So since honeymoon for this game is over, and people start to

It's a great game.

Also persona 5 is shit.

It was a good game but overrated

Kill yourself

>>376823486
It's a medium defining game though.

Nah it's fantastic you're just mad cause it confused you and made you feel like the simpleton you are.

>>376823486
>Honeymoon
>If i don't like it it means no one does
Take your head out your ass and fuck off

I want tumblr to leave

It's a good game but there are pretty major issues with pacing (eg: almost all of route B) and the hacking minigame is shit, as all hacking minigames tend to be.

It has a lot of bland and boring parts, and the combat is only good if you choose to engage with it, which the game isn't difficult enough to really make you do that, but the story and OST pull through.

I didn't play it yet, but it looks like a 7.5 to me. I'm usually right about these things too.

>>376823624

How so?

>>376823486
The game's delivery was artful. If you're a fan of Japanese storytelling, this is a must play. The themes might not be new to everyone but from start to finish, this game was carefully crafted to deliver them with perfection.

That's just my opinion but I consider it one of the best games ever made.

It's just mediocre and that's it. Not shit but not that great.

it's alright
i liked it

>>376823486
>people like it so it must be bad
You are the scum of the earth. No, really.

>>376823926
I agree anon. Its use of the medium is unsurpassed

>>376824132
I'd say its mostly mediocre, a bit shitty, with one or two genuinely great moments

>>376823486
It was good, not for everyone but it hit the right stride for me

>>376823812
>durr it records you messing around with the settings and also you can die to a fish and also you shoot the credits to defeat nihilism and 2B is muh waifu

>>376823486
Literally the greatest game of all time. Combat is shallow for platinum standards, but the rest more than makes up for it. Never been so hyped for a game and then had my expectations blown out of the water.

It has some tedious bits but basically this is a game that delivers an extremely interesting story and world, and gives you fluid and responsive characters to explore and fight your way through it. It's like a Final Fantasy game where you actually want to battle. It offers you freedom to play how you want and go where you want, but has a story you actually want to play, unlike many other modern sandbox games.

Few games combine the gameplay, atmosphere and story properly and usually leave one of these areas lacking, but NieR apart from a couple annoying parts was an exceptional game.

I'd give it an 8.5 or 9 out of 10. The characters outfits turn a lot of people away from the game, a couple parts were not fun to play, and 9S combat isn't as fun as 2Bs. Otherwise an extremely good game and a breath of fresh air compared to the slog of multiplayer FPS that is all anyone plays anymore.

>>376823486
Why don't you fuckers just openly admit that you hate video games and move onto to do other things besides wasting your lives on a video game board?

It's a pretty amazing game anon. Its definitely GOTY, or even GOTD. Given the competition is zelda physics engine beta test and Purse Owner which is pretty decent but not as good, its definitely the best.

Quests and combat are mostly mediocre. Though the production values still feel solid.

>>376825112

Why don't you stop spamming shitty threads about your waifu game on /v/ and go do it on /vg/ or reddit where you belong?

>>376825410
Its one of the good games to come out in 2017 so far. Most of the good games in 2017 were all Japanese games.

>>376823486
Yup, if this were a western game the cancer would be more obvious and it'd be seen in the same light as undertale here.

>>376823486
>>376823583
What is a good game, in your opinion?

Genuinely curious?

>>376823545
>>376823619
>>376823624
>>376823668
newfag casuals

>>376824358
same with undertale!

>>376825828
You're tempting me to buy undertale, here.

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>>376823486
Make that any Yoko Taro game op. There isn't a single thing drawing more cancer to this board right now than his games.

>>376825901
you'd love it.

>>376825947
I take it you haven't gone to any switch threads?

>>376826023
Then I'll pick it up after I finish Persona 5.

>>376826031
Console war kids are a different type of retarded.

>>376826079
Just remember to keep yourself on /vg/.

>>376826104
>"There isn't a single thing drawing more cancer to this board right now."
>Mention the switch
>"Console war kids are a different type of retarded."
So your opinion was disproven less than a minute after you stated it?

>>376823486
it's time to put an end to the taro meme here.

>>376825690
Horizon: Zero Dawn. A better game with a much realistic look. Gameplay is spectacular and is a lot better than any of these weeb games. Also more original because the animals are all robots, which is a lot cooler than a human(robot)

Second place is Mass Effect: Andromeda. Though not good (nor bad), its one of the best shooters right now of this year and more lovable characters.

I don't get why nier: automata is a popular game, its pretty shit.

>>376824724
Either make a coherent point or fuck off with your shitposting.

>>376826290
either way they're both clear cancer, and both need chemo. it's easier to tackle this ironic weeb meme though

>>376826363
But I've played that game. It was ok if you ignored the story. Not as good as Automata, BotW, or P5.

>>376826363
Too memey for anyone to take you serious, maybe if you only had one of those and you might just look like a retard.
>>376823486
Best game so far in 2017 along with P5

>>376826418
Well it's not like he's wrong, you didn't explain yourself anyways retard.

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>>376823486
Weird that these threads started creeping up once the game got mainstream-recognition.
But that´s the /v/-cycle
>game comes out that /v/ expects to get under-appreciated
>threads praising the game popping up, some constructive criticsm, few shitposters
>some people might talk about how the previous games were better
>games becomes popular,sells well
>"Can we all agree this is shit and overrated?"

>>376826363
do you just find 2 mediocre games good just for the sake of being contrarian?

>>376823486
can you kill yourself you piece of shit

it's unfortunate that mods on /v/ are this incompetent a

Is it worth 60 euroshekels? Does it have platinium feel to it?

