LMFAO at people thinking this will compare to the Galaxy games.

>>376799843
>its gonna be as good as the best 3D mario game
And?

>it's gonna be a hub world that connects to other worlds

oh shit nice

>>376799843
Galaxy 1 and 2 are some of the worst games in the series, so thank god.

>Sunshine-tier

So a masterpiece return to form?

I'll take anything over galaxy's jumping from planet to planet in a linear route

>sunshine tier at best
so it's going to be amazing at best? what a prediction

>>376799843
>Sunshine-tier

So just as good as the greatest 3D platformer ever made?

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>>376799843
>It's gonna be Sunshine-tier at best
Cool, can't wait.

>>376799843
>It's gonna be Sunshine-tier at best.
so? sunshine is great when you ignore the bullshit

>>376799843
>It's gonna be Sunshine-tier at best.

Damn OP, I'm liking it already. Tell me more.

/v/ is filled with Gamecubebabbies that are deluded enough to believe Sunshine was the best 3D Mario.

Good, Sunshine was better

>>376799843
t. falseflagging sunshinefag

Holy shit this thread is the cringiest i've ever seen on /v/. I bet you faggots unironically liked DOUBLE DASH too ffs

>>376800403
>>376800480
kill yourselves wiifags, you're not even old enough to post here

>>376800403
>>376800516

Were you hoping for a Galaxy circlejerk or something?

So way better than the Galaxy games? Cool. Now if only it can be as good as 64 as a game, but I'll settle for Sunshine especially if it'll ooze atmosphere like Sunshine did.

>>376799843
Umm no sweetie, Nintendo only makes masterpieces these days.

>>376800536
You first, you mouthbreathing cocksucker. All you sunshine babbies should be taken out and shot in the fucking street like the trash that you are.

>>376799843
Man I like Galaxy and the sequel but I don't want more games that play like it.

>>376799843
sunshine was better than galaxy

in fact, galaxy was one of the worst 3d games

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>>376800734
forgot my pic

I know OP is shitposting, but is that really what normalfags think?

>>376801091
No. They just bitch about the realistic humans and claim it will be the Sonic 06 of the series.

>>376799843
Nope, it looks good. Too bad for them Wii U made me hate nintendo

>>376800883
Is that yfw you made your post?

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>>376799843
>LMFAO

>>376799843
Are there really people that don't know Sunshine is the best and arguably only good 3D Mario game?

The Galaxy games were garbage, hampered by wii gimmicks

>>376801410
Sunshine is my favorite but 64 is good shit

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>>376800080
>Galaxy 1 and 2 are some of the worst games in the series

lmaoing at these graphics

why is nintendo so incompetent

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>>376799843
>Sunshine
>at best

You take that back you mingy bastard, that game was dope as fuck

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>>376801410
>Are there really people that don't know Sunshine is the best and arguably only good 3D Mario game?

Sunshine is a good game, but its the worst 3D Mario.

>>376802230
You are out of your mind if you think anything after Sunshine is anything more than mediocre

Wow, suddenly Sunshine is cool again? Will you people make up your goddamn mind?

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/349758806/

>>376802395
Hundreds of people bare minimum regularly visit this board. There's bound to be dissenting opinions.

>>376801302
made me kek desu

>>376799843
Sunshine > Galaxy anyway...

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>>376802395
this is the truth, everyone is so desperate to be a contrarian these days
that or literal newfags who had a fucking wii as their first nintendo console, reminder that the wii came out 11 years ago

I unuronically really like Sunshine.

Sunshine was good, but it felt like it was missing something that you really can't explain.

It was almost as if it was a strange & subtle attempt to make a 3D version of Mario Land where the enemies looked different.

I don't even know FUCK.

>>376800549
64/SMG1.

Because Sunshine is a glitchy mess.
Take your fucking TTYD, Sunshine, and Double Dash, and fucking leave.

>>376802885
but sunshine is objectively the worst 3d mario

Good, I liked Sunshine.

Especially Mario's run and movement in Sunshine. He controlled like a dream in that game

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>>376803515
>He controlled like a dream
THIS is why I loved Sunshine and 64, the controls were on-fucking-point.

>>376803041
It was missing half the framerate.

Try it again now on Dolphin with 60fps codes, it's fucking magical.

>>376800516
What's not to like?

>>376799843
Well Sunshine is the best Mario so I don't see the problem

Sunshine was GOAT, let's not pretend otherwise

>>376800734
Aww. Babbies first trashtalk. How cute.

>>376799843
That's some fat bait, Anon.

Hope you caught what you wanted.

>>376802971
>post 2013-newfags
Newfags calling other newfags newfags

>four buildings in this whole area ...

WOAH SO THIS IS THE POWER OF SWITCH

>>376800403
It wasn't the best, but it sure was preferable to both Galaxy and 3D. Maybe in the next game or the other they'll match 64.

