>5k players on a weekend 2 weeks after launch It's almost

>Make weird mashup game that doesn't really appeal to anybody.
>It flops.

WOW

>>376903228
>Devs try branching out
>Actually make it less of a MOBA than 2
>RTS fans still sperg out utterly and completely because it isn't precisely what they want, and bombard the game after only one or two games
>"LEL LOOK AT HOW IT DIED! BUT WHY AREN'T THERE MORE RTS GAMES?!"

The reason it died is because Relic didn't count on how utterly atrocious the RTS fanbase is.

>>376904468

Their fault. When they started marketing it they said it would be a classic RTS.

>>376904661
When did they do that?

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>>376904468

This, just this.

Game isn't perfect but holy shit, 0.2 hours in and people give it a bomb review. You can't tell me that all this flack isn't a little autistic.

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>>376904468
So it died because the devs were too stupid to understand their core audience?

RTS is a dead genre and warhammer is a meme. this deserves no sales

games fine. with a bit of content itll build popularity.

>>376904468
>>376905667
Meanwhile Starcraft is thriving and having ASL threads on /v/ all the time.

Worth buying right now?

>>376906162
only if you like MP. campaign gameplay is crap

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>>376906162
No

It's worse than DoW in every way

Even 2 is better

Rts is truly a trash genre.

>>376905812
No, it died because the audience they were trying to appeal to will throw a shit fit if a single thing doesn't match what they want. It's virtually impossible for modern RTS to match standards set in the past because the sales would not support it. Hence, they branch out and try new things.

Unfortunately, RTS fans hate 90% of new things.

>>376906086
BW is argued as one of the best RTS games ever made, and in many ways it can back it up. It helps that Blizzard has effectively infinite money and can eat the costs of refurbishing it.

>>376906428
Wrong

>CoH
>Total Annihilation
>Supcom FA
>DoW DC

>>376906493
>Sales would not support RTS standarts set in the past
>because of that they put in new shit that even less people like and results in even less sales
truly a genius decision

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>>376903228
here you go, notice the beautiful female (male) at the bottom left

>>376906428

RTS is a trash genre because there's no warming up for people to get into it. Even vets.
>Make it easier to understand the genre
>It's basically spam first available non-worker unit and zerg

>Make it so it has a great tutorial
>How to Play [game] #1-80 youtube playlist (3 hours long)

>Make it deep and robust and exciting to play at high level
>See: Dota's playerbase, everyone thinks they know some nugget of wisdom to ensure victory, why can't my team FUCKING LISTEN (answer: everyone, including you, is retarded)

There's no winning.

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>>376904468
>>376905667
>>376906493
>Devs failed to appeal to customers
>Clearly the AUDIENCE is at fault
Holy shit guys, never go into business.

>>376906825
>one dude in red plaid shirt
>devs can't even organise a PR photo let alone a game

>>376906753
>Doing the same thing over and over again draws in customers

>>376906971
In literally almost any other genre it wouldn't be the case, but RTS fans are so utterly battered by the genre dying that they don't hesitate to fling shit.

>>376906493
You make less sense every sentence.

Mixing something new into a dish you already love can keep things interesting. Sometimes things don't turn out well. You can try something else before putting it on the menu.

From my experience mixing every type of food you like into one big smoothie generally doesn't work out too well.

>>376907567
>In literally almost any other genre it wouldn't be the case, but RTS fans are so utterly battered by the genre dying that they don't hesitate to fling shit.
>let's give RTS players something they don't want, that will surely net us loads of sales

That's not how it works m8.
If your customer wants to eat shit, you serve him shit and make sure he pays for it.

>>376906825
Thats just rude, they dont deserve that sort of direct venomous hate.

Sure, attack the game for being bad all you want, but attacking them personally is just idiotic.

the only thing that set sc2 and wc3 apart were the great campaigns and the custom games. No one really played the regular multiplayer super competitively besides asians. Does DoW3 have a good campaign? not really. Does DoW3 have custom games? nope.

Dead game.

>>376907567
>Doing the same thing over and over again draws in customers
What is fifa, call of duty, megman, mario, etc etc list foes on and on and on.

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>>376909361
>sc2
>good campaign

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>>376903228
all that delusion on general discussion
>the game is n..not dead!
>people are waiting for ranked
>70% player drop in less than a month?completely normal!

>>376909361
Pretty much this
There very small amount of people who want to play pvp multiplayer strategy games and this is why all the popular ones are focusing on single player.

>>376908387
Nope, the RTS genre's too small to make good money off of the current playerbase. The only way to make money is to make straight oorts of old games, which few outside of Blizzard can manage (And they're still catching flak for it already), or to make some kind of hit that draws in new customers.

