Can someone tell me what the problem was with adding her in the

>>376859652
>she is a dark-skinned woman
You mean a nigger? And its because they threw her in there to score diversity points.

>>376859652
she has sexy arms

>>376860963
That's edgy, my redneck anon. Also if the only reason she was added in, then /v/ is mad because they're racist, ok.

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>>376859652
because Rafe was better and deserved more screentime

>>376861182
> the truth is edgy
Blacks also have an average IQ of 85 :^) but that's okay because facts are racist and edgy and that makes them wrong, amirite?

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>>376859652
Friendly reminder.

>>376859652
She was a worse villain than Talbot with her ultra plot armor because nothing bad can happen to a strong black woman.

>>376859652
STRONG BLACK WOMAN DON'T NEED NO MAN MMMHMMMM

>>376861393
ND has some nice choreography and camerawork. That fight scene was great.

>>376859652

She is ugly as FUCK

Why are american women of african descent pig-ugly?

>>376861393
>Drake lifts his fingers up in a submissive position because he doesn't want to hit her back
>He's obviously not taking too much damage from her attacks because she's a fragile woman
This isn't feminist enough.

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>Ayo Holup 'thk Wuchu talkin BOUT! U DON kno ME! I IZ A STRON IdepenINT BLACK WOMYN, CRACKA!

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>>376859652
MARY SUE

One I'd like to fuck too.

>>376859652
Because she's a STRONG INDEPENDENT BLACK WOMAN who can beat 2 extremely buff dudes at once without being hit, and she serves absolutely no purpose in the history

>>376859652
I thought it was funny to get Drake get his shit pushed in. I don't know. I can't get angry at all this dumb bullshit everyone cares about.

>>376859652
I don't care about the nigress, the game is still cinematic garbage for casual shitters and I'm glad i only rented it.

>>376860996
spbp

>>376859652

What funny is that they don't get upset when their little chinese cartoon girls beat up grown ass men but as soon as a black woman does it, they throw a fucking fit.

>>376859652
Drake has single handedly taken on bigger and stronger enemies than her and one, but she beats him up because they needed a strong ethnic woman for whatever reason. The fact that she gets away absolutely scot free doesn't help either.

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>>376861652
>tfw she won't hate fuck you
shit sucks

>>376861727
Drake gets shit on and embarrassed multiple times every game though.

>>376861531
Not really. I think that Drake losing to Nadine would have seemed better if Nadine had won through dexterity and martial arts prowess, but instead she just fights like some super-strong brawler.

Of course, /v/ would still complain about it, but it would still seem more sensible than the fight sequence we got now.

>>376861371
what does that have to do with the video game character

>>376859652
Who got upset?

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The most hilarious thing about /pol/ and other angry neckbeards is that they are too beta to do anything except complain and foam at the mouth. If you guys were dominant and masculine your women wouldn't have ruled over you. Even your precious vidya feel victim to SJW ideologies. White men are the most emasculated, most cucked race. Is it any wonder that European women prefer Arabs and Africans? Prove me wrong.

>>376862006
Read the thread. Just angry /v/irgin sperglords.

>>376862010
I swear to God you faggots know this bait and I pray you don't fall for it.

>>376861393
Is it weird that if it wasn't for the Sarkeesian thing at the end there, I wouldn't be able to tell this is meant to shit on Uncharted?

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>>376862010

>Prove me wrong

Well, I can't prove your wrong about the bulk of what you say but there is the fact that they don't actually have that preference that you claim they do.

You need to refine your bait craft.

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>>376860996
>>376861824
this, could'be been a little more toned, but they're a solid 9/10

>>376859652
>>376861723

Neil "No fun allowed" Druckman said he only made her a black woman for shits and giggles.

Also Drake's height is 5'11 while Nadine's 5'5

Drake's weight is AT LEAST 190 lb, with very little body fat, since he's a guy who constantly drags his own body weight around ledges and shit.

You're not going to tell me that a beast like that is going to get outmuscled by a puny woman

>>376862191
No, that bait is just horribly made. They're trying to market it like "L-LOOK AT HOW WOMAN BEAT MAN. GET MAD!!", except they can't find anything good to portray that. Just ignore poor bait, anon.

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>>376862010
>Is it any wonder that European women prefer Arabs and Africans?

Arabs, yes. Blacks, not really.

But that's a natural feeling, Middle Easterns are the most handsome males.

>>376861953
Yeah I agree. It looks like she mostly won because Drake doesn't fight women. He's cowering the whole fight and flirting with her while a gun is in his face. I would've preferred Drake doing more than just punching the fucking ground.

Nadine's a missed opportunity for a decent female villain imo. Now I guess they want to make her all sympathetic or some shit.

>>376859652
she beats nate after everything he's done in the past 4 games, including fighting dudes twice his size

>>376862240
But if it was some small Asian guy who was a Ninja doing the same, you wouldn't give it a second thought

The point is that Nedine is a good martial artists and that Drake is just a brawler who gives away all his movies

It's still silly tho, don't get me wrong

I loved it when I jumped at her and crashed through the floor

Really pushed the cunts face in

black female is the token character of SJW agenda, two birds with one stone

and they are too scared to write an actual character that is female and black

thats why you couldn't kill the lady who has been sending death squads after you the entire game, SJWs are too afraid to upset their own, so dont ever expect legitimate roles given to black men or women

Nadine's role in the game is to be really goddamn buff and have an army at her disposal. She's an interesting parallel to Elena on Rafe's side. She's the voice of reason while Rafe is wrapped up in his ego.

