Sonic Adventure 3

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Precise platforming controls, can do many fun jumps that save time & make the stages less linear

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Can move freely wherever you want with no input modifications, this is very suitable for 3D space platforming

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Sonic is LITERALLY CRIPPLED in boostgames
HE MOVES LIKE A FUCKING FRIDGE!!! HOW DO YOU WANT TO HAVE 3D PLATFORMING LIKE THIS? OF COURSE THEY'LL SEND YOU TO FUCK OFF TO A 2D SECTION!

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HOW DO YOU WANT TO MAKE PRECISE JUMPS WITH THESE SHIT CONTROLS? IS SONIC A FUCKING CAR??? TEMPLE RUN CONTROLS BETTER THAN THIS SHIT !!!

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>>376937237
stop making these threads adventurefag

>>376936862
>>376937004
>>376937105
>>376937237
>>376937332
At least you corrected your graph to indicate relative motion. Still very autistic thread nonetheless.

>>376936862
>>376937004
>>376937105
>>376937237
>>376937332
>nu /v/ is defending adventure games and 06 now

>>376936862
>>376937004
>>376937105
>>376937237
>>376937332
How is gradual movement casual? It's how you would move in in real life. You can't make sharp turns like that even if you are not a car.

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>Graph doesn't also include all the horseshit friends in Adventure
Yeah I sure love playing as Sonic only a 3rd of the time.

>>376937849
realism doesn't mean better for a video game though.

>>376936862
nice upgrade

I don't disagree with the premise but sonic has been shit since 3&k, adventure/2 being the only exceptions and they have flaws.

who is this for, dreamcast owners?

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>>376937954
I should've indicated in the OP that I'm discussing SONIC's gameplay alone. I'm not talking about the friends mate. Sonic forces is yet another boostshit game, so I want to bring the issues with boost movement to light.

>>376937489
kill yourself mate

>>376937629
:^)

>>376937718
hey i'm grump

>>376937849
what >>376938009
said

>>376938030
it's a call for attention to the biggest issue with boost gameplay which was not present in Adventure senpai

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>>376937237
>>376937332
hello again adventurefag, i love your threads

>>376937718
boostlet detected

>>376937954
knuckles and rouge were unironically fun.

>>376936862
you must be either CWC or barneyfag.

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>>376938871
fuck off with your e-celeb shit

>>376937489
>>376937629
>>376937718
>>376937849
All this shit has all been debunked before in previous threads. As for the autism jokes though, it shows how shallow boostfags are in terms of creativity.

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>>376939260
this

>>376938673
hello :^3

>>376936862
>redddit spacing

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>>376939468
I wrote the thread on notepad and pasted it here, idk why it did those random spaces. If you notice, some sentences are cut off halfway through.

>>376936862
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>>376937332
that's some dedication right threre
it's kind of autistic desu

>>376937954
>that one guy who complains so much about the fishing section you believed him
its not that bad.

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>>376936862
I wonder what would happen if OP and Unleashedfag got into a fight
Also fuck you, Sonic romhacks are top-tier

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>Previous threads:

I knew Sonicfags were autists but god damn.

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>>376936862
just gonna leave this right here

>>376939813
>>376939941
>>376939974
very compelling arguments, rly made me think

is boostfag a new regular

>>376940276
He's been posting the same images and screaming at people in every single sonic thread.

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>sonic must move like a car!

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>>376940960
but low speed movement is literally adventure.

this game proves that the dynamic physics change as speed increases is SHIT because it doesn't allow 3D platforming at max speed.

>>376940960
>>376941256
This game is loved by boostfags for some reason, literally temple run reskin

I don't see how OP's image is supposed to be an argument against Boost games, since it shows that Boost games are more closer to how physics actually work than early 3D Sonic

>Since SEGA will not make Adventure 3
They did 11 years ago.

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>>376942313
if you only looked at the image and didn't read the text, of course you will not see how.

This time I worded my OP with no holes uncovered in my narrative so all you got left are shit flingers and people like
>>376942498
>>376937718
who watch the game grumps to get their vidya opinions.

>>376936862
Serious question OP.

Why do you insist that everyone who disagrees with you is part of a shitty e-celeb hivemind?

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>>376942779
because I went through a lot of hours of watching e-celebs talk about sonic games and reviews. their arguments are the same ones you see on /v/
>MUH BUGS IN 06!!
>I LITERALLY ENJOY 06 JUST BC HOW BROKEN IT IS XD XD !
>06 IS LITCHRALLY ADVENTURE 3 XD XD!
>Muh camera in Adventure!! so broken! litchrally unplayable!!
(even though you never have to move the camera in normal gameplay)
>Muh sensitive controls!
>Muh MECHS/TREASURE HUNTER stages!

>>376936862
The shit they put in the food and water makes adventurefags the way they are.

>>376936862
autistic barneyfag cosplayer

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ITS NO USE

>>376937004
this looks like fun_

>>376937332
Calm down mate

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>>376943514
im not so grump!

>>376943613
le write extra character to make the spoiler seem like it says shit but when u go and check it says fun! gud meme!

>>376943709
how can I be calm if Forces will be yet another boostshit """"""""""""""""""game"""""""""""""""""?

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>>376937004
>Stopping and being capable of revving up a spin dash on a horizontal plane

Ironic autism is still autism, my dude.

>>376939750
you have shit taste. Abort yourself

>>376943969
>Ironic
You really missed the few other threads of him basically screaming like an idiot.

You're also giving him attention instead of saging and/or moving on. He's not really listening to anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRMmGGdsvbw

>>376943951
I guess Adventure2 is the melee of sonic gameplay. I love all the cool physics tricks you can do here, no boostshit game has ever given the player this level of freedom and precise control.

>>376943969
>>376944170
good argument
it's funny how when my OP has no holes all you got left is shit flinging.

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Just as I think I've seen the epitome of sonic-based autism, I am once again proven wrong

>>376944170
I dont fucking care wat you say faggot
I'll post in every sonic thread so long as im awake. My message will spread. Boostfags such as yourself have no more arguments left.

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>>376936862
>That sentence spacing.

>>376944593
>>376939582
sorry about that.
I wrote the thread on notepad and pasted it here, idk why it did those random spaces. If you notice, some sentences are cut off halfway through.

>>376936862
In Temple run you turn like in the left however

>>376944593
>will completely ignore the presented arguments because of a minor formatting error

That anime girl picture sure debunks everything posted ITT

Sonic Forces was already leaked to have the create-a-character have adventure style stages while classic sonic gets 2D ones and modern sonic gets boost ones.

you adventure fags will have your game now stop

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You know what, OP? I think I'm just gonna dig out my Wii and play Sonic Colors. I am wasting my life in this thread, and on 4chan in general.


See you later.

>Sonicfags still deny that 06 was SA3
This is just sad.

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>>376944806
BTFO

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>>376944671
You wrote a rant for /v/ on notepad. I actually thought this was a joke thread now I see your actually serious.

>>376944272
>My OP
>>376944481
That's some big accusations coming from a man that's forcing people into labels when the most that they're trying to do is manage you to see that while Adventure was great, it had flaws plenty and simply copy-pasting it won't take away from the real game's problems - problems that even Adventure has in spades (Lock on homing attacks over bottomless pit is a terrible example as the stage you're playing that on has that exact sort of "automated" thing with Rings and enemies; rails also have better gameplay than Adventure ever had if anything due to how clunky the entire "balancing" thing in Adventure turned out to be.)