>>376826627
Maybe because no one bothered to complain when the game wasn't being shoved into every thread, you brainless faggot.

>>376826710
>literally calling on the mods
back to tumblr.

Many people are so unhappy with their lives that they'll never find enjoyment in anything, and absolutely hate that other people are finding enjoyment in their lives

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why taro why the fuck you have to release that fucking concert and ruin ending e?

>>376826784
Pretty much this. When it was a niche series, it would be mentioned by one fag in a thread, or it would get a thread with barely any replies.

People wrongly conflate popularity into the equation as the source, whereas it's just a byproduct.

>>376823486

>So since honeymoon for this game is over, and people start to look at this game critically

That's not what's happened.

What's happened is that absolute and total retards like yourself started playing it because it got popular enough that even the most uncultured Overwatch cumguzzler heard of it. And of course, your kind lacks the mental capacity to understand it.

People with actual taste and intellect played it and loved it when it came out.

>>376826784
Lol, you are the same guy who gets super-defensive and insulting every time someone points that out, right?

The game was shoved in everyone´s faces months ago, there are a lot less threads these days.

>>376826884
And you are even worst you hotpockt inbred

>>376826951
Hit me up. What happened in the concert?

>>376826905
whoa bro...

>>376826972
>And of course, your kind lacks the mental capacity to understand it.
BECAUSE A MACHINE NAMED ENGELS AS A FACTORY IS SO FUCKING DEEP
LMAOOOO

Alright /v/ I'm in route C and this is the first game I can't tell if I'm playing it because I love it or I just want to finish it. Why are all the faggot robots 10 levels ahead of me? I have been doing sidequests and shit. Also I hate playing as 9s. He is the cancer of this game.

>>376826972
Yeah the game is so deep it's pretty much incapable to fully understand it it is so deep

>>376827145

>Actually thinking the name drops of random thinkers is what's deep about this game

This shows how retarded you are and invalidates any opinion of yours.

>>376827260
THERE
IS
NOTHING
DEEP
ABOUT
THIS
GAME

If you legitimately think this shit is deep, boi you must think kojima is god.

>>376827260
Dude what if robots are people, lmao!

>>376827423
>lmao
>>>/reddit/

>>376826784
>this game get's talked about to much
>therefore we should make 20 threads a day calling it shit so that people talk about it even more

>>376825564
>he says while making a thread dedicated to shitting on the game that's being spammed

>>376827512
Nice argument my duderino lmaoerino

>>376826972
I'm a japanese enthusiatic fag and I think this game really was unbalanced in my first playthrough while playing it in hardmode

The gameplay didnt bring anything new to the table really. 9S had the potential to be the most interesting but the mini games and subjugations wear off pretty quick. They had a great chance to make route C more interesting gameplay wise with A2 but she had the same ol 2b's combat style and components but with longer dashes taunts and a berserker mode.

The content of the game really was repetitive in the next routes while they throwing the end games environments like the tower and tower keys in the same places and not in entirely different place. Also I find pretty lacking while 2b land in flooded city instead of somewhere entirely random which only shows the lackness of the content. hans more points like this can be heard which it show shows this game wasn't polished so good.

For me the experience was ok on the first part of the gamw. The sound and the music was really great and I really enjoyed the story the depute the flaws people think it has.

Also I hope for taro to make his next project to be even greater next time ::)

Also I really liked A2 maybe because I'm autistic myself

Also OP is really insufferable little shit

>>376827260
>>376827260
You've offered nothing to prove how deep this game is, you're just a posturing retard.

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>>376823486
It's still my GOTY

>>376827117
you can take me as lie because is not 100% confirm there are still concert and translation is a little off but basically a guy zeni i believe is the one who create all the project yorha but a unit name number 9 is the one that change yorha to the state that we now and what happend is aparently they never be able to find a2 so she can be activated 2b wakes up tries to activate 9s just before he was going to awake she try to hack him he sense that someone is trying to do it so he decide to not awake and tell the perosn in case it was 2b that he preffer to never awake insted of losing these memories even if he awake he wouldnt lose those memories so 2b cryes and the pods says well it look like we dont break the cycle as i said not 100% we have to wait for clemps make the analysis because taro is releasing a lot of lore of automata

>>376827665
that's a really cool and niche game to have as your GOTY. I'm impressed.

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>>376826972
The "You just don't get it" argument
Ah, used by so many, most recent i could think of is Undermeme.

The PC port is hot garbage and I really hate that it is in such a state.

>>376827592
Not an argument.
>>>/reddit/

The first game is so much better its not even funny. (With story, gameplay in both is meh tier)

Automata is overrated by newfags who didnt play the other games.

>>376827802
Maybe you should try not using a buggy pirated release.

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It was supposed to be PlatinumGames + someone who writes stories people seem to like => godly combination.

>braindead, boring boss fights
>edgy weabshit story

I could've done without playing it. I got faps out of it, I guess.

>>376827690
muh side lore, autism. when destiny pulled this shit everyone hated it.

>>376827771
>he says that while posting Shitsona 5
Top kek.

>>376827887
First game was literal trash desu

>>376823486
More importantly, can we once again acknowledge that OP is and will always be a faggot?

>>376827887
I know it's a meme to say this now so you seem above automata fans, but that game is garbage too.

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>Idiots think Automata is "pushing the medium forward" with that shitty game design

Proof that storyfags need to gtfo of games and read actual books

>>376828075
did you read about the op is a faggot meme on r/4chan?

>>376826951
>Ruin the ending
Wut? Explain.