>>376800124
I don't get this complaint... is that not what Mario has always been? Except instead of going left to right, you go forward

>>376799843

The Sunshine levels without fludd are the best 3D platforming sections in the history of video games.

>>376804561
3D Mario had you go in all directions before Galaxy started stripping acrobatic 3D platforming, which would eventually lead into the sad state of the 3D series. You know, the whole point of the 3D jump? Adding another dimension and making use of it?

It's going too be as good as sonic 06.
The similarities are obvious, this will be the end of mario.

OP you have to remember that Sunshine was most of /v/'s first Mario game, so they'll think you're giving it a compliment.

why is /v/ always so contrarian

>>376804628
So, basically Mario 3D World.

>>376803680
Did they fix it recently or something? I tried it a while ago and it had some really annoying bug where colorful stars would clutter a corner of the screen.

>>376799843
They should combine the best of both worls and make large planetary maps. Planets the size of a 64 course.

Maybe mix it up with the design and use elements from 3D land and world. Dammit Nintendo... levels from Super Mario World and even SMB3 and SMB1 used to be CRAFTED fucking gold.

Kiddie brains didn't understabd how everything was just right. Now it's all gimmivcy shit.

I hope N puts effort into this shit, seeing as Zelda took a quantum leap in gameplay.

That said, parkour looks promising.

>>376804976
Post-2013-newfag children.

>it's going to be Sunshine-tier
So the best in the series?

>>376805029

3D Land is better

>>376805096
>being this late to the meme
Go back to sleep

>>376799843
>it's not going to be shit. It's going to be fucking great.
Why would you be laughing at them?

>>376804693
64 and Galaxy were totally different kinds of games though. The only reason 64 was "open" anyway is because they didn't have the space for lots of unique levels. They created the open levels out of necessity so it wasn't boring playing the same stages over and over again.

>>376799843
Galaxy was fuckng garbage though.

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Sunshine is my favourite but that's mostly due to nostalgia.

>>376801201

even fucking gamestop in store commercials are making fun of people who still think Odyssey is going to be LOL SONIC 06 HUMANS XD. It's one level. It's going to be a great level. The meme is dead.

>>376799843
>Sunshine-tier

Calling it now, it's going to be just barely better than SM3DW. Just look at the bosses. And the Crazy Cap store thing is going to get old. Not to mention the living Mario hat and MARIOOOOOOO already knock points off the top.

>>376806247
Gee I sure give a shit what gamestop thinks of me

>>376801410

>hampered by wii gimmicks
>the few roll ball stars
>player 2 mode
>waggling nunchuk to do a spin attack

OH MY GOD WAGGLE KILLED MARIO BRING BACK SUNSHINE!

>>376803157

what's wrong with Double Dash and Thousand Year Door? MK Wii autists are the only ones that hate DD because of the changes in drifting and most normies want the two person kart system to come back anyway. 8 Deluxe already lets you hold two items and it would be a good excuse to bloat the roster so why the fuck not? As for TTYD regardless of whether you think it was the best Mario RPG I don't think it is either but it is top 3 runnerup behind Legend of the Seven Stars, Superstar Saga, and THE ORIGINAL PAPER MARIO but if you think there was a better one since TTYD you are delusional or on nintendo's payroll.

>>376803515

>he controlled like a dream

take away the fludd. oops now he can't do shit because they took away his combat options and movement from 64 because of the super soaker.

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>>376799843
>sunshine=tier at best

>>376799843
>It's gonna be Sunshine-tier at best.

how is this a bad thing?

>>376804628

so Galaxy or 3D World

>>376800516
One /v/ro called DD the absolute best Mario Kart just the other day actually.

>>376806269

5 internets says the living hat sacrifices itself heroically.

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>>376799843
>It's gonna be Sunshine-tier at best.
That's cool with me, kid.

>>376800516

What's wrong with Double Dash?

Hard Mode: No mention of MUH DRIFTING

>>376800516
What's your favorite MK then?

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>>376806679
>Take away the mechanic the game is built around and you can't do much
woah

>>376806961
MK7 is goty.

>>376801827
He's right and I have no idea why people think otherwise. The vast majority of Galaxy is piss easy and yet also rarely offers the freedom to try out stuff like using powerups to fly around and explore freely. Until you near the end game it's a constrained, simple game with very forgiving platforming and little of the physics based gameplay Mario is known for.

>>376799843
>It's gonna be Sunshine-tier at best.

Fuck yeah

>>376807083

>the most unmemorable mk is your favorite

>>376806826
Because THAT trope hasn't already been played.

Why the hat.
Why FLUDD, why Link's hat, why why why why why?!

Fire whomever has this dumb fetish.