Even funnier, you've gone on to be quoted:
>"gotta keep the thread fed man. Replying with insults = guaranteed reply. I need these threads to get as much exposure as possible to achieve my propaganda goals."
If you're not going to give intelligent replies, then you're not going to get intelligent replies back. Then again, I wouldn't say you're the most intelligent sort, given what >>376939974 and every other archive thread show.

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>>376944851
>Presented arguments about Sonic Adventure games.

What is this thread.

>>376944896
source?

>>376944974
Now that you read my threads you will not be able to have fun in a boostgame whether you agree with me or not. deep down you know I'm right

>>376945046
hey im grump

>>376945081
I didn't want to run the risk of losing my text.

The adventure games are actually pretty fucking shit desu.
Boost sonic just plays way better and flows better too.

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>>376936862
There are better ways to have a Sonic Physics discussion. This is NOT it.

Just let it die. Turbo baiting your post everyday is going to do more harm than good.

>>376936862
go cry to sonic team about it then dumbass. they are two different kinds of games, and i like both.

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>>376945443
reddit/game grumps

>>376945234
while adventure has some of those sprinkled here and there, I'm arguing for the freedom of movement/control you have to do precise 3D platforming stunts as shown here >>376937004
which you could never even dream of achieving in a boost game.

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>>376945314
>I didn't want to run the risk of losing my text.
God forbid.

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>>376945314
>run the risk of losing my text
>In depth analysis of 3D Sonic games
>Links to their previous threads
>Gets easily triggered
>Most likely has Sonic OC art on his Fur Affinity page

>>376945502
can you please elaborate? in what way should we discuss sonic physics? I need as much help as I can get from adventure fans. I'm willing to put in as much work as necessary to make the right kind of propaganda. I have a lot to learn.

>>376945634
>muh nostalgia means you are reddit.
I bet you're fucking ass if you go to reddit. you will see them love the shit out of the adventure games with the same reasoning as you do;
>muh nostalgia
So maybe you are reddit. after all.

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>>376945848
>Sonic Adventure Fans.

>>376945079
that's 2 seconds of the level

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>>376937004
>>376937105
>>376937237
>>376937332

You fags don't know what you want.

Sonic is about going fast, first and foremost. What you're doing here is allowing Sonic to slow down and hit something, instead of doing what he's been doing since the Genesis games: GOING FAST.

What you want him to do goes against that, and platforming? That has always been more of Mario's kind of stuff, the kind of boring slow platforming.

It's like you've never known what you want.

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>>376945804
ok i laughed at this one

>>376945814
but im not a furry. i have a T H I C C white nationalist boyfriend

>>376945896
wrong, I tried to go to reddit and post this image. The threads got downvoted to sub 24% & all the posts were pro boost and anti adventure, citing e-celeb arguments such as muh camera and muh bugs.

I thought we were past the Green Eyes phase.

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>>376946168
Are you writing all your replies on notepad also?

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>>376944272
>I guess Adventure2 is the melee of sonic gameplay

You mean tired and nobody cares anymore? What YOU are is the epitome of Tourneyfag bullshit, except you don't even have a multiplayer element to hold on to. You're just an autist complaining about some single player game.

>>376946168
Actually Sonic on the genesis was never about going fast, it was just marketed as such and everyone remembers it like that because of the first level.
Adventure = What Sonic actually was (not that good)
Boost games = What Sonic was supposed to be and what everyone thought it was (good games)
>>376946251
Huh, I guess even reddit is actually growing some sort of taste because they are indeed right the games aged like fucking shit filled milk stored in the corpse of an elephant.

>>376946251
>but im not a furry. i have a T H I C C white nationalist boyfriend

Odd way to say you married a fat redneck Anon.

>>376945634
Then you're asking for stylized performances that come from the freedom of movement usability and bugged usage on a level layout that's linear open-nature obviously shows that - while it wasn't intentional - creative usage of character's abilities can purvey new methods of attribution of the goal in mind.

This has been stated before in many other threads: that's a platforming thing entirely. Sonic's entire agenda has been the way its been tackling platforming while going fast, which was a problem that it has had since the first Sonic game entirely that you haven't even considered nor factored in. Just because you see examples of experienced players not having trouble with it doesn't mean that its a flawless system: there's plenty of automation where the game goes fast, and this ENTIRE ARGUMENT against you is to showcase that in order to reach this level of retrospect, you need to look deeper into the movement mechanics and not pit one thing against the other. The second we reach that level of core mechanical balance is where the skill ceiling can be raised: more tricks can be done for more stylish things as well as to incorporate player skill-level into the factor, something that Sonic has been bested at since twenty years ago when Mario 64 released. I'd even go as far as to say that the original Mario Brothers had better factoring in speed rather than Sonic any given day.

Sonic needs to be fast, but there needs to be control. If I wanted to play a remarkable platformer that let me do whatever I want, I'd just go back to Super Mario Sunshine and get more bang for my buck that Sonic has never been able to follow up on.

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>>376940960
>>376941256
And what's wrong with this, anyhow? All I see is a game working as intended by the game mechanics.

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>>376944272
>I guess Adventure2 is the melee of sonic gameplay

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>>376946648
Maybe you should get over your Mario fetish. Sonic is doing fine as it is, and you're the kind of fast that pitched stupid shit like Sonic Boom instead of actual good games.

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>adventurefags

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>Sonic Adventure 2.
>The game that introduced the cancer that is Shadow and Rouge.
>The game that's so bad that a shitty Chao raising mini-game is the only thing people remember about it.

Yeaaaaaaaaah....

No.

>>376946932
>>376947035
>>376946851

Pretty much this.

You know how it seemed like the best Sonic game ever? Well, contrast it's review scores between the Dreamcast version and the Gamecube version.

Sonic Adventure series is shit.

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>>376946297
no_

>>376946453
>>376946276
good argument

>>376946168
you are the reason boost games exist, kill yourself

>>376946578
he clean and got a big house & a range rover, very rich boy. nice thicc cock and boi puccy

>>376946648
The good thing about how adventure's speed tracks are built is that for the casual e-celebs they are linear with automated cinematic experiences. Skilled players can actually exploit the way they're built for the most objectively fun platforming in a sonic game even if it was not intended. SA1 was actually built for linear platforming though. What sonic game do you prefer then? I can't call you a boostfag.
>>376946853
this anon has a point

>>376946656
can't 3d platform with such conditions

>>376946932
nice argument

>>376947035
kill yourself mate

>>376936862
Is this what they meant by "Sonic fans are autists?"
All 3D sonic games suck dick. In fact all sonic games except 2 and 3 suck dick.

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>>376947432

>>376947416
How about you just don't have the linear speed tracks and automation to begin with?

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>>376947432
classic fags need not apply, you have mania, gtfo pls

>>376947487
i remember this reaction image

>>376947610
i honestly would prefer if they were removed. but they are a necessary evil to please e-celebs/reddit who want to go fast. just look at this guy's reply >>376946168
this kind of guy straight up watched an e-celeb's video and quoted it word for word. they must be pleased with cinematic experiences to make them feel like they can go fast with no effort required.

>>376936862
This is intensely autistic.

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>>376947416
>posts pictures of Shadow un-ironically in their reply.
>he clean and got a big house & a range rover, very rich boy. nice thicc cock and boi puccy

This has to be a piss take. This Anon cant be for real.

