When the fuck Adventure 3 is gonna happen, I WANT IT NOW I HATE

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>>376759323

It's Sonic '06. Which you oddly seemed to miss on the left side of your image. Fix that sometime, why don't you?

>>376759490
>>376759490
I just want Adventure 3, twas my olden childhood :(

SA1 and 2 were never good, fuck off.

Source: person who played them growing up.

I just want a Chao Garden app.

>>376760860
you're wrong, fuck off

>>376760803
You don't want Adventure 3, you just want Chao Garden you fucking autist.

>>376759323
Did the person who made this not understand how turning works? Holy shit, they have to be fucking retarded.

>>376760995
They are buggy and janky as hell. The camera is awful and the game feels like a russian budget title.

They were fun for the time, back when you really didn't care that much about the problems.

>>376760860
The Adventure games were the smoothest controlling and some of the best platformers of the yesteryears

I am RIGHT with ya OP! SA:Battle 3 needs to happen ASAP. Chao Gardens. Next gen speedy speed action. That's it. It's time to STOP fooling around.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/qEm7ubJtRsdHugTvDvLnqA/

autism

pure autism

>>376760860
SA1 and 2 were really good, fuck off

Source: person who played them growing up

>>376761057
I'd love to play stand alone Chao Garden without having to play City Escape/Wild Canyon for rings and drive/animal farming.

>>376761125
>>376761169
How about those Tails/Eggman/Knuckles/Rouge/anyone who isn't Sonic stages, huh?

>>376761223
fuck you

>>376759323
Adventure games were clunky in their own way as well.

Get over it.

>>376761223
Tails and eggman great action stages, had a nice flow to then to add some variety to them but they aren't that great overall

Knuckles and rouge were a bit slow and tedious I admit but only the latter stages were offensive but I just say fuck it and use hints anyways. SA2 isn't a perfect game but I get lot of enjoyment but I prefer SA1 overall though anyways

>>376761305
How? They had smooth responsibv controls, you just had to adapt dude

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>>376759323
fuck yes, people downloading my OC and making threads<3
this is a fucking movement guys, we gotta force this meme HARD

>ITT Babies who can't deal with the fact that their nostalgia game is shit
Come the fuck on. They're fucking garbage. I grew up with them and I realize it. I know SA2 is baby's first Sonic game, but you need to grow out of it,

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>>376759323
Please just go back to Facebook. The Sonic Adventure 3 Facebook page needs its ringleader back. Go be offended by Big's Big Fishing Adventure 3 somewhere else.

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>>376761609
>smooth responsive controls
>smooth
>responsive
>controls

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>>376761789
>>376761762
get the fuck out of here crippled BOOSTFAG

>>376761930
You know you have to turn your body to go the opposite direction, right?

>>376761928
Yes, this is pretty much the case for the Adventure games.

>>376761930
>crippled boostfag XD
>crippled boostfag XD
>crippled boostfag XD
>have I forced this shitty meme down your throats enough yet? XD

Someone is going to find your social media accounts and make an ED page and a collection of your autistic posts. I hope you understand this eventually.

>>376762165
Do you ever hear your parents cry at night? Because they are. They're ashamed to have you.

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>>376762119
>2016
>unironically having social media accounts

No one can honestly defend the Adventure games.
>shit graphics
>buggy and broken
>everything that isn't Sonic is absolute ass minigame-tier shit
>the music of SA1 isn't even good; only SA2's soundtrack is good
>horrible lipsyncs
>horrible voice acting
etc.

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>>376762165
God help this guy. he did the same thing here
>>376756430

>>376762274
Judging by his autism, he seems like the kind of person who would have multiple social media accounts to bother SonicTubers about how they want SA3, only to be ignored or blocked.

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>>376762304
>>376762260
eat shit, I hope you fall in your sleep and poke your eye out with your bed table and bleed to death.

>>376762405
i don't though

>>376762508
Autists like you should be tortured to the brink of death. Kill yourself, faggot.