>>376799843
>it's going to be as good as the best Mario game ever made
cool can't wait

>>376806804
>>376806804

PERSONAL TOP 3 MK GAMES THAT I AM ONLY DOING TO GET YOUS READY GO

3.Mario Kart Dry Bones Edition aka. DS
2.Mario Kart Current Year RETURN OF FUCKING DRY BONES EDITION aka. 8 Deluxe
1. lol Double Dash suck it wiifags your bikes almost ruined the fucking series.

>>376807252
Well it introduced coins.

>>376799843
>It's gonna be Sunshine-tier at best.
GOTY

>>376807257

>why Link's hat

fuck you Minish Cap was good and so were the Oracle games.

>>376807347
As if that's a reason to like it.

7 did so much damage, as much as MKWii.

>>376805514
>The only reason 64 was "open" anyway is because they didn't have the space for lots of unique levels

What the fuck kind of logic is that? 64 was 'open' because they wanted to give you the freedom to jump around and explore the levels, which naturally lead to the player being about to search around for different 'exit points'. Having more obstacle courses would have been nice, but so much of 64s design would have been impossible were it more linear.

>>376807347

>MK7
>introducing coins to Mario Kart

uh anon....

>>376807419
Coins add more depth to the game.

>>376807407
That might be, but there was no need for the fucking hat. The game would have still played well independent of it.

>>376799946
Galaxy is the best 3d mario

>>376807467
Well ok, RE-introduced.

>>376807347

>mk7 introduced coins

oh do we tell him?

>>376807467
Let him have his moment.

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>>376799843
>It's gonna be Sunshine-tier at best
This is a good thing.

>>376799843
>galaxy better than sunshine
literally what

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>>376807347

>>376807083
Well, you gave an answer with your head held high, I'll give you that.

>>376807469
>MUH DEPTH

FUCK OFF

It's a party game,
Coins make racing that much more tedious,
And the Coin Items made the Item Imbalance and its effects that much worse in MK8 (granted, to a far lesser extent in 7, where it was introduced).

Go fucking play another game, Jesus fucking Christ.

> implying that's a bad thing
> implying

>>376807483

how is a magic hat that lets you shrink any different than a rod that changes seasons or an instrument that lets you time travel? Before you answer "sentience" just admit you your dislike for sidekicks in general then.

Why the fuck would I want it to compare to the Galaxy games? Fuck that, those games suck. 64 for life.

>>376807483
What difference does it make if it's the hat or an item that shrinks you down?

>thinking MK7 was good
fucking kek, it was a barebones and bland piece of shit that was only saved by the ability to play online and the online wasn:'t particularly amazing either
If Nintendo had any sense, they'd re-release a decent version of 7.

>>376807635

this pic just makes me miss DK Jr. in spinoffs. I know Diddy pretty much negated his existence but he was still in Mario Tennis 64.

>>376807315
I only played DS, Wii, 3DS,WiiU and Switch. I'd rate them in this order:
1) Switch because it has the best everything, lot of cool features, shiny graphics and no exploitable bugs.
2) WiiU because it's just the Switch version but with some problems here and there.
3) DS because it had missions and a fucking tank as one of the karts.
4) 7 because I like the coin mechanic and flying is sort of cool.
5) Wii as the worst because it made me waste money on a crappy wagglan enabler that turned out worse than the standard controls.

>>376799843
Nothing can compete with Galaxys

Sunshine is cool too I don't understand the hate

>>376807647
Just because it's a party game it doesn't mean it has to be absolutely braindead.

>>376807760
>>376807847
That doesn't fit Zelda for the same reason this otherwise beautiful piece is MARRED by a shitty gimmick.

Same reason the Master Cycle or AYY LMAOS aren't good fucking ideas.

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>>376807142

>best graphics for a Wii game
>best soundtrack ever in a Mario game
>incredible physics
>great use of motion controls
>actually a challenge after the end
>best side character for the franchise in the last 20 years
>still two of the best rated games in the history of video gaming

Yeah, you're just being a contrarian and dirty edgelord. Fuck you.

>>376807930

coins are cancer because they take up an item spot in the box rotation. If you are 5th or below and you get a coin in a box you are fucked.

Even if you don't consider sunshine to be great, you have to be brain dead to have thought mario galaxy was anything but the jumping off point of the series

>>376807994
It isn't braindead already - Items make sure of that regardless.

Again, fuck off and play some other game. Or get a job and/or life.

>It wont be like these great Mario games
>It'll be like this other great Mario game
We cant lose.

Although holy fuck I didnt realize how shit/v/'s taste was. Goddamn, Sunshine over Galaxy what the fuck

>>376808062

>this otherwise beautiful piece is MARRED by a shitty gimmick.

you have yet to describe why you don't like the minish cap other than "because i say so". Shrinking was cool and let you do stuff you couldn't do before or since. Also had one of the better variety of secondary items.

>>376808090
Good thing MK8D has double item boxes uh?

>>376807142
>He's right and I have no idea why people think otherwise.