STOP PRAISING THE ADVENTURE GAMES 80% OF THE GAME WAS A CHORE AND NO FUN!!!

>implying he doesn't have a point

The way in which he presents his case may be controversial, but you're not going to attract attention on here otherwise.

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>>376947896
:) good argument

>>376947965
hahaha, i try to be funny. my bf is real though

>>376948003
i am talking about sonic's gameplay alone.

>>376948168
:) good blog

>>376936862
Oh look, it's this post again.

Sonic Adventure 3 exists, Sonic World Adventure (Sonic Unleashed). Hell, Sonic 06 was also Adventure-styled.

>>376948168
the gameplay for sonic was decent I feel like he turned to quick or it could be my shitty xbone controller

>>376948110
Exactly. If OP made a thread in peace with a less provocative image, it would drown in the catalog. His approach is just what he has to do to get his message heard.

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>>376948110
>>376948349
thanks anons

>>376946853
>[...] get over your Mario fetish.
There's something called examples, and given how Mario's platforming in practice is hilariously complex while being easily understandable - akin to something of Quake's level of platforming where it's easy to learn yet hard to master - it's a great example to showcase just exactly what the man wants as well as pinpoint why exactly it's an admirable direction that needs to be leveled down to something more basic before utilization. I understand my reply was hastily typed, but calling me names is only proving the original point in my first post.

>>376947416
>this anon has a point.
I clearly just took it apart then. For someone wanting a serious conversation, you're eager to name-call, but unlike you, I'm a kind enough person to give that a hand-wave and continue on with legitimate discussion - the king that you seem to want so much of.
>[...] how adventure's [levels] are built is that for the casual e-celebs they are linear with automated cinematic experiences.
Yes, I detailed that without the unnecessary namecalling of a "casual" audience, thank you for picking up on that.
>Skilled players can actually exploit [....]
And now I'm certain you missed my point entirely.

I'm telling you that speed and platforming have been at odds throughout the entire series. This has been something that the games have never perfected. Boost games embraced the automation and forward level design for it was the only way to keep Sonic going fast. You're getting rid of an entire identity by saying that Sonic should be more complex and malleable, especially without considering how high the deadzone and sensitivity is in the games that you're utilizing.

I'm going to end this off the same way I ended it before: Sonic needs to be fast, but there needs to be control. That's the entire problem with the series. Making Sonic more skill platform based requires accuracy that isn't available with that sort of identity looming over you.

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>>376948238
:)

;3

>>376948939
ok. do you have any ideas for how there could be speed with control? In previous threads people kept saying "just give sonic variable sensitivity that scales with velocity"
this one clearly doesn't work because Colors is Temple Run tier, and it has exactly that. it controls somewhat like adventure at low speed, and then goes full on generations at max speed.
>>376940960
>>376941256

>>376936862
Autism apex

>>376944851
>That anime girl.
Underage Sonicu fan fags everybody.

>>376936862
what is the point of these threads? Everything that had to be said was done by the 2nd. We will never get adventure 3 because SEGA wants the casual boost audience, forces is your proof. Move on. Nobody will reverse engineer SA physics.

>>376937004
Looks pretty fun senpai

>>376936862
So can we just the Adventure games to the list of games that can never ever be discussed on /v/ without constant shitposting?

>>376939724
Nu /v/ sure loves this buzzword.

>>376949807
most adventure threads don't get this much shit flinging. it's just the ones that are started with OP's image that trigger the shit out of boostfags.

There has never been a truly great 3D Sonic game. Sonic Team just has no idea how to make one, they should have retried the Sonic Xtreme design.

>>376936862
>muh 3d

stealth forces thread?

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>>376950292
i hate this meme so much.

>>376950463
i think forces will control a bit better than I was expecting though. look at that turn

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>>376950692
comparable to this

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>>376950692
>i think forces will control a bit better than I was expecting though. look at that turn

>>376950791
i know it will be shit just because it is a boost game, but if the controls are adventure tight while not boosting and have actual 3d platforming, I'll give it a playthrough.

>>376950786
>>>/trash/

Platforming is not nessecary.

>>376949408
Then that's a problem of the level design not encompassing it, not the core movement, even though there's platforming segments here and there but they're entirely in 2D. That's creating accessibility for when Sonic goes slow to better translate the platforming - something that Sonic 2 did in comparison to Sonic 1, if you'd care for an example within the same series.

There's plenty of fast-paced games that allow for high-speed movement, and that variable sensitivity is a very admirable option. If that's not the case or something that can't be worked, then something akin to F-Zero GX would be more desirable: moving has about the same level of sensitivity, but there's trigger buttons available to slowly move Sonic to one direction or the other for usage of either sharp turns or drifting, which would add some level of racing game complexity. Even then, variable sensitivity is a better idea and would work better for the platforming skill-based things you so desire, especially considering that accuracy is needed in those cases for best judgment. Quake's also a great example of skill-based fast movement, but mostly because of the divide between bunny-hopping and strafe-jumping that directly correlates easily into platforming in general. Sonic running really fast doesn't as well.

In terms of wanting skill-based platforming then, variable sensitivity seems to be the way to go, especially considering that "car Sonic" seems to have gained - and you'll forgive me for he pun - a bit of traction. It's a bit of a bias coming from me given my love for it, but I'd like to see where exactly that goes to give players a way of interactivity that's still skill-based while also providing subtle tension - like climbing a colossus in SoTC - of its own. Might give birth to more admirable gameplay alternatives and force them to stop automating such and let the player's skill decide how fast they're able to go, which was what the 2D games tried to do.

>>376951235
oh it isn't? so youre ok with cinematic experiences with 2-3 button presses when you get prompted?

so this... is the power... of autism...

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>>376950692
Sonic simply moves way too fast with basically no momentum or acceleration for any real platforming to take place in the 3D games. They even added a homing attack because landing on enemies was too hard.

>>376951291
>It's a bit of a bias coming from me given my love for [racing games].

Bit of a mistake on my part; I prefer seeing it in action before making my love clear on it, thank you very much.

>>376951291
the problem with having sonic control like a car is that you will never be able to perform the things you can do in the adventure games. You can jump and significantly influence your direction while on air with your control stick. If you try to jump in a boost game and then move the control stick, your movement influence options are very limited. Watch this again >>376937004

>>376951337
Haha autism so funy

>>376936862
Keep calling people game grump fans, thats just as productive as autism posters

>>376951302
Yes

>>376937004
looks like shit 2bh

>>376936862
>>376937004
>>376937105
>>376937237
>>376937332
(you)

>>376951291
Just make sonic a 2x speed Mario and make decent platforming levels, is it really such an impossible feat?

The original sonic games werent even that fast he just had autorun (no run button) and a few basic spin mechanics.

Sonic running at 100kph in 3D has been retarded since Sonic R. The only people that think his speed is important are Sonic Comix reading manchildren.

The only games to get 3D sonic right were the PS1 Crash Bandicoots.

>>376937237
>what are turn circles

>>376936862
Oh boy.

>>376937004
this level of freedom is why adventure is so fun.

>>376937718
says the boostfag

>>376938981
But you technically are acting like an e-celeb with your attempt to become a personality with constant posting habits.

>>376951696
If we're including variable sensitivity and Sonic acting like a car, then platforming should be a necessary in slower segments or as "punishment" to a player that wasn't able to skillfully maneuver his way throughout the level. I even detailed it in my original post - within the final paragraph - that those two together would certainly give the games a more interesting alternative and allow for platforming on the side that's more along how Adventure could go.

