulled the trigger (with a shot to the body even if she knows you've already warned Sung)
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>>377011095
>not throatfucking sis with your ass, cum and pussy grool slathered cock after a visit to scarlets prison cell with SIE while she mutely tires to choke and gag it down
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Reminder to not play alpha protocol on hard
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>>377011136
Can you explain how Heck is responsible? I don't remember that
Anyway, we love Heck because if he was gonna double cross you he'd just say it right to your face. Also, I like Scarlet
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>>377011040
>>377011095
>>377011229
Delete this right now you fuckers, SIS is pure. PURE!
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>>376999958
>Avellone
Who is this guy and why are fans of Obsidian so divided on him?
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>>377011312
G22 are a previous, washed up version of Alpha Protocol

They wouldn't know the meaning of pure if it slapped them in the face with its dick
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>>377011312
>dyed hair
>pure
haha yeah sure
>>377011286
why
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>>377011286
I just put it on easy and max pistols+skill recharge so I can get to the choices part and not the action.
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This thread has convinced me that I know nothing and it's time for a second playthrough. I'm thinking of doing it guns blazing, are shotguns usable?
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>>377011312
bitch pulled out a pair of fucking high calibre revolvers and tried to kill mike just because he killed the ever loving fuck out of her target before she even got on the boat

>damn fucking right she's getting the D pounded into her every and any time mike feels like it
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>>377011427
Everything is usable, it's not a hard game
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>>377011427
>are non-pistols viable/enjoyable
why even ask
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>>377011312
>rape SIS
>she can't even scream
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>>377000818
>finally cave an play a USA playthrough (no stealth, no tranqs, no witnesses)
>Literally nothing but a laugh riot all the way through
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>>377011331
Well I know he was responsible for the Lonesome Road DLC of New Vegas, and it was his take on what Fallout should be. After everyone rebuilds, history repeats itself and there's another wasteland apocalypse and Ulysses was a pretty flat character who had a grudge on the Courier for something the Courier didn't really do.
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>>377011526
>Everything is usable
>>377011427
Everything except SMG
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>>377011427
Shotguns are pretty good, but do also take pistols for longer ranged encounters.
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What was his endgame?
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>>376999958

AP was such a fun game to play, it might not have the most polished gameplay but the story and characters were pretty cool
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>>377011607
Can't people who were born mute usually still makes noises like screaming or laughing? I thought a completely fucked up voice box was just from cancer
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What? Doesn't confirm shit.

Obsidian is always desperate for work, that's their 'thing'.

More news at 11.
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>>377011740
give everybody diarrhea
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>>377011740
To poo
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>>377011331
>Who is this guy?
A good writer.
>and why are fans of Obsidian so divided on him?
A combination of outright or feigned contrarianism, and the fact that he's got a very distinctive style that some people don't like or can't appreciate.

>>377011427
>are shotguns usable?
If you don't care about stealth, they're up there with pistols as the most powerful weapons - aimed critical hits give you guaranteed knockdowns against almost every enemy, and the active skill makes every shot fired an automatic critical for the duration of the skill. Have fun!
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>>376999958
>not a classic old IP like Streets of Rage or Panzer Dragoon
>not something the fan deserately demanded like Virtua Fighter
>not something that actually had potential like Binary Domain or Resonance of Fate

I'll pass, thanks, even if the first game gets a PS4/Xbone remaster that for some miracle fixes all the bugs.
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>>377011740
He pretends not to respond to your codeword to see if the person who gave you to codeword was legit. The CIA telling someone the codeword would also tell them to just pretend to be a computer mechanic. While someone who tries to steal info and got the codeword in any way would panic and either press the issue and blow his cover (which is suspicious) or back down thinking he was in the wrong place.
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What's your favorite order of cities? And do you completely finish a hub before moving on or do you mix & match the missions for maximum meta knowledge application?
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>>377011604
You're missing out if you haven't played a shotgun- or melee-focused run, anon.

>>377011740
>What was his endgame?
Nothing, he was just doing his job, and being smarter about it than 95% of the other spies in the game.