Because Galaxy 1 and 2 are arguably the best 3d platformers ever made to date.

>>376808146
SMG1 was a bit disappointing in its linearity, but the gameplay and exploration were otherwise very serviceable WE FINALLY GOT some fucking interesting lore/some story instead of The Muppet Show: The Sequel.

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>>376799843
Sunshine is better but Galaxy still has one of my all time favourite Mario tracks.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcZhJDUFb58

>>376799843

So it'll be less linear then? 64 and sunshine are closer to each other than Galaxy. Galaxy is linear and easy as shit. It's boring as hell.

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>>376808253

Muh nigguh

Doesn't it mean a series is overall great if people can't agree on which part is the best one?

>>376808251
Single player its fine, but I've had a number of races where I've gotten double coins. Fucking infuriating

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>>376808178
>tfw coins are staying no matter how much some angry manlet on the internet may cry about it

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>>376799843
this is gonna be sonic generations/temple run
>unity
looks like it's made by Ubisoft

>>376808251

double boxes are adding a band aid to a bullet wound. also you can still get double coins.

>>376808361
I was the under the assumption item lag only occured in multiplayer but I saw it happening in single too, is it a bug of some sort? If that's the case maybe it will be addressed eventually.

>tfw no more double triple red shells

>>376799843
Nah.
Nintendo learned the joys of linear of polished platforming with Galaxy 1/2 and 3D World.
They are giving us only apparently open levels which actually follow the rules of linear ones.
This way they will finally make those "muh freedom" autists shut up for good.

>Odyssey merges the best parts of the recent 3D Mario's

It has Sunshine's open world and world designs
and it has Galaxy/3D World's straight forward gameplay when you find a platforming segment which is everywhere and not specific portals

>>376808063
>best graphics
yep this is the real reason galaxy fags exist, it was a pretty game and their crow brains liked the shiny graphics
>best soundtrack
it's really nice but it's almost cheating to have an orchestral soundtrack competing with regular ones
>incredible physics
kneecapped by obscenely slow movement and terrible level design
>great use of motion controls
holy shit this one has to be bait. shitty pointer controls were the worst thing about the wii and galaxy was no exception
>actually a challenge after the end
"it gets fun on the second playthrough guys i promise!"
>Best side character
I like Rosalina as much as the next guy, but her existence really has no bearing on how good of a game galaxy is or isn't
>still two of the best rated games in the history of video games
"Titanic is my second favorite movie after Avatar"

>>376808464
Nope, it effectively fixes the problem since item lag is clearly not intended.

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>>376799843
>Galaxy
>best Mario
Only sonyfags believe that.

Mario 64 is objectively the best.

Mario has never been so nimble and fluid. The momentum based physics in that game are top tier. That game allows you to explore and do shit your own way like no other Mario game since.

After how good BotW was, I'm hopeful. The hat seems a bit gimmicky, but Mario's run speed appears to be more akin to 64/SS so as long as there's nice physics and multiple ways to do things in a level (such as you don't have to pick the star you want to get), I'll be happy.

I'm also hoping there are a shitload of worlds. I hope they didn't blow their load early and show us too much.

I hope there's a boss fight with Donkey Kong in New Donk City.

I guess this is the time line where DK wins from DK 94.

>>376808236
YOU aren't going to fucking listen because you like it!

Rods? REALLY? A fucking staple of medieval fantasy wizardry? How stupid are you, because I get the feeling you were fed mercury or ate paint chips as a child.
As for instruments, guess what, it's been LONG established in THIS series that musical tones compel the goddesses/powers that be to offer you aid. Since, you know, the first Zelda. And that also isn't far out of place for medieval fantasy - see Bards and Dancers, which use tools (like instruments) and clothing that fit within the time period in question.

A talking hat is not only biologically outlandish and unnerving on the face of it, but served to be an annoyingly Easy Mode assistant to the game. Forced, in many circumstances.

Jesus fucking Christ.

>>376799843

People are arguing over which 3d Mario is the worst when SM3DL exists.

>>376808459

>Implying Nintendo uses anything that isn't their own engine

It's not Unity anon

>>376808464
Double Boxes are making people take routes people normally won't

also it closes the gap between first place

>>376808236
>shrinking mechanic
>no giantess zelda scene

That's where this game fails

>>376808380
>I don't have an actual argument, so I'm just going to post weebshit and shout I WON while I BRAAAAAAAAAAAP so succulently into my diapers.

OK autismo.

>>376808668
All 3d Mario are bad. Stop destroying classic 2d franchise already.

>>376808629
What I found really amazing about 64 is how on point they were with how Mario controlled on their FIRST shot at a 3d Mario game.

>>376800403
gamecube was the fucking dark ages and ill never understand the nostalgia for it

>>376808526

I'd say having an Orchestra made it less memorable. Other than the medley that plays when you get a star, I can't remember any of the music. It all bits together.

