is this overwatch really that bad, or does /v/ just hate

I like the porn

It's a nice casual shooter. /v/ is just mad like always

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/v/ hates it because it's popular. It's a good game for sure, not the second coming or some shit, but it's solid and can be a lot of fun with friends.

A little bit of both.

casual nerd bait

it's a good game but the player base is shit. Not really Blizzard's fault, any popular game is going to have those problems.

It's a good game but not a good competitive game
Unfortunately they're doing nothing but push competitive and waifufaggotry

>>376755575

Solid 7/10 - it's probably overhyped to hell but I wouldn't say it's bad. Good mind-numbing fun to have.

Its overrated.

Its a worse tf2, but its being hailed as the greatest game ever because it was well marketed.

2 casual 4 me

>competitive FPS
>60 tick servers

choose 1

but hey it's okay that they're using 60 tick because it's better then the 20 tick servers they used at launch ROFL

>>376755575
/v/ just hates popular things, dont listen to /v/ it has shit taste and runs on bad nostalgia.

It's just not fun. Half the characters in the game seem to be designed to accomplish nothing but piss other players off with how obnoxious they are to deal with

It's an "okay" 7/10 kind of game but faux-nerd faggots jerk off over it like that dogshit Hearthstone just because it's an ActiBlizz game.

It gets old very quickly.

The maps are all shit, and I'm not exaggerating.
Character balance will always be a joke, and I'm not exaggerating.

If you don't have people to play this with, don't even bother getting it. Just save your money.

>>376756164
Same thing happens with ASSFAGGOTS

Half the game is just countering the bullshit of a particular character the enemy picks.

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>get to 3300 several times
>every single game that would have gotten me to break 3400, i get the biggest mouth-breathing neanderthals on my team and lose 10 games in a row

i strictly play offense carry heroes like soldier, pharah, and reaper.

i thought dota pissed me off with retarded teammates but overwatch takes the goddamn cake

Play Battleborn instead of Overwatch xD

It's okay but the tiny-ass 6v6 format is fucking poison, you can't even QP without everybody spouting wannabe-esports garbage.

>>376756371

>carry heroes
>reaper

You are where you belong in the rankings.

>>376755575
It's garbage. It's like Skyrim, Bacon, Marvel movies, etc. Garbage for the masses

>>376756371
>i strictly play offense carry heroes like soldier, pharah, and reaper.

Yeah, I'm sure it's all your team mates fault

Pretty bad if you want a competitive fps game. Overwatch is designed to appeal to casuals and plays more like a moba than FPS.

>>376755575
It's bad
>Poor map design that's recycled other maps of the same gamemode
>incomplete characters, but still somehow have abilities that overlap other characters
>slow movement with huge hitboxes
>lack of options in any situation
>stale meta that's used from scrub to pro
>half the cast is deemed unusable by the community
>gunplay is weak as fuck with stupid shit like McCree recoiling not effecting your crosshair and every gun handling like a pea shooter

>>376755575
/v/ acts like they're all hardcore gamers and believe they're amazing at every game ever made, but in reality, they are the most casual teenagers to ever walk the earth and every one of them plays overwatch.

>>376756089
How is it marketed please, show me , I only only knew of the game coz a friend , its fun af with my friends

>>376755575
It's a fun game but probably half the heroes can do well with no skill at all (probably why it's been so popular though)

The overall theme is nice and it's a fun game, but they definitely need to nerf the characters who can do a lot with no skill at all (Rein, Mercy, Soldier, Junk, Pharah, Road, Bastion, Torb, Reap, DVA)

little of column A, little of column B

>>376755575
>popular
>15+ min average queue time
Hahaahahahaahahhaha, No.

>>376756858
Also, the red outlines and floating health bars above everyone makes stealthy movement and any sort of sniping shit. Everyone pretty much has a big target on themselves

>>376755575
It's fun to just play a couple of matches when you're bored, they go by fast enough that you don't really have to commit time to it. Ignoring the cancerous competitive aspect, the game does well what it sets out to be, a fun, casual shooter. It's easy to get burnt out on it if you play it for hours, which I have no idea how people stomach.

>>376756954
>>15+ min average queue time
This is a lie and is just stupid.

>>376755575
It does some things exceptionally well but as far as skill-based gameplay goes it's utter crap.

Quite literally half of the "abilities" in the game are a zero-game that either take no skill to use (press E to deflect everything in front of you for 3 seconds) or they nullify the enemy's ability to do something (move). Which almost always results in them instantly dying, which the game is supposed to punish you harshly for.

It's horribly broken and if you know anything about the mechanics of a game it just gets more irritating the more you play it but if you're a pedestrian that just wants to be a cowboy and shoot the space gorilla then it's for you.

>>376755575
I like the game its fun, but it has some major flaws
Balance is one of them

>the same 3-4 characters have been top tier insta picks since the release of the game since their Kit is way too fucking good and a must have: reinhardt, lucio, genji

>most of the offense heroes fit into any lineup
>every single character in the "defense" bracket is unusable garbage since release
>reaper is literally useless by design if they dont rework his kit

At least the supports are mostly preference and the tanks are all decent

>>376756973

It's not like you can be stealthy or snipe comfortably in any of the decent maps anyway honestly.

