Gonna be delisted on the 15th, buy it tomorrow before it's

>the music jew strikes again
fuck this gay earth

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>>376789191
>digitally lost for forever and eternity
>implying pirated copies won't be "sold" for years to come

Why is it removed?

>>376789191
can't they just remove the music files entirely?

I'm confused about what is happening.

Will the game itself be deleted from my steam library or will people just not be able to purchase it anymore?

>>376789386
Music licensing issues, but it's gonna be 3 bucks, plus discounts on the dlc and sequel.

>>376789497
Those who have it will keep it but it will no longer be available for sale.

REMOVE ALL KIKES

>>376789497
Just won't be able to purchase. Same thing happened to Vice City some years ago, and it was temporarily removed, before being added back without those music pieces. Maybe they will do the same for Alan

>>376789505
>years of being sold without a problem
>suddenly music license issues and it gets pulled

I'm sorry, what? Are these license time limited and applied to products post-production?

>>376789604
Yes anon.
It's a time-based licensing deal.
Very common shit.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GeSUvoY2oUk

>>376789497
not purchasable anymore from anwyehere, this includes xbl and psn. if you have the slightest interest in the game get it now, since i doubt remedy is going to pony up the cash keep the music kosher.

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>>376789604
Apparently
This could happen to any of our games, this is why physical releases are needed, remember scott pilgrim, may that game rest in fondly remembered pieces.

>>376789593
From what I understand, it's every single song license that is expiring, not just certain ones.

>>376789451
Yes, but it's too late for that, for now at least. They could just release it again months later, without the licensed music.

>>376789604
Usually you don't give a shit when the game is on a disc, don't plan on making more copies in 5 years, and the artist doesn't want the devs to loophole some shit and keep using their music without paying.

>>376789736
>this is why pirate releases are needed
Fixed that for you.

Licensing truly is the cancer killing the digital industry. I sure love having nothing but the first 8 seasons of a 15 season series on Netflix because EU.

>music licencing
music niggers need to fuck off

>>376789191
Good riddance I say

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>>376789736
>tfw indie games will never have this issue

>>376789736
>could
No anon, if the game uses ANY licensed music it's an eventuality, not a possibility. Same shit happens with movies too.

>>376789736
THIS

>>376789891
What show is it, and is it good.

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Why are american copyright laws so fucking retarded?

Let me guess, some fucking record executive jew decided he wasn't getting a big enough cut from Poets.

>>376789891
This, Piracy = Preservation.

>>376789451
Unfortunately, some key story points revolve around the music. The game wouldn't make sense without the songs.

>>376789191
well good thing I have my sweet 360 copy am I right?

>>376790008
Just about any show with enough seasons. It was only a trial period so I can't check specifics now.

>>376789736
music jews will stop physical too

>sorry goy but you must connect your console at least once to the internet to pass the jew inspection, don't worry it only takes a minute!
>oy vey this game has expired music
>you must download this patch to disable the music to play the game at all, else the console will not start the game.

>>376790015
>American
You should see the shit the EU and Britbongs have to go through.

>>376790015
>t. doesn't know EU or Brit copyright laws

>>376790015
>Why is digital distribution so terrible?
ftfy

>>376790015

>pay the required royalties to put music in your program
>"sorry, you didn't explicitly include Netflix in the contract 20 years before it existed"

>>376790141
>>376790186
Elaborate for a burger please

>>376789451
The game has cutscenes which are just video files, with the sound mixed on top. Muting the music would involve muting the voices and sound effects too, unless they still have the original audio assets in their seperated form.

>>376790280
I would think that the masters are preserved even if only to reuse just in case. Isn't that standard industry practice?

I'm torn, I loved the story, but American nightmare ceasing to exist isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Punishment for not making a sequel

>>376790427
it doesn't really matter because remedy has decided its just way easier to have a fire sale then to comply with whatever nonsense music issues have arisen.

>>376790494
american nightmare is unaffected

>>376789191
Shill.