>>376808640

dude it's a fucking zelda game holy shit you are autistic.

>>376808723
How about you try to accept Mario Kart doesn't necessarily has to be a babies game despite looking like one? Coins reward precision, clever use of items and prevent a blue shell from utterly fucking your race up, the only real problem is getting them from item boxes but MK8D addressed that.

>>376799843
But Sunshine was amazing (for a Mario game)

>>376808810

>Stop destroying classic 2d franchise already.

we don't have to. The "New" series already did that.

>>376800516

Double Dash is fun anon

Sorry your hatewagon didn't catch on, but the children aren't awake yet

galaxy has worse movement and more watching mario get launched by stars.

the galaxy games look and sound good but the gameplay is mediocre.

>>376808810
2D sucks and belongs to the past. If you're unable to design a game with a functional third dimension it just means you're either lazy or lack a proper budget.

>>376808826

if gamecube was dark ages, then what the fuck was the wii? or the wii u?

>>376808815
Nintendo polish is a miraculous thing. They fine tuned the shit out of that game. It's even more impressive that it was a launch title.

Sunshine removed Mario's agility in place of the forgiving FLUDD, which was an OK experiment, but ultimately something that should not be retread unless serious changes are going to be made. The FLUDDless challenges were pretty tricky, but part of that challenge comes because Mario wasn't as tight to control.

>>376808839

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk_jQB9Iius

I'd say you have incredibly shit taste, sir

>>376808957

t. western developer from the late 90s/early 2000s

>>376808964
Wii killed off Microsoft so it has its merits.

>>376808957
Keep wondering why no good game came out in the last 10 years with an attitude like that... kill yourself faggot.

>>376809034
t. indie developer whose main skills rely in copypasting assets from other games

>>376809110

Originality in the current year? Where?

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>>376808839
>having an Orchestra made it less memorable
Nigga what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sN2DpfOhTo

>>376809028

Yep, no memories of anything past the first 10 second intro.

>>376809181
I don't know, that's exactly the problem.

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>>376800516

Best Mario Kart ever, you shitstain. D

Say something bad about this game to my face, you'd be terribly sorry afterwards.

>>376809110

>implying that is a bad thing

replicating nostalgia is becoming a fine art nowadays. there is however a clear difference between doing it well or badly though.

I'd love for it to be as good as the Galaxy games. I don't want to get my hopes up though.

its looking like they're trying to draw from the best of all of the 3d mario games for this one. The levels seem more inspired by 64 in that they each have their own unique theme and direction, both artistically and mechanically. And they also seem to drawing from Sunshine in that mario has a tool to use inside of said levels. It also seems to be drawing from both the galaxy games and sunshine in that you have a hub world that has its own secrets and level design, and that it itself travels to the places where mario goes, rather than just teleporting him.

I'm excited, i loved 64, i loved sunshine, galaxy 1 and 2 are both really good. I highly doubt im going to be let down by this one.

>>376808964
the wii u was a turd but at least it will be quietly forgotten.

on the other hand the gamecube produced many of the whiniest and most melodramactic fanbases: meleefags, primefags, paper mario fags, wind waker fags, sunshine fags

>>376809250
good goy keep falling for their traps

>>376809329
The explorable hub world isn't a thing from 64?

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I NEVER GET THE CHANCE TO POST THIS SHIT BUT I WANT TO THIS IS CLOSE ENOUGH

>>376799843
I'm looking for a nice medium between Galaxy and 64 for this game. like since they're going the open level route I do hope they can actually give them more substance and maybe even some challenge,something 64 lacks entirely

Paintings in 64 took you to imaginary painting worlds.

Paint in Sunshine warped you to different places that physically existed in that world.

Discuss.

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>>376809480
(Spongebob SquarePants reference)

>>376799843
>people thinking this will compare to the Galaxy games.
The galaxy games are pretty shit m8, they're all style and no substance, they make you think you're exploring big open levels but its just a bunch of piss easy linear hallways

>>376809421
It is but in 64 the secrets are levels themselves, when you explore the hub world in 64 you find more levels, in sunshine the secrets in the hub world are more varied i suppose. I couldve included it though desu

>>376809558
Mario 64 isnt canon

>>376809558
I want to paint Peach with my own paint.

>>376808217
I too am baffled

>>376809596
I suppose that's reasonable.

>>376808826
>gamecube was the fucking dark ages

>Path of Radiance
>Mario Sunshine
>Metroid Prime 1 and 2
>Smash Bros Melee
>Resident Evil 4
>Double Dash
>Thousand Year Door
>F-Zero GX
>Pikmin 1 and 2
>Wario World
>Eternal Darkness
>Luigi's Mansion
>Baten Kaitos
>Gotcha Force
>Killer 7
>Custom Robo
>Windwaker and Twilight Princess
>Animal Crossing
>Pokemon Colosseum and XD
>Chibi Robo
>Billy Hatcher
>Kirby Air Ride
>Wario Ware
>Cubivore
>Crystal Chronicles

>The dark ages
This is just off the top of my head too
The gamecube had shitloads of good games

>>376809347
Wind Waker saved Zelda from itself.