The maps in this game are a total joke.

2 capture point is some of the worst gameplay I've ever had to play in a video game, and I've been playing games for 2 and a half decades.

If you lose the first point early, you have to defend the second one for 8+ minutes. It's not fun or exciting at all because it condenses the game's core mechanics down to the smallest amount of "fun" and it LITERALLY becomes "take potshots at each other and hope and pray your team uses their ultimates better than the enemy team" and "defense will stall the last point with shitty abilities".

It's the WORST thing.

>>376757527
>genji

no

>>376755575
It's a great casual shooter. It's casual enough to where the entire game doesn't just revolve around the meta, but it also requires just enough skill to where it can reward good technique.

The problem with /v/ is that they like to pretend they are some extremely gifted top 3% skill bracket professional gamer, and will scoff at anything that is anything more casual than the original Unreal Tournament.

>>376757550
You can definitely blend into the background or be on roofs, around corners, etc in any game. The problem is the big red outline and health targets make it so you always catch a persons attention regardless of whether or not they're paying attention

>>376757579
Genji has been top tier since release and still is a tier 1 pick

>>376755575
It depends on what you want to do with it. Shitty competitive game, but good for casual games with friends.

>>376755575
During the beta, I dismissed overwatch as a clone of tf2, and assumed since blizzard was developing and they only make dice games, that it would be bad.

One day a friend my mine got it for her ps4 and got me to try it.

It was pretty fun so i bought a used copy for my ps4 at gamestop.

>>376755575
Sure, Overwatch is a popular franchise and IP at this point, but no one actually plays it anymore. Even when events happen, there aren't actually that many people it seems. When that rising mode came out, it took me like 10 minutes to find a game.

It's kind of like what Diablo 3 went through. 1-2 months with a lot of players, but then it got less and less. After 5 months, Diablo 3 had 0 people in games (until they patched enumerating player numbers through the matchmaking and channel auto joins).

Blizzard games seem to die out real fast for having such a strongly marketed force and so many people on the hype train.

What's a good competitive shooter?

Is anything with classes pretty much pointless to look into?

>>376757943
>fps on console

Disgusting

>>376758018
>no one actually plays it anymore. Even when events happen, there aren't actually that many people it seems. When that rising mode came out, it took me like 10 minutes to find a game.


This is just stupid and a big lie.

>>376755575
It's casual shooter that caters to lowest common denominator.

>>376758123
it gets better, i play with a TAC pro and own a high end pc i don't game on

>>376758136
Hey, whatever makes you feel good. I'm just saying how it is. You're looking at 20 minutes of qeue in EU prime time just to find a game for ranked, that takes 6 minutes to complete. If it wasn't for skins and the instant gratification of a loot box, people would've stopped playing it months ago. That's just the reality of it.

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>>376758294

>>376758294

>here explore this FPS game!

ok.

>>376755575
The game by itself is a quite enjoyable online shooter. The problem is, with the amount of content it has I wouldn't pay even half of price they want for it. And they not only want lot of cash for it, but also lock all the cosmetic content behind paywall. TF2 might have tonnes of microtransactions as well, but at least the base game is free, you either make the game f2p with microtransactions or p2p without them, making people pay for both is full jewery, especially when the game has so little maps and content in general. The gameplay is not bad, but the game sold itself on esport meme, gambling with chests, waifus and shills overhyping it, which makes it pretty much an epitome of what's wrong with /v/idya today.

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>>376758373

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>>376758467

>>376755575
I can definitely respect the character designs. 20-something characters and their only fuck-up is Orisa. Everyone else looks great.

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>>376758394

ok.

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>>376758552

>>376755575
/v/ hates it because it's popular and most likely because they're shit

>>376755575
>be GM
>get incredibly bored and let it decay
>open the game up
>im all the way back to 3100
kek

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>>376758652

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>>376758749

>>376755907
>fun
Fun is a buzz word people use to describe why a game is good with out providing any actual reason.

>>376755575
overwatch posting should be banned because only underage play it

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>>376758839

>>376755575

Its an FPS with a skill ceiling so low you can only get into it on yourh ands and knees

Games that limit your actions to 4(or less?) hot keys are garbage and have no lasting value. You've played one game you've played them all, unless you really want to try out another character. so maybe you get like 20 matches out of this game

>>376755575
its fun, and popular so of course /v/ will hate it, you know cause /v/ is supposed to be all hardcore and stuff

>>376758668
How exactly can one be shit at Overwatch? The skill floor and ceiling are one in the same.

Jesus christ barneyfag, I get that you're bored, but stop.

>>376758043
>What's a good competitive shooter?
Don't exist anymore.

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>>376755575
You're waifu is a lesbian.

>>376757620
Every shooter can be a casual shooter
OW removes everything fun in exchange for dopamine highs fir retards everyone they press an ability or get a lootbox

>>376755575
The game itself is fine, the player base is aids. Escpecially now that more casual fans are leaving and it's just try hards left.

It was fun for a few games. If I had to play Blizzard games it wouldn't even be near my top choice.

>>376757527
I do fine with torb and junk rat. But I only play quick play now.