>>376790427
Not at all. Entire source code frequently goes missing, let alone individual art assets. The Silent Hill HD remasters for example were garbage partly because the final source code had been lost, so they had to base them on bug-ridden beta code. Remedy didn't even bother re-mastering the cutscenes when the PC port first arrived, ripping the 720p videos straight from the 360 version, so who knows whether those assets still existed even then, let alone now.

Plus there's the cost involved of course, even if they do still have that stuff. Replacement music would need to be found and stitched in, with the video re-rendered and inserted. Probably not worth the hassle, financially-speaking.

>>376790227
Take American laws
and make them even worse

poets of the fall fucking suck

>>376790631
>Haven't played the game, but apparently it's good
>Find out it's gonna be removed from digital sale, making it harder to buy if physical copies are scarce
>Informing /v/ to play a good game before it becomes harder to buy it
What exactly is wrong with my reasoning in making this thread?
Inb4 "I can pirate it", buy it you jew

>>376790015
J E W S

Came here to see this. Collector's edition is 3.50 on bundlestars currently, but I'm a completionist cuck and I want to get the Nightmare game with it as well..

>>376790015
Walt disney, who i unironically believe was the worst person to ever join the entertainment business, paid all congressmen to create laws exactly like he wanted so he could fuck over anyone with creativity because of muh laws.
It them spread to other media.

>>376789287
Get out of here /loli/.

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STOP
KILLING
GAMES

>>376791106
The people that are running Disney now are far, FAR worse than Walt was.

>>376791106
It's ok to hate Walt Disney anon, he was pretty shitty sometimes. Case in point, the animator strike ordeal.

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>not using the money spent on licensing music to commission your own music so it's yours forever
licensed music is always corny bullshit anyway

>>376791106
>the worst person to ever join the entertainment business
That's not Sonny Bono

>>376789191
Hahahah no I wont.
Not sure re if it was a lake or AN OCEAN.
Deserved all the hate in my book,what a piece of shit.

>>376791314
That's a funny way to spell Bioware Entertainment
Yeah, it's a company, but point still stands

>>376789191
https://youtu.be/7M1k1tgq87g

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>>376791498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5iy46bsov4

If I already have a copy on Steam will it disappear?

>>376791584
no

>>376791584
no, it will still be there if you bought it, it's just not gonna be for sale after this weekend

>>376791584
if you already have the game you're fine. you just can't buy it anymore after the 15th

>>376791584
yes

Which licenced musics does AW has?

I remember the poets of the fall ones, but those guys are old personal friends of remedy staff and worked on Max payne 1 and 2, which helped solidify their careers. I really cant see they jewing the game like that

So is this supposed to be on sale? Wanted to cop but Steam has it as its regular price not the 90%off like everybody is saying.

>>376791563
Imagine if those two crazy old guys from the mental hospital came out and helped

>>376791769
probably mid day

>>376791707
its has a bunch of stuff that plays at end of each episode; roy orbison, bowie, nick cave, the coconut song, etc. i wouldn't count out poets though.

so what are the chances the 360 copies will become expensive?

>>376791707
Chances are that the owners of the songs' rights aren't the band/composers/performers but a recording company.

>>376791707
Tons, including tracks from far bigger artists like David Bowie, Nick Cave, Roy Orbison and Depeche Mode. Probably real expensive to license that stuff.

http://alanwake.wikia.com/wiki/Alan_Wake_Soundtrack

>>376791769
its suppose to be on sale from the 13th to 15th

>>376791769
it starts today (5/13) the sale probably doesnt go live until steam update time though (10am pacific)

>>376791769
Tomorrow at 10AM is when the sale begins, just 3 dollarydoos to buy it when the sale does go live.

>>376791769
Steam is pst based, store wont update for nine and a half hours or so.

>>376791850
Not at first, gamestop probably won't catch on to this and used or new copies will most likely remain the same low price. But then those run out, and the price of one being sold online skyrockets.