>>376861971
its a shoehorned in nigger that shouldn't be there

>>376862552
Rafe was so amazing
His voice acting and entire performance was perfect
Loved it

>>376859652
Well, at the time it really wasn't the bad in regards of making unrealistic characters in realistic games and our expectations have been severely lowered over the years, but for this game, the issue was a small lady overpowering a much larger experienced dude (he's been climbing up walls and fighting since he was at least 14) and beating the ever living shit out of him. If her combat style was more leg oriented that's one thing because anyone can fuck up someone with their legs, but Drake's beaten dudes much bigger than him and even he had to throw his entire body into the person to do any damage while she can put him in a choker hold

>>376861371
So on average, they're smarter than you? Got it.

>>376861920
Yeah, and it's funny every time it happens.

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>Spend 3 games killing zombie Spaniards, yeti, and countless private armies
>lose in a fight to a black chick in formal clothes

really stimulates my neurons

I never really understand the "women can't ever beat men" complaint. Male protags beat up bigger and stronger men all the time.

>>376862240
>>376861614
The only thing to counter "keeping things the same for the sake of keeping things the same" is "changing things for the sake of change".

The fact that Nadine is shorter gives her an advantage: Drake needs to be use more force and energy to attack while Nadine, being short and fast, is able to counter at any given moment.

>puny woman
Anon, do you even see her muscles, or are you blinded by your own ignorance. She leads a militia, therefore she needs to be quick and strong to cqc any enemies, and she obviously is able to do that. I think the reason Drake didn't fight back is because she acted "nice" to him, and he doesn't have the will to fight back. Albeit, the "never hit a woman" thing is also a definite factor. That's more of a blow on society than it is the developers.

>>376862739
>Male beat up bigger and stronger men
you autistic or underage

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>>376861371
>IQ
holy fuck, pol-kun.

>>376859652

>Black
>"Woman"

>You fight her

>You play as a fucking white male

How indestructible is she?
Haven't touched the games due to only having a PC, but I can't imagine that you managed to get the upperhand on her.

Bitch must be coated in atleast two walls of PIS and other bull shit.

>>376862513

No I would still think it's stupid but it would have been more plausible since he would have been a man as well and as somebody said it would have been a clear display of skill. Nadine barely does any martial arts shit against Drake, she beats him mostly on brute force

>>376861876
Absolutely different. One is based in unrealism while one stresses the importance of realism. Has nothing to do with skin or gender, but body frame and experience.

>>376862837
Your post doesn't make sense, my faggy friend.

>>376862240
None of the shit Nate pulls is in any way realistic so don't try to use that as any sort of objective measure of how strong he must be.

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>>376861876
>What funny is that they don't get upset when their little chinese cartoon girls beat up grown ass men

Are you talking about high fantasy shit like Sailor Moon where bitches are blowing up galaxies or what?

I mean I got mad as fuck when that shit show Arachnid started giving me THIS kind of shit.

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>A second generation mercenary who has been traveling by jeep all day is able to defeat a retired explorer and a convict with a cigarette addiction who were shipwrecked!

>>376862512
>>376862348
>>376862240
It's a damn video game. Even Drake himself does a lot of unrealistic bullshit. The anon was right when said that you spergs are okay with suspending your disbelief when a loli weilds a swords twice her size but when it comes to a black chick kicking ass it's suddenly unrealistic? Fuck off back to /pol/

>>376862918
dont forget the harrassing wife who nags you throughout half the game
and the part where you raise a girl
and the evil white man bad guy
and every depiction of non-female is corrupt and struggling, and completely beta, even though they've been mass murdering fools for a decade
but hey, if nate struggles and almost dies, and nadine is there to save his ass, what a show!

But I'm dark-skinned and I disliked her too.
Moreso because she's just there to shit on both parties and fuck off at the end of the story with no payoff, no consequences, and little to no impact on the story.
You could probably remove her from the game outright and not change too much about the actual story of the game.

Just because your character is black doesn't mean they're incapable of being poorly-written, even if /pol/ dislikes her for being black.

>>376863154
>and the evil white man bad guy
Oh, so now you don't want realism?

>>376862419
Do blond males not exist? ):
Do I exist?

>>376863151
>Even Drake himself does a lot of unrealistic bullshit.
That only hurts your argument stupid, a guy who regularly survives 40 foot falls and beats the shit out of dozens of guys single handedly including guys 2 to 3 times his size gets his ass beat by Nadine.

>>376863151
a loli wielding a swords twice her size is already unrealistic, it's how the game presents itself

that's a huge difference

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>>376863151
You retard, I was >>376862348 , I was advocating AGAINST the /pol/tards.

>>376862949
Bro, there's nothing realistic about Uncharted. Closer to reality than muh animes, yeah, but that's about it. It's a goddamn action adventure movie, there's nothing realistic in them.