If we're talking taking shortcuts through Sonic's arsenal, he most certainly can provided that the games allow for that. Simply put, we'll just have to see ourselves.
>>376952908
While I am a sucker for Crash Bandicoot, Sonic games do need some platforming, though not in that way. Speed is moreso correlated to skill rather than by characters usability itself, so allotting for the two is definitely needed.

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>>376938871
definitely barneyfag

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>>376948168
>dat spoiler
HOL UP.
Adventurefag is a grill? Is EVERY advanced autistic Sonicfag like this all girls? First Unleashedfag, now Adventurefag?

>muh propaganda master
Sage

>>376937332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I86SawJieJ0

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>>376953736
I'm a boy.

>>376953698
what is even the connection between me and barneyfag? I went through his whole ED page, comfy read

>>376953776
upvoted

>>376953921
You can legit hold boost+forward and memorize button presses to do that. literally a smartphone game. You see how constrained sonic is when he is in the air & boosting? can't move much. compare it to >>376937004

>>376953921

delet this

>character actually has some weight behind movement and doesn't snap in a direction like a lifeless robot
>this is somehow a bad thing

I don't even like boostan and I think you're a goddamn retard.

>>376954150
>You can legit hold hold forward and memorize button presses to run sa2

>>376936862
>wanting SA3

Christ you Adventure fags are annoying. There's a reason why Sega isn't touching that gameplay or tone again.

Because it fucking sucks. Go back to writing your shitty serious Sonic fanfiction. You're all the cancer that made Sonic suck from 2001 to 2010.

>>376954332
you can't. There is actually 3D space movement so things get a lot more complex.

>>376954150
>memorize button presses to do that
like every platformer ever that doesn't have rng stages?

>>376954404
stop acting like sa2 is a complex game.

>>376954550
>>376954457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO8is6Y3L4Y

physics manipulations get much more complex than they ever will in Generations because you have true control over your character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVKFRxgwSWE

>>376954815
what he does at 1:03 with the spindash-->bounce looks pretty comfy.

>>376954815
that doesn't change the fact that it can be memorized https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7YAtIfAF9w

why does sonic attract this much tism

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>>376955179
>3d boost cinematic experience section
>2d section
>2d section gets cut off and the camera pretends its gonna switch to 3d, but it doesn't
>back to 2d section
>finish off with a temple run 3d cinematic experience
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!

>>376955270
(you)

>>376955270
Bright colors, simplistic black and white stories, easy designs to poach from, gameplay is always simplistic, characters are incredibly simple.

But at least the music is good, usually. You kinda just try to ignore them, but the autistic Sonic fans make for a delightful freak show exhibition on the internet. Very easy to pick out how weird they are and then paint the whole fanbase with it.

Like how it's true not many people give a shit for Adventure anymore, since the key takeaway is "We just want more Chao Garden stuff."

>>376955526
yea, conveniently ignore how OP never mentioned chao garden once. OP is definitely not talking about Sonic's gameplay only.

Makes no sense to throw chao into the convo when it's a physics discussion, fuckface.

>>376955778
Because to the wider audience, that shit doesn't matter.

Why should Sega cater to such a minute fraction? You don't matter.

>>376955461
>what is speedrunning

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>>376955946
my efforts are to meme boost gameplay into being ridiculized by how bad its controls are in contrast to adventure. I know currently adventure fans don't matter. My goal is to change that. Whether you think that's futile I don't give a fuck nigga, I'll do it until I can't be bothered to do it anymore. By then I hope other people from /v/ continue what I've been trying to do.

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itt: my unintentional physics exploits are better than your unintentional physics exploits because reasons

>>376936862
I read this as "Bootshit".

>>376955526
combined with having 4-7/10 game streak makes them looks them/me look worse because there's no reason to like something that is bad so much. as for weird fans every fan base has them those other games are probably good though. if we got a mario chris chan no one would care.

>>376956410
i like both but making adventure look like its perfection is stupid. if i had to choose i'd choose adventure only because the stages might be fully 3D

>>376956410
You're wasting your time right now, honestly. I do think though your best time to strike is going to be around when Forces launches. If that game is as much a steaming turd as it looks right now, your efforts will have much more impact.

Now, the real challenge is going to be making someone at Sega care enough to kick Iizuka in the ass.

>It's another Boostfag tries to false flag to make adventure fans look like retarded even though boost2win shit and adventure shit are just different sides of the same turd that is 3D sonic gameplay thread

Sonic works in 2D. That is all.

>>376956825
I will be more consistent with actually making threads around forces release date and after it bombs.

I'll post in sonic threads other anons make though. You never know, some sonic youtuber might get their opinions from here when lurking, and if their mind is weak enough, one image will suffice to steer their opinion.

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it's always weird when an autist like OP is totally right

for example, unleashed for the wii and it's poor imitation of a racing sim where you do nothing but move to the left or right, and the "challenge" being in how slowly sonic moved from side to side, was pretty universally panned compared to the ps360 versions, so why did that suddenly change?

>>376957108
/thread

>>376957257

>so why did that suddenly change?

pretty much everyone agrees that the HD version is superior, what are you talking about

>boost babbies still defending nu-Sonic
No

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>>376957385
>/threading yourself

>>376957606
it's like this every time
thankfully I got better arguments in my OP now so I can't get fucked up as much like I did in threads 1 & 2

>>376957257
people listened to e-celebs who kept memeing "SONIC MUST GO FAST! THATS ALL HE IS ABOUT!"

>>376936862
fuck off already, your favorite games are shit and you are literally autistic. you may need to kill yourself, you're getting worse than cwc

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>>376959660

>>376959763
thank you for sharing a picture of your house.

Sonic sucks. Let him die already. No more autism, no more shit games, no more living memes. Sonic was good and now he's not, stop trying to revive a dead pet.

New OP format, pls let me know if I should add/remove stuff

Boostshit is NOT suitable for 3D platforming.
All you do is boost through a cinematic experience with smartphone endless runner controls
>jump once
>dash left
>dash right
>crouch
>then they send you to fuck off to a 2D section for actual platforming

Any 3D platforming in a bost game is automated
>hoaming attacks over a bottomless pit
>trampoline chains
>rails
quicktime events (QTE)

The only games where Sonic was fully in 3D were:
>Adventure1/2
>Heroes
>Shadow the Hedgehog
>06. if you hate this one you are a grumptard btw.
You had true control in 3D space. In Adventure1/2, you could do so many cool things with
>spindash+jump
>bounce bracelet
>directional influence while on air
with a level of accuracy boostfags could only dream of.

Since SEGA will not make Adventure 3, we'll have to hope for a fan game that gets noticed by SEGA.
This is entirely possible since they got people who made shitty ROMhacks to make an official game (Mania).
>reverse engineer SA2 physics engine
>remake all classic SA1/2 stages on it
>have more custom stages
>have big youtubers do lets plays of it
>with big traffic, it will eventually get seen by SEGA
>if it's a big success, they will get hired to make SA3

[Attention to BOOSTFAGS who hate Adventure style]
FUCK OFF. You never liked Sonic. Boost games = temple run controls.
>What is wrong with the Boost formula movement/physics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2XhWSvjMo [Embed]
>B-but in Adventure if you move your thumbstick in any direction while at max speed you will get rammed into the wall/fall off to a bottomless pit!!
git gud faggot, at least the game is not holding your hand like boost games, you have true control over sonic in Adventure.
SONIC SHOULD NOT CONTROL LIKE A CAR IN A 3D PLATFORMING GAME. IMAGINE TRYING TO PLATFORM IN A RACING GAME LIKE MARIO KART.

