How do you pronounce Ocarina? I personally pronounce it AH-carina

Ock a REEE nuh

EH

>>376904249
REH?

>>376904205
/thread

REH

>>376904141
Orcarina

>>376904338
More like DORKarina

It is clearly AH-carina.

Anyone who pronounces it OH-carina is stupid and tends to be a real loser.

AH-KER-RHINE-AH

>>376904319
/yourlife

>>376904141
O-KA-RI-NA.
オカリナ
It's not that hard, you fucking yank.

>>376904320
DOOT DOOT

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>>376904141
Oh-cari Do-cari

>>376904547
MOOT MOOT

>>376904613
Literally lol'd

>>376904141
It uses the short O as in "pot" but the Italians use O as in "go" hence the different pronounciations. I have never heard anyone say AH-carina in my life but apparently they do.

>>376904896
Jesus Christ you're retarded.

>>376904613
You seem like a nice guy, kek'd

>>376905284
Why would you start Ocarina with an AH sound anyway?

>>376905363
HMMM IDK? Think you dumb fuck.

OCtopus
OCtober
OCcipital

I could keep going, but I think you get the fucking point.

>>376904205
You mean that like ock uh ree nuh right, not ock ey ree nuh

>>376905503
OC doesn't sound like AH unless you're a southern hick though

>>376905503
Who the fuck pronounces it Ahtopus? T. Brit

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>>376905604
You're telling me you pronounce October as OAKtober?

Kill yourself.

>>376905503
I don't think anyone associates the sounds that "october" and "octopus" have in the beginning with the letters "AH" no matter how much you stretch your imagination

>>376905658
Have literally never heard it pronounced any other way.

>>376905694
I pronounce it as ɒkəˈriːnə because I'm not a stupid frogposter

>>376904896
>>376905363
"AH-carina" is the exact same pronunciation as "Short O" you dumb fuck.

>>376905764
Wtf are you even talking about.

October and octopus are pronounced with an AH sound you idiot. AH sound being the sound you heard when you pronounce the word hockey. hAHckey.

ahk (think ankh but without the n)
a (short a)
re (long e)
na (short a)

>>376905694
it's ock-tober, the o is so short if you left it out I still knew what you were saying

>>376905912
Where the fuck does AH come from?

>>376905913
no I don't fucking call the sport haawkey either you hillbilly mongoloid

I pronounce it COCK-ARENA

>>376905957
from ur mum when i put my peepee in her rofl

>>376905658
No one. They pronounce it "Ahktopus." Why are you omitting the C? "Ah" = short o.

>>376905957
You dumb nigger think of it as someone saying AHHHHHHHH!!!!

That's what we mean when we say AH. Did you think we meant AH at in "at"?

>>376906046
AW does not equal AH.

Fucking idiot, stop trolling.

>>376905764
>>376906046
Do you have any fucking clue how phonetic pronunciation works? How are you this confused by incredibly basic concepts?

>>376905913
A short "o" sound is never described with "AH"

>>376906098
What country do you live in, clearly we're on the same page but you learned English from a backwater hick.

>>376906098

That's not the same thing as short o.

Holy fuck, learn IPA you fucking anglos. Your language is so retarded you can't even describe how to pronounce words.

>>376905957
From the short O sound, as has been explained like four fucking times already. Are you mentally impaired?

>>376905658
Bostonians

>>376906180
Okay faggot, let me clarify then so we can stop arguing fucking semantics.

Ocarina as in Octopus

or

Ocarina as in Oak

Now stop fucking trolling.

>>376906180
How do you pronounce an "Ah" sound? I'm genuinely curious.

it's either pronounced Ock-arina or Oak-arina, personally the former for me

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>>376904613

>>376906301
IT'S BOTH
LITERALLY BOTH PRONOUNCIATIONS ARE ACCEPTABLE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>376906304
Like in "father"

>>376906412
This just got even more confusing

>>376906412
Alright so start like you're going to say "Father," but after the first syllable, switch to "Octopus," so you're basically saying "Foctopus." Aside from the F sound, is there any difference between that and how you'd say "Octopus" normally?

