>buy guilty gear xrd on steam >having fun in arcade mode

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I'll play with you OP I'm pretty new tot he G myself

If you've never fought anyone, how do you think you're going to win?

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Why is /v/ so shit at fighting games?

>>376873016
Why is /vg/ so shit at fighting games?

>>376872992
Little girl, you shouldn't be on the computer without an adult.

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>im shit
>therefore game is shit

Get good OP.

>>376872886
If you got double perfected then
1. You got reset/failed to block atleast 4-5 times in each of those rounds
2. Have zero fundamentals
3. Do not actually enjoy the gameplay if all you learned are combos and noway to apply them with a poor defensive and approach game.

GGXrdR is one of if not the best current 2d fighter tied with KOF14. It has air and ground neutral and tons of defensive mechanics. A good amount of fighting game skill is reflex/reactions. Then mind games/good decision making and execution.

I don't know what this magically gameplay you're using the word like a buzzword to describe it is. But it sounds like you put almost not work into the game compared to some other dude who actually cares to a degree on a fundamental level and you can't accept that.

You also have no experience against players over cpu from the sounds of it. They require you to have good reactions especially when you first fight someone and have no idea what their quirkers are. Also little matchup knowledge if you failed to block that many times.

>>376873014
I didn't think I was going to win. I just thought I might get to play the game.

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>>376873083
>>376873083
but papa said i can make friends playing the g mister

>>376872886
>pc master race

>>376872886
>he expects to be good at something he's never done before

vs player is an entirely different beast. Keep at it, get rekt, and you'll eventually git gud

>>376873016
This is a board that thinks Souls games are notably hard. That is what normies do. Normies are bad at 99% of fighting games and extremely mediocre at the ones that pander to them like NRS/SFV.

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When's the Revelator 2 release date for PC?

>>376873262
June 1st.

>>376873176
You did get to play. You didn't die in two 100% combos since they don't exist in GG minus danger time combos on Chipp as Slayer/Sin off super specific starters still. You died in probably 4-5 counter hits mashing like a loon. You could've bursted, alpha counters , blitzed, IBd , or barrier blocked to push them away.

You failed on a fundamental level and all things considered probably haven't really played the game. You just mindlessly hit buttons.

>>376872886
Do you think that you would be good at call of duty if you played easy mode story?


Do you think you would be good at starcraft because you beat the campaign?


Do you think you would be good at hearthstone because you did the vs AI missions?


Every skill based game takes TIME and EFFORT to build your SKILL. Get good, idiot.

I just want to play the game, not spend weeks reading about frames and shit. Sometimes I get a hankering to play a 1v1 fighter and it's bullshit that you aren't allowed to play one unless it's the only game you ever play.

>>376872886

play vs people your skill level.

>played P4A
>actually got kind of into it
>entered a tournament for Ultimax and people actually cheered for me
>but never got got remotely as good at other fighters even though I was bad at that game too

I really should sit down and try harder one of these days, there's nothing like the feeling of being hyped up.

>>376873406
I selected the option to match against people of the similar level.

>>376873383
Then play other people who are at your skill level, not random people online. It's not their fault that they are better than you. Your comment about "frames and shit" proves that you have no desire to put effort in.

You know there are hundreds of games that reward spending time getting better? Have you ever played counter-strike?

>>376873443
I love me some akihiko, i wish p4ultimax 2.0 came to ps4

>>376873478
How is the game supposed to know your skill level in the very first match you play?

Go make a lobby and specify beginners, don't be an idiot and just come here to whine about people being good at a game.

I think we can all agree tryhards ruined the genre. Literally no one except autists wants to learn how to combo and frame data for 10 hours a day just so maybe you can compete with other autists. I miss the good old days when fighting games were simple and actually fun.

>>376873495
No. I have no desire to get better. You shouldn't have to be good to enjoy a game.

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>>376872886
>Play Mortal Kombat X and only play single player, doing towers and other single player shit since have shit internet with high latency so can only do towers
>weeb friend convinces me to buy Guilty Gear and Blaz Blue games
>knows I can't play online
>tells me to play story mode and to tell him what happens cause he only has the most recent games on Steam
>tfw he bullies me and says "who plays fighting games for the story"

>Its another some /v/irgin retard can't play a fighter so the whole genre is shit episode

GG is amazing you're shit. Hypocritically i bet you're some shooter only cuck who criticizes people for calling the games you play as shit when they're bad but for you its fine to do so.

>>376872886
Don't button mash, you have to think about what your opponent is doing and look for your opening so you can react.

Anyone with xrd sign want a friend to fight? I got the game about a month ago and I haven't had time to play much.

>>376873556
There has been a pro scene for fighting games since Street Fighter 2. There have been people who will kick your ass and take your quarters for 20 years.
>>376873570
Just find people on your level. The fact you can't handle losing one match to someone better proves you aren't cut out for ANY game where there's a winner and a loser. Get over yourself.

>>376873383
>not spend weeks reading about frames and shit
You don't necessarily have to read and research these things to enjoy playing online, simply playing the games enough will let you get an idea of when its safe for you to press buttons or not. A lot of fighting game knowledge can come from trial and error. Although you definitely won't get good past a certain point without that technical knowledge.

>>376873406
also good advice, keep looking for people that don't completely maul you and let you learn at your own pace. It can be hard with a smaller game like this, but there are definitely beginners playing this game even on PC.

