>Introduces Pliskin as a character early on in the game
>Explores his character indepth, with his own codec channel and everything
>Suddenly disappears from the game and nobody talks about him again
Why do people give MGS2 so much praise when this glaring issue was present? Did Kojima just give up on his character and refuse to acknowledge him again?
Hahaha do you want to know a secret?
Only the most hardcore, dedicated fans figured it out
I also never understood why they dropped pliskin. What happened to him? And where did Snake suddenly come from?
>>376805853
Please, do tell
Tasty meme OP.
>>376805902
>>376805909
PLISKIN IS SNAKE!!
>>376805993
If Pliskin is snake then who did 9/11?
Bluebilled cuck 0-1 Me
>>376805993
>Posting this shitty fan theory yet again
Why do you guys keep persisting on posting this trash? Is it because they're both played by David Hayter? Well shit I guess that makes Snake a time traveler who went to the 60s under the name Naked Snake to become Big Boss right?
Fucking ridiculous
>>376805902
Snake died in the tanker 2 years ago. Pliskin decided to honour this falled legend and became his phantom for the events of the plant chapter and mgs4.
>>376805993
You fucking spoiled everything, that would be a good thread
>>376805993
>>376806223
>implying
What is it that makes the MGS games so different from other games?
>>376807163
brand recognition
>>376807163
The fact that's able to have both extremely serious,powerful moments while also having silly 4th wall breaking moments and is able to make both work
>>376806192
DELETE
>>376805914
THE MEMES, JACK
>>376805993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CHLoMtro3k
>>376805706
It's hinted at in the PSP motion comic that Pliskin recovered the bodies of Seal Team after Fat Man's bombs were frozen. He may or may not have been killed in the fight with the black chick. It's also hinted at that he knew he was dealing with something over his pay grade and bailed. very much like Kojima he left Pliskin half finished..
>>376805706
I've only played TPP, been meaning to get round to the others at some point but is this for real? Is there actually a character named Pliskin? I thought the whole Snake thing was a pretty on the nose rip-off of John Carpenter.
>>376808171
Yes, and he is named Pliskin to pay homage to Carpenter. Kojima is fond of his movies.
>>376808310
I ask because I googled it after I finished TPP and there seemed to be little indication of that, he even said something to the effect of Snake having nothing to do with Snake Plissken.
Now that the thread is ruined, I've been wondering.
Was I ever supposed to think pliqsuine wasn't snake?
>>376808462
Well it's a fact that there is a character in MGS2 Plant part who is named Pliskin. He also looks exactly like Solid Snake.It actually IS Snake who survived the tanker incident
>>376808592
Holy shit he says "I am S... Pliskin" (or something like that) when introduces himself to Raiden.
>>376805993
Snake died at the beginning of the game idiot.
>>376808592
I always think you just didn't suppose to know.
Beginning of the game they ask you if you played the first game if you say no you directly start from Plant and have no idea how snake is seen
>>376809405
What version of the game has it?
I played Substance and it didn't ask me. I just pressed Tanker - Plant and then... The Hudson River. two years ago.
>>376809560
>>376809405
I pressed that I never played and it also gave me The Hudson River, Two Years Ago
>>376809621
Then I guess you should play MGS1 to get Shadow Moses, 4 years ago.
>>376808592
It was probably made more clever in japanese version, david hayter's voice makes it too obvious
Quick question
Did the Patriots know Snake survived the Tanker incident, or we're they rused?
>>376811234
kek
>>376805993
Bullshit, prove it
>>376807163
They were an early example of cinematic games but also had good gameplay.
>>376813220
lol
>this entire thread
>>376805993
Snake died, dumbass
>>376805993
You fucking tinfoil hat mgs dick suckers are the worst. Just admit Kojima is a hack and forgot about the character. I wouldn't be surprised if this game was actually written by Hideo instead.
>>376814908
Careful what you say anon. The same people who think Pliskin is Snake usually also think that Hideo and Kojima are actually the same person
>>376815496
>Hideo and Kojima are actually the same person
How. It's literally impossible
What was even the point of that?
>he's not solid snake
>lol, yes he is!
>>376815715
No idea man
Honestly I think they just say it for attention
>>376805706
(You) really pissed me off with this one.
>>376805993
But Snake died on that tanker 2 years ago faggot
>>376805993
snake died on that tanker though??
>>376818242
Yes he did.
>durr ignorant gamer thread le xDD
Kill yourselves.
>enemies in MGS2 had actually used tactics and had realistic animations
>everything was abandoned in later games
call me pliskin
>>376811141
>believing otacon propaganda
Holy shit get over his death already you fucking weeaboo
>>376819306
What about in MGS3?
>>376821106
It had memes.
>>376821985
That was MGS2
>>376822221
nah MGS3 memes was better and it had more of them.
>slamming a big silver cock into a well oiled asshole
and all that.
>>376822429
That was in the first game.
>>376822518
Still revolver Ocelot
>t. Revolver Ocelot
>>376822429
No I mean MGS2 was literally about memes
You guy's don't get it, Pliskin was all in Raiden's head, it's his VR training getting into his head and creating an exterior form, of course he looks like Solid Snake because Raiden admires him.
The reason why the colonel says he isn't apart of the simulation isn't because he wasn't supposed to be on the big shell, but because he ISN'T there.
>>376805706
This is bait right...? Right
So who the fuck is Old Snake?
Snake's grandpa?
>>376823654
That's actually Solidus Snake, reconstructed with nanomachines after MGS2.
Guys... What if Raiden and Raikov are the same person?
I mean, come on. Their face and hair and name look so similar!
>>376808310
>pays homage
But kojima denies that.
>>376823654
Old Snake is Old Snake. It's not complicated. Old Snake is Old Snake, Solid Snake is Solid Snake, Liquid Snake is Liquid Snake, Naked Snake is Venom Snake, Solidus Snake is Solidus Snake.
>>376805706
>Did Kojima just give up on his character and refuse to acknowledge him again?
It was Solid Snake in disguise.
>>376814908
>hideo is the one running the show now
I guess sony got played like a controller.
>>376824295
I've actually had someone who's never played the games say it's too confusing because there's too many Snakes.
>>376808824
Nah Pliskin just has a speech impediment don't worry about that
>>376824383
Wow what retarded Nintendo dev came up with and forced in this stupid headcanon
>>376824383
>implying Smash Bros is canon
>implying Brawl is canon
>>376813606
welcome to MSG2 threads on /v/.
Where morons actually listen to an AI who:
lies and manipulates information/people
and says shit like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul8j9I90ueM
>>376808592
I think you were supposed to have some doubts. At least you would if you played the japanese version since Solid and Solidus share the same actor.
>>376823654
That's decoy octopus. Real solid snaked died during the prison torture by ocelot.
During waking up scene in cell, decoy took over him like medic did in V. Player is rused int thinking they're controlling snake. Liquid died from fox die but not decoy, sniper wolf, ocelot, raven, psychomantis.
This is decoy showing his age with the excuse of genes breaking down.
>>376824383
>brawl snake is just big boss in sneaking suit
I hate kojimas big boner for big boss.
>>376805706
It's implicitly explained at the end of 4 and V. Pliskin had his head tampered with to have him believe he was Snake, just like Liquid/Ocelot and BigBoss/Venom
>>376824805
Snake isn't relatable because he's a clone according to Kojima.
>>376824005
Same goes to Johnny.
They're already part of the parasite prototype program. They don't age.
>>376824914
what a retard