>>376791886
You can tell that this game was made when MS wasn't getting shit on and before the recession.

>>376791886
Well shit, son. Replacing that much music and extending the license for such big names must be outright impossible. It looks like they have no choice but to pull out.

>>376792027
You mean when they weren't releasing their exclusives on both pc and console at the same time? :^)

>>376791467
What exactly did they do besides make shitty games and be on the brink of a good old fashioned EA skull fucking?

>>376792298
Nothing besides what you said, I just hate them. If they have done anything else wrong, feel free to let me know.

While we're at it, what the fuck happened to Cryostasis?

>>376791671
>>376791685
>>376791691
Thanks

tfw gonna get it and get the soundtrack to it as well, fuck yeah. music industry btfo.
gotta love the streisand effect

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>>376789191
so why is this being taken down exactly? what's the story behind this?

>mfw I have my copy with collectors edition extras

>>376793123
Music licensing, that shit is expensive

>>376793123
The license for some music they used in the game is expiring and can't be renewed or some shit.

So they are putting up for a massive sale just before that happens since already bought copies can't be pulled.

Based devs. Are they great, or what?

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Usually it would seem like licensing stuff would be straight forward stuff, but it's always somehow complicated than it needs to be.
This is especially for music license. Remember that time when Youtube started taking down videos because of music license?

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/pol/ was right again

>>376791106
The irony is most of their properties are public domain.

>>376791246
this is why GH2 is the best in the series

>>376789736
>remember scott pilgrim
Oh shit what. I didn't even know that got killed.

Alan Wake has worse gameplay than Deadly Premonition

What's the point of building great atmosphere if you can't stop and appreciate it once in a while?

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>>376793308
/pol/ was retarded again.
Fixed that for you.

>>376793459
Bruh, it wasn't even the music on that, I think it was just the game license expiring. They didn't even put it on steam, it was console only, but if you find a download code you can still play it.

>>376789191
whhhhaaat the fuck man.

I'm literally crying.

Can you still download the game if you have it in your steam library, or do you need to have it already installed or backed up somewhere to access it in the future?

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>>376793589

>>376793741
You can still DL just not buy new copies.

>>376789736

this very exact thing happened with San andreas, fags. R* removed the expired music and kept on selling the game in spite. At least you can easily put down a fix to re-add that music. Not so easy when you pull the entire game out of market.

>>376793589
reddit pls stop shitting up threads. thank you

>>376789191
I mean that licensing issue is pure shit but then again so is the game. It's not a big deal if you miss out on it desu.

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>>376793746

>>376793824
Then stop shitting threads and leave fag lord.

This is why no amount of crocodile tears about piracy will make me feel bad about it.

>>376789736
>remember scott pilgrim
You can still pirate it on PS3. Customers lose, pirates always win

>>376789191
>can't store games in inventory to gift later
I'm getting tired of your shit Steam

>>376793912
I know they told you to reply with image macros and the copy paste the same argument as your "opponent", over on reddit. But again, pls stop shitting up threads. Its always the same with you

Don't care, if I ever want to play it I'll pirate it like any rational adult.

>>376793589
I don't think there's ever been a comic strip series posted on this website thats ever been funny

>>376789191
don't have the licence for the game , how is this even possible ?

>>376794094
>Not going in Calvin and Hobbes threads when they pop up on /co/
Your loss

>Steam removes option to stockpile games in inventory
>few weeks later this happens
fuck this

>>376794094
>never laughed, cried, and gasped in a Tails Gets Trolled thread

Is buying it now going to work? Wasn't there some shit with San Andreas where they updated to remove some music?

>>376789191
Just download it senpai

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>they didnt pay for an indefinite licence on music central to their game

Luckily the game is pretty mediocre.

>>376794306
Yeah. They're taking it off the shelves because they can't just shut off the music without fucking the game up basically. I guess it's embedded or something technical, it would be difficult and not worth the cost of doing if they even can do it.