>>377011961
>Hey...
>Cone... to go?
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>Grigori thinks you're the bro of the century just because you don't fire sarcasm at him or act like a cowboy
;_;
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>replayed recently
>Spare Sis because best girl
>actually open up the dossier on her and her amulet
>go meet Albatross
>new dialogue option about the amulet that reveals Albatross is wrong and the amulet depicts St George slaying the dragon to save the princess and that Sis likely sees all three of them as one of those characters, but who they represent in the story is debatable implying that Sis may see Albatross as the dragon, herself as the princess and Mike as St George
>The look on Sis's face of pure joy as someone FINALLY understood her position and the fact she feels trapped
>Albatross relationship -2

Makes me wish at the end of Albatross route Mike adopts Sis and protects her
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>have been putting off playing this game since November of 2015

is it time?
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>>377012336
What. When I mentioned the amulet albatross just was hurt and told me to drop the issue. No description of the amulet or anything.
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>>377012336
What the fuck are you talking about? I've had several playthroughs where I got all dossiers and this never happens. Albatross just goes "oh okay her amulet"
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>>377012449
the locket dialogue option appears twice. you have to choose it both times to get the St. George line.
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>>377012449
>>377012509
No idea all I know is I did Moscow last, hacked every computer I could find and did the Albatross server quiet with no kills and hacked everything.

Triggered right after the 'a childhood momento' talk Albatross gives when you show it. Mike interrupts and says 'actually it depicts saint George'. Also having the dossiers is not enough you have to OPEN them for the info to become available. I'll reinstall and try and get it again for youtube but I think you have to do Moscow last for it to work and hack every computer and find every file in Albatross missions.
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>>377012449
>>377012509
Never mind found it on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n28J8HKfByM
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>>377012943
Was just about to link it as well with a timestamp https://youtu.be/n28J8HKfByM?t=210
I like the "relationship with Sis +1" throughout the video, even though we all know that doesn't lead to jack shit. For all the amazing C&C the game has it's really weird how they included relationships with characters that barely matter to the plot
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>>377012943
>>377012814
I know Albatross isn't the caring father figure for her that he pretends to be but "she can't tell us, she's a mute"? That line just makes absolutely no sense, why the fuck would anyone write that? Does sign language somehow not exist? Does she spend all day cooing like a baby until Albatross guesses what she wants?
How does she report to him? I am completely baffled by this fucking line, goddamnit
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>>377011296
>Can you explain how Heck is responsible? I don't remember that.
It's one of the better-hidden secrets in the game, but it's pretty heavily implied that Heck is Halbech's operation coordinator for Sung's assassination - it's pretty clear once you put everything together. Halbech is aware of him, even though he doesn't appear on any official records and they otherwise have no reason to be aware of him. A Halbech email mentions their operator in Taipei coordinating the operation, including disinformation. There's a CIA email that refers to an ultra-deep-cover asset operating in Taipei. Even though he's apparently off-the-grid, he makes it known that he's apparently got a lead on Sung's assassin. Most tellingly, he already knows Scarlet is the assassin but specifically doesn't tell you, and all the information he does give you points towards Deng. The only info you get that identifies Deng as the assassin comes from Heck, and when Deng arrives in Taipei he coincidentally gets intel that identifies Mike as the assassin. Pretty clever, huh?

Nothing personal, Mikey.
That said, I do really like Heck as a character, and his honesty is pretty refreshing compared to everyone else in the game. And one of the things I love about Alpha Protocol is how if you're not paying attention, you can be completely outplayed by some of the people you run into.
>And I like Scarlet
Good taste, anon. Scarlet a cute and a best for me
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>>377013347
>How does she report to him?
Lip reading if face to face. I think 6:48 sort of implied that.
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>>377013065
its obvious that those are parts of the game they cut. Like at the start you get different handlers with different powers and you can develop each of them. But then you get boned and Mina is your handler for 90% of the missions.
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>>377011401
because it's so badly designed it will completely ruin the playthrough, there is no skill level high enough to mitigate bullshit game throws at you
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>>377013347
>How does she report to him? I am completely baffled by this fucking line, goddamnit
Albatross is basically just saying ''fuck off and stop asking questions about my daughteru, Mike.'' It doesn't have to make sense.
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>>377013447
Then why isnt it a secret part of the intel on heck. All other plot twists are provided by the secret intel, while his never states anything like that.
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To me that looks like obsidian begging for a job
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>>377013347
Honestly if you watch the amulet full reveal Albatross' comment of Sis being mute seems...convenient. Not saying she is not mute, she likely uses sign language or submits reports in writing but the way he says 'she is mute' seems to imply he doesnt want her communicating with anyone else. Not a protective father type of desire but a man who does not like his tools being able to get out of his sight.
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>>377013523
>>377013653
Yeah that's fine if the game implies they communicate like that, it still doesn't excuse the line "hurr durr she can't tell us"
Like, even if he means to ask her about it in private later, that is just such a bullshit thing to say to get Mike to back off about it
It's something no real human bean would ever say in that situation.
>>377013597
What, does hard difficulty somehow make you unable to headshot everyone with a pistol without even sticking your head out of cover?
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>>377007724
Melee was the only reliable way to damage enemies until you get mid-late game and have enough points in a gun skill.