Previous threads:
>>376936862 [#3]
>>376505374 [#2]
>>376413978 [#1]

when did the "if you say 06 is SA3 you watch game grumps" meme start? it's not even right people have been saying that pretty much since 06's release. it literally is SA3

also boost sonic controls like shit when you're not boosting which is why the 3d sections are linear hallways and any platforming is restricted to 2d. sonic just sucks.

>>376957108
agreed we will never get a good 3d sonic,sonic team cant even get 2d gameplay right after 4 years

>>376961889
it's pretty much only me that's been saying "if you say 06 is SA3 you watch game grumps"
Any criticism toward 06 I will defer it as game grump watchers unless I get a picture of the game+timestamp. Thus far no 06 hater has provided me with that, they never played the fucking game mate. Even though saying 06 is adventure 3 is not a criticism, I'll still force my meme because I can.

>>376961889
It's Sonic Adventure 3 INSPIRED. Not is. The actual Adventure title are more in line with each other than what 06 """tried""' doing. Heroes, Shadow and Unleashed are more "Adventure 3" than 06, especially the former 2 because their stories are literal continuation of SA2.

Only people that hate the Adventure games says this shit. At least Unleashed was the closest attempt at the "Adventure" feel compared to 06, which is actually a reboot retelling of the beta of Sonic 1.

>>376962261
I own the game, its awful. I first played it back in 2007 when I was a full blown sonic fag and even then I was speechless at just how bad it was.

You can't defend this game. Loading screens, clipping and collision detection issues, physics bugs, characters slow as molasses, Amy Rose, Knuckles and Rouge getting stuck on walls, Tails' dummy ring bombs, giant empty hub worlds, the fanfiction nonsensical storyline, the bestiality kiss, I could keep going.

>>376962539
>a reboot retelling of the beta of Sonic 1.
The fuck does this mean?

>>376962758
He thinks that because Sonic was at one point supposed to have a human girlfriend that means sonic 06's story is the same as Sonic 1's beta.

>>376962739
better to just ignore him, anon. his autism is limitless.

>>376962739
show me your game and post a timestamp

all these """""""arguments""""""" = literal e-celeb
"LOL! THIS GAME IS ACTUALLY GOOD BC I HAVE FUN LAUGHING AT THE BUGS XD XD LOL THE CAMRA SO BAD!!"
you will not find bugs unless you look for them in normal gameplay.

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>>376959763
>Post Shadow pictures.

>>376962261
>>376963073
The hilarious thing is that your argument relies on the assumption that anybody would want to keep a copy of Sonic 06 lying around after playing it.

What is this autismfest?
Can someone give me a rundown?

>>376963073
The game is a multi million seller its easy to come across and like I said I was a sonic fag and wanted the game, why is so hard to believe that I didn't like it? Is everyone that says Superman 64 is bad just lying too?

Explain why the game is good then

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>>376961889
For fuck sake anon. Stop with the sentence gaps.

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>>376963134
>>376963289
you did not even play the game. stop pretending/making excuses. until I see a game+timestamp with someone saying those e-celeb MUH CAMRA SO BAD LOL! CLIP THRU DA PHLOOR!! arguments, I'll assume you are a game grumps fan.

The game is worse than both adventure games and heroes. But it is much better than any of the boost games simply because of how fluid the controls are. You can move your character around with true control just like Adventure.

>>376963238
nothin 2 see here

BUT YOU CAN HARDLY SWALLOW
YOUR FEARS AND PAIN

>>376963238
1. Adventurefag has autism
2. Adventurefag sees people criticizing the Word of God incarnate in video game form, Sonic Adventure
3. Adventurefag sets out on a crusade to reeducate the poor deluded masses unto their true purpose on this Earth: to defy the will of Satan as he temps thee with 30 degree inertial movement
4. Adventurefag makes shittons of threads
5. Adventurefag begins multiple sub-crusades against lesser sins as the threads continue; sins such as saying Sonic 06 is bad
6. The present day.

>>376963238
Sonic Fag that constantly goes on about some sort of speed boost in Sonic games. NO cunt knows what the actual fuck he is going on about. Seems obsessed with Shadow and even argues with himself in his own threads.

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3D sonic gameplay rankings (not other characters)
Adventure2>Adventure1>Heroes>Shadow>06>>>>>>>>>>>>
>black knight>secret rings>unleashed werehog>unleashed sonic>colors>generations

>>376963484
Why are you so fixated on Game Grumps, anyway? Even if somebody did only experience Sonic 06 secondhand there are plenty of other playthroughs online, most of which existed before those fags.

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Whatever you do OP, never lose hope, I agree 100% with you.

I too wish for a SA3, a true one, not 06, and not Unleashed.

I actually want them to remake Sonic Adventure on the forces engine because it looks alot tighter than generations engine. I also want them to make big the cats section an optional minigame. Maybe expand and recreate the hubworlds too.

I never liked SA2 though, I felt cheated, mostly because Tails was in a mech, the stories were wrapped together, and there was no hubworld to explore.

If they remade SA2 to be more like SA1 in the remake, maybe give tails his Sonic Battle weapons, make hubworlds for it, and split the stories up, I would definitely like SA2 more.

I think in order for SA3 to happen there needs to be a reboot of SA1 and SA2 to close the gaps.

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>3D sonic

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>>376963791
You are the OP you absolute twat.

>>376963716
I wonder if he legitimately believes people liked Sonic 06 before Game Grumps "tarnished its good name".

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>>376961282
>>376936862
OP have you heard of this fan game called Sonic World? You should take a look at it, and maybe spread the word about it and get more people to help make this game. If you truly are passionate about it, this team needs coders desperately. There is like 1 guy coding the thing and 15 stage makers. The original guy who made it is leaving the project soon and handing it down to his apprentice devs.

It's a really cool project that you should look into.

>>376963596
this was very fun to read, I love u anon

>>376963682
if you read the OP you would understand, retard

>>376963716
have you been to BOTW threads? I thought it was established that watching playthroughs is not the same as playing the game.

>>376963791
thanks for the support anon. yea i loved tails gameplay in SA1, sux we got those clunky ass mechs. I will cum in my panties if the 3rd character turns out to be adventure sonic

>>376941256
>fps 30
Silky smooth

>>376963992
>someone inst a part of the retarded hivemind
>they must be OP
I'm actually not

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>>376964108
I downloaded it and played through a couple stages, it's very interesting. The problem with mentioning it in these threads is that turbo autists will call
>SHILL!
>SHILL!
>SHILL!
as soon as it's mentioned (which happened in the previous threads)

>>376963992
nope

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>>376964128
>I will cum in my panties if the 3rd character turns out to be adventure sonic

Third character turns out to be a game no ones wants.

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>>376962758
>>376962869
I mean, is it not?
>Sonic the Hedgehog (1991)
>Originally Sonic had a human companion who happens to be his girlfriend
>Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)
>Sonic has a human companion who happens to like Sonic, like as a girlfriend.
Coincidence? I mean 06 is CALLED "Sonic the Hedgehog", like the first.

>>376964235
that's how the game was originally coded
there is a 60fps hack, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a boostshit game with forced 2D sections.