>>376872886
she looks noseless like krillen in the thumbnail

>>376873570
That is one opinion. Also you enjoyed the game until you went online didn't you? So what should skill ceilings disappear to appease you? Just go back to messing around in training/fighting CPUs. Or is your fragile ego so pathetic the idea that something you can't fathom or defeat existing bother you so it has to go away?

>>376873570
The game involves BEATING another player. You have to be better than them. You don't want to build skill, but you're playing a skill based game. Think about that.

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>>376872886
Stay shit fuckhead.

>>376873646
Funny. I'm always told if you have to think you are playing too slow.

So anyone wanna play revelator on steam? Would love to play. Preferrably someone who can handle the idea of a loss.

Link your steam if you're down! Maybe we can do a lobby! West Coast USA

>>376873556
>Ruined the genre.

People picked Guile in the original SF2 because he was ney impossible to whiff punish and had little to no recovery on booms and was simple as fuck then went to Sagat for the same shit.

Labeling people as tryhards because they're interested enough to delve into the depths of something is sad. I bet you're one of those people who literally think that the only things worthy of effort are relationships/work. Truly the saddest passion lacking people who need to be told by society what is deserving of praise and what is not.

>>376873806
The fact that someone can get a double perfect and play miles better than the other player, should show that thought is required.

>>376873570
Then play a different game, you're obviously not the target audience.

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>>376873506
I didn't like the changes they did going from P4A to P4AU, and I sure as hell didn't appreciate the matchups from some of the new characters, MARGARET

>>376873807
Wish i could PCbro PS4bro here and id love to play with you. But at the same time i've seen the fuck up that is Capcoms servers/game quality with their cross plat game so sadly ill take a good game separated.

>>376873910
My friend played Margaret and it made me quit. We were about even in P4A with me winning slightly more, but fuck Margaret is pure cancer. Didn't help that Kanji couldn't combo 5C into 2C anymore.

GG is a shit game anyway, doesn't even have good waifus.

>>376872886
That was me. GG, why the post game salt???

>>376873806
This is bullshit and whoever told you this is a idiot. Decision making is key in any good fighter. Ones that don't rely heavily on decision making are crap ass ones like SFV where the meta is buttons and strike throw 50/50. And even then basic decision making is required.


GG is incredibly decision heavy and yeah can move very fast at times but has plenty of ways to create space and figure out a plan in a few moments.

>>376873506
It's been a while since I read it. What changes did 2.0 make to the game?

I used to be like you OP, but then I realized I just suck at fighting games. Especially 2D reflex and combo based ones.

Really, I only wanted to watch the pretty animations and sexy characters do super moves. Though now I can barely manage tutorial levels for games that are often flavour of the month on /v/.

Not sure what type of person this makes us, I don't think my reflexes are especially bad. I am much better than most online people at racing games, however a fighting game just has a whole different slew of mechanics that aren't worth it if you don't have a talent to build off.

>>376872886
>buy game
>dick around in singleplayer
>play online
>get wrecked by people who know what they're doing
>make excuses and call the genre trash
if you're not having fun then it's all on you.
its like playing smash with your friends but refusing to learn anything, and then complaining when you lose.
you are literally that guy.

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>buy the game because people say it has a lot of single player content
>"story mode" is just a 5 hour long cutscene with no fights

>>376873570
>I have no desire to even learn how to play properly in order to prevent a rout
How about you go back to something of your caliber like Mario Teaches Typing?

>>376872886
>I enjoy fighting games for the gameplay.
>Why do people play these games for the gameplay

???? If you enjoy the gameplay, then you get better at it. That's it.

>>376874079
Pretty sure the person saying that was referring to having to think about how to do moves or combos, not strategies. Though honestly, a lot of mid-level players overthink their matches.

>>376873806
It's more like "oh fuck I'm getting comboed, when can I get out of this and how do I win the reset?", and trying to mindgame your opponent to set up your own combos.

>>376872886
>Why do people play these games if you can only enjoy them if you reduce the experience to reflex and muscle memory?

But jumping straight from training mode is just muscle memory of your combos, and you still lost.
It's common to think that all you need is a strong combo to just win.
You just haven't learned how to put yourself in a position to utilize them properly.
Combos are just damage boosts for taking advantage of your opponent in the main part of the game with spacing.

>>376874094
Not him, but I remember some general character nerfs and buffs. Shadow characters also got their own defensive burst that tied along with their shadow burst.

Also, rip Akihiko, honest character in a dishonest game

>>376874184
>I used to enjoy games because they were fun

And?

trial modes can't teach you to block

>>376874264
>a lot of mid-level players overthink their matches
Yeah, high-level play is essentially a slideshow of snap decisions with zero room for error.

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>>376872886
No you dummy, the experience is reduced to prediction, reaction, and knowledge.

-Predicting what your opponent will do
-Reacting to what your opponent can do
-Knowing all of the options you and your opponent have access to, so you can make better predictions and faster reactions

Reflex and muscle memory are a small, small, SMALL aspect of being good at fighting games, it's the beginner hump. You just don't realize it because you are still staring at the beginner hump. Learn your easiest combos (which are by no means hard, especially in GG thanks to chaining normals and relatively forgiving special buffer windows) and fight real people as much as you can. Fight those better than you, fight those worse than you, fight those at your level, FIGHT EVERYBODY. That will teach you everything you need to know as long as you know what to look for. If you don't know what to look for, go read a beginner's write-up on SRK or dustloop or something, this entire process is much easier than you think, and very fun and satisfying once the ball gets rolling.