>>376862756

No fuck off dumbass, that's not how it works in real life, in real life there's no balancing mechanic saying that short people are faster, go take a fucking look at the height of the world's fastest people and you'll see there's barely any manlets in it. Shit like this makes me so fucking pissed because it's obvious you've never been in a real fight "lol dude like short people have the advantage of BEING FAST it doesn't matter if they got less strength! silly swollen dudes are super slow!"

fuck off
usain bolt is 6'5 btw

>>376862348
No I mean, it's set up to be "look at superior nippon gameplay folded 1000 times." At least it did to me once I saw the Sarkeesian image. Before that it looked kind of like "Uncharted may not be great or good and the diversity thing triggers people, but look at what /v/ pushes as good from Japan." Two different kinds of dumb looking gameplay.

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>>376862756

>The fact that Nadine is shorter gives her an advantage: Drake needs to be use more force and energy to attack while Nadine, being short and fast, is able to counter at any given moment.

I refuse to believe that anyone is actually this fucking stupid.

>>376863581
Please tell me how acrobatics work in real life, because I sure as fuck don't think it looks like the shit Drake pulls off.

All this thread tells me is that SJWs don't know what the meaning of the word consistency is.

Let me break it down for you:
>Loli wields a sword twice her size and fights another loli wielding a scythe twice her size and is generally pretty evenly matched
Consistent

>Little kid uses magic ninja powers to beat the fuck out of other little kids using magic ninja powers
Consistent

>Man who defeats armies single-handedly, survived falling out of a fucking plane, beats the shit out of guys that could eat him for breakfast, and even in the very game he's in utterly destroys hundreds of trained PMCs gets beaten by a woman who's trained about as well as all the other PMC units literally every time he faces off against her
Inconsistent

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>>376862756

>>376863313
But why wouldn't that be possible? It just shows you Nadine is stronger than Nate. And then you have to fall back on physique again and then you can't explain how Nate is able to pull half the shit he does so in the end you just have to acknowledge the game is not realistic.

>>376862756

Go watch fucking olympic weightlifting, the elite category is literally lifting less than the intermediate male category.

Toned muscles don't mean jackshit, it means she has low body fat. Women have less muscle mass than men, their bones aren't as dense and their lack of testosterone makes them weaker on top of all that

>>376863154
>and the evil white man bad guy

>For Honor has a female antagonist
SJWs!

>Uncharted has a male antagonist
SJWs!

>>376863313
>a guy who regularly survives 40 foot falls and beats the shit out of dozens of guys single handedly including guys 2 to 3 times his size gets his ass beat by Nadine.
So it hurts my argument because in a videogame universe where such a thing is possible it's suddenly farfetched to have a black woman who outclasses him? According to the game established logic it's not unrealistic at all

>>376863421
What's the difference? Please enlighten me. You're just unable to suspend your disbelief because you're racist and sexist. Simple as that.

>>376862918

Every time you fight her alone she manhandles you, and even when you manage to get some solid blows in she still keeps trucking. Even when you fight her 2v1 with Nathan and his brother she still manages to maintain an edge.

>>376861393
I like how nowhere else in the Uncharted series does actually succeeding in a QTE still get your ass beat, wonder why it happens here against this person only.

>>376863814
>It just shows you Nadine is stronger than Nate.
We don't have anything that shows us that besides her kicking his ass actually, and nothing about her backstory would indicate that when Nate has beaten the shit out of plenty of trained PMCs.
see
>>376863790

>>376863421
>a loli wielding a swords twice her size is already unrealistic, it's how the game presents itself
That's circular reasoning. It's unrealistic because you can tell it's unrealistic, so it's okay that it's unrealistic.

>>376863542
Are you kidding? You're comparing animes with talking animals, weapons twice the size of little girls, magical moon powers vs a series that is overly thematic. Yeah, the shit that happens in uncharted is not probable (especially the final boss in uncharted 3, I'll grant you that), but everything is rooted in reality in one way or another and physical being has always mattered.

>>376861393
Cuckcharted 4

>>376863737
That's partially what I was trying to say. Sorry mate.

>>376863854
>So it hurts my argument because in a videogame universe where such a thing is possible it's suddenly farfetched to have a black woman who outclasses him?
When she has no noticeable advantage over the other heavily-trained PMCs that he regularly bodies, yes.
It's pretty clear that she outclasses him mainly because the director wanted to show a strong womyn.

>>376863581
Sprinting and agility are two different things.

>>376861324
Fuck that Stephen Baldwin lookin nigga

>>376863904
>We don't have anything that shows us that besides her kicking his ass actually
Yeah, exactly. It's pretty self-evident, innit. Why are you so in denial about this? If we did have a backstory and that showed her to be a complete pushover, then it'd have been possible to introduce inconsistencies. But as it is all you have to go on is the fact that she beats Nate. Them's the facts.

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>>376859652
She`s just there because ITS IN right now

just deal with it you gigantic bitch

>>376863880
m8 as someone in the thread already pointed out they made her a black woman for shits and giggles. It's completely irrelevant to her role in the story. They just needed someone to kick Nate's ass and it's a black woman by complete luck of the draw.

>>376864117
But we regularly see Drake beat guys that are obviously much stronger than her, who arguably kick his ass much more (though he still overcomes).
Even the fucking prison fight in UC4 do a much better job of this.

>>376864241
>They just needed someone to kick Nate's ass and it's a black woman by complete luck of the draw.
It's a black woman because the director is a Jew that wants to push diversity.