>>376755575
>le tf2 clone
>le casuals
>le tf2 clone
>le blizzdrones
>le tf2 clone

/v/ is a shell of itself

>>376756858
Half the characters you listed are garbage.

>>376759504
Literally everything works in QP

Except for dual sniper, that is even too fail to work in QP

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>>376756627
>plays more like a moba than FPS.

Holy shit the mental gymnastics it must have taken to reach this conclusion would be staggering to see.

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I would have no problem if the game took no skill to play as a whole. The problem is that it combines characters that require skill with ones that don't, and it becomes ridiculously unfair when you play Pharah and have to make hypercalculated direct rocket hits and dodge constant hitscans while Junkrat can stare at someone and instakill them with LShift+Mouse2.

>>376757527
Reaper would be more useful if:

>his teleport didn't stun him and take a million years while also making a big red fountain followed by "I'M RIGHT HERE" audio cues
>he didn't stomp around like he's wearing boots that are 5 sizes too big
>and his wraith form provided an actually significant speed difference

But blizzard is afraid of making characters that can actually be good in ways that require players on both sides of the fight to git gud, so that's why they made Sombra useless trash.

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>>376756589
I like all that though, I guess that means its hot garbage

>>376759240
>Implying dopamine highs aren't fun
>Inb4 But it's not REAL fun

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>>376759158
Not really seeing the problem

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>>376759076
Wtf did you just type?

>>376759803
He literally is

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>>376759803
Nice meme and all, but just look at recent tournaments and stats.

He is a tier 1 pick right now.

He was a tier 1 pick at release when he had oneshot combos and tripple jump

Maybe he was not tier 1 somewhere in the meantime?
But he sure as hell is right now

>>376755575
Overwatch? more like Overrated. LMAO

>>376755575
Latter

Also because of an irrational fear the game is promoting diversity

Lame spinoff of tf2

All I know I got bored of it after a couple of months.
There's something very bland and superficial about it.

>>376759994
Genji fell off after he got nerfed and the Tank Comp Crept up.

>>376760047
Someone had to do it though. TF2 was great and someone needed to take a shot at surpassing it.

The only thing it lacks is constant support from Blizzard in the form of new content.

>>376759909
It's lazy crack addict entertainment

>>376760210
And right now he is meta again

It's fucking TF2 before hat faggotry.

In other words, it's really fun.

Say what you will about TF2, at least having 9 focused classes with very specific roles and comparable usefulness made it all feel like a cohesive experience. Slight variations came later in the form of optional weapon sidegrades, but the overall feel and effectiveness of every class remained the same.
In contrast, many Overwatch heroes are too specialized to be of any use outside very specific scenarios which occur maybe once per game. Some classes are simply superior to others in 99% of situations, especially in 1v1 combat. The crappier classes make up for it with situation-dependent skills and Ultimates. The result is two 'castes' of heroes: Those with consistently dependable usefulness in matches, and those who exist purely for momentary dopamine rushes.

There's a more cynical side to all this. Blizzard has successfully created a multiplayer skinner box, where every player feels potentially useful to his team, despite this very evidently not being true. It tricks your brain to keep playing until you hit that jackpot when you suddenly get a chance to utilize your class's abilities (usually the Ultimate). And hey, if it's not coming fast enough, there are another 20 heroes for you to pick from...
Everything about this game, from the "Play of the Game" system, the map pacing, to the way overtime and victory/defeat conditions work, they all reward and encourage short moments of individual exceptionalism instead of match-long high performance. With time, people start to realize which classes actually hold a team up and secure victory, and quickly the "21 heroes" facade crumbles apart.

Its a 6/10 for me
>It's gameplay is in an awkward spot where its faster than most of the shooters today but slower than it's arena/class based shooter counterparts like TF2
>No standout maps since it's hilariously unbalanced
>"Meta" is a boring tank+healer borefest while experimentation is now ostracized because of the "professional" scene
>Community is cancerous as fuck (inb4 anon saying community doesn't matter in scores since it's a multiplayer game :^) )
>The only thing it has going on is that it's better than all mediocre shooters today but cannot hold up against CSGO's balance and longevity

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>>376759994
>Sombra more frequently used than Junkrat or Orisa

This is literally a lie.

>>376760290
As opposed to sophisticated heroin addict entertainment?

>>376759717
Isn't he right? I never saw a fps game where teaming up for 4-6 Q presses was more effective than clicking heads while jumping.

>>376760398
As opposed to a game with some actual substance.

>>376760380
I wouldn't doubt it. Junkrat is situational and Orisa really does need a buff.

>>376760380
No its tournament pick rates and sombra after the balance changes is actually decent in a well organized team

Orisa and junkrat are not.
You would never ever pick orisa instead of the mandatory reinhardt

>>376755575
>or does /v/ just hate it because its popular?
If you're the type of person ready to dismiss someone's opinion as contrarianism, you're not really willing to consider dissenting viewpoints.

But to answer anyway, I didn't like the designs or by-the-number art style, so I didn't bother to buy it.