>>376906412
fAhther

AHcarina

Here you go you fucking autists: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ocarina#Pronunciation

[ɑ] or "ah" is American English, [ɒ] or an actual fucking o is the rest of the world. Now can we all calm down?

>>376906396
Is that an "AH" sound?

>>376906646
It definitely is

>>376906646
No that would be OOOOOOOOOOOO

>>376906168
>>376906175
You can't take a regular word with it's regular pronounciation and then replace some letters and say well they're pronounced differently but I use them to describe what the sound should sound like or whatever.

There is no world where "AHctopus" or "hAHckey" make any sense whatsoever. Cause, like, it's a fucking o. The letter O. OH. or whatever you would put that. OOOEh. And it's pronounced so shortly that it makes no sense in any way whatsoever to write it as anything that has anything to do with "AH".

Like I *get* how you fucking say AHctopus. It's just retarded, that's all. Normal people don't say it like that. Try fucking saying cktopus that would be closer to what the civilized world calls it. AHctopus is like what superhicks say or my 4 year old niece who's still learning to read and does it letter by letter

>>376905503
are you a fucking alien

>>376906752
Are you pronouncing AH like apple in your head?

>>376906752
I thought British people were suppose to be smart or some shit? But you seem pretty stupid. I don't get it!

>>376905912
The vowel sound in "pot" and the vowel sound in "ah" are different in most pronunciations of English.

It's the difference between "awe" and "ah".

>>376906752
>And it's pronounced so shortly that it makes no sense in any way whatsoever to write it as anything that has anything to do with "AH".
It's almost as if English is a mess of a language and there's more than one way to pronounce every vowel. Stop saying "AH" as your explanations are terrible and only cause further confusion.

>>376906905
So you pronounce "Pot" as "Pawet?" Get your shit together.

>>376906241
>anglos

It's only Americans who pronounce As and Os the same

>>376907029
He's obvious British lmao.

>>376907029

>cannot differentiate between short and long vowels

How are you this stupid

>>376907101
>being a dumb cunt brit

Leave, this is an AMERICAN website.

>>376907029
With an "awe" sound, yeah.

I'm from Boston, so we even pronounce "part" with an "awe" sound.

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>>376906412
>I pronounce it like this word with an "A"
>But you aren't allowed to describe it phonetically as "AH!"

only americans should be allowed to post here tbqh

>>376907269
Agreed.

>>376907101
No stupider than the person who phoneticizes a short O sound as "awe."

Why do Americans have Es and Os if they're both pronounced like As?

What a retarded language

>>376907342

>American calls you a twat
>He actually calls you a twot

>>376905503
The O in Ocarina isnt followed by 2 consonants like in October. If it was Occarina, then it would be an AH sound.
You really are dumb as fuck.

>>376907308

He obviously referred to the sound, not the length. How was that not obvious when he also used "pot" as an example?

>>376907469
Ocarina as in Octopus NOT ocarina as in oak tree.

>>376907342
I blame the country who invented it.

>>376907556
Octopus is also followed by 2 consonants. You are literally proving my point dumb tard.

>>376907469
>ocular
BTFO

>>376907101
The issue is not that anyone in this thread can't differentiate between long and short vowels, it's the some people are too goddamn daft to comprehend how these sounds might be written phonetically. Short O and "Ah" are the same thing. If they don't sound the same to you, it's not because anyone else doesn't know how to pronounce a short O; it's because you're pronouncing "Ah" stupidly and then refusing to heed any of the very clear explanations that have been offered to you.

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>>376904141
>>376904446
>>376905284
>>376905503
>>376905694
>>376905912
>>376906596
>>376907246
>americans in charge of phonetics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet

>>376907556

That's not really in contention, you people are merely confused about how either "octopus" or "ocarina" is pronounced. Americans use [ɑ], everyone else uses [ɒ].

Conversely, oak uses [oʊ] which is a diphthong and nobody is even talking about it.

>>376907716

No, [ɒ] and [ɑ] are not the same thing and never have been. Please learn IPA and stop embarrasing yourself.

>>376907519
Yeah I get that. You still don't phoneticize that sound as "Awe." Barring the use of special characters, you'd write it as - get this - "Ah."