>>376827335
>>376827423
>>376827631
>>376827771

We aren't obliged to spoonfeed literal retards. Dozens of articles have been written by reputable journalists and writers on the thematic depth of this game, the volume of which hasn't been seen in relation to a video game since precisely Undertale.

It's no surprise that the same absolute shit-eaters who disliked Undertale are the ones currently shitposting about Nier Automata.

Yes, both of those games really are, 100% unironically, "2deep4u".

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>>376827690
That's the most idiotic writing I've ever seen. Not talking about the content, because there's no way I'd be able to even form an opinion of it from your post.

Learn some fucking punctuation. Some fucking sentence structure. Capitalization. The fuck are you even trying to say? Literally what did he mean by this?

I'm so fucking mad I attempted to read half of that. Fucking dumb ass weab.

>>376828203
These people clearly only play meme games and watch the shittiest of anime as they believe Taro has tapped some fountain of originality. They won't read a book.

>cribnote basic existentialism and now kids think your shit is deep

How did he do it?

>>376828203
>frogposter
>autism
Like clockwork

>>376828329
>unironically reading books
>participating in the most meme autism hobby
Sad!

>>376828353
steal shit from other people and people who have never read other people's shit will have that reaction

>>376828253
>>376828231
>>376827904
as i say this is not confimr 100% and maybe im wrong here you just have to wait to someone confirm this

>>376828203

The retardation in this post is palpable. Story has NOTHING to do with why smart people say this game is pushing the medium forward. It pushes the medium forward by doing innovative things that couldn't possibly be done in any other medium, that's the fucking point. Fucking retard.

>>376828203
>storyfags
They are Taro's game target customer, anon.

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Primary forms of response from Taro dicksuckers in reaction to their favorite madman meme being criticized.

1. You don't get it! (no further explanation)
2. Alright, it's not deep, but when the anime character died I felt really sad.
3. It cannot been expressed how full of depth his games are, as the game's scenarios are presented in such a way that the viewer can take literally ANY interpretation from them, gaining an infinite amount of knowledge.
4. You have to read the translated stage play to understand the true depth these games. No, I'm not going to give you a link. (but when a western studio like Bungie does this with Destiny it's trash)

The fanbase is a contrived meme.

>>376828235
So you clearly can't regurgitate a single deep thing yourself, what a joke.

>>376828640
>he was fooled by the pushing the medium forward meme

>>376828253
WHAT A BIG PUFFY VULVA!

>>376825947
this

I went into the demo not knowing what to expect and what a piece of trash it was. Gameplay is beyond stale and the story line looks like something an edgy 14 year old wrote.

I really don't know why anyone would even bother pirating it honestly.

>>376823486
Story is decent enough
Combat is good and has nice mechanics.
8/10

Game of the decade this far.

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>>376828640
Yet it still a bad game.

Heres titles that actually did something

>Doom
>Quake
>Metal Gear Solid
>Thief
>Resident Evil 4
>Halo

These are games that defined entire fucking eras of games with fresh and engaging game design, all Automata has going for it is a meh story thats only impressive to people who dont read.

>storyfags thinking they know anything about "the medium"

>>376828946
>FPS trash
Lol
Kys yourself, cuck.

>>376828930
play more games

>>376828930
You mean Ass of the Decade.

The game is mediocre.

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>>376828679
You don't see such thought out posts on /v/ anymore, and you're entirely right, too.

>>376828679
lol this shit has happened in this thread

>>376826193
I don't have a 4chan pass so I can't go on /vg/

>Everyone who plays this game love it to death.
>Everyone else hate it because it's too loved whose only arguement is "le pretentious weebshit"

Oh /v/, you're such a shit board. /lit/, /mu/, /tv/ and /g/ are the only good boards on here.

>>376828679
>>376829208
Samefag.

>>376828235
>Yes, both of those games really are, 100% unironically, "2deep4u".


you fucks say the same shit for MGS2

>>376829301
>/mu/
outed yourself
>>376829309
wrong

>>376829309
nah

>>376828235
I knew this game coming to PC was a mistake due to pricks like you claiming to be "fans"

>>376823486
I just started playing it and I don't know what people like about it so much. Combat is pretty simple and every quest is the most simple quest everyone hates.

>>376829301

I played and hated it. What now fag?

>>376826951
>>376827117
>>376827690
Guys, it was a fake script. Taro seemingly played you like a fiddle.

>>376823808
>I didn't play it but...
Why would anyone care what you think if you haven't played it?

>>376829331
MGS2 has actual depth to it and pushes the medium forward in a way Nier automata desperately tries to repeat for the uninitiated

>>376829331
MGS2 was actually a good game. Automata is a mediocre ARPG with good ideas that are not developed upon

>>376829445
Every good product is underappreciated by some retard.

>>376829301
Such intelligent boards choices...

>>376829471
>>376829475
Lel I kno rite xD
Based Kojambles is sooo deeeep man......

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>>376829471
>MGS2 has actual depth

>>376829475
>MGS2 was actually a good game.

>>376828946
>shooters and stealth games are the only genres that exist

>>376829489
There's no reason the inverse isn't true and you'd be said retard.

>>376829301
/lit/ here

If you think Automata is "our game" you're sadly mistaken

nomedropping western philosophers witout understanding them is cool

>>376829556
>>376829584
I know Kojima isn't the board Jap meme dev anymore, but try not to act so ignorant.