>>376874330
I'm a scrub and combos seem important to me. But maybe that's because I remember playing an assload of games where I get a lot of hits in no matter the game, but lose because the other guy takes off at least a quarter of my life off of a hit and I only take about 1/12th at best.

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>>376872886
>I'm bad at the game and refuse to git guud so it's a bad game

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>>376872886
Check out a Jam player Lox if you wanna see how the flow of a great Jam player plays. In the right hands, she is a pressure monster that just hounds people if they try to fight back.

>>376872886
You need to find people on the same shit level.

>>376874816
I tried to rush in and apply pressure, but my opponent was playing Axl and I just can't wrap my head around his and Fausts reach. Like, what do you even do when they can kill you a screen away? Jump at them like a retard?

This is op
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVEdc8HzY7U

>>376873319
How do you use these techniques without Burst or Tension? I was killed before I ever even had a chance to start building them.

>>376872886
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/6a3vbo/guilty_gear_beginner_repository/dhbk8f0/

Thank me later faggot

>>376875093
Speaking of that, I don't get how people throw in GG consistently. It's really frustrating, I'm way too used to having a dedicated throw button.

I only play blazblue, might pick this up when rev2 is out.

Who is the closest to Susanoo and Izayoi?

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>>376875206
>links to reddit
>calls other people faggot

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>>376872886

>Cry because you got trashed trying the online for a game you've only put a couple of hours in

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>>376875093
>EvaXephon

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>>376874984
This guy here >>376874507

You had trouble against Faust and Axl because you didn't have the KNOWLEDGE of their playstyles. You aren't sure where their pokes go, you aren't sure which ones are safe and unsafe, you don't know where the blind spots are. You couldn't PREDICT their moves because you didn't know them. This knowledge either comes from raw experience or external study. Once you have the knowledge of their movesets, and a framework off which to predict their moves, you can REACT and punish accordingly. You can air dash through blind spots after a bad whiff, or punish from range, etc.

I'm deadass serious about this holy triangle, it's an absolute truth. Knowledge, prediction, reaction. Not trying to dismiss you, I know being a beginner sucks. You gotta work for this shit, and you will enjoy working for it once you recognize your own progress.

fighting games are only for people who use speed

I have depression and my reflexes are too dull to play them.

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>>376874984
Characters like Faust, Axl. and pretty much anyone with a long poking normal have an area where you can hit the them out of it.

Using my image as an example, imagine the red part is where if you touch that part with your character you get hit. But, if you use a move that hits the yellow area, they get hit and their move is cancelled instead.

Also, Jam herself has moves that either close the gap or outright avoid such moves, primarily her 236S/H.

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>>376875093
>Evaxephon

>>376875260
Same way you would in Street Fighter and King of Fighters. Guilty Gear is an old series so it has more in common with those kind of games.

______git gud

>>376875260
are you a smashcuckold? learn to play real fighting games faggot nintendo cuck

>>376873016
Anything that takes a modicum of skill is beyond nu-/v/'s capabilities. Even something as garbage as a fighting game made after 1999.

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>>376875093
and to think years later EvaXephon made his own prototype fighter just for his hero Mike Z to objectively shit all over it, and when Mike offered advice, Eva REEEEE'd and covered his ears. Makes this match all the more golden.

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>>376872886
thats the good thing about fighting games, you got nooone else to blame but yourself, you either get good or move to a thrash genre like overwatch and just blame others

>>376875384
Calm down loser.
A resource is a resource.

Petty elitism is why /v/ is shit at games and fails to realize how to get better.

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sf2 player here

how hard will guilty be for me to pick up? played a little bit of Accent core

love fast games, sfv is a fucking embarrassment but the ST community is small and I'm looking to branch out

>>376875093
>evacuck getting perfected by throws
L M A O

>>376875767
GG is the only game I played that has it. I dunno, it's mostly frustrating because it feels like I have to be exactly right up the person's ass to actually get a throw out, and even then it doesn't come out sometimes. Makes it seem worthless even though it isn't.

>>376875905
>implying I'm not talking about shit that even later SF games have like pressing two buttons to grab

>>376874009
>I got counter-picked and refuse to play more than one character
You know there's usually 16+ characters in most fighting games for a reason, right?

>>376873162
>GGXrdR is one of if not the best current 2d fighter tied with KOF14.
>>376873162
>KOF14
FUCK YOU

>>376876050
>implying I'm not talking about shit that even later SF games have like pressing two buttons to grab

if you ever played SF2 (which every single competent SF player probably has) you would never have this problem

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>>376876006
Here are a set of videos just for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl2PqSH4HKg

>>376876056
I played Junpei too but he's even more garbage than Kanji. I managed to win with Yu before I stopped, but I didn't even enjoy winning with him.

>>376872886
i'll play you in accent core plus
ive been playing fighting games for years and never bothered to learn a single combo

my thought process is more like "I havent pressed hard punch in a while I should press it now"

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>>376876050
That's the point, throws are supposed to be a high-risk thing because they bypass the almighty block. Rubbing all up on your opponent is a visual signal that you want to throw him, and you use that assumption to fuck with him instead of throwing. Then, when he least expects it, you run up and throw that nigga when he's been conditioned to expect standard pressure.