Activate slo-mo kung fu ability, punch and kick 1/3 of boss health bar, do Dark Souls rolling until abilities recharge.
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>>377007716
Sonic RPG 2 confirmed
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>>377013859
Like, imagine if Sis wasn't mute and instead was a Spaniard and Albatross said "well she can't tell us, she only speaks Spanish". That shit's just ridiculous
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>>377013597
>there is no skill level high enough to mitigate bullshit game throws at you
Or you're just fucking shit at games. Beat the game on Hard + Recruit mode
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TURN UP
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>>376999958
>it won't be called Omega Protocol
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Fuck alpha protocol. It was a good visual novel, but an absolute shit RPG due to how your character build choices affected jack shit in the game. Sure, the game was loaded with meaningful C&C up the ass, but that doesn't make it a RPG, it's a VN with guns.

I would rather have Obsidian focus on their own PoE franchise and stop bowing to publisher Jews forever, especially since PoE did really fucking well.
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>>377013526
I don't know if that was cut. That may have just been a red herring.
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Cautiously hyped if true. I love AP, but have a feeeling the neo Obsidian will ruin it and add lots of forced SJW nonsense.
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>>377013685
>Then why isnt it a secret part of the intel on heck.
It's 2secret4you, anon, and it's not really necessary for the player's enjoyment of the game - it doesn't offer you any extra options like some of the other secret facts do, it's just a cool detail for fans who work it out. Maybe they meant to imply that Thorton himself never worked it out?

>>377013859
>that is just such a bullshit thing to say to get Mike to back off about it
Exactly, like I said, it doesn't need to make sense. It's just Albatross telling Mike to drop the subject and Mike being smart enough to back off; it's Albatross' way of saying that he doesn't want her telling Mike.
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>>377013597
Stealth and Kung-Fu build makes the game piss easy even on hard.
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>>377014376
>neo Obsidian will ruin it and add lots of forced SJW nonsense.
Name one SJW thing in any Obsidian game.
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>>377014267
>especially since PoE did really fucking well.
PoE was trash. Call of Duty sells well, that doesn't make it good.
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>>377014267
>you play a role
>there are stats
>how you do missions affects your standing
>there is dialogue which affects the game
>this is not roleplaying
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>>377014410
tyranny
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>>377003484
>nv dlc
>value
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>>377014402
>>It's 2secret4you, anon, and it's not really necessary for the player's enjoyment of the game - it doesn't offer you any extra options like some of the other secret facts do, it's just a cool detail for fans who work it out. Maybe they meant to imply that Thorton himself never worked it out?
how is mina being a traitor necessary for the player's enjoyment. I didnt know and still enjoyed the game enough to play it twice. It could be someone else was some deeply planted agent and heck just got some info from him
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>>377014402
Don't pretend like they're playing some elaborate rhetorical cat and mouse game with the information they reveal, it would definitely fit Albatross's character to just say "okay that's enough of that topic, shut the fuck up about it"
I'm not complaining about the line making no sense in a sterile out of context environment (which it also incidentally doesn't), I'm saying it neither fits the character, nor the situation, nor should Mike just silently accept it
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>>377014416
>PoE was trash.
Your shit opinion is trash. The RPG fanbase has spoken, you are irrelevant.
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>>377011427
pretty much all weapons become OP as shit by the end.
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>>377014447
Arguing about the nature of RPGs on /v/ is so beautiful. You always have people like the faggot you responded to claiming nothing besides p&p is a true RPG, and other faggots saying GTA is an RPG because you play a role
>>377014627
Is Skyrim the best RPG ever made then?
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>>377014157
THE RADIOOOOOOOO

>>377014035
>Beat the game on Hard + Recruit mode
So have I, and he's right in that by halfway through the first hub after Saudi Arabia the game will start throwing the hardest circuit-breaker minigames at you, which are borderline impossible if you get an unlucky layout.
Still, it's not that bad, it just means you have to carry a bunch of EMP grenades around.
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>>377014416
But CoD isn't that bad. It's a playable game series. m
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>>377014267
>he either didn't unlock or didn't notice any of the scenes where Mike's skill or class had an impact
Disappointing, desu
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>>377014793
>Arguing about the nature of RPGs on /v/ is so beautiful
Its more like its useless. RPGs cover a wide variety of games and the use and misuse of the term makes it hard to decide what is an RPG and what not. However labeling this game as a VN is stupid since it contains a lot of gameplay as well. Let alone it misses a lot of systems associated with VNs like backgrounds with talking heads and a couple of CGs.
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>>377014793
>compares an isometric party based RPG to a shooter
>then compares the same isometric party based RPG to a TP/FP action RPG
>compares games outside of their genre at all
Say no more senpai, you've conveyed the fact that you're retarded well enough.
>>
There's this one hallway in the embassy where you're hiding in cover behind a desk and there's 3 people looking straight at your cover without any way to go around besides an office off to the side whose other exit is STILL within their view
To this day I don't know how to tackle that stealthily without either activating invisibility or triggering that stealth panic mode
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>>376999958
>No Avellone