>>376859652
A woman beating up a man that badly, especially a guy like Nathan Drake is unbelievable, especially whenever she shows up you literally cannot defeat her. I think any enemy character like that would annoy the fuck o
If this happened in real life, Nadine would be down for the count with one solid punch.

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>>376861393
yea remind me how much did the other game sell

>>376864269
>But we regularly see Drake beat guys that are obviously much stronger than her
Based on what? The fact that she doesn't look stronger? Nate also didn't look stronger than them.

Also, Nate often relies on intelligence and a lot of luck to get out of sticky situations, not brute strength and especially not technique. Technique is where Nadine has him beat but guess what, Nate got through the encounter alive, again, without needing to be able to beat her in a straight-up fight.

>>376863768
Why the fuck are you talking about acrobatics? You said that "SHORTER PEOPLE ARE FASTER AND MORE AGILE!!!" which is utter bullshit, shorter people are shorter, thats it, there's no inherent benefit to it unless you're counting going through tight spaces as a benefit.

Have you ever seen a boxing match? You do fucking know thats like the entire reason they have weight classes right? look at this video from Myke Tyson's training, look at the speed this fucker had, and he was a massive heavyweight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIiej3l9BXg

now you still believe that shorter lighter people are faster? fuck off

>>376864341
>le jews
It's always the same with you simpletons.

>>376864486
>The fact that she doesn't look stronger? Nate also didn't look stronger than them.
The fact that she physically can't be stronger than a 6'8 guy that weighs 290 lbs.
And Nate wasn't stronger than those guys, that's kind of the point.
>Technique is where Nadine has him beat
Technique doesn't matter, Nate's beaten tons of guys with better technique than him.
The problem is when you create a series where the main character regularly overcomes all odds and seemingly miraculously beats his enemies then shove an antagonist that you can't beat no matter what, that adds nothing to the story, and that fucks off with no payoff right at the climax of the game, that's just shitty writing.

>>376864639
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Druckmann
>Neil Druckmann (born December 5, 1978) is an Israeli-American writer, creative director and programmer for the video game developer Naughty Dog, known for his work in the video games The Last of Us and Uncharted 4: A Thief's End.

>>376861393
All I'm getting from this is that Japan makes pointless fanservicey trash.

>>376864829
They're both fanservice, just for different fanbases.

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>Is only black for diversity brownie points and so Cuckmann can go "look at me I'm so diverse" even though he put 0 thought or effort into her
>Nadine single-handedly beats up Drake, then Drake and Sam at the same time
>Nadine never gets beat-up
>Nadine is never even shown to be "in the wrong" just partnered up with Rafe
>Nadine gets out scot-free in the end
>You never get to fight her and she just teases you the entire game and beats you up over and over and gloats over you
She's the worst character of the 2010's so far. It's like ND actively tried to make players hate her.

>>376864486

>Technique is where Nadine has him beat

Technique doesn't mean a goddamn thing in the face of someone who can easily take your hits and overpower you.

It's like saying Jackie Chan can beat a Gorilla.
Outside of a factory without his love interest watching him that is.

>>376864667
So, what you're saying here is that Nadine's not the problem. The problem is that Nate is written in such a way that he theoretically shouldn't be able to beat.

>>376864241
That really doesn't excuse that this is the only example of what I described happening in any of the games, they knew what they were doing.

>>376864667
>Technique doesn't matter, Nate's beaten tons of guys with better technique than him.
Yeah, because he lucked out, or was stronger, or smarter, or whatever. Not "miraculously". So that's why, when they needed a character to pose a threat, they levelled the playing field a bit. And he still lucked out because she could've killed him a bunch of times.

I mean, that's the thing. Every enemy Nate has faced could have conceivably killed him if just something had gone wrong. That's kinda of like how video games work, isn't it? So don't take it as a given that Nate is just automatically stronger than all of them.

>>376864742
You misunderstand. I'm not interested in your reductionist conspiracy theories.

>>376865064
>conspiracy
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-dev-says-character-diversity-just-as-imp/1100-6441800/
>In a wide-ranging interview with The Frame, Druckmann said it is "absolutely" important that characters in Naughty Dog games are women and people of color
>He added that it wasn't until recently that he realized one of the core pillars of game development, alongside gameplay, graphics, and story, should be diversity.

>>376864936
Yeah, you don't, though.

It's all for purely narrative reasons. You're the one choosing to read more into it because you're looking for reasons to be upset.

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>Nate can fight a literal super-powered Russian soldier with ancient mystical powers one-on-one
>Nate can't fight a black chick with combat experience when he has killed nearly a thousand soldiers with his fists, guns, propane tanks, etc.

>>376865160
Well, he didn't have any guns of propane tanks handy, for starters.

>>376865140
You still don't understand. I don't care about any of this shit.

>>376864559
He was also 5'10" you fucking retard

>>376864486

Women are physically weaker than man, whether you like it or not.

This isn't some /pol/ shit either, this is widely accepted and it's the reason why most sports are divided into male and female categories. Even in equal physical conditions, men get advantage due to bone density and hormones

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>>376861393
I want to use tengu like a tenga.

>>376865345

And 5'10 is small? Thats newsflash to me.

Nadine is 5'5, she doesnt even look more buff than Nate and she's a woman on top of that, so no there's no way she could even barely stop one of Nate's punches or twist his arm like she does

>>376865247
Doesn't change the fact that he's killed hundreds of men with his bare fists.