>>376762508
So you have no retort to any of these points >>376762304

>>376762508
Sure you don't.

Next you're going to tell us you don't have autism, frogposter. :^)

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Thanks anon

Yesterday it was quite a shitty day, but you are giving me a good chuckle with all this autism.

I hope you can have what you want someday

It will probably will be shit and I will laugh even more

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>>376762670
:^3

>>376759323
Your fucking image actually explains why the Adventure games control like such ass at high speeds.

Good job.

>>376759323
>When the fuck Adventure 3 is gonna happen,
when the story gets figured out.

>>376759323
11 years ago.

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>>376762571
>shit graphics
no1 care about graphics
>buggy and broken
HEY I'M GRUMP! I'M NOT SO GRUMP! I bet the camera bothers you so, so much.
>everything that isn't Sonic is absolute ass minigame-tier shit
treasure hunt stages were very fun. fuck you.
>the music of SA1 isn't even good; only SA2's soundtrack is good
i like both desu.
>horrible lipsyncs
this does not affect gameplay.
>horrible voice acting
this does not affect gameplay.

happy boostfag? back to your temple run reskin

this autist thinks any complaint about 06 is just being repeated from GG

dont even bother arguing

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>>376763135
But why?

Even by most adventure fags standards, 06 is an abomination.

This thread's convinced me that Adventurecucks really suck at memeing.

>>376763560
It also shows us they should go back to Facebook and jerk off to Ryan Drummond voice clips.

>>376763039
This is either autism or trolling. Thinking GG is relevant to anyone over 14 is a clue towards Autism.

Assuming trolling though.

Shadow The Hedgehog's as a game plays similarly to the adventure games. Has improved shooting mechanics compared to SA2. You have the Tornado sections from SA1 as part of the stage and so on.

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>>376763135
obviously I do this for my own entertainment.
I giggle like a little girl every time I get to accuse someone of being a grumptard. It's very funny for me and I will not stop. thank you. I didn't even like 06 that much man, but it certainly is way better than any boost game out there.

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>>376763716
/v/ loves game grumps 1/3

>>376763862
Holy shit kid what teh fuck are you doing with your life

>>376763660
They can stay here and do that, they just need to realize their fucking place in this new world.

Until someone who can program actual physics and knows actual level design cooperates with the Sonic World dude, and they make some cool fucking shit, Sega's never going to up and hire them to make the game they want, the way they did for TaxStealth with Mania.

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>>376763716
/v/ loves game grumps 2/3

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>>376763716
/v/ loves game grumps 3/3
now shut the FUCK up, I'm not bullshitting

>>376763946
>gets proven wrong
>asks me what the fuck I'm doing with my life
gr8 b8 m8 upvoted hehe swag ! I'm gey ! haha it's time to stop vape naysh !! e-celeb !

>>376764146
I sincerely hope every girl in your life rejects you and gets fucked by a chad. You deserve it you fucking autist.

>>376759323
Isn't momentum the most important thing in good platformers though, which both Adventure and "Boostshit" lack?

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>>376764243
but i have a T H I C C white nationalist boyfriend. we cuddle every night

>>376761223
I liked Rouge/Knuckles but Tails/Eggman is kinda inferior to Gamma.

>>376759323
What you've just described is that adventure has shitty oversensitive controls. There SHOULD be a turning circle.

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>>376764498
this is much better to control than this
>>376761930
in a 3D environment.
I don't with harm upon anybody because you're a human being right, and you have a family and all that. but I hope you fall off your stairs and break your ribs, and get some non vital organs pierced so you bleed to death slowly. no hard feelings though. like I said, you're a human being.

>>376764737
I don't wish* harm upon anybody because you're a human being right, and you have a family and all that. but I hope you fall off your stairs and break your ribs, and get some non vital organs pierced so you bleed to death slowly. no hard feelings though. like I said, you're a human being.