>>376799843
Is Rosalina coming back? Game may even be the goty of all aeons but no Rosa no buy.

>>376810034
So when are you going to list ONE good game?

>>376810147
I feel it would be faster if you told me what you think a good game is, because I find it hard to believe you don't think any of those are good.

>>376807561
why are they sirted kike that?

>>376810830
I assume you meant "why are they separated like that?"
And they're separated because one group is linear and the other isn't

>>376810036
it was a mistake that the series is only just now recovering from

>>376810147
he already listed resident evil 4, the only and only gamecube game worth caring about

>/v/ likes sunshine now
Nu/v/ and /v/eddit are going to lead to the downfall of this board

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>>376811165
>/v/ should be a hivemind
Okay, kidoo.

I dont want it to be like Galaxy. I want to BING BING WAHOO with buttons.

>>376811165
/v/ died in 2011 and you just proved to be nu/v/ reddit faggot yourself

Why are Sunshine fags so obnoxious?

The game was easily the worst 3D game in the Mario series.
Nothing about it aged well , most peiople didnt even play it, critics paned it.

Its cleatr how fucking good Galaxy 1 and 2 were because nobody sane ever said:
>Oh shit i wish they would make Sunshine 2

Gamecube babbies are triuly the worst nostalgia fags.
Every major game in the Gamecube era ( except for Windwaker and Smash ) were worse than the N64 and Wii versions

Sunshine <<<<< galaxy series
Double Dash <<<<<< Mario Kart Wii

GUYS WHEN WIL YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE WORST GAME EVER IS ONLY THE WORST GAME UNTIL SOMETHING ELSE THAT I THINK SUCKS COMES OUT THEN THE WORST GAME IS NOW THE BEST GAME BECAUSE OF THE NEW WORST GAME THAT CHANGES EVERY TIME A NEW GAME COMES OUT ALSO THE BEST GAME IS ALWAYS AN OLD GAME BECAUSE NEW GAMES ARE JEWISH SJW PANDERING REMOVING EVERYTHING THAT MADE OLD GAMES WONDERFUL

Galaxy and Galaxy 2 are fucking boring. They're only worth playing through one time.

I've played through SM64 50+ times at this point and there are always new ways to have fun. Galaxy is just the same linear horse shit over and over with stiff, slow movement mechanics and terrible wiimote minigames.

>>376809662

But it has canons, how can it not be canon?

>>376811640
SM64 is the only 3d mario game was better than Sunshine.

>>376811640
> Double Dash <<<<<< Mario Kart Wii
nothing you say can be taken seriously after this.

>>376811640
>more people liked it so it's a better game
Surely you understand the flaw in this logic.

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64>Sunshine>Galaxy/2>3D World

The 64/Sunshine style is best. All other opinions are fucking trash and I legit laugh at you retards that think 3D World holds a candle to any of the other 3D Marios. Talk about desperation to validate your wii u purchase, seriously.

>>376808991

Mario still felt like he had lots of agility in Sunshine, what are you talking about?

You can also slip and slide on your own water that you've sprayed. I am legitimately confused by your claims.

>>376799946
fpbp

>>376812005
Galaxies>3DW>64>3DL>Sunshine

>>376812141

Spraying water in front of you and sliding on it was practically a game in of itself. Used to see which of my friends could do the most/fastest laps on the later mushroom world in the sky (the one that's blocked by a pineapple).

>>376811089
By releasing the game most like Wind Waker since Wind Waker?

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SMG1/SMG2 > 3D World > 64 > Sunshine

The objective truth

>>376799946
This. Sunshine was the greatest.

>>376811789
Shit, i didnt think about that

>>376799946
Great bait. Sunshine is the Wind Waker of mario games.

>>376814698
So it's the best and most charming one? Yeah I agree

>>376814838
Name a single thing Wind Waker or Sunshine did better than its predecessors.

>but it's com-
Let me cut you off there. Name a single thing Wind Waker or Sunshine did better than its predecessors besides being comfy.

>>376813262
>SMG1/SMG2 > 3D World > 64 > Sunshine
Imagine being this delusional.

can you play mario kart switch online against mario kart players on wiiu?

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>>376814947
>sunshine
voice acting
>wind waker
a beautiful vast empty blue field

>>376814990
>delusional
he is just stating facts

>>376811640
>Gamecube babbies are triuly the worst nostalgia fags
they arent as bad as n64fags were a few years ago

>>376815096
bitch, galaxy is the stiffest, slowest moving, clunky, gimmicky piece of garbage ever. how does anyone find blowing mario around in a bubble with their wiimote enjoyable? it's like a fucking mobile game.