Doomed from the start.
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>>377008559
Wasn't Avellone heavily involved in the rewriting still? I heard he was responsible for making the thing wackier and that Mitsoda's take was supposed to be grittier. Also Mitsoda claimed he invented the dialogue wheel for the game before ME did it.
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>>377014984
Wait, the "RPG fanbase" decides which game is the best but only for isometric cRPGs?
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>>377006941
Story is a combination of PLOT, LORE and CHARACTERS, anon.
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>>377015206
Yes, otherwise I would have stated "action RPG fanbase", you shit-eating mongoloid cuck. In any case, it's definitely not your retarded ass who decides anything.
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Alpha Protocol was so fucking bad.
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>>377015305
Who is this RPG fanbase crowd that is vague enough to let you just go with the retarded opinion of casual gamers for games you like, yet specific enough to let you exclude games like Skyrim that you do not like?
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>>377015439
Alpha Protocol was so fucking good.
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>>377015481
>Who is this RPG fanbase crowd
The people who buy and play RPGs. Obviously, you have no relation to it, so you are irrelevant, just like your shit opinion.

>exclude games like Skyrim
Wait, are you actually unironically arguing that a party based RTwP RPG belongs to the same genre as Skyrim? Let me laugh even harder.
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>>377015676
Oh I see, you simply claim RPGs that you don't like aren't real RPGs. What a neat little loophole to discount the majority opinion whenever you don't agree with it
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>>377015927
>RPGs that you don't like aren't real RPGs
No, I'm claiming that you are a shit-eating mongoloid dumbfuck who thinks a third/first person action RPG belongs to the same genre as TB/RT/RTwP party based RPGs.
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>>377015481
You know where they come from anon.
DU forgot to lock the gate again and they slipped out of their containment board.
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>>377016176
>who thinks a.....RPG belongs to the same genre as....RPGs
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>>377016176
>third/first person action RPG
>TB/RT/RTwP party based RPGs
Wow both of these are RPGs, a video game genre
Could they possibly be of the same genre, which is RPG? We may never know
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>>377013993
It's kinda funny because Mikey is good at learning languages.
>no ap2 sequel with Sis and Mikey
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>>377016195
What's DU? I'm not up to date on the latest epic site rivalries between teenagers or whatever this si
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>>376999958
Not confirmed. But still hype af if it happens. Alpha protocol was one of the most interesting RPGs I've played and was so damned close to being truly great. A few flaws (like not being able to plow Sis' virgin womb in front of Pelican)
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>>377016242
>>377016279
>RPG belongs to the same genre as action RPG
>dumbfucks do not comprehend the difference between a RPG and an action RPG
>dumbfucks do not comprehend the difference between character skill focused and player skill focused combat efficiency
>dumbfucks do not comprehend between a single FP/TP and party based control
>pretend they know anything about the genre
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>>377016543
>do not comprehend between a single FP/TP and party based control
*do not comprehend the difference between a FP/TP and party based control
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>>377016543
None of what you are raging about here stops Skyrim from being the best RPG of all time because it had such insane sales numbers
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>>377000994
East Europe
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>>377016672
None of what you are raging about here stops PoE from being the best isometric party based RPG ever made. Skyrim can have the title of "the best RPG ever made" as long as it is hailed as such by dumbfucks like you.
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>>377016672
>stops Skyrim from being the best RPG of all time because it had such insane sales numbers
The guy you are replying to is an autismo, but come now.
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Looks like I'm gonna download and play this game again.
5 decides my character and romance
If 5 bushy beard martial artist + explosives
Mina
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>>377016930
Just to remind you, you're the fucking faggot who threw around the term "RPG fanbase" and then started autisming it up when I said clearly Skyrim is the best RPG ever made then. You are the idiot who compared PoE to all RPGs by saying "RPG fanbase" so clearly you know it is one genre that has sub-genres that you can still compare. Stop being a fucking idiot and changing your own words halfway through your screeching
>>377016932
I fucking hate Skyrim
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>>377017085
Well, it looks like you/re bushy and Mina with explosive results.
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>>377017085
>not fucking every girl for the lover bonus perk
>not killing/letting die every girl after boning them to be able to call your dick deaths kiss
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>>377017254
Can't SIE only die if you don't rescue her from Brayko's mansion? And that's before you fug
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>>377017361
Yeah, forgot about that. You do have to let every girl die if you want to act like a professional spy
>let madison die so you can chase marberg
>let SIE die so you can move on quickly
>let mina die to give chase to your target
>let scarlet die to give chase
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>>377017142
>threw around the term "RPG fanbase"
Precisely, the term "RPG fanbase" means exactly what it means: people who play actual RPGs, not action RPGs or whatever other dogshit you consider to be a "RPG".