>>376865418
>Women are physically weaker than man, whether you like it or not.
On average, yeah. Doesn't tell you much about individuals.

Also the fact that Drake can beat up guys stronger than him should tell you that STRENGTH ISN'T THE ONLY DECIDING FACTOR

>>376865510
So has Nadine, probably.

>>376865507
You're arguing that short people aren't faster using a person who's considered short in their profession who is known for being a better fighter because of speed.

I don't disagree that she shouldn't be able to take Nathan down, but that's a poor example.

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>>376859652

Who would win?
Nadine vs Chris Redfield they're both complete in their quick time event plot power ups.

Chris is looking slightly whiter and Nadine has the skin texture of a rock.

>>376865587

No it's not on fucking average, it's a biological difference. If you have a man and a woman together and they both take the same amount of training for the same amount of time and achieve the same results, the man will still be stronger because that's his phisiology.

And of course dumbass nobody is saying that people in uncharted settle fight via arm wrestling, but Nate is not even close to a wimp, he's a VERY strong man and there's a point where strength doesn't do much difference. A hard punch to the temples will knock out john cena just as it will ben stiller.

In cutscenes nadine physically overpowers Nate, that is she wrestles his arms away from her or pins him down on brute force alone, that shit aint real

>>376863132
ahaha oh wow
that's
that's something else

>>376865928
>No it's not on fucking average
Yeah it fucking is.
>If you have a man and a woman together and they both take the same amount of training for the same amount of time and achieve the same results
Which is not what we're looking at right now.

>he's a VERY strong man and there's a point where strength doesn't do much difference.
Right, so it doesn't really matter how much stronger Nate is than Nadine, is what you're saying.

>In cutscenes nadine physically overpowers Nate, that is she wrestles his arms away from her or pins him down on brute force alone
That's because of superior technique.

>>376865143
Can you actually tell me the narrative reason this happens with her and not any other villain?

>>376865709

Here's where your argument is fucking wrong and why you're also probably retarded:

1- yeah short people are not faster for being short .Tyson was fast on his own Merit. Stronger muscles=Muscles capable of moving faster because they can actually support their own weight pretty easily

2- Tyson wasn't considered short by any means, the average heavyweight boxer is 5'10

3- Even if the average heavyweight boxer was 6'6 or something, that wouldn't make Tyson short. If you have a car that goes at 110 mph and I got one that travels at 120 mph, your car is still pretty fucking fast, just that mine is faster

Which also leads to the my next point:

4- There's a threshold that once it gets crossed, difference in strength is meaningless. The car example again: You can see it all the time in races: Car with superior top speeds get beat by cars with inferior top speeds. The difference is simply so small that the extra 10 mph the other vehicle can reach will never be enough to make a difference. The same goes for Drake vs stronger guys/Tyson vs bigger boxers. The guys are already pretty fucking strong/fast so strength isn't already the main factor.

But Nadine is a 5'5 WOMAN, she's a VW golf that can barely reach 60 mph before bursting into flames

>>376866429
Jesus dude, I'm not reading this you psycho

>>376866321
Because she's in the fourth game and they were in the games before that so they're doing something new.

>>376866429
>Car with superior top speeds get beat by cars with inferior top speeds.
>The guys are already pretty fucking strong/fast so strength isn't already the main factor.
So wait, why does this mean Nadine can't win again?

Oh, right
>Nadine is a 5'5 WOMAN
And Nate is an average Joe past his prime but that doesn't stop him from performing superhuman feats.

It's a video game. You should really just relax.

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>>376866204
No its not dumbass because we know the height of both characters and we can give a pretty nice estimate of their weight. An average would only work if you were to take like 10 random men and 10 random women and test their physical strength (which would still most likely end with the men being stronger, even if you don't like it white knight)

>Right, so it doesn't really matter how much stronger Nate is than Nadine, is what you're saying.

No fuckface, go get some reading comprehension.
Nate can beat the stronger gorillas because he himself is already very strong, his strength is already enough to severely injure anyone regardless of his/her build, he's the 110 mph car in the analogy. Nadine is the 60 mph, she hasn't reached the point where she can forego of strength.

>That's because of superior technique.

I trained judo for 6 years and krav maga for 2, that's not fucking technique, I know what technique looks like, she's holding him down on strength alone, she's not making any effective immobilization. Also I can fucking assure you that the "you don't need strength at all, just technique xD!" shit is just a meme told by the dojos to bring in a wider audience. You TOTALLY need to reach a certain strength threshold or you won't be able to perform half of the techniques on anyone. I'm 5'9 and weight 170 lb and I tried a disarm technique on my 6'6 220 lb cousin and I could literally not displace his arm 1 inch. Nadine would be helpless against a man like Nate

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>>376867056

Forget it anon, it's Neogaf Town.

You really think anyone you're talking to has ever been in a serious fight? They're conditioned off movies buddy where the female could overpower atleast twenty men.

>>376867056
hahahahaha holy shit

can you imagine being the level of cringelord required to write out this

She's a shit character

That's it

We don't need to discuss this anymore

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>>376866794

Because Nadine is waaaay below the threshold as that example said she's a 60 mph car while Nate is the one that goes at 110 mph.