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>>376876161
thanks, after 500 hours of playing super turbo I need a break

>>376875196
Simple, you pressed too many buttons. Basic noob mistake is doing stuff like attacking on wake-up rather than blocking. That's what I'm assuming anyways. Best thing to do right now is to improve your defensive game

>>376876242
I just don't know how to make it consistent. Even when I decide hey, time to dash up their ass, I get Elphelt's slow ass flower move and now I'm fucking dead because that shit's slow.

>>376872886
Learn your neutral desu, combos and hitting the AI won't be enough.

>>376876553
you cant throw directly out of a dash, FD brake throwing is probably the easiest but is slower than just returning to neutral and then throwing

General question, hopefully someone can help me. I'm awful at fighting games, but I'm looking to get into games such as KoF 14 and GG. I was wondering: In terms of tiers(When it comes to KoF and GG separately), when do tiers truly matter? I guess what I'm trying to ask, at which point does it really matter as to who I should pick?

>>376876670
Oh, well that shit sucks. But at least I know now.

>>376876553
Best time to do mix-ups is after a knockdown or after projectile>yrc. Conditioning them is harder, but obviously at the point where you can predict most of their moves, the match is basically yours.

Another thing to try for throws is after a move with little recovery, such as most character's 2/5P.

>>376876723
Looking at tier lists are just for funzies and to see which characters are a fucking pain in the ass.

Once you've settled down with a character, you're pretty much set in stone with them.

>>376876723
Tiers dont matter until you really get up there just play what you enjoy and focus on getting better. Dont try and spread yourself too thin and try to improve 3 or 4 things at once focus on one till it starts happening naturally then move on.

>>376877049
I change characters every 2 months or so, I get real adhd about it until I'm juggling like 10 characters

I have some savant tier sperg memory though so I can remember all my frames and combo strings, so I never suffer for it

>>376876606
How do I go about learning neutral? I'm trying to learn Ky since he seems easy, and I'm not sure what goes into neutral beyond throwing out fireballs and pokes, and anti-airing their jump ins with a dp.

>>376877049
>>376877057
Would you suggest just dropping in on a character I think I'd like(Whether it be mechanically or aesthetically) or work my way with some specific characters?

>>376877405
Being good at neutrals means using moves at their optimal range, for maximum effect.

For Ky, the basics are as you say: using his fireball and baiting jump-ins with DP. His 5S is a great poking tool, and can go to some other moves if hit or block.

Try thinking about what moves are good in what situations and what you can do after them.

Also try to deduce how your opponent wants to get in and try to limit the ways they want to get in.

>>376873162
>tied with KOF14

Actually, KOF14 is quite terrible

way below Xrd

>>376876068
It's the truth.
KOF14 and Xrd just keep getting better and better.

>>376877405
Neutral in GG is more focused on movement so always have your mobility options in mind to stay at an angle in which your character excels at (mid for ky irc) and try to avoid staying in the same spot like in SF too often unless you're on the offensive. I'll try to make a longer post about neutral in GG later.

>>376877521
Whatever gives you motivation do everyone is different.

>>376877781
Why? Just curious.

>>376876723
Tier lists are more to show the amount of potential options a character has at the absolute highest level of play. Unless you've sunk like 1k hours at least into a fighting game you don't need to worry about tiers. It's not even about a poor player with a high tier fighter vs an experienced low tier. Two beginners who start on the same day will win equally with a high tier and a low tier character after a couple of weeks. If anything playing a high tier character makes it harder earlier on since everyone online will know your options better than you and already have a solid gameplan.

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>>376872886
OP, never play Marvel or Skullgirls if you're mad at that shit. You would be abused

>>376872886
Search guikty gear crash course on youtube. Thank me later

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>>376876280
>after 500 hours of playing super turbo

Are you for real?

>>376872886
>buy guilty gear xrd on steam
>having fun in arcade mode
>beat arcade mode with all the interesting characters
>decide I like Axl rose style the best
>do a whole bunch of training missions
>yeah, I'm getting the hang of this
>log in to play online for the first time
> no one online
fucking shit man, i really wanted to play

>>376878781
Unfortunately, fighting games that are not street fighter have to resort to using discord or some other social media to orchestrate some fights.

Or you can go to japanland and go relive the golden age of arcades.

>>376878960
i know, i have no trouble finding SFV matches, even locally, hell crossplay helps a lot, but for GG i have to look for steam and fb groups to even get someone to destroy my noob ass

>>376878672
yes and that's just in the past 8 or so months? it's my first fighting game

>>376873478
Unless you live in Japan, you aren't going to find a decent match in Ranked. Most people play in Lobbies.

>>376874228
There are like 300 trials and like 60 missions
The missions are actually important to go through if you don't know how to play GG or fighting games in general. Since it not only teaches GG stuff, it also teaches basic fighting games stuff, (reversal timings, meaties, defense)/(what to do vs specific character moves.)

>>376875260
A common mistake people do is hold a direction that isn't directly forward or back when trying to throw, if you do that, the throw won't come out.

Something like 1H/7H/3H/9H won't produce a throw. Your input has to be a clean 4H or 6H

>>376876362
No the best thing for this noob is to continue to play and get owned until you stop sucking. He played one game and came to /v/ to complain. Pain is the best teacher. Get in there fag.

>>376879078
Just make a lobby and wait

>>376873162
>KOF14

Try harder next time

And people say rts games require full autism.

I dont even know what the fuck you guys are talking about. I'll never get into fighting games. Too much damn micro.