>>376760398
Adrenaline entertainment
Speed, risk, technical depth, emergent gameplay, strategical depth, etc.
Everything that has been gimped or removed from OW takes these away unless this is your baby's first FPS

>>376755575
It's not even bad, it's just excruciatingly boring. Even Paladins is more fun, despite being leagues more janky and lame.

>>376760550
>Junkrat
>situational
what

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>>376760601
What exactly changed about Sombra?

I'd love to play as her because she's literally my favorite design but fuck, she's useless.

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>>376758373
every moba in a nutshell

>>376760609
If there's one place where contrarianism is a valid criticism of someone's opinion, that place is /v/. People in this place most definitely dislikes things based on popularity.

>>376760748
Health kit hacking is no joke

>>376760748
They sped up the hacking if i remember correctly, but it was more than that

She is still meh, but can do work in a well organized team.

That ofc means she is still garbage if you play with random people no matter how high your rank is

>>376760748
People realized that she's the ultimate counter to Zen.

>>376759994
Poor Bastion. He got a rework, was actually good for a week and then they sent him right back.

Nobody cares bout Sym.

>>376760923
Its funny how people on the forums are crying for sim and pharah nerfs because they wreck in the gold bracket

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>>376755575
In terms of gameplay it's pretty shallow until you get to the "I officially have no life and do nothing but play this game" ranks.

It's a good game if you don't take it seriously and play every once in a while with friends. It's pretty easy to play while shitfaced too.

Depends on the player. I think its well suited for the casual player that just want to have some fun with their friends.

If you are more into competetive shooters, the game will be a very frustrating experience for you.

>>376756805
different guy but how do you not know how the game was marketed? it was fucking insane how much marketting went into the game

>clueless gamer featuring the cast of game of thrones
>jimmy kimmel
>giant figures in hollywood
>tacobell promotion
>razer promotion

thats easily half if not more the cost of making the game

>>376760983
Pharah nerfs would kill her dead for sure. If anything, she needs more HP or armor or something. She's Soldier's bitch right now and always has been.

Sure, she's invincible with Mercy around, but hero synergy is good and there should be more of it.

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it's just the next evolution in the casual FPS team based faggotry

from quake and cs1.6 to the trash that is CoD and Halo to the shit out now, it's to appeal to normies by making an easy game with zero skill ceiling

same reason mobas are popular and RTS, arena, and fighting all died- normies cannot stand losing and improving at games. they want to win and watch ecelebs.

>>376761209
Please try and guess - how do I know you are a redditor?

>>376758848
you seem like an angry person

>>376759954
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like

>>376760210
he didnt fall off that hard, he was basically the 2nd dps character you would pick after a primary DPS like mccree soldier or pharah. he literally has the best ult for reliably wiping teams.

his ability to just go behind teams and lodge shurikens into the enemy's backs and build ult for free is what makes him good

It's fucking awesome with friends. Solo it gets boring fast.

>>376758848
fun is a word people use when they enjoy the product, you should try doing it some time

>>376759076
Because the shitters who stick to single player JRPGs decided to try a FPS put for once.
https://youtu.be/bfbRXGePhfU

>>376761285
you're the fucking redditor if you play this game

redditors love casual trash and hate games that requires skill since they're braindead numales

you really think a redditor or a nu-gamer could play street fighter third strike or quake and get slaughtered over and over and mocked for it and deal with it and get better? no. they want to 'win' with some shitty team in a garbage assfaggot or casual FPS game

>>376756954
Why u lying nigga i never waited more than 2 minutes and usually i find a match in <30 seconds

>>376761206
Give her 50 hp of regenerating shield, make it her Raptora power and tie the jetpack to it.
This makes her able to survive hitscan pros and decent defenses while also giving casual players an actual shot when fighting her.

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>>376761463
>call someone a faggot over text chat in OW
>get banned

Like it or not, the days of trash talk in online games are over.

>>376761463
More proof that you're a redditard.
Please, try to guess how can I tell.

I found it mediocre with a good design and excellent marketing. Not really my type of fps, granted you could call it fps, I found it more similar to a moba.

I am quite annoyed by the fact most of my friends with a ps4 just play this all the time.

>>376761458
>shitters
It's probably 5-6 years old kids and mentally/physically challenged people playing it.

lol, my 10 years old cousin mains genji and he sucks really bad. People have this really weird idea that everyone on the internet is near their age

I dislike it because it forces you to play with a team, who may or may not give a shit about winning, who will also give you shit because they don't like the character you pick, and because Blizzard is absolute trash at balancing which promotes the attitude that useless fucks would rather troll or throw a game because of it.

I dislike it because mobas are fucking shit games that appeal to shit kids that lack the attention span to invest in something that takes longer than 30 minutes. They are soulless cash grabs that lack substance and effort, and I hate the self important, pretentious faggots that make them. This goes to Blizzard too for appealing to the lowest common denominator.

>>376755575
People see that game as a FPS and evaluate it thinking to other fps but it's a much different game. It's not only about aim, it's mostly about combining all the elements of the game to a winning combination.
And it's casual and /v/ hates fun.

>>376761706
the "le reddit spacing" meme right, even though I format my posts like this since I've been on IRC channels for a decade and have always written like this

btw reddcucks use two newlines, I only use one

>>376761871
No, not that. Keep trying, though.