>Nate is an average joe past his prime

Nate is definitely not an average joe past his prime. You can clearly see in game he is ripped as fuck, and he can constantly pull himself from ledges in record time, which is extremely physically demanding That's not to mention Nate is also an experienced fighter.

Now add Sam to the equation who also looks like a pretty big guy (for you) and it's completely outrageous that Nadine can take on both and go away completely unharmed

>>376867285
Has nothing to do with that. Just chill out is all we're saying. You don't have to defend yourself so much when the basic argument here is that it's a video game.

Ya'll keep posting essays to something you can't really argue against

>>376867468
Op asked why people didn't like Nadine.

One of the reasons people didn't like her is that she was seemingly unbeatable despite being at a severe physical disadvantage when compared to the other characters.
Your counter argument might be "its just a video game xD!" that doesn't mean it's not a terribly written character

>>376867595
Not my argument. You can't apply real world knowledge to this no matter how hard you try because it's a video game.

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>>376867468

I'm not even engaged in that argument, i'm just telling him he's wasting his time because he's talking to a wall.

Anyone who honest to god believes a 5'5 woman could over power a muscle bound 5'11 man is not worth talking to, and their argument was one of the boundaries of said occurring in reality, which it isn't.

Saying "it's just a vidya game bro!" is just a cop out at that point of the argument.

>>376867656
It's a video game that prides itself on being realistic (Druckmann's own words, that's why he didn't include supernatural stuff, he said he wanted a realistic story with realistic characters)

The "its a video game" excuse is simply very, very lame, it's a bad way to cover your ass to excuse a character being terribly written just because they needed diversity

>>376867656
No, but you don't understand.

Men strong, woman weak and dumb, I am not an insecure little bitch, fucking pandering sjw feminazi bullshit - here is a few paragraphs why

lmfao

>>376859652
The problem is she's Tumblr's fantasy: a "PoC" woman who beats the living shit out of a cis white male. She even does it in his own game.
The average person who browses /v/ and plays vidya in the west is a white male. The trend of adding characters to modern games that are explicit "fuck you"s to white men is obviously going to piss them off. It's no different than someone adding a white character who beats the hell out of black people and calls them niggers to a game, show, whatever aimed at a primarily black audience and then asking why they don't like him.
No one honestly doesn't understand why this character pissed so many people off. Pissing people off was the entire purpose of her creation.

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>>376867836

>>376859652
No idea, avoided playing the game because of her character.

>future developers take note of how I flippantly ignored a game because of something superficial.
>design your game to be bought, not debated.

>>376862756
Bruce Lee made the comment in one of his books that if he ever fought Mahammad Ali he said "he would probably kill me" in a fight.

If someone like Bruce Lee and all of his martial prowess understands the advantage of height and body weight to the point that it's a decisive factor, then nobody else can say shit about it.

In a real scenario, no matter how "muscular" or "fast" she is, Drake would probably be able to clock her once and hold her down until she stopped fighting. Also, size doesn't really mean shit for speed. Mahammad Ali is another example. Dude was huge and LIGHTNING fast.

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>>376864923
I think this is the bigger part. That the writing is bad. People point that out but shitters on both sides latch onto the black womyn stronk part of it and not so much the shitty writing of it part. The once the writing is brought it, its still focused on the black womyn stronk part. Would you defend the scenes if it was some random guy that beats the shit out of drake on multiple occasions that you never get to beat the shit out of yourself?

>If yes, kys immediately
>If no, kys immediately

>>376859652
/v/ doesn't like it if video game girls do the same things as video game dudes

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>>376859652
Don't really care what gender/race a character is as long as they are well written aren't made to literally push an agenda the writer has, as was the case with Nadine.
You can't explain how she was able to hold her own against two very physically fit dudes who are used to fighting. Shit was retarded.

I can't wait for the upcoming spinoff to be nothing but "gurl power xd".

Bigger issue is that there's no real payoff or resolution with her. She pretty much exists just to beat your ass and show how awesome she is, then leave with no real consequence. Isn't she the only antagonist that just gets to walk away? And even after that, she comes back as a protagonist in DLC.

>>376867795
http://uncharted.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Supernatural_Creatures

>>376861371
>Blacks also have an average IQ of 85
Preach it brother

>>376862756
>The fact that Nadine is shorter gives her an advantage: Drake needs to be use more force and energy to attack while Nadine, being short and fast, is able to counter at any given moment.
This isn't how fighting outside cartoons works.

>>376868424

People were alright with Tomb Raider.

Lara was pretty cute and could take horse cock like nobodies business. Plenty of other examples but you can guess.

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>>376859652
she looks like an ape, they could have at least tried to make her attractive just paint a white women black and give her nappy hair.

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>>376868424

>>376868545
Video games needs more real fighting.

more flailing around, snot and characters physically shitting themselves.

ie. real fighting isn't financially sound to portray and would go completely against the feminism thing. Women can't fight for real.

>>376859652
No it's because Nathan has beaten up hundreds of trained mercenaries and so.a even genetically modified ones.
I forgave the first fight, she's young, Nathan is aging. I get it. It was a stretch to have her throw him around like a rag doll. But whatever. Vidya gaems
But when she beats up you and your brother. No. That is by far too much. I'm all for making the playerfeel helpless, but it needs to be justified. It needs to be an insurmountable force. Not
>lel we stronk independont blak wumyn noa u mad wite bois

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>>376867812

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>/pol/ screams forever about how whites are supreme and women are inanimate objects
>Expects anyone to ever take them seriously

>>376860963
PIGSKIN

>>376862756
Dex fags ACTUALLY believe this

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>>376869049
The only thing pol will agree on is that jews should be killed but not everyone there thinks whites are supreme, look at any pol meeting and majority of the people are non whites

>>376869049
I miss 4chan when it hated everyone and didn't take political sides.