>compared PoE to all RPGs by saying "RPG fanbase"
Exactly, because only games where character combat efficiency is mostly reliant on character skill are RPGs, any other game is either not a RPG or an action RPG.

>one genre that has sub-genres
I don't think you understand what "sub-genre" means, shitstain. A TB RPG is a subgenre of of RPG. A RTwP RPG is subgenre of RPG. A single character RPG like Underrail is a subgenre of RPG. A party based RPG like PoE is a sub-genre of RPG. An action RPG belongs to an entirely different genre due to how the combat related roleplaying aspect is severely curbed in an action RPG, compared to an actual RPG, because your character build decisions that determine your character's combat efficiency mean less in an action RPG, where the player can compensate the lack of character skill with his own personal player skill to a much greater degree, compared to a RPG.

Again, you're a retarded mongoloid fuck, who pretends he knows something about the genre, but you don't and your trash opinion is irrelevant.
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Never finished 1. Gameplay was just not fun but I was also playing on an old computer that was annoying.

Worth replaying and finishing?
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>>377017691
>people who play actual RPGs, not action RPGs
Once again you're excluding a game just because you don't like it. Protip: If you're gonna rage about something not being "an actual RPG", don't include "RPG" in the name of the genre you describe it as
Next time, call it hack & slash, it will make you seem less deranged
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>>377017598
did anyone here really save madison instead of killing Marburg?
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>>377017945
Why's there always the one retard who only played through the game once?
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>>377017598
>let SIE die so you can move on quickly
FUCK YOU
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>>377017945
I did my first time. If you can't save one person, why bother saving the world?
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>>377017945
Yeah in my second playthrough. The second time i managed to charm her and felt like picking her instead of the bombs. It is funny, if you disable the bomb threat the ending news will tell you they are going to ramp up the security. While if you save madison she ends up becoming a politician and wont allow security corporations from making bank of some bombing. So in the end she actually provides the world more than a bunch of random tourists.
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>>377017809
Yeah it's worth it just for the variety of character interactions that are available. Go full pistol build if you want to breeze through the game as the stop time headshot move is overpowered.
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>>377017845
Once again comparing games outside of their genres just because you have no clue about RPGs. Protip: if you're going to pretend you know something about the genre and try to shoehorn a game from a different genre into the RPG genre, at least try to give examples of roleplaying that would support your retarded dogshit opinion.
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>>377018218
Fuck it, I probably won't finish it but I feel like playing something new.
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>>377017809
>320 post thread
>is this game worth it
Yes it is but you must understand its flawed. Dont play it, come to 4chan and complain how people here enjoy eating shit and how the combat was terrible. It has many double layers, has huge differences based on how you play and what dialogue you pick and has some great characters. The combat is shit, the graphics are dated, you might not like some options. But if you get through that hell of saudi arabia you find that the game provides a lot of cool stuff. Are you willing to put time into a game you wil hate some parts of because you can appreciate the unique dialogue?
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>>377018301
>a game from a different genre into the RPG genre
By the conventions of normal, sane language, an action RPG is an RPG
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/determinans
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>>377001865
The magic system was good. The lack of new gme+ and/or strong enemies to play against when you really got the ball rolling wasn't.
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>>377018161
>If you can't save one person, why bother saving the world?
If you can't make the hard choice and save more people over just one why would one think you're qualified to save the world.
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>>377018426
You don't get to define what "normal, sane language" means, you retarded fuck.
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Time to replay game
>>377010092
>>377010326
see pic
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>>377018820
If only I had also included a link showing you why normal, sane language defines action RPG as being an RPG
Are you the "video games don't have to be games" guy?
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>>377018891
You've shown me a wikipedia link and thus, you have shown me literally nothing but how retarded you are.
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>>376999958
>Modern Obsidian
So shitty isometric turn based game?
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>>377018991
>You've shown me a wikipedia link
I didn't actually
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>>377019024
>turn based
You can't even make a proper insult, you fucking mongoloid.
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>>377019024
I'd prefer shitty isometric to shitty TPS