>>376907674
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1eEDkRsntVE

>>376907459
*Twaht

>>376907927

Yes, in America. How many times do I need to tell you: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pot#Pronunciation

>>376907780
>Americans use their own
This language sure is exciting

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>This thread
>anglos in charge of pronouncing things

>>376907867
How many times are people going to explain that you're pronouncing two things differently while they're pronouncing them the same (and correctly) before you pull your head out of your ass and stop insisting "NO YOU'RE SAYING THEM DIFFERENTLY REEEEE?" Only embarrassment here is you.

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Is this whole thread some sort of satire? Is this real? Are Americans really this bad?

>>376908289

What are you even talking about? Two different sounds can't sound the same. Do you even know what IPA is?

>>376908034
>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pot#Pronunciation
Gee, how convenient that this features the pronunciation clip only for the "American" pronunciation, but not for the "British" one, thereby showing only that the word is phoneticized differently in the two countries but not actually proving that it's pronounced any differently.

America isn't so fucking isolated that we've never heard a British person speak before, unlike the reverse apparently. "Pot" is pronounced exactly the same in both countries.

>>376908490
Do you? You keep bringing it up as though it's somehow supporting your argument but it's not.

>>376908773

I dunno, this seems to be our conversation as far as I can tell:

>here are two different sounds as defined by IPA
>no they are the same shut up

I don't know what you want.

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>Britbongs in charge of being smart enough to comprehend the difference between pronunciation and accent

>take that "Where do you live?" test based on the pronounciation of words
>live in NYC
>get 100% NYC

cant even take you guys seriously. i bet you call Soda "Pop" or "Coke". Kys honesty.

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>people arguing pronounciation like it's some sort of opinion

Anglos were a mistake

>>376908878
>I don't know what you want.
I want you to stop clinging to IPA like a drowning man and rub two brain cells together long enough to understand that anonymous posters on an online image board dedicated to video games are not using IPA as a strict guide when writing out mouth sounds. The problem here has never been actual pronunciation; it's just how that pronunciation is being written out, which you apparently find to be tremendously confusing.

The same people that say "Oh Ka Ri Na" unironically pronounce Crayon as "Crayn"

>>376909091
I call it "soft drink" because that's what all Australian call it.

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>americans and brits in charge of having linguistic ability and being able to correctly pronounce words

Jesus christ

>>376909091
Everyone calls it "pop" here and I hate it. Soda is a much better word. And calling a Pepsi a "Coke" is barbaric.

If you pronounce a word that starts with an O, as if it started with an A, you are a stupid fucking shithead

>>376904338
that is how I pronounced it when I was young

now I know better. It Ack-a-ree-na

>>376904504
This, its the japanese pronunciation and since it is a game from japan it is only logical to call it okarina.

>>376904141
I pronounce it Oh-carina.

I'm from South England

>>376909238

I don't see anyone having trouble understanding written out notation, what I'm seeing is someone claiming "ocarina" uses the "ah" sound (you?) and people disagreeing with it. Neither of you is wrong, you're just talking about different sounds.

When people talk about short o in this thread they're talking about [ɒ], not "ah". You claiming they're the same is the problem here, as they're not misunderstanding what "ah" means, you're misunderstanding what "short o" in this context is.

>>376909238
It's tremendously confusing because you're writing out these pronunciation attempts in ways that nobody has ever seen before. He's "clinging to IPA" because the purpose of IPA is literally to avoid situations like this and you don't want to use it to solve this stupid mess.

>>376909503
But ocarinas originated in China, not Japan, so wouldn't it make far more sense to find out how the Chinese pronounce it and adhere to that?

>Americans in charge of teaching Brits how to speak English

Oh dear....

>>376909503
Ocarinas did not originate in Japan, the name is not Japanese in origin so it doesn't matter how the Nips say it.

Ok /v/ How do you pronounce

>Crayon
>Gyro (like a Greek Gyro)
>Caramel
>Hummus

>>376909503
So if the game had blantantly fucked up English you would use that?

>>376909831
>>376909696

the LoZ : CHINGCHANGPINGPONGWANGDONG of Time

>>376909917
>>Gyro (like a Greek Gyro)
...do you mean gyros? The greek meat stuff that is eaten with tzaziki?

I pronounce it güross.