>>376869307
They want to be white, that's why those third worlders try so hard.

>>376869341

What 4chan are you talking about.

I remember being on here in 06 and people were screeching about niggers and kikes all the same.

>>376869521
Right, that's why I said when 4chan hated everyone. Now you can't say shit about Republicans or else you'll trigger every fat Southerner wearing their camo hat and combat boots. We used to fuck with Ghost all the time but now people unironically like him.

>>376868489
Ehhh that was kind of his point m8. Druckman had never written an Uncharted game before. On the first one he wrote, he removed all supernatural stuff and even mocked the player about expecting something supernatural. Druckmann wanted UC4 to be grounded in reality so he removed all of that

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Because it didn't let us do this.

>>376869521
Back then it was yelling nigger for the hell of it, it was fun, we were all fucking around.

Shit's all serious nowadays, it's like we got actual Klansmen organizing here now. It's fucked up.

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>>376869307
cleaned my pc and lost the images I had saved of the pol meetings but I found this one, kinda wish I had the one that showed the qt trap's body more

>>376859652
All of the uncharted games are shit anyways

>>376869841

>Back then it was yelling nigger for the hell of it, it was fun, we were all fucking around.

Ohh you're baiting.
Alright, fuck off.

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>>376869762
He also removed Doughnut Drake.

So yeah, fuck him.

>>376870052
You weren't there then, I bet. Sounds like you're one of the Stormfront immigrants.

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>>376869762

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Nadine a shit, but at least Chloe's greatest asset is back.

>>376869686
It goes both ways faggot, 4chan itself has never and will never be uniform in any opinion simply because there are no repercussions for any opinions on this site.

>>376870191
That is one stellar ass.

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>>376870191

I've never played the games, but from what I've gathered is that people don't like her because Drake is supposed to be stronger than the average joe as to why he is able to win all his fights throughout his games, but for some reason he's always getting his ass beat by this chick and or just escapes from her even though he's taken down guys much bigger than both him and her
Is there anything else?

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>>376869889
Here you go

>>376859652
Because she's a STRONG INDEPENDENT BLACK WOMAN and was entirely thrown in for the sake of pandering.

>>376870343
She is also the only antagonist who gets off with no comeuppance whatsoever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6b79OQk9B8

Explains it all

>>376870392
>Xbox controller
Of course.

>>376870191
>jewish girls on /tv/
>big tits
>jewish girls on /v/
>big butts
really makes you think

>>376864475
Disregard how the other game was never released in America because of fear of sjw backlash.

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>>376870191
that's disgusting, this is how a real butt looks like

>>376870203
See I disagree because there is a represented culture here that is standardized among all boards and it's not uniform, but there's recent popular opinions that you can't say shit about without being bombarded by buzzwords.

White people are going to be erased from the world before any other race because they're physically inferior.

Trump is a retard and the people who voted for him would be willing to lick his taint if presented with the opportunity.

Jews are where they are in society because they're generally a more intelligent religion.

White Males are inferior to black males in the eyes of the modern woman

>>376865782
Chris punches rocks for breakfast

>>376867350
I'd ask the same of the person he's arguing with.

>>376870392
So is that thing on the right a woman or a man?
Experience has taught me to never trust feminine-looking things related to 4chan.

>>376870745
Yes, if you say stupid shit you get called stupid

>>376871613
How's it stupid you angry white cuck

Do people just forget this is the first time Drake fought against a trained martial artist? Every other guy get hand fought were just regular average hoes or big unskilled brutes. He never fought soneobe like that. He fought Lazaravic with guns and tree bombs, and I believe he fought that roofie guy hand to hand, but still needed help to win at the end. I haven't played the vita game so I don't know if he fought anyobe else hand to hand.

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So what will Naughty Dog do when Lost Legacy fucking bombs? There's no Nathan because "Nathan doesn't need to be in an uncharted game"

>>376871909
Move on to a new IP

>>376871909
He doesn't, Nathan isn't really a compelling character at all. He's your average cool movie protagonist. At least Chloe will rake in the Uncharted 2 fans bucks.

>>376871650
Real life isn't like cuck porn anon. Maybe its time to loosen up that chastity belt and stop behaving like a nigger with a inferiority complex.

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>>376871539
its a "girl" but that shouldn't stop you from fapping to it, it didn't stop me

>>376871909
Isn't it just dlc?

>>376870607
Shes half indian apparently

>>376872153
So It's actually a fucking trap, on /pol/?
You just made my day.

shes literally a strong independant woman of colour who dont need no man
>beats you up
why would anybody want this

>>376861953
has any game done this?
i would love to see this

>>376869830
How was this done

>>376862857
Yeah IQ is just a meme, right? That's bad science!