>>376764737
>the slightest bump of the stick drastically changes your direction
indefensible.

All these injury and death threats from this autistic is making Shadow blush. Incredible.

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>>376764816
Ikr, there is no arguing.

>>376764867
autism chan is just doing this so his ED page gets funnier when it inevitably gets made

thus far he has given a different death wish every time he wishes death upon someone, it's unique

>liking the sonic adventure games will become undefendable because of that anti-boostfag autist
hugh...

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>>376765163
Include me in the screenshot!

>>376765109
Why does Sonic have a yaranaika face?

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>>376765305
Because he's going to fill Amy with his baby making cream.

>>376765305
No idea, but I found it well placed in the context.

>>376765109
Why did he get 100000 rings for marrying amy?

>3D Sonic
>Good

Thanks for the laugh

fight on adventure-sama.
you are doing the lord's work.

>>376765793
I dont mean any harm because you are a human. But i hope one day when you are walking to the grocery store you get run over by an islamic attack truck. No hard feelings though.

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>>376765873
thanks for the support man. eventually people will join me in creating OC I hope. with an arsenal of anti boost propaganda to blast in every sonic thread we WILL fucking win this war.

Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 aren't good games.

You can like them. That's fine. Go nuts. There's parts about them that I like too.

But they really aren't good games.
True story, I took a game design course in college
>Game design course
Yeah, I know, waste of cash, hur dur, lesson learned
But I went there, and no joke, they literally used Sonic Adventure 1 as the main example on how NOT to design your game.

>>376766369
Are you legitimately, doctor diagnosed, on the autism spectrum?

>>376766657
And how did they present their case? What about it makes for bad game design?

>>376766657
Time to explain. Other than the cheesy story there's nothing about the game that's so bad that it would be worth making a case study for.

>>376766725
>>376766817
>let's throw as many ideas into the game as possible
>who cares about making sure they play well

SA1 is LITERALLY a glorified tech demo for the dreamcast

>>376766369
There was no war. It's just you shitting up every Sonic thread with the same exact shit. When I say go back to Facebook, that's the sign that tells you to go back to Facebook. Nobody wants you here. You are a complete sperg. Stop it. Get some fresh air, child.

>>376766369
You do realise that "Gradually turns 120º" is incorrect right? Your math is completely off, you're looking at the inverse angle rather than the actual angle starting from the positive y axis and seem to be completely ignoring the fact that you're still just turning 90º. Do you understand how angles work at all? Because currently you're just proving you're a literal idiot

>>376766920
Like, I already get why it's a bad game, and I agree with the sentiment. Was just wondering what the major bullet points they went into were.

Just those two points?

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>I HATE CLUNKY 2D
Oh really.

>>376767015
I'm not that anon btw

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>>376767001
idiot, boost is 30degrees up relative to adventure
relative motion, very basic physics

>>376767248
Oh, my b. I'm legitimately curious as to what all they'd get into, and if that'd line up with all the problems I have with it's design.

>>376766725
>>376766817
There were two main things we talked about, one wasn't specific to SA1, but was hugely endemic of a lot of 3D games of that time period, and that was player control in relation to the camera.
There's lots of times in SA1 where Sonic very clearly has to, for example, make a sharp left, but by the time that left occurs, the camera ALSO makes that left, meaning the player has to keep the control stick pointed forward in order to keep on the path, and if they hit left, Sonic will fall off the stage because the Camera is also moving left and control is always in relation to the camera. False player signals, basically.

The other thing was how the levels are basically diametrically opposed to themselves.
Take the quarter-pipes in the first beach level. You want to go fast, and the game wants you to go fast, but there are a lot of points just off the main path, at the bottom of those quarter-pipes full of rings and power-ups and stuff. So you want to go fast, but if you do, you'll blow right past all the stuff you want.
So it's a game where the basic controls and the overall objectives indicate speed (You get timed), but the level design wants you to take it slower and grab power-ups.
This is even worse in any stage that doesn't star Sonic, where all the characters still control like Sonic, but the objectives force you to go slow and observe your surroundings.
It's bad player signaling, and bad game design overall.