Obsidian's games aren't really turn-based
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>>377019157
>I didn't actually
I know, you didn't show me anything and that's why I'm laughing at your retarded ass. Again: your shit opinion is trash and completely irrelevant. PoE is amazing, sorry.
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>>376999958
Okay but the real question is are they going to let you transfer your save data to the new game. There were so many minor choices in that game that affected things it was crazy.
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>>377016471
If you are unaware of DU it is best to not delve too deeply into the abyss.
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>>377019273
>you didn't show me anything
I did, actually
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>>377019435
>I did, actually
Yeah, you've shown how retarded you are. I mean you haven't shown me anything I didn't know already.
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>>377016672
There is no metric they accept other than belly feels.
It is like arguing with a woman.
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>>376999958
Nice I really liked the first one.
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>>377019512
So you know what a determinans is? Good, then you're aware when you call something an action RPG it means that it's an RPG
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>>377019537
>There is no metric they accept other than belly feels.
Oh, there is an objective metric anyone who knows anything about RPGs uses to judge whether a game is actually a good RPG or not. I'll even show it to you, if you ask me to do so specifically.
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>>376999958
I will never understand how this game is universally liked on /v/. Its has the shittiest, must fucked up mess of a gameplay. Its like everything that could go wrong for gameplay has gone wrong. Its a game where I would welcome the "skip gameplay" button hamburger helper dreamt of.
The character interaction is great though. So if they actually make at least semi playable gameplay, it would still be top tier game in these bad times we live in.
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>>377019342
In other words, you don't know and you're making bullshit up.
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Hard or Normal?
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>>377019671
Could give no fucks about your definition of RPG.
Unless you are the RPG police.
Are you the RPG Police?
If you are I lied and still give no fucks.
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>>377019671
Will you fuck off and kill yourself, if I ask you to do so specifically?
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>>377019603
By your "logic", a "gun" is the same as "machinegun" or "AA gun". Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
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>>377019962
You and everyone else reading this knows damn well that I never claimed they were equivalent, I spoke purely of a subset relationship
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>>377013447
If true this would be cool as fuck, means I've been severely outplayed. But then why would Heck be totally down to help you take out Alpha Protocol and the Halbech boss if that's basically his boss? Besides Heck just being batshit, anyway.
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Part of me is happy that Obsidian might have a decent project for a title that had a lot of potential to be good.

On the other hand, Alpha Protocol was left is a shitty state and I hate that no attempt was ever made to fix it on any platform. Now, if they do a re-release that fixes and tweaks shit, that would be one thing.

On top of Obsidian's prior history of all their games shipping with far more bugs then the average game, I would be cautious about buying Alpha Protocol 2 anywhere near release.
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>AP thread

welp, time to go for my 4th playthrough then
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>>377019846
It lives in Australia.
If you venture too deep you will find a far more horrifying Australian creature.It commands Flying Golden Babies I am told.

If you must sate your curiosity do so at your own risk.You have been warned.
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>>377019946
Nah, I'd rather shit down your throat and you don't even need to ask me to do so.

>>377019932
>Could give no fucks about your definition of RPG.
LMAO, the difference between me and mongoloids like you post here is that I NEVER post opinions, I only post facts. Now, ask me to show you this objective metric and I will, along with the proof that it IS, in fact, an objective metric, or shut your retarded mouth, you inbred underage bitch.
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>>377019341
Not likely, the first game was a mess (although a fun mess) so they probably wouldn't want you to play it since it would be bad publicity.
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>>377019962
Not him, but both of those things are guns. Using controlled explosions in a tube to project a projectile in one direction.
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>>377020071
>You and everyone else reading this knows damn well that I never claimed they were equivalent
LMAO, stop backpedalling, you fucking shit-eating cuck. You claimed they belonged to the same genre, so, according to your "logic", an AA gun and a gun belong to the same type of weaponry as well. Go do your math homework, you underage retard.
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Is there a mod for AP that lists out the exact things each dialogue choice have you say?
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>>376999958

I tried playing this game a few years ago and it just felt awkward, I got to the point where you have to blow up a tank and when I realized normal firearms damaged it I just kinda checked out.
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>>377020405
You called Skyrim an AA gun and PoE a machinegun, but also claimed that Skyrim is not a true gun
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>>377020395
OK, I'll humor you, even though you're wrong in assuming they belong to the same class of weaponry in any way. How about this: a gun and an electron gun. Let's see if you've finished primary school yet.

>>377020528
Wow, now you're definitely showing me something new: now I can see you're able to pull strawmen, congratulations, but no, I equated an AA gun or a machinegun to an action RPG and a RPG to a gun.
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>>377019838
>I will never understand how this game is universally liked on /v/.
its only liked by a small group of people willing to push themselves through the gameplay to get the sweet interaction
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>>377020239
If you really wish to indulge your autism by all means.
Be aware I will still give no fucks despite the time and effort you have put into said opinion.