>>376964385
;_;

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>>376963484
Here's your proof. I own the game and it's shit. What now?

>>376964652
Good handwriting and cute :^).

>>376945634
You're the nutjob that outright calls his shit propaganda, normally not a term used by people who insist their views and opinions and geniunue to say nothing about you wanting E-celebs to preach your views, despite telling anyone who disagrees with you (including calling 06 a bad game) as a game grumper.
You are effectively just repeating Hilary's thing where she responds with anyone not agreeing with her as a fascist misogynistic babyraper because obviously that's the type of person who would disagree with her.

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>>376964652
i lose

>3D were Adventure, Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, and 06. You had true control in 3D space.

I don't think there was a single moment in Sonic06 where I felt in control.

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>>376964723
I'm here to push a message and ridicule everybody who disagrees with me through memeing. My images do not show the whole story = very simplified case = propaganda for my cause. I am fully aware of this and this is intentional to keep things simple.

>>376936862
Sonic Forces is gonna adventure gameplay. stop making these threads

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>>376965028
but the trailer showed it has boost. the only thing that has me interested is the webm i posted here >>376950692
it actually looks like a tight turn.

Obviously for all we know he could have had his thumbstick all the way to the right and made such a shit turn though.

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>>376945848
The easiest way I can explain this is with a Do and Don'ts bullet list.

Goal: Encourage more genuine and critical posts. Avoid shit/same posting.

Don't:
>Turbobait. It'll only attract shitposters and anons that won't take you seriously
>Post everyday. This is not /vg/. Even though we are more active, we won't bother to look at "Repeat Thread #27"
>Post the same content. No one is going to take you seriously

Do:
>Post original content and new images. Even if you feel your image is "perfect," find new ways of presenting those ideas. Even if the core message is the same.
>Post on occasion, not everyday
>Let threads die. Sometimes, not everyone that wants to talk is available to talk on a time frame that the thread is up. If your thread dies let it die. Just make another one a couple of days later with new/reconceptualized information

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What's with the indigo box and its autism brewing powers?

>>376964996
You're undermining your point by simplifying your case, rather than getting into the nitty gritty of why you are correct, you make wide, sweeping statements while also making yourself look like a completely unapproachable and unreasonable shithead who goes 'lalallalalalala I'm not listening' whenever anyone tries arguing with you, using childish insults that honestly feel more at home in the animal house that is the US Senate and Congress just replace Game Grumps with Fascist, or socialist, or globalist or whatever has any given senator and congressman's undies in a bundle today.

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>>376964873
>ITT: People who cherry pick OP's statements

OP is absolutely right, even if some things he says are retarded. He is right, boost sonic is shit and not good for 3D platforming. Not to mention the boost games remove the other playable characters. Why should mania get Tails and Knuckles and forces get stuck with 2 Sonics for the Second time in a row?

This boost genre is killing sonic off almost completely. There needs to be a renaissance, and instead of people shitposting and being contrarian fucknuggets just for shits & giggles, they really should help.

If you care about this series you should help OP. Think about this, without the big budget 3D games, there is no money left to make the 2D mania titles. Is that what you want?

3D Sonic has been on a dangerpus declining path for years and something needs to be done. Lost world was absolutely horrendous, and Boom was just disgusting.

>>376965395
Meanwhile in reality boost is doing better than all the failed attempts. But yeah, those nasty contrarians amirite? There's no way people don't prefer the game I played as a kid on my autism cube that breaks every 20 seconds, has shit controls, camera, requires heavy scripted to even appear functional and is ultimately nothing like Sonic.

>>376965251
I'll keep this in mind, thanks anon

>>376965376
there is a reason why my threads get this big though. the way I am acting triggers a lot of people. ITT I did minimize my deferral of arguments though. A healthy amount of memeing is required for the thread to stay alive imo.

>>376965395
thanks anon, yea I need all the help I can get against the boost hordes

>>376936862
You fags are the reason why the future is going to be absolutely awful
that's still 90 degrees, not 120

>>376965691
>doing better
How?

-One playable character(Another Sonic doesn't count)
-Slippery shitty uncontrollable movement
-Terrible platforming
-2.5D
-No hubworlds except for unleashed(which were absolutely fantastic btw)
-No multiplayer

It's like a complete over generalization of the series, it's ignoring the things that made it good in the first place. It's sad at this point that we are getting a better 2D game than a 3D game at this point, because of the simple fact that both Knuckles and Tails are playable.

Boost games are extremely unimaginative, and dull. Its hold X to win, theres no skill involved, and the levels are basically idiot proofed with invisible walls. Sonic was meant to be a platformer, whether in 2D or 3D.

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>>376966029
it is 120 degrees with respect to adventure's initial position. I made it very clear in the OP just so you retards wouldn't show up but you still don't understand relative motion.

>>376965923
>there is a reason why my threads get this big though. the way I am acting triggers a lot of people.
More like because you are supremely annoying and can't take a hint all while clinging to the rules that you're not violating anything when making blatant repeat threads over and over again, all while admitting you wrote them all, and now, that you have it copypasted in notepad

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>>376936862
>>376965395
>>376964128
>>376963791

Lines look the same.

Lines Look the same.

Lines Look the same.

>>376963484
>06 better than boost game
you just your credibility

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>>376965691
>shit controls
>shit camera
kill yourself dumbass. The controls are perfect. You never have to move the camera during normal gameplay

>requires heavy scripting
this is because the e-celebs you are citing here in your post ;^) keep pushing the meme "SONIC IS ALL ABOUT GOING FAST!" so they need to get their dose of SPEED CINEMATIX without effort.

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>OP is trying to start a revolution amongst a hivemind

You'll have better luck on reddit. /v/ is just like 6 people OP.

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>>376965923
Not its because half the replies are you talking to yourself. The other half are the rest of /v/ wondering what the fuck is going on in your head.

>>376936862
>120 deg
>ends up being 90deg
I dont think you understand how degrees work.

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Post yfw sammyclassicsonicfan is among us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhjVU8WNCZ8

>>376966715
it doesn't take effort to get speed in adventure just spam spin dash.

>>376966179
>How?
Sales and quality.

>-One playable character(Another Sonic doesn't count)
Autism. Multiple player characters only mattered in 3&K to date, as the game was designed for it. The concept is completely alien to 3D. God help you if you're hoping for treasure hunting and mech.
>-Slippery shitty uncontrollable movement
Yeah, I hate Adventure too.
>-Terrible platforming
Boost both has more platforming and is less automated than Adventure ever was. The only pre-boost 3D Sonic to ever get decent with platforming was Heroes, but the rest of the game was so bad, especially the trio mechanic, it was pointless.
>-2.5D
True, it is bad. But at least the level design is quality.
>-No hubworlds except for unleashed(which were absolutely fantastic btw)
The days of Unleashed budgeting are gone, you won't see a hub world ever again.
>-No multiplayer
Irrelevant. SA multiplayer was garbage.

>It's like a complete over generalization of the series, it's ignoring the things that made it good in the first place.
Like what? It's carrying over the homing attack cancer from early 3D Sonic and it's still missing momentum based platforming, but it's still the closest 3D Sonic ever got to 2D Sonic as a platformer AND the most functional.

>>376966852
He really isn't though, you just can't handle that some of us agree with OP

>>376936862
Sonic Adventure were not acceptable 3D platformers either. They were shit, overly scripted run forward games.

>>376966990
He really is though. But what ever makes (YOU) happy. You keep being you. Nutcase.