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>>376828235
>black and white morality, message being "be nice to people"
2deep4u

>>376829602
FF7, Vagrant Story, Penumbra, Souls

All of them doing more for their genres than Automata ever dreamed of

>>376829616
If you think you represent /lit/, you're sadly mistaken

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>>376829758
go get your taste from some /mu/ chart faggot

>>376829701
All shit games, sorry but you have shit taste, senpai.

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>>376829301
> /mu/
(you)

>>376829674
I played MGS2 and:
1. It was bad
2. It was not deep

>>376829816
Well look at that, someone is angry

>>376829690
too deep for him, certainly, guys an obvious retard who retreated the thread when asked for his own take on the game.

>>376828679
>>376829208
you both insufferable little shits you know

Automata will win the Pseud's Choice Awards but its not going to be GOTY

>>376829867
This, MGS 2 is the worst MGS game even worse than PW

>>376829867
Then I sincerely hope you aren't also the type praising Nier Automata right now because you'd be pure cancer.

>>376827690
Literally who gives a fuck about 9S

As long as 2B is alive that's all that matters

>>376829894
hit a nerve I suppose

>>376829953
>BAAAW DON'T INSULT MUH BASED MASTER KOJIMBO!!!
Delusional Kojima fanboys should kys.

>>376830002
>kys
outed yourself as a newfag ironic weeb, pack it up.

>>376829919
I never expected it to be. Ditto for P5. BotW or Horizon Zero Dawn will take it home for certain.

That said, I think P5, and Automata have the potential to be my Games OTY.

>>376830002
grammar!

>>376829919
It'll be something faggots bring up around GOTY discussion so that they seem interesting for liking something "niche", making themselves the underdogs. That's a lot of what this is anyways.

>>376829953
never played Automata.

Its on my "to get" list.

>>376829952
I found MGS2 to be weaker than MGS5

The difference between Kojima and Taro is that Kojima can actually design a game

Theyre not even in the same league

>>376830162
it's epic and madman for me to be enjoying such honestly shitty games though.

>>376830162
Kojima wants games to be movies and all he cares about his directing

Taro actually wants games to be interesting

>>376830162
Wait, are we sucking Kojimas dick now again? /v/ is moving too fast!

>>376828235
I think Undertale is grossly overrated (although I don't hate it, it's just okay) but I think Automata is phenomenal.

>>376830235
stop falling for memes, how new are you?

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>>376830162
>Kojima can actually design a game
MGS4
MGS PW
MGS 5

>>376826363
>Horizon: Zero Dawn
I'm guessing you have shit taste?
>Second place is Mass Effect: Andromeda
Nope, you're just retarded.

>>376830235
Taro just wants to lorefag and build a game around it.

Kojima was doing everything he was doing back in 2001

>>376830304
Great gameplay in both MGS4 and MGS5.

>>376830351
(You)

>>376830304
MGS1, MGS2, MGS3

Three (3) top tier games and thats more than Taro produced in his entire career

Wouldn't call it a shit game, but it's not for me. Couldn't really get into it.

>>376828946

Literally no one cares about Quake or Thief, Resident Evil 4 was copied by absolutely no one and the first person shooter genre as a whole has zero artistic merit aside from a select few outliers like Metroid Prime.

Metal Gear Solid was the Nier Automata of its time, but just like the latter game it wasn't because of its core gameplay or its story - it was because of how it advanced the concept of interactivity in games and broke new ground in several fields such as voice acting and cinematography.

>>376830268
you're just following memes now then, hate undertale, love automata

>>376830351
MGS4 had gameplay? Do you mean the short transitions between the cutscenes?

Nier: Automata is like MGS V but actually good.

>>376830445
Nice meme.

I really hate all the weeb sexuality in this fucking game and sometimes sidequests are meh but... The existential horror themes. Fuck those got to me.

>>376830405
MGS3 is the only good one, idiot. Stop falling for the memes.

>>376829670
as he is now, Taro is pretty close to kierkegaard as a philosophic mind

>>376830441
He literally wrote that he doesnt hate Undertale. Try again and learn to read.

>>376830498
>unironically implying that MGS4 has gameplay
Nice meme.

>>376830418
Basically confirming that MGS did all that nier automata has received praise for, also did it better, even.
>>376830517
mgs3 is literally the worst one of the ones he listed.

>>376830509
>MUH SEXUALLY IDENTIFY AS AGENDER

>>376830498
How is that a meme? I played through the game at least 5 times and everytime my biggest and only complaint was "The ratio between cutscenes and gameplay is off"

>>376830509
read a book, maybe?

>>376830587
MGS3 is literally the only good MGS game, retard.
Holy fuck how autistic and delusional can you be? Kill yourself, faggot.

>>376830587
What point are you trying to make? That no game should ever attempt what MGS 2 did ever again?

>>376830709
certainly not to a lesser level than mgs2

>>376830676
just because you grew up only playing mgs 3 doesn't make that the truth.

>>376830762
Well...MGS2 was kinda mediocre 6/10 and Automata is a fantastic 9.5/10 so I don't really get what you're saying desu.

>>376830847
meme

>>376830709
The point is Automata isn't "pushing the medium forward " like the underage'd want to think.

It's already just a reheated version of shit Taro had already been doing, but LPfaggots wont ever get that.

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>>376830882
Not an argument. Looks like I won.

>>376830882
Is every opinion we dont share now a meme? Whats the correct /v/ approved answer to "meme"? "Not an argument?"

>>376830908
Name one other game that has done anything like Ending E.

>>376829994
www great comeback

tell me more

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Automata:

Likavle characters.
Satre and Simone relationship was more thwn just a minor namedrop.
Ending E was legit fantastic.
Sidequests were enjoyable little emotional mini-stories that'd occasionally have a little existential themes going on in them, nothing too serious.