Games for people who like tight, fun gameplay:

64
Sunshine

Games for people who settle with mediocrity:

3DW

Games for being dazzled by bullshit and shiny colors:

Galaxy
Galaxy 2

>>376814698
sunshine is the tekken 4 of mario games

>>376800040
It's pretty clear there's no hub world in this game. The hat ship just takes you from area to area, which is good, hub worlds are an outdated concept

>>376799843
Good. Bottomless pits or voids are great for 2D, but they're unrealistic and annoying as fuck in a 3D game. I want access to a broad, contiguous, and vibrant world in a game like this.

The only good parts of Sunshine were the linear FLUDDless levels, and it's no coincidence the peak of flagship 3D Marios were four linearly focused platformers.

>>376815948
>but they're unrealistic
>mario game

>>376815451
Games for people who just like to jump around and try to do things in weird ways
64

Games for people who think tedious is a positive adjective for gameplay
Sunshine

Games for people who would rather be playing the 2D games
3DW

Games for people who enjoy platformers in general
Galaxy
Galaxy 2

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>>376815975
>the peak of flagship 3D Marios were four linearly focused platformers.
except only one of those 4 games outsold SM64.

so it's going to be better than the trash that are the galaxy games? great for me

>>376816159
>>376816159
This is 100% fact

As a platformer, the Galaxy games are far superior to Sunshine

But I guess all you need nowadays is "muh exploration" to be good

Sunshine had little actual platforming in it
It was filled to the brim with tedious obstacles like pachinko machines and IM A CHUCKSTER

>>376816080
>Games for people who enjoy platformers in general
>Galaxy
>Galaxy 2
holy shit my sides

https://youtu.be/FFlf0fTpjpo

>>376816159
>Games for people who just like to jump around and try to do things in weird ways
>64
>Games for people who think tedious is a positive adjective for gameplay
>Sunshine
Sunshine fits into that first option along with SM64. It has the best movement mechanics in a 3d mario, arguably even better than SM64.

>>376816320
>TIL the mario game that is literally 1/3 boring wiimote minigames is what millenials consider a "good platformer"

>>376816320
Wow because the entire game is like that right? Guess sunshine is nothing but poison rivers

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>Mexican level
>It's a desert

When this meme gonna stop? You can find places like this in Mexico but apparently whole Mexico is an ebin desert

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All of the 3D marios are amazingly goof you faggots

>>376814698
Sunshine is the dark souls 1 prepare to die edition STEAM™ version, of the mario games you pleb

does anyone know if you can cross platform mario kart between the switch and the wiiu?

>>376816575
>Wow because the entire game is like that right?
a huge amount of the game is like that, yeah. and the rest is almost as boring because of how slow and terrible the movement mechanics in Galaxy are. it's like they forgot that movement based around momentum is what made Mario fun in the first place, starting with SMB1.

odyssey gonna be mario64-tier for sure.

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>>376799843
>implying that's a bad thing

>>376799843
>LMFAO at people thinking this will compare to the Galaxy games. It's gonna be Sunshine-tier at best.

The Galaxy games are shit normie trash anyway.

>>376816583
fuck off Pablo. Go get some work at Home Depot

>>376816664
you cant

>>376816819
That's a disappointment.. Thanks man.

>>376800403
Better than Wii babbies.

>>376800403
going from n64 to gamecube taught me a valuable lesson

things can ALWAYS get worse

>>376799843
the fuck do you know?

>>376816697
t. Never played Galaxy
There's only like 10 levels centered around using the Wiimote
>the two rolling ball levels
>the manta ray levels
>a few of the bubble ones

Other than that I can't remember any others

>>376800040

that's literally what galaxy was

>>376815975
Those levels sucked because Mario had way less moves than he did in SM64 (no long jump, wtf).

>>376799946
FPBP

>>376803643
holy shit hotel dusk

>>376815975
>the peak of flagship 3D Marios were four linearly focused platformers.
The only one of those games that outsold SM64 was Galaxy 1, and just barely.

>>376807024
>fluddless levels exist
im not him, i think those stages were great and controlled well, but fludd was not the only focus of the game

>>376811731
This guy gets it.

>>376810830
Top one says "Course Clear Type 3D". Not sure what the bottom one says.

>>376815096
>taking off your trip to agree with yourself
shameful tbqh

>>376799843
>Sunshine-tier at best
Holy shit. I'm excited then.

>>376807561
>>376817951
Okay I just looked up the kanji for you. The bottom one literally means "Boxed garden exploration" which I'm going to assume is the Japanese way of saying "Sandbox exploration". So basically >>376810947 is right. Top is linear and bottom is roughly "exploration".

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>unironically being excited for bing bing wahooo in 2017.

mario hasnt been good since super mario bros 3.