>>376966715
Okay. Take away all the dashpads, all the spring strings, all the loops, all the ring trails, what's left?

>>376942614
Game Grumps are dumb a lot of the time but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Sonic Adventure is one such example.

>>376967178
Don't be ridiculous, people I dislike can't ever be right and if you reach common sense you're just parroting them.

>>376966870 read
>>376966376

>>376966179
>One playable character(Another Sonic doesn't count)
You act as if other playable characters weren't the worst fucking part of Sonic Adventure

>>376966179
>theres no skill involved
As opposed to the scripted shit in Adventure?

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>>376966962
>sales and quality
Sales maybe, Quality no

>treasure hunting and mech
Who said this? I hated those.
Why wouldn't Sonic-styled gameplay work for knuckles and Tails though? Tails gets the ability to fly and tail whip, and Knuckles gets the ability to glide, climb and punch.

>Yeah I hate adventure too
Now you're obviously just baiting. Adventure had far tighter controls than any of the boost games.

>Adventure
>Automated

>Boost not automated
Now you're just being retarded

>SA multiplayer
I think you meant SA2B multiplayer, and this also proves that you're an underaged little shit because I had some of the most fun with my friends playing 2 player SA2B back in the day

>the closest 3D Sonic ever got to 2D sonic as a platformer and the most functional
8/8

>>376966962
the 3d platforming in boost games is just trampoline chains and hoaming attacks though. you have been tricked.

your post screams that you didn't even bother reading the OP. The day of those arguments working are long gone because of my autism. They're already debunked since the thread began.

>>376967042
see
>>376937004
>>376954815

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO8is6Y3L4Y

You had so much freedom to choose your own path with great platforming mechanics.

Reminder that Mario has always been far better than Sonic anyway.

>>376967386
>one playable character is bad
>all playable characters must be bad
Nice logic faggot

>calling adventure out for having no skill involved
>boostshit lets you press 1 button to finish an entire stage
In adventure and adventure 2 you actually had to jump to platforms and rails without being guided or having your hands held. It required precision, precision you cannot get from boost games.

>>376967776
>one playable character is bad
>all playable characters must be bad
Literally everything but Shadow and Sonic was fucking shit.

Boost games at least hold the illusion of going fast. Adventure was just a subpar platformer that went at a fast pace.

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>>376967776
so much this

>>376967957
Knuckles and Rouge had fun gameplay, and Tails gameplay in Adventure 1 was good too.

Do we have a name for OP yet? Adventurefag? Grumpfag? Anything?

>>376967583
not him but its a mixture of both platforming and gimmicks like springs that do stuff for you in both boost and adventure games. i don't get why they cant give sonic a high jump move and get rid of springs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEg9-BP6vLw

>>376967512
>Why wouldn't Sonic-styled gameplay work for knuckles and Tails though? Tails gets the ability to fly and tail whip, and Knuckles gets the ability to glide, climb and punch.
It's completely irrelevant if the level won't accommodate their playstyle.

>Adventure had far tighter controls than any of the boost games.
Absolute bullshit. You flick the stick even slightly when running and you lose control. All 2 did about it was make everything a straight line outside treasure hunting. Grinding is dreadful too. And good luck hitting contextual actions and not doing the dumb fire spin crap.

>and this also proves that you're an underaged little shit because I had some of the most fun with my friends playing 2 player SA2B back in the day
Back in the day meaning Gamecube. Yeah, I noticed the trend. Dreamcast owners never developed this obsession over rather mediocre games. Probably because we had very good offerings, while you still play internet defense force to games like WW.

>>376967747
Only in 3D. MS and GG games were garbage and anything after 3&K might as well not exist, but these 4 (technically 5) were definitely up there.

>>376967707
>choose your own path
>only bypassing loop segments

lol

>>376968412
How would it not accomodate their playstyle? Are you retarded?

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>>376968101
>Knuckles and Rouge had fun gameplay
Adventurefags are this delusional

>>376968107
http://www.strawpoll.me/12967581
include me in the screencap XD

>>376968107
Why would he be called grumpfag when game grumps hate the adventure games?

>>376968575
They take their sweet time designing levels and the budget is only getting tighter with each game. Seeing as no other game since 3&K made it work, it's safe to assume it won't happen and if it does, it'll be half-assed.

>>376968871
For the same reason Barneyfag is called Barneyfag.

>>376968412
>Absolute bullshit. You flick the stick even slightly when running and you lose control. All 2 did about it was make everything a straight line outside treasure hunting. Grinding is dreadful too. And good luck hitting contextual actions and not doing the dumb fire spin crap.

not him but i'm more of a boost fag but the controls of sonic in sa2 aren't difficult at all you are just bad or trolling.
i do agree having the fire roll mapped to the same button as spind dash and power attacks(2player only) is stupid.

also rails are best done in adventure 2 because you are not just hold one button like ever other games that has rails minus rush series.

>>376951291
>but there's trigger buttons available to slowly move Sonic to one direction or the other for usage of either sharp turns or drifting
Sonic already has a button for drifting. Buttons, even - they're the triggers in Generations and Unleashed (I think, it's been a while since I've played Unleashed). The main issue is that I feel like there should be a way to control how fast Sonic turns while drifting, so variable sensitivity for the sharpness of his angle would be a nice expansion of his current moveset.

>>376951696
You point to that example and then ignore that Generations and Unleashed have speedruns where people use the level geometry for skips just like the example you showed. In fact, they might have better uses for using the level geometry in interesting ways, as well as bigger skips compared to any of the Adventure games. Just check any speedrun of Unleashed/Generations levels. Hell, here's the first result for "Sonic Unleashed Speed Run Rooftop Run"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oaBSvwxz44

The skip he does at the beginning is almost exactly like the example found in your webm, but harder and with a bigger risk involved - it uses player skill to skip parts of the level by creatively using the level geometry. Just because it's too hard for you to do, doesn't mean that the boost gameplay is bad.

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Sonic Adventure is the Dragonforce of videogames if you like it you legitimately are on the spectrum.

>>376968932
Does this guy namecall people as grumpfags though?

>>376969140
Yes. Whenever you disagree with him.

Sonic Team would have a bigger budget if they had fucked off with Sonic Heroes and made SA3 when people cared about it. Now they have to pay the consequences of a dying brand for listening to retarded classicfags.

>>376966376
>>376967334
I'm an mech engineer, kid. That's not how angles work, he still turns 90 degrees.
>BUT IT INITIALLY STARTS AT 30 DEGREES INSTANTLY THEN TO 90 GRADUALLY SO ITS 120
Flawless logic retard.

>>376969234
Oh well grumpfag is perfect then

>>376969103
What if I ironically like it while knowing full well it's an objectively bad game

>>376969612
Guess what I ronic shitposting is.

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>>376969065
looks very cinematic
these skips dont feel as satisfactory as they do in adventure because you don't have full control of your character.

>>376969281
yes, pandering to classicfag e-celebs who keep moaning for 'JUST GO BACK TO THE ROOTS MANG' killed SEGA

>>376969681
But I'm not shitposting
I think the game has a really comfy late 90s atmosphere and manages to be charming while playing like shit

>>376969060
Grinding has the same problem. Controls are so sensitive you end up hitting the rather large "bad angle" on every turn and twist and lose all speed.

>>376969612
You're a retard, but I respect you

>>376936862
>mario gets memes based on it's interesting mechanics and PARALLEL UNIVERSES
>sonic has this faggot
embarrassing

Childhood is when you idolize Sonic. Adulthood is when you realize Mario makes more sense.