Combat was good. It was enjoyable and felt good to hit shit.
World design could have been better but it was basically just smaller hubs stitched together.

The existential themes are nothing new to weebshit, if you follow Taro on Twitter you see he likes Berserk, Ghost in the Shell, and Evangelion.

Nier Automata was just another exanple of a japanese dude taking stuff he loves and putting them together.

Shit, I told him that he's on Hideaki Anno's level as far as making nerds butthurt and he fucking followed me for it, just because I compared him to his sempai.

Game was good, nothing to stop you from actually reading Nietzsche or Satre themselves, but I just dont understand the butthurt over it.

>>376823486
What's a /VG/?

>>376830908
>just a reheated version of shit
So exactly like MGS games then?

>>376830923
you've proven yourself to be an ironic weeb who should go back, is all

>>376830923
>>376830982
Freaking hell I called it.

>>376830762
Why not? Both Nier and MGS2 tackle different kind of themes, the only actual downside to Nier was the limited budget unlike MGS2.

>>376830908
While Nier isn't actually pushing the medium forward it does a good job making people remember why videogames should be videogames and not movies or glorified story simulators with occasional gameplay moments.

>>376831024
>calling people "ironic weebs"
Looks like you're the on who needs to go back, cancer.
>>>/reddit/

>>376830997
Undertale, Earthbound.

Even then Ending E dosent save the rest of the game from being poorly directed and having shit design.

When your Space Invaders segments are unironically better designed than the rest of the game, you have a big fucking problem.

>>376831004
>Shit, I told him that he's on Hideaki Anno's level as far as making nerds butthurt and he fucking followed me for it, just because I compared him to his sempai.
why are ironic weebs so trash and where do they come from?

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>>376831146
>bait
newfag indicator, all it does is prove you have no argument

>>376831004
The problem comes in with people acting like its the second coming. It's ok to like the game, but dont pretend its anything more than what it is.

>>376831112
>Undertale, Earthbound.

They have the same idea of breaking the 4th wall with the end of the game but that's where the similarities end. There's a lot more to Ending E than just the 4th wall breakage.

Great atmosphere
Great but sparce plot
Great ost

Shitty combat
Shitty open world
Shitty quests

8/10 but only because Im a music fag. If not its. 7/10. Great game.

>>376825453
I can't understand the criticism of the quests. All of them were meaningful to the themes and the story, and none truly felt tedious. There was no filler, unlike most other open world games.

>>376831286
That's all people jerk off about, and I do understand the point behind it.

My main greivances with Automata are its piss poor game design, the plot is shit too but I could easily overlook it if the gameplay wasn't left on the backburner too. All they really did was beef up the base-level mechanics from Nier 1 and left it at that.

>>376823486
RE7 and BOTW still top condender for GOTY suck it, nerds

>>376823486
The pc port is dogshit

>>376831070
and the only downside to MGS2 was Raiden

and the Patriot AI

>>376823486
At least the thread has proven that OP was in the right.

>>376831070
>glorified story simulators
thats exactly what Automata is though

>>376831070
>While Nier isn't actually pushing the medium forward it does a good job making people remember why videogames should be videogames and not movies or glorified story simulators with occasional gameplay moments.

Hardly what MGS2 is, fucking Nier has that textbook sequence in the forest, that shit is literally the opposite of gameplay.

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>>376831131
Dude, whether I qualify as an ironic weeb seems to vary by the fucking hour.

>>376831245

The problem comes in with people acting like its pure utter irredeemable shit. It's ok to not like the game, but mindless cynicism doesnt make you look intelligent.

I agree with most of the criticisms, still love the game, BUT the 2DEEP4U poaters are fucking falseflags. Same thing with EVA, people are calling it 2 deep because the shitposters come off as 2 angry to calm down.


>>376831398
My only problem with the sidequests is that they felt discontinuous from the mains story. Like youd do some quest that shows robutts have feelings and 9s would still have his head in the sand. I Understand it was supposed to be denial but it didnt feel liek that when i played it

>>376831728
>. Same thing with EVA, people are calling it 2 deep because the shitposters come off as 2 angry to calm down.
I avoid EVA discussion on principle because of this, the work speaks for itself, there's nothing to talk about.

>>376823486
Mediocre game, and wasted potential, it doesn't live up to original NieR, the combat sure is flashy but it's actually shallow, it doen't help that i've been playing Ni-OH before this game, after playing Ni-OH fluid combat, going to NieR definitely feels inferior and shallow

Route A is great
Route B is dogshit
Route C is good
Route D/E is too short and the """plot twist""" is really dumb

also the music just feels kinda out of place, and it definitely inferior to original NieR

tl;dr booty/10; the best thing of this game is 2B porn

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I like this thread. Don't even understand what are you talking about, but this is a good thread.

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>>376831790
Problem with EVA is pic related.

>>376831695
And the massive amount of cutscenes thrown at your head in MGS 2 constitute gameplay or what?
Nier:Automata funnily enough has as much cutscenes as MGS2 yet the former feels like it has more gameplay moments because they are actually pace well.

>>376831926
what a fucking retard, especially since taro literally sold his game with 2b

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>>376823486
Let's do this

Gameplay: 6
Story/Structure: 9
Graphics: 5
Sidequests: 8
OST: 9

>Overall: 7.4

>>376831414
>That's all people jerk off about, and I do understand the point behind it.
The incredible (and fitting, in multiple levels) music and the whole sacrificing your save file to help other people get talked about a lot as well.