>>376909539
>Fifa
Sports games don't work on the same line as others, as they're based on things that can't actually be changed much, hence more side additions than actual game changes.
>CoD
Literally powered by Mountain Dew and Teenagers. On top of that, people have started noticing the decrease in quality over time.
>Megaman
Literally a cameo character now.
>Mario
Have you played any of the newer ones? Ever played Sunshine? Galaxy? Galaxy 2?

>>376909872
Not him, but WoL and LotV were actually somewhat decent. Story isn't on par with BW, but the actual mission variety is a good bit above.

>>376910029
There's a general discussion?

>>376906825

Why is the video game industry so tremendously cucked?

>>376910290
on steam,in the community tab

>>376910483
>on steam
So its nothing. Even their official forums are declaring the game dead already.

>>376903228
I just wanted DoW1 with better graphics and massive battles, instead we get dow2 light, with tiny models and worse animation.

>>376906825
Holy fuck, lucky Space Marines dont exist or they would purge the fuck out of relic

>>376910991
Objectively wrong. If anything, they would encourage people to be against bullying, as it would increase cooperation and therefore make people more productive.

>>376911469
Maybe the smurfs. Plenty of chapters encourage people to kill each other on their recruitment worlds because that way only the strong survive and they have less potential candidates to sift through. And outside of recruitment worlds, many don't give one red hot shit about the populace. It's the Lamenters and and their fans that gave Marines a good name and turned them from mobile W.M.Ds into a feel good story for the population of Doomed-35412, a planet around the star "you're completely fucked for plot reasons".

>>376910745
>I just wanted DoW1 with better graphics and massive battles

honhonhon but DoW3 is exactly just that. You can field more armies than both DoW1 and DoW2 combined.

>>376911743
You presume we'd be a recruitment world. As I recall, Earth actually could be counted as some kind of minor paradise world (Assuming the Imperium instills order) due to still having natural areas that aren't farms.

As such, it's likely that
>Ultramarines
>Imperial Fists
>Salamanders
Would side against infighting.

From there,
>Iron Hands
>Raven Guard
>Dark Angels
>White Scars
>Blood Angels
Would likely not care, or at least not consider it something to be addressed by them.

The only Chapter that would likely act against that are the Wolves, and they're a bunch of furry faggots.

>>376912417
>Earth actually could be counted as some kind of minor paradise world
It's Feudal or Imperial. Too much population and human impact to be Paradise. Paradise worlds are worlds that literally look untoched by human hands outside the cities/luxury mansions/pleasure palaces.

>>376903228
it´s almost of if 40k fans don´t like the sjw direction they went with Dawn of War

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>>376910124
>Nope, the RTS genre's too small to make good money off of the current playerbase
So you make some abomination that caters to neither RTS, nor MOBA fans. Smart thinking.
You can come up with any and every excuse possible, but the numbers don't lie.

No one forced them to make a game for a dying genre, much less a genre with stock up players like RTS

>>376913475
I'll feed ya a (you), please tell me which part is SJW. Is it the emasculated orks?

>>376912417
Good thing Magnus took care of them.

>hey lets make a 40k rts!
>with mobashit elements, time-gated content and cartoon graphics :)

lmao (laughing my ass off)

>>376913584
Betcha he brings up Solaria, if anything.

>>376912758
My bad, forgot what the qualifications for each world are.

>>376913584
way to many female characters for a non sisters of battle 40k game

eldars is like 70% female and even the imperial knight is controlled by a "strong wyman"

seeing her in the gameplay videos was when I realized that this series was dead to me.
judging by the fans reaction I made the right choice by going with my good old formula of avoiding games full of sjw crap

376914532
You took my (you) and you pissed it against a wall. Forget I asked. I thought you had better bait in you.

>>376914532
>Eldar
Literally every female character from the Eldar have either been in previous games (Macha, Taldeer), or is a Lore Character (Jain Zar).

>Solaria
Female Imperial Knights are actually canon. On top of that, Solaria being the way she is actually fits perfectly considering the way Knights work.

>>376914837
>Literally every female character from the Eldar have either been in previous games
good argument to switch things up and give us some new cool male Eldars instead of 200% more strong wyman

>Female Imperial Knights are actually canon
as a male knights. she is a shitty sjw character and doesn´t fit at all in a setting like 40k

>>376904468
kill yourself rat

>>376915197
>as a male knights. she is a shitty sjw character and doesn´t fit at all in a setting like 40k
You know there's a male knight in the game too, right? And are you going to ignore the part where she and her personality actually do fit a Knight?

And what do you mean "200% more strong women"? That's not even mathematically correct.

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Mediocre campaign, few elites, too much reliance on elites, 3 races, few maps, 1 mode, no real base building, PROTECT THE CORE AND OUR TOWERS

I never played 1 or 2, but I can see why people are abandoning it. I'm not giving up just yet however.

>>376904468
>>376905667
>>376906493
>butthurt shills lash out at consumers for not buying their trash