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>>376761458
Wow.
These people are even worse at the game than my dad.

>>376755575
>appeal to casuals
>plays more like a moba

Pick one

>>376762081
I'm not going to beg you for your le reason. You're acting exactly like a redditor btw. Smug, condescending, plays shitty games.

>>376761209
You are right to a certain extent. Stating there is zero skill ceiling is just wrong on the top level of competetive play. I think its way more complicated than you realize. Except overwatch and hearthstone where its shit.

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>>376762214
>Getting this triggered over being called a redditor
>Knowing what a redditor looks like

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>>376755575
This is why they hate it

/v/ hates people having fun

>>376755575
it's basically a shooter arena with a dota style of heroes that has almost all FPS skills dumbed down for the casual audience, it has an awful map design, horrible tick rate and a hornshoed competitive scene

>>376755575
I thought tracer was going to rewind time and take the bullet for the Robo-Gandhi.

Overwatch is a very poorly designed game, and it all boils down to ultimates. If you watch any high level plays, all they do if they need to capture an objective is to wait for a bunch of ultimates to pop up and just shit them out at once.

This, combined with the fact that the only maps that aren't hot garbage are KOTH, makes me fucking hate this game. Being a defender and having to run upwards of 30 seconds to get back to the point you're defending IS NOT FUN

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>>376761682
>called people niggers numerous times
>threatened people with bodily harm numerous time
>had people tell me I have just been reported for this numerous times
>this has been happening for months
>Blizzard hasn't done jack of shit about it

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It's fun when you play it casually, community is shit, competitive is Q economics, characters and design are visually appealing, even a shitter who can't aim like me can still be useful on a team, some games can be frustrating due to matchmaking, waiting times for joining matches are all over the place, dedicated devs, jew publisher, nice porn

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>>376755575
>Attempts to play quickplay
>DEFEAT
>DEFEAT
>DEFEAT
>Let's try competitive instead
>DEFEAT
>DEFEAT
>DEFEAT
>Fine, I'll just try some arcade modes
>DEFEAT
>DEFEAT
>DEFEAT

>>376755575
It's good but it's very shallow and can get boring quickly.

>>376763336
The worst part is that Blizzard clearly rigged the matchmaking to make you lose even more in Arcade mode so that you get loot crates more slowly, forcing you to spend money on them.

So many horrible things about this game can be traced back to the XP system. Like how you can't have friends on the opposite team.

>>376763336
This, holy shit, I've gone on 3 hour long play sessions in arcade with no wins

>>376758848
What is a good game to you?

>>376763336
The new Quake is even worse with this shit. Holy FUCK the losing streaks you can get in that.

>>376763494
Hell, even in HOTS you can just play Vs A.I. to get daily rewards, its barebones, but its soemthing

>>376763552
See >>376763494
Blizzard should be fucking sued over this shit.

>>376758467
>comparing chess to video games
>when even the most basic of video games are extremely more complicated.

You'd think with Chess and Go being dominated by simple machines at this point that would be obvious but NOOO people must talk about their "high IQ" board games they probably suck at.

>>376763494
you can have friends on the opposite team

>>376763589
>>376763336
>>376763494
>be bad at game
>loose at lot because you are bad

What does your nu-male brain rationalize that you cant possibly be shit at the game and it must be rigged?

>>376761727
>good design and excellent marketing
I love people talking out of your ass

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>>376759919
Seriously?

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>>376763880
Not him, but I'm perfectly fine with it.

>>376763632
>no XP gain on custom servers
So what's the point in playing, then? You hit the skill ceiling super fast and there's no scoreboard that shows you increasingly dominating the competition; loot becomes the only impetus to continue playing.

>>376763670
No you can't. The game forces people in your group to either be on your team or spectate. And you can't join a friend's game as a non-spectator without joining the group. The only way to play against friends is to join one of their games in progress and hope that one of the enemy players leaves at some point in the match.

>>376755575

I hate it because I can't play it (still banned from all Blizzard online properties).

it's a great game. /v/ hates it because

1. contrarianism is a 4chan trait
2. they are ass at the game, aka, haven't gotten gud so they got their panties in a bunch

>>376764007
What did you do lol

>>376763767
>defending Blizzkike
I'm afraid the nu-male here is you, pal.
The very presence of the XP system gives them plenty and obvious reason to get as much money out of it as possible by fucking over the playerbase. If anything the burden of proof is on YOU to prove that it ISN'T rigged, since the alternative has plenty of evidence supporting it.

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>>376759919
>That highlight intro should have been for mei

Yes, i'm still mad

>>376764078
>/v/ doesn't hate harder, objectively better designed games like battlerite, counter strike, quake 3, unreal tournament
>but /v/ hates hard games
Fuck off retard

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>>376763336
>>376763494
>>376763552
>>376763636
>>376764152
> I'M NOT BAD, I'M AN FPS PRO, THE GAME IS JUST RIGGED TO KEEP ME AND ME ALONE DOWN
> WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE'S SOMEONE ON THE OTHER TEAM WHO KEEPS WINNING AND GETTING THEIR LOOT BOXES

There are people on this very board who unironically believe this shit.
How fucking pathetic can you get?