>My main greivances with Automata are its piss poor game design

The gameplay isn't amazing but you're horribly jaded if you think it's bad. My guess is that you're one of those people who expected the gameplay to be something like Bayonetta or DMC because of Platinum. What we got for gameplay is serviceable and avoids being a detriment to the game's main attraction which is the plot. Not to mention a few utterly amazing segments like Simone and the final parts of the Tower ascension, which definitely make up for the blander aspects in my eyes.

I want to hate this game. The combat is mediocre. The shooting sections are awful. The only good boss fight is operabot. Hacking gets boring fast. They don't utilize enemy variants enough. The game is short. Short! ABCDE. And the story doesn't explain the mysteries it sets up.

I really want to hate it, but the writing that is there is interesting and the music is great. They should've led Platinum direct the gameplay, added more enemy variants and personally, I wanted to see more from beginning of route C. Turn it into its own act to flesh out A2, 2B and Commander.

I liked it.

It's a platinum game, so I expected shallow, boring, flash but no substance combat, and got exactly that.

It's a taro game, so I expected feels and sad shit happening, and got exactly that (for the most part, worst endings of every taro game made)

Drakengard is still my favourite Taro, but Tomato was good enough.

>>376832042
I didnt expect Bayonetta or DMC, I'll tell you what I expected

>no pointless stats that do nothing but pad out the game
>no poorly balanced difficulties and upgrades that allow you to cheese the game before you're even done with the first route
>not literal hack 2 win
>A2 being more than 2B with Intoner mode

Its basically caught up in the same shit many Action RPGS do: they try to do both but do neither well. So when people say its "pushing the medium forward" I just find it laughable. It's game design is too by-the-numbers and hacked out for that.

>>376831982
You dont understand.

Waifuism is a spectrum disorder. Liking 2B ass is fucking normalfag tier.

Eva has the problem where the waifuwars have turned into people prohecting their own mentsl illnesses onto the characters and then fighting over whose not crazy.

>>376832139
If it got an enhanced edition it would be perfect.

>>376832042
I will never undertand how people hate the gameplay. I can tolerate Morrowind, its got fun combat once you level up, Drakenguard has fucking bad gameplay.

>>376832336
Drakengard is basically The Witcher and you dont have to think anything more about it.

Automata is just a decent action game thats held back by RPG bullshit.

>>376831398
>All of them were meaningful to the themes and the story,
The box organizing quest chain.

>and none truly felt tedious. There was no filler, unlike most other open world games.
The artifact collection quest in the desert, extremely tedious although there is a point to it.

Gathering archives for Pascal and intel for 4S is also pretty much tedious filler, although they do fit into the story they're still just the same idea any other open world game with a "find all these hidden items/kill all the hidden enemies" quest chain. Granted you don't have to actually get them all for Pascal but there's no way to know what exactly you need or where to get it.

I love Automata but there are definitely some poorly designed elements in it.

>>376832026
I give everything a 6.5, maybe 7 except for OST which gets an 8 because so many good tracks were reused to the point where they just got annoying

>>376829379
>/mu/
babby's first board, with /v/ as the 0th.

>>376830441
But the meme on /v/ is to hate both (or at least it was, the Umdertale hate has suspiciously died down as the outward praise for it also has, almost as if it's opposition was little more than contrarian faggots and the same will happen to Automata) , the meme outside of here is to love both.

>>376831398
Dude, most of the quest was tedious and repetitive, just like most of open world game quest, even though it's not as bad as XV, it certainly isn't something to write home about

>>376832623
Fair enough.

But you should do yourself a favor and play the first nier, maybe then you'll be able to appreciate it as much a I do.

Even though the gameplay of the first nier is absolute ass compared to automata.

now it looks like 9s actually awakes afeter ending e in the last translation of the script but a2 why dont know yet
http://nier2.com/blog/2017/05/07/nierautomata-concert-evening-show-may-5th/

>>376832495
I definitely felt some bits were poorly designed, but while playong it was nothing more than
>ehh this could be better
>this twist shouldnt have had its set up locked in a part C side quest

Flesh out a2, add some more foreshadowing to a &b, and easy 9.5 out of 10.

>>376832762
Gameplay and movement were smooth and fun enough that I didnt mind, music mixing made doing the quests still interesting.

>>376832495
>The box organizing quest chain
helped flesh out Jackass as a character, but I get your point.

>>376832913
A2 probably just woke up and fucked off.

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Only thing I dislike is the performance. I get 60fps but holy shit my graphics card is melting. How do you make a game like this so demanding?

>>376833284
I get the sense that they started with a very basic/outdated engine and then awkwardly tacked on some meme features like GI to make it seem more modern.

>>376829976
>As long as 2B is alive
2B shuts herself off permanently when she finds out she can't get 9S back. Anon is a faggot that hasn't read the entire thing.

>>376833735
You're absolutely correct.

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>ETA: 11h 36m
SEED FUCKERS

>>376826784
wow it's almost as if, true fans and people to whom the game's designed for bought it ASAP and it wasn't until lazy piratefags came in that discussion was filled with uninformed plens who are more interested in getting something for free than what it is they actually god...

>>376834179
that disagrees with none of what he said

>>376834302

it sort of does...

>>376831926
waifushit is all this """authors""" have

>>376833284
60 on what 1980 x 108op or 1280 x 720? and high everything?

>>376831926
>waifu fagging
but don't you want to make A2 your wife without the need of unnecessary wars

>>376823486
Oh no OP is terminally ill

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>>376832026
Gameplay: 7
Mostly decent to good but not amazing, has a few strokes of genius though like ending E and the Ro-Shi/Ko-Shi fight, which I've never seen anything like. That keeps it from getting a 6. There's good variety too with the hacking and flight segments as well as camera changes, although sometimes it's poorly implemented.