>>376875093
>>376875936
Who's this faggot and what prototype fighter did he tried to make?

>>376873016
i'll body all you pussys her with my alex on SFV. anyone want to play? CFN: TheHero

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>>376880117

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>>376880538
>TAS

>>376880410
EvaXephon, now known as yanderedev, maker of yandere simulator

>>376880410
look up yandere dev on whatever lolcow site you like, you're sure to find something interesting

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Ram-chan is MINE

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>>376873383
You can always play Leo though.

>>376880490
>not his actual CFN
>Hero was last online 33 minutes ago on Steam
Why would you even do that Anon

>>376880382
Simple anon invite your most wimp buddy around for a game session. While he is there randomly punch a door for no fucking reason while screaming LIZARD PEOPLE STOLE MY ICE CREAM!

He will be too fucking scared and confused to play well. Double KO that cunt.

>>376880686
Holy shit, I saw one of his posts about his edgy MCs, always knew Yanderedev was a faggot but this takes the cake.

>>376880117

Could have easily killed him off the side switch, what a shitter

>>376880963
He baited the burst.

>>376880963
He tried to bait the burst.

>>376876553
You shouldn't be throwing with 6H anyways. The priority for buttons is P>K>S>H so you can throw with 6S+H and you will either get throw or close Slash if they are not throwable which is a 5 frame normal for Elph that will catch jumping and can be jump and special cancelled.

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>>376880617
Still fun to watch

>>376872886
>WOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW I HAD TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY THE GAME AGAINST HUMANS!
>BUGGED ONLINE MECHANIC

>>376878781
Host a public lobby and random people of all skill levels will join, I play with a friend pretty regularly that just makes the lobbies open when we play, and they usually fill up, and we've met a couple cool people that way and had everyone from absolute newbies even worse than me at the game to actual tournament level pro players hop in

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>>376875963
This right here. Fucking fundamentally this.

This is the reason shitters and normies absolutely flock to games like Overwatch and League. In a team game, it never has to be your fault. You never have to be the unskilled pile of trash that, deep inside, you know you are. There's always someone conveniently nearby to blame for whatever goes wrong.

In a fighting game, all you can do is fucking cry and rage impotently like a retard when you lose. You can blame the controller, you can blame lag, you can call your opponent a cheater, you can accuse them of using a "cheap" character. You can do all that shit. At the end of the day, though, you know that it was really just you sucking dick at something as trivial as a video game. There was no other human element to place blame on, and you know it. It was just you, with a dick in your throat, too stupid to actually get better.

Now have some Chie cosplay. You're trash with her, too.

>>376881032
>>376881056

u rite

This should be required viewing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skrcaaBev5A

>>376881620
This isn't really true. Latency plays a huge issue, and with many games, where the average match may take place with someone on the opposite side of the world, the game is not functioning properly. Why do you think serious fighting game tournaments are all played in person? Surely it's easier to for players to play from home. It's because latency is a factor, and that factor is removed for tournament play.

Who should i watch for jack o matches?

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>tfw spend years mastering the game and got into grand final against japan

>>376881861
>where the average match may take place with someone on the opposite side of the world
This isn't really a good example whatsoever

>Elphelt will never rape you to death

why must we suffer

>>376882215

God I hope I never get styled on like that

>>376882215
Most unfortunate burst of all time.

>>376882401
Just play Lostsoul.

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>>376882401

>>376882436
If you play a lot eventually it will happen to you.

At least 1 round, hopefully not at the end of what was probably 6-0

>>376882239
In anime fighters that have cross-country play, it is often the case.

>>376882586
It's not

>>376874228
I really hate this with Xrd, switching to a movie format is boring as all hell.

>>376882576
>11f~23f recovery

Cmon now

>>376882647
Yes, it is.

When I wanted to get into fighting games, something that I really struggled with was finding a way to learn at your own pace. Playing against AI may be good for learning basic controls, but past that point you're going to end up practicing against a dummy to learn combos or playing against a random player who will end up crushing you.

Coming from games like go and chess, something that I loved was that it was much easier to study different parts of the game like openers. Go actually has a thing called a teaching game, where you play with someone more experienced than you, and they basically create situations designed to educate instead of to beat you. These are a godsend, and I played countless teaching games just learning openers and sequences before I played any real serious matches. Unfortunately you won't get the chance to learn from an intelligent opponent in fighting games unless you happen to know one willing to teach you.

>>376880702
She wants the burger.

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ram a cute

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This is a Japanese 23 year old.

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This is a Ramlethal.

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>tfw like Ram but hate her gimmick

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>>376884704
That's a sexy woman

>>376885079
Cute chompers, perfect for eating the burger.

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>tfw every win quote against Baiken is how sad or pathetic her life has become and how she's going on a self-destructing path to kill That man

Anji could've prevented all this

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Jam is best girl.

>>376886394
>Jam is still thirsty for Ky to this day, even towards Sin also

Being Jam is suffering

>>376872886
>bought xrd
I'm glad someone did, everyone I know bought Revelator.

>>376872886
Why can't I post on firefox?

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>>376873016

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>>376886394
Why state the obvious?

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>>376886568
>R mika is older then DOA, she did this kind of shit in 3rd strike

I REFUSE to believe that entire picture is not bait. No one is that stupid.

Right?