>>376755575
It is bad.

But I have fun with it, and don't hate it.

>>376755575
It gets boring and repetitive after a week

It needs more map and modes

>>376759994
tf, why is Bastion and especially Sym so low?

Bastion is definitely usable as both forms now, and Sym is good in general.

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it's pretty fun, and it's just as fun to shitpost at the zealous fanbase. they beat the soulsfags when it comes to relying on "git gud" non-arguements. the speed they "spot bronze players" at is truly impressive :^)

7/10 as a game to me, 8.5/10 if with a few friends

>>376764152
SOMEONE has to be winning, because this game is a two fucking team game. For every time you lose, someone wins.
If you're losing more often than you're winning, someone is winning more often than they're losing.

the game is mediocre and the characters are really shitty. just imagine tf2 but with lesbians and no soul.

>>376763992
>You hit the skill ceiling super fast

people keep flinging this argument around
you can only claim to have hit the skill ceiling if you have made it to top 500 at least once
if you haven't then clearly there's some skill left to aquire

it's like watching Gold Novas complain about how CSGO sucks and is a terrible casual version of the "tru CS"

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>>376755575
It's alright, but it loses its charm quickly. I played for a month or two.

>>376755575
>does /v/ just hate it because its popular?
No, no, no, no.../v/ hates it because they're bad at it.

>>376764152
>If anything the burden of proof is on YOU to prove that it ISN'T rigged, since the alternative has plenty of evidence supporting it.

Might aswell ask me to write you a 50 page paper on why the earth is not flat

>>376764454
>the speed they "spot bronze players" at is truly impressive :^)

welcome to every single competitive game

>>376755575
It's just a shallow shooter. No more, no less.

>>376755907
This. If you can overlook the autistic fanboys and "muh competitive" tryhards, it's a genuinely fun shooter with a charming design. Especially with friends.

>>376765461
>hey guise check out my false equivalence!
We can see the Earth from space. We can travel around it in a straight line. Meanwhile no one except Blizzard has seen the code for their matchmaking system, nor have they seen the drop rate numbers for the loot.

>>376763767
>play comp
>team compositions are based around team and enemy picks
>have an understanding of a situational pick and don't fucking around on a single character the entire match
>play QP
>team instantly picks roadhog, widowmaker, genji, 76 and some other shithead character
>if I go healer we don't have a substantial tank and they'll steamroll right though the team
>if I go tank we don't have a healer and they'll outlast us in a fight
Quickplay is the worst shit. I got to masters in comp and the matchmaking still manages to find these retards who absolutely refuse to switch characters.

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>advertises itself as a FPS game
>it even advertises its competitive background
>has aimbot, wallhacks, triggerbots in the game
>there are characters that just have to hold down one button and walk around to do damage, regardless of where their crosshairs are pointing at

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>>376755575
As a shooter, look at the hitboxes and shallow mechanics
As a comunity, look at their market tactics and how it keept it self together
As a game, look at the constant rebalances and changes because comunity rages.
As porn material, they are clones of existing characters but with minor changes, totally naked and you could tell unless it has like that robotic arm.
being played means the market wants something like that, for the moment...

>>376765703
How did several people climb from bronze to GM on smurf accounts then?

If your hypothesis was true everyone would either drop or stay at the rank they started at.

And climbing is very well possible

>>376756371
>buy game
>get to lvl 20
>set at 2900, reach 3100 playing D.va, Mei and Lucio
>start listening to teammates for "meta" picks
>fall to 2600

I'm back to 2900 again, but holy shit are platinums insufferably arrogant and bitchy. I'm done with taking advice from mongoloids.

>>376763767
>>376764268
You're acting like Overwatch is an actually good shooter where you can carry a team and have control over the match's outcome rather than a mechanically neutered pile of shit where you're mercilessly at the whim of your teammates and just one fuckuping idiot will irredeemably sink the game for you no matter what.

>>376766049
>all that rationalizing because you suck at a game and your ego cant take it

what the fuck happened to matchmaking

the other day I suddenly started getting opponents that were considerably more difficult to play against than usual

It's hard to sit back, relax, and have fun when everyone is tryharding like shit and you actually have to try

I dont think ive died to somthing that wasnt an insta gib in a month.
hanzo scatter from down town made me rage quit last night.

>>376764392
i think its because sym pretty much becomes useless against a good organized team that actually prioritizes her ass when it comes to killing enemies

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>>376766170
All those non-arguments.

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>switch over to PC overwatch from ps4
>having a tonne of fun getting use to my new controls
>never want to play on a controller again
>start getting gud
>rank increases

If you're good at the game, you WILL increase in rank. Play a carry hero (mine was Zarya) until you aren't in gold/plat then you can expand your talents into other characters.

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Dropped it after they got rid of random brawl.

>>376764392
But why would you ever use bastion instead of soldier?

That bastion is not played doesnt mean he is literally useless, but there is a way better alternative competing for his slot

Soldier is just super good right now

>>376766526
You didnt exactly start with any arguments either

Should i know demand a peer reviewed paper from you that proves that you cannot solo carry games, as you claimed first?