>>376818598
Don't you have some FIFA to play?

>>376817573
Fludd is still the primary mechanic the game is built around.

>>376807561
Man after all that NSMB shit and all those linear titles I'm so glad they went back to sandbox style. It's still the best to me.

>>376818951
Totally. We need another 64 to come along and breathe some life into the Mario franchise.

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>Galaxyfags

>>376810034
>Baten Kaitos

Great taste my man!

>>376815908
I like hub worlds. What makes them outdated?

>>376819470

god i hated this level so much

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>>376819470
I miss when 3d mario games had actual movement mechanics instead of the slow, no momentum pussy shit galaxy and 3d world gave us.

>>376819732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9RmZILH8M4

>>376819894
That's not really the same thing. Zip exploits =/= good movement mechanics.

>>376819732
fuck sunshine forever

>>376814947

That's the thing they didn't do anything better. They did something different which is way more interesting and refreshing.

Super Mario Bros 2, Yoshis Island, Majoras Mask, Sunshine, and Wind Waker all took a chance and were more interesting because of that.

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Sunshine is the biggest blue-balling because its the best Mario has felt and the FLUDD was a great concept but the surrounding game in its entirety was super fucking unfinished.

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>>376800516

>>376819470
These 41 seconds are better than Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 combined.

>>376814698
>The best 3D Mario is like the best 3D Zelda
Fine bait

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>>376821604
>ywn play the original Spaceworld version of Sunshine with the train concept

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>>376799946
fpbp, /thread, etc.

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>galaxyfags salty that people like exploring levels to get stars rather than choosing a star and being on a set path + waggle shit

>>376799843
how is galaxy with a xbox controller? I don´t want to plug my wii on.

>>376799843
>implying galaxy is better than sunshine
Fuck off newfag.

>>376807503
No it's not. Nintendo labels it as course clearing 3D Mario along with 3D World. Therefore by /v/'s logic Galaxy/2 are not 3D Mario's since each stage is a linear path.

>>376800124
>>376799946
>>376800080
>>376800248
>>376800851
I too prefer my OPEN WORLD ubisoft games, fellow gamer!!!

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>>376828071
>galaxyfags

>>376808063
>best side character
Luma?

Shitty waifu bait to shove into everything is far from best.

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>sandbox Mario
>people are looking forward to 'Mario visits the same area 8 times where 90% of the level is insignificant except for 20 seconds of the actual mission'
>people actually like this over the level design of Galaxy 2 and 3D World

>>376828694
Still better than galaxy

>>376819470
Too bad the levels without Fludd are just a small portion of the whole game.

>>376821338
this

>>376828694
You had to revisit the levels in 3D World to collect shit, then do it again in the bonusworlds which are just the same levels only with less time to unlock the only somewhat challenging level in the game.

Fuck 3D World. It's good but nowhere near the other 3D Marios

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>when /v/ can't decide which opinion is the contrarian one

>>376830840
That usually means both games are incredible

>>376799946
Sorry anon, but 64 trumps all other 3D Mario games.

>>376825784
>Sunshine with the train concept

Hold up
the what now?

>tfw Mario will finally have cohesive worlds again

>>376810147
Name a good Wii game

>>376810147
Damn this takes being a contrarian to a new level

>>376799946
gamecube babbies strike again, i bet your favorite zelda is windwaker too

>>376833457
Wii genuinely has lots of great games,
its just that normies stopped playing games after Mario Galaxy, Wii Sports and Twilight Princess and assumed that was all it had

>>376821338
>Super Mario Bros 2

Not that hard to make a completely different game when it really is a different game. Doki Doki Panic is still good though.

Jap. SMB2 took a risk with its difficulty. I wonder why we never got it. Was NoA shit even back then?

SMB3 is also very different from 1.
Honestly all Mario games are except for New

>>376799843

Galaxy wasn't that good. Solid games, but not 10/10 games.

>>376833778
doki doki panic was created with mario in mind because NoA wanted an easier Mario than SMB2. That's why it plays so similarly to a mario game, because when they were developing it they knew that it was going to be localized as a Mario game.

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Let's just agree that all 3d mario games are fun.

>>376799946
F
P
B
P

I just want to be able to punch and kick again but it'll never happen

>>376808063
>actually a challenge after the end
>it gets good AFTER you beat it!

nintendo needs its own containment board

>>376833715
N-no!
It's Twilight Princess!!!

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>>376814698

>mfw people like Wind Waker near me

Don't even insult Sunshine like that. It's a lower tier 3D Mario but come on, it's better than that.

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>>376834272
same

>>376834538

That actually is my favorite Zelda, warts and all. Hard for me to call it the best objectively but fuck if it doesn't make me smile.

>dem hidden skills
>dem dungeon gimmicks
>dem little touches like the victory sheath or arrows bouncing off your unbrandished shield