>>376872128
Nice. Its even more hilarious that I was actually sticking to the topic of the thread with my first post.
>>376860963
The real reason /v/ is complaining about /pol/ is because /v/ are mostly faggy tranny supporting cucks now after neo/v/ took over. People used to make fun of niggers all the time, but now leddit is here and any time someone says 'nigger' some faggot freaks out about it, which in turn makes /pol/acks want to shitpost

>>376872237
It's a spin-off

With a big AAA budget and everything.

Christ, they're even calling it a "stand-alone" game, so to call it DLC also would be retarded

I hate the shes the only minor bad guy you don't kill.

>>376862857
>>376872128
Also, I'm willing to bet none of you were here before cawwadooty/halo/eceleb threads became the norm.

>>376872852
please come back when you're 18

>>376873261
Excellent rebuttal to my post, thank you for proving my point.

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>>376871909
>He thinks an uncharted game will bomb just because it has women in it

we've gotten past this shit

>>376872723
If you held square before getting in the cutscene where she pops up, you would trigger it.
They patched it out tho, since it would mean you'd be stuck there.

>>376864053
Nah he was Topher + Tobey Maguire tweaked a bit

>>376870625
no they can release it anytime if they wanted to what the fuck are the sjw going to do

>>376859652
I don't think there was anything wrong with Nadine.

I figure she was a kid who was trained from a young age by fucking SAS recruited by her father as mercenaries, so she knew what the fuck she was doing.

>>376872967
That means it's a whole lot less predictable

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>>376870056
How much does that fuckin suit cost

There's 3 grand down the drain

Because people probably never played the other games in the series which all had some retarded unga bunga women and they think that only men in video games can be retarded unga bunga characters.

>>376873261
People born in 1999 can now post.

>>376873114
They're Reddfugees. Mock them and move on.

>>376872852
not saying blacks aren't fucking dumber, but IQ is bad science.. kinda, not as an intelligence test, but as proof that you can't improve your intelligence.

The bullshit about "cultural barriers" is commie gobbledygook, but the fact of the matter is that you can in fact study for the IQ test, that you can become better at it (by about an average of 20 points if you score 100, more if you scored below, and less if you scored above).

Unless you are a deterministic cuck, you should be able to read numerous studies on why the IQ test doesn't determine hard intellect, and frankly you shouldn't even need studies to figure that shit out. If you teach logical principles to people, then you make them take a test that, at least partially tests logical capability, they are going to do better at it.

If we want a test that operates on a stable intelligence quotient, we would need to figure out exactly what is and isn't effected by learning and conditioning before we test it. The IQ test has a shit ton of variability dependent on "studying".

intelligence principles that are hard to train (outside of childhood):
>Spacial awareness
>Unconscious Mathematics (variability in teaching shortcuts/conscious techniques. See "new math" and the way Asian schools teach math)
>Empathic ability (hurrr emotional intelligence, calm down /pol/kun, what scientists are actually talking about here is reading tone of voice and facial expression)
>Linguistic Capability (As of yet anyway, there is enough variability to suggest that we just haven't figured out how to teach it correctly)

>>376873938
>says the person who enjoys visiting the most Reddit-infested board on 4chan

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>>376874018
So it feels just like home to you, eh?

>>376874087
You're replying to the wrong person, dude. I think you meant to reply to >>376873938

>>376859652
pointless addition that added nothing to the plot. invincible for plot/progressive reasons.

>>376874135
>Redditor being this salty.

>>376861324
>rafe was better
>his entire motive was "I'M JEALOUS !!!!"
>deserved more screentime

Sure, he did need more screentime. Both him and the girl virtually had none desu.

>>376859652
Isn't Nathan pretty old at that point? She basically beat up a 50 year old man, whoa.

>>376873379
I think it will bomb compared to previous games because the only thing they're trying to pass off as "appealing" is that the main characters are women.

I like Chloe, and most other do. But nobody likes Nadine, and that's where they fucked up.

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>>376873434
I'm guessing you originally could beat her, but Cuckmann said that was a no-no?

>>376870178
Notice how it says co writer though

>>376870191
She looks fat

>>376867995
I've seen this shit too many fucking times, it's usually just some skinny manlet trying to feel better about himself. "Oh wow, I may be in a severe disadvantage for physical defense, b-but at least I'm fast because I'm small and skinny! r-right guys? Thats what video games taught me!"

They've never been in a real fight and don't understand that huge muscular guys can also be fast as fuck, and are usually fast as fuck.

>>376874014
>you should be able to read numerous studies on why the IQ test doesn't determine hard intellect
The problem is that those types of studies usually echo. As soon as the IQ discussion shifts to Asians, Jews, or liberals, then the media jerks themselves off about how intelligent they are and how objective the test is.

I'm not claiming that the IQ test is 100% objective either, but its the most effective test that we currently have. Aside from Japan, I don't really see anyone taking the IQ test multiple times to study and up their score. The high school I went to offered tests for free, for example, and everyone that took it only took it once.

they made her an untouchable nigress to win some brownie points from video game journalists.

in the game, she's a boring 1-dimensional she-hulk who gets away with beating up the player. the digital equivalent of affirmative action.

"Come on, anon - let's the negro be in the game so she can feel included."

>>376859652
It's mostly that she just doesn't add anything to the game. Her inclusion is totally unnecessary, she has no real character building, and her only gameplay interactions are frustrating, unwinnable fights. She's a masterclass on what not to put in a game.

Rafe on the other hand was great, and probably could have used even more screentime.