>>376794063
You know so much about reddit, maybe it's time you go back.

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>>376794120

>>376794120
>because they make you seem even less pragmatic than the man you replied to.
Thats because they're just watchdogs, trained to "counter" at the first signs of any /pol/ activity, or what can be considered /pol/ activity(obvious unironical racism, bigotry, etc.)

A while ago some anon posted a reddit screenshot in which someone explained the tactic to someone else, "show presence when you encounter it and post image macros instead of replies or use the same replies as your opponent. Don't get upset and drawn in, just keep posting. Presence is all that matters" Or something like that.
Iirc the screenshot even said something about a folder thats provided for macros.

So don't be surprised when you see immediate anti-pol image replies once someone says something "insensitive" these days on /v/.

Will it be getting delisted on GOG too? Cause I got the original game on Steam and American Nightmare on GOG.

>>376794624
Or more likely some are tired of /pol/ morons shitting the place.

>>376794749
yes, it will be delisted everywhere on every platform. gone from steam, gone from humble store, gone from GOG, gone from xbox live. they are legally no longer allowed to sell the game.

>>376794793
Sure. I dont doubt it. But I dont think its more likely that a literal reddit screencap telling people to show presence.

>>376794837
than*

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>tfw got the alan wake humble bundle long ago

>>376794624
>Being offended on 4chan
Wait until they see the gore threads

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>>376794936
>tfw have physical collector's edition

Jews can't take this away from me.

>>376795162
was it DRM free or did it still require steam?

This sucks. Alan Wake isn't a stellar game, but it doesn't deserve this.

>>376795416

Honestly, the game needed more than three enemy types. Other than that I thought it was pretty great.

>>376793793
Alright, thanks.

>>376795162
Steam unforunately. I haven't bought a physical game that didn't come with a steam game in a decade. I remember scratching my head really hard back when Bioshock came out, which was, I believe, the first 3rd party game to be exclusively in Valve's demonic grip.

>>376795573
Actually I wonder how this works, will old PC copies that have yet to be registered have their steam key's disabled?

>>376795651
unlikely, that's never happened before with delisted games.

>>376795512
>>376795416
True about the enemy variety, but its still one of my favs game. It singlehandedly cured my tired gamer syndrome 2 years back.

>>376791850
The game was a 360-exclusive for many years before ported to PC and the price was never high.

Is Alan Wake good? Picked it up a while ago but never got past the first 30 minutes.

this has been sat on my shelf for the past 7 years
along with blue dragon and crackdown

might play it some day

I remember there being a lot of threads about it when it launched, never got around to playing it myself though, is it any good?

>It's not actually on sale
I guess it'll update in a couple of hours? I'm not paying 200 viking shekels for this.

>30 euros
nah

>>376790015
Japanese are even bigger copyright nazis

I always support companies that make a solid product. I pirate a fair bit too and can't morally justify it.

I don't feel good about having a good reason to pirate shit for the sake of preservation. It shouldn't BE a reason to pirate. But you look at all the digital content that just fucking disappears off the face of the Internet or only remains in low-quality low-resolution because for some fucking reason rights holders would rather it not exist than profit off it just blows my fucking mind.

is the game any good btw?

Man, they sure make pirating unappealing don't they? If I can't buy a game I'm going to pirate it.

>>376797110
It's got great atmosphere but it's repetitive

>>376796427
it like that for the rest of the 4 to 6 hours.
Seriously dont bother,its more of a look what our engine can do demo than anything else.

>>376797110

It's fucking shit. Cool atmosphere but it's just a third-person shooter where you kill shadow people and befriend a Big Daddy from Bioshock.

>>376796147
Same. Was in a rut with games like 3 months ago and I replayed it. The story just an enjoyable ride all the way through.

I may be bias because I love Stephen king shit, though,

>>376797178
To be honest, that's all I want out of a game anymore. I just don't expect a good game anymore because the likelihood that a company can figure its shit out enough to make a good game is progressively more and more unlikely nowadays. Look at the Souls series, they fucking crank out 4 fucking games and by DaS3 the only game felt "perfect" was Bloodborne, which somewhat carried over the same mechanics.