And a WAG
Shouldn't you be working on micro issues or some shit?
It has been 50 years release it faggot.
Thal my ass.
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>>377020168
>Besides Heck just being batshit, anyway.

>falling for his pretending to be retarded shtick
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Ive heard alpha protocol is the burn notice of video games. Anyone confirm?
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>>377020653
It projects something from a tube-shaped object. However since its not projecting a bullet or something intended to kill people, its given a sub-name: Electron. Christ: They were called tubes for a reason.
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>>377019838
Some anons grew up in a time of flawed gems where you had to eat through a lot of shit to find the sweet sweet corn.

They have done that so often they have acquired a taste for shit.Obsidian offers up what they crave.
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>>377020653
>I equated an AA gun or a machinegun to an action RPG and a RPG to a gun.
Okay so we know that every AA gun is a gun and that every machine gun is a gun
You also substitute action RPG with either an AA gun or machinegun, as well as substituting gun with RPG
Therefore, every action RPG is an RPG. Thanks for the proof
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>>377021032
Alpha Protocols gameplay isn't even that bad. It's just mediocre. None of the guns feel good, the stealth is piss easy for the most part and the AI isn't that good, but I wouldn't say it's straight up bad. Gameplay is like a 6/10 I'd say.
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Holy shit, the motion blur on this is terrible.

>mute music and sound fx to only hear dialogue
>cutscenes don't play sound
Great design
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>>377020779
Copy pasting takes no effort.

>I do not, and I stress NOT, believe that the RPG is "storytelling" in the way that is usually presented. If there is a story to be told, it comes from the interaction of all participants, not merely the Game Master--who should not be a "Storyteller" but a narrator and co-player! The players are not acting out roles designed for them by the GM, they are acting in character to create the story, and that tale is told as the game unfolds, and as directed by their actions, with random factors that even the GM can't predict possibly altering the course of things.

I'll let you figure out who said this yourself.

>The players are not acting out roles designed for them by the GM, they are acting in character to create the story
>acting in character
>to create the story

Acting in character - playing in a way that corresponds to your previous character building and advancement choices.

The passage "to create a story" means that a RPG is interactive by very definition, so that players should be able to progress and solve quests and encounters in different ways.

Combine these two things and you get the definition of a RPG: a game where you can progress in different ways while staying in character or a game where you can progress in different ways based on your previous character building choices choices.

As to what objective metric makes a RPG great, the answer is very easy: the number of situations where your character building choices actually matter and provide you with alternative ways of progress and it is exactly THIS that makes PoE an amazing RPG.

>>377020974
>It projects something from a tube-shaped object.
So a cock and a gun are one and the same? SHIIIIIIEEEET. It's OK, weebcuck, you don't have to show me how retarded you are any more.
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>>377021272
I don't think you understand what the word "gun" ma actually refer to. This is really sad, if you're a muricuck, so you should feel doubly retarded. Again you've shown that you have no clue what you're talking about, retard, but it's OK, I didn't expect anything else.
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>>377021805
Was it Gygax?
Do I win something?
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>>377022329
Yes. You win the honor of not being called a dumbfuck.
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>>377019879
normal first run as a recruit
hard second run as a veteran
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>>377022170
Instead of continuing with this "HAHA YOU KNOW NOTHING" shtick, how about telling me which one of these is not a gun;
1) AA gun
2) machinegun
Vote now
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This is the one game I finished with one gun. Pistol + headshot everyone in the way.
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>>377022375
If you knew my taste in games you would reconsider.
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Never played this game. Going to buy it since it's super cheap. What are the things i need to know before i start ?
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Yes, I can play as a true alpha again
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>>377022731
Invest into sneak and pistols
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>>377022731
Shotguns are trash, melee is fun as fuck, the pistol is broken once you get the time stop ability.

Character interactions can be pretty in depth. Sometimes you'll think it's a one-off character but then they come back and remember how you treated them which can impact the whole story. The order you do things can also change the game pretty majorly. Also if I remember correctly all of the bosses can be subdued non-lethally if that's your thing.
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>>377022731
Pistols are useful.
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>>377022481
I am dedicated enough to argue about the intricacies of the RPG genre, but I'm not autistic enough to "argue" with mongoloid dumbfucks spouting nonsense, so let's do a quick recap and wrap this up, because this is a AP thread, not the thread where you get humiliated for a 100 posts straight.