>>376766742
Random Brawl was ruined by the incorrigible dreck that was This Is Ilos. And if you wanted to play a Brawl that wasn't a coma-inducing stalemate fest well TOO FUCKING BAD, you gotta do what the Blizzard machine wants.
Yet another reason why Valve are infinitely superior, they give you CHOICE.

>>376766526
Who's on the enemy team then?

If the game is PvP, and you keep losing, that means the people on the enemy team are winning. Which means they're getting EXP and loot boxes.

Has Blizzard worked out advanced AI to create convincing fake players just to beat you over and over? Are they hiring innumerable legions of slavs and pajeets?

Or are you just the sort of person who can fire at the ground and miss?

>>376767276
That and justice rains from above. Hurt my wrist once on that mode trying to keep my mercy aloft.

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>>376767631
>that brawl
>pick Pharah and make a Mercy harem making all your rockets one-hit kills even with splash damage

Good ol days.

24/7 push maps for casuals because objectives are too difficult and doing anything but pressing forward + spamming the shoot button is too hard

>>376755575
I think the game itself is pretty good, but the absolute worst thing about it is the community. The Overwatch's community is worse than the one League of Legends has, which brings in the meta slaves, "hey dude let me (popular hero someone else picked) i'm better than you", "omg u picked a non-meta character i will report you for troll pick" and other shit, not to mention that not having a scoreboard leads to shit like people thinking that they are the only ones doing something while everyone else is losing them the match.
Overwatch's community also a shining example of why racism in multiplayer vidya is wrong, because you get people from the developed countries acting worse than BR monkeys and Russians.

>>376768198
Isn't the whole point of the game to switch out and change characters based on who you're playing against?

>>376755575
both

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As a game goes, it's strictly worse TF2 with a strictly worse community, which is really saying something

BUT it's not bad, but not really that great, either. Map design is awful, and characters feel like they're easier to play versions of TF2 characters. If Valve didn't fuck up TF2 and if it wasn't by Blizzard, it would be on par with Super Monday Whatever Whatever and that one Chinese TF2 clone.

>>376763558
For me, it's the McChicken

>>376755575
It was good in beta and the first 2 weeks but was ruined when they forced in competitive. Now I rarely ever touch it because I don't play to have 14 year olds scream at me to play "meta" like some cuck.

>>376763767
what does white nationalism have to do with this?

>>376755575
It's not bad. It's just not that good of a game as folks made it out to be.

>>376760323
???
but the tank meta died

>>376760323
>playing csgo

fucking kek

>>376758848
If a game being fun isn't an "actual reason" to be a good game, then what are you searching in a videogame?

>>376770701
tits, waifus, story, sony, everything instead of >Fun

>>376770769
wizardry

>>376755575
Its a fine game. For some reason /v/ has this hard on with hating the game to the point where they'll make up shit or bash it while having the most shallow ignorant experience with it.

That said, like with all games a lot of it can come down to personal taste. It might not be your type of game, but it is by no means bad.

It's fun but I'm already done with it after 20 hours. 6v6 means there will always be a competitive try hard who loses his shit because you play a character that's not useful enough even if the game mode is quick play. Not a single map feels fun to me except maybe for Hollywood and the Egyptian one but they still don't feel fun and solid.

Half of the characters are considered useless (every defender) in competitive if you play in a high rank. The game feels so limited in content and every match just feels the same and unrewarding no matter if I win or lose. I can barely remember any match that was fun and different except the one time I was in a bantz with the McRee on another team and wrecked his shit. Too bad that's something everyone in the community gets super sensitive about.

With blizzard their typical balancing ideology and streamlined gameplay it won't pull me back in again. Tf2, tribes, quake ctf and rtcw et provided me thousands of hours of fun and had amazing memorable moments maps while this game just makes me nervous about the next upcoming torture.

I'm probably just getting old and tired of competitive video games.

>>376756104
What are the tickrates of the servers in the competitive games you're talking about? CSGO and Quake use 60Hz servers.

>>376768387
Yes, though in competitive people generally go with optimal comps. That said, there are some heroes which aren't ideal or require a high amount of skill to use effectively. Since the game is a team oriented game, if one person goes with a hero who either isn't optimal for the situation, or frankly is under powered at the moment and doesn't effectively counter something on the other team, you can wind up dragging your team down.

That said, MOST heroes are indeed viable in most situations, but again sometimes you need to make up for it with individual skill. Even then however, if the other team counters you, you're in for an upward climb.

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>>376756318
>maps are all shit
>Oasis
>Route 66
>Lijiang
>Numbani
>need i go on

>>376756371
>lose 10 games in a row
you gotta stop yourself and take a break after 2 losses bro. it's a rule that's kept my sr up pretty reliably

>>376771260
>alf of the characters are considered useless (every defender) in competitive if you play in a high rank. The game feels so limited in content and every match just feels the same and unrewarding no matter if I win or lose. I can barely remember any match that was fun and different except the one time I was in a bantz with the McRee on another team and wrecked his shit. Too bad that's something everyone in the community gets super sensitive about.


This isn't true. There are characters considered useless, but its mostly the snipers and other characters which require more skill for the player to pull off. Every other character has niches they can fill and it varies depending on what you're up against.Hell, even the useless characters have niches they can fill if they're done well. The only really problematic ones tend to be either underpowered characters, or characters that don't fit in the comp or are countered by the enemy comp.