>>376767460
You're describing the angle of displacement in arbitrary 3D space, which is not useful for anything. You should be talking about the facing angle of the player.

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>>376767040
>that feel when the fanbase is now filled with people who don't like the classic Genesis games

>>376767719
i want to keep things simple on my memes for normies to understand. it's propaganda. I want to provide a clean, bite sized, catchy message which is easy to understand. that is the purpose of the original image in the OP

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>>376767893
>tfw Sega finally doesn't really care about them anymore and our time as finally come

>>376767705
Oh, ALSO

FUCKING ALSO

BIG THE FUCKING CAT.
We had an entire fucking HOUR devoted to BIG THE CAT.
WHAT THE FUCK WERE THE DEVELOPERS FUCKING SMOKING.

>Hey, you know this game where we're aiming for speed and fluidity of control? Let's have an entire section dedicated to being completely stationary. And let's make that part necessary to beating the game.

I mean, I know nobody likes Big The Cat anyway, but seriously, what the fucking fuck. Big The Cat is 75% of the reason why that game is garbage.

>>376768019
But it's NOT easy to understand because you're displaying irrelevant angles that mean nothing useful

>>376768080
Not that autist, why can't we have peace? your time this time, ours the next !

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>>376768080
>mfw sonic team gets replaced with and becomes taxman team
>glorious 2D sonic games forever

Our time has finally come and dome it feels good...

>>376767893
I know, it is surreal. People don't like what originally made Sonic good.

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Aint no autism like sonic autism

>>376768150
mate
what's so hard to understand about sonic ending up 30 degrees ccw above adventure in the OP?
it means the physics are different.
same inputs are sent over the same time period.
end result = different angles away from the initial position.
I could have written x,y points instead of angles and it would be the same fucking thing.

>>376768348
The only ones against peace at this point are the Adventurefags. Classicfags and Boostfags ought to be perfectly complacent now.

>>376768535
You're using angles in a context where they're not relevant. Nobody cares about the top down view angular displacement, they care about how fast it takes for the player character to turn into the angle they want.

Turning circles are not inherently bad, they're intuitive. When you run in real life, your movement has a turning circle. Same with driving. Oversensitive "instantly change direction" in a game about running is objectively bad design.

>>376768732
Nah, boostfags are done with the series. My friend got into the series with sonic rush and was sad to see the boost console games circle down the drain with each game after unleashed. After seeing footage of forces and how it looks like sonic colors, he abandoned the series.

Sega only cares about us classicucks now and its fucking fantastic. To the point where they are sabotaging their own console games by putting in a chinese bootleg classic sonic...! Priceless

>>376768787
but if i wanted to do a turn circle, I wouldn't send inputs ^ and >.
I'd send ^ (everything inbetween) >
you don't understand that SA gives you full, true control to move wherever the fuck you want. and this is why it's better for 3D platforming. This is not real life. This is a game. Realism is not good in this case. It takes away control from the player.

>>376761930
Is this the new barneyfagging?

>>376769026
t. never made a game before

>>376768963
My friend was sad to see the boost console games circle down the drain with each game after unleashed
You're friends with Unleashedfag? Thought they were a girl.

>>376769195
I meant a friend in real life, but i have her (unleashedfag) added on xbox and yeah we talk sometimes, shes a girl alright.

>>376767705
What a bunch of pathetic losers. Really sucks someone didn't shoot up that place in that point of time

>>376762304
I would even think about the other points (never formed a thorough opinion on it, though I do like the games) if I could be arsed to as of now.

But kindly fuck off on calling SA1's OST bad.

>>376762304
>>376769708
Actually, fuck, I like more songs in SA1 than I do in SA2.