>>376909917
>Gyro (like a Greek Gyro)
γυρος yee-ross

>>376904141
you pronouce it
flute

>>376909536
Jesus christ you're really just stupendously dumb. The confusion about what the "Ah" sound actually IS - in other words, the confusion about WRITTEN-OUT NOTATION - is what spurred this entire stupid discussion. Your entire argument so far has consisted of telling other people what they mean while they continually correct you.

>When people talk about short o in this thread they're talking about [ɒ], not "ah". You claiming they're the same is the problem here, as they're not misunderstanding what "ah" means, you're misunderstanding what "short o" in this context is.
The problem is both sides not AGREEING on what "Ah" means, it has never had anything to do with anyone claiming that it's pronounced the same as another sound and being wrong. It's like this:

>Anon 1 says "Ocarina" is pronounced with an "Ah" sound
>Anon 2 misunderstands how Anon 1 pronounces "Ah" and tells him he's wrong
>Anon 1 uses another word as an example of how he's pronouncing "Ah" for clarification
>Dumb sperg butts in and screams "THAT'S NOT HOW IPA WRITES IT WHY ARE AMERICANS SO STUPID" instead of actually using the examples provided for clarification to understand what was meant

>>376907764
You get to make calls on phonetics once you pay back your Marshall Plan debt

Ah-careena, like the O in lock. I'm from England.

>>376909917
Kray-yon
Jai-ro
Kara-mell
Huh-mus

>>376910280
Why would you use "ah" to mean a short o? Wouldn't Ock-areena suffice?

>>376909642
Expecting on 4chan to use IPA is an unreasonable expectation. Yes, had it been used from the very beginning of this thread, confusion could have been avoided - this is true. The issue is not that I'm refusing to use it; it's that the point at which it would have been helpful has long since passed and everything has been clearly explained in other ways by now. However, the clingy anon isn't just saying "Hey guys this could've been avoided if you'd just used IPA," he's saying "You're pronouncing these words wrong because I said so, and also IPA writes them differently from how you did." If he were to stop arguing that people are pronouncing words verbally in a way other than how they're actually pronouncing them, we'd be done here.

>>376909696
No...You maybe referring to similar instruments to ocarina like xun, but...like in most Japanese works, from anime to manga, they tend to take a motif from the europeans and try to mistify it.

The modern day ocarina is italian in origin and name. Types similar ocarinas are more than 10 000 of years old and show up in a lot of old cultures, from South America to China.

>>376910463
That would be more accurate, yes. I'm not very good at these things.

>>376909917
>CRA (cranberry) yon (yonder)
>JY (jive) ro (robot) [I understand that this is probably wrong; gyros are not popular in my area]
>CARE (literally "care") uh (hump) mel (Mel Gibson)
>HUM (hummingbird) mus (mustard)

>>376909503
Guess we'd better start referring to the titular character as Zeruda too, then.

>>376910798
"craa yon"
lmao
kys

>>376905563
Correct.

>>376910190

They were asking more examples of "ah" because they didn't think it described how octopus or ocarina is pronounced. When that was clarified, they merely disagreed that they should pronounced with "ah", and said it should use short o instead - that clearly implies that "ah" and short o should be treated as two different sounds, hence why you equating them is wrong.

>>376904613
Fuck, got me.

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I'm imagining this entire thread as Link trying to explain pronunciation to Navi using only Link sounds and it's fucking great

>>376904141

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ocarina

>>376904338

Are you one of those degenerates who says "MARRY-oh" for Mario and "SEEEEE-ga" for Sega?

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>>376910280
>Jai-ro

L M A O

It's pronounced YEAR-O ya fuckin DIP!

>>376904141
Oh Karen uh

>>376911792
Everyone in Australia says See-gah.

>>376912898
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1pq8qIZQulE

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>>376912941
>Everyone in Australia says See-gah.

Literally every Sega game starts up with the logo pronouncing the fucking name SAAAAAY GUUUHHHH wtf, how can you dip shits fuck that up?

>>376913237
Master System never did it. All we had on it was Wonder Boy and some shmup I can't remember for the life of me.

In British English, a short 'o' and 'ah' are completely different sounds, and saying 'ahcarina' just makes us sound American.

We also say 'Marry-o' considering that the closest you get to actual Italian.