>double perfect
I wouldn't say I'm good but this is beyond bad

>>376886175
how will Baiken feel when she discovers that the man she's been hunting for decades is a cute magical anime catboy

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Is REV 2 a good starting point or should I wait for the next revision?

>>376887041
you will never start it so why bother you obese neckbeard? The answer is start asap

>>376883683
Fighting games are an arcade genre.
If you have an arcade, you will meet other players there and they'll be more than willing to help you get into the game, unlike people online.

Or if you happen to be famous...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ArywtMSWXo
... since that iss pretty much exactly what you're talking about.

>>376875936
>>376875093
>>376880668
Wasn't this faggot a tripfaggot here on /v/ at one point?

>>376887375
to shill his gaming streams yes

>>376887375

Sure was and everyone hated him just as much as they hate him now.

>>376882215
Holy fuck, any other instances of people getting instant kills in tournament play? That's fucking awesome.

I know it's late, but is anyone interested in some rev games on pc?
I've been really trying to get better now that P5 isn't taking over my life, and extra motivated this evening.

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>>376888306
I'm not trying to start a console shitposting match, but you should really consider Rev 2 on PS4 if that's what you played P5 on. People really struggle to find somebody who wants to run sets on PC. If that isn't an option you should still play though, there's always at least somebody to play with.

>>376888450
I've considered just getting rev2 for ps4, and I could easily upgrade for pc as well and not be bothered by it, since that's how I play with my brother who doesn't have a next gen console.

I usually don't have too much trouble finding matches at reasonable times, and see the same faces around that could kick my ass, but it's worked alright so far.

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>>376888450
>PS4 - 3f delay online
>PC - 0f delay online
>y-you should play on PS4!

>>376887360
Yeah, unfortunately no arcades or fighting game scene in general anywhere near me.

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>>376888749
I'll take a 3f delay that even Japs find acceptable if it gets me a significantly larger playerbase. At the end of the day, fighting games live and die by their playerbase.

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>>376889030
>I'll take a 3f delay
What a fucking cuck you are. Thank god PC is much more alive in EU.

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>>376889141
Oh, you're on a containment continent, your locals must be thrilling.

>>376889030
pc xturd is still far more populated than tons of fighting games that people play regularly. it's okay to admit you're lazy.

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>>376889379
These numbers are embarrassing my man, I don't understand how you people enjoy fighting the same few dozen players daily. Even fewer are Japanese, the most fun players to learn off of.

guilty gear is the worst fighting game i've ever played

>>376889505
did you play sfv? or any nrs shit?

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>>376889480
I mean, it's nothing amazing, but if you want to shitpost, use accurate data from what's just taken.

>>376889505
You're the worst fighting game I've ever played.

>>376889728
You're not going to match up with all 200 of those players.
Let's say 50 players are in the training mode and aren't online
Considering there's 3 player regions (america, europe and japan) and you can't play with anyone outside of your own without unplayable latency, that leaves you with 50 players
50 is not far from "a few dozen"

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>>376889728
>expecting shitposter to use accurate data

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>Tfw I'm more of a SF fan than a general fighting game fan
>I like SFV
>The meme that it's shit will forever persist long after it's dead
>Capcom fucked themselves with their promise to not release a revised edition

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>>376889728
That's fair, and a playable number, but I still can't wrap my head around choosing the least populated version for the sake of negligible technical improvements. If PC is all you have, I get that, but when you have the choice, it seems like warped priorities.

things are getting a lot better, we got xrd a year later, so it was already dead, revelator 6 monts later, it was half dead, now with rev 2 we are just a couple of days later, lots of poeple are gonna wait to play it on pc insted of console this time. im one of them

>>376879356

Actually these mission put me more off the genre than anything else really. Especially the meaty and reversal timings. Like what the actual fuck, to pull off a reversal felt more like luck than anything else really, the time frame between successfully landing a reversal or meaty is so minisucle, I have no idea how people are expected to relyably pull those off.
In addition, I think the timing for the meaty gives only some idea for that specific move, so you will probably have to figure out the timing for the character and move you actually want to use, and then on top of that you can only hope you press the button at the correct milisecond in a real match. And mind you this is CORE MECHANICS, something that if you can't reliably pull off, you might as well give up on playing against people who actually know what they are doing.

It's just too much.

>>376873016

Because fighting games take a good amount of time to git gud at and be able to analyze what exactly is wrong with the game. Every fightan game has flaws, but you can only really properly criticize it and back up your argument if you actually know what you're talking about.

>>376889959
>sirlin

Kys

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>>376872886 (OP)
>I enjoy fighting games for the gameplay
Obviously not.

>Why do people play these games if you can only enjoy them if you reduce the experience to reflex and muscle memory?
But that's not what's occurred here; you're getting bodied and you don't even know why. Hey, did you ever hear the one about the guy who thought he knew shit, but didn't know shit?

First of all, understand if you're new to fightan it takes about 1000 hours spent in the lab and getting stomped by other players before you even have a fraction of an idea what you're doing.

You get better by playing people better than you, ideally in a local scene, but online works too; get involved on TYM or Shoryuken and ask people to play with you.

Fightan takes time and effort, there's no way around this, and that's probably why most people born after '95 hate the genre. I strongly recommend you read the following

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub

but the long and short of it is this: are you willing to apply yourself, or are you just going to bitch on an anonymous Nepalese throat-singing forum about how people with more skill and dedication are beating you?

If it's the former, congrats, there's few feelings better than when fightan finally "clicks" for you, so you're in for a treat, if it's the later, know that your tears sustain me.