>>376759323
You want to know what else has instant 90 degree turns?
Sonic 06 but your autistic ass won't admit it is Adventure 3 despite having every detail about being an adventure game

Takashi Iizuka never made a good game

>>376769364
ppl tryna copy adventurefags death wishes now

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>>376770110
hey im grump

>>376770246

I'd say he was very involved involved with NiGHTs into Dreams, but considering he directed Journey of Dreams and that was complete garbage, it's probably safe to say the first game was probably good in spite of him rather than because of him.

>>376770246
>Sonic Jam
>Sonic Adventure
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Sonic Heroes
>Shadow the Hedgehog
>Sonic R
>Sonic Rivals
>Sonic Rivals 2
>Nights: Journey of Dreams


Jesus, what a terrible resume

>left

Jank ass controls that are unituitive and result in you going all over the place

>right

Inertia and momentum.

>>376771152
>Inertia and momentum.

The only Sonic Games with Acceptable Inertia and Momentum are Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic 3&K, Sonic CD, Sonic Advance 1, and now Sonic Mania

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>>376771361
this

>>376770110
It was a different engine, it was buggier and felt clunkier despite having similar controls. They didn't copy the controls effectively.

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>complaining about having momentum in a game about speed
The games on the right have objectively better controls and are straight better games than the ones on the left.

Kill yourself.

>>376771361
don't forget Pocket Adventure

>>376771749
>game about speed
don't unleash the typical autistic beast. Next they are going to say "Sonic isn't about speed!"

>>376768732
>peace
>adventurefags have basically nothing

The only thing the Director (Shun Nakamura) of Sonic 06 directed before Sonic 06 was Sambe de Amigo for the Dreamcast.

What were they thinking giving their best series to someone with so little experience, I can understand why they put Iizuka on the Sonic Rivals series instead of something bigger after Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog, but they must have had someone with a better resume than a Rhythm game, right?

fun fact no sonic games are good

>>376759323
>>376762831
>>376764373

OP is retarded, Adventure 1/2 don't have instant turns at high speeds and they are momentum-based games.

The turning angle is just a lot sharper than in the boost games. In fact, it's pretty much perfect.

>>376772001
what do you expect from a platformer where the worst parts are the platforming? Sonic could only pretend to be Mario's rival when in reality Sonic was riding on his coat-tails pretending to be a platformer mascot.
See the state of Sonic once Sega stopped making consoles.

>>376771918
Yes, that's why they're going for war. They're the neglected child, jealous of our luscious gifts. They wish to either take them from us, or destroy them, so that we are stuck not having fun with them.

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Who is worse: this new Adventure autist or Unleashedfag?

>>376772182
>has nothing
>is supposed to be the shitlord for not being happy with it
You can hardly blame us senpai.

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>>376759323
If you care about Sonic in any way shape or form in 2017 you have severe autism.

>>376772296
No, I mean I get that you didn't ask to be in that boat. I'm just saying, you're in that boat, and that boat is why we can't have peace. Because those in the boat can't have it.

But if we're serious for a moment, even if all 3 major chunks of the fanbase got exactly the games they wanted, consistently, on a regular basis, there would still be shitposting by everyone against everyone.

>>376761190
This, that would be awesome!

>Hirokazu Yasuhara, Lead Game Designer/Director for Sonic 1, 2, 3, and Knuckles
>Map/Level designer for Sonic 3D Blast and Sonic R

>Left Sega to help design Jak II, Jak 3, and Uncharted 1
>Now at Nintendo Software Technology doing absolutely nothing except helping design Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move.

>>376768494
DON'T

>>376772063
i know. there is like a 5-7 degree difference relative to the 90 degree line on the graph, but I kept things simple for my meme

>>376773330

And thereby opened yourself to ridicule and (uninformed) counterarguments and ruined the point you are trying to make. Retard. From your image it clearly looks like the boost games have the better controls, when in fact your graph for the boost games is more like what the adventure games actually are, while the boost graph should be FAR more gradual.