Writing: 9
Utterly amazing plot although with a few minor missteps.

Characterisation for 9S, Pascal and the Pods are fantastically done. 2B lacks much but with good reason. A2 unfortunately is a bit of a mess without supplementary material to help explain her character. Other minor characters are done very well.

Graphics: 8
Never got the graphics hate. They look nice and there are some very beautiful areas. That said I haven't played many 8th gen games so I may just not know what a truly beautiful modern game looks like.

The aesthetic design is great regardless of actual graphical power though, which I'd say is even more important. Character and area design, animations, splash art for things like weapon stories and the story books are all amazing.

Sound: 10
The soundtrack of absolutely amazing music and the credits song especially is a pure work of art. The syncing of tracks with gameplay is also done very well, and once again especially in the final credits. Easily my favourite OST for any game.

The voice acting is amazing in Japanese. I haven't listened to the dub much although I've heard it's very good as far as dubs go.

Sound effects are great as well, although I don't really know anything about sound effect design so I can't go into it.

Performance: 6 for PC.
The one real problem with the game. At least on PC, crashes are unfortunately common and optimization is poor with lots of framerate issues.

Overall: 8/10 on PC, higher on PS4 if performance issues are lessened. Could easily become a true 10/10 with an enhanced version or patch to fix the performance issues and polish up some of the weaker gameplay segments.

>>376835509
amazing amazing amazing
>the level of intelligence of taro dicksuckers

>>376835627
I'm not a native English speaker. Apologies for my lack of knowledge of the entire vocabulary.

>>376835710
well you're doing okay.

>>376823486
On my way home, just pirated it, what should i expect?

>>376835627
Why are you so fucking persistent, just fuck off you autistic cunt


just look how hard you fucking trying you mega gobbler sucker

>>376823545
FPBP, once again.

Much like Persona 3, Nier Automata has a bunch of elements that fall short but the combined result ends up being an incredibly memorable and entertaining experience.

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>>376835509
you are copying me

>>376835834
back to redddit
>>376835785
memes for anime watchers

>>376836016
why are you doing this

>>376836095
every single game on /v/ has at least one douchebag who dedicates his life to shitting on it whenever he can, just ignore it...

>>376836230
I guess like you are since you have multi fucking personalities

well we speaking here in the most horrible shithole on the web

just finished all of it after over 20 hours and I have to say if it weren't for the Yoko Taro craziness I would have stopped playing 5 hours into the game and if not there then at various points further in. Honestly, from a gameplay perspective I will replay the original before replaying this one which I don't think I ever will. Some time has passed since the release and I think it's ok to talk about it now.

While general movement and combat smoothness is obviously hugely improved from the original, what the game actually does with it is just underwhelming and when it comes to other gameplay aspects like level design it's even lacking to the original which was not a hit in that regard. What it comes down to:

1. Basically all sections involving the mech are extremely shallow & more importantly boring and as they happen so frequently throughout the game it creates a huge detriment specific to this game. Hold R1, mash the attack button and fall asleep every time. It's too simple for it to be anything other than a one-time gameplay variation but here we are. It doesn't help that playing through the whole game requires you to play most of the mech sequences twice where the mediocre set-pieces lose the surprise factor. It's like you took one of the many varied gameplay set pieces present in The Wonderful 101, dumbed it down even more and actually made it a main mechanic of your game that will occur the same way frequently throughout the game. I adore gameplay variation in my games but this game does it in all the wrong ways.

2. Combat encounters and enemy design. This game's encounter pacing is like in the Shadowlord's Castle in the original only stretched to every location. You are often running through corridors from enemy arena to enemy arena that last pretty long but just like in original Shadowlord's Castle the encounter design is not varied and good enough thus halfway through becoming a chore you want to get over with.

(part 1/2)

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>>376836343
what?

(Part 2/2)

Additionally egregious is the fact that basically every encounter features spamming a buttload of filler standing/flying enemies that shoot some orbs you have to go after and kill so you can progress. The boss battles themselves I would consider OK overall but two of them are some of the worst Platinum Games has ever made and they have made bad ones before.

3. Otherwise combat on ground itself is overall solid but even then you will play the dumbed version of it as 9S half of your playthrough. The hacking minigame is cool the first time you do it but it just is like the mech sections is to simplified nevermind that most of these feel almost randomly generated to ever be something you want to do instead of mashing at your enemy especially as this game likes to throw at you a literal horde of enemies. As a result you will just use the lacking combat instead.

4. NieR actually featured some real puzzle moments and novel level design this game lacks and would actually create the feeling of gameplay variety. Level design as found in the Barren Temple and Emil's Mansion doesn't exist in this game.

5. Some crazy mindless walking around with even one filler trading sequence in there while not having the teleport option. The game gives it to you later on but then very often doesn't let you teleport for story reasons which is not always handled well. Sometimes it makes perfect sense and sometimes it doesn't and should be enabled in scenarios.

There is more to talk about compared to the original but after not hearing much complaints about the gameplay, the original always known for being lackluster in this regard and Platinum Games working on this, it's just something I've been surprised by. I actually feared something like this after playing the demo. And just like the first one it makes up for it with characters, atmosphere, story, scenarios and lore.

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>>376823486
Its a great game, best game for the last 5 years.

>>376827892
I wish steam wouldn't sell me a buggy pirated version then.