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>>376969989

>>376969904
hhmm not gonna lie i think that's true but only on every level that isn't the gamecub version. i can always do it perfectly on game cube but not on ps3 or xbox. but still the concept it self is still better than grinding in other games. i hope the they don't bring back rails in forces if they aren't gonna make them good.

>>376970461
only on every console*

>>376969704
For 17 years they bitched and squaled to get their way. They even had romhacks and the Sonic Advance games to tide them over but it wasn't enough. So they decided to ruin the 3D games for all of us instead. In my opinion boostshit was a plan divised by classicfags to ruin the 3D games. It started with sonic rush and spread like cancer afterwards.

The classicfags have to be the most autistic selfish side of the fanbase to ever exist.

>>376969704
>looks very cinematic
I can say the same about your webms - your argument boils down to "It looks like it's scripted/cinematic so it must be!".
>these skips dont feel as satisfactory as they do in adventure because you don't have full control of your character.
At the very least, I know you haven't ever attempted to do any of that shit, but the stuff done in that video is likely much more harder than what you can do in Adventure, and they're much more entertaining to watch and do. As for your "you don't have full control of your character", that's bullshit. If you didn't have full control, you'd be put on rails and the shit shown in the video wouldn't even happen in the first place. If you didn't have full control, Sonic Team could just put you on a spline and force your hand forward. You're getting mad that you can't turn 90 degrees on a dot if you turn a hard-right because it means that you "have full control of your character".

And if you're going to get mad about how Sonic is put onto splines, and you don't have to maneuver your way through an obstacle, remember that both Adventure games used them heavily. It's not an old thing, and if you're going to argue that the modern games don't give you full control, recognize that the Adventure games are the exact same.

>>376970134
which e-celeb are you quoting with that statement sir? game grumps, may I guess?

>>376936862
Both are shit, and Adventure was only good because of Chao Garden. Sonic should stick to 2D.

>>376970678
It's a meme, you dip.

>>376969989
Nonsense. No one in this board values SM64, it's all memes around terminal autism.

permaban when?

>>376970609
this, very well worded
ill add some anti classicfag sentiment to my narratives in the future

>>376970614
harder=/=fun. it's harder because the controls are shit. this shouldn't be a feature. of course it's gonna be harder to make a fridge walk on walls. Adventure has many scripted sequences for eyecandy, most of which can be skipped with spindash+jumps (actual 3d platforming even if not intended). I'm not arguing for SA2's stage design. I'm arguing for how sonic controls.

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>>376971129
which rule did I break

>>376971363
None anon, they just can't handle the bantz so they are getting antsy now. It's funny to watch.

>>376971363
>Sonic 06 over anything
This HAS to be bait.

>>376971363
spam

>>376971363
avatarfagging

>>376971363
not riding my dick tehe

>>376971167
>harder=/=fun
It does tie into how satisfying it feels to complete a skip, which ties into your whole
>these skips don't feel as satisfactory...
bit. It also increases the enjoyment gotten out of a user watching, as it makes people who have also played the game think "oh wow, this player is so good that they skipped half the level like that!".
>it's harder because the controls are shit
No, it's harder because he's using a piece of geometry to propel himself off, and then land on a piece of land that can't even be seen until it's too late to change course. It's nothing to do with controls - if it was Adventure, you'd be praising the game for the innovative way that it gives speedrunners to make new paths.
>Adventure has many scripted sequences for eyecandy, most of which can be skipped with spindash+jumps
Same with Unleashed - there are sequences for eyecandy, most of which can be skipped with boosts and jumps. That's outright shown in the clip, and apart from the end sequence, everything scripted portion can be skipped. The wallrun can be jumped off of, the person deliberately fails the QTE that would have put him on a scripted path, so on, so forth. Exactly like Adventure.

See how similar our arguments are? It's like the games are made by a company who can't actually figure out what Sonic is supposed to be in 3D, so they applied put a new coat of paint on the same gameplay ideas they had almost two decades ago.

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>>376971513
feels good man

>>376971595
there would not be tripfag options if that was the case m8

>>376971548
not spamming, if I was going to non sonic threads and shitting them up then yea

>>376971671
l-lewd

>>376972054
by shit controls I mean this mate. >>376937237
watch that webm pls. now tell me how those shit controls don't make moving around artificially harder.

>>376972067
You are spamming by repeating yourself with the same subject, with the same phrasing, and with the same obnoxious attitude while spamming reaction images like a retard.>>376972054
>It does tie into how satisfying it feels to complete a skip, which ties into your whole
06's final leg was an absolute pain to do, and I sure as fucking piss didn't enjoy it when I finally beaten it, because it was a badly made, poorly balanced, section, on top of a badly made, poorly balanced game.

>>376936862
Good job OP, I 100% agree with you.

>>376972067
Since when has the definition of spamming required you to post in an already-established thread?

Not that it matters because you do that too.

I bet 10 bucks that adventurefag will sperg out slugfucker-style and flood the board once he gets perma/rangebanned

>>376971363
Global rule 6. You're a fucking autist and your posts more than reflect this
/v/ rule 3. Call me presumptuous, but I also assume you could also be deliberately pretending to be a massive fucking autist, and are using it as a cover for trying to make shitflinging threads (hence the 'boostfags' call out in the OP. On that topic, flagrant fanboyism is against /v/ rule 2, so there's that too), which as evidence by the past 300 posts, has succeed.

Course, what fucking difference have rules ever made on blue /b/?

Okay, seriously, there's something wrong with your formatting OP. That's actual Redditspacing.

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>>376972306
So, slowing down a character at high speeds to make it easier to control is bad now? You're ignoring the fact that at slower speeds, Sonic controls roughly as he did as in Adventure. Hell, Unleashed has him walking around a bunch during the hub-worlds, so they had to implement the variable control system found so he wasn't too slow while walking, but not too fast while going at full speed.

If you're referring to the fact that he now rotates to face the direction he's going, so changing directions quickly while holding forward makes him rotate in place, refer to pic related. You're retarded.

>>376972697
Difference is that 06's end section was a clusterfuck of design and gameplay issues hampered by a fuckton of bugs. The speedrun is utilizing a glitch to skip half a level. One of them is a shitty game, the other is a game of questionable quality with bugs that allow players to skip parts of the level.

One was forced to you, the other is a result of autism.

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>>376936862
Fuck off adventure fags you're just as bad as boost fags you have forever ruined Sonic beyond repair. You never loved Sonic if you loved Adventure. Mania is finally saving the franchise and giving Sonic back the respect and credibility he lost

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>>376972717
thank you anon

>>376972697
not bannable though.
the poster you quoted was talking about unleashed, not 06 o_o

>>376972787
>>376972892
report me then faggot, idgaf. I'm not breaking any rules. even if I were, mods are very likely adventure fans themselves so they'll let this slide.

>>376972996
>global rule 6
my images are OC, of high quality. I invested time and effort in their making. I also put a lot of thought into how I word my OPs. They are quality content.

>/v/ rule 3
every thread is filled with shit flingers. people fling shit at me, i will reply back.

>/v/ rule 2
not related

>>376973109
yeah i wrote it on a notepad and then pasted it without checking. sorry about that.

>>376936862
We already had Sonic adventure 3 and it came out in 2006 for the ps3 and 360.

Guess how it turned out.