Not to mention a good story. So if I can get a good story and passable gameplay that doesn't want to make me throw the computer/console across the room I'm good for it. I love Witcher 3 and Nier:Automata but I won't tell anybody that the gameplay is anything more than passable.

>>376789191
So, buy a bunch of them and keep them in my inventory for later trades?

>>376797550
because nobody wants 30 dollar mediocre TPS.

>>376789191
Worth a purchase for a play through.

Poets of the Fall is a great rock band btw,

>>376797110
It's much better than Quantum Break at least

>>376789191
Already have Alan Wake on GOG, Steam and HumbleStore.

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Meh.

>>376791106
I'm pretty sure all the copyright bullshit started after Walt Disney died.

>>376797489
I just loved the ever present uncertainty. And the game pulled probably the best you are a patient in a mental hospital plot point I have ever seen. Plus the game is beautiful with the flashlights in a forest.

>>376797550
valve is getting rid of keeping gift games in your inventory soon so that is probably a bad idea

>>376789505

When will this sale begin?

>tfw didn't buy this on the last sale

>>376789191
But is it worth the dosh?

>>376799360
it's about to go on sale for 90% off, why would you regret not buying it yet?

>>376799453
oh, well then i'll pick it up then.

>>376795162
Jews have already taken over your mind probably.

>>376793798
God fucking damn it, cruising San Andreas just isn't the same without Killing in the name and Hellraiser on the radio.

How hard is it to find a physical copy? Iunni why anyone would want to pay for a liceanse

>>376795573
>I remember scratching my head really hard back when Bioshock came out, which was, I believe, the first 3rd party game to be exclusively in Valve's demonic grip.
Are you sure? My copy of Bioshock is powered by Games for Windows

Alan Wake is a piece of crap

you might as well buy one of the crappier Silent Hills that came after 4

>>376795162
I bought this on day 1 (pc version) and didn't get around to playing it until last year. Ended up loving it and regret not playing it sooner. Now from this news I love this collectors ed even more.

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>>376799779
just use the downgrader instead of playing the shitty vanilla steam version
http://gtaforums.com/topic/753764-san-andreas-downgrader/

>>376795512
>>376796147
>>376797489
>>376798865
My men, Alan Wake is one of my favourite games of all time. I remember when my dad(who's a huge King fan) bought it cheap for his console when I was at his place and we just spend the entire night playing it together and loving every single moment of it. I bought it for myself immediately when the PC version was released. Great story, great atmosphere, great music, it's probably one of the main things that made me a horror fan myself. I'm still salty that season 2 got cancelled and now this happens.

God damn it I hate how fucking everything is a part of great corporation moloch drowning in bureaucracy this days. Why can't things be just art any more?

>>376799779
Can't you just add mp3's of those songs to the folder for the Custom Radio station?

>>376800191
I would, but right now I'm replaying it on mobile version. I travel a lot and even with touch controls it's miles better than all those shitty phone games. So I doubt it's possible without heavily fucking with the game files via PC, which I have no experience in.

>>376790141
>>376790186
You're so full of shit.

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To anybody contemplating buying it in the firesale, it's a good play, but know upfront that it is NOT a horror game, it's a slower paced and more atmospheric third-person shooter.

what the fuck is music licencing?
isn't it same with movies?
i used your music, i paid for it. that's it.
do (((they))) remove music from movies too? what's the point of this?

>>376800382
Damn that sounds comfy as fuck. I am almost glad there isnt a sequel. Lately all the games I like get fucked up sequels.

Being open-world could've really made you comfy as a truck drivan sim, if you had to hop in your jeep and go drive to locations instead of teleport to them. Wilderness surrounding town could update to get spoopier as The Darkness took hold, too.

But the 360 wouldn't have been able to run it.