Who do I have to sue to get some patches around here?

>>376836694
you could do this meme shit in the original nier too bandwagon fucko

>>376836694
Man, the enviroment in nier automata is downright ugly

>>376829471
>desperately
I don't think Yoko Taro used MGS2 as a basis for this game at all nor was his intention to "desperately" trying to replicate its message. Stop trying to forcefeed your ideas of what the game is trying to convey

You want to shit on Automata, do it with valid criticism not with shitty arguments just to make people triggered. The game has its problems but it seems to me that either people watched it on Youtube so they have a flawed perspective of the game's intentions or they just don't know what they're talking about, and also maybe both.

>>376823808
What is sharpshooter fallacy?

>>376828946
I wonder what books change half of their content when you read them again.
>>376827335
You shouldve been here back in MGSV threads
All those "game being incomplete is just an artistic choice!"

>Best game ever
>Worst game ever
>I'm smarter
>No I'm more smarterer
Children. I hate children. I hate you.

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>gets numerous 10/10's because it was developed by Platinum Games
>it has the mechanical depth of Legend of Korra
Heh.

>>376835509
At least half of 4chan is not english native you idiot.
>>376835509
>>376832026
Why rate graphics when it's literary
>money slapped on the project
What's important is artstyle.
The foreigner-kun got it right but called it graphics.

>>376837308
The Drakengard series and the original Nier were all plot-focused games held back by poor gameplay. Automata is a plot-focused game with decent gameplay so that getting from one plot point to the next isn't a slog. It also has a few great moments where the gameplay is wonderfully integrated into the plot.

People aren't rating it highly because they're Platinum fanboys defending a Platinum title with subpar gameplay by Platinum standards, in fact those are usually the people who hate the game since they expected it to be Bayonetta with robots.

People are rating Automata highly because it's a Yoko Taro game where the gameplay, while not amazing, doesn't feel like a complete piece of shit thanks to Platinum.

I bet it's not as good as the Witcher 3 :^)

>>376823486
Why is the shitposter base for this game so autistic? I'm a BOTW fag, but at least with that game you couldn't flat identify and recognize the shitposters. Nor did they make threads shitting on the game every single fucking day.

>>376838742
Witcher 3 sold more than 20 millions, NieR """shipped"""" one million copy, but the funny thing is you can literally see a mountain pile of the unsold copies everywhere

>>376824814
>Literally the greatest game of all time.
>Combat is shallow
Something's wrong here.

>>376832042
>the game's main attraction which is the plot
And this is where everything went terribly wrong.

>>376835509
>has a few strokes of genius though like ending E
>Tarofags think a shitty shmup is good gameplay in a hack and slash Action RPG

>the Ro-Shi/Ko-Shi fight
Yeah, ten minutes with no checkpoints, minimum fight times and one hit kills is fantastic design.

>There's good variety too with the hacking and flight segments
Go fuck yourself. Variety should come from the core gameplay (hack and slash), not super shallow shmups that are inferior in every way imaginable.

>>376841150
>>Tarofags think a shitty shmup is good gameplay in a hack and slash Action RPG
It's not about the shmup itself, it's the way it was so beautifully well integrated with everything else.

>Yeah, ten minutes with no checkpoints, minimum fight times and one hit kills is fantastic design.
Get good.

>Go fuck yourself. Variety should come from the core gameplay (hack and slash), not super shallow shmups that are inferior in every way imaginable.
I legitimately like hacking but I'll agree that the flight segments are mostly bland and repetitive, worst offender being Grun for how absurdly long it is.

That said there's some good implementations of it like the Engels fights.

>muh hack and slash
The game was never intended to be some cuhrayzee hack and slash high skill cap shit like DMC. It's your own fault for going in expecting something like that. It's a Yoko game ft. Platinum, not a Platinum game ft. Yoko.

Th greatest sin an action game can commit is having bad combat, and this game has it in spades. It's even more offensive because it has almost all it needs to have great combat, it's just that the devs chose not to care.

And don't you faggots pretend it's not trying to be an action game.

>Great fapbait
>Great soundtrack
>Great animations

That's it.

>>376841846
>It's not about the shmup itself
>gameplay isn't about gameplay
Good God Tarofags are even dumber than Zeldafags.

>Get good.
Explain how no checkpoints with one hit kills, shitboxes and shmup sections in a hack and slash game is in any way good game design.

>That said there's some good implementations of it
There literally isn't.

>The game was never intended to be some cuhrayzee hack and slash high skill cap shit like DMC
It isn't up to par with others in the same genre either. Also, Devastation has just as many RPG fight mechanics and better gameplay.

>it's ok that it's bad because the director is incompetent
Which means it's still bad.

nah it was okay

>>376823486
>I DON'T LIKE THIS SO NOBODY ELSE SHOULD LIKE IT OR I'LL REEEEEE

>>376829690

>NieR automata
>black and white morality

Did we even play the same game? The game where the protagonist loses all hope and sense of purpose and gradually becomes someone so unlikable, hateful and evil that death seems like release compared to forcing him to stay alive?

Black and white morality is shit like Superman or Halo, pure, just good guys vs irredeemable bad guys, this game was nothing like that.

The trolling of this game is pretty low tier. The game has flaws but that is not one of them. Try again.

>>376823486

I'm playing it right now and it's pretty fun.

It's like Metal Gear Rising, mixed with some bullet hell and topped with some grindan game stuff if you want to do it.

It's pretty fucking refreshing honestly. 60 dollars well spent and I can rarely say that these days. Playing the PS4 version though. I've heard the PC port is kind of wonky.