>>376771308
All CSGO private leagues and LAN competitions uses 128 tick servers

>>376756954
you must have been put in a penalized pool or something faggot

>>376771308
Is that the same as the servers connected to the ingame matchmaking?

>>376759158
>choosing absolute worst girl as waifu

>>376771907
meant for
>>376771770

>>376763767
>>376764268
Then why is the win rate so drastically different between Quick Play and Arcade, even on No Limits where the game functions almost identically? Why is it 50/50 in QP but 20/80 in NL? Could it be the latter has extra loot bonuses that Bli$$ard wants to stagger?

>>376755575
It's not infested with weebshit. How could /v/ like it?

>>376771907
In game match making servers are 64 tick.

>>376766010
Just get to diamond. It's pleasant pastures there and ppl don't worry too much about what the other faggots pick.

>>376755575
>is this overwatch really that bad

No, its not that great either. The poor is good though.

I've played it too much. It's really only fun with friends now.

>>376755575
Yes

>>376756954

HAHAHAHA you either live in a third world shit country or got reported so many times that they have to stick you in the back of the bus with all the other retards and brazillians

>>376759919
I hate her fucking Dreamworks face. What does it signify? What emotion is it meant to represent?

>>376759994
Just a reminder that this image is old and inaccurate.

>>376758848
>all these baited newfags

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>>376772267
What is your objectively superior choice, then?

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>>376766526

No, one person can't possibly kill enough people so that objectives become easier to get.

one person can't possibly turn the tides of a fight with a well timed ult.

I bet you think you deserve to be in diamond and you could easily get it if you just had friends who could play(carry) you.

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>>376768696

>strictly

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>>376755575
It's not bad, it's just a sterile, safe, casual genre fusion that doesn't bring much to the table

Although nowadays that's as good as it gets for FPS games

t. shooter expert with several thousands of hours in shootans

>>376773013
>No, one person can't possibly kill enough people so that objectives become easier to get.

Genji and Widowmaker specifically excel at this, but most other chars can pull it off if you're skilled enough.

>one person can't possibly turn the tides of a fight with a well timed ult.

This is literally the purpose of ulting, can be done, has been done, and frequently happens. Even moreso if you combo ults with someone else, but if we're talking single people, there are plenty that can do this when used well.

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>>376773723
Play the game if you don't believe me. Or if you can't be assed, watch a PoTG. That whole function literally highlights can highlight all the stuff you're acting like can't happen.

rate my drop faggots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M-PnoHgdMI

>>376755907
>can be a lot of fun with friends
Tell me ONE game that is not fun with friends.

>>376774098
Single player games.

>>376773723
>enemy team is capturing a point, but your Sym has a teleporter nearby
>after just killing your team, they now have to deal with all of you again, at full health

>enemy team wipes you out, leaving only two of them alive
>Mercy revives everyone, now it's 2v6 again

>enemy team rushing
>Genji comes from behind or Pharah from above, presses Q and kills their charge

Ults are game turners almost to the last.

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>>376773573
>>376773838
>>376774328

>>376774507
>I was only pretending to be retarded

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>>376760318
>The result is two 'castes' of heroes
Are you a fucking "Symmetra"?

>>376760318
>optional weapon sidegrades
That shit hasn't been true since the first Medic update, and it sure as hell isn't true now.

>>376760889
Aside from EMP putting him near-death, I don't see how she's a counter to Zen.

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There's something that overwatch lacks compared to TF2. Something important that made TF2 special for months unlike overwatch who got stale fast.

>>376775386
Player autonomy.

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>>376774823
Did somebody say Symmetra snek?
http://wrenzephyr2.deviantart.com/art/OverAnimals-New-Temple-Guardian-641294666

Remove:
Genji
Mei
Hanzo
Roadhog
D.Va
Symmetra

There, Overwatch is actually a fun game now.

>>376775386
I'd say its more the reverse. OW has a bigger emphesis on teamwork, while TF2 basically allowed people to do whatever the fuck they wanted.

Also TF2 had custom servers which let people customize the game easier and select the maps they wanted. But more importantly, TF2 was simply out longer and has more to it at this point.

>>376773573
You damn near need an ult to have a high impact as a single player, otherwise you're barely going to have a solo impact. This is like the main reason I prefer something like CS over OW.

>>376775950
You honestly don't need for an ult to have a high impact. But it largely comes down to your individual skill and what the enemy team is running.

Genji and Widowmakers are excellent examples that can absolutely stomp all over the enemy team if they aren't dealt with properly and the person playing them know how to use them. Hell, most flankers can be.

That said, it is very much a team game, and even if you soloed the enemy team, if yours is borderline retarded, no amount of carrying is going to change that.

I think it's a really well-designed skinnerbox but that's really it. When I play I don't feel like I ever am getting better or worse at the game, I don't feel like I'm having an "experience" with the game, I don't feel like anything is happening. I say this having played a bunch when it first came out, cooled on it, then recently went back to it and now have uninstalled.exe

>>376755805
Anon knows where it's at