And I guess offroading wouldn't have as much pull as, say, GTA's open world filled with the opportunity to carjack and run over pedestrians. And people would bitch about crashing their car against a tree and being stuck out there like a dumbass who wrecked his car against a tree...

>>376800649
Usually I would agree, but they releases some videos of the unreleased sequel few years back and they looked pretty damn great. And seeing how ambiguous the ending was I would really like to see a continuation. On the other hand, Twin Peaks gets a reboot, so who knows, perhaps they will ride the wave?

>>376800932
>wanting to turn a good story game into an open word faggotry
I would prefer you left this thread.

I heard that this is going to be 90% off. When is that happening?

When is the sale in europoor times?

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I haven't read thread. Can someone just tell me whether it's full of right wingers sucking copyright law dick? Thanks

>>376802019
Quite the opposite, is anyone actually supporting these greedy fucks?

>>376801843
Problably at 18.00 CET. Same thing happens with the sales.

NEw Remedy project, "7", is coming in a couple of years, published by 505 Games

>>376800617
>i used your music, i paid for it. that's it.
You'd be very dumb to let someone use your music in their product forever for a one time payment, unless you're getting a tons of money upfront. It's a lot cheaper to instead negotiate "I'll pay you $X to use for the rights to use your music in my game for the next Y years," Until digital distribution took off, that'd be fine because few games are popular enough to get reprinted after a few years (and there they could renegotiate and pay more money if needed), and the licensing wouldn't matter for people buying second-hand copies of the game. Hiring people to make music for your game's soundtrack avoids this issue, because you count as the copyright holder, so you can obviously approve the music being put into re-releases, remakes, sequels, and so on. Rockstar has enough money to pay for licensed tracks on GTA games' radio (with the exception cited earlier of San Andreas getting a few songs removed), as does EA with the music in their sports games, but most game companies aren't as big as EA or Rockstar

>isn't it same with movies?
Movie studios have tons more money than most game companies, they could afford "I'll pay you $X money and I can use your song in my movie forever" type deals, or agree to give them a share of the profits. I wouldn't be surprised if the big movie studios negotiate for access to an entire music label's library, instead of a director having to ask permission for each song they want to use.

Going out of production in a couple of days

Still trying to Jew the UK out of £23

Fuck 'em

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>>376790138

>>376804614
He's right though

>>376789191
Shame, the game was good with the exception of the copmbat system
Too bad they chose such a dumb time for the launch

>>376789191
You forgot to specify that it sold at -90%.

It's 13th and the sale isn't active yet.

>>376790071
No, they are actually patching it to remove the music.

>>376805762
Steam doesn't update for another 4.5 hours. It'll probably go on sale then

>>376801050
Originally it was meant to be open world and I agree it would have been better for it.

>>376789191
It wasn't scary,fun or interesting in my opinion. A complete wank fest to Steven King, who's an alright writer. If it was marketed as an action adventure I'd be more kind on it. Not an awful game but simply boring.

You must be honest with me. Are these any good?

>>376802140
Libertarians and ancaps do it like its their day job. Apparently critical thinking is a violation of the NAP.

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>Shit game removes itself from steam

>>376807241
Open world always loses grip on the story, which is why a lot of people din't like Niko in GTA 4. In a different game, he's a good character, but when he stops talking about his misery and goes on to rampage throughout the town, it loses its force.
Or the Skyrim example. "This massive elder dragon is going to destroy the world. You don't have much time!"
Several in-game years later, everything is still the same.

>>376789191
Man, this game was fucking awesome.

>>376807297
Sounds like the issue is your expectations, not the game.

>>376807363
First one is pretty cool on all points except combat.

Will the original music remain on copies already bought?

>>376807363
Great if you want a good story and/or are a horror/thriller fan. Meh if you want to get it just for the gameplay aspect.

>>376809653
Yes.

>>376789702
My nigger

>>376799103
>10 a.m. PT on May 13
According to Polygon