>>376889942
saason 2 is your super street fighter 5, season 3 its ultra street fighter v, and so.the only diference is that there are not stand alone. now you dont have to buy again the same game.

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>>376890048
>deleting your first post just to include a pic and forgot to backspace the extra OP

I agree with everything you said, but cmon man

>>376890013
Many of these missions in fighting games are basically puzzles.They don't have any application besides improving your inputs. No one will actually use those combos in real life because they require way too much setup.

>>376890075
It doesn't matter. I know that by the end the roster will probably be great, the balance will all be evened out, we might even see tweaks for better zoning and more defensive options but if they keep it to updates and never release a new boxed edition then the damage is done in the eyes of casuals and dissenters. Just look at the people who dropped it at launch and are still spouting outdated shit against the game on that impression alone.

>>376890075
so when does the game stop being bad? never?

>>376890229
and who give a fuck about those poeple, im not gonna play against them online, all the poeple that matters already have the game and they are gonna keep playing it till sf6.

>>376890123
It's 5AM fuckit

>tfw none of my friends are into fightan games
>internet is kind of shit, will lag up badly if the netcode is shit (fightcade seems to work well enough though)


Would be nice to get a sparring partner.


If I'm desperate enough, I might bring my PS4 and guilty gear xrd rev 2 to my campus lounge (most guys there play Smash), see if anyone is interested.

>buy GG Xrd Rev for PS4
>want to get used to it with story mode
>Story mode doesn't seem to have fightin'
>save and go to arcade
>Arcade """story""" is subpar
What?

Can someone explain what the fuck is happening?

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OP is a faggot as so are a majority of posters in this thread, like git gud holy shit.

>>376872886
Git gud
That's what all reasonable people would do.

Quick question, will GG Xrd Rev 2 support legacy controls? I would like to use my PS3 arcade stick on my PS4 and I heard it depends on the game whether it supports older fight sticks.

Would like to not have to buy a converter.

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>>376890321
kek fair enough man it's fucking late

>>376872886
>game takes actual skill to get good at and has a high skill ceiling

>therefore its trash

sorry anon there are a lot of great reasons to shit on guilty gear but you didnt pick one of them

>>376889863
jokes on you i'm not even a fighting game
for real though this game sucks. blazblue is shit too fuck you

>>376890013
>so you will probably have to figure out the timing for the character and move you actually want to use, and then on top of that you can only hope you press the button at the correct milisecond in a real match. And mind you this is CORE MECHANICS, something that if you can't reliably pull off, you might as well give up on playing against people who actually know what they are doing.
Welcome to fighting games

>>376874330

You see, this is the problem with the fighting game genre, especially with the "anime" subgenre that is GG or BB. Spacing and combos are equally important.

Of course, pro players will immedately disagree with me, and say spacing is more important, but listen for a moment. New players in a fighting game are in a lose/ lose situation because of this, in other words they are double fucked. New players don't have any idea how to land a hit. Now even if they managed to land a hit, what does it matter, because in GG landing a normal nets you like what 2-3% damage without combo? On the other hand, the pro can convert that hit to 20-30% damage. So even if you do land a hit, it doesn't mean shit because your damage is nonexistent without combo (as opposed to Street Fighter, where people usually trade normals more than combo off every single jab). So new players will see that they get comboed to death, while they can't combo, so of course they will think it's more important than anything. And it's possible that only later do they realize that landing that combo starter hit is a whole new art in itself. So this means you can't just pick a character up and play in 2-3 minutes, you have to spend a few hours getting down combos in addition to gathering information how the gamplan should look like in a real match. Fighting games are complicated with incredibly high skill ceiling, and we live in an age where players want everything immediately, and they are used to the fact that they do actually get everything they want. Even "esport" games cater to this mentality, look at assfaggots games popular today or Overwatch. They do everything they can to reduce skill ceiling so random John won't feel disheartened because some pro rekt him so hard, he would never want to play again. And players actually expect this from games nowadays. Fighting games are not for today's mainstream young people, and it's a miracle that the genre is still alive if you ask me.

>>376874331
>>376873506
I actually played this with /fgg/ earlier. My akihiko is ass but I have forgotten how fun the game was. I might keep playing it more regularly with all 20 people that still play it.

>>376890656
There are still people online in P4U?

I might jump back then for a while.

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>Playing touch of death anime fighters with style-over-substance meme execution
>Le so technicoool XD
There's a spectrum between NRS fighters and this retard shit.

>>376890838
nrs fighters are equally retarded

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>>376890838
Combos are pretty easy though.
Look how early the buttons are being pressed in this combo to buffer in everything.

>>376890946
>nrs fighters are equally retarded
No, NRS are still the worst.

>>376890593
I was able to defeat plenty of players at my local arcade doing basic Slayer/Johnny combos in AC. Since most strong combos come out of a set up then the most important part is being good at neutral, landing a knockdown and outsmart them at the setup. Easy unoptimized combos that deal decent damage and kd the opponent are even easier now thanks to RC slowmo.
The real problem is that neutral has a very different logic compared to SF so most people don't know how to do it properly.

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>>376891091
you're right, NRS is cancer. Meme combos, constant setplay, a block button, and not a single hint of fundamental play.

>>376890838
>Doesn't even know what ToD means
>Uses meme as an argument
Kappashitters are leaking agai.