1. The only things I've posted are facts.
2. The only thing you've posted is your shit, irrelevant opinion.
3. You have stated that PoE is shit based on your retarded opinion.
4. You were proven wrong via two objective metrics: the number of concurrent players and number of sales PoE has along with the general Steam ratings AND the number of statchecks PoE possesses that I'm going to post below.
Thus, you are wrong and I am right simply based on the fact that you have not presented a single argument. You can have the last word, as nothing but diarrhea falls from your mouth anyway.
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>>377023450
>Here are the numbers for all dialogue/text adventure checks made in the game

Barbarian: 2 Chanter: 1 Cipher: 12 Druid: 1 Fighter: 4 Monk: 2 Paladin: 1 + Order Priest: 6 (3 unique - without equivalent "Clergyman" background check) + Deity
Ranger: 2 Rogue: 2 Wizard: 3

Kind Wayfarers: 7 Bleak Walkers: 6 Shieldbearers: 3 Goldpact: 2 Darcozzi: 3

Berath: 3 Skaen: 7 Magran: 5 Wael: 5 Eothas: 7

Aristocrat: 8 Artist: 4 Clergyman: 7 (4 unique) Colonist: 9 Dissident: 6 Drifter: 4 Explorer: 9 Hunter: 10 Laborer: 8 Mercenary: 8 Merchant: 11 Mystic: 5 Philosopher: 11 Raider: 11 Scholar: 13 Scientist: 6 Slave: 7

Aedyr: 12 (5 of them with Aloth) Deadfire: 9 Ixamitl Plains: 1 Old Vailia: 4 Rauatai: 9 (8 with Kana) The Living Lands: 9 White That Wends: 14

Aumaua: 7 Coastal Aumaua: 1 Dwarf: 0 Boreal Dwarf: 1 Elf: 1 Snow Elf: 7 (3 with Glaswal) Godlike: 10 Fire Godlike: 4 Nature Godlike: 2 Moon Godlike: 2 Death Godlike: 3 Human: 1 Orlan: 14 (5 with Captain Aldmar) Hearth Orlan: 1 Wild Orlan: 1

Male: 7 Female: 12

Might: 38 (42) Constitution: 12 (12) Dexterity: 19 (21) Perception: 42 (47) Intellect: 40 (55) Resolve: 55 (81)

Stealth: 4 (5) Athletics: 22 (30+) (only checked once outside of text adventures, by the Glanfathan Leader) Lore: 18 (25) Mechanics: 4 (7) Survival: 14 (16)

Aggressive 39 Benevolent 40 Clever 27 Cruel 52 Deceptive 30 Diplomatic 25 Honest 26 Passionate 33 Rational 30 Stoic 28

Also, if Obisdian were to make AP2, I hope they at least do it AFTER they release PoE2 and its expacs, as making two quality projects is not something they can do, as proven by Tyranny.
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>>377023450
>You can have the last word
Good on you for giving up since you're clearly tired of calling me a moron with no arguments every time you realize you are wrong
You just spent those 100 posts autistically "arguing" already, just so you know. Every single question and point you deflect with "haha you're a fucking idiot who knows nothing about anything". I especially like the part where you still haven't found any argument to counter the fact that an action RPG is an RPG by definition
Skyrim is the best RPG ever made according to your metric, therefore your metric is shit
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>>377020168
Heck decides that he likes you more and that you'd make a better business partner.
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>>377021805
>So a cock and a gun are one and the same? SHIIIIIIEEEET. It's OK, weebcuck, you don't have to show me how retarded you are any more.

>This is my rifle, this is my gun. This is for shooting, this is for fun.

I'll keep posting anime stuff now because it upsets you.
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>>377023450
>>377023508
BTFO
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>50+ posts about two retards arguing about RPGS
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How's the ps3 version of the gme?
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>>377011331
Writer for planescape and new vegas qnd its dlc's is what he's mainly known for. Was also the writer for two pillars of eternity party members.

I do know a lot of people don't like him for a character he made in new vegas, Ulysses.

I personally like some of his work (one of the PoE party members.) And dislike some of it (Ulysses). I've never played planescape so I can't say anything on that.
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Never played this game? Heard the story and characters are good but gameplay is atrocious and it's buggy as fuck.

Is it still worth picking up?
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>>377026763
Try it man but warning its a niche game.
Some people here love it, some are ok with it and some hate it.
Just play it and decide for yourself man. Personally I love the shit out of it and generally beat it once a year and get a new ending each time.
Last time I played I joined the terrorists and fucked up America.
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>>377025464
More stable than the PC version but the pc version looks way better.
Basically it comes down to graphics or stability.
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>>377027482
Thanks fampai, I'll be sure to pick it up.
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Shitsidian shouldn't be allowed near games, ever.
It'll be another buggy mess that the publishers have to force them to fix for motnhs after the game is released because as has constantly been shown, they can't actually tell the truth about development time.,
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