>>376891395
>Getting tapped into an irreversible combo that does nearly all of your life isn't ToD
I stay away from anime fighters because of this shit.

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>>376891478
GGRev average combo damage is lower than SFV. The meme combos you've seen are labmonster shit requiring specific hitbox characters, counter hit confirm, fully stocked meters, and some funky ass starter. GG combos typically hit for 20% meterless.

t.I play SF more than GG

>>376891478
>I don't know how to burst, help I'm retarded
Also most combos that don't have a CH, setup or spend lots of meter don't even do 40% damage, if you get hit again is because the enemy outsmarted you.
You have so many mechanics to get out of pressure, if you're predictable then the fault is yours and not bad design.

>>376891624
He probably doesn't even play any fighting games.

>>376891478
Well for starters not every game is Hokuto no ken Especially most of the current anime fighters.
Secondly ToD means touch of death. So the only time you get touched and die in these games are pretty much never unless you're playing chipp and you get hit while your guard bar is jacked all the way up or you're playing marvel.

>>376891736
I think BB has a couple honest ToDs too, but each version changes so much I don't know if that's still true or not.

>>376891830
BB had very retarded combos but I stopped playing after CSE so I don't have any idea if they fixed it or anything.

>>376873570
Holy shit your are so fucking pathetic

>>376891830
Yeah but those usually require you to be near death with OD stocked with 100% meter and a fatal counter.
And in most cases at the point where you have 100 meter what every you hit them with is going to kill anyway.

>>376891921
CP made combos shorter and better.
CF removed SMP and made combos more free form. They're a bit longer than CF but still generally shorter than CSE because of the changes to hitstop and general speed of the combos. Except litchi where it still takes her 15+ seconds to do a basic combo

>>376872886
>I enjoy fighting games for the gameplay
You clearly don't because you're complaining about getting bodied because you didn't know how to play.

>>376874009
I haven't played 2.0 yet, but I thought 5C->2C only worked on counter hit.
Or is it just an open block string or something?

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Hey guys, WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE TIME?!

>>376892474
Fuck Danger Time.

>>376892474
kusoge mechanic

>>376878781
Open steam P2P ports. It can help finding any room.

>>376892474
the fuck is that shit, and people say SFV is bad?

>>376892474
My favorite time
https://twitter.com/notBaf0/status/834192151990804480

>>376892694
The most hated mechanic, it almost never happens thankfully.

>>376873806
he means to stop thinking about doing inputs and knowing how fighting games work in general, like spacing, your different attacks for different situations, not how to use them. It's like learning to ride a bike, once you learn you never have to think about keeping balance, or how to mount it, etc.

A good thing you want to do is take your characters entire moveset and only use a handful for different types of situations. That way, you're not fumbling inside your mind trying to remember 30 different inputs.

>>376892694
It's a dumb mechanic that is tied to RNG. Most people try to just ignore it exists though and the rest of the game is fine.

>>376892676
How do I do that? Do I have to mess with my router settings or some shit? I get 0 lobbies no matter when I try to search, and the pinned Steam forum thread about this topic is vague as hell.

>>376887561
Instant kill is a legit option desu. Prevents burst and shit. I remember seeing Dogura instant kill Isamu during the finals of the 3v3 of KSB 2017

>>376892474

>Danger Time is still in Rev 2

just

>>376892790
It's a mechanic that it's sole purpose is to keeps slayer viable.

>>376875997
>A resource is a resource
Back 2 reddit you go

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>>376892835
Ye, you gotta do it from your router's settings. And I cannot really help you there, since the way you can change those setting can vary greatly from ISP to ISP.
But still, the ports you need to open are:
UDP 3478 (Outbound)
UDP 4379 (Outbound)
UDP 4380 (Outbound)
And do it correctly. Like, on my older router, I thought I configured the thingy correctly, but I didn't, resulting in no difference. It was still a pain in the ass to join some friends and I could find no room basically.
The new router I got had some more easy-to-configure settings, and now I can see rooms like pic related right now.

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>tfw always fail at picking a main in anime fighters

That game needs morep layer, i don't know why people keep playing SF5 when Rev is a better fighting game at every aspect
Also i hope people gonna get hype and buy the game after evo

>>376893350
>Need more players
>Game is too hard / anime / obscure.
Pick one, anime fighters will always be niche.

>>376893480
Street fighter is pretty anime.

>>376873016
>>376873050
>why is /v/ so shit at games in general?

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>>376873383
>I just want to play the game, not get good at it

>>376893282
Same here, except it applies to all fighting games. Being an indecisive faggot is no fun.

Are there actually people that play GG on controller? LOL

>>376894084
Yeah but i don't know why some people call air dasher fighting game "anime fighter"

>>376877931

SNK, while they've been updating it pretty frequently, still keep trying to remove some broken mechanics while inadvertently introducing more.

There's a competent fighter there, but there's still a lot to be desired if they're to first match 13, then go for 98 or 02.

>>376894945
Even top 8 EVO had pad players.

every fighting game can be played on controller, you make the difference, not the pad

>>376895726
>Playing charge characters on a pad
Sorry but I like my thumb.

>>376882152
Mike

>>376873337
>hearthstone
>skillbased game

>>376881849
nice set, thx for posting it

>>376893019
Where in 4chan do i learn to git hud if everyone here is trash.

>>376896006
And i like my wrist

>>376894945

Nothing wrong with pad dumb dumb, I play stick but it definitly does not hold you back